how many times do i have to say it?
juatathought |
05.24.04 - 8:19 pm | #
oops
jusatathought that is |
05.24.04 - 8:20 pm | #
The Empire has no interest in occupying The Wookie Planet. Many Wookie agencies are already under the direct control of the Wookie people.
John G |
05.24.04 - 8:20 pm | #
Was he about to cry there? LOL
DeepThought 42 |
05.24.04 - 8:21 pm | #
I tried to watch - really. But I couldn't. First smirk after the applause, and I had to go back to the Kevin Spacey movie. But let me know how it goes. I'd like to hear the punch lines, anyway.
semper ubi |
05.24.04 - 8:21 pm | #
Watch for the "smirk" it is Bush's "tell". He will let out what "surprise" he has in store.
For example, last summer he smirked when he said "I will be vindicated in Iraq". 4 days later he bombed the Saddam boys.
Nice make-up job, though. No trace of his unfortunate "bicycle accident."
semper ubi |
05.24.04 - 8:22 pm | #
Am feeling bad for the military officers sitting there listening. Absolutely still, expressionless. Bush is giving a recap of how UN's Brahimi is setting up the "government" come June 30th, as though nobody knows about that yet. Pitiful.
Boots |
05.24.04 - 8:23 pm | #
I think it's "No Iraqi Left [With A] Behind."
hueyplong |
05.24.04 - 8:23 pm | #
Absolutely no recognition that, duh, maybe WE engaged in terrorist tactics at Abu Ghraib? As usual, he equates ALL those fighting the U.S. as terrorists.
Same old, same old shit.
GoviB |
05.24.04 - 8:24 pm | #
He's explaining to the Freepers why he didn't raze Fallujah and feed the maimed survivors to pigs. The extended murder spree followed by a slapdash retreat was really "strategic cooperation" with the Iraqis
Draco |
05.24.04 - 8:25 pm | #
Ugh, I could only tolerate about 5 minutes of it, and I don't want my kid to hear me using swear words.
a mom |
05.24.04 - 8:26 pm | #
What is with the guard rails and the guards posted inside? To protect him from the audience?
MacMan |
05.24.04 - 8:28 pm | #
why no makeup over left eyebrow? is that where the tamping rod was extracted?
"abu ..garummmP"
phineas gage |
05.24.04 - 8:28 pm | #
How distracting is his tennis-game back-and-forth between right/center/left teleprompters? Talk about phoning it in. Abu Ga - wait a sec, let me find my place - raib.
Enoch |
05.24.04 - 8:28 pm | #
He can't even pronounce Abu Ghraib right...is he slurring his words more than usual?
ellroon |
05.24.04 - 8:28 pm | #
he can't even fucking say "abu ghraib". I wonder if anyone has even told him about it.
jason. |
05.24.04 - 8:29 pm | #
Talk about closing the barn door after the horse escaped.
More turkee for Halliburton.
renato |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:29 pm | #
My 12 year old daughter just asked, and I quote, " How does someone who can barely read and says stupid stuff that makes no sense get elected daddy?" :-D
Abby Normal |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:29 pm | #
Speaking at the Army War College this evening, President Bush just said that the work being done in Iraq right now is making America a safer place.
The death toll for US military in Iraq stands at 801 as he speaks. There have been 911 coalition casualties. (Yes, 911.)
Now, if, rather than going into Iraq, we had continued to help rebuild Afghanistan, had continued to search for Osama Bin Laden, how many of those 911 do you think would still be alive? How many of the uncounted US and other foreign civilians would still be alive? How many innocent Iraqi men, women and children would still be alive?
pretty much nothin but the same ol, same ol....
xorfl |
05.24.04 - 8:30 pm | #
Is he trying to connect with Average American? If so, tell us when we will be outta there. It's all the bottom line. We are going to the UN (don't we think it is irrelevant?).
lk |
05.24.04 - 8:30 pm | #
Any drool yet? Without drool, I can't see his approval rating dipping below 40
hueyplong |
05.24.04 - 8:30 pm | #
Did Bush just say Abu-Gah-Rape?
The Fool |
05.24.04 - 8:30 pm | #
We're tearing down Abu Ghraib and building--A NEW PRISON! They must be dancing in the streets in baghdad over that one.
Tome |
05.24.04 - 8:30 pm | #
he said we will maintain the current troop level for the foreseeable future.
We ain't gettin' out anytime soon...
renato |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:30 pm | #
Now 25 mins and still no DETAILS!!
hello... dumbass! I switching to the Swan
R. I. Stairin? |
05.24.04 - 8:31 pm | #
Why is Bush getting free airtime? What bullshit. Kerry should be granted equal time.
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 8:31 pm | #
The bad news for the Repubs is that--to borrom from Coach Norman Dale in "Hoosiers"--"It's WAY past big-speech time."
Chunky Phelps |
05.24.04 - 8:31 pm | #
Talk about a Freudian slip...
The Fool |
05.24.04 - 8:31 pm | #
I seriously think he admitted that the Bush Administration has no control whatsoever over the US Military on the ground in Iraq when he talked about commanders using their own judgment on the ground, as happened when the Marines pulled out of Fallujah.
Wayne Rossi |
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05.24.04 - 8:31 pm | #
Holy Cow! Did you see his life flash in front of his eyes when he couldn't pronounce AbuGraib? LMAO The name of the prison that killed his political career, and he can't pronounce it not *once* but *twice.* I think everyone was just clapping cuz he pronounced it right the third time. I have no clue what he said about it, I was laughing too hard.
Humanitarian Do-Gooder |
05.24.04 - 8:31 pm | #
Uh oh. Bush can't pronounce Abu Ghraib. Bad, really bad. How embarrassing. I wonder how many times he practiced it.
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 8:31 pm | #
Yeah, because we all know that US-style supermax prisons, run by private security firms, are an example of American values.
anonymous in nc |
05.24.04 - 8:31 pm | #
Wait..wait! His great plan is to..to..hand it off to the U.N.!! (Cheers and applause!) Forget the purposeful dreadful diplomacy, the insults to Old Europe..we never thought you were cheese-eating surrender monkeys..really. Please take the country and let us keep the oil. We also will build a prison system just like Texas!
ellroon |
05.24.04 - 8:31 pm | #
I shouldn't drink when W is on TV
Chunky Phelps |
05.24.04 - 8:32 pm | #
Ah-boo gah-rape; ah-boo gary; abu gravy
3 tries not a one of them even close. I honestly thought he was having a stroke with the first one.
attaturk |
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05.24.04 - 8:32 pm | #
Did I see Forrest Gump in the audience?
lk |
05.24.04 - 8:32 pm | #
"Ahhh Believe in Personal Responibility. I am personally responsible for holding Clinton Personally Responsible for everything."
Stirling Newberry |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:32 pm | #
How the hell does tearing down Abu Ghraib and putting up a new prison do ANYTHING for what happened there?
Maybe it's old enough it needs to be rebuilt, but why does it merit even a mention in a Presidential speech?
Gagging on rank symbolism over here.
Mike |
05.24.04 - 8:33 pm | #
there will be violence in iraq, except when there's not, but especially when there is. freedom iraq terror terror free nations.
Howdy Doody |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
K, you all are quicker than I. Jeesus, that was funny. You could hear the collective gasp of Hughes/Rove and see the fear in his eyes. "They told me this a million times, and I fucked it up."
Humanitarian Do-Gooder |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
So far I'm enormously heartened by hearing Bush say again everything he's already said that hasn't happened yet. I am, however, disappointed to hear that we have another prison scandal to contend with. Apparently there has been dishonorable conduct at Abu Garoob as well!
Palmer Eldritch |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
As a former Army officer I am appalled that this President gets away with using men and women of the military as political backdrops. To see him there at the War College doing a purely political speech (why could he not have given this speech in the oval office) is sickening!
Jon |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
empty rhetoric, lengthy applause... waste of time
landlubber |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
Yeah, in wanting the US out. No more dictators.
anonymous in nc |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
........and Iraq will then take it's place among the peace loving nations of history.
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
He is slurring and sputtering so much that I just got some of his spittle on me! Ugh!
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
there will be violence in iraq, except when there's not, but especially when there is. freedom iraq terror terror free nations.
Howdy Doody |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
We may be ass-raping Iraqis who end up in Abu-Gah-Rape, but we are respecting their holy places.
The Fool |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
"I shouldn't drink when W is on TV."
I would think that drinking (or multiple bong hits) would be the only way to get through it.
hueyplong |
05.24.04 - 8:34 pm | #
They could have put an applause machine in the oval office
Jon |
05.24.04 - 8:35 pm | #
I don't want to be friends with Iraq. I have enough friends.
lk |
05.24.04 - 8:35 pm | #
He longer refers to free "and Democratic" Iraq. It is now free and self governing. another step back. Oh well, Kerry was right.
MacMan |
05.24.04 - 8:35 pm | #
I missed the first two minutes because no major network, not even PBS, is carrying it ON A NYC FLAGSHIP STATION!
What is wrong with us?
My wife won't watch any more smirking, so it's off to dinner.
And how's this for a question: "Yes, Mr. Preznit, everything you say about sovereignty is true, but it was also just as true last year. Why now are we transferring power? Why did we not give them the reins last year? Why have we oppressed the Iraqis for an additional 14 months? Is it because 'the political season' is upon us? Did we need the extra time to entrench Halliburton and Bechtal in the Iraqi economy? What? Why?"
Hudson |
05.24.04 - 8:36 pm | #
Further proof that to hold the presidency, one must not only know the meaning of large words, but be able to speak them.
Humanitarian Do-Gooder |
05.24.04 - 8:36 pm | #
He's going to get primetime for 6 weeks for free?
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 8:36 pm | #
A freer rack: no bras in the Middle East.
anonymous in nc |
05.24.04 - 8:36 pm | #
oh now he's going on about how the "terrorists" want to enslave everyone and deprive women of a voice.
Kettle, this is Pot. You are black.
renato |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:36 pm | #
The answer is "41, 40, 39, 38 ...."
Question _ What are Bush's approval numbers as he speaks?
lk |
05.24.04 - 8:37 pm | #
I was thinking W shouldnt drink when on TV
fenris |
05.24.04 - 8:37 pm | #
I was thinking W shouldnt drink when on TV
fenris |
05.24.04 - 8:37 pm | #
I was thinking W shouldnt drink when on TV
fenris |
05.24.04 - 8:37 pm | #
Hudson:
I wish they would let him answer questions.
Chunky Phelps |
05.24.04 - 8:37 pm | #
"Bechtel". Yes, I know. I just got all excited and sweaty.
Hudson |
05.24.04 - 8:37 pm | #
We believe that freedom can change things in the middle east...especially at the point of a gun.
Our fanaticism is better than your fanaticism.
attaturk |
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05.24.04 - 8:38 pm | #
Lol, he finishes EVERY graf looking straight ahead, after readinthe last line or so. He then turns back to left or right (but always alternating) and reads the next graf, finishing it looking straight ahread.
GTMule |
05.24.04 - 8:38 pm | #
So, did he just describe the Religious Right's agenda and ascribe it to the terrorists, or what?
Wayne Rossi |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:38 pm | #
I keep waiting for the makeup to crack and fall off.
OH MY FUCKING GOD!! they seek weapons of mass destruction.
That's it, I'm watching something else. You know, he's at the war college, and they aren't being too kind. Guess even the military hates his idiot guts now.
That's a good thing.
fourlegsgood |
05.24.04 - 8:38 pm | #
Let's remind you guys that these thar bad guys are evil doers. Evil doers like Aboo Gra uh Grai uh Grub bad guys evil evil bad bad. Vote for me cuz I am War President and I am a good doer not a evil doer.
ellroon |
05.24.04 - 8:38 pm | #
ONE YEAR LATER AND BUSH IS STILL TRYING TO SELL HIS WAR.
I was talking with my wife and we decided that it might be divine intervention. OK, stay with me here...
Bush is fond of telling the masses that he "feels that he was chosen by God to lead the 'murkin people".
Now, after all the pain he's inflicted on the people of the earth, it seems to me that God might be a LITTLE pissed at Georgie Boy for using HIS name in that way.
What if, the bike incident was the Omnipotent One's stab at offing the offensive one... coulda been a walnut or chestnut or whatever sorta miraculously rolled in front of chimpy's front tire causing him to take a header.
Rewind to the famous "pretzel incident" and the Segway incident. Coincidence? I don't think so.
It could happen, God works in mysterious ways.
Could be a great idea for a movie or at least a Saturday Night Live sketch!
Mr. Bungle |
05.24.04 - 8:38 pm | #
Abu Gabu, Abu Gabu,
we accept her, we accept her,
one of us, one of us
preznit giv me turkee |
05.24.04 - 8:39 pm | #
OK, that's the last bit of whoring I'll do. Promise.
patriotboy |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:42 pm | #
Is Daily Kos down?
You Make Me Laugh |
05.24.04 - 8:42 pm | #
That really is appalling. Using state money for a campaign speech.
Cause that's all this was, a fucking stupid campaign speech.
fourlegsgood |
05.24.04 - 8:43 pm | #
never mind
You Make Me Laugh |
05.24.04 - 8:43 pm | #
is it possible that he is still a heavy drinker? or maybe it's normal for recovering addicts to talk as if still high or drunk?
edmond dantes |
05.24.04 - 8:44 pm | #
Yup, campaign speech. It was all rhetoric. Unbelievable.
vachon |
05.24.04 - 8:44 pm | #
morons and drunk people kind of sound alike.
fourlegsgood |
05.24.04 - 8:44 pm | #
Didn't even preempt Fear Factor or the Swan here in Boston - he has offically lost the American public.
Abreact |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:45 pm | #
as krauthammer says "george bush is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."
actually krauthammer notes the diminished emphasis on the "D" word, oops, sorry, that's a little "d" in "democracy".
raymond shaw |
05.24.04 - 8:45 pm | #
He's still going? Can't wait to miss the next one.
Ronjazz |
05.24.04 - 8:45 pm | #
Moved from the other thread, to this one (the proper one). Read this:
"According to an outline of the speech released by the White House tonight, the administration plans to demolish the [Abu Ghraib] prison and replace it with a new, modern one."
Because, apparently, the problem wasn't that we (or Saddam before us) were wiring up the genitals of Iraqi men and making them beg for survival, it was that we weren't doing so as efficiently as we might. Now, Iraqis will be able to enter the world of modern barbarism. They can practice medieval tortures, only using information age equipment.
I can only imagine that the symbolism crew, fresh from their "put a man on Mars" triumph, spat this one out.
Brian C.B. |
05.24.04 - 8:46 pm | #
Can't wait to see the transcript for this to see how they handle abu gah rape...
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 8:46 pm | #
It's amazing how consistent Bush is in being unable to get words out of his mouth when the words are associated in his mind with mistake or failure. Thus: Abu Ghraib, mangled.
Tena |
05.24.04 - 8:47 pm | #
i tuned in late. i guess i missed the part where he presented the plan to transfer sovereignty. i just heard that they would do it june 30.
Olaf glad and big |
05.24.04 - 8:47 pm | #
why is emeril lagasse speaking at a war college. seriously, why? where is my smell-o-vision?
mario batali |
05.24.04 - 8:48 pm | #
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
And, as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
Shaw Kenawe |
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05.24.04 - 8:49 pm | #
Oooo he had a nice segue from Afghanistan (looking perky and anti-talibanish) to Iraq (where a percentage of Iraqi who haven't lost relatives, lives or limbs are happy to have us there)...Without telling us why we were in Iraq in the first place!
Hasn't anyone told Bush we are corralled in Kabul and the Taliban have regained huge sections of Afghanistan? Growing poppies for drug profits? Iraq is burning, furious at the prison scandal, the invasion by uninvited foreigners after their oil, and so now extremely pissed off? People are dying in this nonsensical war for nothing?
Obviously Bush has fallen on his head once too many times.
ellroon |
05.24.04 - 8:49 pm | #
sorry for multiple posts - know what my mistake was - will not happen again ...
DM |
05.24.04 - 8:50 pm | #
Typical Bush bullshit. For months people have been telling these guys to demolish Abu Ghraib. They pooh-poohed the idea, even after the prison scandal broke.
Today Bush announces that they will tear it down.
Look for them to act like it was their idea all along and that it is what they always planned to do.
They do love to re-write history.
Chris Andersen |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:51 pm | #
Went out for dinner tonight. That was a wasted $20.
Chunky Phelps |
05.24.04 - 8:51 pm | #
So, let's see if Brahimi gives us the names this week just like Georgie says.
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 8:51 pm | #
CNN: "Wishful thinking"
MSNBC: "Staying the course????"
FOX: "We'll talk to a wavering Republican Congressman."
Richard Cranium |
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05.24.04 - 8:51 pm | #
Mr. Bungle, although I agree the God is not on Bush's side, I don't think the incidents you mentioned were acts of God. They were acts of binge drinking.
magurakurin |
05.24.04 - 8:51 pm | #
Only swishy boys and pansies can pronounce foreign words correctly.This is bushs' greatest fear;someone might call him a homo.
notch |
05.24.04 - 8:52 pm | #
Meanwhile, over on the Repug thread, theyre talking about how masterfull Bush was and how this is really going to turn it around!
T |
05.24.04 - 8:52 pm | #
"My 12 year old daughter just asked, and I quote, " How does someone who can barely read and says stupid stuff that makes no sense get elected daddy?" :-D
Abby Normal | Email | Homepage | 05.24.04 - 8:29 pm | #"
Good job, Abby.
My little boy (6 years old) said, "George Bush is a loser because he makes lies."
none of the broadcast stations in my area are showing it - is this true everywhere? Just the local cable news network. Not even PBS. This seems odd.
B
Ben |
05.24.04 - 8:54 pm | #
My daughter is going to be a Fox News intern. I just know it. I'll still love here, though, like my parents loved me despite my driving them nuts.
Name here |
05.24.04 - 8:55 pm | #
Typical Bush bullshit. For months people have been telling these guys to demolish Abu Ghraib. They pooh-poohed the idea, even after the prison scandal broke.
Today Bush announces that they will tear it down.
Look for them to act like it was their idea all along and that it is what they always planned to do.
They do love to re-write history.
I believe the word you're looking for is "flip-flop."
Seraphiel |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:55 pm | #
Bush has been long on platitudes, short on plans. In fact, the extremely high platitude-plan ratio is the single most telling characteristic of this war. The platitudes have been starting their second victory lap while the planning was stepping into the starting blocks.
Did he give one tonight? Because, if he didn't, the guys in the audience know they're fucked. And, increasingly, so does everyone smarter or less partisan than the Instapundit-Lileks-DeBeste Axis of Denial.
Brian C.B. |
05.24.04 - 8:55 pm | #
The networks not showing it are being patriotic. They know that exposure of our preznit as a fukktard gives aid and comfort to our enemies and endangers our troops in the field.
hueyplong |
05.24.04 - 8:56 pm | #
Oh great, now we get to pay for a new prison too. I need my driveway repaved. Think I can get a contract?
beck |
05.24.04 - 8:56 pm | #
I missed the first two minutes because no major network, not even PBS, is carrying it ON A NYC FLAGSHIP STATION!
What is wrong with us?
That was my first thought, too: "Oh, what a shame that American networks are expressing so little interest in the first of the president's six speeches."
Then it hit me: no one's watching. No one's listening. Remember that although news junkies are glued to CNN or CSPAN or FOXNews or whatever, most of the country's watching the major nets. GWB's big six-week push won't amount to much if he can't convince any of the broadcast networks to carry him. Think about it: The president, the object of so much labored affection from the network news organizations, claims he is going to plot the course towards peace in Iraq, and the networks collectively shrug their shoulders. To watch, or to listen, you had to seek it out. That won't plug the holes in Bush's leaky boat. Tree falls in the forest, and all that.
thunk |
05.24.04 - 8:57 pm | #
Destroying Abu Ghiraib is to deny Iraqis their history. Why not give them a place to reflect on (a) living under Saddam and (b) living under American occupation? It appears that Bush is interested in bulldozing the mistakes his Administration never made.
infoshaman |
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05.24.04 - 8:58 pm | #
Oh great. On CNN they have McConnell and Liebernan on to comment on Bush's speech. Don't they know Lieberman is a Republican!
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 8:58 pm | #
They didn't give the audience much camera time. Those officers looked like they had just sucked on a lemon.
I thought I had come unstuck in time and was watching Howdie Doodie, except Howdie usually made sense when he talked.
AnyBodyButBush |
05.24.04 - 8:58 pm | #
GWB: "We're tearing it down, okay? So stop talking about it. No more talk about the Aboo Grape place there in 'Rack. No more--and this is 'double endsies'!" (STICKS FINGERS IN EARS) "I can't hear you! I can't hear you! Nyaah, nyaah, nyaah, nyaah! I'm Preznit! Unka Karl told me so! I don't HAVE to hear you!"
Chunky Phelps |
05.24.04 - 8:58 pm | #
Shorter Dubya:
Terrrists. Freedom. Free Iraq! We have plans. They are: pie in the sky. That is all.
Wayne Rossi |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 8:59 pm | #
"So, let's see if Brahimi gives us the names this week just like Georgie says."
Joe Klein was on CNN a moment ago saying that his UN contacts say that the Iraqi's can't agree on a roster of candidates. Who wants to lay money that next week's speech doesn't happen?
Humanitarian Do-Gooder |
05.24.04 - 8:59 pm | #
I missed the first two minutes because no major network, not even PBS, is carrying it ON A NYC FLAGSHIP STATION!
Because the White House didn't ask! That's how it works. That is how it has always worked.
The White House asks the networks, and they show the speech. If the WH doesn't ask, the speech doesn't get shown, especially during sweeps.
The reason the WH didn't ask, probably was because then the WH has much more damage and spin control in case of another MTP type debacle.
Plus, now, the freepers, and Hannity et.al. can preface every comment with a scream about how the SCLM refused to show our noble leader, depriving the American people of the opportunity to see the Prez outline his strategy. Don't think the Rove isn't smart enough to know that.
OT, isn't Abu Ghairib a crime scene? How can they get away with destroying it?
plankton |
05.24.04 - 9:00 pm | #
I had never truely appreciated how much better I prefer freedom to terrorism until the Preznit's speach tonight.
I just don't understand how anyone could not vote for the man.
Instakaus |
05.24.04 - 9:00 pm | #
Why does CNN always put Lieberman on to speak for Dems?
Ugh. So CNN puts on a Republican and Lieberman to debate the speech? What the hell's the difference. Way to balance out the view points, bastards.
Joel Caris |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:01 pm | #
The enthusiam from the military guys was less than enthusiastic (after the opening smirkfest).
My immediate reaction: the speech was no more than a peptalk to the LGFers. And I don't think it went over well even as that. Long on generalities (I could have drawn up the org chart myself), precious short on specifics.
He really lost the military folks when he said they were going to have to continue to sacrifice. But he appreciates it.
As he said that, I could see the little cartoon balloons popping up over each of the generals: "AWOL bastard."
Richard Cranium |
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05.24.04 - 9:02 pm | #
Reading this thread, the only part I haven't seen is that thing about a "plan."
I'm starting to think that the best thing Kerry can do at a debate is fail to show up, letting Bush keep on talking during Kerry's turn.
hueyplong |
05.24.04 - 9:02 pm | #
Duncan Hunter thinks we have credibility around the world for not being imperialistic. Republicans are so cute!
The Fool |
05.24.04 - 9:03 pm | #
Great. Now my tax dollars are going to build a new prison in Iraq in the interest of destroying a crime scene.
I think we should keep it going and send chimpy, Rove, Dick (Dick) Cheney and the rest of the neocon droogies there. For life.
Mr. Bungle |
05.24.04 - 9:03 pm | #
>> replace it with a new, modern one."
> Because, apparently, the problem
> wasn't that we (or Saddam before us)
> were wiring up the genitals of Iraqi
> men and making them beg for survival,
> it was that we weren't doing so as
> efficiently as we might.
I am no fan of Mr. Bush. But please keep in mind that Iraq has a population of 25 million; a certain percentage of that number will be violent criminals regardless of who is in power. How do you suggest those violent criminals be handled?
"The terrorists will not determine the future of Iraq."
Right, because we will. We, in our just and righteous glory, will shine light upon the benighted native peoples of the world, and we will spare no "smart bombs" to do it. We will build schools, because after all, Iraqi children deserve the same indoctrination as American children, right? We will bring free-market capitalism to Iraq, because hey, as long as we're there, we might as well turn a profit, right? Etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam ad infinitum.
Even if I agreed with Bush on every issue, I would hope he was not re-elected just so I wouldn't have to hear him repeat the same maudlin, meaningless tripe non-stop for the next four years. What a joke. For now, I hope he keeps doing it, because with that level of idiocy, he's the best living, breathing, walking, talking campaign slogan for John Kerry that I can imagine.
Mike |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:05 pm | #
They are: pie in the sky.
Fun Fact:>/b>That term was coined by Joe Hill in in the greatest Wobbly song of all time:
The Preacher and the Slave
by JOE HILL
Long-haired preachers come out every night,
Try to tell you what's wrong and what's right,
But when asked about something to eat,
They will answer in voices so sweet:
Chorus:
You will eat bye and bye,
In that glorious land above the sky.
Work and pray, (work and pray),
Live on hay, (live on hay),
You'll get Pie in the Sky,
When you die, (that's a lie!)
And the starvation army they play,
They sing and they dance and they pray,
Till they get all your coin on the drum,
Then they tell you when you're on the bum:
CHORUS
If you fight hard for the good things in life,
They will tell you to stop all the strife,
Be a sheep for the bosses they say
Or to hell you are surely on the way!
CHORUS
Workingfolk of all countries unite;
Side by side we for freedom will fight
When the world and its wealth we have gained,
To the grafters we will sing this refrain:
Last Chorus:
You will eat, bye and bye,
When you've learned how to cook and to fry;
Chop some wood, 'twill do you good
And you'll eat in the sweet bye and bye.
(That's no lie!)
patriotboy |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:05 pm | #
Looks like joe Biden finally got some sack...he was ripping Bush's ass to Matthews - who seemed more than pleased to let him rip.
mobiaxis |
05.24.04 - 9:05 pm | #
I would think that drinking (or multiple bong hits) would be the only way to get through it.
I'd prefer listening to fingernails on a chalkboard than this idiot. Bush and the neocons have proven they are totally clueless about Iraqis and their society, yet the jerk truly believes he knows what is best for them. How the hell did anyone believe this lifelong slacker was remotely qualified to sit where he does?
rocky |
05.24.04 - 9:07 pm | #
How do you suggest those violent criminals be handled?
Not on my nickel.
Saddam seemed to pretty much have them under control and it didn't cost me one fucking dime.
Richard Cranium |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:08 pm | #
Everytime I hear Joe Lieberman I CRINGE!
'Whine, whine, whine, whine oh, woe is me, don't you know that we have to stay the course, whine, whine, whine...'
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 9:08 pm | #
Woodward on Larry King: "He [Bush] made a lot of geographical references."
patriotboy |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:09 pm | #
Destroying Abu Ghraib is tantamount to destroying evidence. And not just historical evidence, but war crimes evidence.
On the Clock |
05.24.04 - 9:09 pm | #
SO who is going to win the bid on operating this new US tax-payer built prison in Iraq? Corrections Corporation of America or Wackenhut Corrections Corporation?
What about all of that Iraq can pay for its own reconstruction.
Syd Barrett |
05.24.04 - 9:10 pm | #
"Bush knew a lot of geographic references" - According to Bob Woodward on Larry King, this now means Bush is fully aware and involved in the post-war planning process.
Awesome - we have a President who can read a fucking map. Yay America.
Stephanie |
05.24.04 - 9:10 pm | #
"Bush knew a lot of geographic references" - According to Bob Woodward on Larry King, this now means Bush is fully aware and involved in the post-war planning process.
Awesome - we have a President who can read a fucking map. Yay America.
Stephanie |
05.24.04 - 9:12 pm | #
"Bush is fond of telling the masses that he "feels that he was chosen by God to lead the 'murkin people"."
Y'know, I'm not a religious person, but I had a small epiphany the other day. If God did choose George Bush, it wasn't to lead us. It was to test us. How're we doing?
Palmer Eldritch |
05.24.04 - 9:12 pm | #
Wooooooooowwwweeeee, I kick butt! Y'all like it? What was your favrite part? You hear me tell me them 'Rackanians how much I love 'em and how much I hate terra?!? Ha! Daddy Dick says I done real good! Damn I love being Preznit of 'Murica!
We will not stop till freedom rains and terra is daid!
Now watch this drive.
Gorje Dubbya Busch |
05.24.04 - 9:13 pm | #
How did this Moron come to be in charge of our country? Oh yeah, never mind...
On the upside, Biden is ripping Bush a new one on MSNBC. Heh.
Can anyone please remind Fox viewers that Dick Morris is a lying, philandering slut?
"Bush was talking to the women of America tonight - that we're fighting the bad guys in Iraq so we don't have to fight them in your kitchen."
Richard Cranium |
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05.24.04 - 9:13 pm | #
Biden just stated he was disappointed not to hear Bush give details about the June 30th transfer of power 'sovreignty',saying, "It's in the details."
I agree with that statement it's all in the details. For instance, the details for compensation of 'Abused Iraqis.'
What will be the procedure?
Will they have to stand in line and see a claims officer?
Will there be a means testing?
What’s the compensation schedule gonna' look like?
-Death by mistake = $5,000
-Torture with sodomy = $1,000
-Wounded by accident = $500
Did Bush say they'll have an Iraqi Constitution at the end of 2005? I guess that Democracy is not only messy, it also very slow...
The Zero-Cons are building a Right Wing’s wet-dream. They are trying to establish a corporate republic in the 'Greater Middle East'.
No wonder they want to stay the course. They just got 'Tort Reform' passed in the UN security Council. They set up a flat tax and they are privatizing everything in sight Plus they are trying to build a country that will always be a friend to US Military.
Scaramouche |
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05.24.04 - 9:15 pm | #
It has been very amusing hearing you America hating libeals bloviate, but make no mistake. Your days to poke fun at our leader are numbered. You will be sorry. All of you. You will wake up one morning soon to find the real Americans are in charge again, and you will be tarred and feathered. Yuk it up while you can traitors, our wrath is vengeful, certain and patient. But not for long.
Liberals Are All Evil |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:17 pm | #
SOS - Same Old Shit....
brucds |
05.24.04 - 9:17 pm | #
Bush makes speeches at military forums because he wants to emphasize he's Commander in Chief and knows damned well that military officers--will always be gentlemen. Poor guys.
Boots |
05.24.04 - 9:18 pm | #
Message to "Liberal's Are Evil."
Please ask your mother to change your diaper.
brucds |
05.24.04 - 9:18 pm | #
"You will wake up one morning soon to find the real Americans are in charge again, and you will be tarred and feathered."
Using your own argument, aren't 'real americans' in charge now?
George W. Bush |
05.24.04 - 9:20 pm | #
He showed great resolve to stay the course with his waffle on UN involvement.
Of course if he hadn't bombed the inspectors out of Iraq in the first place, the UN-supervised election process would begun a year and $200 billion ago.
Peanut |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:21 pm | #
Damn I like that "Libruls Are Evil" fella. He uses some big words, but he sounds like a real 'Murican.
Now watch this drive.
Gorje Dubbya Busch |
05.24.04 - 9:21 pm | #
Man -
Liberals are evil - your diatribe just proves all. I hope that was satire.
Wrath? Vengeance? Yes, that's true America holding the high ground rhetoric
Christine |
05.24.04 - 9:21 pm | #
Absolute recycled tripe.
Nothing new or interesting.
Most booooooring Bush speech ever.
alex |
05.24.04 - 9:22 pm | #
I think that Liberals Are All Evil is a parody..no one could say all that without having a wonderful sense of humor.
Light on the tar, no duck feathers, thanks.
ellroon |
05.24.04 - 9:22 pm | #
Fool me once, shame on, shame on Abu! Gahhhhhhh...rab?
Gee wiz, we did our duty in Afghanistan, and that turned out peachy! So why worry?
Hope is not a plan.
Royko |
05.24.04 - 9:22 pm | #
Hope is not a plan.
Aw, 'cmon, it's right up there with Faith Based Warmaking.
Richard Cranium |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:24 pm | #
real story behind the injury (seeing as kos dispelled the rain excuse) cheney punched him in the face for being such a retard and screwing up his chances to rig oil prices for the next four years during which the increased supply would make him a very wealthy man.
either that or one of the secret service guys with a brain got so sick of him saying nukular that he socked him.
or rove is trying to make him look tough for the camera. rarrr.
just a few explanations tho.
torvus |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:25 pm | #
remember, don't feed the trolls.
Ben |
05.24.04 - 9:26 pm | #
W didn't come up with a single new idea (except perhaps building a modern maximum security prison - which I'll assume wasn't an example of his sense of irony.)
Stay the course, hold the fries...
brucds |
05.24.04 - 9:27 pm | #
Yes I know the devil's in the details and Bush's speech is platitudes so we don't know how the in the hell his plan will pan out, but what good rousing speech attempts to enumerate and get bogged down in the details?
Interesting to note: Bush did call the U.S. occupation an occupation and said that Iraq is NOW the frontline on the war on terrorism (thanks and to the discredit of Bush). Also, Bush seemed to emphasize that the conflict is as much about U.S. security (in my opinion, a falsehood) as it is about Iraqi well-being; a good rhetorical tone.
I don't have confidence in the administration's competence, but this was not a bad speech. Rather it is one I am skeptical of.
Leszek |
05.24.04 - 9:30 pm | #
The Bush plan:
Bush said the five steps are:
* Handing over authority to a sovereign Iraqi government.
* Establishing security.
* Continuing to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure.
* Encouraging more international support.
* Moving toward a national election in Iraq that "will bring forward new leaders empowered by the Iraqi people."
Liberals are Evil, you sound like my kind of manly conservative. I like the cut of your jib. Wanna come over and watch gladiator movies with me.
Gen. JC Christian, Patriot |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:31 pm | #
We're now applauding the building of state-of-the-art maximum security prisons. Now if he'd announced Abu Ghraib would be turned into a survivors museum, that would be worth applauding.
cs |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:32 pm | #
Where is the Abu-Gar-Rape prison? Is that near Abu-Gha-Rab? Or where?
gogf |
05.24.04 - 9:33 pm | #
brucds,
W didn't come up with a single new idea (except perhaps building a modern maximum security prison
I caught that too. I wonder which prison-for-profit corporation will get that contract.
Fuck the fries, hold the intercourse...
Scaramouche |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:34 pm | #
Now if he'd announced Abu Ghraib would be turned into a survivors museum
That's probably why he wants to tear it down before the Iraqis have true sovereignty.
patriotboy |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:34 pm | #
"Pentagon Mulls Replacing Top U.S. General in Iraq
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon (news - web sites) is considering replacing Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez as the top U.S. military officer in Iraq (news - web sites), defense officials said on Monday, but denied the Abu Ghraib Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal was the reason."
Taff |
05.24.04 - 9:35 pm | #
how come he didn't wear the hypno-tie?
jello |
05.24.04 - 9:35 pm | #
W between the lines to the media and his fellow Republicans: we don't have any freakin' idea what to do, but we're countin' on ya to carry this line 'cause if ya don't there be hell t'pay. How 'bout it, can ya go to bat for yer ole buddy one more time.
dre |
05.24.04 - 9:37 pm | #
The Pentagon (news - web sites) is considering replacing Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez as the top U.S. military officer in Iraq (news - web sites), defense officials said on Monday, but denied the Abu Ghraib Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal was the reason."
Of course the Abu Ghraib Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal isn't the reason. It's the lying about it to Congress that's sinking him.
patriotboy |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:39 pm | #
how come he didn't wear the hypno-tie?
The hypno-tie is malfunctioning. It is not creating the proper distortion field. It's been taken back to the lab for adjustments, and hopefully it will be ready in time for the fall debates.
Royko |
05.24.04 - 9:40 pm | #
The Big Lie (Joke?), of course, was "Iraqi Soveriegnty" on June 30. I don't think even Dennis Kucinich believes we could pull that rabbit out of the hat in the next five weeks.
brucds |
05.24.04 - 9:42 pm | #
We're now applauding the building of state-of-the-art maximum security prisons. Now if he'd announced Abu Ghraib would be turned into a survivors museum, that would be worth applauding.
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LOL! Why don't we turn it into an encounter group center while we're at it :D
Amnesty International |
05.24.04 - 9:43 pm | #
"Pentagon replacing Sanchez..."
Actually it's not even the lying to Congress. It's the fact that he's not any good at it....
brucds |
05.24.04 - 9:44 pm | #
Ah, I love the smell of Freudian Slips in the evening. Smells like...Victory!
Warrior King George:
We have come to liberate you.
The People:
What will you do for us?
WKG:
I will build you a better prison!
The People:
Oooooh.....
(extra credit - what country is WKG liberating?)
SuperKey! |
05.24.04 - 9:45 pm | #
The New York Times:
"He also said that the triumph over the opponents of the American-led coalition in Iraq, and the success of the American plan there, would represent a breakthrough in the fight against terrorism."
Haven't heard or read through the speech yet but...daaaamn...if...if he is trying to blur the lines to play off of his "strengths" (according to poll numbers) and try to damn with faint reference to the international community that Iraq is Terra Central....that, my peeps, is shrill with a capital ill.
I might be getting ahead of myself by not reading the whole speech but I think I know why there is a planned trip to Mars. Someone's brain is up there and needs rescuing.
pbb |
05.24.04 - 9:46 pm | #
Richard, Dick Morris said that crap? Anyone who's been paying attention knows that this macho posturing shit goes down terribly with most women.
Trent |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:47 pm | #
Ok, it was obfuscation, empty statement, more obfuscation, statement that at the very least needs an aterisk to flesh out the details. More of the same.
Let's confront the specifics of the 'plan'. As far as I can tell there were two statements that were news to me, or, I could have written this 'speech' except for these revelations. 1) Elections by January. Well, all right! But then 2) Actual people in office by the end of 2005. Huh? Elections by January but then people in office a year later? And strangely, no details on either claim. Methinks its more elephant dung.
Please, somebody explain to W. what sovereignty means because handpicked figurehead leaders with no legislative power doesn't fit the bill.
Brien |
05.24.04 - 9:48 pm | #
He really lost the military folks when he said they were going to have to continue to sacrifice. But he appreciates it.
Their sacrifice started tonight - do you think any of them appreciated a required-attendance event at 8 pm which they know is just a campaign PR stunt?
Bush makes speeches at military forums because he wants to emphasize he's Commander in Chief and knows damned well that military officers--will always be gentlemen.
Gentlemen, hell. They can be court-martialed for showing disrespect to the President. It's probably the only non-fundraiser forum where he can avoid boos.
Wapiti |
05.24.04 - 9:50 pm | #
Hey AI, what do you have against Amnesty International? As a member, I was directly responsible for gettin a Jehovahs Witness realeased from a Soviet psychiatric hospital. It's a good organization. It's saved people.
patriotboy |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 9:50 pm | #
"Ah boo boo boo grape ape"? WTF?
S in Mich |
05.24.04 - 9:53 pm | #
"Ah boo boo boo grape ape"? WTF?
S in Mich |
05.24.04 - 9:54 pm | #
From AOL:
How would you describe Pres. Bush's speech:
Unconvincing: 58&
Convincing: 42%
I want to know what the hell the 42% were watching.
Humanitarian Do-Gooder |
05.24.04 - 9:54 pm | #
"Think about it: The president, the object of so much labored affection from the network news organizations, claims he is going to plot the course towards peace in Iraq, and the networks collectively shrug their shoulders. To watch, or to listen, you had to seek it out. That won't plug the holes in Bush's leaky boat. Tree falls in the forest, and all that."
"Dammit, this is still sweeps month, Karl. I know, I know. Yes, I've seen
the president's ratings. No, we can't let CBS get ahead of us tonight. No I
doubt if we can run it later. Listen,
why don't you call back after the first of June, we'll talk. What's that? Hey you could have threatened us with that shit two years ago, but not now pal...Yeah, well, fuck you too, Asshole...
Demographics |
05.24.04 - 9:54 pm | #
poll:
via randomfactor on dkos thread
bakerfiels.com (URL has link)
He sounds right on target to me. I support him all the way.
14%
His blueprint, like the rest of this war, isn't worth the paper it's printed on. This administration has got us neck-deep in a quagmire and it's clear they have no idea what to do now.
53%
I thought his speech was OK, but I disagreed with some of his points on how to handle the Iraq situation.
1%
I don't care what kind of plan he says he has now. He lied to us about weapons of mass destruction and he should be impeached.
26%
People are so upset about this, I don't think it matters if he gave the Gettysburg Address Monday night. His campaign is sunk.
7%
President Bush exhales at the conclusion of his nationally televised address at the U.S. Army War College in Carlisle, Penn. Monday, May 24, 2004. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
Peanut |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:03 pm | #
There's a whole college devoted to war?
edub |
05.24.04 - 10:04 pm | #
As Saturday Night Live's Darryl Hammond (as Chris Matthews) would say...."Mr. President, you not only drank the Kool-Aid, you went back for seconds"!
Ed Tracey |
05.24.04 - 10:04 pm | #
Richard, Dick Morris said that crap? Anyone who's been paying attention knows that this macho posturing shit goes down terribly with most women.
Almost word for word.
His ex should have bobbited him.
Richard Cranium |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:04 pm | #
Worst part was when he said we were going to help the Iraqis build a "civilized society".
Uh, I think they already had one before we went and bombed the shit out of them.
"Ahh will not seek, nor will I accept, my party's nomination for another term as President."
markmywords |
05.24.04 - 10:05 pm | #
So now we have to tear down and
replace that prison? If we have to
replace everything aWol touches
and ruins, we'll be in deep hock!
Bartimous |
05.24.04 - 10:07 pm | #
As Saturday Night Live's Darryl Hammond (as Chris Matthews) would say...."Mr. President, you not only drank the Kool-Aid, you went back for seconds"!
Ed Tracey |
05.24.04 - 10:08 pm | #
Sorry to change the subject, but I can't get into Michael Moore's website. Anybody else having this problem?
Doug |
05.24.04 - 10:08 pm | #
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon (news - web sites) is considering replacing Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez as the top U.S. military officer in Iraq (news - web sites), defense officials said on Monday, but denied the Abu Ghraib Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal was the reason."
He'll be so toast when Cpt. Reese testifies that dirty Sanchez witnessed torture at Abu Rhubarb.
Felix Deutsch |
05.24.04 - 10:08 pm | #
"Ahh will not seek, nor will I accept, my party's nomination for another term as President."
As I recall, LBJ said that after the New Hampshire primary. I think it's too late for that now.
patriotboy |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:08 pm | #
Another America Online Poll on Bush; How would you describe President Bush's speech?
Unconvincing 58%
Convincing 42%
How would you rate President Bush's handling of Iraq?
Poor 54%
Excellent 23%
Good 16%
Fair 7%
Total Votes: 55,905
Balta |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:10 pm | #
Bush appears to have made hay of the fact that the Abu Ghraib prison will be destroyed and a new prison will be built in its place. This is not news. A bipartisan bill to destroy Abu Ghraib passed the House last week 308-114. It was sponsored by Weldon (R-PA) and Murtha (D-PA). Once again Bush is taking credit for other people's work.
Poppy McCool |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:11 pm | #
From AOL:
How would you describe Pres. Bush's speech:
Unconvincing: 58&
Convincing: 42%
I want to know what the hell the 42% were watching.
Humanitarian Do-Gooder
well, I'm convinced he's a moron, does that count?
preznit giv me turkee |
05.24.04 - 10:12 pm | #
I missed the *speech*. Thanks for the play-by-play. Always a laugh riot.
Abu Grape. Good grief.
Worst. President. Ever.
One of the top stories at CNN.com:
Bush's approval rating hovers near record low
pie |
05.24.04 - 10:13 pm | #
White House: Sanchez is being replaced becuase he has done nothing wrong. He's been a "superb" gulag master. This is just normal rotation of personnel.
Why aren't you writing this down?
melior |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:16 pm | #
Sorry to change the subject, but I can't get into Michael Moore's website. Anybody else having this problem?
Doug |
05.24.04 - 10:16 pm | #
frankly, i'd rather eat a plate of fresh vomit than listen to a george bush speech
dan hoppe |
05.24.04 - 10:17 pm | #
Pablo,
Thanks for the links to all the photos of a beat-up, brusied and battered Bush.
Is it possible that George W. Bush may be a victim of domestic violence? Were the other "accidents" around the time he was to deliver speeches?
As I've said before . . .
Laura will say or do anything to stay in the whitehouse.
George W. Bush is running for President like his life depends on it - because it does!
He knows that if he doesn't win, Laura will run over him just like she did her last boyfriend.
Drink repeatedly until democracy magically appears or you're too hammered to tell the difference.
Thersites |
05.24.04 - 10:18 pm | #
I think we should drag this Bush fellow down to Wu's place.
Al Swearengen |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:19 pm | #
Now our national security has been turned over to the UN and that ominous French Veto! Thank God for omnipotent leader who has shown the UN and those French who is boss.
MacMan |
05.24.04 - 10:21 pm | #
President Bush exhales at the conclusion of his nationally televised address at the U.S. Army War College in Carlisle, Penn. Monday, May 24, 2004. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
Alternative interpretation: an aside to Karl Rove, indicating "Boy, did that speech blow."
Lyndon Johnson |
05.24.04 - 10:21 pm | #
I hope those profiteers at Halliburton get Abu-Gah-raped with a chemical light and then have to jack off in each other's mouths. That would be cool. heh-heh, heh-heh
The Fool |
05.24.04 - 10:22 pm | #
An urgent investigation has been launched in Washington into whether Iran played a role in manipulating the US into the Iraq war by passing on bogus intelligence through Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress, it emerged yesterday.
Some intelligence officials now believe that Iran used the hawks in the Pentagon and the White House to get rid of a hostile neighbour, and pave the way for a Shia-ruled Iraq.
Just when you think it can't get any worse, it gets worse.....
I cannot fucking believe that there are actually people out there who think Bush is doing an "excellent" job in Iraq.
That's really sad.
Now watch this drive!
Chunky Phelps |
05.24.04 - 10:24 pm | #
Apparently Bush announced that he was going to demolish Abu Ghraib and build a new prison there. This is not news. A bipartisan bill to destroy Abu Ghraib passed the House last week 308-114. It was sponsored by Weldon (R-PA) and Murtha (D-PA). Once again Bush is taking credit for other people's work.
Poppy McCool |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:25 pm | #
I only watched long enough to hear him once again say that we are fighting terrorism in Iraq, then had to turn it off. Repeating the same lie over and over. Our consolation is that his approval numbers go down every time he goes on TV.
Davis |
05.24.04 - 10:25 pm | #
OK, one last comment on the AOL poll. Maybe some of the 42% who found it "convincing" meant that the speech convinced them that Bush is an incompetent moron?
Now watch this drive!
Chunky Phelps |
05.24.04 - 10:26 pm | #
So we have to tear down Abu Ghraib and build a new prison? Apparently, it's the building that's evil and not the fuckwits running it. I wonder who will make money off this construction project...
Pheo |
05.24.04 - 10:27 pm | #
"We're going to tear down that old prison, and replace it with a new modern one, based on this design by Albert Speer..."
pbg |
05.24.04 - 10:28 pm | #
Hey some Great news! Prof Pollkatz back with New! Improved! graphics, maps and polls.
Phredd |
05.24.04 - 10:29 pm | #
A Boo Grape:
Very funny. Hope you don't mind, but I just cut and pasted into an e-mail to send to both republican and democrat friends.
Anonymous |
05.24.04 - 10:34 pm | #
Hooray! I've been jonesing for pollkatz for months!
Melissa O |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:35 pm | #
Dang, we're tearing down what Bechtel or KBR et al. rebuilt after the Mar.-Apr. 2003 invasion? It was 80 percent destroyed.
This is truly classic double-dipping. The scam is a complete 360: they make gobs of dough building or destroying, repeatedly.
Mark Abbott |
05.24.04 - 10:35 pm | #
Phredd - You think that story is ominous? I laughed my ass off all the way through. It's so fucking absurd you have to laugh. These brilliant neo-cons have been thoroughly conned. And the CIA is definitely after the Chimp's ass.
I absolutely loved that story - this actually might get every last one of them hung.
Tena |
05.24.04 - 10:36 pm | #
So was giving that speech at Carlisle some sort of in-your-face thing because the war college criticized his handling of the "war on terror" back in January?
cs |
Homepage |
05.24.04 - 10:36 pm | #
It would have been a lot better PR to tear down Abu Graib and turn it into a part with a plaground and a big fountain. They could put a plaque in place that celebrated the worl united against torture and human rights abuses.
God dammit. i am so pissed at these idiots for screwing up this whole thing. If this was done right, it could really have been a great thing.
Ackley Kid |
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05.24.04 - 10:37 pm | #
Don't forget that Bechtel already got paid shitloads for refurbishing A Boo Grape. Including that mysteriously familiar yellow paint job.
And Bechtel will get the reconstruction deal, using the model prisons they've built in the US. Wonderful.
anonymous in nc |
05.24.04 - 10:38 pm | #
So we have to tear down Abu Ghraib and build a new prison? Apparently, it's the building that's evil
"So was giving that speech at Carlisle some sort of in-your-face thing because the war college criticized his handling of the "war on terror" back in January?
cs "
Yes. It was.
This idiot doesn't give a damn for the actual professional military, that represented by the War College at Carlisle.
Actually. It makes me so sick that I can't breathe.
GWPDA |
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05.24.04 - 10:43 pm | #
Maybe the real reason the prison is being razed is because Bush can't pronounce its name. Now he can say, "Abu Bye Bye."
susan |
05.24.04 - 10:44 pm | #
Yall seen this ominous story yet?
Oh jeez. Just read it. And look who they have defending the necons. Laurie Myloe.
Uh, okay. Laurie, so tell us again how Saddam was involved with 9/11 and the Oklahoma bombing and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and the...
LOL! Why don't we turn it into an encounter group center while we're at it :D
Hate feeding the troll, but hey, Anonymous Imbecile: if you're going to live up to your trollish pseudonym, wouldn't you be celebrating that? Oh, no, you wanted Dachau levelled and Bechtel to build a replacement.
anonymous in nc |
05.24.04 - 10:46 pm | #
O'Lielly just asked his viewers to vote on the following question.
Should we invite Michael Moore to appear on the Factor?
Make Bill O'Reilly enter the no spin zone with Michael Moore.
I couldn't even listen to the whole damn thing. It was just a rehashing of his usual terrorists hate freedom, the Iraqi people want a democracy, a few killers are responsible for the violence, sovereignty will magically appear after June 30 bullshit yada, yada, yada. What the hell is he going to say in 5 more speeches? I get sleepy just thinking about it...
Liz |
05.24.04 - 10:47 pm | #
Dear Mr, Liberals Are All Evil,
Could I please address you as Mr. Evil-It'd be so much simpler? I would like to discuss some of your assumptions in this statement:
You will wake up one morning soon to find the real Americans are in charge again, and you will be tarred and feathered.
Would you agree that the "Real Amercians" are the Patriots of the American Revolution, such as Washington, Franklin, John Hancock, and even Jefferson?
Was actually an hour ago but haloscan took forever.
Watching hannity and Colmes. Richard Perle accused Gen Zinni of being anti-semetic for naming all neocon Jews on 60 Minutes. Ziini was on with Tom Clancy as the next guests. Colmes asked him about the allegations of Perle. He said that he doesn't even no what the neocon affiliations are. This should be publicized. Fucking outrageous cuntbag Perle.
Erik |
05.24.04 - 10:50 pm | #
What struck me, when he was talking about the situation in Falullah and the important decision not to use 'overwhelming force' (or whatever term he used) how it was nothing to do with him -- all down to 'the commanders'. He sounded particularly un-presidential at that moment.
anon |
05.24.04 - 10:50 pm | #
If being no good at lying is criteria for transfer, what do you hear on Gen. Kimmitt? Or is it only lying to Congress that counts?
clio |
05.24.04 - 10:50 pm | #
I love what I saw on TPM:
WWLD
What Would Lyndon Do
Wish I had a bumper sticker.
everyonelovespete |
05.24.04 - 10:51 pm | #
He damaged his head when he fell off the bike....
Shouldn't he be replaced now ?
smirking monkey |
05.24.04 - 10:52 pm | #
Can anyone please remind Fox viewers that Dick Morris is a lying, philandering slut?
"Bush was talking to the women of America tonight - that we're fighting the bad guys in Iraq so we don't have to fight them in your kitchen."
Hell, after my son and his friends get through with my kitchen, I think I'd rather have terrorists there. It would be less mess.
Besides, I'm a hell of a lot more worried about terrorists attacking me in my WORKPLACE, Dickhead Morris. I'm vulnerable, you know, as a FEMALE postal WORKER. Or did you forget about the anthrax terrorism, Dickhead? Forget that postal workers died because some fucked-up wingnut decided to scare the bejesus out of a bunch of liberals via the USPS?
Do I even need to ask...?
LJ |
05.24.04 - 10:53 pm | #
OMG, Scarborough just had a guest on who pronounced it "abu gahh-reb"!
Do you think they're all going to start pronouncing it that way to make the president look better?
Royko |
05.24.04 - 10:54 pm | #
Liz: What the hell is he going to say in 5 more speeches? I get sleepy just thinking about it...
My guess: Karen Hughes is back big time, to the rescue, been blowing 'I hear you now' smoke up the prince's ass. The two of them have this idea that if she writes lots of speeches (and mouths along) as he performs, everything will be okay.
anon |
05.24.04 - 10:55 pm | #
To Mr. Evil,
Would you understand someone reaching the conclusion:
If the Founding Fathers had been Conservatives the United States would not exist; They were the great liberals of their day.
One more thing to consider, the historical facts, or if you will, precedent:
During the days of the American Revolution, where we gained our freedoms, most of the tarring and feathering was done by radical patriots to the Conservative supporters of the Crown living in manor houses.
So to the quick- according to you statement:
You will wake up one morning (Are you certain, some of us work nights?)
soon to find the real Americans (Like our Founding Fathers, right?)
are in charge again (Are you suggesting that the people in charge aren’t Real Americans?)
and you will be tarred and feathered.( Would we have a choice between ostracize or exile?)
Please feel free to correspond in a polite and courteous manner to this interlocution.
Aside from the "fabulous" new make up, you still can't get that monkey to speak.
As for crime scenes, Kerry is going to have to delay moving into the WH. They need to go all over that place like ugly on an ape.
MeToo |
05.24.04 - 10:56 pm | #
Fucking outrageous cuntbag Perle.
That should be prick sack, if you don't mind.
nur al cubicle |
05.24.04 - 11:00 pm | #
New prison where the refurbished one was? Well, whatever.
I just want to know if it will still have the ubiquitous white plastic chair!
LJ |
05.24.04 - 11:01 pm | #
Missed the speech, prefering a nice dinner out with the spouse. Was just wondering, did he use Scottie's priceless line from this afternoon: "The enemies of freedom will not prevail."
No shit. He actually said that in response to a question about what actions (if any) were being taken to rally the Coalition members?
Did anyone else notice the prominently placed very-muslim looking soldiers the preznit shook hands with? Wonder who did the seating chart...
cyrus |
05.24.04 - 11:02 pm | #
..."abu gahh-reb"!
Do you think they're all going to start pronouncing it that way to make the president look better?
Thank god for TiVo and all my saved up episodes of Law and Order. I don't have to watch the War Criminal's lies.
somefuckingchick |
05.24.04 - 11:05 pm | #
"So was giving that speech at Carlisle some sort of in-your-face thing because the war college criticized his handling of the "war on terror" back in January?
cs "
Maybe BushieWushie thought that Carlisle was Carlyle, as in Poppy's friends, so they would be friendly to him...
LJ |
05.24.04 - 11:05 pm | #
Has anybody else notice that *'s speeches seem to hit the weeks that the Daily Show is in reruns?
disMiss'em |
05.24.04 - 11:16 pm | #
Aren't any of you really, really afraid that now that the N????'s are in the WH and disallowing true freedom of speech that the November elections will mean nothing once again?
The puppet spoke/the marionette twitched but as usual said nothing.
However, freedoms are being lost in every county of the USA...there have never been so many homeless walking the streets; nor children who can't read or add; people being outsourced from jobs for the gilded lives of the rich;it is time to save America from the bigoted bushies. Everyone take action....
ab |
05.24.04 - 11:18 pm | #
Tena,
I thought it was funny on the face of it, those dumb-fuck neocons, but I was thinking more of the long-term implications of the US getting so transparently suckered, and plus I can't figger out what's to happen next over there. I have a son in the Army. It can't be good.
Phredd |
05.24.04 - 11:19 pm | #
So Bush stunk up the place?
Like we expected otherwise?
I guess this means Condi and Karen Hughes are going to have to put out something fierce tonite to help him get back to fealing like a Texan.
"How the hell does tearing down Abu Ghraib and putting up a new prison do ANYTHING for what happened there?" ANSWER: it covers up the bodies buried underneath.
Peg |
05.24.04 - 11:20 pm | #
Now I heard the prez speech on the radio, so maybe I'm out of it, but wasn't that applause on cue? Like everyone stopped clapping after exactly four seconds. So who was holding the stopwatch? Himmler?
Rog |
05.24.04 - 11:26 pm | #
sweet jesus - this guy is fucking crazy... President dipshit. cspan.org has the realplayer link
profBooty |
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05.24.04 - 11:26 pm | #
"How the hell does tearing down Abu Ghraib and putting up a new prison do ANYTHING for what happened there?" ANSWER: it covers up the bodies buried underneath."
Peg
-It also gives Haliburton something to do.
Admiral Komack |
05.24.04 - 11:27 pm | #
Anyone see Al Jazeera's English home page, funny action cartoon of Bush falling off the bike (scroll down to the bottom)
Karin |
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05.24.04 - 11:28 pm | #
Erik,
I really expected that OReilly and his bunch would have to choose between ignoring Moore and F911, or going for the ratings and fanning the flames. OReilly is just ahead of the curve of pissing on his glorious leader.
J Edgar |
05.24.04 - 11:28 pm | #
He damaged his head when he fell off the bike....
Should he be reading speeches he didn't write so soon ?
smirking monkey |
05.24.04 - 11:31 pm | #
His ex should have bobbited him.
...nononono..Barbara should have bobbited Poppy
DeepEar |
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05.24.04 - 11:31 pm | #
Skimmed this thread drunk after thankfully missing most of Miserable Failure Smirking Fucking Evil Murdering Disaster Monkey's "speech," and/but want to ask am I the only one who thought the most interesting moment of the first 20 minutes at least was the Freudian fuck-up "calvary" when he was supposed to say "cavalry"? I mean, warpreznit as he is an' all, shouldn't he oughta know the fucking difference?
Or was this just another subliminable signal to his rapture-lusting base?
Peace good people.
Speedy (formerly billy budd, et al.)
Speedy |
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05.24.04 - 11:31 pm | #
Karbala Balance Sheet:
Not a hotel, not a shop, not a hotel left standing on Al-Mokhayam Avenue. Five or six grand hotels are now blackened hulks. On Khazwini Street, two public schools destroyed. Downed utility poles, overturned cars, smashed glass.
Did the Chimposter mention Karbala?
nur al cubicle |
05.24.04 - 11:34 pm | #
SO who is going to win the bid on operating this new US tax-payer built prison in Iraq? Corrections Corporation of America or Wackenhut Corrections Corporation?
They might actually know what they're doing. No, I'm sure there'll be a nice no-bid cost-plus contract awarded to -- ta da! -- Halliburton.
Basharov |
05.24.04 - 11:34 pm | #
hotel shop or restaurant
nur al cubicle |
05.24.04 - 11:34 pm | #
Occasionally the crowd began to applaud. At the beginning they gave him a standing "ovation." What are the chances that Rove had the seats wired to give shocks at the appropriate points in Dubya's "stirring" reading of his teleprompter?
cosmosis |
05.24.04 - 11:38 pm | #
And another thing. Why is it that, on the day of the wonderful news that Farenheit 911 won the grant prize at the Cannes film festival that Michael Moore's web site goes down?
Are these the same folks that put the Al Jeezera web site out of commission for weeks?
Is anyone at the Pentagon smart enough to be a hacker?
Rog |
05.24.04 - 11:41 pm | #
Just saw the replay of that- it's still funny as shit.
On second thought, having a dumbass for preznit isn't funny at all.
fourlegsgood |
05.24.04 - 11:45 pm | #
"Now I heard the prez speech on the radio, so maybe I'm out of it, but wasn't that applause on cue? Like everyone stopped clapping after exactly four seconds. So who was holding the stopwatch? Himmler?"
Rog 05.24.04 - 11:26 pm
I thought that there was something peculiar about the applause too. It just cut off - no off-cue, erratic, lingering clapping - almost like someone turning the volume down on am applause machine.
jimmiraybob |
05.24.04 - 11:47 pm | #
Aren't any of you really, really afraid that now that the N????'s are in the WH and disallowing true freedom of speech that the November elections will mean nothing once again?
No offense, but where the fuck have you been? we bitch about those issues every single day of the week.
Welcome to the party, pal.
fourlegsgood |
05.24.04 - 11:47 pm | #
Here's something amusing: the beginning of the open thread at Kos has pictures of W with no left eye injury yesterday. Go figure.
Humanitarian Do-Gooder |
05.24.04 - 11:47 pm | #
Not to pile on our beloved president in what is obviously a difficult time for him ... BUT, if the highlight of a speech billed as describing how we're going to return Iraq to democracy is the building of a super-dooper new supermax prison, I'd say our little imperial adventure is now well and truly fucked.
Exporting American values, indeed.
Professor Tournesol |
05.24.04 - 11:48 pm | #
I'm watching nightline, and the people talking "for" the preznit all sound manic.
Like they're totally panicked.
As they should be. Dumb shits.
fourlegsgood |
05.24.04 - 11:48 pm | #
He clearly doesn't know the meaning of the word "sovereignity". Lucky for him, neither does most of his audience.
If someone already nailed this- I missed it. Sorry.
everyman |
05.24.04 - 11:48 pm | #
"I missed the first two minutes because no major network, not even PBS, is carrying it ON A NYC FLAGSHIP STATION!
What is wrong with us?"
===========================
Direct that question to Rove, who requested time only on CNN, Fox, and C-Span
This has been extensively discussed at Kos. The lib'rul press is going to get the blame, but it was Rove's decision. Some of the affiliates carried it in different markets. Not sure who's feed they used.
rppa |
05.24.04 - 11:49 pm | #
And "bike accident", indeed.
If it hasn't happened already, my money is on Prince George falling way, way off the wagon before he leaves 1600 Pennsylvania Ave next January.
Professor Tournesol |
05.24.04 - 11:50 pm | #
" replace it with a new, modern one."
well the old prison power grid would brown out if too many genitals were hooked up at the same time, plus it will be Halburton Made so you know it will be quility work.
Triple D |
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05.24.04 - 11:50 pm | #
Yet another thing. We can't rebuild Alcatraz for four decades but we can rebuild Abu Gar-rib?
(Sheeze, we ain't got no words like thaht in Teeks Ass, so howinthe hail ahm I suppose to pronounce thaht?)
Why the hell don't we rebuild our wretched facilities for youth, starting with the California Youth Authority, which has been compared to Abu-gar-rib on a good day...
Rog |
05.24.04 - 11:51 pm | #
Abu Grape... isn't that the standard flavor for the Republican's Kool-Ade?
MisterX |
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05.24.04 - 11:51 pm | #
I read somewhere, and can't confirm. that the new prison would be called "Camp Redemption". Sorry if that doesn't pan out, but can you imagine?
Flavio |
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05.24.04 - 11:52 pm | #
An empty suit mouthing empty words. The clothes have no emperor.
Toonscribe |
05.24.04 - 11:52 pm | #
W didn't come up with a single new idea (except perhaps building a modern maximum security prison - which I'll assume wasn't an example of his sense of irony.)
==========================
You get one guess which large corporation beginning with the letter H is somehow going to win the no-bid contract for that one.
rppa |
05.24.04 - 11:53 pm | #
" What if, the bike incident was the Omnipotent One's stab at offing the offensive one... coulda been a walnut or chestnut or whatever sorta miraculously rolled in front of chimpy's front tire causing him to take a header."
It must have been a miracle 'cause W slipped on the mud after 8 days of NO RAIN.
Brian Boru |
05.25.04 - 12:16 am | #
What did you think of President Bush's speech Monday night and his "blueprint" for Iraq?
Posted: Mon, May 24, 2004
He sounds right on target to me. I support him all the way.
10%
His blueprint, like the rest of this war, isn't worth the paper it's printed on. This administration has got us neck-deep in a quagmire and it's clear they have no idea what to do now.
54%
I thought his speech was OK, but I disagreed with some of his points on how to handle the Iraq situation.
1%
I don't care what kind of plan he says he has now. He lied to us about weapons of mass destruction and he should be impeached.
28%
People are so upset about this, I don't think it matters if he gave the Gettysburg Address Monday night. His campaign is sunk.
7%
Total Votes : 361
J2 |
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05.25.04 - 12:18 am | #
It's a relief to know that the inanimate cinder-block walls of Abu Ghraib will be held accountable. Because this whole thing was really their fault.
superdude |
05.25.04 - 12:18 am | #
poll is at bakersfield.com
see URL link
J2 |
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05.25.04 - 12:19 am | #
I hereby declare this an Open Thread.
Chief General Maxime Weygand |
05.25.04 - 12:26 am | #
taradiddle \tair-uh-DIH-dul\ noun
1 : fib
*2 : pretentious nonsense
Britt Hume's pompous news-speaky piddle
comes from brain cells notoriously little.
Dubya's speech ---> vapid, Orwellian
he portrays as Churchillian!
It's called in the business, "taradiddle."
(This limerick guaranteed to be both fair and balanced.)
Baker |
05.25.04 - 12:29 am | #
"I thought I had come unstuck in time and was watching Howdie Doodie, except Howdie usually made sense when he talked."
Well, of course! This speech was given by the Flub-a-Dub.
There were details, there, c'mon! I'm smart, I can run things! I got that 5 point plan thingy.
Sure, it's a little short on details, but, who needs details. Details are boring. I'm a big picture guy, I don't need no stinkin details.
Don't you know who I am?
Duckman GR |
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05.25.04 - 12:41 am | #
Why the hell was Peggy Noonan talking about Jake LaMotta and Sugar Ray Robinson? The lady has gone off her rocker...
DaveInSeattle |
05.25.04 - 12:47 am | #
new maximum security prison? stay the course? gosh--i am TOTALLY convinced. yay! i love The Leader! when i grow up, i'm gonna' be a fire engine! woo-woo-woo!
(we'll see it tomorrow on at least a few op-eds, no doubt. and my apologies to The Simpsons.)
Librarian |
05.25.04 - 12:56 am | #
More Dirty Tricks on the Road to Bush's Reinstallment .
It sure is curious how documents entering the Bush Machine exit with blank pages. It happened with Iraq's 11,800-page dossier on weapons and now it has happened again with the report on prison abuse produced by Major General Antonio M. Taguba. Some 2,000 pages were missing," reports Time Magazine. If indeed the Bushites filched the pages it would hardly be surprising or unusual. This is a criminal administration at ease with deception and thievery. Lies, dirty tricks, and theft are their modus operandi -- from the 2000 election onward.
Obviously, the pages in question are not missing because they contain embarrassing nudie shots of the Bush twins. The pages are missing because there is ample evidence of Bush administration complicity in the torture of Iraqi detainees.
of course the whore media will let this slide...
Uncle $cam |
05.25.04 - 1:03 am | #
Q:You get one guess which large corporation beginning with the letter H is somehow going to win the no-bid contract for that one.-rppa
A:"H"aloscan??- Nicholas
Whoaa-Haloscan does not equal Halibuton, not even! One just sucks, the other charges $19.95 for every glowstick.
Scaramouche |
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05.25.04 - 1:05 am | #
Damned if Dubya didn't sound just like Charlie Brown's teacher!
Actually, that was "wah wah wah wah wah wah...wah wah wah wah...wah wah wah wah"
and yes, he did. I've said it before and I'll say it again: unfuckingbelievable.
Deanocrat |
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05.25.04 - 1:11 am | #
I just read the comment about Michael Moore's website being down.
Yes, I am having the same problem.
Not only is www.michaelmoore.com down, but so it the Awful Truth site and the Dog Eat Dog (his production company) site.
I can't wait to plunk down my $10 to see Fahrenheit 911.
RoscoeDuck |
05.25.04 - 1:11 am | #
Yesterday Dear Leader gave an important address about Iraq.
He chose as his text a passage from the book of Naval Proverbs.
"Excrementa non excolo", or as it is written in the Revised Standard Version;
"You can't polish a turd". As always, Dear Leader did a masterful job elucidating this
obscure text.
Anonymous |
05.25.04 - 1:13 am | #
I am a dumaass. Unka dick, did I doo it rihgt? I think they bot it. Letz get that oil from thos A - rabs qwik.
Dumya |
05.25.04 - 1:13 am | #
Didn't hear the speech...or read the thread...but let me guess:
Freedom is threatened by Terrorists, who hate Freedom!
Am I in the ballpark at least?
Philalethes |
05.25.04 - 1:17 am | #
And now for the last straw. There is considerable buzz in the Arabic Press about the "staged" killing of Nicholas Berg.
It seems they have throughly investigated the video of the beheading and found remarkable similiarities to a setting inside the Abu Garaib prison. Notice the white seat that Berg is sitting on compared to the white seat Private England is sitting on. Go to
This story is appearing all over the Middle East...
Rog |
05.25.04 - 1:19 am | #
I thought George's chin makeup was very professional.
I wonder if it ITCHED durin' the SPEETCH.
mr. stitches |
05.25.04 - 1:22 am | #
I hope he tries surfing next.
mr. stitches |
05.25.04 - 1:29 am | #
This was just tooooo wacko for me...a drug-damaged deserter from the Vietnam war standing at the front of a room of military officers at the country's War College as their Commander In Chief.
I think I've fallen into the eighth dimension.
waynorth |
05.25.04 - 2:05 am | #
seems like the speech would have been the perfect time to announce that general sanchez was being replaced. i guess they forgot.
Olaf glad and big |
05.25.04 - 2:19 am | #
let's keep an eye on what news they release in the middle of the night after next week's speech. i bet a pattern will emerge pretty quickly.
Olaf glad and big |
05.25.04 - 2:21 am | #
Julian Borger in Washington
Tuesday May 25, 2004
The Guardian
An urgent investigation has been launched in Washington into whether Iran played a role in manipulating the US into the Iraq war by passing on bogus intelligence through Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress, it emerged yesterday.
Some intelligence officials now believe that Iran used the hawks in the Pentagon and the White House to get rid of a hostile neighbour, and pave the way for a Shia-ruled Iraq.
Says it all, or if it doesn't the whole article does.
EPT |
05.25.04 - 3:03 am | #
Boo boo’s speech was dweebier and more palaver than ever and will not stop his thuddy thud thud .
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MinnieB9 |
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05.25.04 - 4:15 am | #
Apparently, it's the building that's evil
Why don't they just get John Ashcroft to lay his hands on it and exorcise it. Certainly with the connections of the most reborn administration in history they've got someone who can do it if Mr. Calico is too chicken to take on Satan.
Maybe they'll have to get Little Ed to come in, get the ol' devil in the Bulgarian headlock and put his head in a soda machine.
EPT |
05.25.04 - 4:18 am | #
Cheese Louise, if this was a movie, the popcorn would be the most interesting part .
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In fact, when I came back from my walk that was what I shoulda done, fixed me my popcorn, cheese louise, what was there in the speech to even comment on .
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except the nyt and the wa po were hilariously beside themselves and rolling on the floor and importuning Dubya.
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Cheese Louise, like the duffer is gonna change.
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And he’s gonna do 6 more of these?
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One question: Why?
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cheese louise. .
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MinnieB9 |
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05.25.04 - 4:19 am | #
The notion that Iran lured Chalabi and Bush into invading their Western tuchas is ludicrous .
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The notion that Chalabi with all his known problems was the person Bushies were banking on to salvage their sorry tuchas is even more ludicrous .
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Now Bush is playing kissy face with the UN .
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MinnieB9 |
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05.25.04 - 4:37 am | #
The biggest problem they had was Bungling Bremer and his stupid policy of turning our military into Mary Poppins and Joe Friday and planting a target on the back of every soldier.
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MinnieB9 |
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05.25.04 - 4:39 am | #
Reports said Bush was wearing heavy make up.
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MinnieB9 |
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05.25.04 - 4:41 am | #
Practically all the troops are still ours.
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Practically all the costs too.
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MinnieB9 |
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05.25.04 - 4:45 am | #
I think he’s gonna go more and more into the handover details, but change will only come when we have change in the White House.
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MinnieB9 |
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05.25.04 - 4:47 am | #
Deeds, not words, that is what John Kerry wants to see.
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Bush will also have to do much more for opening the books on iWaq and making them available to international scrutiny.
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Dude’s speeches are way too wordy, nobody can grok them.
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Cheese Louise, can’t he just talk like a normal person.
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MinnieB9 |
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05.25.04 - 4:54 am | #
In the next 5 weeks, in which speech does Bush announce that he is firing Wolfowitz .
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MinnieB9 |
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05.25.04 - 5:05 am | #
There's no way there will be five more of these. I figure two or three.
blah |
05.25.04 - 5:23 am | #
From what I hear from people around me, Bush can say what he wants - they have just stopped listening. Maybe the world no longer listens, and it is all about the US and the election.
The only way to get the people over here to listen again would be to say the obvious: "I apologize. It was wrong. We cannot handle this alone. The US must give up its all-advised ME-policies and cooperate with other nations. We must try to avert the worst consequences that may arise out of this colossal mistake. I resign."
Something like that - but it would take more panache than Bush has demonstrated in his entire life so far, at least as far as I know.
teuton |
05.25.04 - 6:20 am | #
Atrios, it took me over an hour to get here. Is there something going on with blogger? I had to google search blogger and then do a blogger +atrios in order to get here this morning. I tried to link from a bunch of other blogs and that didn't work either. Refreshing the page didn't work. Has the DOJ been knocking at your door? Cue twilight zone them song....
Adjusting tin foil hat and hoping it's due to more traffic.
from the choir |
05.25.04 - 7:06 am | #
from the choir - I had problems, too. There's a backdoor route (through the archives) that often works during weird...uh...outages. Keeping tinfoil handy.
Kate |
05.25.04 - 7:42 am | #
Notice the white seat that Berg is sitting on compared to the white seat Private England is sitting on.
The white chair again!
What torture chamber...er, PRISON, in Iraq is complete without the white chair???
LJ |
05.25.04 - 7:43 am | #
Guys, there are like a million good reasons to doubt the Berg video, like the magical inability of a living human to bleed when cut, and the stupid chair is the least credible of them. There is no way to tie that very chair, even if you found it, to the crime and there is no reason to think white plastic chairs are somehow tied to prisons. You're pretty much making a joke about a heinous murder.
samara morgan, videologist |
05.25.04 - 7:54 am | #
Thanks Kate. Glad I'm not the only one. Just worried that Ashcroft is trying to take away my one source of sanity.
from the choir |
05.25.04 - 7:58 am | #
My local paper's response to the speech? A resounding "meh."
Chicago Tribune says, in its polite Tribune way, that the speech bears no resemblence to reality. I can't wait to see these guys try to come up with a reason to endorse Bush in the fall. Talk about your idealogical contortions.
choir, I missed the entire speech thread for the same reason. It wasn't showing up, and then the comments wouldn't refresh, and then I couldn't load them at all and the the thread disappeared again. The only way I can get here lately is to do an "Atrios" search on yahoo.
Sovereignty over everything except the occupying foreign power that IS NOT leaving. It will take four years to build an Iraqi army that operate effectively. The Zealots like Al-Sadr will gain power and disrupt the transition which will be weak, half heartedly enforced by a cowed US force, afraid of creating increasing disgust and outrage among the already outraqged and disgusted by escalating hostilities against the dissenters to the transition.
Hence, the violence in Iraq will increase. Bush will attempt to distance himself by blaming the Iraqi leaders and dissenters for their failure while more die on both sides. Shifting blame won't work. Casualties speak volumes.
The Lib Pat |
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05.25.04 - 8:30 am | #
Someone at the ekrry blog said the cam was used in the prsion tortures
There special id fingerprint encryption signals for electronic cams and the signal matches the prsion pics.
IU was right they killed the whistleblower. We're dealing with murderers.
No suprise, they are all old Warren Commission croines. Ford/Nixon/Specter/Bush Sr holdovers...
Mr.Murder |
05.25.04 - 8:32 am | #
Mr Murder, we are fucking dying just short of literally to hear substantiation. If you're not just pulling this out of your ass we sincerely hope you grasp what you're saying.
kei & yuri |
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05.25.04 - 8:36 am | #
Please, we do not exaggerate when he say you really need to either, assuming you don't know how as this is too important to let slip,
1 put the cursor to the little window with the web site's address, hold down the left button and drag it across the address, then release it and leftclick on the hightlit part, selecting "copy" and then "pasting" it hereabouts, or
2 doing the same to the actual text of the comment.
This is incredible, if you can back it up with anything, and did not get it from DU.
kei & yuri |
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05.25.04 - 8:44 am | #
Pathetic. Our great symbol of progress in Iraq is going to be razing Abu Graib and building a new prison. Not a hospital, or a university, or a library, but a "maximum security" prison. Like Iraq was short of those under Saddam. I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
richard james |
05.25.04 - 8:57 am | #
we might have it!
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OK - we may have the smoking gun in the Berg video that proves the Nick Berg was killed by Americans at Abu Ghraib prison. In addition to all the other evidence that I posted on my blog, I have been seeing some messages that if proved to be so answers the question as to who really killed Berg.
There has been a semi-secret government initiative to add digital signatures to various digital consumer products. Photocopiers and digital cameras store an encrypted signature to identify the unit that made the video. This digitial signature is totally inique to each device and is more unique than a fingerprint.
Today new pictures were released of prison torture at Abu Ghraib prison. But not just still pictures. Today video was released showing prisoners being tortured by Americans. Aparently Kodak film experts are Kodak Park in Rochester New York have compared the digital watermarks of the turture video and the beheading video and have determined that one of the cameras used in the Nick Berg beheading is THE SAME CAMERA that took the prison torture video.
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one as Prison abuse was used. Word is spreading around Kodak Park here in Rochester NY. And will break on national News tonite that Kodak film experts have analyzed the Nick Berg video and some of the Abu Grhaib Prison videos comparing them for certain encrypted recording signatures.
Each Video camera leaves a certain signature mark, much like a fingerprint or striation markings on bullets in gun barrels. Same goes for CD-ROM Burners, they leave a trace or type of Cookies on the finished product.
These are tested by computer and not visible by the nekkid eye. Experts here after lunch have concluded that one of the 2 video cameras used in the Nick Berg "beheading" was also used to film US troop abuses of Iraqi detainees.
THIS is BAD news for BushCorp., Military, and CIA. .
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It is dated Friday and its claim that the news would break (which would fit the weekliness pattern) is obviously unsound, unless it was a silent break like the press conference the CIA held which admitted to responsibility for the drug wave and got buried in little items on page NN19.
kei & yuri |
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05.25.04 - 9:09 am | #
Maybe BushieWushie thought that Carlisle was Carlyle, as in Poppy's friends, so they would be friendly to him...
Or maybe he thought he was going to be at the Hotel Carlyle to see Bobby Short's final gig there!
Meridy |
05.25.04 - 9:33 am | #
Damned if Dubya didn't sound just like Charlie Brown's teacher!
Actually, that was "wah wah wah wah wah wah...wah wah wah wah...wah wah wah wah"
and yes, he did. I've said it before and I'll say it again: unfuckingbelievable.
Deanocrat
-Thanks for the correction, Deanocrat
Admiral Komack |
05.25.04 - 10:06 am | #
I think this "same video camera" thing is a hoax. AFAIK, picture files themselves bear no such distinguishing marks, -- hard media may have such marks, but video files are not hard media.
p. lukasiak |
05.25.04 - 10:15 am | #
It has been very amusing hearing you America hating Fascists bloviate, but make no mistake. Your days to poke fun at our Constitution are numbered. You will be sorry. All of you. You will wake up one morning soon to find the real Americans are in charge again, and you will be tarred and feathered. Yuk it up while you can traitors, our wrath is vengeful, certain and patient. But not for long.
minusp |
05.25.04 - 10:28 am | #
this actually might get every last one of them hung.
Tena
Hanged, Tena, hanged. They just think they's hung.
minusp |
05.25.04 - 10:36 am | #
Michael Moore's website is still down this morning.
www.michaelmoore.com
I can't wait to plunk down $10 to see "Fahrenheit 911."
Then I'll plunk down another $10 to see it again!
(Hey, it worked for "The Passion of the Christ".)
RoscoeDuck |
05.25.04 - 10:46 am | #
Last night, my 10-yr-old asked what's the difference between "turning over the country" on June 30, if we still keep all of our 135,000 troops there?"
I couldn't answer.
OT - I was in Rock Springs, WY last week - Halliburton & two other well-servicing companies are locating their regional offices there, and building multi-million $$ office buildings, as they are so sure they will be pumping and thumping the Red Desert & Jonah fields for a long, long, long time to come. Maybe 'till the Rapture.
People are bidding up the prices of the little shack houses there, hours after they hit the market. The classrooms expect to have 30+ kids (don't matter - No Child Will Be Left Behind protect them). No motel rooms available.
your aunt |
05.25.04 - 12:04 pm | #
Hows about a Dean-Scream-like remix using W's Abu-Gah-Rubb gaffs?
Awed Job |
05.25.04 - 12:11 pm | #
In re: respect for the professional military:
The thing that struck me last night about robo-Bush's speech (aside from the fact that he once again lamely claimed that we invaded Iraq to defend America and that Iraq is connected to 9/11) was the manner in which the Secret Service behaved during and after the speech. In a secure military facility, with complete control over the attendees, and with a handpicked audience which was 99% serving military officers (with the rest White House staff and press) the Secret Service acted as if the president was working a rope line in the middle of a busy downtown street. During the speech, two Secret Service agencts actually stood on the stage between him and the audience. At one point I counted six agents within touching distance of the president as he shook hands with officers.
I have been at a number of events where presidents met with large groups of military personnel. I have been at events where presidents met with large groups of civilian personnel. I have never seen this level of protection and scrutiny directed towards US military personnel. It all seems very Soviet-like that the president (or his political handlers and/or security chiefs) is so fearful and uncertain of our own military- every single one of whom present would lay down his or her life to protect this president (or any other president) that they treat them like potential assassins.
It's not merely that he doesn't respect the military, it appears as if he is afraid of them.
solar |
05.25.04 - 12:20 pm | #
So, Bush has already begun speaking in "an unknown language"?
Trouble in Iraq?
SPEAKING IN TONGUES TO THE RESCUE!!!
Extradite the Neocons |
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05.25.04 - 12:23 pm | #
go do this poll at bakersfield.com
(see webpage URL):
He sounds right on target to me. I support him all the way.
24%
His blueprint, like the rest of this war, isn't worth the paper it's printed on. This administration has got us neck-deep in a quagmire and it's clear they have no idea what to do now.
39%
I thought his speech was OK, but I disagreed with some of his points on how to handle the Iraq situation.
3%
I don't care what kind of plan he says he has now. He lied to us about weapons of mass destruction and he should be impeached.
28%
People are so upset about this, I don't think it matters if he gave the Gettysburg Address Monday night. His campaign is sunk.
6%