I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

and that serious leadership is...
...where?


Gravatarvideo of rescues on right now:

http://tinyurl.com/cekgs


GravatarHoly crap, and we've got bush as leader?

Oh so glad he cut short his 4 week friggin vacation to lend some leadership aura, aren't you?


Gravatar and that serious leadership is...
...where?
br | 08.30.05 - 3:17 pm | #


Certainly not coming from the Democrat Party.


GravatarBut then again, he didn't really cut it all that short, and now he really doesn't have to talk to Cindy, coz he's got some hard work to do.


GravatarInteresting side note. Herbert Hoover rose to national prominence for his leadership during the flooding of the mississippi in 1927.


GravatarSerious leadership is not an option.


GravatarMy heart is so very warmed by the fact that our Dear Leader has decided to cut short his Vacation and go back to "work".

I'm sure the folks down in the gulf states still sitting on the roofs of their flooded homes will be encouraged as well.


GravatarAll good fun for Jonah the Whale


GravatarToo bad, as the WaPo reports today, Bush spent the last five years dismantling FEMA. An agency created by Carter and strengthened by Clinton.


GravatarSloth is not aware of which party controls the presidency and both houses of congress.


Gravatarkartrina isn't her real name. (click)


GravatarInteresting side note. Herbert Hoover rose to national prominence for his leadership during the flooding of the mississippi in 1927.


Yeah, and look how well that turned out.


GravatarSloth is barely capable of intellectual functioning.


GravatarStop! Yeah, it would be wrong to point out changes in national funding for relief, or ignoring global warming, or ignoring calls to change the situation in New Orleans. We should just ignore the root causes / exacerbating factors, or the decisions made now that cause more suffering. Just ignore them! It is just partisan bickering!

The Right has taught us all a lesson -- politicize nothing, treat everyone with decency, and be honest, and you can control the enitre government.


GravatarGive the Dems some slack, what're they going to do, pass a resolution in Congress?

Mary Landrieu, now's the time to step it up, that's what we supported you for in your election.


Gravatarvia thom hartmann


GravatarSloth, you can lay off the race-baiting any time now.


Gravatarsigh.. will america wake up to what this admin has wrought with it's senseless policies with regard to the environment and a misguided war. Valuable resources that we can use have gone to a war that was not needed in Iraq. Will congress show the guts to show fiscal disciplen and say no more tax cuts to Bush?
My ex-boss's son will go to Iraq for his third tour of duty. I can only pray for his safe return. As for NOLA and the other places affected.. it's so depressing to see how bad it is. I think I need to step away from this for a bit.


Gravatarmy family in NO is safe-- but starting to look like they will be living with my mom for the next two, three, ? months in New Hampshire.
selfish, but i'm grateful i got to take my girl to see their beautiful house last month.

they are running out of real estate-- ivan took their beach house.

my heart is aching for that city and her people today.


GravatarOh man, George is gonna be so tired, having missed out on those last two days. His crisp, fresh powdered cheese covered decisions will not be up to their usual level.


GravatarWoah! Shouldn't natural disasters fall under some rubric of "homeland security"?

Anyway, what with the strain on the national guards, etc. (was it in CT. that they are protesting the Feds. forcing an Air Guard base to close without getting permission from the Gov? So much for States' Rights, eh?) from Iraq, etc., we certainly are up a certain creek without a paddle.

Don't these people realize that terrorists are not the only threat to the safety of people in our country? And certainly Saddam Hussein wasn't ...

I should think the leader of the party of responsibility will be making a good speach about shared sacrifice soon and then will back it up with a repeal of some tax cuts? I'm not holding my breath, though.


Gravatarthey are running out of real estate-- ivan took their beach house

This will happen more and more as global warming continues apace. More people and less land -- a global recipe for continued war!!


GravatarThis will happen more and more as global warming continues apace. More people and less land -- a global recipe for continued war!!

and Bush's foot on the accelerator.


GravatarFrom CBS New Orleans:

"A top casino executive is calling on the Mississippi Legislature to enact emergency legislation to keep the state's coast gaming industry alive."

"Treasure Bay Casino President and CEO Bernie Burkholder says most of the casino hotels on the coast survived Hurricane Katrina, but several gambling barges suffered extensive damage. He says it could take several years to rebuild."

Meanwhile......


"Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard says there is no plumbing and the sanitary situation is getting nasty. He told WAFB-TV that he is carrying around a bag for his own human waste."

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GravatarSuperdome of Shame
by Jack Duggan

Watching news coverage of the refugees trying to enter the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans for safety from the approaching force-five Hurricane Katrina, I was incredulous how the people attempting to enter the stadium were being treated by the National Guard troops and local police. The people were made to stand for hours outside in the awful Louisiana climate while they were admitted one or two adults at a time so they could be searched "for firearms and alcohol."

The frail elderly, many grasping walkers and others in wheelchairs seemed to be near collapse. They, along with hundreds of small children needing water and rest-room relief, were forced to wait as long as four hours to get to safety. It was often repeated during the video reports that the last time the Superdome was used as a hurricane shelter, a few of the temporary occupants removed some furniture. But this time, they had a large security force on hand, so that was NOT going to happen again, no-siree-bob.

During coverage by Geraldo Rivera Sunday night, FOX NEWS' video cameras zoomed inside the foyer deck of the Superdome and viewers could see a national guard person going through a powder compact from of a woman's purse that was way too small to hold a liquor bottle or a gun. It was obvious that they were looking for drugs in warrantless searches. They instructed all the refugees far back in the seemingly endless lines to have their prescription-pill bottles out when approaching the security checkpoint and also a photo ID to prove that they belonged with the prescription.

There were THOUSANDS of poor, mostly black citizens of the lower Louisiana area, many of them little children and sickly elderly, being forced to stand for hours while the government violated their civil rights with forced searches that were patently unconstitutional, unjust and unreasonable under the dire circumstances. "Don't want to be searched? That's okay...now turn around, go outside and die!" Big choice.

Let's face it. If you're poor in America, you're a "suspect," maybe. If you're poor and black in America, you're a "criminal," definitely. Even if your life is in peril, no excuses. Your rights don't count as long as any badge or weekend warrior in BDU's says they don't.

Heads should roll in Louisiana, for all those whose civil rights were violated on Sunday, August 28, 2005, outside the Louisiana Superdome of Shame.


Gravatar"Interesting side note. Herbert Hoover rose to national prominence for his leadership during the flooding of the mississippi in 1927."


Yeah, and look how well that turned out.
- wÒÓ†

Herbert Hoover was actually a good engineer who was good at managing crises from an engineering point of view. He just wasn't good at managing the bigger picture as a president has to see things. He was not Hamlet, nor was a he meant to be. But he was more than a mere attendent meant to swell the progress for a scene or two < / Elliot >


GravatarGah! Why does all the bad stuff happen when we're letting Junior drive?


GravatarBush is the President of triviality.


GravatarThere is no national guard presence on the streets.

Looting is rampant.

House fires are being set and are spreading via the oil and gasoline slicks caused by flooded cars and gas stations.

The airport is badly damaged.

This is so, so much worse than anyone but the local Baton Rouge channels are reporting.

I-10 east of New Orleans is demolished. Instead of sinking a barge to close the levee, they're dropping fucking sandbags in it.

Disaster.


GravatarThe vacation was 5 weeks but it really wasn't vacation because the Crawford Ranch Without Cattle is really the Western White House although Texas is more South geographically than West and anyway he wasn't on vacation because he was at the Western White House because the Eastern White House was being renovated in order to shoot more episodes of The West Wing, which is where the renovation was taking place but the real show is shot in a really far West White House in Southern California so he surely could have stayed in DC since he was working anyway because this wasn't really a vacation Dear Leader is crispy and decisive all the time and with a major disaster (Cindy Sheenan) and that hurricane out there all in the South or West or near the Mississippi and he's a strong leader who stays the course then of course he's gone back to the Eastern White House.

Which is as far away from Cindy and Katrina as you can get and still speak English.

Which Dear Leader is working on learning to do.

Next question? Oh, yes, Jeff. There you are...


GravatarWho couldn't see this coming a mile away?


GravatarWe have refugees, but our overlords are too greedy to take care of them. Sounds like any number of third world countries.


GravatarBungling on this scale is unprecedented. Funds for emergency relief were diverted into massive tax cuts for 2000 families. I hope they choke on the bones of their victims.


Gravatarthey are running out of real estate-- ivan took their beach house

See, I knew it!! It's all a commie plot, and that Hugo Chavez, he's a commie, we better invade him and secure his oil for us, er, his people!

Wait, he's a socialist isn't he? That's even worse, helping poor people, that's disgusting!!!

Pretty soon we're going to have to share some sacrifices, and we know the gop just loves to share.


GravatarThe beauty of Bush being the closer you look, the uglier he is.

Levee's unfinished because of Iraq folly?


Par for the course:

I love this to:

"SAN DIEGO (Reuters) - President George W. Bush, facing waning support for his Iraq policy, on Tuesday appealed to Americans not to waver because of the rising death toll and said U.S. credibility was at stake."


Who gave his sorry ass permission to put our credibilty at stake?

And what half-ass would put a great nations credibility at stake over a tissue of lies? The Worst President Ever!


Gravatar Gah! Why does all the bad stuff happen when we're letting Junior drive?

This always happens when you have a drunk at the wheel.


GravatarWhy is the Army Corps of Engineers just showing up now?


GravatarFuck the casinos. People are in imminent danger of starvation and disease.


GravatarA MODEST PROPOSAL

Gas is going over $3.00 a gallon anyway. Part of that rise -- a dime, say -- ought to be an increase in the federal excise tax that will be directed specifically toward the victims of this disaster.


GravatarInteresting side note. Herbert Hoover rose to national prominence for his leadership during the flooding of the mississippi in 1927.
Dave the pro


Actually, he gained prominence feeding the refugees of Europe at the end of WWI.


GravatarAndrew: Bush 41 activates 30,000 troops.

Katrina: Bush 43 lounges while states scramble to activate 6000 troops.


GravatarYou should really read what the WaPo is saying about how Bush has destroyed FEMA.


GravatarPresident George W. Bush, facing waning support for his Iraq policy, on Tuesday appealed to Americans not to waver because of the rising death toll and said U.S. credibility was at stake.

We have no credibility any more. Dumbshit ain't figured that one out, nor will he.

And the New Orleans cleanup? Sounds like a job for Halliburton!


GravatarHow about Jonah donating some of the money he got from selling Monica tapes on e-bay?


GravatarI should think the leader of the party of responsibility will be making a good speach about shared sacrifice

Jan. 2009.


GravatarAtrios: sure wish you would give Jonah a spanking.


Gravatarmercury reverend,

couldn't agree more-- that was infuriating to watch.


GravatarWho gave his sorry ass permission to put our credibilty at stake?


That would be the nine great Americans, last time I checked.


Gravatar A MODEST PROPOSAL

Gas is going over $3.00 a gallon anyway. Part of that rise -- a dime, say -- ought to be an increase in the federal excise tax that will be directed specifically toward the victims of this disaster.


I gotta better one. Just leave that shit alone, 'cause I needs me some retiment money when I'm done with this gig. Don't you know Social Securty ain't gonna be shit when I'm older?

Money talks, suckers walk.

Or, in The Big Easy, swim!

Now watch this drive!


GravatarGas is going over $3.00 a gallon anyway. Part of that rise -- a dime, say -- ought to be an increase in the federal excise tax that will be directed specifically toward the victims of this disaster.
JJF | Email | 08.30.05 - 3:30 pm

JJF.. I agree, but you are asking this of a nation at war, where the only sacrifice has been from the people in uniform?
This admin does NOT raise taxes, what are the chances that he will ask for a shared scrifice of the people? Don't hold your breath!


GravatarSloth, you shit the floor again.

Don't come back unless you're gonna clean up after your dumb ass.


GravatarJonah should go down to NO and be made to suffer fire ants and snakes....


GravatarNobody locally is happy that the levees can’t be finished

They're probably not very happy right now either. Bush had to have his shiny lil' war, and if the levees didn't get finished, tough shit.

Afternoon all, by the way.


GravatarThe poor quality of the radio and television reporting is what vexes me (notice I avoided saying "surprises me"). The easiest stories to cover are these massive disaster stories because they lack complexity and only require hustle, humanity and hard work, at least in the early going.

The TV and radio people, in my view, have been lazy, ill-prepared and, at times, seemingly more concerned about the safety of their on-scene people than they are about the real people who live there and will be there after teh satellite trucks have gone home.

They've been soft so long on the hard stuff, they can't even muster the spine to cover the easy stuff well. No imagination, no flair, no depth, just bathos and "look-at-me" reporting.


GravatarMaybe we can declare a war on weather, now?


GravatarThey are going to have to set up massive refugee camps outside of New Orleans and then figure out how to get the people in New Orleans transported out. The unsanitary conditions in the city are already reaching the level of toxicity.


GravatarLiberals are trying to turn this into another 9/11.


GravatarMaybe we can declare a war on weather, now?

Maybe the intelligent design folks can focus their efforts on cloud seeding.


GravatarInstead of sinking a barge to close the levee, they're dropping fucking sandbags in it.

Word is those sandbags weigh 3000 lbs apiece. How you find a bag will hold that much sand, I have no idea.


GravatarOK Mr. Bush, it's time for your closeup.


GravatarWHERE....IS....GEORGE?????????????


GravatarI dont know if anyone has mentioned this, but there's some good stuff streaming live on www.wdsu.com

It's the local NBC affiliate. I was watching it last night and it was incredible. Dont know about now, I'm at work and I cant really access it.


GravatarJust ignore the dismantling of FEMA, the rape of the wetlands, and the underfunding of the Army C.O.E. and the levee projects.
And it's a Good thing that the La. and Ms. Natl. Guard, AND their amphibious equipment is in Iraq right now fighting for Iraqi "Freedoms" and "Democracy", Iran appreciates it.
Bushco just gets better and better.


Gravatar Liberals are trying to turn this into another 9/11.

You mean that it's another in a long line of Bush fuckups?

You damn betcha.


GravatarAnyone heard from TJ?


GravatarLiberals are trying to turn this into another 9/11.
jj



Oh, I'm sure preznit fuckwit will try to do THAT!


GravatarFrom the opinion piece Hecate linked to:

In fact, FEMA employees have been directed not to become involved in disaster preparedness functions, since a new directorate (yet to be established) will have that mission.

FEMA will be survived by state and local emergency management offices, which are confused about how they fit into the national picture. That's because the focus of the national effort remains terrorism, even if the Department of Homeland Security still talks about "all-hazards preparedness." Those of us in the business of dealing with emergencies find ourselves with no national leadership and no mentors. We are being forced to fend for ourselves, making do with the "homeland security" mission. Our "all-hazards" approaches have been decimated by the administration's preoccupation with terrorism.


What the fuck is wrong with these people.


GravatarFrom the opinion piece Hecate linked to:

In fact, FEMA employees have been directed not to become involved in disaster preparedness functions, since a new directorate (yet to be established) will have that mission.

FEMA will be survived by state and local emergency management offices, which are confused about how they fit into the national picture. That's because the focus of the national effort remains terrorism, even if the Department of Homeland Security still talks about "all-hazards preparedness." Those of us in the business of dealing with emergencies find ourselves with no national leadership and no mentors. We are being forced to fend for ourselves, making do with the "homeland security" mission. Our "all-hazards" approaches have been decimated by the administration's preoccupation with terrorism.


What the fuck is wrong with these people.


GravatarThe levee collapse was caused by Clinton's penis.


GravatarCompassionate Conservativism: tax cuts for the rich, handouts for the corporations, Red Cross for the needy.

If someone drained the gasoline from your town's ambulance and firetrucks (FEMA), and you had an emergency, you'd certainly want to just ignore the vandal (president). It would just be partisan.


GravatarCongratulations on finding a Bush-bashing angle. That's one way to get your followers interested.

You people are sick.


GravatarLiberals are trying to turn this into another 9/11.
jj | 08.30.05 - 3:35 pm | #


Ladies and Gentlemen! We have our talking point!


GravatarThe president told us that we needed to fight in Iraq to save lives here at home, and yet -- after moving billions of domestic dollars to the Persian Gulf -- there are bodies floating through the streets of Louisana. What does George W. Bush have to say for himself now?

Unfortunately, the "Cindy Sheehans" of New Orleans are too busy helping their neighbors right now to ask this question.


GravatarIf Wolf Blitzer says "bill-ock-see" one more time, I'm gonna fuckin' scream.

It's "bill-uck-see", you dipshit.

And CNN, I don't want to see pictures of the rich people's houses in Mobile. I want to hear about what our President is doing to bring aid and comfort to the poor blacks his diversion of ACE and flood control money has swamped.


GravatarHurricane Katrina


As of mid-day Monday, August 29, indications were that the eye of the storm had swept northeast and spared New Orleans the brunt of the storm. The city seemed to have escaped most of the catastrophic wind damage that was predicted, though there were reports of "total structural failure" of many buildings and flooding by five to six feet of water on the city's east side. Early in the morning of August 30 the 17th St Canal Levee, on the border of Metairie and New Orleans proper, was reported to have collapsed, flooding most of the city under as much as 25 ft of water. Officials are planning an attempt to seal the breach by dropping 3000-lb sandbags from helicopters. [15]

At least 100,000 people without means of transportation are believed to remain in the city, although some have made their way to "shelters of last resort" including the Superdome. There is concern that if the city floods, it will be nearly impossible to get them out of the shelters, leaving tens of thousands living in miserable condition over the coming days.


GravatarWHERE....IS....GEORGE?????????????
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


He's living out another one of his Village People fantasies:

In the Navy!


GravatarHow you find a bag will hold that much sand, I have no idea.

Jonah's wardrobe?


GravatarWhere to a get a bag that big? Easy. Just empty the BS out of Rush Limbaugh.


GravatarInteresting side note. Herbert Hoover rose to national prominence for his leadership during the flooding of the mississippi in 1927.
Dave the pro

Actually, he gained prominence feeding the refugees of Europe at the end of WWI.
Holden Caulfield


Herbert Hoover was a great humanitarian and man, if he had been President in another time he'd have been great, but he came into office at precisely the wrong time for his talents. There is virtually no humanitarian relief effort in the first half of the 20th century he was not involved in, and with the exception of his term as President, successfully.

Hoover, was also stabbed in the back figuratively by McArthur with regard to the Bonus Marchers, who he never wanted to have confronted by the army.


GravatarIt looks like the Tsunami.


Gravatar"Maybe we can declare a war on weather, now?
B1 Bummer | 08.30.05 - 3:34 pm |"

Nah! This is Bushco, they will declare war on earthquakes.


GravatarAnd hat is still an idiot.


GravatarWhat does George W. Bush have to say for himself now?

"Hey, it ain't rainin' in DC, is it? My French suit just got back from the cleaners."


GravatarThis area, also known as the 9th Ward area of the city, reported 3 pump failures. Mayor Ray Nagin states the Lower 9th Ward of New Orleans on the east side of the city is under five to six feet of rising water, due to the failure of the pumps. New Orleans police had received more than 100 calls about people in the area trapped on their roofs. This area includes St. Bernard Parish where an estimated 40,000 homes are now flooded.


Gravatar"A top casino executive is calling on the Mississippi Legislature to enact emergency legislation to keep the state's coast gaming industry alive."

It's good to see he's got his priorities straight. 'Cause ya know, there's nothing people want to do more right now than to head to Mississippi to gamble.

What an ass. I hope he drowns.


GravatarBush is on the job.

We have turned the corner in New Orleans.


GravatarYou should really read what the WaPo is saying about how Bush has destroyed FEMA.
Hecate


You can bet the local media in LA, MS and AL will be repeating that story.

Will it make an impact nationally?


GravatarHow you find a bag will hold that much sand, I have no idea.

Anyone seen any of Cheney's old suits lately?


GravatarI want to hear about what our President is doing to bring aid and comfort to the poor blacks his diversion of ACE and flood control money has swamped.
f'in librul | Email | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 3:37 pm | #


They won't tell ya so I will.

Not one fucking thing!


GravatarEntire neighborhoods on the south shore of Lake Pontchartrain are flooded.

200 people are stranded on their rooftops in the Ninth Ward, and several bodies have been seen floating in the water [23]. Many people have been reported trapped inside their attics. Rescue efforts will be stepped up on Tuesday.


GravatarThree feet of water are reported by WDSU to be surrounding the Superdome, where the national guard is taking some of the at least 700 people rescued from flooded portions of the city. People are reported to now being allowed outside the superdome, but they are still are unable to leave the area. In the afternoon of August 30, one person jumped out of the Superdome to his death.


GravatarThese photos are astonishing.


GravatarYeah those damn liberals, always asking when the president is going to respond to a national crisis. What nerve. Our King should not be troubled by the complaints of lesser beings.


GravatarThe next Democratic candidate for president needs to get her or his ass down to Alabama or Mississippi or Louisiana now and get film made of them toting sand bags or something. It will be invaluable in the next election when shown on a split screen of Bush playing golf. Here's what Dems do; here's what Republicans do.


GravatarKatrina: Bush 43 lounges while states scramble to activate 6000 troops.

"Fuck 'em. They're not going to vote GOP, anyway."


GravatarI know the timing is wrong, and right now we should do all we can to help these people any way we can, but how many of these families are going to face bankruptcies as a result of this horror?


GravatarI know the timing is wrong, and right now we should do all we can to help these people any way we can, but how many of these families are going to face bankruptcies as a result of this horror?


Gravatar Anyone heard from TJ?

TJ got to B'Ham on Sunday.

I'll assume she's still there. They're not letting anyone back into NOLA.


GravatarThe picture SWR linked to is fucking scary


GravatarI report, you decide.

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GravatarHoover, was also stabbed in the back figuratively by McArthur with regard to the Bonus Marchers, who he never wanted to have confronted by the army.
attaturk


The stabbing in the front, MacArthur reserved for the Bonus Marchers.
How that self-absorbed, monument unto himself at an early age was entrusted to ...

Oh. wait...


GravatarWho couldn't see this coming a mile away?


Word.


He ruins everything he touches.


GravatarIt wasn't nine justices on the USSC that helped Bushboy usurp power in 2000, it was five.

All the usual suspects.


GravatarAnother issue to be considered is there's been a *tremendous* increase in USACE permitting for LNG projects during the Chimp administration, owing to his oily, gassy friends.

Probably diverting resources from civil projects.


GravatarWho couldn't see this coming a mile away?

Well, Scooby-Dooby-Dubya was in Idaho chattin' up his loser base when Katrina was bearing down. Hard to see a storm over those mountains, you know.


GravatarBlasted Haloscam.

Indeed, the advent of the Bush administration in January 2001 signaled the beginning of the end for FEMA. The newly appointed leadership of the agency showed little interest in its work or in the missions pursued by the departed Witt. Then came the Sept. 11 attacks and the creation of the Department of Homeland Security. Soon FEMA was being absorbed into the "homeland security borg."

This year it was announced that FEMA is to "officially" lose the disaster preparedness function that it has had since its creation. The move is a death blow to an agency that was already on life support. In fact, FEMA employees have been directed not to become involved in disaster preparedness functions, since a new directorate (yet to be established) will have that mission.


From WaPo (Hecate's link, above).

Okay "hat" and "Sloth." Tell me how Bush has no responsibility for what's going on in Louisiana, Mississippie, and Alabama, right now, and in days to come.

Remember, New Orleans is not the only town hit by this hurricane. Lots of other towns damaged, and then there are the tornadoes.

FEMA, under Bush, has LOST it's disater response authority. But hey, Louisiana will take care of it, right? They've got enough National Guardsmen to handle things for, what? 2-3 months? Over 1 million refugees in NO alone? Piece o' cake, right?

States rights, right?

C'mon, show me where I'm wrong.


GravatarJonah's wardrobe?
watertiger


Hee.


GravatarI think that's a very good question. Many aren't going to have the time or resources to even bother with bankruptcy. There will be a bail-out like you've never seen somewhere down the line. The question is who will end up with most of the money.


GravatarToo bad the media is all focused on the bad news. They got some new schools going up in Utah and some shiny painted homes in Vermont. I think this hurricane is in its last throes. There's lots of good stuff they could be reporting. Freedom reigns!


GravatarFrom the Progress Report: How NOT to Prepare for Hurricane.


Gravatar Three feet of water are reported by WDSU to be surrounding the Superdome, where the national guard is taking some of the at least 700 people rescued from flooded portions of the city.

This may sound really stupid, but it will make it easier to evacuate people there by boat. The Helicopters are not good at evacuating large numbers of people.


GravatarDo people realize that New Orleans is the largest port in the United States? It's bigger than New York.

What exactly is having it out of commission for months going to do.

Most of the grain that leaves the midwest goes right through New Orleans.


GravatarHerbert Hoover was actually a good engineer who was good at managing crises from an engineering point of view. He just wasn't good at managing the bigger picture as a president has to see things.

Which puts him ahead of BushBoy, who isn't good at anything....


Gravatarhow many of these families are going to face bankruptcies as a result of this horror?


And they won't be able to file before the new more stringent regs go in. Folks living off their credit cards during the emergency will be screwed. Many, many people will be out of work as their businesses are flooded or blown away. Even those who have jobs to go back to, won't be able to get to work for weeks. Which, for many, means they won't get paid for those weeks when they aren't at work. Wow, who could have imagined that voting Republican would be such a bad idea? Back when Clinton had been in office for eight years, it seemed as if nothing could ever go wrong, so why not?


GravatarEd Schulz just blasted the Chimp for not having gone the the Katrina-devastated Gulf yet. "I think Clinton would have been there, how do ya you right wingers like that? I think Bush 41 would have been there."

He's right////


GravatarIs Bush actually playing golf? Seriously? I know that had been on his schedule, but did he really not cancel it? I'm honestly asking, I dont know.


GravatarMy, what an unpleasant time they must be having.


GravatarI don't know anyone in NO or the other affected areas... but I'm really getting to the point where I'd like to strangle me a troll. These are people we're talking about, not fucking chess pieces or some goddamn game of "america's army" you can hit the "reset" button on.


GravatarCNN now talking about gasoline rationing in the south. Hoo-boy.

Remember how the DC hos lacerated Gore over his FEMA trips for misstating that he was with James Lee Witt on one occasion, when he was actually with Witt's deputy?


GravatarKatrina: Bush 43 lounges while states scramble to activate 6000 troops.

"Fuck 'em. They're not going to vote GOP, anyway."
pseudonymous in nc


They won't be anymore.

Bye, bye southern strategy.


GravatarThere will be a bail-out like you've never seen somewhere down the line. The question is who will end up with most of the money.

People who lived in trailers?

No.

People who lived in cheap apartments?

No.

Mmmm . . . anyone with more than $500,000 in assets and WalMart?

DING, DING, DING!


GravatarJonah's wardrobe?
watertiger


Jonah Goldberg's mocking the Superdome is the *exact* equivalent of WBLS playing the rap song mocking the Tsunami victims.

It's odd, isn't it, a privilaged little racist putz like Goldberg mirrors the worst side of rap almost exactly.
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GravatarThe Katrina disaster occurred at a really bad time. It has created a huge human tragedy when we have a depraved moron in the WH.

This same sociopath dismantled FEMA and couldn't care less about the American or any other people (unless they have great wealth).


GravatarWho wants to bet that Big Dog Clinton is going to get down there before Captain Chimpster?

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GravatarThe question is who will end up with most of the money.


I know that the universal answer is supposed to be "42" but I imagine the answer to this question is "Haliburton".


GravatarSo what's the deal with him "cancelling" his vacation to oversee relief operations from DC?

I thought he had all that high-techie stuff in Crawford that allowed him to stay in constant touch with everyone everywhere.

And if he is needed to oversee relief operations, why isn't he doing that TODAY when relief is in dire need?


GravatarShultz is on fire..


GravatarMother Nature created many refugees on our own shores.

The USA created many refugees in Iraq.

Some similarities: no clean water, no sewage, some MREs, inadequate care of the sick and elderly, disrespectful treatment.

See? We treat our the Iraqi destitute the same as we treat our own poor facing disaster.


GravatarGet ready to puke when Bush stands on a pile of debris, bullhorn in hand.


GravatarAuthorities in Gulfport, Mississippi told CNN that 10 feet of water cover downtown streets [33]. An Armed Forces Retirement Facility within two blocks of the coastline was flooded on Monday, forcing patients, staff, and equipment to the upper floors. Additionally, three fire stations in the city reported various degrees of structural damage.

In the city of Biloxi, Mississippi widespread damage was reported as several of the city's attractions were destroyed. Various restaurants have been destroyed in addition to news that several casino barges had been pulled out of the water and onto land [34]. In addition, most of the deaths (as of 6am CDT, the total death toll is 55) occurred in Biloxi. Residents that survived Hurricane Camille state that Katrina was "much worse," with storm surge reportedly reaching further inland than the previous catastrophic storm.


GravatarThe levee collapse was caused by Clinton's penis.
Phyt Shayste"

good one!


GravatarI'll bet that most of these poor people didn't have flood insurance.

They're going to lose everything.


Everything.


GravatarI report, you decide.

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Left Lane | 08.30.05 - 3:42 pm | #


I always figured it was his sinfully lazy reasoning.


GravatarWho wants to bet that Big Dog Clinton is going to get down there before Captain Chimpster?

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Volvo Liberal


I understand Clinton is vacationing in Hawaii right now. 'Twould be something if he cut it short.


GravatarOh, I don't know. CNN's site was full of pictures of black people "looting" a store. They even had one of a skeezy looking dude carrying out beer. Real nice, CNN.


GravatarI think that's a very good question. Many aren't going to have the time or resources to even bother with bankruptcy. There will be a bail-out like you've never seen somewhere down the line.

One of FEMA's functions historically was to provide no and low cost loans to disaster victims -- business and personal.

Wonder if that got axed as well?


GravatarSpeaking of leaders, where the fuck are the Democrats?


Gravatar"Hey, it ain't rainin' in DC, is it? My French suit just got back from the cleaners."
GW Bush | 08.30.05 - 3:38 pm |


Shouldn't that be, freedom suit?


GravatarI understand Clinton is vacationing in Hawaii right now.

Jimmy Carter is the guy to send.


GravatarI understand Clinton is vacationing in Hawaii right now.

Jimmy Carter is the guy to send.


GravatarAnyboody seen the National Guard. They'd be really handy about now.


Gravatar"Who wants to bet that Big Dog Clinton is going to get down there before Captain Chimpster?"


If he did that, all the Repubs would throw a hissy fit because it would be "disrespectful"


GravatarHoover, though not the best president for his times, gained international fame first as a mining engineer then ass the chair of the Committee for the Relief of Belgium beginning in 1915. In 1917, Pres. Wilson appointed Hoover to be the head of the United States Food Administration, which gave him a very national presence. He dismantled the USFA in 1919, and in 1921 became Sect. of Commerce. In 1927 he led the flood relief along the MIssissippi River, and the following year won the Presidency.

He did not respond well to the early days of the Great Depression, but then it did take government spending in World War 2 to bring the US out of that little problem (I LOVE FDR but let's face it, the New Deal--which Ellis Hawley calls "Hooverism in high gear"--didn't do the trick).


GravatarJimmy Carter is the guy to send.



Excellent idea.


Gravatar"Liberals are trying to turn this into another 9/11."

You mean, Bush is going to go stand on a pile of rubble in New Orleans and give a campaign speech through a bullhorn? Or, do you mean he's going to repeatedly invoke Hurricane Katrina for years to come as justification for invading Iraq?


Gravatar Do people realize that New Orleans is the largest port in the United States? It's bigger than New York.

What exactly is having it out of commission for months going to do.


That's what i was saying the other day.

This could be a dagger in the heart of the economy.


Gravatar Do people realize that New Orleans is the largest port in the United States? It's bigger than New York.

What exactly is having it out of commission for months going to do.

Most of the grain that leaves the midwest goes right through New Orleans.
SWR


So, will the nation notice that FEMA ain't up to the task?

What'd you think?


Gravatar"ass the chair "

Man, that typo is pretty warped.


GravatarAnyboody seen the National Guard. They'd be really handy about now.

Seems to me some dumbshit sent them off to Iraq with big red bullseyes painted on their back to play traffic cop.

Must have been Clinton... after all, it couldn't have been Bush; nothing's HIS fault.


GravatarMy roommates mother lives at the west end of Jefferson Parish... We only got to talk to her for about 90 seconds yesterday before the phone cut out. She's fine for the moment, but car and house are completely flooded, no food or water, and we couldn't get her out of there right now if we tried.

This is such a terrible situation all around.

We're going to try to drive out there as soon as they start letting people back in the city, but until we can contact her again, we have no idea which shelter she's staying in, if she made it to a shelter, or what exactly the situation is.

Not only that, but the drive from Tampa to NO is going to be rough if there's no gas to buy, and I-10 is closed west of the FL. state line.


Gravatar Do people realize that New Orleans is the largest port in the United States? It's bigger than New York.


One-quarter of US exports leave the country via New Orleans.

And it is now harvest time.

America's farmers - screwed again.


GravatarSpeaking of leaders, where the fuck are the Democrats?
f'in librul


This is one time where you sit back and let Bush sink into shit all by himself.


GravatarI noticed in the news about a month ago that the state of Florida still has massive piles of debris along roads in the panhandle left from last year's hurricanes. The concern was tha that a hurricane moving across the panhandle would make all the debris into deadly airborn objects.

Why the hell has all the stuff not been removed a year later? If the state of Florida could not afford to remove it why didn't Jeb tell his brother they needed federal funds to do it before the next hurricane season?

Fucking incompetents in that family.


GravatarI dont think I'm so opposed to looting, especially perishable items. They will go bad anyway, so why not put them to good use? Anyway, the people doing the looting are in a unfathomably desparate situation right now, whereas those who've left their stores unguarded are at least evacuated and out of harm's way


GravatarOne thing that they always warn flood victims about is that flood waters often contain hepatitis so you must really decontaminate your house. And this costs money on top of all the other expenses.


GravatarIn fact, FEMA employees have been directed not to become involved in disaster preparedness functions, since a new directorate (yet to be established) will have that mission.

Okay. WaPo wrote an informative and germane article. Just how much suffering will it take before the mainstream media starts connecting the dots on why this disaster is going to take such a tragic toll.

This FEMA story and our Guard and first responders being overseas is a critical lost element. When are the American people going to learn the truth?


Gravatar...it seemed as if nothing could ever go wrong, so why not?
Hecate


My point exactly, Hecate. You were just a whole heck of a lot more eloquent. So the question is- how will this be blamed on Clinton? Are we libs soon to be accused of having a pre-Katrina mentality?


Gravatar...it seemed as if nothing could ever go wrong, so why not?
Hecate


My point exactly, Hecate. You were just a whole heck of a lot more eloquent. So the question is- how will this be blamed on Clinton? Are we libs soon to be accused of having a pre-Katrina mentality?


GravatarNo thinking, feeling human should let President Bush off of the hook for this.

Many of his apologists weakly claim, albeit psychotically, that much of the chaos in Iraq was beyond his control.

The coordinated federal response to this crisis was completely within his control.

Poppy's friends can't help him on this one. I hope the country doesn't as well. Fuck Bush, he's irrelevant. we're on our own. Let's help the victims.


GravatarShaq, I agree.
Let them take all the food and drink they can. The stores have insurance anyway.


GravatarSpeaking of leaders, where the fuck are the Democrats? - f'in librul

They are afraid that if they stand up and take any leadership roles or any initiative, they'll be accused of playing politics with a disaster.

Memo to Congressional Dems: the media is not your friend nor will it ever be nor does it have your interests or your constituents interests at heart ... why should you listen to their petty commentary? If you, a professional politician, are cowed by fear someone will decry you playing politics, why should the American people count on your party and my party being strong enough to keep us safe?

I do hope that the Dems. grow some balls/ovaries ...


Gravatar"Liberals are trying to turn this into another 9/11."


Yeah, right.

Bush will use this as an excuse to attack Iran.

"Turrists" sent the weather, you know.


Gravatar"Jefferson Parish officials say schools could reopen by Dec. 1."

But the schools in Baghdad are open! Sort of.


GravatarAmerica's farmers - screwed again

Except that, since they'll probably put in price supports to prevent a glut, it's Blue State taxpayers, screwed again.


GravatarAtrios: sure wish you would give Jonah a spanking.
Holden Caulfield | Email | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 3:31 pm | #


A kick in the groin would be better.


GravatarAll that stuff in those submerged stores is a total loss, anyway. It just made me mad because it plays into racist ideas and doesn't really represent what's going on down there. It's petty and mean, is what I'm trying to say.


Gravatar "Jefferson Parish officials say schools could reopen by Dec. 1."

But the schools in Baghdad are open! Sort of.


Just look at it this way: car bombing in New Orleans is gonna be nil for the next few months--


GravatarGive it up, Envy. Sloth was a good friend of mine, and you're no Sloth!


GravatarSo, will the nation notice that FEMA ain't up to the task?

What'd you think?
Rmj, Wandering Aengus


The real question is whether the media will point out that FEMA would have been up to the task prior to Jan 200.


America's farmers - screwed again.
Holden Caulfield


Not a chance. If there's one guaranteed federal bailout from this -- it'll be the farmers. Too many congressional careers at stake.


GravatarI thought it was kinda fun that God had the hurricane make a hard right turn just before NO, and blow it right up Haley Barbour's ass. Must be some heavy payback owed the boy. I think Trent Lott's home town had some coming, too.


Gravatar"Turrists" sent the weather, you know.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Well, hurricanes do tend to originate near Africa, which, I am told, is fully of scary nonwhite people...


GravatarHow bad must the conditions be in that dome for someone to jump off the roof. Unimaginable.


Gravatar "Liberals are trying to turn this into another 9/11."

Psychotic. History began and ended on 9/11. Any response to any humanitarian distaster in the world is "9/10 thinking". Treating a disaster right in the middle of red state America is insulting the victims of 9/11. Psychotic. The only way to describe it.


GravatarOT, but the WaPo has a new poll out showing most Americans want Chimpy to meet with Cindy Sheehan again.

I'm wondering if that poll included any questions regarding Dear Leader's job approval rating.


'Cause I could use another pony.


GravatarDemanding a resignation of this entire administration is entirely the sensible thing to do.


GravatarCult of Truth-- "Jefferson Parish officials say schools could reopen by Dec. 1."


Where is that quote from? Link please? My parents think they can come back in a week, so giving them that info might help them finally realize how much of a long road lies ahead of the city. I want to make sure they dont go back to their house until everythings alright.


Gravatarthe New Deal--which Ellis Hawley calls "Hooverism in high gear"--didn't do the trick - mto3

But the New Deal did finally reconstruct the South -- which is why the right hates FDR with a passion: they wanted to keep the South as our own back-yard, third world resource colony.


GravatarAtrios: sure wish you would give Jonah a spanking.
Holden Caulfield | Email | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 3:31 pm | #

A kick in the groin would be better.


A red hot poker up his ass would be even better than that.


GravatarJust look at it this way: car bombing in New Orleans is gonna be nil for the next few months--

Hey, there's an idea - flood Baghdad! THAT'LL take care of those nasty suiciders!

I wouldn't put it past the Chimperor to at least think about it...


GravatarAlabama
An oil rig collided with the Cochrane Bridge in Mobile Bay.
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An oil rig collided with the Cochrane Bridge in Mobile Bay.

In Mobile, Alabama, Mobile Bay spilled into the downtown area to the depth of 2 to 3 feet. An oil platform broke loose of its moorings and slammed into the Cochrane Bridge.

More than 584,000 people are without power in Alabama.

Tornadoes have been reported near Brewton, Alabama.

Two people have died in Alabama so far, both in traffic accidents related to Katrina.


GravatarOne-quarter of US exports leave the country via New Orleans.

And it is now harvest time.

America's farmers - screwed again.
Holden Caulfield | Email | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 3:51 pm | #


Bush will only see it as another opportunity to blame something else for his disasterous economic policies.


Gravatarlooks like louisiana will be rightfully blaming their corrupt democracts for their mess....yet one more reason to hope for an even bigger mess and deaths


Gravatar"Fuck 'em. They're not going to vote GOP, anyway."
pseudonymous in nc

They won't be anymore.

Bye, bye southern strategy.
flory, Contributing Editor |


I was thinking the same thing.


GravatarZuzu, I loved it when Ed said bush needs to get his ASS down there.


GravatarBut the New Deal did finally reconstruct the South

Reminds me of the Mark Twain quite, something like "If you take a starving dog and feed him and make him prosperous, he won't bite you. That is the main difference between a man and a dog."


Gravatarand that serious leadership is...
...where?
br | 08.30.05 - 3:17 pm | #

Certainly not coming from the Democrat Party.
Sloth


and it's coming from preznit fuckwad.

Sloth, you get stupider every day!


GravatarPotential effects further north

Despite being downgraded to a tropical depression, isolated tropical storm force wind gusts (and possibly sustained winds once extratropical) will continue much farther inland, likely through the Ohio Valley and the eastern Great Lakes region [43], even once Katrina becomes extratropical. Tornadoes remain a possibility along the entire track, primarily on the east and southeast sides of the storm center.

In addition, heavy rainfall (3 to 8 inches/75-200mm with local amounts exceeding 10 inches/250mm) could combine with locally saturated ground from summer storms to cause potentially severe to locally catastrophic flooding in the Ohio Valley region by early Wednesday, the eastern Great Lakes region by late Wednesday and eventually even parts of Quebec and western New England by Thursday. Some areas in those regions are under moderate drought conditions [44] and could use the extra rain, however severe flooding is still possible depending on the rainfall amounts. One potential problem spot is Toronto, Ontario which had a major flooding event on August 19 which caused $100 million in damage, and Katrina could cause further problems [45]. In addition, along the western end of the Appalachians, mudslides are also possible due to the mountainous terrain.


GravatarThis is depressing beyond belief.


GravatarMaybe Mexico or even Hugo Chavez could send relief?

Get used to living in the third world, y'all.
.


Gravatar'Cause I could use another pony.
Holden Caulfield


Jeebus -- give a guy a pony and he wants a damn herd!


GravatarFuck you bdg. Fuck you real hard.

unless you're being sarcastic. I hope you're being sarcastic.


GravatarThis will provide the awakening into environmental nightmare these folks have wrought: with standing stagnant water, rotting debris, no fresh food or water and soaring temps and humidity, a crisis of communicable diseases is 3 or 4 days away. Dear Leader has no answers, in fact he's been systematically chipping away at the Gulf Coast's system of storm protection for some time now, four + years and a fatcat energy bill later, we're more dependent than ever onimported petroleum and nothing has been done to secure alternative sources. Another nice job, Chimpy!


GravatarAnd to add to the awfulness, many parts of East New Orleans are built on reclaimed wetlands. The ground is not stable and sometimes a house will sink down, hit the gas lines, and explode. This happened while I was living there about twice a year.


Gravataryet one more reason to hope for an even bigger mess and deaths

Fuck you, you corpse-fucking little shitweasel. It's just too bad it isn't your bloated body floating down one of those streets.


Gravatar This is depressing beyond belief.

It makes one feel so helpless and Angry


GravatarHey Atrios,

Could you set up a site via the Red Cross, or whatever to donate $$ to the victims of Katrina?


GravatarI missed Ed Schultz, what channel was he on?


GravatarCongratulations on finding a Bush-bashing angle. That's one way to get your followers interested.

You people are sick.


What part of "dismantling FEMA" don't you understand, asshat?


Gravatar looks like louisiana will be rightfully blaming their corrupt democracts for their mess....yet one more reason to hope for an even bigger mess and deaths
bdg


There's a real America-hater for you.


GravatarI thought it was kinda fun that God had the hurricane make a hard right turn just before NO, and blow it right up Haley Barbour's ass.

Mother Nature cares not one twit about political parties.


GravatarA red hot poker up his ass would be even better than that.
SWR | 08.30.05 - 3:56 pm | #


Shit. Who died and elected him Edward II?
.


Gravatarhas it ever occurred to you, moonbootica, you great fat pig, that you don't have to quote great swathes of news from CNN and Yahoo. Some of us DO read the news, ya bint.


Gravatarhas it ever occurred to you, moonbootica, you great fat pig, that you don't have to quote great swathes of news from CNN and Yahoo. Some of us DO read the news, ya bint.


GravatarKatrina might be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

The devastation that this hurricane has brought will affect the entire nation.


GravatarBut the New Deal did finally reconstruct the South -- which is why the right hates FDR with a passion: they wanted to keep the South as our own back-yard, third world resource colony.
DAS | Email | 08.30.05 - 3:56 pm | #


absolutely agreed. Many, many good things came from the New Deal and its continuation through the LBJ administration (with a blip under Carter, too).

Just making a single point about the effect of the New Deal on the Great Depression.

God help the folks in New Orleans.


Gravatar30% by Labor Day? Oh boy.

Man, outrage meter went out with the electricity.

This fucking makes me SCREAM!


GravatarJeebus -- give a guy a pony and he wants a damn herd!
flory, Contributing Editor


Give a guy a pony and he rides for a day.

Give him a herd....


Gravatar"Treasure Bay Casino President and CEO Bernie Burkholder says most of the casino hotels on the coast survived Hurricane Katrina, but several gambling barges suffered extensive damage. He says it could take several years to rebuild."


Yep, them repugnicans sure know how to keep priorities straight.


Gravatar Maybe Mexico or even Hugo Chavez could send relief?

Get used to living in the third world, y'all.


I keep remembering the xian groups that went over after the tsunami and used that tragedy as an attempt to convert people. How will Americans react to the first group of Muslims who come over here to provide aid? American is in the third world, we just haven't realized it yet.


GravatarThis will provide the awakening into environmental nightmare these folks have wrought: with standing stagnant water, rotting debris, no fresh food or water and soaring temps and humidity, a crisis of communicable diseases is 3 or 4 days away.

And let's not forget that New Orleans stands the foot of "cancer alley," the stretch of the Mississippi where it's so full of toxins that cancer rates are way above the rest of the nation.

All the pesticides and herbicides used in the Midwest wind up there. And now all that water is in people's homes.


GravatarWhat part of "dismantling FEMA" don't you understand, asshat?
wolf-man | 08.30.05 - 3:59 pm | #


The accountability part, apparently. What Bush actually does, he cannot be blamed for.

What Bush had no part in, he may take infinite credit.

See? Welcome to the god damned trailer park!
.


Gravatarhas it ever occurred to you, moonbootica, you great fat pig, that you don't have to quote great swathes of news from CNN and Yahoo. Some of us DO read the news, ya bint.
bdg


Another troll with great respect for women!


GravatarI missed Ed Schultz, what channel was he on?
fourlegsgood

4legsgood, go here, you can "stream"


http://www.bostonsprogressivetal...k.com/ main.html


Gravatar 30% by Labor Day? Oh boy.

I called 28% by the end of the week for a pony...just saying


Gravatarbdg-

Wal-Mart is hiring greeters in Louisiana --- don't forget your hat.


GravatarAnd isn't bdg the cunt that joked yesterday about the floods, etc. making fewer Democrats in LA?


GravatarThis is one time where you sit back and let Bush sink into shit all by himself.


GravatarTo be fair to W, the erosion of wetlands is due primarily to the diversion of the Miss river from its natural, coastland-replenishing route and isnt his fault. But apparently the Army Corps of Engineer learned their lesson and resolved to make all their future projects more ecofriendly, especially the new levee system set to be completed in 2018 I believe. A little too late, it turns out.


GravatarAll the pesticides and herbicides used in the Midwest wind up there. And now all that water is in people's homes.
rorschach | Email | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 4:01 pm | #


OK, now track govt. subsidies to petrochemical concerns reconstituted after 2000 and add in the grandfathered polluters among the refining interests in the gulf ...
.


GravatarLargest port in the nation.

I-10 east of the city massively damaged. No way east from New Orleans into Mississippi or Alabama, except through I-20.

CNN is just showing the pictures of the twin span from New Orleans to Slidell...about 30% of the Interstate is missing...this is a five-mile long stretch of elevated concrete Interstate along one of the most heaily trafficked corridors in the nation.

I-10 east of New Orleans will not be usable for several years, from the looks of ut.

Trucking massively impacted.

Massive national emergency.

WHERE THE FUCK IS BUSH? This is a NATIONAL emergency.


Gravatarwhy oh why is bdg obessed with me?

its really quite sick of him.....

Why am I singled out? the troll has nothing to contribute except insulting me and my family.

a seriously scoiopathic troll...


GravatarWal-Mart is hiring greeters in Louisiana --- don't forget your hat.

He's underqualified to work at Wal-Mart, unless they're hiring outside the human race these days.


Gravatarbdg:
Moonbootica and her posts are welcome here.
Your are not.


GravatarWhat Holden said - fucking hateful goddamned right wingers - just full of hatefulness for everyone who doesn't suck Bush's dick.

Fuck you wingers and trolls, each and every one.

Just fuck you.


Gravatarfourlegsgood,
We're listening to Ed Schultz on the radio, his program runs from noon to 3 Pacific time, maybe you can stream him at www.wegoted.com.


Gravatarlooks like louisiana will be rightfully blaming their corrupt democracts for their mess....

You don't have a clue about the country you live in do you?

This is a national disaster, not a local one. This will affect every farmer in the midwest. This is the biggest port in America.

(ps If you want to know why -- since the right seems so confused about why they built New Orleans where they built it--it's Thomas Jefferson's fault. Hint. Google Louisiana Purchase.)

There's no way local Democrats or Republicans or anybody else can respond to this. This is the equivalent of mobilizing for war.

And the War Preznit better be up to it.


GravatarAnd isn't bdg the cunt that joked yesterday about the floods, etc. making fewer Democrats in LA?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


Please ignore this ignorant sack of shit...


GravatarThis is one time where you sit back and let Bush sink into shit all by himself.

OK, Hell-oscan ate the rest of my post. I was saying, I'm sorry, Terry C, but this is the time you do everything you can to help people in need, regardless of what Dumbya does or (more likely) doesn't do. Let's keep our priorities straight.


GravatarHow will Americans react to the first group of Muslims who come over here to provide aid?

Nah.

More likely to be flying saucer cults like the Nation of Islam and the Mormons.
.


GravatarI thought it was kinda fun that God had the hurricane make a hard right turn just before NO, and blow it right up Haley Barbour's ass.


Wasn't Haley Barbour once head of the RNC?


GravatarAn official from St. Bernard parish was just on and BLASTED the government - then Wolf cut him off to go to a CNN reporter who admits that he has nothing new to add.


GravatarI guess Shrub has hit the quinella.


GravatarTrucking massively impacted.

Massive national emergency.

WHERE THE FUCK IS BUSH? This is a NATIONAL emergency.


"California, here I come!"


Gravatar"Mr. President, we need to finish the levee building, it's important."

W: "Heh, boy I like that levee song. That's that Zeppelin group right. We used to, used to drive around and play that real loud."

"No, no, Mr. President, we're talking about real levees that will save people's lives."

W:"Boy, yeah, that was fun, a couple Pabsts, hot summer night, hitting on teeagers, blasting some Zeppelin. Bunannannanana nananana bunananaa!"

"Mr. Maestri ? Yes, sorry, the President has decided we have other priorities."


Gravatar*sociopathic

I am getting tired of these sociopaths who run the US and British Governments and troll these boards.

they need to be locked in a space shuttle and sent one a one way course to the sun...


Gravatarlooks like louisiana will be rightfully blaming their corrupt democracts for their mess - bdg

The frightening thing is people will blame local, corrupt Democrats if any are about.

There is a double standard which is not entirely unfair. Remember, Democrats claim that government can do some good -- so when we have the reins of government, we actually have to do good to prove our point. Since Republicans believe government is at best a necessary evil and that political office is about mere raw power, they don't have to do a whit of good while in office ... indeed, if they do poorly, they prove their point (cf. P.J. O'Rourke).

What I wonder is how come U Chicago economists and the like don't ever seem to mention this perverse incentive for Republicans to be bad at governance.


Gravatarlooks like louisiana will be rightfully blaming their corrupt democracts for their mess

Whereas, in Mississippi ...
.


GravatarThe accountability part, apparently. What Bush actually does, he cannot be blamed for.

Par for course for the wingnuts...


GravatarWHERE THE FUCK IS BUSH? This is a NATIONAL emergency.
f'in librul


Someone needs to check the Crawford library.

See if the copies of My Pet Goat are checked out.


Gravatar"Treasure Bay Casino President and CEO Bernie Burkholder says most of the casino hotels on the coast survived Hurricane Katrina, but several gambling barges suffered extensive damage. He says it could take several years to rebuild."


Yep, them repugnicans sure know how to keep priorities straight.
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


AP- President Bush appoints Jack Abramoff to head a task force to immediately rejuvenate the Katrina-ravaged gaming industry.


GravatarThere's no way local Democrats or Republicans or anybody else can respond to this. This is the equivalent of mobilizing for war.

And the War Preznit better be up to it.



Which is why, in a word, we are fucked.


Gravatar why oh why is bdg obessed with me?


moonbotica,

It's nothing personal. Trolls hate smart, articulate women. You're a smart, articulate woman. Res ipsa.


GravatarTo be fair to W, the erosion of wetlands is due primarily to the diversion of the Miss river from its natural, coastland-replenishing route and isnt his fault.

From what I heard on the news this morning, the rate at which wetlands have been lost under this administration is quite a bit higher than under Clinton or the first Bush.

So, there's some blame there, too.


GravatarLet's keep our priorities straight.
MeLoseBrain?


Don't lecture me!


GravatarWhat part of "dismantling FEMA" don't you understand, asshat?
wolf-man | 08.30.05 - 3:59 pm | #


Um, if he's like most Americans, all of it.


Gravatara seriously scoiopathic troll...
Moonbootica | Email | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 4:03 pm | #


Maybe he's attracted by Justinian's nimbus of cheetos in your grav.


GravatarWhen the Food Riots start I hope bdg is around for them. I'm sure there's some good eatin' on him from all those Cheetos and pork rinds.


Gravatarbdg - eat shit and die, you motherfucker.

You and your entire family can eat shit and die.


Gravatarhey terry , you look like a bit of a hefty bitch yourself...
bdg


See post above yours, losers!


GravatarShorter bdg:

I hopes all them blackies die in the swampy water, and blame someone other than Bush.


GravatarWe have emailed our Congressperson to propose bankruptcy relief for the Katrina survivors. We will also email the better of our Senators (all are D.) Perhaps others should do likewise.


GravatarI wonder if Mississippians are going to blame their corrupt Republican leaders.


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GravatarSorry for the repeat, but I'm hoping Atrios sees this....

Atrios, could you set up a site where Eschatonians can donate tp the victims of Katrina. Yes, we can do it via the Red Cross with or without an Atrios site, but it would be nice to do it as a concerted effort.


GravatarAnd isn't bdg the cunt that joked yesterday about the floods, etc. making fewer Democrats in LA?
Terry C, Feminazi Moonbat


The only thing that comes to mind to me are those fuckheads who wrote the rap song making fun of the Tsnumai victims.

Same mentality. I'm a hard man and I'm stupid.


Gravatarwhy oh why is bdg obessed with me?


moonbotica,

It's nothing personal. Trolls hate smart, articulate women. You're a smart, articulate woman. Res ipsa.
Hecate


He just trashed me, too.

I think he's Gordo under yet another name!


GravatarNow Bush will start talking about the War in Iraq to distract us from the disaster at home.

What irony


GravatarWHERE THE FUCK IS BUSH? This is a NATIONAL emergency.

Tearing through the Depends.


Gravatarre: transportation away from NO--

With the Cochran Bridge north of Mobile out and the Mobile Bay sections of I-10 and US 98 underwater, even if you COULD get out of New Orleans, there's no good way to get east of Mobile.

I suspect this will suck big time for a long time.


GravatarIt's time for Wubya to grow up. No more running around starting wars and taking over shitty middle-eastern countries. No more grandiose schemes to subsidize the rich by taxing the shit out of everybody else. Time to be a president. One would think.


GravatarI think he's Gordo under yet another name!

Really?

Yo - Gordo,

The new Wonderbras are out - better start savin' up!


Gravatarmy gravatar of Justinian needs to send the spirit of Belisarius to bdg's hovel...


GravatarWe have emailed our Congressperson to propose bankruptcy relief for the Katrina survivors. We will also email the better of our Senators (all are D.) Perhaps others should do likewise.
LucyandByron



Thank you L&B, an excellent idea. And wouldn't thsi be a good time to erase all those humongous tax cuts for the super rich. The recouped $$ could help out Katrina's victims


Gravatarhey terry callen, you look like a bit of a hefty bitch yourself...
bdg | Email | 08.30.05 - 4:04 pm | #


Can we ban this asshole now?


GravatarMoonbootica - Hecate is right. The trolls have obsessed over the women commenting here for the entire 3 years I've been commenting here. I've been stalked and harassed, pie has been constantly insulted, Vicki has been - the women are just their targets. It isn't you, specifically.


GravatarAnd this is just from ONE cat-4 hurricane. With ocean temps going up due to global warming, the South East is toast.

Welcome to the brave new world of global warming......


GravatarMaybe I can put it in a way that even our 9/11 right wing trolls can understand.

This is the dirty bomb you're all afraid of. It's not going to kill 3000 people like 9/11 or 100,000 like the Tsunami but it's going to take out the economy of a major city for months.

Pretend Saddam did it if it helps you understand. Seriously.


GravatarThis is a take charge moment.
And once again the fucker is hiding.


Gravatarlooks like louisiana will be rightfully blaming their corrupt democracts for their mess - bdg



Now, THAT statement is pathetic!


GravatarWHERE THE FUCK IS BUSH?

Here.


GravatarWasn't Haley Barbour once head of the RNC?


Yup. And fine clump of pond scum he is.


GravatarWasn't Haley Barbour once head of the RNC?


Yup. And fine clump of pond scum he is.


GravatarLater, Batties. I need to go downtown.


GravatarTena fair point.

its amazing how ugly the political climate has become since Bush took office...

its like all the hatred of the wingers has bubbled to the surface....


Gravatar This is a take charge moment.
And once again the fucker is hiding.


Hey, the fuckin' town is wrecked, okay? It's not like it's gonna get any better by tomorrow, so chill.

Besides, you guys know how hard it is gettin' back to work after a vacation. If you can afford to take one, that is! Ha,hahaha. Man, I just crack my shit up.

Anyway, give me a couple of . . . weeks and I'll probably do something about this.


Gravatarblanco news conference on now... "the magnitude of the problem is untenable"

landriue, blanco just got back from helicopter tour.


GravatarMeanwhile over at Daily Kos the lead post is about Asian sex-robots.

Pitiful.


Gravatarhey terry, you look like a bit of a hefty bitch yourself...
bdg | Email | 08.30.05 - 4:04 pm | #

Can we ban this asshole now?
Carpbasman


They just can't stand women who won't toe the Bushian line, can they?


Gravatar WHERE THE FUCK IS BUSH?

Here.
watertiger


Again, with the white pajamas on that bitch.


Gravatarlandriue saying that people's lives are still at risk at this moment


GravatarThey just can't stand women who won't toe the Bushian line, can they?

They can't stand women, period.


Gravatarlandriue, blanco just got back from helicopter tour.
smarty jones


They need to blast the Chimperor, playing golf in San Diego as we speak.


GravatarTena fair point.

its amazing how ugly the political climate has become since Bush took office...

its like all the hatred of the wingers has bubbled to the surface....
Moonbootica


They've become emboldened by the fact that someone as stupid as they are is "in charge."


GravatarSomeone on Ed Schultz just mentioned that the Chimp flew back in his pj's in the middle of the night to sign the Terry Schiavo law, but he's dragging his ass here.


Gravatarlet him play golf. best he stays far away. everything he touches turns to shit.


GravatarHolden...Is he really playing golf right NOW????


GravatarHolden...Is he really playing golf right NOW????


GravatarI just don't get why all these wingers have so much hate when their evil ones are controlling everything. And to think they originally sold their bullshit to the "reagan dems" with their fiction of the "victim society." How in the FUCK do they now think THEY are the victims and why don't they despise themselves for it? (like they did the "welfare moms", etc. back in the '80's).


GravatarFrom the Parish President:

"IF YOU HAVE EVACUATED ST.

"TAMMANY PARISH, DO NOT RETURN UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. THE PARISH IS CLOSED."

"Stay at home."

"Do not enter the streets."

"A curfew is in place from 9:00 PM to 7:00 AM."

"Violators are subject to arrest."


GravatarThey can't stand women, period.
Big Daddy Mars


I imagine the feeling is mutual.


GravatarThis is a take charge moment.
And once again the fucker is hiding.
Max Planck | Email | 08.30.05 - 4:12 pm | #


I'm sure Karen and Karl are doing everything in their power to quickly train the Chimp to sputter out their choice spin points.


GravatarHolden,

Is he really playing golf? Please tell me that's true...


GravatarThey need to blast the Chimperor, playing golf in San Diego as we speak.
Holden Caulfield


Where's a good strong bolt of lightning when you need one?


GravatarTerry C sez:

They just can't stand women who won't toe the Bushian line, can they?

Drop everything after "women" and you're spot on.


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Gravatarthe trolls are frightened by vaginas.


GravatarThey can't stand women, period.
Big Daddy Mars


A feeling that is, I would guess, completely mutual.


Gravatar Holden...Is he really playing golf right NOW????
scout prime


I understood he was planning to, and his little speech before the Navy crowd is over.

Mebbe he cancelled it out of conscience.

[/joke]


GravatarOT: Militants used sham marriages to get U.S. papers

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - At least 17 Arab men convicted or linked to terrorism obtained U.S. citizenship or permanent residency by marrying American women in the past 15 years, according to a report on Tuesday that urged better enforcement of immigration laws.

The report by Janice Kephart, a former counsel to the commission that investigated the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, said at least nine of the marriages were sham, designed solely to allow the men to "embed themselves" and operate freely in the United States.

One individual, Khalid Abu Al-Dahab, married three American women in quick succession before he was finally able to acquire legal permanent residency.


GravatarDammit, Holden!


GravatarWHERE THE FUCK IS BUSH?

Here.
watertiger

damn, that is a powerful post.


Gravatar"Time to be a president. One would think."
--B1 Bummer


Sorry, he doesn't think, he doesn't have a clue. And that's pathetic, but true. So don't hold your breath.


GravatarI'm no fan of Tony Blair but he flew back to London the same day as the terrorist attack.

Bush needs to do the same here, if only for the symbolic value of it. And yes some liberals would accuse him of grandstanding. So what. It's what the president should do.


GravatarCan Shrub show his dripping disdain for those who voted for him any more clearly if he tried?


Gravatarbdg--

You are more than just sex, and I know that you are smart enough to realize this.

Deep inside, you know that it’s true. One day you will look back at the trolling time in your life and be ashamed of it.

Have you ever considered what you will do when you get older, and when you aren’t sexually attractive anymore?


GravatarWHERE THE FUCK IS BUSH?


In San Diego, hiding from Governator Schwartzengrubber


GravatarOn KOS:

On FOX, I shit you not, the anchor said as she watched a family being rescued from the roof of their home: "No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help." She then REPEATED this assertion no less than 10 minutes later as she watched the footage with some commentator.

by lost on Tue Aug 30th, 2005 at 10:47:11 PST

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GravatarSomeone on Ed Schultz just mentioned that the Chimp flew back in his pj's in the middle of the night to sign the Terry Schiavo law, but he's dragging his ass here.
ZuZu's Petals

excellent point.


Gravatar "Time to be a president. One would think."

Maybe he thinks the job is purely ceremonial?


Gravatarlet him play golf. best he stays far away. everything he touches turns to shit.

He really and truly is a walking Kiss of Death.

It's quite remarkable, in a weird, abstract way.


GravatarBush is on his hobby horse galloping round the garden.....


Gravatarsome liberals would accuse him of grandstanding. So what. It's what the president should do.
SWR


Word.


GravatarIf there was a brain dead woman on life support in NO, maybe he'd get his Chimp ass there.


Gravatar"Jefferson Parish officials say schools could reopen by Dec. 1."


I don't think they can just pump out the water and re-open the schools. The flood water would have been fouled with oil, sewage, etc. It would have to be treated like a hazmat site.


Gravatar the trolls are frightened by vaginas.


Not completely true. The latex ones don't bother them that much—

But it’s getting the doll to do the shopping that’s puzzling the hell outta them.


GravatarCan't confirm the golfing...

MR. McCLELLAN: Let me update you on tomorrow -- I was double-checking the schedule for tomorrow. When we get there to San Diego, at the Naval Air Station, the President will make the remarks, and that will be the first thing on our stop. Then he's going to participate in an interview with Armed Services Radio and Television. And then he will visit with health care providers at the medical center at the Naval Station. And then he will visit with some wounded military patients that are at the medical center. And then we'll depart after that.



Gravatarthe trolls are frightened by vaginas.
Atrios | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 4:17 pm | #


What was it yesterday about "vagina dentata" scanning the same as "hakuna matata"

I had that damn song in my head all day, but with the new, improved lyrics.

*humming . . .


d'OH!


GravatarSomeone should tell him about the fetuses dying, all the innocent little fetuses


GravatarShaquille:

The quote is from the web site of WLTV, CBS affiliate in New Orleans, their special section on all things Katrina.

Link is:

http://www.wwltv.com/local/ stori...OG.ac3fcea.html

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GravatarLiberal men rock.

Trolls suck.


GravatarMoonbootica sez:

Bush is on his hobby horse galloping round the garden.....

He's as afraid of hobby horses as real horses.


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GravatarSomeone should tell him about the fetuses dying, all the innocent little fetuses
Left Lane


Either that or tell him that there's another braindead person in a hospice about to have their tube removed.


GravatarDidn't a poor hurricane response play large in Daddy Bush's downfall???


GravatarDidn't a poor hurricane response play large in Daddy Bush's downfall???


Gravatarsome liberals would accuse him of grandstanding. So what. It's what the president should do.

Yeah, but his window done shut close on his ass last night. He can joyride in AF1 to sign the "Save The Braindead" law, but he can't get his ass to DC, knowing the shit is going to hit the fan in the morning?

Fuck him. He's fucking pond scum.


GravatarI'm no fan of Tony Blair but he flew back to London the same day as the terrorist attack.

Bush needs to do the same here, if only for the symbolic value of it.


Don't get me started on how he didn't fly back to DC on 9/11....


Gravatar
On FOX, I shit you not, the anchor said as she watched a family being rescued from the roof of their home: "No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."


Yes, I'm SO sure that's what's rattling around in that squirrel cage on top of his head.


GravatarBush is on his hobby horse galloping round the garden.....


Just keep him away from the ponies.


GravatarGov. Blanco looks completely devastated.


GravatarBush is on his hobby horse galloping round the garden.....


And he's going to try to milk it right after he dismounts.


Gravatar"Time to be a president. One would think."

Maybe he thinks the job is purely ceremonial?
Falstaff
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Well for him it IS merely ceremonial - Rove and Cheney run the country.


GravatarOT: Foreign troops in north Afghanistan say "drug wars" the biggest threat

Afghanistanmountain valley, the enemy is all around -- fields of opium poppy cover much of the parched earth.

A recent spike in attacks has made life more dangerous for the international soldiers here as the poor and war-ravaged country heads for September 18 parliamentary elections, the first in more than three decades.

But while Islamic insurgents pose a threat to the contingent, the biggest danger, soldiers here say, comes from warlords who control the lucrative opium trade that floods the streets of far-away Europe with heroin.


Gravatar "Time to be a president. One would think."
--B1 Bummer


He hasn't been president since he met Dick Cheney. He's a meat puppet for all the big guys.


Gravatarscout prime asks:

Didn't a poor hurricane response play large in Daddy Bush's downfall???

Yep. Hurricane Andrew if memory serves.


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GravatarAlright, I'm outta here.

peace.


GravatarOk, something went wrong when I cut and pasted. Here it is again.

http://www.wwltv.com/local/ stori...OG.ac3fcea.html


GravatarYes, I'm SO sure that's what's rattling around in that squirrel cage on top of his head.
Pere Ubu | Email | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 4:23 pm | #


When he shakes his head, you can hear a little jingle bell.


GravatarFrom FreeRepublic:

One thing that has been repeatedly asked on these threads that I think is on-topic; "Why did 'they' build a city in a spot 8 feet below sea level?"


Do these people have any idea how old New Orleans is? Hint. It's older than the Democratic Party. It's older than liberalism.


GravatarRove and Cheney run the country.
Texn Embsd by Bush


BADLY!


Gravatar"No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."

Like the time he was watching TV and saw the first plane hit the WTC and was thinking about what a poor pilot that was? Pure fiction.


Gravatarthe trolls are frightened by vaginas.

Then rorschach's gravatar must give them nightmares.


GravatarFor anyone who missed it, the online comic strip Queen of Wands presents Vagina Dentata .


Gravatar Didn't a poor hurricane response play large in Daddy Bush's downfall???
scout prime


Andrew. GHWB flew down right away, but FEMA's response was viewed as inadequate.


GravatarHave you ever considered what you will do when you get older, and when you aren’t sexually attractive anymore?

Wait - is he sexually attractive now?


GravatarDidn't a poor hurricane response play large in Daddy Bush's downfall???

Andrew. And he caught shit for not knowing what a gallon of milk cost. These fuckers haven't known that for 50 years.

They do know, however, that it is important to threaten to shoot people trying to obtain it for their children.


GravatarFrom FreeRepublic:

One thing that has been repeatedly asked on these threads that I think is on-topic; "Why did 'they' build a city in a spot 8 feet below sea level?"


Do these people have any idea how old New Orleans is? Hint. It's older than the Democratic Party. It's older than liberalism.
SWR


Are you kidding?

That would mean they'd have to read something BESIDES Ann Coulter's books.


GravatarI've looked in a couple of times today and have't been able to bring myself to comment at all.


This is beyond appalling. What this country has become.


GravatarYet another failure in a time of crisis for Bush.

I'm guessing some red states like Mississippi and Alabama may not be so monolithically Republican in the next election, given Bush's apparent lack of engagement in this crisis.

I remember when we had a real leader in the White House...


Gravatar'One thing that has been repeatedly asked on these threads that I think is on-topic; "Why did 'they' build a city in a spot 8 feet below sea level?"

Man, Freepers are even dumber than I thought (and that's saying something).


GravatarWhat does bdg stand for (apparently, I missed it)?

Big dumb galoot? Big dopey goofus? Bad dorky grunt? Breathless, dickless, gonadless?


GravatarI remember when we had a real leader in the White House...


Clinton, being a real Southerner (as opposed to a Connecticut preppy playing at one), would have understand exactly what it means to close New Orleans.


GravatarOne thing that has been repeatedly asked on these threads that I think is on-topic; "Why did 'they' build a city in a spot 8 feet below sea level?"

sigh. The jingle bells are deafening over there in Freeperland.


Gravatarany bets the Freepers will blame 'libruls' for building New Orleans 8 feet below sea level?


GravatarBush was golfing yesterday, while shilling for his Big Pharma benefits plan.

He's been playing Commander-in-Chief in California today, making sure he had an on-message backdrop (sailors, aircraft carrier) while comparing Iraq to WW2.


GravatarOn FOX, I shit you not, the anchor said as she watched a family being rescued from the roof of their home: "No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."



What did you expect from the Fascist Nonsense Channel, the propaganda wing of the GOP?

I've got that station blocked from every TV set in my house because I don't even want to see it while channel-surfing!


GravatarDo these people have any idea how old New Orleans is?

Yeah, it's older than the country, in fact. Do they also not realize that it's the busiest commerial seaport in the United States? There's an awful lot of liquid natural gas and crude oil that moves through New Orleans.


GravatarClinton, being a real Southerner (as opposed to a Connecticut preppy playing at one), would have understand exactly what it means to close New Orleans.
SWR


Then again, Bill doesn't have the attention span of a hyperactive toddler.


Gravatar"It's older than the Democratic Party. It's older than liberalism."

It's even older than Jacques Chirac!

In fact, it's even older than Napoleon!

Blame the French if you must... but please be sure to blame the monarchy. All those Louie guys with the X's and V's after their names. They're the ones to blame.


Gravatar"No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."

Actually, he was busy in San Diego, speaking at a photo-op concerning a war that ended 60 years ago and shilling for support for a war that is ongoing. Death and destruction are for the little people.


Gravatar"Interesting side note. Herbert Hoover rose to national prominence for his leadership during the flooding of the mississippi in 1927."


Astounding coincidences between Herbert Hoover and GW. Bush:

HH: A teetotaler, in China he encountered the Boxer Rebellion, yet bravely went even farther

GW: Drunk and rebellious, he sparred with his father

HH: A good student, his family was happy he received an Engineering Degree

GW: His family was forced to engineer a legacy

HH: Early in his life he was noted for helping the poor - himself

GW: All his life he has been noted for being poor at helping anyone but himself

HH: Deeply religious, he often beseeched, “O’ lord up in heaven”

GW: Claimed religion too...But sadly, was later impeached and spent time in…..


Gravatar he had an on-message backdrop (sailors, aircraft carrier) while comparing Iraq to WW2.

As I said over at watertiger's, Bush chats up the cannon fodder while bodies rot in the sun.

He's only interested in prezident'in when there's fun stuff to do, like send troops off to blow shit up.


GravatarAll the freepi have to do is check out wikipedia..

but i'm guessing since they are mental migets they would hardly consider it...

New Orleans

New Orleans is a Southern city known for its multicultural heritage (especially French, Spanish and African-American influences) and its music and cuisine. It is a world-famous tourist destination thanks to its many festivals and celebrations; the most notable annual events are Mardi Gras, Jazz Fest, Southern Decadence, and college football's Sugar Bowl.

New Orleans was founded in 1718 and has played an important role in the history of the United States. The city was named in the honor of Philippe, duc d'Orléans, who was regent and ruler of France when the city was founded.

New Orleans is a major port city due to its location near the Gulf of Mexico and along the Mississippi River, making it a hub for goods which travel to and from Latin America. The petroleum industry is also of great importance to the New Orleans economy; many oil rigs are located in the Gulf. The Port of South Louisiana (which includes the port of N.O.) is based in the New Orleans metropolitan area and is the fourth largest port, in terms of raw tonnage, in the world.


GravatarWhat does bdg stand for (apparently, I missed it)?

Basement dwelling gelding.


GravatarIf this had happened on Clinton's watch, he would have been down there already, if for no nobler reason than he was saavy enough to know it would look bad if he was seen as doing nothing.

Bush has taken his sweet fucking time in responding (if he's even doing that now) to an honest-to-God national emergency. If he really was playing golf yesterday, there is no way to spin that in his favor...This is French Revolution level stuff, folks. If at least some of his more rational supporters aren't turned off by this Marie Antionette-like behavior, then God help us...


GravatarWhat does bdg stand for (apparently, I missed it)?

Big dumb galoot? Big dopey goofus? Bad dorky grunt? Breathless, dickless, gonadless?
Vicki



Yes.


Gravatar"No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."

Not bloody likely. We think he sees this as a perfect illustration of why disaster relief needs to be piratized. Umm, privatized. Whatever.


Gravatarand that serious leadership is...
...where?
br | 08.30.05 - 3:17 pm | #

Certainly not coming from the Democrat Party.
Sloth | 08.30.05 - 3:18 pm | #


The Democrats are not the ones in charge, you simple son of a bitch. This is all on you fucks. I'm loving every minute of it as I sit back and see the country go to hell on your watch.


GravatarAbandon ship. There comes a time when you can't bail out water anymore and you just have to bail out period. The city needs to reboot.


Gravatar "No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."

More likely he'd TiVoed "Reno 911" and was deep into that.


Gravatari have arranged for only the Bush Suckers to die--fear not!


GravatarNew Orleans CityBusiness, Jun 6, 2005

In fiscal year 2006, the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is bracing for a record $71.2 million reduction in federal funding.

It would be the largest single-year funding loss ever for the New Orleans district, Corps officials said.

I've been here over 30 years and I've never seen this level of reduction, said Al Naomi, project manager for the New Orleans district. I think part of the problem is it's not so much the reduction, it's the drastic reduction in one fiscal year. It's the immediacy of the reduction that I think is the hardest thing to adapt to.

There is an economic ripple effect, too. The cuts mean major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to local engineering firms. Also, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for now.

Money is so tight the New Orleans district, which employs 1,300 people, instituted a hiring freeze last month on all positions. The freeze is the first of its kind in about 10 years, said Marcia Demma, chief of the Corps' Programs Management Branch.

Stephen Jeselink, interim commander of the New Orleans Corps district, told employees in an internal e-mail dated May 25 that the district is experiencing financial challenges. Execution of our available funds must be dealt with through prudent districtwide management decisions. In addition to a hiring freeze, Jeselink canceled the annual Corps picnic held every June.


GravatarThis same sociopath dismantled FEMA and couldn't care less about the American or any other people (unless they have great wealth).
Rudy


Bingo! He and the oligarchy for which he fronts do not care about people and want to bankrupt the government. That is their plan. Sounds like a conspiracy theory, but who doubts it, really?


GravatarMartial law has been delcared in New Orleans.

Yikes.


Gravatarmulticultural heritage (especially French, Spanish and African-American influences)

Well, that'd be reason enough for the Freepi to hate NO.

"MULTICULTURAL? Why, it's that DEVIL stuff they told us 'bout on the 700 Club!"


Gravatargeez, i go out for a sandwich and a class of scotch, and when i get back that asswipe nazi prepubescent coward bdg is back? i wish it would crawl back under the rock from which it came.

nice photospread, water tiger. really makes the point clear, which is this:

there is ONE PERSON hired by the American people to be ultimately responsible for the safety of ALL of those people.

if he won't do the job, either because he is woefully incompetent or because he just doesn't give a shit, then he should step aside and let someone else do it. i pay part of his fucking salary, and i am not getting my money's worth - i want that slacker FIRED.


GravatarLooks like the chickens have come home to roost for Little Boots.
Sadly, he ignored the approaching hurricane with only a passing remark about folkses gettin' they asses outta there.

All day Sunday, there was pretty much silence from the boy on the approaching storm. He did congratulate himself concerning the Iraqi constitution (which was all pipe dream horseshit as none of what he said had any basis in reality).

Monday comes and what will likely be the worst natural disaster in our lifetimes decimates 150 miles of the Gulf Coast and he elsewhere and doesn't mention the disaster.

Ooops.

Right, Brian?


GravatarGov. Blanco considering emergency measures to evacuate the remaining 100,000 people left in the city. They are in serious danger remaining there--sewage and oil and toxic chemicals in the water which is rising rapidly from the breech in the levee...This is a disaster beyond belief. My heart is broken for my favorite city....


GravatarBig dumb galoot? Big dopey goofus? Bad dorky grunt? Breathless, dickless, gonadless?
Vicki


Big Dong Gobbler.


Gravatarany bets the Freepers will blame 'libruls' for building New Orleans 8 feet below sea level?
Moonbootica


Well, ya see - if those folks in New Orleans had been rich contributors to Bush and his buddies, he would be concerned about them.

Since they aren't, fuck 'em!

There's a special place in hell for DUMBya.


GravatarI think officials are lowballing it at this press conference


GravatarMena, I am with you: nothing really to say. Maybe this is the vision the Halliburtons and KBRs and Bushites have for America: a country decimated by toxic sludge and people starving.


GravatarBig Dong Gobbler.
Vestal Vespa


Bush Dong Gobbler.....and no, it's not the same thing.


GravatarIn early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain...

So in other words, Louisiana knew before the 2004 election that Fredo was fucking them over and still they voted for him because of what? "Moral values?" Because John Kerry would "take orders from Paris?" Because when Bush says he's going to do something he does it?

Well, I guess he said he was going to cut the funds and he did it. And now things are literally a disaster area.

You know, John Lindsay got run out of the NY mayor's job because he didn't plow Queens after a snowstorm.

Just sayin.


Gravatargood news is that the French Quarter has not been flooded; but flooding is continuing to rise downtown.


Gravatar Martial law has been delcared in New Orleans.



Should have happened yesterday. No shit.

I went thru a tornado in the early 70's that decimated the town I lived in. The next day, the National Guard was called in and a shoot to kill order was issued to stop looters and keep order.

Harsh, but necessary.


Gravatar"I'm loving every minute of it as I sit back and see the country go to hell on your watch."

Man, that's not cool.


Gravatar"No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."

he thinks about it every day.


Gravatarsewage and oil and toxic chemicals in the water which is rising rapidly from the breech in the levee...

And yesterday Monkey Boy Ruppert was here spewing shit about how this wasn't as bad as NOAA said it might be.

Too bad we can't give him some swimming lessons in that toxic stew he said didn't exist.


Gravatarthose who vote for Bush need to get it into their heads that Bush does not really give a shit abuot them.

for him and his junta they are just a route to power.


GravatarCertainly not coming from the Democrat Party.
Sloth | 08.30.05 - 3:18 pm | #


You and your fellow fucktards still think Bush is all that, don't you?

Stupid, stupid, stupid!


GravatarNow this is too funny:

CARACAS (AFP) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez offered to send food and fuel to the United States after the powerful Hurricane Katrina pummeled the US south, ravaging US crude production.

The leftist leader, a frequent critic of the United States and a target himself of US disapproval, said Venezuela could send aid workers with drinking water, food and fuel to US communities hit by the hurricane.

"We place at the disposition of the people of the United States in the event of shortages -- we have drinking water, food, we can provide fuel," Chavez told reporters.


Still want him dead, Robertson?

Watch the petty Bushies turn him down, though...


Gravatarthose who vote for Bush need to get it into their heads that Bush does not really give a shit abuot them.

for him and his junta they are just a route to power.
Moonbootica


He got the electoral votes he needed down there.

Now, they're on their own!


GravatarGive a guy a pony and he rides for a day.

Give him a herd....


And He'll never be wanting for a sex partner?

Sorry don't know were that came from.

Fuck all trolls.


GravatarIt would be nice to have loads and loads of National Guardsmenandwomen deployed to the Gulf Coast.


GravatarMan, that's not cool.

Too fucking right. This is a human catastrophe.

I see that Rep Joe Barton (R-Chevron) -- who is busily trying to discredit climate scientists -- is now worrying about the loss to oil supplies. What a fuckhead.


GravatarToo bad we can't give him some swimming lessons in that toxic stew he said didn't exist.
Pere Ubu |


I'll bet he can't swim, either!


GravatarJust think how great the outpouring of international aid might have been if we didn't have an arogant, egotistical, delusional and murdering imbecile for a president.


GravatarToo bad we can't give him some swimming lessons in that toxic stew he said didn't exist.

Just wait for a storm track that goes through Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard, where hos like Timmeh have their summer houses.


GravatarOoh thats awesome, thanks Hugo Chavez. Yeah of course Bush will not accept it, as you are a no-good (democratically elected) dictator. I hope Halliburton gets a multimillion dollar contract to provide our refugees with food.


Gravatarres ipsa loquitur | 08.30.05 - 4:38 pm | #


Amen.

Hope they like what they voted for.


GravatarWouldn't it be nice if they used Grover Norquist and his bathtub to fill in that levee.


GravatarAlthough New Orleans is getting all the press, the situation in Gulfport/Biloxi/Pascagoula is liable to be much worse as there are close to 500,000 people that live there and there was not much of an evacuation.
Storm surge was 20 feet. I will not be surprised if the death toll exceeds 10,000 in that area.

The folks that are left are fucked.

Good time for FEMA and the National Guard. What, you say they can't help significantly because the Guard is in Iraq and FEMA was gutted?

Ooops. Sorry hat, Brian, and sloth. You goobers are going to take the pipe on this one.


GravatarI also have to say that this concern with looting just seems a little odd to me right now. It's like being miffed that the peasents are out of uniform. The disaster is really big, hundreds are dead; property, things, stuff, these are things that people realize they don't really need when compared to the question of the safty or loss of their loved ones. Perhaps this is one of those conditional morality issues we liberals are supposedly always tossing around. In this circumstance, at this time, the looting issue just seems so insignificant. At some other time, in other circumstances, I'd be more concerned I guess.


Gravatar"No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."

he thinks about it every day.
dirk gently,uncensored



It's hard work.


He needs to get on with his life, rather than think about it.


GravatarI'm guessing some red states like Mississippi and Alabama may not be so monolithically Republican in the next election, given Bush's apparent lack of engagement in this crisis.

I remember when we had a real leader in the White House...
Samurai Sam


The Southern Strategery.


GravatarI think they need to avoid panic right now.
It would be nice to have had a large National Guard presence there.


GravatarI think they need to avoid panic right now.
It would be nice to have had a large National Guard presence there.


GravatarAnd yesterday Monkey Boy Ruppert was here spewing shit about how this wasn't as bad as NOAA said it might be.

Too bad we can't give him some swimming lessons in that toxic stew he said didn't exist.


To be fair, yesterday it didn't look like it was going to be that bad in New Orleans.


GravatarJust think how great the outpouring of international aid might have been if we didn't have an arogant, egotistical, delusional and murdering imbecile for a president.
Nikki


Remember how long it took him to comment on the tsunami?


GravatarGood point, Nikki. These clowns are too arrogant and petty to accept international help.


GravatarWhere are Atriots sending $$$?

Red Cross?


GravatarI'm loving every minute of it as I sit back and see the country go to hell on your watch.

From this I can see that the Democrat party genuinely places people above politics.


Gravatarany bets the Freepers will blame 'libruls' for building New Orleans 8 feet below sea level?

No, they'll blame the French, and for one single shining moment, they'll be right.


GravatarYou know what's really sad? This is only the first big storm to hit the area this year. What's gonna happen when #2 hits?

John Titor was right...


Gravatarcompletely agree, catalexis. In fact at a time like this looting really is the most economically efficient thing to do. What I dont get is ppl trying to rob ATMs. Will paper money do anyone a bit of good in the coming days?


GravatarDWD - i know. I've ached for my country before, but not like this.


GravatarTo be fair, yesterday it didn't look like it was going to be that bad in New Orleans.

Sorry - but I'm not inclined to be fair to Monkey Boy.


Gravatarthose who vote for Bush need to get it into their heads that Bush does not really give a shit about them

this is the number one message that everyone should understand. if this fiasco doesn't convince them, i don't know what will.

bush. does. not. give. a. shit. about. you.

he doesn't know you are alive, and if he did his only thoughts would be what he could get out of you, and how to maintain his distance.

he would not sit down for a beer with you. he will not put a donation in your church basket. he will not mobilize the NG before a disaster to try and prevent some suffering, and afterwords will not get his hands dirty trying to alleviate suffering. he will clear brush off part of his ranch where no human being will ever go, to the benefit of nothing, but he will not touch one piece of debris from the hurricane to make way for emergency vehicles to get through.

bush. does. not. share. your. values. or. give. a. shit. about. you.

period.


GravatarFrom CNN website: A U.S. pilot was killed and a second was wounded when a U.S. helicopter was hit by small-arms fire in northern Iraq, a military spokesman said.

The attack on the UH-58 Kiowa Warrior helicopter came while it was flying over Tal Afar.

The aircraft went down, but the wounded pilot was able to get the helicopter airborne again and left the immediate area.


That is amazing.


GravatarStill want him dead, Robertson?

Probably:

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said on Sunday his government would take legal action against Pat Robertson and potentially seek his extradition after the U.S. evangelist called for Washington to assassinate the South American leader.


GravatarI think they need to avoid panic right now.
It would be nice to have had a large National Guard presence there.
scout prime

It'd be nice to have a thinking human being in the White House, instead of a brain-dead frat boy who couldn't find his ass with both hands and a road map.


GravatarRed Cross donations page


GravatarFrom this I can see that the Democrat party genuinely places people above politics.
Sloth

And what is your recommendation dog dick? Let's hear it, fuckboy.


GravatarI'm loving every minute of it as I sit back and see the country go to hell on your watch.

From this I can see that the Democrat party genuinely places people above politics.
Sloth | 08.30.05 - 4:45 pm | #


Wanna bet Sloth posted the first comment himself?


GravatarFrom this I can see that the Democrat party genuinely places people above politics.
Sloth |


Another candidate for swimming lessons in downtown New Orleans.


GravatarFrom this I can see that the Democrat party genuinely places people above politics.
Sloth |


Another candidate for swimming lessons in downtown New Orleans.


Gravatar" New Orleans presents a conundrum for Bush, because there is no rubble on which to stand. Tough to get the good photo op."

"Hey, Turd. Ya think I could go down there, stand on the SuperDome, and shout some inanities through a megaphone?"


GravatarSorry - but I'm not inclined to be fair to Monkey Boy.
Pere Ubu


Neither am I.


GravatarI wonder if they could get cruise ships into New Orleans to pull people out?


GravatarCrAWOLford deja vu?

"Katrina was not a warning. There was no specific time or place mentioned."

And, besides, it was Cindy's fault, if I hadn't had to spend all my time ducking her, I could have focused on Katrina.


GravatarToo bad we can't give him some swimming lessons in that toxic stew he said didn't exist.

Twould be nice to see Murdoch a-swimming with this.


Gravatarmy thoughts are with the people of the cresent city and the surrouding cities and states.

hurricanes seem to be getting more powerful and more frequent.

and they say global warming is like a 'myth'?


GravatarI'm guessing some red states like Mississippi and Alabama may not be so monolithically Republican in the next election, given Bush's apparent lack of engagement in this crisis.

Nope. The Rethugs will campaign on a platform to rename Amtrak "The Jesus Choo Choo That Hates Fags" and all the stupid Xtian sheep will drool and fall back into line.


GravatarFrom this I can see that the Democrat party genuinely places people above politics.
Sloth | 08.30.05 - 4:45 pm | #


Hey, Sloth.

Go blow a goat!


Gravatar"Hey, Turd. Ya think I could go down there, stand on the SuperDome, and shout some inanities through a megaphone?"
Dumbya


Completely inaccurate.

No way Bush knows the word "inanities."


GravatarTrue, grabbing cash is not the smartest thing to do. You want to get your hands on the necessary supplies to keep you and yours alive. The desperatly deluded that are going to be shooting each other over pillowcases full of jewlery and Xboxes, you just to get as far away from those guys as you can.


Gravatar"Hey, Turd. Ya think I could go down there, stand on the SuperDome, and shout some inanities through a megaphone?"
Dumbya


We know this ain't the real W. The word "inanities" is not part of his vocabulary.

Fuck off sloth. YOu are a pussy.


GravatarThe problem in New Orleans right now is that the people left there have no idea of the scope of this disaster. There is no power, no radio, no TV, certainly no innernet.

They're talking about filling a cargo container with "something heavy" and dropping it in the levee breach. No word on what they think they're going to lift it with. I still think they should sink a barge on the break.


GravatarUnread memos of last few days:

Katrina determined to strike within US

Atlantic Hurricane Learns to Fly


GravatarThe Lord has raised his mighty mitt and brought down his vengeance on the sinful heathens of the evil south!!!

And yet, the want to have a prayer day?


GravatarBush will return to D.C. tomorrow? What the fuck is up with that?


GravatarYou know, John Lindsay got run out of the NY mayor's job because he didn't plow Queens after a snowstorm.

Hell, they never plow Queens after big snowstorms, at least not until we've waited a day, given up, dug out our cars so the plows can finally come and bury them again. After a big storm a few years ago they sent the plows our way like three days late. A plow went up my street scraping bare asphalt and throwing sparks - but nobody was going to say Rudy didn't plow Queens, dammit!


GravatarHey, sloth:


bush. does. not. give. a. shit. about. you.


GravatarFrom this I can see that the Democrat party genuinely places people above politics.

The person that posted that was from the Democratic Party? Not likely....


GravatarI'm guessing some red states like Mississippi and Alabama may not be so monolithically Republican in the next election, given Bush's apparent lack of engagement in this crisis.

Not to mention the fact that Bush has done nothing for the Ag community there, the South sends a huge number of soldiers overseas each year for this war farce, and they are closing military bases in some of the poorest counties in the rural south.

Yeah, the Repubelicans can't take the South for granted anymore . . .


GravatarI wonder if they could get cruise ships into New Orleans to pull people out?
Falstaff

nowhere to dock.


GravatarMore wonderful news from Bush's America:

U.S. Poverty Rate Rises to 12.7 Percent

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The nation's poverty rate rose to 12.7 percent of the population last year, the fourth consecutive annual increase, the Census Bureau said Tuesday.

The percentage of people without health insurance did not change.

Overall, there were 37 million people living in poverty, up 1.1 million people from 2003.


Thanks, Fredo.


GravatarBush will return to D.C. tomorrow? What the fuck is up with that?
smarty jones | 08.30.05 - 4:50 pm | #


its as far from cindy and hurricane refugees as he could get.


GravatarWhy is the Army Corps of Engineers just showing up now?
felix | 08.30.05 - 3:29 pm | #


Most of the Corps of Eng is comprised of civilians, not active duty. Around 80% or more. They are "just showing up" because there was nothing up to that point they could do.

The Corps is not superman, a SAR team, nor FEMA although the Corps works in close conjunction with them in disaster relief and there will definitely be alot of Corps employees from around the country working in the relief efforts down there over the next several months.

You're looking for someone to blame, but the Corps should not be your focus.

The Corps role is in building/maintaing the flood control structures as well as regulating the filling of wetlands. No budget, no levee. No support for enviro regulation...lax permitting stds for coastal wetlands.


GravatarI assume Sloth isn't the same person as the erudite Slothrup who makes frequent comments at Billmon's Whiskey Bar?


Gravatarhey pat robertshit
how about this? still wanna ice hugo?

CARACAS (AFP) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez offered to send food and fuel to the United States after the powerful Hurricane Katrina pummeled the US south, ravaging US crude production.


Gravatarhe Lord has raised his mighty mitt and brought down his vengeance on the sinful heathens of the evil south!!!

And yet, the want to have a prayer day?
A pack of lips Now!


Yeah, how come Jebus didn't per-teck them?


GravatarNope. The Rethugs will campaign on a platform to rename Amtrak "The Jesus Choo Choo That Hates Fags" and all the stupid Xtian sheep will drool and fall back into line.
Itchy


Unless Little Boots does something quick (at the speed of light) and significant (make it all better NOW), he is fucked with a large number of those folks. He let them down when the shit hit the fan. They will remember that.


Gravatarnowhere to dock.

Are the ports destroyed too?


GravatarIt appears that the levee breach is about 300 feet long...so a barge ain't gonna cut it either. Martial law has been declared, but who is going to enforce it? Anyone hear Bush address the country yet?


GravatarThe Army Corps of Engineers fucked up bigtime! Man, did they fuck up.


GravatarOverall, there were 37 million people living in poverty, up 1.1 million people from 2003.

Thanks, Fredo.
res ipsa loquitur


But the trolls and the freepers STILL think he's all that!


Gravatar"Bush will return to D.C. tomorrow? What the fuck is up with that?"
--smarty jones


He's cutting his vacation short by a day and a half because he cares, he really, really cares about this country.


GravatarBushism of the day, uttered in San Diego:

We mourn the lose of every life.

Blogwhore link, White House transcript link.


Gravatarso this press conference is basically the FEMA guy saying "we are so fucking awesome!" and Blanco and Landriue describing how devastating things are.


Gravatar"Yeah, how come Jebus didn't per-teck them?"

He did! It's just that his Dad is mo' powerful!


GravatarNope. The Rethugs will campaign on a platform to rename Amtrak "The Jesus Choo Choo That Hates Fags" and all the stupid Xtian sheep will drool and fall back into line.
Itchy



Oh, I don't think that's going to work anymore!


GravatarGov.: New Orleans Needs to Be Evacuated

The Associated Press
Tuesday, August 30, 2005; 4:40 PM



BATON ROUGE, La. -- With water rising in the streets of New Orleans and conditions rapidly deteriorating, Gov. Kathleen Blanco said Tuesday that the tens of thousands of people now huddled in the Superdome and other rescue centers would have to be evacuated.

"The situation is untenable," Blanco said at a news conference. "It's just heartbreaking."

Because of two levees that broke Tuesday, the city was rapidly filling with water, the governor said. She also said the power could be out for a long time, and the storm broke a major water main, leaving the city without drinkable water.


Gravatar(as opposed to a Connecticut preppy playing at one)

It's too late. New England aint taking him back.


GravatarWanna bet Sloth posted the first comment himself?
abyssgazer | Email | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 4:48 pm | #


sucker bet.

And yeah, the US is going to have to get over its issues of accepting foreign aid, because once peak oil hits, we're gonna be part of the world again instead of it's big daddy, just like we were pre-WWI.


GravatarBushism of the day, uttered in San Diego:

We mourn the lose of every life.



Nuke-qu-lar Moron strikes again!


Gravatar'but nobody was going to say Rudy didn't plow Queens, dammit!'

We would have liked him better if he had gotten plowed with queens.


GravatarI wonder if they could get cruise ships into New Orleans to pull people out?
Falstaff


they could have done that with navy ships BEFORE the hurricane. then sailed down the coast of tx to mexico and waited out the storm.

they could have done SOMETHING, god damn it. i would like to see one positive, useful bit of planning to have come out of this failed, discredited administration in the threat of the worst natural disaster to hit this country in recorded history. one.

and telling people "get in your cars and drive" or "stay where you are until we say it's safe again" don't count.


GravatarI wonder if they could get cruise ships into New Orleans to pull people out?
Falstaff


they could have done that with navy ships BEFORE the hurricane. then sailed down the coast of tx to mexico and waited out the storm.

they could have done SOMETHING, god damn it. i would like to see one positive, useful bit of planning to have come out of this failed, discredited administration in the threat of the worst natural disaster to hit this country in recorded history. one.

and telling people "get in your cars and drive" or "stay where you are until we say it's safe again" don't count.


GravatarHe's cutting his vacation short by a day and a half because he cares, he really, really cares about this country.
mer


B-b-but -- what about all that high-tech commnications gear they installed in the den at Crawford - I thought he could stay in complete touch with everyone in the world without putting on his pajamas?


GravatarHe's cutting his vacation short by a day and a half because he cares, he really, really cares about this country.
mer

i guess what i'm getting at is why not go fucking today, if he thinks getting to D.C. is so important?


GravatarThe person that posted that was from the Democratic Party? Not likely....

The shitwit believes, as all trolls here do, that we have the same kind of unquestioning dumbass lockstep Party loyalty they do.

BTW, just stopped over at Red Cross and donated my pittance. I'm going to expect the same of any troll who says shit about the situation. (Not that they will, but I'll demand it anyway.)


GravatarA few years ago, just as the snows were leaving the ground and the air was warm with the expectation of spring, we had an amazing, localized, storm in Norton Shores (a suburb of Muskegon where I live.) Apparently a thunder storm spawned a series of incredible wind bursts. Straitline wind far in excess of 100 MPH barreled in off the lake.

Trees were uprooted everywhere. One of the houses near mine had 36 trees uprooted in their lotPower lines were down. Roads were closed. Houses damaged. Two days later, after the weather cleared, one would be hard-pressed to know it had even happened.

The lesson here is this: with a realistic appraisal of what needs to be done and resources provided: people can do amazing things. In Norton Shores, chainsaws and trucks sprouted like mushrooms after a heavy rain.

Same thing here: a determination needs to be done but as a casual observer I would think the first hing to do is rebuild and strengthen the levee system. Once this has been acccomplished, the clean-up must begin. With the proper equipment and manpower this is possible: people. Truly!

What, no money? What, no manpower? What, no equipment?


GravatarA few years ago, just as the snows were leaving the ground and the air was warm with the expectation of spring, we had an amazing, localized, storm in Norton Shores (a suburb of Muskegon where I live.) Apparently a thunder storm spawned a series of incredible wind bursts. Straitline wind far in excess of 100 MPH barreled in off the lake.

Trees were uprooted everywhere. One of the houses near mine had 36 trees uprooted in their lotPower lines were down. Roads were closed. Houses damaged. Two days later, after the weather cleared, one would be hard-pressed to know it had even happened.

The lesson here is this: with a realistic appraisal of what needs to be done and resources provided: people can do amazing things. In Norton Shores, chainsaws and trucks sprouted like mushrooms after a heavy rain.

Same thing here: a determination needs to be done but as a casual observer I would think the first hing to do is rebuild and strengthen the levee system. Once this has been acccomplished, the clean-up must begin. With the proper equipment and manpower this is possible: people. Truly!

What, no money? What, no manpower? What, no equipment?


GravatarI've got work to do so I have to get back to Washington. But first let me get some rest... is that how i should take W's odd scheduling?


Gravatar"nowhere to dock."
--smarty jones


It will be truly amazing if NO ever recovers from this catastrophe.


GravatarI assume Sloth isn't the same person as the erudite Slothrup who makes frequent comments at Billmon's Whiskey Bar?
JM


Sloth is probably some 14 year old pissant, like a lot of these trolls are.


GravatarOT, just got a Nigerian spam message from a "Dr. Benson Dudu."

And with that, I'm out to go see Tom Petty on Red Rocks.

Hang in there, folks . . .


Gravatari guess what i'm getting at is why not go fucking today, if he thinks getting to D.C. is so important?
smarty jones | 08.30.05 - 4:56 pm | #


he's waiting for his city duds to get back from the cleaners.


GravatarYeah, let's hear Pat Robertson and Jerry FOULwell talk NOW about "how blessed we are as a nation" with Georgie Fuckwit in the White House.

Yeah - look at all the good things that have happened to this country since the SCOTUS handed the presidency to Dim Son.


GravatarHATE Hell O Scan sometimes.

Hell, most of the time.


GravatarOkay, can I hate CNN yet?

The death toll from the storm is estimated at 68 -- mostly in Mississippi. Officials stressed that the number is uncertain but likely to be much higher. (Watch the video report of a husband whose wife slipped from his grip -- 1:07 )

yeah, let's watch the poor bastard get interviewed about watching his wife disappear into the muddy waters. Fuckers!

(sorry - pissed off at the news and Bush, not necessarily in that order)


GravatarIs it really possible that Atrios does not recognize how ludicrous it looks to make his only commentary on this natural disaster be "Bush is to blame"?

Sometimes I think Atrios really is Karl Rove. His blind partisanship works to discredit anything the Left has to say...Rove could not be more effective.


GravatarCertainly not coming from the Democrat Party.

Have you noticed how the Republicans love to rub election loses in our faces, but they simply refuse to step up and govern.


GravatarBushism of the day, uttered in San Diego:

"We mourn the lose of every life."


Christ. What a fucking empty set of cowboy boots.


GravatarHe probabably has some important "message" he must send about Iraq or something. Or a fundraiser.


GravatarLeave it to Atrios to find the anti-Bush conspiracy in every natural catastrophe.

Thanks for 2004, moron.


Gravatarno country should suffer a leader like George Bush....


Gravatar"I'm loving every minute of it as I sit back and see the country go to hell on your watch."

Thees comment, she was posted by la trollita.

so.


GravatarYeah, let's hear Pat Robertson and Jerry FOULwell talk NOW about "how blessed we are as a nation" with Georgie Fuckwit in the White House.

ya know what always baffles me? fundie nitwits, in the path of a natural disaster that they must, by definition, beleive that jesus is sending their way, praying to be spared from the misery that he is chucking at them; and then, if they survive, praising him for not actually killing them but merely leaving them stripped of all their possessions in a hell on earth; when they must know that if they HAD been killed, it would have been god's will and they would be harping in heaven.

makes no fucking sense at all.


GravatarAll right, Damn it! I do want blood.

Where are the pictures from Abu Grahib?

What is Fitzgerald doing besides sitting on his hands?

Where are the arrests?

Where is the impeachment?


GravatarIs it really possible that Atrios does not recognize how ludicrous it looks to make his only commentary on this natural disaster be "Bush is to blame"?

Do YOU not recognize how ludicrous it is that BushCo dismantled FEMA?


GravatarLeave it to Atrios to find the anti-Bush conspiracy in every natural catastrophe.

conspiracy? no just gross, and probably criminal, negligence. and incompetence. and doesntgiveashitedness.


GravatarThanks for 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012.... Cog.


GravatarEarlier I said that Jonah and Rich "We're Winning" Lowry should compare notes to see who is a bigger moron.

Well they are...SUPERDOME...meet SUPERDOUCHES

"SUPERDOME [Rich Lowry ]
Personally, I thought the Jonah Superdome riff was funny and clearly was poking fun at the media frenzy around Katrina at a time when it seemed especially over-blown.
Posted at 04:52 PM"


GravatarIs it really possible that Atrios does not recognize how ludicrous it looks to make his only commentary on this natural disaster be "Bush is to blame"?

Leave it to Atrios to find the anti-Bush conspiracy in every natural catastrophe.


Fuck you both. He's blaming the man who, as it says in the post, decided that blowing shit up in Iraq was more important than building levees in Louisiana. Now Americans are dead as a direct result of his shitty priorities.

I assume both of you are contributing to the Red Cross to help out down there. If not, fuck you doubly.


GravatarIs it really possible that Atrios does not recognize how ludicrous it looks to make his only commentary on this natural disaster be "Bush is to blame"?

Sometimes I think Atrios really is Karl Rove. His blind partisanship works to discredit anything the Left has to say...Rove could not be more effective.
Marty DiBergi


Said from the guy who gave us Spinal Tap, so this is no doubt satire.

If not, I'm really sick of hearing from psuedo-lefties about how we don't want to "discredit" ourselves by stating the obvious.


GravatarWhat are the levels of the Mississippi River at NOLA? Because of the drought in the midwest, they were dredging the river at Memphis because water levels were so low they were a hazard to navigation. They can open the Bonne Carre spillway to release water from Lake Ponchatrain into the river and that could alliviate some flooding.


GravatarCog, I realize that the hurricane didn't affect you up there in Toronto.

But have a little compassion, OK?


GravatarIn Norton Shores, chainsaws and trucks sprouted like mushrooms after a heavy rain.

Same thing here: a determination needs to be done but as a casual observer I would think the first hing to do is rebuild and strengthen the levee system. Once this has been acccomplished, the clean-up must begin. With the proper equipment and manpower this is possible: people. Truly!


Truer words were never posted.

I remember the straight line winds. Scary stuff. Grand Haven was torn apart.

It's built back up now.


GravatarGovernor orders complete evacuation of New Orleans


Gravatar"No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."

Anything yet? Nope? Oh well, I guess presidentin' really is as hard as they say.


GravatarGalveston Flood



It was the year of 1900 that was 80 years ago
Death come'd a howling on the ocean and when death calls you've got to go
Galveston had a sea wall just to keep the water down
But a high tide from the ocean blew the water all over the town.

Wasn't that a mighty storm
Wasn't that a mighty storm in the morning
Wasn't that a mighty storm
It blew all the people away.

The sea began to rolling the ships they could not land
I heard a captain crying Oh God save a drowning man
The rain it was a falling and the thunder began to roll
The lightning flashed like Hell-fire and the wind began to blow

The trees fell on the island and the houses gave away
Some they strived and drownded others died every way.

The trains at the station were loaded with the people all leaving town
But the trestle gave way with the water and the trains they went on down
Old death the cruel master when the winds began to blow
Rode in on a team of horses and cried death won't you let me go.

The flood it took my mother it took my brother too
I thought I heard my father cry as I watched my mother go
Old death your hands are clammy when you've got them on my knee
You come and took my mother won't you come back after me?


GravatarHaven't been around much the last few days, and this has probably been beaten to death, but:

Why couldn't Pat Robertson and his kind have been doing something useful with their time, like "praying the hurricane away" instead of making threats against the lives of foreign leaders?

"You can NOT petition the lord with prayer!!
/Jim Morrison


GravatarIs it really possible that Atrios does not recognize how ludicrous it looks to make his only commentary on this natural disaster be "Bush is to blame"?

please. tell me ONE DAMN THING that bush, as the person responsible for the safety of the citizens of the USA, did on the verge of this easily anticipated disaster to make anyone safer? ONE FUCKING THING?

he doesn't get to use the Rice defense - "who could have known?" - or the Clenis defense - "the previous adminsitration dismantled FEMA (o, wait, that was us)"

really. i'd like to think the president is not a total absolute complete miserable failure. just once. but i'm not optimistic.

so answer the question, or fuck off.


GravatarHere's his lame-ass excuse, as reported by MSGOP:

"President Bush was making plans to tour the disaster area, reported NBC's Kelly O'Donnell, who was traveling with the president in California.

Spokesman Scott McClellan said Bush hoped to visit later in the week but didn't want to interfere with rescue and relief efforts."

asshat!


GravatarLet's lower Goldberg and Lowry slowly by a rope from the roof of the Superdome while a loudspeaker says to the crowd "THESE PEOPLE MADE FUN OF YOUR SUFFERING AND THOUGHT IT WAS KOOL".


GravatarWhy couldn't Pat Robertson and his kind have been doing something useful with their time, like "praying the hurricane away"

He only prays for them to miss Virginia. Everyone else is on their own. Social Christian Darwinism at work.


GravatarCog, I realize that the hurricane didn't affect you up there in Toronto.

But have a little compassion, OK?


Compassion from Cog? You'd get blood from a stone first.


GravatarOkay, can I hate CNN yet?

yes. yes you may. in fact, you have some back hate coming to you.


GravatarCog's from Toronto??? I guess the SARS epidemic wasn't even a blip on his radar screen. Callous fuckwad...


Gravatar"rescue and relief efforts"? What "rescue and relief efforts"?


GravatarBush hoped to visit later in the week but didn't want to interfere with rescue and relief efforts.

a Likely Story.

more like he doesn't want to go down there 'til most of the icky stuff has been cleaned up and he can pretend to be all manly 'n shit, just like he did after 9/11. Fuckwit.


GravatarBush does have some power to help. He is the boss of the bureacracy. If there are disputes about what to do, he can make the final decision and so forth.


GravatarCog and Marty--

Why is it a bad thing to call out someone whose failures have led to this hurricane's devastation being far worse than it could have been. The only way to make thing better next time is to learn from our mistakes this time. Just so happens that a shitload of those mistakes were made by Bush. If you want balance, I think Nagin (D) totally dropped the ball in not issuing a mandatory evacuation order sooner. Thus an evacuation that was meant to take place over a period of 72 hours was rushed to be completed in a third of that time. It's not so much a partisan thing. Just common sense.


GravatarSpokesman Scott McClellan said Bush hoped to visit later in the week but didn't want to interfere with rescue and relief efforts."


well, maybe we should be relieved that he isn't going down there to fuck it up. since he'd have to make the SS round up all the democratic relief workers and put them in a "free-assistance" zone, and none of the few remaining repubs could start work until they signed a loyalty oath.

but it would be nice to have a pres who could make a bigger contribution than "staying out of the way."


GravatarIn 1993, Pat Robertson blamed the massive flooding of the upper Mississippi River valley on America for electing Bill Clinton president.


GravatarOk the marching clean up workers are a bit odd.


GravatarAt least he could do a fucking fly-over. What a dick.


Gravatar If you want balance, I think Nagin (D)...

shaq, i've tried explaining this to wingnuts before - but it doesn't work, because it would destroy their entire belief system to think that bush could have made even ONE TINY MISTAKE. just try and get them to admit one. see, they think everyone and everything is either black or white, evil or good; and that they oare on the side of good.

so if bush made a mistake, and they voted for him, then jesus did not die for their sins and people evolved from bigfoot.

my hats don't fit right anymore, my forhead has been flattened by beating it against that wall.


Gravatar"Compare & Contrast"

Short version: Whitey = "Resident finds food!", Darkey = "Man loots grocery store!"


GravatarNagin (D) totally dropped the ball in not issuing a mandatory evacuation order sooner..... meant to take place over a period of 72 hours

48 hours before the hurricane made landfall, it was a category 3 storm, and it had not yet been predicted to hit near New Orleans rather than Pensacola. A little later, maybe 40 hours before it hit, it was re-tracked to hit NO, and I believe that that was when the voluntary evacuation order was issued. Maybe Nagin should have pushed the panic button then, but you have to consider the magnitude of what an evacuation of New Orleans means.

72 hours before the storm hit, it was just barely a category 1 storm, and it was just southwest of the Florida peninsula. NOBODY though it would hit NO at that point, so it is pretty unfair to suggest that a mandatory evacuation order should have been issued then.

So, maybe he was 12 hours late in issuing the order, but he sure as hell wasn't 48 hours late.


Gravataroops...forgot to close my italics.


GravatarI hate so say this but Rush Limbaugh said the left would try to politicize hurricane Katrina and bloody hell if he wasn't right... I despise Rush Limbaugh but he was right on this one...


Gravatar"I'm loving every minute of it as I sit back and see the country go to hell on your watch."

Thees comment, she was posted by la trollita.

so.
¡El Gato Negro! | Email | Homepage | 08.30.05 - 5:04 pm | #


obvious even to a cat


Gravatar> "No doubt President Bush is watching this footage thinking of how he can help."

Brilliant!

Unfortunately, he needs another day or so for Karl to figure out how to play this one. They need to line up contractors before they hand out big money and they need to make sure the locals are on board before they do shit. They are nothing if not opportunists-- they'll make their play as soon as the game is rigged.


GravatarOk, this is confusing...

"4:21 P.M. - WWL-TV Reporter quotes officials as saying there may now be 60,000 people in the Superdome and that more people are still being urged to go there."

Is is possible that even with all this going on, the Superdome is still the best place to be?

Maybe, if they decided to use it as a triage and treatment center.

Who will ever want to go to a sporting event there again?


GravatarLove ya, Moonbotica. Ignore the troll.


GravatarI hate so say this but Rush Limbaugh said the left would try to politicize hurricane Katrina and bloody hell if he wasn't right... I despise Rush Limbaugh but he was right on this one...
E. Nonee Moose | Email | 08.30.05 - 5:34 pm | #


let me say it again:

It is BUSH'S JOB to protect the safety of American Citizens. He DID NOTHING, and needs to be held accountable for that. It is not partisanship, it is called ACCOUNTABILITY.

So unless you can give SOME kind of evidence that he at least ATTEMPTED to actually do his job, stop calling it politicization.


GravatarE. Nonee Moose,

Rush Limbaugh said the left would try to politicize hurricane Katrina

As if he most especially among the winger asshats didn't try to blame Clinton for EVERY DAMN THING that went wron during his presidency.

What stunning hypocrisy!

And, BTW, criticism of how shrubby boy responds to the situation is TOTALLY LEGITIMATE. Fuck you!


Gravatarhe doesn't get to use the Rice defense - "who could have known?" - or the Clenis defense - "the previous adminsitration dismantled FEMA (o, wait, that was us)"

b...b...b...but Al Gore lied about going on a helicopter ride with the chief of FEMA.


GravatarI hate so say this but Rush Limbaugh said the left would try to politicize hurricane Katrina and bloody hell if he wasn't right...

Yeah, because he didn't at all politicise Al Gore forgetting who he went on FEMA visits with. Sorry, but I don't give a shit about drug addicts with bully-pulpits.


GravatarI hate so say this but Rush Limbaugh said the left...

Rush ALWAYS lays out the obvious course so he can pretend it's a conspiracy.

And some people are actually dumb enough to believe it.

Rush knows Bush let us down, but he doesn't care. We do, and Bush is accountable.

All caught up, now?
.


GravatarStrumming while NOLA sinks.


GravatarAll caught up, now?

Actually, no, I'm not caught up. I'm just never fucking voting again. I used to pull a straight Democrat ticket but if you people don't have any more scruples than this then you really aren't any better than the Republicans.


GravatarThis is a massive disaster requiring some serious leadership.

Paging Jimmy Carter and/or Bill Clinton.

Even GHW Bush will do in a pinch.

Somebody. Anybody.

Anybody but Little Boots, because he's a little too wrapped up in his golf game to notice what's going on.


Gravatar"Cog, I realize that the hurricane didn't affect you up there in Toronto."

Lol. Now I am from Toronto?

Oh, and spare some of that compassion for Atrios, who after one of the biggest natural disasters to hit this country, tries to exploit it into another anti-Bush fest.

Disgusting.

And yes, I donated to the Red Cross last night. And Shaq, what happened at LSU? You let me down bigtime.

Not to let facts get in the way, but a stat over the air now said National Guard troop levels in the Gulf States ranged from 60-77% availability. And levee managment has been an issue in N.O. for decades. It would have cost billions and many years before Katrina, and now it will cost that much more over an even longer period.

I am sure that angle will be the next from the Atrios/MediaMatters smear campaign. You do Democrats proud.

Thanks for 2004, moron.


GravatarWatching the Weather Channel, and that vacuous dope Carl Parker just said a little while ago, "It could've been worse!" Worse? Place looks like a nuke went off, bodies all over, and he says this. Airhead.

I think they told him to knock it off, because he has gotten a bit more grave in the last few minutes.

When I get paid Fri I'm kicking in some buxx for these poor people.


GravatarI hate so say this but Rush Limbaugh said the left would try to politicize hurricane Katrina and bloody hell if he wasn't right... I despise Rush Limbaugh but he was right on this one...
E. Nonee Moose



that's like a junkie warning against the dangers of recreational drug use.


GravatarIf there is any anti-Bush angle to this horrific disaster, it is only because Bush himself made it so with his disgraceful inaction.


GravatarBush I sent 30,000 troops to help after Andrew.

Giuliani got anything he wanted after 9-11.

Mayor Ray Nagin is trying to handle the worst natural disaster in modern American history with NOTHING. Not a goddamn thing. He's got local law enforcement, the tatters that are left of the heavily deployed LA National Guard, and the NOTHING!

Politicize my ass. People are dying, the city is drowning, and the fucking federal government has nothing but toss-off lines about "listen to your local government." Where was the mobilization for the pending (remember, not SURPRISE but inevitable freight train, on every channel for 3 days) disaster? Where was it? And where is the help now? Where are the troops, the equipment, the help?

Nope. Nothing but useless rhetoric from Bush. That's not partisan, it's fucking criminal. Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanco are left without the equipment or manpower to try to save the thousands trapped in rising waters. And all Bush could do was *yawn!* give up his vacation a little early.

Its a disgrace. Its an outrage. It shouldn't matter who is in what party. It didn't have to be this way, but it is because the Mayor and Governor were left to swing in the wind while Bush rode his bike through poppy fields and the rest of the feds twiddled their thumbs.


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