I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Fuck em all sideways
MS making the list twice! Woooohoooo!!!
So would it be inappropriate to call them "The Lynch Mob"?
Unless, like Cochran and Lott, they're in mortalfear of offending their pool of racist shitbag constituents, I don't get why the WOULDN'T sign onto this resolution.
What assholes they ALL are.
Fuck.
Lying, stinking bigots.
John Cornyn (R-TX) - (202) 224-2934
I faxed a letter expressing my contempt yesterday.
Cochran / Lott / Barbour / Pickering -
The last stand of the 'old south'. They are so gone in this state, and they don't even know it. They may not lose thier seats (although Haley Barbour is NOT going to win re-election as governor), but they are so far removed from the mindset of the average Mississippian as to make themselves vulnerable should the right man for the job come along.
The Big Tent Party.
Fucking disgusting.
gosh, i'd really like to help out on this, but i'm still convinced god wants me to be president some day, which means i must be careful not to offend important republican constituencies, such as the all-important pickup driving, confederate flag waving, beer swilling bubba demographic. once i get to be president, i promise i will do everything i can to educate these yahoos as to why lynching is actually a bad thing.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this. It just makes me choke to think we've made so little progress in race relations in the past 40 years. Or, more correctly, that the North and both coasts have made the progress and the South and some of the Midwest have not.
But they're the Party of Life, aren't they? Oh, and enematize the Honorable Mr. Alexander with a used chimney brush.
I do declare Alexander is being quite disin-glenn-uous over this issue.
Tennessee only makes the list once with Alexander, but Frist gets the honourable mention for covering up for all of the other racist Republicans.
Good thing Glenn doesn't hold either of his Senators responsible for being racists. He has a reputation for lovin' "Diversity" to uphold.
and yet they find Dean offensive!
i hope they're proud of themselves.
The Big Tent party is now officially known as the Big Sheet party.
So, New Hampshire, Wyoming, Texas and Mississippi have the purest Senate delegations. Yet, what insane political in-breeding!?
And it's hard to figure Alabama. I would have guessed Sessions and Shelby oppositewise.
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Has the Congressional Black Caucus said anything about their colleagues in the Senate?
The Big Tent Party.
Fucking disgusting.
Sean
You should see the size of some of those white hoods these Conservative Citizens Councils have to buy.
"The Big Tent party is now officially known as the Big Sheet party."
No coincidence that they require 'king sized.'
Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN) only supports black people once a year
Someone make sure to remind Alexander's staffer that Martin Luther King day falls in January and not in April ...
what is up with NH?
I think it's important to use the Christian Jihad's own words back at them. Keep repeating over and over and over - ad nauseum, just like they do - Frist prevented an "up or down vote" on the issue of lynching. Why did he refuse to give this important issue a fair airing before the full Senate with each and every Senator participating in the debate?
Frist vetoed a fair up or down vote on lynching.
Samuri Sam, Ahem . . . maybe you can talk about Nebraska and Kansas and the rest of the middle, but please do not lump progressive states like Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Minnesota into the mix. I have never understood the flyover mentality that is exhibited regularly; hey, they are welcome to come and visit, we might even be civil - if we can stop the lynchings and stuff happening in Chicago and Detroit and Madison and Minneapolis . . . .
should the right man for the job come along.
wha?
Mike Moore? Gene Taylor?
The usual suspects...
I just called Sen Lamar Alexander's office and asked them if he was pro-lynching, since he's obviously not anti-lynching.
OT, but great news!
The tide is turning!
Hundreds protest the President's visit in Pennsylvania. The chanted, "By the power, by the power, by the power of the people" and "Impeach."
Frist vetoed a fair up or down vote on lynching.
...Ken in Beautiful Bahrain
I like this. Simple and en pointe.
Who do we send it to?
Oh, I understand: Alexander uses a quota system.
i hope they're proud of themselves.
They probably are.
Here in Texas they've made no secret of the fact that they want to paint the democratic party "brown."
It's an open, blatant appeal to racism.
Fuckers.
Given their preference for belief over thought, the Senators also might be called the Sheet for Brains faction.
White is the flimsiest of colors.
Or, more correctly, that the North and both coasts have made the progress and the South and some of the Midwest have not.
Like the L.A. police beating Rodney King within an inch of his life? Or more like Amadou Diallo in NY? Don't kid yourself, my friend. Progress is brutally slow in coming to this nation, no matter where you live. Racism is the shame of our country and the official-unofficial policy of the governing party. Not to bum you out or anything. Things do change, but they change incredibly slowly. Every victory is reason to celebrate, but blindness to the scope of the challenge before us is a problem in itself.
Bo is on fire today...stay away from fat guys in bedsheets, dude 
DWD -- Oh, cry me a river. Try living in the south, and getting smacked with that broad brush every single minute of the day.
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OT, but a reminder to all of us who wouldn't otherwise mind if the federal government just stepped out of the way and let states choose whether or not to allow gay marriage, 9th/10th amendment style .... marriage is a federal issue.
I'm really disappointed in Alexander. He was governor here 20 years ago, and he always seemed like a decent fellow. Y'know, for a Republican.
Guess I was wrong.
DWD,
I grew up in IL and currently live in WI and can tell you from first hand experience that there is a proud tradition of progressive labor and a really disgusting tradition of ass-backwards racism in the rural areas.
And, hey, we aren't flyover states once every 4 years. Hell, last year you could throw a brick in the air and (hopefully) hit Bush in WI.
Jeffraham, just pointing out stupidity: kind of my job, you know?
And my symptathies BTW. It is just so frustrating to have the Northern Tier lumped together with what I consider to be the Midwest. We are really nothing like them. But . . . .
Jeffraham--I agree that the 'red state, blue state' distinction is artificial. I use the terms in quotes on occasion, but just as the Deep South has deliciously flaming liberals mixed into the population, the Left Coast has its share of rightwing crazies. The John Birch Society was born here, after all.
I called Trent Lott's office and they basically gave me the brush-off. The receptionist said she had no information about that, and didn't offer to register my concerns or anything. Quite rude, actually.
I agree that the 'red state, blue state' distinction is artificial.
I would submit that it is a propagandist's construction, and no accident that it has taken hold in "the discourse."
Even Massachusetts, one of the bluest states and home of legalized gay marriage, still has a long way to go in this respect.
DWD: Jeffraham, just pointing out stupidity: kind of my job, you know?
Well, that's the thing about generalizations, generally-speakin', Admiral.
I still bet you can't make gumbo!
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The Republican Fifteen are objectively pro-lynching.
commie atheist: The Republican Fifteen are objectively pro-lynching.
Gaddamned passivist legislators!
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Jeffraham--this bicoastal girl can't do gumbo, but she does make beignets.
I be damned...*Chuck Grassley*?
Y'know, I try not to have too high of expectations for him, but every so often he reaches new lows. They seem to be coming more often of late.
Mike Moore? Gene Taylor?
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I was thinking Mike Moore (although word has it that he wants to be - and will be - governor).
Gene Taylor is in deep ka-ka over his vote to allow for drilling off the coast. He has to defend his seat next year, and if he gets a decent challenger, the coast is going to punish him. If he keeps his seat, he's such a do-nothing that I can't imagine he would run against Cochran or Lott, but maybe he has the ambition.
Unfortunately, beyond Mike Moore, I don't see any other 'right man for the job'. Not yet, anyway.
The Entire Republican Party is objectively pro-lynching!
What wonderful Senators I have. Makes me sooooooo proud to live the the great state of Tennessee. Frist and Alexandar. Who could ask for anything more?
I'm ready to immigrate. Blue-staters help me out here.
Ok, spot check!
Are any of our white women missing?
Sallyh: Jeffraham--this bicoastal girl can't do gumbo, but she does make beignets.
Neither can I, but I felt enough moral outrage (heh) to pretend otherwise!
Beignets, eh? Is that what you wear to keep the hair out of the gumbo?
Y'know, I've always been bicoastal-curious...
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As someone who was repeatedly yelled at and threatened b/c of the Schiavo issue...
I feel so vindicated.
No abuse.
No strangling.
No unnatural bone breaks.
No poisoning.
No vision ("compeltely blind").
No therapy would have fixed it.
No food/water would have saved her (could not eat/drink orally).
wow... after all the harrasment.
Alexander is my senator and sometimes I thnk he's a pretty decent guy and other times (like this, if this is true) I think he could put his entire brain and sense into a thimble.
Maybe he needs to go get his plaid shirt back on so he can feel like a regular person.
but i'm still convinced god wants me to be president some day, which means i must be careful not to offend important republican constituencies, such as the all-important pickup driving, confederate flag waving, beer swilling bubba demographic.
I don't buy it. That demographic couldn't care less about such a meaningless resolution. There's something else going on here.
I guess my regionalism comment was off the mark. Our Senators represent the country as a whole, not just their individual states. When we can only get 84% of our Senators to agree on record that lynching is wrong, then it's an embarrassment to all of us, regardless of where we live.
Oy! Can't we send these Senators to Gitmo or something...
Terri's brain was half the expected size.
Perhaps they will finally let her rest in peace now.
Leo Strauss, biggest wanker of our times.
Bill Frist speaks for the Republican party does he not?
Does that not make the whole Republican party pro-lynching?
The Senate may be within one or two votes of passing a constitutional amendment to ban desecration of the U.S. flag, clearing the way for ratification by the states, a key opponent of the measure said Tuesday.
And the fascism continues to build.....
LuckyDucky: Maybe he needs to go get his plaid shirt back on so he can feel like a regular person.
He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
Of course, who could forget this photo I sent the both of 'em, thanking them for being my Senators. I bet you can even figure out the timeframe...
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This criticism, in my opinion, is are naive and the anger misdirected.
It's not necessarily that Frist, Lott and others are rascist, but that they have to play to their constituency, who might not like an overly PC move like the latest statement (with no discernable legal effect, by the way) about how whites were so evil and bad, etc. etc.
Some senators have to play to their constituencies, or have you forgottne how a democracy actually works?
Try this thought experiment: A resolution on how it was wrong to kill millions of unborn fetuses over the last century. I wonder what the democrats would do (not).
wrt to Lamar! (the exclamation pt comes from an old campaign slogan), it gets even worse. He's quote in today's Knoxville News Sentinel "There is no resolution of apology tht we pass ... that will teach one more child to read, prevent one more case of AIDS, or stop one more violent crime. I prefer to look to correct current injustices rather than look to the past."
At least it's refreshing to be embarrassed by my junior senator rather than my senior one....
I am an ex-Iowan with lots of family still there. Not to overestimate Chuck Grassley, but I suspect him of pigheaded insensitive oblivious stupidity rather than active bigotry. Nevertheless, I expect that smoke is pouring out of my big sister's ears as she contemplates this sorry half of her senatorial representation.
In the Nashville Tennessean today there's an article about how "windmills are so ugly" Lamar just happens to own land in Massachusetts near a proposed windmill site. Of course he denies that there's a link.
This "anti-windmill" stance was always fishy since he has positioned himself so staunchly "anti-air pollution."
So Lamar Alexander's defense is that he's gone past his quota of pro-African American votes for the year?
If he weren't such a simpleton, I'd think this was a dogwhistle for the "affirmative action = quotas" crowd.
The trolls get dumber and dumber with each passing day...
Jeffraham--beignets. They're what's for breakfast. The fact that they're deep fried should appeal to the good ole boy in ya
brown is a scruptious color, chcolate,coffee,maple syrup.........uhm brown sugar much better than white,brown rice too.......ginger bread..should I go on
i hope they're proud of themselves.
They probably are.
Here in Texas they've made no secret of the fact that they want to paint the democratic party "brown."
It's an open, blatant appeal to racism.
Fuckers.
four legs good
ps. so glad you got kitty. I thought he was surely lost.he is lucky!!!
The Senate may be within one or two votes of passing a constitutional amendment to ban desecration of the U.S. flag, clearing the way for ratification by the states, a key opponent of the measure said Tuesday.
And the fascism continues to build.....
wolf-man
I bet this legislation gets more votes than the lynch ban.
Funny how we as Americans are more concerned about desecrating a piece of fabric than desecrating a black man.
4Legs--you got Max?!
(Jumps for joy).
That cat has NO idea how good life will be
JParkey,
If the Democrats believed that the destruction of fetuses is wrong then I would expect them to sign on. If the Democrats belived otherwise I would expect them not to.
If the Republicans believe that lynching blacks and jews is wrong, then I would expect them to sign on. If they don't...
Sallyh: Jeffraham--beignets. They're what's for breakfast. The fact that they're deep fried should appeal to the good ole boy in ya
I believe ya, but I still haven't a clue as to what they is... critter, veggie or starch?
Can ya put milk gravy on 'em?
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Funny how we as Americans are more concerned about desecrating a piece of fabric than desecrating a black man.
Yeah, but funny [puke], not funny ha-ha.
I wrote to Kay Kay Kay Bailey yesterday (called her that, too!), but didn't bother with Cornhole...
did ya notice Thomas pucking Freidman does NOT list his email address at bottom of column like the KRUGSTER!!! what a pussy!!!
does anyone know his email please post it for me....thanx
It's not necessarily that Frist, Lott and others are rascist, but that they have to play to their constituency, who might not like an overly PC move like the latest statement (with no discernable legal effect, by the way) about how whites were so evil and bad, etc. etc.
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This post, in my opinion, is naive. There is no constituency in Mississippi that was paying the least bit of attention to this peice of legislation, except those to whom it was most important - blacks. The rednecks really don't give a shit which way Lott or Cochran vote on anything, let alone an apology on lynching.
MS is getting less and less rednecky, though, and people are starting to notice that our politicians aren't keeping up with the times.
Your post shows a particular lack of knowledge of, as well as an ignorant disdain for, the residents of the Great State of Mississippi. Why don't you come on down here and start talking about how everyone here is a yahoo, pro-lynching, etc. and see how far you get before they have to medivac you out.
Jeffraham--think doughnuts with powdered sugar on them
"The criticism is naive and anger misdirected, & some other irrelevant BS."
Lynching is a failure of the government- whether it be local state or federal- to protect the rights its citizens have to due process of law.
Shorter JParkey -
It's not that the Senator from Mississippi is a racist, it's that his constituency is.
Dipshit.
It's not necessarily that Frist, Lott and others are rascist, but that they have to play to their constituency, who might not like an overly PC move like the latest statement (with no discernable legal effect, by the way) about how whites were so evil and bad, etc. etc.
So much for being the party of principals. By that logic then, if a majority of their constituencies were in favor of burning black churches it would be OK for them to put their hands in their pockets when asked to sign a ban on such? After all, they'd just be playing to their constituencies, right?
Sallyh: Jeffraham--think doughnuts with powdered sugar on them
Check! Now I'm in the neighborhood!
My breakfast prefs run towards the non-sweet items, which is a good thing, I suppose -- I'm heading to Aldi today to load up on $0.49/dz. eggs and $0.45 bread. I've got a load of ground black pepper, so now all I need is some non-TFA margarine, and I'm set for a while...
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JParkey, dumb ass extraordinaire.
Just spoke to Kay Bayley Hutchinson's office. They say she didn't co-sponsor because she was afraid of possible legal ramifications of having to pay reparations. LAME! Even if we did pay reparations to lynching victims, is that such a bad thing?
It's not necessarily that Frist, Lott and others are rascist, but that they have to play to their constituency
Good little whores that they are...
There's something else going on here.
Adonais
In addition to being scuzzy, racist bastards, they may be employing the methods so succesfully (thank you, media!) used by President AWOL and his gang: Never Ever Admit You Have Done Anything Even The Slightest Bit Wrong, Nor Even Appear To Consider That You Or Your Side Might Have.
According to shitbags like Fried Man, this will make you resolute, firm and a man with Big Picture Vision.
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Damn....and here I thought Alexander wasn't all together sucky (when the other of your Senators is Bill Frist, you lower the bar on acceptability, believe me).
Unbelievable..
My goodness!! They all seem to be republicans!! Could this mean something?
==>Just spoke to Kay Bayley Hutchinson's office. They say she didn't co-sponsor because she was afraid of possible legal ramifications of having to pay reparations.
An angel dressed in the official robes of God's celestial klavern appeared to Senators Hatch and Bennett and commanded them to stand up for Utah's Confederate hertitage.
Are any of our white women missing?
BlakNo1
I'm here, so that's one who's not.
Crap..
HaloScan cut off my crptic remark...
Just spoke to Kay Bayley Hutchinson's office. They say she didn't co-sponsor because she was afraid of possible legal ramifications of having to pay reparations
So....even though it passed cough, cough unanimously, would the states of those senators who chose against co-sponsoring be exempt from paying reparations? Is that what KBH is thinking?
Oliver Willis' place links to a poll ranking the popularity of all 100 senators. Lott was one of the highest ranked, sadly.
As for Wyoming, Utah and New Hampshire, well, check out the population breakdown by ethnic group.
I happen to think they are beautiful states, well except for a good portion of their consituency. I am suprised WY & NH elected Dem Governors.
The 2 zero Senators from WY, they seem to be under the radar screen as far as wingnut go. I guess "our sides" version of that is Tim Johnson from SD.
Blah blah blah Robert Byrd blah blah blah where do you stand, Atrios blah blah blah blah Markos Zuniga blah blah blah evil liberals.
Signed,
Toby Putzholder
Since there are only a few thousand victims of lynchings, and even if they had 30 descendants each, it makes about 100,000 people who would share reparations.
Yeah, it was a purely symbolic deal, but symbols matter, right? I mean, you make it this easy to NOT look like a racist fuckhead, and fifteen senators take a pass? Either they truly are racist fuckheads, or believe that they cannot hold their seats without pandering to the racist fuckhead vote. Whichever, they are beneath contempt.
Abu Ghraib was a similar, easy opportunity for the Charles Krauthammers of the world to at least pretend that virulent anti-Arab/Muslim racism was NOT one of their core principles. Those who whiffed on that do not deserve to be taken seriously about anything, ever.
Oh, y desafuere al Generalisimo Bananos Locos.
Any other you blue-state-at-heart people stuck in red TN (home of Frist and Lamar) who want to explore getting out to a blue state?
Try this thought experiment: A resolution on how it was wrong to kill millions of unborn f--
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Atrios,
Do Senators always vote fr what they beleive, even where they know their constituants beleive otherwise?
Maybe it's really beside the point anyway, I dunno.
In Washington, Congressional Republicans are waging yet another battle in their never-ending culture war. This time, the focus is on a constitutional amendment to ban desecration of the American flag. But if these hypocrites really want to honor and protect the symbols of the United States, they shouldn't be talking about Old Glory, but the Confederate Stars and Bars.
So here's a new constitutional proposal, the Old Glory Protection Amendment:
No federal agency, state or local government may display the flag of the Confederate States of America over any building, facility, site or property of any kind. Similarly, no institution receiving funds from the federal, state or local government may display the Confederate Flag. The same prohibitions apply to any flag containing the CSA flag as a design element.
For the full story, see:
"Banning True Flag Desecration"
Susan: Any other you blue-state-at-heart people stuck in red TN (home of Frist and Lamar) who want to explore getting out to a blue state?
No thanks -- I'd rather fight than switch!
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Yeah, obviously if they are not co-sponsoring this, they are pro-lynching. The senators who are apologizing now have as much connection to lynching as they do to the holocoust.
No federal agency, state or local government may display the flag of the Confederate States of America over any building, facility, site or property of any kind. Similarly, no institution receiving funds from the federal, state or local government may display the Confederate Flag. The same prohibitions apply to any flag containing the CSA flag as a design element.
I am not aware of any government building that flies the "flag of the Confederate States of America" whatever that means.
forgive me my friends for throwing my hat into the ring but I don't agree with the take most of you are asserting on this issue. Yes the era of lynching was a horid, disgusting and vile time that lasted far too long and for such a stupid reason as prejudice. However I do not feel the need for today's Congress to formally apologize for the acts of the likes of Strom Thurmond. Any vote/resolution on an apology is an empty gesture in my opinion and does nothing to prevent future injustices.
Further, from a political standpoint, I do not want the Right to be able to one day smear my name for not voting on a resolution like this. If I vote Nay, and my name is published, then that opens me up to the mudslinging from Bu$hco. and the like.
If you want to get behind something, then get behind federal legislation that actually DOES something worthwhile....then attack those who pussy out. Just my thoughts, I know I am not the most informed on this issue though so I reserve further comment and defer to the expertise of truly alert readers.
Dean was correct about the Republicans.
Isn't lynching murder? Isn't murder already illegal?
What are you ninnies so worked up over?
Oy vay!
Even Massachusetts, one of the bluest states and home of legalized gay marriage, still has a long way to go in this respect.
You got that right.. Beantown has a shameful history of institutionalized racism, and sure as shit has a long way to go..
Nine of the fifteen pro-lynchers are from outside the South.
So why do so many of you insist on making this discussion yet another excuse to blame Southerners for everything that's wrong in the world, roll out the tired red/blue GOP talking point for the ten-millionth time, etc?
Some people really need to stop using their heads for buttplugs.
Has the Congressional Black Caucus said anything about their colleagues in the Senate?
Yanagi Bocho
-Why should the CBC say anything?
They know the senators are full of shit.
Now everyone knows too.
"If you want to get behind something, then get behind federal legislation that actually DOES something worthwhile..."
-Gee, too bad the House and Senate can't follow that advice.
Did we have a problem with lynching in America?
It's nice that the dems have seen the error of their ways 30 years after the republicans fixed the problem.
Kind of validating in a way.
Or could this be to avoid a reparations lawsuit?
Lynching is not simply a racially motivated murder. You can be lynched, but live as well. A lynching is a vigilante act of violence perpetrated by a group against a person or persons who have violated the perceived norms of a community. Lynchings, while primarily associated with the South, have happened all over the country. Whites have been lynched as well as blacks, even in the South.
As a liberal born, reared, educated and living in the South, I really really REALLY get pissed when people blame EVERYTHING racial on us. Of the original list of 20 Senators who did not vote for the resoultion, 6 were from Southern states. SIX! That means 16 Southern Senators voted for it. (Given that there 11 states in the Confederacy, 2 from each: 11*2= 22-6=16). I think the fact that 73% of Southern Senators voted for the resolution is progress (although the very idea that the South was, or is, the only racially biased region is ludicricious. Read Biondi's account of the early civil rights struggle in NYC to get an idea)
Sorry to get on a soapbox, but I think it's counterproductive to paint the entire population of a region as a "pool of racist shitbag constituents." I could give you the list of progressive Southern politicians, but there isn't enough room.
OK- done ranting now.
Your posts sound like a whole bunch of ad hominem attacks to me.
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