Gravatar I'd be interested in your point=by= point analysis of A. Jones' arguments, James.

Also, check this out news / discussion of the Afghanistan mess.

http://adjix.com/fpnc


Gravatar I don't think Alex's logorrhea constitutes an argument, actually.

Oddly enough, I've just been listening to the BBC's Tehran correspondent; Ahmedinejad (and by extension the regime also) appears to be widely loathed by Iranians, sufficiently so for them to state it openly. So Alex's Iranian platform might disappear when the Iranian presidential elections come up.


Gravatar I knew AJ was an idiot, but damn.


Gravatar I doubt Alex is speaking against the US as a country. He likely is speaking against the current US government - a government of a twice-unelected President that shows utter disdain for the constitution, an illegal, illegitimate government. And, well, a Patriot loves his country all of the time, and his government when it deserves it.


Gravatar Russia invaded South Ossetia? James?

During the Soviet breakup the satellite nations subjects were offered Russian or local passports. Most ethnic Russians opted for them even though they continued to live and work in former Soviet bloc nations. Georgia was no different than Lithuania in this.

It is sad to see Americans are being fed some pretty distorted news. While Kennedy was looked up to for defending our border when the Russians set up missles in our backyard we seem to think it is okay to turn it around and plant missles on Russia's border.

These madmen will take us all to war when we just want to work and take care of family. Have we really decided to build a global empire intead of a strong nation?


Gravatar South Ossetia was universally regarded as part of Georgia, even by Russia itself. The Ossetians repeatedly attacked Georgian troops, the Georgians retaliated, Russia invaded the very next day with 60,000 troops that they conveniently had standing by.


Gravatar Nobody can say "The Ossetians repeatedly attacked Georgian troops" Because there is allegations of provocation from both sides.


Gravatar James | Homepage | 09.13.08 - 5:16 pm |

Georgian rule was never established in South Ossetia - even though formally that was part of Georgia. Yes, Russians did have troops on standby - on their own territory, it must be said. They expected to possibly have to come to the aid of a population which was 90% Russian citizens.

See, this is a complex situation, but picture the following. Picture a town in Mexico that is popular with Americans - let's say, it has 50% of the population that's American citizens. And let's say the Mexican military decided to shell it with multi-barreled missile launchers. And the town is only a mile and a half long and a mile wide. Do you think the American military will just idly stand by?


Gravatar These were not Russian citizens that just happened to have moved to South Ossetia. These were Georgian citizens that Russia gave Russian citizenship to. To be analogous this would be like if we started handing out passports to Mexicans in Tiajuana, encouraged them to start attacking the Mexican police, and then had the army invade all the way down the Baja California on the pretense of protecting our "citizens", and then we annexed Northern Mexico


Gravatar James | Homepage | 09.13.08 - 5:54 pm |

Not that the US has not done stuff like that in its history, but here's a little different. Unlike Abkhasians, the Ossetians never wanted to be part of Georgia - so much so that they fought against Georgians as far back as 1989-90, when the USSR still existed. You know Russian, I believe? Then watch this video, it is about 36 Ossetian refugees slaughtered by the Georgians back in 1992. Yes, it is possible Ossetians have similar things to be accused of - but either way after this sort of events I don't think South Ossetia can ever be expected to live under the Georgian rule within at least a couple of generations.


Gravatar You can say they had 60,000 troops standing conveniently by like they wanted this to happen. Of course they were waiting for it, Every country has military strategists and analysts. But I don't think Russia basically recruited Georgian citizens to attack Georgia. Russia gave Georgian citizens Russian citizenship to go and attack Georgian troops to provoke a military response from Georgia in south Ossetia? So they could go in and fight them back out?


Gravatar Gee, I'm really shocked,

Boris "Tristan" Epstein, born and bred in the then Soviet Union, communist emigre failure in the United States, bitter hater of all things American, obsessively irrational 9/11troofer, finds that Russian imperialism is right on.


Gravatar Alex Jones is a traitor to this Constitutional USA, and should be arrested and tried as such if there are ever any hostilities between the US and Islamic Republic of Iran.

Of course, he would be considered a great patriot to any future Islamic republic of the United States.

Therefore, Alex Jones is as low life a scumbag as a lowlife scumbag can get.

And I'm a firm believer that most everyone has a good side.

However, I'm now convinced that that is Jones' "best" side.


Gravatar Too bad Alex Jones can't be deported.

but Boris Epstein can.


Gravatar We are the Constitutional USA? since when?


Gravatar If you think we follow the Constitution please come out from under the rock you've been under for the past 100 years.


Gravatar Nobody, you may live in Cuba, or North Korea, or Iran, or Syria, or Bolivia, or Venezuela, or Russia, but I don't.

You know, countries where they throw you in jail for saying what you're saying about the USA protected by your First Amendment Constitutional Rights.


Gravatar I wonder when Jesse Ventura is going to travel to Cuba from his new home in Mexico and tell them all about the 9/11 inside job on Communist State Television?


Gravatar The First Amendment is violated all the time, http://www.tjcenter.org/
You know every insult you people try to throw at everyone else when they disagree with you is that they are from a different country and they are unamerican. Thats so pathetic, ignorant and almost retarded hillbilly patriotism.


Gravatar Nobody | 09.13.08 - 7:04 pm

LOL!

It's not any kind of insult if it's 100% true.

Own up to your just plain retarded stupidity about the vast panoply of civil freedoms we all enjoy, monsieur shit-for-brains.

And, if you yelled fire in a crowded theatre I owned and there was no fire, no smoke, no nothing but your first Amendment right to free speech, and a bunch of trampled patrons, I would happily have you arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law for the wanton and criminal abuse of your freedoms.


Gravatar I have been looking for as many perspectives on 9/11 as I could.

I came to this site to look for your information that would expose the lies, distortions and myths of the 9/11 "truthers", but I see that this site doesn't even come close to being rational.

If you truely believe in the official conspiracy theory, I would like to understand your take on it.

I don't trust our government anymore. They have lied us into a war with Iraq, that alone is an impeachable offense. And the war in afganistan is like bombing Sicily to rid it of the mafia.


Gravatar Again all you had to insult me with was that im from out of country and im some how jealous of the freedoms you enjoy.... Atleast you could come up with something new?


Gravatar The vast panoply of civil freedoms we all enjoy, you probably don't even *own you're own house.


Gravatar If you truely believe in the official conspiracy theory…

When you use such ridiculous terminology, you suggest you are typical closed minded twoofer who believes whatever he wants to believed whether the facts support it or not.

I would like to understand your take on it.

It’s very simple, Islamic militants attacked this country on 9/11 and succeeded in killing 3K people. There is ample video of planes hitting buildings, hijackers going through security, etc. Twoofers simply dismiss all of it because they want to believe this country killed its own on 9/11 because it suits their world view.

I don't trust our government anymore.

Whether you trust it or not, your distrust would in no way proves 9/11 was "an inside job."

They have lied us into a war with Iraq, that alone is an impeachable offense.

I happen to think invading Iraq was an act of colossal stupidity, but I’ve yet to see concrete proof that Administration officials told the public things they knew not to be true regarding the basic reasons they gave for going to war. They clearly adopted a worse case scenario attitude and engaged in hubris and wishful thinking to a stunning degree. It might suggest that they are unfit to lead the country but those are not impeachable offenses.

As to the topic of thread. I think Shakashvili (sp?) was quite reckless and should have known he was walking into a Russian trap. I think there is a good deal of ambiguity about who fired the first shot, so to speak, but he had to know sending forces into Ossetia would trigger a Russian response. Even if the US had wanted to come to Georgia’s aid, who would it have sent? I don’t approve of Russia’s actions but the US can’t be the world’s policeman.

As for Alex Jones, he is what Lenin would have described as a “useful idiot” although I think it is a stretch to even call him useful. Most of the useful idiots in Lenin’s day actually saw the USSR as a promising beacon of a hope for a new classless society. They were idealistic but naïve. Jones is simply a rank opportunist who willing to align himself with any anti-American crackpot to get himself fame and notoriety knowing that the freedoms in this country mean he faces no sanction for his actions. The other nations are happy to put someone who is, at least in legal sense, American on TV to condemn the US and endorse their actions.


Gravatar Sorry that last post was from me.


Gravatar How was it a Russian trap? What did russia gain from fighting them back out of south Ossetia?


Gravatar I have been looking for as many perspectives on 9/11 as I could.

As long as they were all on troofer web sites that ban any dissenting opinions from da twoof!

I see that this site doesn't even come close to being rational.

Riighhttt.... And particularly do ignore the other debunking sites posted on the front page of this site. In fact, why not re-define rational as being part of a worldwide movement who managed to gather 120 people for a protest at Ground Zero seven years after 9/11.

If you truely believe in the official conspiracy theory, I would like to understand your take on it.

My take on it is that there is no official conspiracy theory. Just a mountain of accumulated evidence that indicates 19 hijackers crashed four aircraft on 9/11.

However, there are a load of 9/11troofers who do make the Bush Administraion look like geniuses by comparison to their stupidity.

And my theory is that they are dupes of disinfo operatives among them actually trying to make the Bushes look like geniuses by comparison.

I don't trust our government anymore.

Anyone who has ever trusted any government is by definition a partime dupe.

They have lied us into a war with Iraq, that alone is an impeachable offense.

So it was vitally important for thousands of energetic young men to spend the past seven years blogging about thermite.

Or are you arguing that Monbiot was right and that the benefit of a fake conspiracy is that the conspiracist has to do nothing?

And the war in afganistan is like bombing Sicily to rid it of the mafia.
smithse | 09.13.08 - 7:59 pm | #


Excellent bit of illogic.

Since the mafia has survived any number of attempts to get rid of it. Except for the bombing of Sicily, which has never been tried.

A better analogy would be that the war in Afghanistan is like not dropping atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in order to quickly end the Second World War.


Gravatar so you guys are still lower than dirt?

go ahead fake my name too and post some ridiculous shit under my handle.

fucking sellout bitches...


Gravatar hijackers going through security

This doesn't prove that person boarded one of the planes in question. No one has come forth to say they saw them board. when I saw the picture, it had 2 different times on it. That makes it questionable to me. It may be a picture of any middle eastern person, that is not proof with backing.

What exactly is a Islamic? If it is a religion they were not following it prior to that day. If most were Saudi's, why did we not go after Saudi's? The FBI states it has no hard evidence of a connection of OBLadin and 9/11. What would make someone think it was Al Qaida?

Maybe we just need to have a judicial investigation of 9/11. To find blame.


Gravatar "If most were Saudi's, why did we not go after Saudi's?"

This is usually the line that tells me a real fucking moron is trying to think. If you really don't understand the different you are beyond retarded.

Fucking piece of shit dumbass!


Gravatar Zlaya | Homepage | 09.13.08 - 9:05 pm

Translation:

Hi, I'm a total attention whore retard.


Gravatar Max Power | 09.13.08 - 9:23 pm

The dwindling number of troofers is pretty much reduced to those who are both stupid and insane.

Think of them as the sludge at the bottom of the septic tank.

the fact is the west has been going after, arresting and killing islamic extremist Saudi's all over the place since 9/11.

In fact the Saudi's themselves have killed hundreds if not thousands of militant extremists over the years.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne...ews/ 7066867.stm

http://www.saudiembassy.net/2004....asp? cIndex=257

http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2...3/ jv9no3a1.html


Gravatar This doesn't prove that person boarded one of the planes in question.

They bought tickets in their names, moron, used credit cards in their names to pay; that's how people fly on commercial airliners. The videos of them going through security is what is referred to by professional investigators as part of the preponderance of evidence.

What exactly is a Islamic? If it is a religion they were not following it prior to that day.

So, what you're saying shit-for-brains is that none of the suicide bombers who have filmed martyrdom videos before going out to suicide bomb and kill innocents is an islamic extremist. Despite their praising Allah before killing.

So that makes you what? A major Islamic cleric who is also a forensic crime scene investigator and a controlled demolition expert?

Wouldn't it just be easier to acknowledge that you're an narcissistic imbecile with no skills beyond being a crackerjack deep fryer cleaner?

The FBI states it has no hard evidence of a connection of OBLadin and 9/11.

And you're so good at cleaning deep fryers moron, that you've also been promoted to chief FBI analyst for Burger King?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri...cas/ 6898075.stm

The fact is the hunt for Bin Ladin starts at the White House and Congress, not the FBI.

What would make someone think it was Al Qaida?

Maybe this?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ terr...fatwa_1998.html

or this?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ terr...fatwa_1996.html

Or the fact this has been out since 1998?

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/ terror...terbinladen.htm

Maybe we just need to have a judicial investigation of 9/11. To find blame.
smithse | 09.13.08 - 9:15 pm | #


Why? Wouldn't it just be easier to blame your parents defective genes for why you're such an imbecile?


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Gravatar Seven years after 9/11,

on 9/11,

the allegedly worldwide 9/11truth movement gets 125 people to show up at GZ for the sixth commemoration of that tragic day.

125 out of 6,800,000,000 people on Earth.

Where it all started.

With both Presidential Candidates present.

With hundreds of TV cameras.

Among 100's of thousands who came to honor the honored dead.

Is it any wonder only imbeciles, morons, and the mentally ill still subscribe to that troofer crap?


Gravatar Meanwhile, major 9/11truth figure Alex Jones has to travel to enemy of Western democracy, Theocratic Republic of Iran, just to get a little face time on camera?


Gravatar correction: Travel via satellite..?.


Gravatar you probably don't even *own you're own house.
Nobody | 09.13.08 - 8:23 pm | #


I see, Nobody. You're an embittered young real estate agent who started his career a week before the real estate bubble burst.

And now you're at Burger King #3452.


Gravatar I'd be interested in your point=by= point analysis of A. Jones' arguments, James.
BG | Homepage | 09.13.08 - 3:04 pm | #

Sorry, pal, that's the same bullshit I've been hearing from Truthers for years.

Debating point by point is a valuable and reasonable way to exchange views, but not with you lot, and especially not with you.

I asked you to debate some points last year (along with others on this blog), and I (we) am still waiting.

Stop trying to act reasonable, BG, you're anything but.


Gravatar 9/11/08 we are change thugs attack no planers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h?v=k- yiC7Upftk


Gravatar one of troys best! lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7ZeMIR4ouKs

mini-nukes lmao.


Gravatar Smithse is a buffoon | 09.13.08 - 10:06 pm |

Bush administration initially tried to blame al qaeda for the anthrax attacks but turned out they were either lying or wrong.

"FBI was told to blame Anthrax scare on Al Qaeda by White House officials

Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ ...scare_on_a.html

BY JAMES GORDON MEEK DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
Saturday, August 2nd 2008, 6:32 PM

WASHINGTON - In the immediate aftermath of the 2001 anthrax attacks, White House officials repeatedly pressed FBI Director Robert Mueller to prove it was a second-wave assault by Al Qaeda , but investigators ruled that out, the Daily News has learned."


Gravatar Then they tried to blame it on saddam hussein and iraq. Turned out they were either lying or were wrong on that one, as well.


Gravatar "If you truely believe in the official conspiracy theory, I would like to understand your take on it.

smithse | 09.13.08 - 7:59 pm | #"

There is no "official conspiracy theory", shit for brains.


Gravatar " hijackers going through security

This doesn't prove that person boarded one of the planes in question.

smithse | 09.13.08 - 9:15 pm | #"

"shit for brains" was too kind.

That statement is "boris the retarded marmoset" stooopid.


Gravatar you probably don't even *own you're own house.
Nobody | 09.13.08 - 8:23 pm | #

I don't own a house period. I live out of Motel rooms paid for by oil companies.


Gravatar smithse | 09.13.08 - 9:15 pm | #

Boris, Is that you?


Gravatar "To be analogous this would be like if we started handing out passports to Mexicans in Tiajuana, encouraged them to start attacking the Mexican police, and then had the army invade all the way down the Baja California on the pretense of protecting our "citizens", and then we annexed Northern Mexico"

Err yes, completely analogous, definately not going to happen.


Gravatar so they dreamed up the worse case scenario to take us to war with Iraq. Have you looked at the articles of impeachment that Kucinich brought to the house of rep? there is proof of the lies.

The most outrageous conspiracy theory is:

19 hijackers with box cutters directed by a man in a cave, out-witting the most superior defence system, flying planes into buildings.

We have not even seen a manifest from the Airlines yet, where is the evidence to view.


Gravatar Can't you nutjobs be honest about anything? Not that it matters at all (so why lie about it?), but Bin Laden did not live in a cave prior to 9/11. What am I thinking. Of course you can't be honest - twoofers are the most dishonest bunch of people I have ever come across.


Gravatar Anonymous | 09.14.08 - 5:03 pm | #

There are pictures of them and eyewitness accounts, dumbass. You just don't want to believe it so you dismiss the evidence and make another meaningless statement. Typical worthless twoofer.


Gravatar Dylan...

What about the bush administration? Do you think they are even more dishonest than the truthers as you say they are?

I find it asinine that you are focusing on the lies of the truthers or so as you say they are and not the bush administration's lies which have resulted in thousands of lives.


Gravatar what eyewitness? no one has come forward and stated they saw them get on the plane.

the picture looks as if it was tampered with. with two sets of times on it.

I want concrete evidence.

the victims families want an investigation. they deserve the truth.


Gravatar " what eyewitness? no one has come forward and stated they saw them get on the plane.

the picture looks as if it was tampered with. with two sets of times on it.

I want concrete evidence."

In a nutshell, why arguing with a true conspiracy believer is pointless.


Gravatar Funny...Libertarians trying to talk about foreign affairs. You tell us we should stay out of the affairs of other countries but do the exact opposite. Neocon, libertarian they're all the same hypocritical mess.


Gravatar What about the bush administration? Do you think they are even more dishonest than the truthers as you say they are?

No. As I said, twoofers are by far the most dishonest bunch of people I've come across. They would give any government in history a beating in the telling lies stakes.

I find it asinine that you are focusing on the lies of the truthers or so as you say they are and not the bush administration's lies which have resulted in thousands of lives.


I find it incredible that twoofers think they can promote their viewpoint by telling an endless stream of lies. As I said, they don't have to say Bin Laden lived in a cave, but they do. They can't seem to stop themselves from lying.


Gravatar They like to fight fire with fire while telling everyone it's water.


Gravatar Anonymous | 09.14.08 - 6:31 pm
Why don't you give us answers instead of asking the same dumb questions?

Eyewitness Accounts Describe Jetliner Approaching Pentagon
authors: 9-11 Research just a few
Large Jetliner
http://www.dragonslair.pwp.bluey.../ witnesses.html
Alan Wallace -- firefighter with safety crew at Pentagon's heliport
We have had a commercial carrier crash into the west side of the Pentagon at the heliport, Washington Boulevard side. The crew is OK. The airplane was a 757 Boeing or a 320 Airbus.
www.gosanangelo.com...
Albert Hemphill -- from inside the Naval Annex
Immediately, the large silver cylinder of an aircraft appeared in my window, coming over my right shoulder as I faced the Westside of the Pentagon directly towards the heliport. The aircraft, looking to be either a 757 or Airbus, seemed to come directly over the annex
lists.travellercentral.com/pipermail/tml/2001- September/013153.html
James S. Robbins -- Robbins, a national-security analyst and 'nationalreviewonline' contributor, watched from his 6th story office window in Arlington
The Pentagon is about a mile and half distant in the center of the tableau. I was looking directly at it when the aircraft struck. The sight of the 757 diving in at an unrecoverable angle is frozen in my memory, ...
www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins040902.asp
Tim Timmerman --
... said it had been an American Airways 757.
www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/ 0,1300,550486,00.html
Tim Timmerman -- from 16th floor apartment near National Airport
It was a Boeing 757, American Airlines, no question.
www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.32.html
Mike Dobbs -- observed from upper level of outer ring of Pentagon
... looking out the window when he saw an American Airlines 737 twin-engine airliner strike the building.
www.abqtrib.com/archives/news01/ 091201_news_dcscene.shtml
www.coping.org/911/survivor/pentagon.htm
Jim Sutherland -- from his car
... saw ... a white 757 twin-engine plane with multicolored trim fly 50 feet over I-395 in a straight line, striking the side of the Pentagon.
www.cincypost.com/2001/sep/11/wash091101.html
www.jimroche.com/pentagon_hero.htm
Madelyn Zakhem --
... she heard what she thought was a jet fighter directly overhead. It wasn't. It was an airliner coming straight up Columbia Pike at tree-top level. It was huge! It was silver. It was low -- unbelievable! I could see the cockpit.
www.roadstothefuture.com/VA_Sept21.txt
Joel Sucherman --
I saw the tail of a large airliner ... It ploughed right into the Pentagon.
www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/ 0,1300,550486,00.html


Gravatar It was this administration that sent troops looking for bin laden in the caves of afganistan. we were told he operated out of a cave.


Gravatar sggw you may want to research the video that debunks those people that said they saw a 757 american airline hit the pentagon.


Gravatar "sggw you may want to research the video that debunks those people that said they saw a 757 american airline hit the pentagon."

Could you be a bit more specific?


Gravatar what eyewitness? no one has come forward and stated they saw them get on the plane.

They saw them on the plane, dumbfuck.

the picture looks as if it was tampered with. with two sets of times on it.

How would you know, asswipe?

I want concrete evidence.

The biggest twoofer lie of all. Your pathetic minds are made up. You're "America is evil" religion is impervious to facts.


Gravatar we were told he operated out of a cave.
Anonymous | 09.14.08 - 7:23 pm | #


I was told that Starbucks operated out of a storefront at the mall, and when I got there they were gone!

Conspiracy!!! Inside Jobby Job!!!!!
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Gravatar "I want concrete evidence.

Anonymous | 09.14.08 - 6:31 pm | #"

Look between your ears.


Gravatar " sggw you may want to research the video that debunks those people that said they saw a 757 american airline hit the pentagon.
Anonymous | 09.14.08 - 7:31 pm | #:

So a video debunks eyewitnesses.

You do realize, do you not, that you are quite insane?


Gravatar Of course I'm insane.

I'm just here to get a little attention.

By the way, thanks.


Gravatar I can't say this enough - Alex Jones looks like an older version of Steven Stills. Yet, he's much much younger than Steven Stills - by a generation, in fact.

Also, Justin Martell and the Fat Jackmans are a pussy crew.


Gravatar LOL!

Alex Jones is, what, 34?

Steven Stills is 63 and has had prostate cancer.

When Steven Stills was 34 he looked like this,

http://members.aol.com/ nightfly6...ephenstills.jpg


Gravatar truthers are wasting time with this blog, it offers no constructive evidence from these debunkers. All they do is name call. I will go and look for another that may have some substance.


Gravatar Just type, "9/11truth" or, "9/11 inside job" on your search engine.

In the 9/11troofer community that is what is known as research.

When you get to a troofer blog that bans anyone who disagrees with their particular version of troofer bunk, see if they are like minded fellow travelers.

If so, your search is over.

If not, keep web searching among troofer web sites. There's about one for every three of the remainging troofers on earth.

Or about 25,000 troofer web sites asking questions about 4298 troofer versions of what happened on 9/11.

And most of them ban comments from anyone who disagrees with their particular version of da twoof!

They are all roughly divided among partial planers, planers, and no-planers. Each of whom hate the other two type's guts. You'll have a great time hating other troofers you disagree with when you find the right site.

Only 24,496 of which have totally ignored the fact only 120 troofers showed up at Ground Zero on 9/11 this year to voice their displeasure with the 8,000,000 New Yorkers completely ignoring them.

The other 4 sites claim that was a big success.

You'll be free to spend all the rest of your days with three other lunatics and their personality disorder inspired sockpuppets on-line when you find just what you're looking for.

Good luck!


Gravatar Heh, heh - Jones is a hero, he hates his corrupt, war mongering government. Any of you assholes who love the GOP or Dems, are corrupt wankers. Can't you see the US is on the way out - it's gone too far this time.


Gravatar Anonymous | 09.14.08 - 7:31 pm | #

There is no such thing unless it is some toofer lie. Makeing claims is not proof. Witnessess have been documented for 7 years


Gravatar all american | 09.15.08 -

You are no more American than Castro


Gravatar sggw | Homepage | 09.15.08 - 6:59 am

Actually, Castro is probably dead, but he was Latin American.

Raul is holding down the fort, pretending Fidel is still practicing for the Olympics.

It would be more correct to say Castro wasn't a US citizen.


Gravatar he hates his corrupt, war mongering government. - SelfHating... | 09.15.08 - 6:00 am

Is the reason this is the only corrupt war mongering country in the history of the world that doesn't execute or throw into a dungeon's septic tank state enemies like Alex Jones, because you troofers are all so self destructive and, as you say, self hating, that it's unnecessary to pay any attention to such monumental losers?


Gravatar Obviously, if Alex Jones rose to power he'd love to establish an Iranian style regime in the USA.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/all-co...=3&n2=30& n3=922

http://www.iranfocus.com/en/inde...sk=view& id=4403


Gravatar Well, the US ran a regime in Iran with their puppet Shah for 16 years or so, complete with secret police (savak) - that's spreading democracy for ya!


Gravatar SelfHater.. | 09.16.08 - 7:16 am

That regime was a lot more tolerant of basic rights than the current religious fanatics running Iran. And because of that the regime was able to be toppled by bloodthirsty killers who exploited the former regimes lack of ruthlessness.

Which religious fanatics themselves will never be toppled because they kill or imprison for decades anyone who disagrees with them.

Of course someone calling themselves, selfhater, could be expected to be clueless about that.


Gravatar @Humanitarian

wow savak was humanitarian, huh!

talk about uneducated delusional piece of shit wow...


Gravatar I'd want to be anonymous too, if I was going to be implying that "humanitarian" was a Savak agent.

Tell me, when you visit your favorite gloryhole, do you wear one of these?

http://jcr.chu.cam.ac.uk/ents/ wp...od_catsuit_.jpg


Gravatar I'm so fucking tired of Alex Jones and his truther followers, they should all be deported along with all niggers.

Niggers and truthers are all the same.

Fucking kooks!


Gravatar Oh, lookie here, a 9/11troofer has figured out all by his lonesome that the comments sections on this blog aren't password access only like they are on all troofer web sites.

You go, girl. Spam, little wigger, spam!

the sane citizens of


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Gravatar Kook puncher | Homepage | 09.18.08 - 11:01 am

too bad we can't actually see you.

It would be fun to request you punch your own face
just to watch you do it.


Gravatar Whatever, you nigger loving troof scumbag. You know the only kooks around here are you troofers.

For you that don't hate America however, vote www.johnmccain.com!!!


Gravatar Wow, Fighting Kookinator might just be the ultimate 9/11troofer troll on this blog.

Of course, that and $2 will get you a large coffee at Dunkin Donuts.




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