I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarfrist


Gravatartrolllllllllll


GravatarYEE Ha!!!!


GravatarAre you actually asking trolls to be rational? Good Luck


GravatarOK... um, we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here?

Also, Michael Moore is fat, so it's alright.


GravatarUh, freedom is on the march, and uh, it damages our ability to monitor islamofascists, and uh, uh, uh ....


GravatarOh, Atrios. You know they don't come out in the sunlight.


GravatarDuuuuhhhhhhhh. Huh? Mee no smart. Boosh Ruulzz!


Gravatar...that's all I got. I'll leave the rest to the real trolls.


GravatarWell, we can be pretty sure this thread will be trool free.


GravatarBecause they hate our freedom.

(I been workin' on that'un)


GravatarI was going to have a crack at it, you know, slip into right wing caricature mode? But these days the acting is a little too disturbing.


GravatarHave I mentioned "Eschaton, the Movie"

being shot even as we speak on New Orleans.

the story is about gods coming to earth to duke it out...

dunno who wins...


GravatarUm...

gimme a sec...

...


Because now they're gonna use different kinds of telephones!

There, I've run circles round you logically!


GravatarDon't expect any rationality from douchebags like this.


GravatarUmm, I think this is the prime example of the fact that our entire culture is suffering from battered-spouse syndrome. Don't talk about it and it doesn't exist. And for God's sake, don't let the neighbors know.


GravatarBonne Annee, mes amis!!!

Paris was fantastic, but I've missed you all and am very glad to be back!!!


GravatarGod Bless Our Troops
And God Bless our Preznit......


Cep't......

There ain't no god


Gravatar9/11 Changed everything.


Gravatarthe president is my friend. You said bad things about him. the president also is a christian and christians have christ to lead them not bill Clenton.
The president cares about us like jesus dos and has our safty in hismind when he did this. Weer at war. we need to do this to catch demacrats who want osama ben laden to win.


Gravatarsallyh!!!

Welcome home.

How was la belle France?


GravatarBecause the President wants to protect us from terrorists this time.


Gravatar9/11 changed everything.
That is their excuse.

MYOB'
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GravatarSallyh,

Welcome back! Ah, Paris in the snow...


GravatarBecause now they're gonna use different kinds of telephones!

And they'll get unlisted numbers?


GravatarFlory--la Belle France was fantastique!!!


GravatarAnd besides, God is on our side


GravatarBecause people deserve a second chance in life.


GravatarThis explains all:
The Chimp Who Would Be King


Gravatar"If we let them know what we are doing, they will have the advantage", um, "they want to kill us, what more do you need?".. um, "they look different damn it!"


GravatarYour al just irrasional osama bin kerry lovers.

morans

[ok, i'm not very good at this]


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GravatarBecause we want to lull the Terrists into a False Sense of Security, that we are so Full of Freedom that they can do whatever they want and then they will slip up and we will learn their Nefarious Islamofascist Plot in time for Dear Leader to be briefed in a PDB and personally torture the details out of the Terrible Swarthy Infidels and avert the Mushroom Smoke.


Gravatarsallyh -- did you eat great quantities of fabulous food and drink wonderful wines?

And did you bring us recipes?


GravatarJoseph, "The Dean" (or someone using his URL) used to troll here.

He left after getting bitch-slapped repeatedly.


Gravatar[waves to sallyh]


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GravatarExplain to me, in your best wingnutnese, how exactly it damages national security to reveal the fact that we spy on people without secret warrants

Get a clue Atrios, al qaeda has agents in FISA.


GravatarWhat's really bad is the fact that we have an evil opponent who wants to blow us up and that six months after 3,000 of our American citizens were slaughtered right in front of our eyes, that we were confronted with this challenge. I'm really sorry that we have this kind of evil enemy that wants to slaughter us, but I'm very happy that we have a president that, six months after they slaughtered 3,000 of our citizens, he decided to follow up on a lead that was given to our people by breaking up an al Qaeda cell in Pakistan, and followed through on that to make sure that there wasn't another imminent attack, and thus probably saving many thousands of American lives. We can be proud of President Bush for protecting us.


Gravatarthe terrorists hate our freedom so the president must take it away for our own good


GravatarOoo. Ooo. Ooo.


It damages national security because Freedom Isn't Free! The Islamofascists Hate Us For Our Freedom! To Make An Omlet You Have To Break A Few Eggs!

Do we need more?


Gravatarit's not like they didn't telegraph what they were up to with the TIA thingy. Besides when they wanted to spy on the UN deligates, and Opposition campaigns they couldn't allow the court to turn them down.

It's all over compensation because they ignored Hart-Rudman, and 35+ PDB's telling them what was going to happen on 9-11.


GravatarYOUR ALL LOOSER POOPYHEADS!

Sorry, I panicked.


GravatarBetter yet, explain why an investigation into the leak is starting now, instead of a year ago.

Why wait a year, and then decide it's a problem worthy of a DOJ investigation?


Gravatarhi Sallyh!


GravatarParis was fantastic, but I've missed you all and am very glad to be back!!!
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere

You mean you went to Paris and didn't spend all day in front of the computer reading about the latest tripe from Tweety and Little Scottie?


GravatarLimited [lurch] limited [smirk]


GravatarFlory--I did indeed eat great quantities of fantastic food and drank much lovely French wine! No recipes, but I did ask a boulanger what the secret to French pastry was. Seems they mill their flour differently in France. So I brought some home. Couldn't bring home any French butter, though--it's considered an agricultural product.

Watertiger--we didn't get much snow. Weather was mostly nice, around 5-7 C.


GravatarParis was fantastic, but I've missed you all and am very glad to be back!!!
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere - 9:48 pm


has Paris ever been less than fantastic? i remember making love in the bois d'boulogne with an english girl named Evalyn at dawn beside a pond where swans honked and swam ...


Gravatarbecause as the brilliant john heinelicker explains, the entire government is conspiring aginst chimpy so it would leak out if he got a warrant.


GravatarSorry, I panicked.
watertiger


BURMA!


Gravatar9/11?


Gravatardems puke hate from queef holes because god is arbitrary like carp


GravatarWait, is this an open thread or does it have an assigned topic?


Gravatarthe leaker must be leaked upon!


GravatarSorry, I panicked.

Burma!


GravatarSimple: For non-wingnuts, "National Security" is a matter of protecting all America against its enemies, whereas for wingnuts, "National Security" is a matter of protecting wingnuts against their enemies.
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Gravatarhi sallyh! Welcome back!


GravatarAtrios supports the troops! Or something.


GravatarSallyh, I was thinking of you just today. I missed you.


Gravatarwe spy on people without secret warrants instead of the fact that we spy on people with secret warrants?

duh. . . it's the secrecy, of course.

Stupid fucking liberals.


Gravatarsallyh -

Sorry, I thought you meant you were in Paris Hilton rather than Paris France. My apologies.

[ok, i'll go away now...]


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GravatarDamn you, rmj.

I keed.


GravatarWoody--Paris is always fantastic. I had so much fun on this trip. We were bad, too--we never called anyone the entire time

Draco--believe it or not, I haven't touched a computer or listened to the news in an entire week. It was delightful.


GravatarDamn you, rmj.

I keed.
Dr. Uncle Cap'n Mr. Goto-san


Oh, intercourse the penguin!


Gravatarhas Paris ever been less than fantastic? i remember making love in the bois d'boulogne with an english girl named Evalyn at dawn beside a pond where swans honked and swam ...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka


I'm sure that sounds much lovelier than it really was. *sobs with envy*


GravatarWait, is this an open thread or does it have an assigned topic?
NTodd, Gold Leader

please stay on topic

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GravatarBecause Clinton diddled an intern! (Can't believe nobody's said that yet. Y'all are slacking.)


GravatarWhy wait a year, and then decide it's a problem worthy of a DOJ investigation?
Rmj, Wandering Aengus


Because an investigation would almost certainly have leaked -- and then someone, not quite as pliable as Keller, might've reported what they were up to?


GravatarShorter Atrios: Terrorists are bad.


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Gravatar"Well, if it gets out that we spied on Americans without warrants then the terrorists know that we are spying on them too without warrants.

Like Duh!"

Said by a Wyoming Oil Rig Supervisor to Poncho & Lefty.

The depth of genius left me speechless. So I just went and got a pint of Ben & Jerry's Immaculate Conception Forbidden Chocolate Ice Cream.


GravatarSpork--was that you with that underage French girl on the Champs Elysees on New Years' Eve, trying to get her drunk?


Gravatarthe leaker must be leaked upon!
olexicon, arbitrary carp

Yellow!

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GravatarAh, Sallyh--

went to Paris once, in June, on a tour with high school kids (I was in college).

I still loved it.

I still do.

Someday, I'll take my wife and the golden child, and return.

After all, "My father always promised us that we would live in France..."


Gravataryou PEOPLE hate fredom and the UsA
and therefore america is safe without John Kerry as commander in cheef


GravatarI'll take a crack at what a wingnut might say.

Disloyal Americans with clean records and no reason whatsoever to become a person of interest to the government who were, nevertheless, contemplating taking part in, or assisting in attacks on America in cahoots with Islamic terrorists abroad will now know not to chit chat about it over the telephone.

We could have smoked these future would be terrorist bastards out of their hiding places (their minds) but that opportunity is gone since these folks will now be more paranoid, knowing that the NSA is now monitoring us all.

... Including me, oh god, I subscribe to The Nation!!! I am fucked!!


Gravatarplease stay on topic

What's the topic? Top Secret Ranch Dip Programs?


GravatarWhy wait a year, and then decide it's a problem worthy of a DOJ investigation?

Dow Jones doesn't investigate stuff, stoopid libruls. WAPISH!!!


Gravatar82.6 % of american's think it's really, really good to arrest terrorists. that's why.

now, how come you banned annie?
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GravatarThe girls on Dates for Dems are just models.


GravatarBurma?
2x, even

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Gravatarplease stay on topic

What's the topic? Top Secret Ranch Dip Programs?
NTodd, Gold Leader


If we told you, we'd have to kill you.

And then start an investigation into the leak.

In about a year or so.

Depending on what the polls said at the time.


Gravataryou hate america's freedom to by ranch dressing!


GravatarWhy wait a year, and then decide it's a problem worthy of a DOJ investigation?

Better theater?


GravatarFuck this topic shit. Here's a picture of Orion, and of Sam proving that I have been cleaning.

PS--RANCH DIP!


GravatarSo they get an assignment, and they call in sick?


GravatarI'm sure that sounds much lovelier than it really was. *sobs with envy*
Marcia Brady


It was cold and raining. He got grassstains on his knees. There was thistle around the pond.

And then a duck pooped on his jacket.

It was a lovely experience.


Gravatarfunction() = correct, al-qaeda was infiltrated the DOJ and will tip off their fellow Jihadist (using MSM fellow travelers) if they go for a warrant.


GravatarNTodd--I've missed the kids. How are they doing?


GravatarUmmmm OK let me try....

While the government was constrained, or believed to be constrained, by the rule of law as practiced by the beauracrats in Washington DC, the enemies of the West could feel free to engage in conversations they might feel were unlikely to be intercepted. Now that they know we will not stop at anything, even our own purported laws, they will now be more careful and we could lose information we might otherwise have obtained.

----

That's the only angle I could envision.


GravatarBecause Hitlery's a lesbo!


GravatarHow are the trolls gonna troll this thread anyways???


Gravatar82.6 % of american's think it's really, really good to arrest terrorists. that's why.
Remind me again how many we've arrested?


's'odd that penguin bein' there.


Gravatarsallyh asks:

Spork--was that you with that underage French girl on the Champs Elysees on New Years' Eve, trying to get her drunk?

She told me she was dix-huit ans.


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GravatarThe Bushies, in their preppie arrogance, assume that the enemy, like the American people, are really effin' stupid. Therefore, terrorists planning a secret attack would never suspect that their communications might be monitored until that was revealed by the NYT.

Now anybody who ever even got a whiff of common sense from a distance knows that's bullshit, that the enemy has consistently outsmarted the Bushies - hell, he even held a memo that said "bin Laden determined to strike in US" in August 2005 and didn't even cut his vacation short - but the political message here is not directed at people with common sense. It is directed at true believers who need a straw to grab hold of, anything to refute the ugly truth.

To them, it doesn't matter that the message makes no sense whatsoevr. What matters is that they have a rallying point, a position that paints all who question the infallibilty of God's Chosen Leader as terrorist enablers. The really cynical point here is that Bush himself is gullible enough to believe it and, to his loyal followeres, that gives him credibility. It is about keeping the faith.


GravatarNTodd--I believe the phrase is 'Stay on target.'


Gravatarhas Paris ever been less than fantastic? i remember making love in the bois d'boulogne with an english girl named Evalyn at dawn beside a pond where swans honked and swam ...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar

sure the swan wasn't named Evalyn?


GravatarWhat's the topic? Top Secret Ranch Dip Programs?
NTodd, Gold Leader

Well, now we're gonna have to kill you.
(and weren't you killed the other nite?)

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GravatarBy tipping off al Qaeda that we're doing exactly what they think we're doing, the terrorists will have already won!

BTW, the most recent chatter is that they will attack us with exploding penguins on the telly.


GravatarOK,

The islamofascists realize that using legal secret warrants mean that Bush will need to eventually have a legitimate excuse within 72 hrs under FISA.

Bush, when making important decisions, relies not on pussy studies and advisors, but rather on his gut, a methodology which simply does not fit into the 72 hr legal way.

Eg, Bush thinks some anonymous avg. American, like Padilla, may actually be an islamofascist intent on detroying the republic. Bush knows he is guilty, just cant prove it, not yet at least. It may be that Bush obtains proof of his hunch 85 hrs later, over the 72 hr. limit of FISA.

However Bush's hunch saves the nation. If he had obeyed the current laws the nation would be destroyed.


GravatarIt was a lovely experience.
flory, Business Manager


Well, it was Paris.

After all.


Gravatarthe spiders from mars hate americas freedom


GravatarIt is hard work that way.


Gravatar(bows to rmj)

IOW, I can't remember any more refs from that sketch.


GravatarOh I know I know!!!!

Because Mike Moore is a big fatty!


GravatarBecause Bush learned all he knows about intel from watching 24?


GravatarI'm sure that sounds much lovelier than it really was. *sobs with envy*

I'll ask spork where the best Pittsburgh swan-ponds are.


Um, pigeons okay as a substitute?


Gravatarmostly i worry about the panda cubs of mass destruction


GravatarThe girls on Dates for Dems are just models.

that's a lie! she likes me we're and gonna be together and everything...


GravatarSalut, RMJ!

Haven't spoken directly to you in quite some time. It's always so crowded and loud in this bar.


GravatarFuck this topic shit. Here's a picture of Orion, and of Sam proving that I have been cleaning.

Look -- Its a couch!!!

How'd that bonfire in the back forty work out?


GravatarThey stamp them when they're small.


Gravataryou LIEberals would rather elect howard dean than fight the terrorist by bombing where they aren't?


Gravatarmostly i worry about the panda cubs of mass destruction

Did somebody say panda cubs?


Gravatarone word guckert, er gannon.


GravatarEvalyn sold the Herald Tribune on the Champs Elysee

i was in Paree on leave, my first--i was 19--10 days in the most exotic city anywhere around. we happened to be staying at the same hostel in the Montparnasse...it was, iirc, pretty magical...we'd been at a disco all night, and were walking back through the bois, and the dawn was just pinking the sky...it was june...



ah, the older i get, the better i usta be...
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GravatarGee... it's probably no fun to troll by invitation huh?


GravatarDON'T give those assholes a forum!


GravatarJust because Congress doesn't specifically give the President the right to do something doesn't mean he doesn't have the right do to do that something. Here's the 9th amendment to the Constitution:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Just substitute "George W." for "the people" and you can see he can pretty much do anything he wants to.

Here, like this:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by George W. Bush, the president.

Since George W. Bush, the President, is the representation of the people, it's ok if he wants to do that thing, spying on the bad guys.

I should be a Justice on the Supreme Court or something.


Gravatarpanda nipples?


GravatarOr perhaps then we couldn't spy on political dissidents?


Gravatar NTodd--I've missed the kids. How are they doing?

Sam and I have been in bachelor mode for over a week. Cairo is still out in the woods with Mommy. Thursday we'll be joined by Mexico, a 2yo shepenji male.


GravatarNorth Park has ducks.

[shrug]


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GravatarBecause Bush is the Hero of 911. He saved us, all.


GravatarEither surveillance is warranted or it is not. If it is warranted why make it secret?.

Jeeze, get a clue.


Gravatarcan;t you see
the presidnet must act like stalin to defeat islamofascism


Gravatar the terrorists hate our freedom so the president must take it away for our own good

This is brilliant. Now, if Bush had admitted that they attacked us because they hated our airbase in Saudi Arabia, then he would have to admit that he eliminated that airbase to appease bin Laden and prevent another attack. But since he claimed the attack was because "they hate our freedoms", then he has to eliminate our freedoms to prevent another attack.

After 3 more years of freedom-losing, bin Laden won't hate us anymore!!


GravatarThis is clearly the answer to trolling.

Atrios can throw in a gratuitous kweschin just for the trolls in every post, and bingo! They'll stay away in droves.


GravatarSalut, RMJ!

Haven't spoken directly to you in quite some time. It's always so crowded and loud in this bar.
watertiger


I'm usually the quiet one in the corner, anyway.

Me and a bloke named Kierkegaard.

As for the topic, NTodd: How should I know? I'm not Dr. bloody Bronowski!

(yes, I'm going to wring that silly skit dry)


GravatarWe have to spy on Americans over here so we don't have to spy on others over there?


GravatarWatertiger~
Cheney's lunch menu was gold. We passed that one around all day.
Mucho grassy ass.


GravatarHere's how it works:

1. Michael Moore is a big fat guy
2. Freedom is on the march
3. Turning the corner
4. Known knowns
5. Liberation
6. Sadaam
7. Them
8. Oil
9. Us
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GravatarTHe president is pleased to have the support of all true Americans and needs to spy on the radical leftist eco-vegan-homo-terrorists to protect us from our enemies, who are all around us and kill babies and burn churches.


GravatarOkay, worked five minutes on a post,
and it wound up on a dead thread.

Color me egotistical, but I'm
gonna post it again.

The only media elite who ever answered my email was John Gibson, who offered
to debate me on the War On Christmas. He never anwered again, though. Oh,
well.

Apart from blog exchanges with
Crazy Andy Sullivan (which I've
posted here before, and I'm way
proud of) and Doughy Pantload
(a story I'll tell some other time),

the only media elite figure who
ever responded to me was noted
shmuck John Podhoretz.

He took exception to my opinion
that it was Orwellian for Republicans
to refer to offensive missiles
as "Peacekeepers." On the theory
that their warheads would thus
have to be called peaceheads.


He also objected to my characterizing
the Branch Davidians as murderous
theocratic psychos and child abusers
who any fool could have seen would
immolate themselves. He particularly
didin't like when I suggested that
the Davidians shooting first when
the Feds came to arrest them was
perhaps un-American. He didn't agree
that the proper response should have
been to post bail and call their
lawyer.


What a swine.

Thin-skinned, too.


Thanks, all!


Gravatarah, the older i get, the better i usta be...
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WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar(aka


Word, brutha.

The stories I tell my kid....


Gravatar mostly i worry about the panda cubs of mass destruction

Totally. They're so fucking cute, people go right up to them and BOOOOOOOM!

How'd that bonfire in the back forty work out?

Bonfire? I was going to take my creme brulee torch to the shit _in situ_! I've been advised by my insurance company that such an approach will void my policy. Instead, I've been aggressively ignoring the problem today, hoping it will go away.


GravatarEven making fun of the trolls, we make more sense than they do!


GravatarHow else are we going to keep America free if we don't spy on those freedom-hating gay college groups, anti-American Amish anti-war protestors and terrorist-loving grannies? These people are a danger to national security, don't you get it?

We're Republicans and we don't have to explain ourselves to anyone - we're above the law and just go and wrack up some more debt on your credit cards so that Bush can get some good economic numbers, okay?

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Wow, now I need to go take a shower to get the temporary wingnut stench off.


Gravatarfat Pudgy says,
"Bush, when making important decisions, relies not on pussy studies and advisors, but rather on his gut, a methodology which simply does not fit into the 72 hr legal way"

Yeah, to have to get warrants and stuff means less time to tee off. "Now watch this drive."


GravatarI'm sure that sounds much lovelier than it really was. *sobs with envy*
Marcia Brady ∞


It is ALWAYS raining in Paris.
The French just have good PR agents.


GravatarBecause of the Liberals.


GravatarI thought the Branch Davidians WERE assholes, actually!


GravatarTroutski - no worries, mate. Glad ya liked it!


GravatarJeasus never had to clear anything with FISA. Moonrats, pfft.


GravatarHere's how it works:

1. Michael Moore is a big fat guy
2. Freedom is on the march
3. Turning the corner
4. Known knowns
5. Liberation
6. Sadaam
7. Them
8. Oil
9. Us
.
TelltaleHeart


You forgot "Last throes."


GravatarAfter spending the last several weeks in a war-torn land across the Atlantic, I'm just now getting fully caught up on the news. Today, I had the most intense deja vu experience. This is Nixon all over again. The arrogance, the chemical dependency, whispered threats of military coup. I knew history repeated itself, but I didn't think it would happen so soon. I guess they've forgotten just how mean a bunch of us angry liberals can be.

In the words of the great James Osterberg: "It's nineteen sixty-nine, OK, and it's war across the USA"

Anyone know where the '08 convention's going to be held?


GravatarThink what would have happend if Bush had had to get some silly warrant on the morning of 911?


GravatarI even spell like a wingnut


GravatarWoodyGuthrie'sGuitar:

I really need to go to Paris
before I die.

I suspect I would do very well --
the French just love Woody Allen
NY Jewish nerdy types.

Plus -- all French women are
beautiful, including the ones
that aren't.


GravatarFlory--there is a Metro stop on the #7 line called Poissoniere. We stopped, just for the hell of it. Nothing there, but, well, you know.


Gravatar"Islamofascists, blah blah blah,"
"Hitchens says says, blah blah blah,"
"9-11 changed everything, blah, blah, blah,"
"Oceans dont protect us anymore blah blah blah,"
"Michael Moore is fat, blah, blah, blah,"
"Bush is a genuis, blah, blah, blah,"
"You really want to bone Ann Coulter but cant, thats why you hate her, blah, blah, blah"
"Im a fat pudgy conservative but I watch South Park so Im hip, blah, blah, blah,"
"I wet my bed, killed insects when young and had a domineering mother, I am not a serial killer, but I am a republican, blah, blah, blah"
"Im a doughy soft republican with soft hands, but I realte to white working people better than you liberals, blah blah blah"


Gravatari'm an un-american asshole and i don't care what fuckwit does as long as he kills 'dem islamofascists.

lie to the american public to start an illegal war... well, it's kill'n islamofascists, fine by me.

circumvent the geneva conventions, rewrite the law to permit the president to engage in torture... well, it's torturing islamofascists, fine by me.

illegally spy on american citizens? so long as he's catch'n islamofascists. while he's at it maybe he could round up some of you fuck'n moonbats as well. which will probably be the next phase of the pogrom.


Gravatar"Explain to me, in your best wingnutnese, how exactly it damages national security to reveal the fact that we spy on people without secret warrants instead of the fact that we spy on people with secret warrants?"

YOUR MISSING THE POINT, YOU STOOPID LIEBRAL! The point is it was treason to tell people we were spying...the terraists didn't know that until the story broke, and now they are smarter and not using the phone. Don't tell them we are now opening mail, because that's how they communicate, and if you do they'll stop sending letters and we'll lose the war again.


GravatarI suspect I would do very well --
the French just love Woody Allen
NY Jewish nerdy types.

Steve Simels


can you do Jerry Lewis?


GravatarFlory--there is a Metro stop on the #7 line called Poissoniere. We stopped, just for the hell of it. Nothing there, but, well, you know.

I hope you got a picture of yourself in front of the sign.


Oh, and welcome back!


GravatarBecause he knows how hard it is to put food on your family?


GravatarOT, but now i'm scared (from wed Tha Guardian). It's Syriana!

Secret services say Iran is trying to assemble a nuclear missile

Document seen by Guardian details web of front companies and middlemen

Ian Cobain and Ian Traynor
Wednesday January 4, 2006
The Guardian

The Iranian government has been successfully scouring Europe for the sophisticated equipment needed to develop a nuclear bomb, according to the latest western intelligence assessment of the country's weapons programmes.

Scientists in Tehran are also shopping for parts for a ballistic missile capable of reaching Europe, with "import requests and acquisitions ... registered almost daily", the report seen by the Guardian concludes.

The warning came as Iran raised the stakes in its dispute with the United States and the European Union yesterday by notifying the International Atomic Energy Authority that it intended to resume nuclear fuel research next week. Tehran has refused to rule out a return to attempts at uranium enrichment, the key to the development of a nuclear weapon.

http://tinyurl.com/dc59s


GravatarSteve--you HAVE to go to Paris. Someday soon, too!


GravatarBecause if we use warrants to hunt terrorists, only terrorists will have warrants.


GravatarI thought the Branch Davidians WERE assholes, actually!
Terry C, Thinks Bush Sux | 01.03.06 - 10:08 pm | #


Of course they were.

They don't get a pass for
being cop-killers, however.

And anybody who had seen Jim
Jones and the Peoples Temple
could have
predicted their self-immolation
months in advance.

Koresh was just another peckerwood
false messiah. He's currently rotting
in hell.


GravatarLet me explain the math:

If there were 49 Republican members of Congress implicated in a scandal and 51 Democrats, it would be a Democratic scandal.

49 Republicans and maybe 2 Democrats? Bipartisan scandal.


GravatarBecause gays want to marry.


Gravatar YOUR ALL LOOSER POOPYHEADS!

No, no, I took some Metamucil.


GravatarEli--thanks. That panda cub pic is adorable! We saw a dog that we swore was a panda puppy, but the owner assured us it was au naturel.


GravatarMaybe it has alot to do with the fact that people feel like the government has the judges in their pockets already, so why not bypass the bull and be more honest with ourselves?


GravatarFucking A man. And I really thought this post was going to be a real snoozer.


GravatarRight. How many newspapers does it take to screw in the lightbulb? Answ: None. They're too busy screwing the public.
I mean you would think at least ONE national paper could take a bitch slap swipe at the pres, challenge that "see how dumb I can be and you won't dare touch me!" kind of talk.


GravatarHalf-time, and Penn State has only moderately redeemed itself. They are, however, a second-half team.


GravatarBTW, the French get 'Desperate Housewives,' just in case anyone needs additional motivation to go.


GravatarThink what would have happend if Bush had had to get some silly warrant on the morning of 911?
Tim Finnegan



He wouldn't have been able to finish reading "My Pet Goat"?


GravatarIt's the paperwork stupid.


Gravatarcan;t yopu see the terrorists want liberal democrat activists judges controlloing the legal system aands letting foetus be aborted before marrying foetus' of the same sex!!


Gravatarcan you do Jerry Lewis?
focus | Email | 01.03.06 - 10:11 pm | #


You haven't lived until you've
heard my imitation of Jerry
doing "Lady" by Styx!!!!


GravatarRight. How many newspapers does it take to screw in the lightbulb? Answ: None. They're too busy screwing the public.



Too busy sucking Bush off.


GravatarThink what would have happend if Bush had had to get some silly warrant on the morning of 911?

So let me get this straight: It's just before 9/11. Rover runs into the Oval Office to interrupt Bush's bowl of Kix yelling something about Osama Bin Laden on the phone to the ticket counter at Laguardia. "They're gonna drive those jets into the World Trade Center.", he screams. Bush, steely-eyed as ever, finishes chewing 100 times the way his momma beat into him, and says: "Wait, Rover-oo, we can't be sendin' the Fibbies in 'cause we didn't get no warrant. Oh well, turn on CNN, this is gonna be one hell of a show."
Is that about how you see it, Tim m'boy?


GravatarAgain from The Guardian, not some shitty Murdoch Paper!

"It concludes that Syria and Pakistan have also been buying technology and chemicals needed to develop rocket programmes and to enrich uranium. It outlines the role played by Russia in the escalating Middle East arms build-up, and examines the part that dozens of Chinese front companies have played in North Korea's nuclear weapons programme."

American friends, the draft is coming!


Gravatarthe French just love Woody Allen
NY Jewish nerdy types.


And the French racists say that Africa starts at the Pyranees.

idiots.


Gravatar"Explain to me, in your best wingnutnese, how exactly it damages national security to reveal the fact that we spy on people without secret warrants instead of the fact that we spy on people with secret warrants?"

The answer is analogous with every other neo con bullsheet answer when explaining why they break the rules....

Falls under the "dog ball" theory.

So in response to why it's important to not need a warrant and why neo cons bypass the law in my best wingnut rhetoric...

As for ignoring the rule of law ?

It's due to the same reason a dog licks his balls..."because they can."


GravatarAnyone know where the '08 convention's going to be held?
Pope-on-a-Rope


I wish the GOP would hold THEIRS in Baghdad.


GravatarSteve, one really nice thing about France--

but europe in general--is that women do not seem to regard maturity in a man as a handicap...
.


GravatarClearly there's an Al Qaeda mole on the FISA court. Lil' Tex (I saw him once by the way! *swoon*) just took the necessary precautions to keep those rascally activist judges from spilling the beans to Osama.


GravatarYou haven't lived until you've
heard my imitation of Jerry
doing "Lady" by Styx!!!!

steve simels



(whistles) just (whistles)


GravatarCoo Coo! We don't choose the warrants we would like to have...

Coo Coo!

/wingnutteese


GravatarSteve, one really nice thing about France--

but europe in general--is that women do not seem to regard maturity in a man as a handicap...


Well, that clears up my retirement plans.


GravatarYou haven't lived until you've
heard my imitation of Jerry
doing "Lady" by Styx!!!!


You REALLY haven't lived until you've heard Cartman sing Styx's "Come Sail Away".

If you're interested, shoot me an email and I'll hook you up.


GravatarAre you actually asking trolls to be rational? Good Luck
Keystone Blues


That's like asking a can of soup to drive a car.


GravatarNope, Pope. He's the one who saved us all, that terrible, terrible day.


GravatarThe Moustache of Understanding finds a quote he likes:

"The greatest threat to America's role in the world today is not China. It's Medicare."


GravatarChripes:

Watch Fred Eper/Gary Ruppert come on and congratulate us for "finally coming to our senses"?????


GravatarLissen LIE-berals:

You Liebruls are the truly Nazis because you make youngsters read Howard Zinn in college.

Wankin to Malkin I plan on getting laid very soon, I have a plan to get laid.


GravatarThink what would have happend if Bush had had to get some silly warrant on the morning of 911?

He was too busy flying all over the country, looking out the airplane window


GravatarIt's all very logical; it just needs a little doublethink to be clear as day.


GravatarLiberal bias.


GravatarLil' Tex (I saw him once by the way! *swoon*)



L'il Tex.....all the way from Connecticut.


GravatarAmerican friends, the draft is coming!
Plum P | Email | Homepage | 01.03.06 - 10:15 pm | #


You betcha.

And then welcome to the return
of 1968 and blood in the streets.

College kids aren't
gonna sit still for
being turned into cannon fodder...

not in this day and age.....


GravatarWankin to Malkin I plan on getting laid very soon, I have a plan to get laid.

"I have a secret plan to end my virginity."


GravatarFat Pudge, you saving your allowance? heard her prices are really low - like her intelligence.


(I guess if this is Troll Heaven, I can be St Peter for a bit)


Gravatarredhead

You lurking?

Come out and play.
alls OK.

.


GravatarDennis Weaver's floorin' it. He yelled,' ya can't beat me on the grade'. This is the final showdown.


GravatarWankin to Malkin I plan on getting laid very soon, I have a plan to get laid.

"I have a secret plan to end my virginity."
Eli


"I have cunning plan, Mr. B!"


GravatarJust a quick skim thru, but I don't see any TrOoLz. I'm shocked, shocked!
Not actually disappointed, though, I must say...


GravatarWoody--I noticed that women of a certain age are treated with great respect in France.


Gravatardefinitive:

Clinton Did It.


GravatarNo, no, after fucking Woody, Evalyn swam and honked. Don't you people ever get laid?


GravatarCollege kids aren't
gonna sit still for
being turned into cannon fodder...

not in this day and age.....
steve simels



Here's hoping the College Repugs all get sent first!


GravatarSteve, as the father of one of these kids: I can say unequivocally that I am adamently opposed to the draft. But it surely would kick their damned smugness in the ass.


Gravatarwhat's a matter trolls can't get it up? must be performance-anxiety...


GravatarIf you're interested, shoot me an email and I'll hook you up.
Pope-on-a-Rope | Email | Homepage | 01.03.06 - 10:17 pm | #


Very interested, but my e-mail's
down til tomorrow.

Oh wait, my address is posted
below....


GravatarDoozer--we have trolls?


GravatarIt's ok. The superpowers don't work on anything that's yellow. Use a yellow phone.

Oops! It is ok that I said that?


Gravatarand then how will shoelimpy cry that he has been banned for the gazillionth time?


GravatarNope, Pope. He's the one who saved us all, that terrible, terrible day.
Tim Finnegan


I'll always cherish the memory of Bush crawling out on the wing of Air Force One with a tommy-gun and personally blasting the other 50 hijacked planes into a fine mist, so they wouldn't accidentally crash on any babies or puppies.


GravatarWankin to Malkin I plan on getting laid very soon, I have a plan to get laid.
Fat pudgy conservative


Malkin = the ANTI Viagra.


Gravatarshorter tom friedman:

Granny has to die!


Gravatarnot in this day and age.....
steve simels

noooo! Canada doesn't want your over pampered youth! (cause like in New-Orleans, the poor americans will be stuck becoming " de la chair ŕ canon" while the rich kids will come here, we're not in 68 anymore steve!)


Gravatar Anyone know where the '08 convention's going to be held?
Pope-on-a-Rope

I wish the GOP would hold THEIRS in Baghdad.


Would be about as symbolically apt as holding it in NYC, another city that highlights their "success" at fighting terrorism...


GravatarWankin to Malkin I plan on getting laid very soon, I have a plan to get laid.


Someone's talkin' Malkin caulkin'! Layin' a bead on the wingnut queen. Oooooh, intern me, baby!


GravatarBecause now when evil people want to communicate they will say things like:

"Out West, where you vacation, the aspens will already be turning. They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them. Come back to work—and life."

It will take years to figure out what the hell that means - but you can bet your ass it is some seriously fucked up shit.

Aspen - skiing? Snow? -- ah, Cocaine!
Clusters - cluster bombs? terrorist cells?
Roots - Ancestors? Bush family dynasty? Skull & Bones?
"Come" back to work, not "Go" back to work? Does Judith work for the Times or the Administration?


GravatarGee.... it seems to me if he needed a warrant on 9/11 it was too late anyway. The warrant would be needed like when Harriet handed him his PDF and Condi said "Oh, don't worry about that OBL guy. Jeesh, he was Clinton's bitch. Ours is Saddam."


GravatarWe're fighting fanatics who chop people's heads off and you pussies are worried about a little unwarranted wiretapping?

Get some perspective. Would you rather have your phone tapped, or have your head chopped off? The choice is yours.

9/11 changed everything.

Why do you hate the troops?

Clenis!


GravatarBla-bla-blah, why I've been called a troll more than you've had hot dinners, nubie! Bla-bla-blah.


GravatarDoc, was that when he ran to Arkansas?


GravatarBecause 9/11 changed everything. Also, Bush is a robust executive. Finally, if we don't hand over Social Security, our Homeland will be jeopardized.


GravatarGeorge Bush had to act outside the bounds of the so-called "laws" of Congress because Congress is full of homosexual, god-hating, freedom hating, terrorist supporting, traitor Democrats.

We are not a nation of laws; we are a nation of Godly men, as personified by George Bush. Disagreeing with George Bush is hating God and America. It is treason.

The entire collection of disgusting America haters in government should be taken somewhere and made to tell us what we already know; they conspired with evil doers to commit treason.

We do not need these traitors. We know the penalty for treason in War time. We don't need trials, for God, through George Bush has spoken. They should be immediately executed.

There should be only one party and anyone who ever had anything to do with the traitors should be taken somewhere and made to confess their treason. And then executed.

We must preserve freedom and keep it pure by not allowing the unclean to touch it. We must hide it away to keep it safe. All must fear the Jackboot of Freedom. Fear and Terror will keep Freedom and Peace safe.

And then there are the traitorous women who are the source of all evil, according to the Bible. We only need them until God gives us a way of making God Fearing and Obedient Soldiers of God without women.

We have the technical ability to cause the Rapture using nuclear weapons. We could all go to heaven - those of us whom are Chosen - and sit by the hand of God and torture the evil for all eternity.

This is pretty effortless. If you want some more, just ask.

Writing a toll or a Conservative Republican screed certainly isn't very difficult.

Let me get back to work.


GravatarWoody--I noticed that women of a certain age are treated with great respect in France.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere


Yet another instance where Europe has it all over this country!


GravatarSallyH:

Did I hear a rumor that you were
on vacation in La Belle France
last week?

Or was I hallucinating.....?


GravatarWankin to Malkin I plan on getting laid very soon, I have a plan to get laid.

Custer had a plan too....


Gravatar Doozer--we have trolls?

No, while you were in Frogland, all the trolls apologized for being complete asshats and vowed to fight Bush and the GOP for the next 3 years. It was quite a touching event. Shoulda been here.


GravatarMalkin = the ANTI Viagra.
Terry C, Thinks Bush Sux




Malkin, Saltpeter in a Pant Suit


Gravatar Think what would have happend if Bush had had to get some silly warrant on the morning of 911?

If PDB titled, "bin Laden Determined to Attack the USA." wasn't enough to get Bushs' attention, a mere shift supervisor schmoe in the NSA would by saying he found something in one of 500+ phone taps????

Gawd you wingers will believe anything as long as your Nanny Bush says so.


GravatarCollege kids aren't
gonna sit still for
being turned into cannon fodder...

not in this day and age.....
steve simels


All those manly young republicans will be lining up at the Canadian border.


GravatarLiberal Elitists ...

Get your fabulous liberal bums on a train, plane, or automobile and get to NY to see "Sweeney Todd," which is fan-fucking-tastic!

And by the way (said in Veruca Salt voice):

Bush presidency: FIERY WRECK!


GravatarPlum P,

You would like my kid: big, puck-carrying defenseman with an attitude.


GravatarMalkin -
The only person who could give Philipino whores a bad name


GravatarI do miss Tom Friedman's hideous mixed metaphors.

I mean, nobody ever warns me anymore about how Indonesian math whizzes want to eat my kids' lunch for breakfast.


GravatarCollege kids aren't
gonna sit still for
being turned into cannon fodder...

not in this day and age.....
steve simels


What, you don't think Congress'll protect the college-bound scions & scionettes of the bestest and brightest? No "other priorities" will be afforded them? They'll find excuses for deferments the '60s and '70s never dreamed of...


GravatarThinking for yourself is elitist and unAmerican!


GravatarGranny has to die!

But not before she's served her purpose - handing down all of her secret recipes to the wife and girl children and has taught them how to wash clothes by beating them against rocks down by the river.


I'm sorry, but I'm watching Hercules and the Captive Women (MST3K) - and the Uranus jokes are er . . . coming fast and furious.


GravatarDWD:

I really am convinced that when
the draft happens -- which it
will have to to, unless the
Bushies are insane enough to
believe they can defeat Syria
and Iran solely through air
power (sound familiar?) --
this country will erupt like a
powder keg.

1968 will look, as I've
ranted before, like a PTA bake
sale by comparison.


GravatarYou guys are maybe already aware of this, but apparently they found the body of one of those miners- no sign of the others tho'- for whatever that's worth.

What always burns me about 'outsourcing' is not the hours or the wages, but that they don't provide a safe workplace or protect the environment. & of course, since the earth is 'flat', our workers get the same shitty treatment, so's the Almighty Stockholder gets to see Big Returns.


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a galaxy-size black hole?


GravatarWell, the FISA court is just too much paperwork. We should trust our dear leader, Bush, chosen by God to protect us from terrorists, Democrats, and other enemies of the state. OK, Bush wasn't chosen by God, he was chosen by Rhenquist, who has joined Him on his right hand.


GravatarXiminez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

[The Inquisition exits]


GravatarHave any trollz responded to this most delightfully-phrased question?

shawk wins the non-troll response.


GravatarWriting a toll or a Conservative Republican screed certainly isn't very difficult.

Let me get back to work.
shawk


Shawk:

Your spelling and grammar was way too good!


Gravatarhalftime, penn state game...who is this hippityhoppity no talent?

jeebus, music today fucking sucks.


Gravatarhalftime, penn state game...who is this hippityhoppity no talent?

jeebus, music today fucking sucks.


GravatarI'm sorry, but I'm watching Hercules and the Captive Women (MST3K) - and the Uranus jokes are er . . . coming fast and furious.

I don't care!

(Hello, thank you.)



I am totally going to need some kind of deprogramming now...


GravatarSteve--I was indeed in La Belle France, and I didn't touch a computer, read a newspaper or listen to the news the entire time!


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a galaxy-size black hole?
Eli


Up With People!!


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a galaxy-size black hole?


Just about the worst exhibition of lip-synching I've ever seen. Of course, the sound is so muddy, it don't matter.


Gravatar you don't think Congress'll protect the college-bound scions & scionettes
of the bestest and brightest? No "other priorities" will be afforded them? They'll
find excuses for deferments the '60s and '70s never dreamed of...
Doozer, (truncated) | Email | 01.03.06 - 10:26 pm | #


Perhaps, but it won't fly.

Not like it did back in the day....
IMHO.....


GravatarXiminez: NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.

[The Inquisition exits]
All Apologies


"The Comfy Chair..........????!!!"


GravatarGet your fabulous liberal bums on a train, plane, or automobile and get to NY to see "Sweeney Todd," which is fan-fucking-tastic!

I was just theeeeeeerrrrreeeee!!!!!

Waaaaaaaahhhhhhhh.....


GravatarCuster had a plan too....

Yeah, his was to leave the Gatling guns behind...


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a galaxy-size black hole?



Well, the one with Janet Jackson's titty was a welcome change!


GravatarWoody--I noticed that women of a certain age are treated with great respect in France.
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere


a woman's beauty is highly regarded there, it seems to me, regardless of the time it has occupied to develop.

and you are a beautiful woman, mon cher...
.


GravatarHere's hoping the College Repugs all get sent first!
Terry C, Thinks Bush Sux | 01.03.06 - 10:21 pm | #

Yep, the DYPRs!

Double Yellow Pantsload Republikkkans

(Double yellow 'cuz they holler "Freedom isn't free" while running from fighting for it overseas AND in the US as the Constitution gets shredded.)


GravatarJust about the worst exhibition of lip-synching I've ever seen. Of course, the sound is so muddy, it don't matter.

WhoTF is Sierra?

Oh well, at least she was *cuter* than Ashlee Simpson...


GravatarYeah, his was to leave the Gatling guns behind...
NTodd, Gold Leader




but take the canoli


GravatarI do miss Tom Friedman's hideous mixed metaphors.

He should be so embarrassed that his vacation is permanent.

But, sadly, he'll be back.


GravatarI am totally going to need some kind of deprogramming now...

nope. once you're part of the cult, it's a lifetime commitment.


Gravatarredhead

You lurking?

Come out and play.
alls OK.

.
ag_ve

Shit! Melissa just walked up and as we were talking she saw this.

Took 5 mins of 'splaining

.


GravatarYou would like my kid: big, puck-carrying defenseman with an attitude.
DWD

I would! Ok, he can come in Canada if there's a draft. We always needs good players. And we could fing him a nice girl from Manitoba who could give you some canadian grandchildren!


Gravatarsallyh,

how were the french people to you, friendly, kind, did you sense any anti-american feeling?


Gravatar"The Comfy Chair..........????!!!"
Terry C, Thinks Bush Sux

(don't let them know we know)


GravatarCome on guys this is easy.

For years activist courts, aided by liberal interest groups like the ACLU, have been quietly working under the veil of the judiciary, like thieves in the night, to rob us of our Christian heritage and our religious freedoms and now even our ability to protect ourselves against Islamic terrorists. Federal judges have systematically grabbed power, usurping the constitutional authority that resides in the other two branches of government and, ultimately, in the American people. Can we put the safety of the nation in the hands of an institution that is leading the assault on traditional marriage?

(with thanks to the FRC)


GravatarSallyH:

Sounds like fun.

Paris?

And with Monsieur, I hope?


GravatarNow, if there were a plane with it's landing gear stuck, what would the news networks do? It would be an overload for them.


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a galaxy-size black hole?
Eli


That was rhetorical, right?

Oh...but just wait for the Super Bowl!!!!


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a galaxy-size black hole?
Eli

Up With People!!
Marcia Brady ∞


The 1991 (?) Gulf War cheerleading Super Bowl with Whitney Houston (pre-crack whore days) caterwauling "America The Beautiful"?????


Gravatarnope. once you're part of the cult, it's a lifetime commitment.

Gooble gobble...


GravatarOh the midnight, the morning, the middle of day
Is the same to the miner who labors away.
Where the demons of death often come by surprise,
One fall of the slate and you're buried alive.

Where it's dark as a dungeon
And damp as the dew
Where the danger's double
And pleasures are few
Where the rain never falls
And the sun never shines
Where it's dark as a dungeon
Way down in the mine.

Merle Travis


GravatarThey should let a bunch of 12 year olds play flag football for twenty minutes at half time. That would be more entertaining than most games - no refs needed.

Two 50 yard games at the same time.


GravatarOn topic, here goes:

I suppose you surrendercrats would have the president tap the terrorists on the shoulder and ask their permission to prevent them from carrying out another 9/11. Maybe you traitors should draft Saddam to run in 08.

That's about all I got in me tonight.


GravatarDoozer--we have trolls?
Sallyh,Grandmere Poissonniere


Not this thread, it would seem. Methinks Atrios has perfected the vaccine at last. I forsee a Nobel prize in Bloganic Chemistry!


GravatarWe're listening to them over here so we don't have to listen to them over there!

They would never expect that without a press leak!!!


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a galaxy-size black hole?
Eli


I'll take 'When Pigs Fly' for a thousand dollars Alex.


GravatarBecause it's what Jesus would do.


GravatarTrollin', trollin', trollin'...
Keep those wingnuts movin'
Trollin', trollin', trollin'
BACKSIDE!
Don't try to understand 'em
Just slap 'em, smack 'em, brand 'em
Soon they'll be drownin' in their lies...
Move 'em on, head 'em up,
Head 'em up, move 'em out,
Move 'em on, head 'em out Backside!
Set 'em out, ride 'em in
Ride 'em in, let 'em out,
Cut 'em out, ride 'em in Backside!!!


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a galaxy-size black hole?
Eli


A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, they had these things called marching bands, composed of many young, talented musicians who worked their asses off and played music while marching on the field, apparently because they enjoyed it and loved what they did.

Well, Corporate America couldn't figure out how to wring a dollar out of that, so now we have Mariah Carey lip-synching the Coca-Cola theme.

(full disclosure - I played HS football and wasn't in the band)


GravatarI was indeed in La Belle France, and I didn't touch a computer, read a newspaper or listen to the news the entire time!

You and a good part of America.

Welcome back!


Gravatarbut take the canoli

Oddly, 'canoli' is the Lakota word for 'scalp'.

Paris?

And with Monsieur, I hope?


Several million Monsieurs, probably.


GravatarCan someone point out where the deadfall and tiger pits are when the trolls aren't looking?

Wouldn't want a nasty accident now?


GravatarThe key to trolls is to undertstand that everything is a "scenario" with them:

Torture is fine because what if a terrorist had a bomb and would blow it up unless you tortured him.

Warrantless searches are cool because what if you needed to search for a ticking atomic bomb and didn't have time to get a search warrant.

Attacking a country which has no intention of attacking us is fine because what if they had had such an intention. Killing thousands in the process is groovy because what if they had tried to kill us.

Et Cetera.
.


Gravatarsallyh,

how were the french people to you, friendly, kind, did you sense any anti-american feeling?
anonymous


I don't know about France, but when my daughter was in England, the attitude was not Anti-American but Anti-Bush.


GravatarPerhaps, but it won't fly.

Not like it did back in the day....
IMHO.....
steve simels


Dunno steve. All the draft proposals that've been floated have an 'alternate service' provision.

Don't think too many kids from Harlem are gonna end up in 'alternate service'.


GravatarAnd I am personally starting the war on Groundhogs Day today............. It's a WOODCHUCK you heathenist bastards! You will all burn in hell!


GravatarGod, Marica, I thought I was the only one who had nightmares about UP WITH PEOPLE. (They tried to send them my conservative college and no one would go)


GravatarSteve--I was indeed with Monsieur, and we were evil souls. We decided not to call anyone and let them know if we were alive the entire time.


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a
galaxy-size black hole?


Please -- I'd pay good money for
a DVD of the Michael Jackson
"Save the Children" halftime show
with the mountain of kids from
the year before the
pedophile scandal broke.

Creepiest real-life video in history.


GravatarHalftime shows are for feeding the muts and taking a piss call.


GravatarTrollin', trollin', trollin'...
Keep those wingnuts movin'
Trollin', trollin', trollin'
BACKSIDE!
Don't try to understand 'em
Just slap 'em, smack 'em, brand 'em
Soon they'll be drownin' in their lies...
Move 'em on, head 'em up,
Head 'em up, move 'em out,
Move 'em on, head 'em out Backside!
Set 'em out, ride 'em in
Ride 'em in, let 'em out,
Cut 'em out, ride 'em in Backside!!!
Fred Woolsey




Gravatar(Woody: it's "ma chčre", unless sallyh had a sexchange over there)


Sallyh! Please tell us, what splendid things did you eat!


Gravatarshawk wins the non-troll response.

shawk has many fine responses, indeed. But the following was prime shawk, perhaps the best shawk ever (or at least in recent memory):

Do you wonder if the NY Times might be sitting on the Congressional wiretap speculation / story?

Might the recent actions of the Congress suggest that many members know about Congressional wiretapping?

Have you ever seen a entire knotty pine kitchen dinette set shoved up an "elected" official's ass?
Are you having a Happier New Year now?
shawk | Email | 12.31.05 - 11:24 pm | #


GravatarHas there ever been a bowlgame halftime show that did not suck like a galaxy-size black hole?
Eli


Well, the first Super Bowl had the 20 ft bobblehead dolls with steam coming out of their mouths. That would be entertaining for about 25 seconds, anyway.


GravatarShawk, that's an excellent translation from the German. Very, say, BMW. Vee haf Vays...


GravatarSallyh! Please tell us, what splendid things did you eat!
Plum P



All they talk about here are food, sex and partying!

/jealous troll


GravatarWhy does ABC have three commentators sitting in an empty stadium? When did they come up with this brainstorm?


GravatarHooray for everything


GravatarA long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, they had these things called marching bands, composed of many young, talented musicians who worked their asses off and played music while marching on the field, apparently because they enjoyed it and loved what they did.

My alma mater in action...


GravatarThey should let a bunch of 12 year olds play flag football for twenty minutes at half time. That would be more entertaining than most games - no refs needed.

Two 50 yard games at the same time.
Tom


When I was a lad the local college would let us shoot baskets during halftime of the hoops games. I suspect the sight of a three-foot-eleven boy trying to even hit the rim was quite entertaining.


GravatarMalkin -
The only person who could give Philipino whores a bad name
Keystone Blues

well spent many a week in the islands, don't remember calling anyone a bad name.


GravatarWhen did they come up with this brainstorm?
Keystone Blues



it's their "preivew" of USC/Tejas
from the rose Bowl


GravatarBack not too long ago the FISA court was an evil thing.

Now we wish for it to have control!

Same with the CIA!
Who would have thought we/I would be rooting for them?

What a world!

.


GravatarBack not too long ago the FISA court was an evil thing.

Now we wish for it to have control!

Same with the CIA!
Who would have thought we/I would be rooting for them?

What a world!

.


GravatarHave you ever seen a entire knotty pine kitchen dinette set shoved up an "elected" official's ass?
Are you having a Happier New Year now?
shawk | Email | 12.31.05 - 11:24 pm | #



I laughed for twenty minutes after reading that one.

And I would PAY to SEE that.


I also liked the one someone posted last night about Bush taking a shit on the White House lawn and Tweety going on about how great it is!


GravatarDo you wonder if the NY Times might be sitting on the Congressional wiretap speculation / story?

Might the recent actions of the Congress suggest that many members know about Congressional wiretapping?

Have you ever seen a entire knotty pine kitchen dinette set shoved up an "elected" official's ass?
Are you having a Happier New Year now?
shawk | Email | 12.31.05 - 11:24 pm | #


I remember it well. Classic.


GravatarYou moronic froth-holes and your ridiculous attachment to that Constitution is nothing short of pagan idolatry. True Christians only answer to one judge.


GravatarTrue Christians only answer to one judge.
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wapner?


GravatarMalkin -
The only person who could give Philipino whores a bad name
Keystone Blues



Shot through the heart
and she's to blame
She gives ho's
A bad name


GravatarPlease read my blog.


GravatarSpeaking of creepy, I was told today Tom Cruise bought his own personal ultrasound machine to scan the offspring.... I still don't know whether to laugh or be very very scared for that poor girl he married.


GravatarEli--Your panda pic and explanation of cuteness reminded me of a Stephen Jay Gould article of the evolution of Mickey Mouse, who was distinctly more rat-like when first introduced. Over the year his snout got shorter, his body rounder, his eyes bigger, etc--all signs of juvenility.

The word for falsely youthful appearance is "neoteny," and it might be why dogs are generally more like wolf cubs than like wolves.

Humans were willing to tolerate scavenging playful, short-snouted dogs but not the predatory cousins who looked like predators. It's now generally thought that humans didn't domesticate wolves into dogs, but that dogs evolved to look and act like something humans wouldn't kill on sight..


GravatarTroll crap is pretty much troll crap.
French butter, though ... Couldn't bring home any French butter, though--it's considered an agricultural product

You can get it this way (you will need a friend who has cattle)

Milk a cow -- an Angus will do; a Jersey or Guernsey is better; avoid Holsteins if possible as their milk is naturally very low in butterfat.

How you do this is approach the cow with some sweet feed; get the cow's head into the stanchion; latch the stanchion; take some water that feels pleasantly warm on your hands and lightly wash the udder. Set the clean empty bucket you want the milk to go into under the udders; grasp a teat in each hand and roll your thumb against your fingers to pull the milk downward, squeezing. It will squirt into the bucket. Be gentle or the cow will kick you into the middle of next Tuesday.

Pour the warm milk thru a Kendall paper filter into a freshly-scalded crock jar. Cover it with wax paper and refrigerate it overnight.

In the morning set the crock on the table. Get a scrupulously clean ladle and dip along one edge, lifting the cream into a clean jar. Leave as much milk behind as possible.

Put the skimmed milk back in the fridge, covered as before. It will taste good and keep well for two or three days, but you are probably not ready for its richness, particularly if you leave a few streaks of the thin bottom cream on the top and stir it back up before drinking.

To make about a pound of butter put about a pint of cream out and let it set overnight at room temperature. It will sour. You should use a churn, but if you don't have one you can use a clean peanut butter or mayo jar with a tight fitting lid.

Tighten the lid very securely and shake the jar vigorously; this will take about 15 minutes in a warm room or longer in a cold room. The cream will "turn" ... (2 B continued)


GravatarPlease?


GravatarTrue Christians only answer to one judge.
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wapner?
olexicon, arbitrary carp


Judge Judy.


GravatarOh boy. Now we have Aerosmith. My fuck runneth over.


GravatarPlease -- I'd pay good money for
a DVD of the Michael Jackson
"Save the Children" halftime show


I remember watching that show in horrified fascination.


GravatarFunction Null (Judge Marilyn - my wife's favorite, she thinks it is real. I have tried to explain that it a weird sort of quasi reality thing, but she still watches. I would rather have whiplash . . . oh wait, I do. Scratch that.)


GravatarHaving Aerosmith play at these halftimes is like the Flyers playing that Kate Smith rendition of "God Bless America" - except most people realized Kate was dead..... And Aerosmith should be. Fucking Zombies.


Gravatarjudge chuck wepner?


GravatarThere is evil lurking, there are lurkers that are evil, there are evildoers that lurk, have lurked and will continue to lurk, and the evil lurking of these evil lurkers must be stopped.


GravatarHeh! Look at those Gay People getting married, over there.

(runs away)


GravatarOther Sarah--you make me happy to be a city girl


GravatarThere's a lot of non-troll program related activities going on here.

STAY ON TOPIC.


GravatarThe word for falsely youthful appearance is "neoteny," and it might be why dogs are generally more like wolf cubs than like wolves.

What's the expression? Neoteny recapitulates Eurodisney?


GravatarSpeaking of creepy, I was told today Tom Cruise bought his own personal ultrasound machine to scan the offspring.... I still don't know whether to laugh or be very very scared for that poor girl he married.
nick carraway


The AMA is really pissed about that.

An amateur (particularly a fucking nut like Cruise) should not be playing around that kind of stuff.

And WHERE is HER brain?????/


Gravatarthats some fine yes covers by Stanford's marching band


GravatarShot through the heart
and she's to blame
She gives ho's
A bad name
Terry C, Thinks Bush Sux | 01.03.06 - 10:36 pm | #


Thank you -- just spewed elitist
chardonnay on my monitor.


Gravatar"True Christians only answer to one judge."

Alito?
.


GravatarTrue Christians only answer to one judge.

The Pope?


GravatarAnna Marie Cox has written a novel.
I won't be reading it.


GravatarCool poll, don't cheat and no need to freep,,,

http://tinyurl.com/eyk8o


GravatarAerosmith
don;t they have to performa at every halftime by act of congress?


GravatarLissen LIE-bruls:

My wankin' roll call:

Ann's lean long legs get my fat little white fingers drummin',
Michelle's heart shaped face sets up my pup tent in my very own private Yellowstone,
Bay, who has lost weight, has the fierce beauty of a modern day Athena,
OMG that hottie on Fox mornin!
Rita Cosby is still hot, but I liked er more on fox.
Darryl Kagal, mm, mm, mm, good, like Campbells soup.
(But Fox blondes still rule)

I have a plan to lose weight, and stop typin' on the net so much. I will be thought of as a winner, the girls will like me, the lie-bruls will fear me.

You LIE-bruls are all nazis, makin me read Nickeled and Dimed. I met Dvaid Horowitz, and I feel validated. You LIEbruls cannot protect us.

But me? I support the troops.


GravatarTrue Christians only answer to one judge.

a white owl?


Gravatareli, that is a most impressive execution of a ridiculous concept. Were you part of that?


GravatarWhat's the expression? Neoteny recapitulates Eurodisney?
Eli"

brilliant!


GravatarBack not too long ago the FISA court was an evil thing.

Now we wish for it to have control!

Same with the CIA!
Who would have thought we/I would be rooting for them?


FISA Court...or Bush?
CIA...or Cheney?

Easy call really....


Gravatar"It's now generally thought that humans didn't domesticate wolves into dogs, but that dogs evolved to look and act like something humans wouldn't kill on sight.."


So you are saying that trolls will eventually evolve into a form that looks like an Ewok and will fetch slippers on demand.


Gravatar Hooray for everything
olexicon, arbitrary carp


Hip hop hooray
ho
hey
ho


GravatarJudge Judy.
Terry C, Thinks Bush Sux


Damn it Terry. Beat me to it.


GravatarThe AMA is really pissed about that.

Tom's read the ultrasound books. He's done the research. How many in the AMA can say that?


GravatarMaybe Cruise is looking for his wife's brain?


GravatarI still don't know whether to laugh or be very very scared for that poor girl he married.

They aren't married yet, I don't think. Anyway, the ultrasound is old news.

Me, I'm waiting to pick her up on the rebound when she realizes Tom is a shill for a wacko cult that wants her to breed aliens to fight the War on Thetans and breaks up with him.


GravatarLet's hope no trolls are reading...

Troll evasion tactic proposal:
Next time one shows up on a thread, half of us stay to play with it, while the other half run back downstairs to continue pleasant conversation on the previous thread. Say, on even days of the month, those with an even number of letters in their handle... or something.


Gravatarjudge chuck wepner

Don't knock old Wapner. They say his television ad singlehandedly defeated on of Arnie's propostions last cycle, and I believe it.


Gravatareli, that is a most impressive execution of a ridiculous concept. Were you part of that?

Nooo. Ten years before my time, plus zero musical talent to boot.


GravatarPlease -- I'd pay good money for
a DVD of the Michael Jackson
"Save the Children" halftime show




Me, too!


GravatarPlum P--Paris has some wonderful ethnic restaurants, and we had Turkish food, Italian food, Vietnamese food, and lots of French food. A wonderful boeuf bourgoignone for New Years Eve. Lots and lots of croissants. I drank many glasses of French wine, all of which were delicious, and had some awesome champagne on New Year's Eve.

We saw so many things. My favorite place was the Basilique de Saint-Denis, just north of the city. It's one of the oldest churches in the city, and has the tombs of many of the earliest French kings, starting with Clovis.


GravatarAnd I am personally starting the war on Groundhogs Day today............. It's a WOODCHUCK you heathenist bastards! You will all burn in hell!
Keystone Blue

no,no,no they're whistle pigs.


GravatarExplain to me, in your best wingnutnese, how exactly it damages national security to reveal the fact that we spy on people without secret warrants instead of the fact that we spy on people with secret warrants?


.......>>>>>>>>because the FISA court has been infiltrated with jihadi with shoe bombs.One of them quit last week when the bush spy ring was revealed.

Other Jihadi:Bishop Tutu,ex-President Jimmy Cootta,the guy who does the Bean-O commercials.


GravatarTerry C: he really did it, huh? I was sort of hoping my leg was being pulled.


Gravatar(continued) .... and the butter will show up as tiny little yellow globes of goodness. You pour the jar's contents thru a sieve into a bowl; press the excess water out of the butter with a wooden spoon but don't press so hard the butter separates.
Shake the sieve or let stand until all dripping stops; cover the top of the butter with plastic wrap and invert the sieve. The butter falls out; you wrap it very tightly and shape it into a block with your hands and keep it in the fridge. This makes sweet unsalted butter.


Gravatar"half of us stay to play with it"

There must be an electronic method of drawing straws and a memorial wall for those who do not make it back.


GravatarThe AMA is really pissed about that.

Tom's read the ultrasound books. He's done the research. How many in the AMA can say that?
Max Planck


and you're just being glib!


GravatarSo you are saying that trolls will eventually evolve into a form that looks like an Ewok and will fetch slippers on demand.

With poop in them.



And ronjazz, you *were* talking about the Stanford band, and not the cuteness, right?


GravatarAl Swearengen, oceanic | 01.03.06 - 10:41 pm


actually knocking the boxer
not wapner


GravatarNeoteny recapitulates Eurodisney?
Eli


GravatarIt just ocurred to me, out of thin air, and I have nothing to base it on, but; did the Cold War/Vietnam era draft drive a lot of college kids into defense-oriented post graduate studies, chasing a fleeing deferment, when they might otherwise have been happy with a BA or BS,(but would then have gone in the meat grinder)? Just a cosmic-ray-strikes-a-brain-cell type of thought. I get these avery once in a while. Otherwise I'm fine. The twitching is much better these days...


Gravatar"Please -- I'd pay good money for
a DVD of the Michael Jackson
"Save the Children" halftime show"

was it that touching?


GravatarNeoteny

Now there's a word I haven't heard in a while.


GravatarTom doesn't believe in "doctors".

But he believes in the gizmos doctors use.

And plenty of other gizmos besides.
.


GravatarTerry C: he really did it, huh? I was sort of hoping my leg was being pulled.
nick carraway



Oohhhhhhhhhhhhh, yeah. He sho nuff did.

I love he expects her to give birth with no drugs and not make a sound.

I had both my kids natural...no fucking way I stayed quiet.


GravatarThe Other Sarah -- I remember making butter -- don't ask me why -- in third or fourth grade.

Not very attractive without adding the yellow dye #2.


GravatarOh boy. Now we have Aerosmith. My fuck runneth over.
Eli


Don't be disrespecting Aerosmith!


GravatarNeoteny recapitulates Eurodisney?
Eli


The realization that you thought that up yourself THAT QUICKLY has me feeling distinctly unworthy.


Gravatarumm... because the very act of providing information about who we're spying on to a FISA court is inherently risky. those judges and their clerks and rusty the bailiff can't be trusted.

or something like that.

i think they're spying on Tom Lantos. he makes a lot of overseas calls. i'd say they're spying on the DNC, but that would be a waste of time because they don't do anything. but Lantos is smart.


GravatarMy understanding is that the Stanford Band is teh cute.


GravatarThe greatest threat to America's role in the world today is not China. It's Medicare."
Some wingnut (we have 'em too) wrote a letter to the editor of one of the weeklies, rabbiting on about how universal health care destroys democracy and leads to fascism.

It was run under a picture of Mussolini and Hitler:

"I hear Canada is nice"
"Und zey haf the zee healthcare, too".

The one thing these people cannot stand up to is mockery.

Mock loud, mock often.


GravatarArthur Koestler was the last time I think (for neoteny).


GravatarAnd WHERE is HER brain?????/
Terry C, Thinks Bush Sux


GravatarSo you are saying that trolls will eventually evolve into a form that looks like an Ewok and will fetch slippers on demand.

With poop in them.


[shakes head sadly] Ah, when will it end, all this spitting in shoes, this peeing in cokes...


Gravatar Tom doesn't believe in "doctors".

No, he doesn't believe in psychiatrists. Doctors in general he appears to be okay with.


GravatarThey showed the clip of Cruise giving Matt Lauer a bunch of shit.

I don't like Lauer but I wished he would've reached over and clocked Cruise....right in those buck teeth of his.

And those bangs...what the hell was Cruise thinking with those bangs?

Sorry, but I could never see what some women thought was so great about him.

He always set my GayDar off.


GravatarSally's comment on French butter reminded me that I've never had what the French would consider first-rate rind cheese; the US only allows the pasteurized kind to be imported.

I remember seeing on TV a proud cheesemaker demonstrate the superiority of the unpasteurized. He cut open two wheels and placed wedges outside. His unpasteurized camenbert attracted considerably more flies.


GravatarThe Other Sarah -- I remember making butter -- don't ask me why -- in third or fourth grade.

Not very attractive without adding the yellow dye #2.
flory, Business Manager


Same with Malkin.


GravatarGo with the Guernsey or the Jersey- most Angus don't get anywhere *near* a stanchion & don't particularly cotton to anyone other than their calves milking them...


GravatarTom doesn't believe in "doctors".

No, he doesn't believe in psychiatrists. Doctors in general he appears to be okay with.
NTodd, Gold Leader


Shame, because he fucking needs a psychiatrist.

Badly!


GravatarDon't be disrespecting Aerosmith!

Bleagh.


The realization that you thought that up yourself THAT QUICKLY has me feeling distinctly unworthy.

That seems like the exactly wrong reaction...


My understanding is that the Stanford Band is teh cute.

Just don't ask about our cheerleaders.

Gevalt.


Gravatar"[shakes head sadly] Ah, when will it end, all this spitting in shoes, this peeing in cokes...
Doozer,"

Where the hell do you shop? Might be time to change retailers.


GravatarSallyh, i've been to Paris 3 times and gained at least 10 pounds every trip...for some reason my hotels we're always just beside a patisserie...

SHEETS by the way (not that i can open the damn link)


Gravatar"half of us stay to play with it"

There must be an electronic method of drawing straws and a memorial wall for those who do not make it back.
EkCenTriK


To be honest, this is a selfish proposal of mine, b/c I do far more reading than commenting. Still, I could sacrifice myself once in a while for the fine folks here... or forget the splitting up, everyone could swith threads and leave the the things to wallow in their own tantrums.


GravatarSorry, but I could never see what some women thought was so great about him.

He always set my GayDar off.
Terry C, Thinks Bush Sux


Gay men are hot. It's the whole dead-eyed-I'll-eat-your-soul thing that creeps me out.


GravatarNot very attractive without adding the yellow dye #2.
flory, Business Manager


Same with Malkin.
ronjazz |




GravatarGay men are hot. It's the whole dead-eyed-I'll-eat-your-soul thing that creeps me out.
Marcia Brady ∞


And he can't act for shit, either!


GravatarTrue Christians only answer to one judge.

Harriet Miers?

Oh, I'm sorry - I'm kidding. "True Christians" are 180 degrees from the Rove rethuglican hypocrite fundie asshole minions whose so-called "god" is a sick, vengeful dick.


Gravatardid the Cold War/Vietnam era draft drive a lot of college kids into defense-oriented post graduate studies, chasing a fleeing deferment, when they might otherwise have been happy with a BA or BS,(but would then have gone in the meat grinder)?

One of the major reasons why getting into medical school became so tough then.
Too many potential draftees chasing those slots.


Gravatar"I hear Canada is nice"
"Und zey haf the zee healthcare, too".

The one thing these people cannot stand up to is mockery.

Mock loud, mock often.
JR


The people who mock Canada couldn't find it on a map.

I had one asshole who actually thinks "it's all French up there."


GravatarDozer,
It drove them into the graduate programs with the best chance of acceptance and the lowest chance that they would be kicked out and then subject to the draft. The degree program itself was irrelevant.

I guess I'm glad to be of help.


Gravatar"True Christians" are 180 degrees from the Rove rethuglican hypocrite fundie asshole minions whose so-called "god" is a sick, vengeful dick.
Stinky


I hate fundies!


Gravatar-I'll-eat-your-soul thing
Scorned women.


GravatarNow, see - the trolls were invited and didn't accept.

So they're not allowed on any future threads because they're not invited to those!


Gravatar-I'll-eat-your-soul thing
Scorned women.
asd


The ones he shot blanks with?


Gravatarthe US only allows the pasteurized kind to be imported.

You can get unpasteurized cheese here. Imported and domestic.

visit your local Whole Foods if there's no cheese shop handy.


GravatarI had one asshole who actually thinks "it's all French up there."
Terry C

we could only hope...


GravatarYou just shouldn't question anything that our President says or does -- that's it. It undermines the morale of the nation, and it undermines the morale of the brave troops who are defending our American way of life against America's enemies. It also hurts his feelings when people accuse him of not caring for America and Americans, and it makes him cry. (Not many people know that it makes him cry, but I know.)

The President knows best, and that is why he was elected to be President by an overwhelming majority of the American people -- by the true American patriots. The President is surrounded by the smartest and wisest people in America, if not the world, and it is their sworn duty to protect this country and to make it safe for all of us -- even those Americans who laugh at the President, or want to see him impeached, or who think that he should go do the bad thing to himself.

There are some people in this country who are trying to expose the President's efforts to protect us from another 9/11, and while they might think that they are smart, they are not. If the President cannot be allowed to operate in absolute secrecy without disloyal lawyers and judges and snoopy members of the Congress always wanting to look over his shoulder and second guess him and accuse him of violating their "rights", the enemies of this country will be able to sweep in and take over while we are all sleeping some night.

The President never violates our "rights", because it is the President who gives us those "rights". The President does not and cannot violate the Constitution, because the Constitution does not apply to the President -- it only applies to those beneath the President. And, in spite of what many people have been led to believe by the Liberal Media, the Constitution is not a set of rules like the Bible -- it is a set of suggestions, and it is not always right. When the Constitution does not serve the moment well, or when it gets in the way of elected officials, those officials are allowed to listen to the President instead, or follow the teachings of the Bible, or both.

Why do people on the street think that they know more than the President? They must know that they can never know more than he does. He goes to secret meetings and hears things that we will never hear. He sees photographs that we will never see. He hears recordings that they will never hear. Why would anyone think that they know, or could know more than this man?

The President does and should control the press in America. The President should be allowed to make the press say things that fool America's enemies, and the press should not fight the President and his staff when they do try to make the press fool the enemies of America -- they should just go along, even if they do not understand why they are being asked to say the things they are being asked to say. More than that, though, the press should never criticize the President or disagree with him or worst of all -- make


GravatarSorry--I see it was The Other Sarah who wrote about French butter, not Sallyh


GravatarWell, I'm not a troll, but one way it could hurt national security is if they accidentally managed to catch an actual terrorist, now they can't convict because the evidence is now tainted.

Oh wait, they're not convicting them anyway. They just get shipped off gitmo.

Dunno.


GravatarGay men are hot. It's the whole dead-eyed-I'll-eat-your-soul thing that creeps me out.
Marcia Brady

meow Anderson!


GravatarThe libralz simply dont get it, never have.

Bush is the president, your "man" lost.

Kerry thinks he's cool with his turkeys hangin' over his shoulder, but W walks the walk, he's not a pretender like Kerry,

Dean is insane.
Kerry is a feminate man
Hillary has big legs
Scumer wants to take away my gun, but I like him on Iraq

Jonah Goldberg has a family, he's a family man.

Lucienne Goldberg? I just want to jump in her lap, and forget my high school gym class.

I go to bars.


Gravatar-I'll-eat-your-soul thing

Scorned women.

asd


Anyone who needs to be in a cult has problems.

The women probably "scorned" him - who needs to be hooked up with a nut?


GravatarWolcott
so good.


Gravatarterris!... 9/11! (narrows beady too-close-togehter eyes) keepin' us safe!


GravatarBecauce you are undercutting our President!
Get it?
He's our defence against Terrism!
He needs to do what he has to do and fucks like you are standing in his way!
Jeez I'd like to put a mic up to you in front of the American Public.

Should we have invaded IRAQ?

NO?

So you support Saddam!

(heard this kinna thing at work, only it was putting a mic in front of Ted Kennedy)
.


GravatarWolcott
so good.
portia

go post it upstairs, it's quite funny! Tweety = power bottom!


GravatarIt also hurts his feelings when people accuse him of not caring for America and Americans, and it makes him cry. (Not many people know that it makes him cry, but I know.)


:lol"

Now, you know as well as I do that he only cries when the liquor cabinet is empty...or he's out of blow!


GravatarBen, The True American, continued

More than that, though, the press should never criticize the President or disagree with him or worst of all -- make fun of him. We must always present a united face to the world and to our enemies, and presenting that face is one the main duties of the American press.

There is no way to tell things to only the best and most loyal Americans, although I know that the President is working on ways to make this happen. Someday, the President will be able to talk to just his friends and nobody else, and he will be able to tell them secrets without anyone else hearing. One of the ways he will be able to do this will be in big meeting halls which have been created just for this purpose. The enemies of our country will not be able to get into these places, but good and loyal Americans will be able to get in. Some of these meeting halls already exist as very large places of Christian worship, and more of them are going to be built every year. When the time is right, loyalty tests will be given to all Americans, and those Americans who pass these tests will be given a special kind of ID that can never be lost or broken, and this ID will allow these loyal Americans to meet together and hear messages from the President that disloyal Americans and foreign enemies will not be able to hear. When the loyal Americans leave these meetings, they will go into the light and carry out the wishes of the President. (I also believe that someday the President will give us all special listening devices that are implanted in our heads so that he will be able to tell us things anytime, and anywhere. For instance, if the President knows that we are standing next to an enemy of America while we are standing on a street corner waiting for the light to change, he can tell us to push that person in front of a car. Can you imagine a whole country where at least 60% of the people can hear the President anytime and all the time. With the exception of the Rapture, I cannot imagine anything better that could ever happen to us.

If you do not believe in the President, then you do not believe in God, and if you do not believe in God then you do not believe in America.

If you do not believe in America, you should not be allowed to live on the Earth.

It's just that simple.


Gravatarflory, Business Manager | Email | 01.03.06 - 10:52 pm |

I can get unpasteurized cheese in the US--I saw the show a long time ago, so thing might have changed, but those French cheesemakes were pretty steamed that they couldn't sell their best cheeses in the US.

On the same show, there was a group from Indiana called the Raw Milk Rebels, who trafficked in black market raw milk at secret locations


GravatarOfcourse my parody doesn't address the point.

But that's my point, they don't.

.


GravatarMaybe Cruise is looking for his wife's brain?
DWD - Listener in the Snow


Wrenchburg could prollie tell him where the best ones are...


GravatarIf you do not believe in the President, then you do not believe in God, and if you do not believe in God then you do not believe in America.

If you do not believe in America, you should not be allowed to live on the Earth.

It's just that simple.
Ben, The True American


And trolls ARE actually THAT fucking nuts.


GravatarEschaton homepage is screwed.

Post is here.


Gravatar"True Christians only answer to one judge."

Pigmeat Markham?

Everybody near or far
I'm goin' to Paris to stop this war
All those kids gotta listen to me
Because I am the judge and you can plainly see
I wanna big 'round table when I get there
I won't sit down to one that's square
I wanna lay down the law to them that brought it
I'll bust some head because I am the judge"


GravatarSo, how'd I do?


GravatarSo, how'd I do?
Ben, The True American

Better than me.

.


GravatarHey LIE-berals: We won WW2. We are the sole superpower.


Gravatar"Why Atrios, why don't you talk about all the good things that have happened in Iraq?! Why, just today, our boys refurbished, repainted and opened up a school and yesterday women where safe to go out in the streets without being all wrapped up. Why can't you not talk about the soldiers getting killed or coming back wounded as it only demoralizes our armed forces overseas? Who cares if it's only 2000+ dead, that's way less than Vietnam or the battle of D-Day. Support our troops! Why no, I have more important things to do than serve in the army and besides, that's for those "other people".

It's all you nabobs of negitivity that are empowering the enemy. They have to be stopped by any means necessary. First Iraq, then Syria and Iran but not Saudi Arabia and Uzbekistan. White phosphorous is NOT a chemical weapon and dropping hundreds of WP fire missions on Iraqis like pouring a broken Denny's salt shaker on a slug is the only way these heathens know. What these terrorist faced at Abu Ghraib was no worse than fraternity prank. All of you should be shipped to Gitmo with them for questioning our president. We found WMDs, Fox News told me so. You should stop trusting the liberal media and all those foreign papers.

Don't you understand, these Moslems are so backward, they can't have a democratic country of their own. Why can't stop badmouthing the Iraq elections and making fun of the Iraqi's purple thumbs? They should know our God Jesus is better than their Allah. All you atheists wouldn't understand, like how all of you don't understand Intelligent Design. Don't you get it, evolution is only a theory! It's like all of you are out to destroy Christmas, with the Islamofascists. Only by having the healing love of Jesus' divine grace hammered through your skulls would you see the light or else we would beat it out of you. Can't you see that it was the women's "liberation" movement that cause so much turmoil in our country, that's why 1 trillion babies are murdered each year by abortionists, why there's sex in video games, and why gays have AIDS. Can't these uppity women folk just settle down with a husband, serve in the kitchen and birth our future Christian soldiers of America. Oh, they should also cover themselves up in robes and shawls when in public. Oh, pornography and extramarital sex are the moral ills of our Christian nation, especially with involving the Clenis and his lesbian witch of a wife. I wouldn't mind a lesbian threesome between Anne and Michelle right now.

Don't you fucking call me a hypocrite? Watch your language. Kerry was a flip-flopper. I was against wiretapping, the militarization of the police, and peacekeeping missions in foreign countries, but 9/11 changed everything. It united us as a country.

I'll laugh at all of you when the Islamofascists take over this country and saw through your fat necks! All of you! Support our troops and OUR PRESIDENT!!!"

K, that's my best, I'm out. Peace. Sorry about the Anne&Michele image


GravatarOh liberals are truly funny. Do you ever think of consequences? Make a joke about Bush, while he protects your ass.


GravatarMake a joke about Bush

Yeah that's our RIGHT as AMERICANS. Asshole.


GravatarActually Fat, the Soviet Union won WWII and they are now history.


GravatarActivist Judges are in cahoots with Al-Queda. They have been tipping the Fed's hand when it comes to wire-tapping for years through email and symbols on DOJ and NSA websites. This further explains the need for the planting of illegal but yummy cookies on the WH and NSA web sites.


Gravatar*ding* *ding* *ding*

I think we have a winner in Young Freud.

That's one beautiful piece of drivel if I ever heard one.

Gawd that must have hurt...


GravatarAll right!!! The first true brain-dead troll shows up at 11:08 pm -- and of course he FAILS to even try to answer Atrios' question!


GravatarThat's one beautiful piece of drivel if I ever heard one.

Authentic frontier gibberish, indeed!


Gravatar"Oh liberals are truly funny. Do you ever think of consequences? Make a joke about Bush, while he protects your ass."

And what "consequenses" should there be for making jokes about Bush, exactly?


GravatarHey FuckFace,

Why do you hate America?

otto


GravatarOtto, are you talking to anyone in particular?
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GravatarOtto, are you talking to anyone in particular?
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GravatarOh liberals are truly funny. Do you ever think of consequences? Make a joke about Bush, while he protects your ass.
American


This was so nice it had to be repeated.

And it only took 2 hours for it to happen.


Gravatar"while he protects your ass"?

Dumb luck- sorta like OBL's dumb luck back in 2001...


GravatarBTW, don't know if anyone else mentioned, but the episode of Monty Python featuring the Exploding Penguin bit just aired on BBC America.

Odd coinky-dink, that...


Gravatar"One fine morning in May a slim young horsewoman might have been seen riding a glossy sorrel mare along the flower-strewn avenues of the Bois de Boulognge."


GravatarSo...any rational wingerese responses - yet?


GravatarGod will punish you all, you nazi fascists!

How's that?


Gravatar"Explain to me, in your best wingnutnese, how exactly it damages national security to reveal the fact that we spy on people without secret warrants instead of the fact that we spy on people with secret warrants?"

Your wingnut fetish is rather moronic, but I will take a stab anyways.

It damages national security in the same way that it did when it was made public that we were tracking Osama via his cellphones. Guess what the result of that "Gotcha Bush" journalism was? You guessed it, no cellphone calls period, hand delivered communications, one time use email addresses. And Atrios is still front and center complaining about where's Osama? Oh, that reminds me. Is Atrios still dodging the question of whether or not he supported the overthrow of the Taliban in Afghanistan?

Back to the present day anti-American Atrios jihad. You keep over generalizing to the point where your claims have no meaning. What damages national security is the line item detail from the NY Times as to sources and methods for tracking known Al Qaeda calls to the U.S.

"Everyone knows terrorists are bad" - Atrios.

So why track them? Nice national security platform moron.

Hit the tip jar so Atrios can make comparisons of the US Military to those of Hitler and Stalin popular again.


GravatarGawd that must have hurt...

Yes, it did.

I think my eyes began to start bulging like I was having a stroke or a heart attack while I was trying think and string toghether of all these moronic talking points that I've heard over the years.


GravatarI ink-they og-cay is a oll-tray.


GravatarHe'll never figure it out.


GravatarShorter Cog: I can't answer the question, so I'll just prevaricate using some irrelevant talking points du jour, and call everybody terrorist supporters, (even though I supported jihad when it was against the Commies) only I'll use big words to make like I'm more intelligent than the average LGF troll- and now I'm going to jerk off dreaming of the day when I can join my hero Bill O' Reilly in a threesome with Ann Coulter!

(Note: points in Cog's post not answered, because there weren't any.)


GravatarCog wrote:

"What damages national security is the line item detail from the NY Times as to sources and methods for tracking known Al Qaeda calls to the U.S."

Details please. So far this is an unsupported assertion.

+ Even if true, this is a separate point from simply reporting that W is breaking the law by authorising spying on Americans without warrants. You haven't addressed at all how leaking this could be prejudicial to national security. I don't see why an open debate on the need for warrants leading to a descision by democratic representatives on this would be prejudical to NS either. Do you? If so how?


GravatarCog - One more time:

The real security danger this country faced was the goddamned moron in the WH who ignored totally a goddamned Presidential Briefing Memo titled: Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.
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What the fuck Atrios could have done about that or what he could have done to save our asses from the terrorists is a fucking mystery. But it is no mystery that your little tin god got 3000 Americans killed because he is a fucking goddamned idiot.


GravatarI don't know Cog, are you still dodging all the questions put to you, like for instance your claim that commentators at Atrios are somehow directly encouraging the Iraqi Insurgency, and refusing to provide even ONE link which shows the Iraqi Insurgency even knows about Eschaton?

Still, at least you've stopped pretending to be a Democrat, and ceased using that oh so transparent line of "Thanks for 2004". Not that anyone will actually ever forget your oh so obvious dishonesty, but it's nice to see you've at least learnt enough to drop it by now.

But let's give you another chance to prove your "Intelligence", shall we? Bearing in mind that many of the Mujahadeen which make up present day Al Qaeda has direct experience of working along side the CIA, and using their information to attack the Soviets... and bearing in mind you yourself have just claimed that Al Qaeda now knows the US can listen in on their satellite phone calls... what makes you think that they didn't suspect their land line calls might be tapped until the New York Times reported upon it?

Take your time, Cog... Bonus points if you manage to avoid any references at all to the most famous political scandal of all time, film noir cliches, and Holywood Deus Ex Machina... Which you'll have to do to posit the blissful state of ignorance needed for your claims to have any real world relevance at all.

You wingnut.


Gravatar"I don't know Cog, are you still dodging all the questions put to you, like for instance your claim that commentators at Atrios are somehow directly encouraging the Iraqi Insurgency, and refusing to provide even ONE link which shows the Iraqi Insurgency even knows about Eschaton?"

I love it when people make claims for me. One, I said many arguments from the fringe left were similar to those running at the time in the Arab press. Just flip back to the Atrios/Kos/DU archives from Abu Ghraib or Guantanemo for an example of the "patriotic" anti-American sentiment du jour at the time.

Now that has been boiled down by a few feeble minds into Cog said Al Jazeera reads Atrios. Moron. How can you call administration members liars and not hold yourself to even a modicum of honesty?

I also never heard even the slightest objection to you when Atrios fell off the rails on a 3 week Hitler/Stalin binge. Was it wrong for me to question his support of the U.S. troops after he compared them to those of Hitler and Stalin? I forgot the latest excuse for that. And we all know the morale highground Kos stands on with respect to those killed and mutilated in Iraq.

Like I have said many times, Bush has made an inordinate amount of mistakes, but when you are irresponsible dishonest with your criticism, exaggerating it beyond all believability, you discredit the legitimate criticism based on actual facts.

"Bearing in mind that many of the Mujahadeen which make up present day Al Qaeda has direct experience of working along side the CIA, and using their information to attack the Soviets"

Wrong. At most there are a handful. The CIA paid the Pakistani ISI to facilitate attacks on the Soviets. But why let facts and history get in the way of your theory? Let me guess where it will end up, or is that even really neccessary any more?

"and bearing in mind you yourself have just claimed that Al Qaeda now knows the US can listen in on their satellite phone calls"

Read the fool who just provided a professional translation of all of Osama's speeches. I am sure you are in the publishers target demographic. Skip ahead to his declaration of war against the US, I also recommend his interview where he admitted planning 9-11 [oops, there goes that Jew conspiracy], where he admitted raping his 2nd or 3rd wife when they first met [i forgot which], read the part where Osama joked about the fact that many of the hijackers on 9-11 did not know it was a suicide mission.

As to the damage caused by publishing a report on tracking Osama through his cellphone, do your own research, purchase a day pass for Lexis/Nexis.


Gravatar"what makes you think that they didn't suspect their land line calls might be tapped until the New York Times reported upon it?"

Hmmm. So let me get this right. We track Osama to Tora Bora through his cellphone, we capture a key Al Qaeda #3 in part through tracking a cellphone to a safe house, and the calls drop off considerably after a report of the successes?

I apologize, it must have been a coincidence.

I have to say though. It would be nice if the administration and/or the U.S. military were blessed with the benefit of the doubt that you so often ascribe to Atrios and to terrorists.

But you support the troops, no doubt. Just like Atrios.


Gravatar"It damages national security in the same way that it did when it was made public that we were tracking Osama via his cellphones. Guess what the result of that "Gotcha Bush" journalism was? You guessed it, no cellphone calls period, hand delivered communications, one time use email addresses."

No such thing was ever reported. It's what they call a MYTH. Feel free to educate yourself about it here:
http://www.onthemedia.org/stream.../ otm122305c.mp3


GravatarHey Cog-troll.
Who was the scumbag that told the press we were tracking Osamas'cell phones?

Thats right Coggy, another scumbag Republican, Orin Hatch. Thanks for making that point.

I don't see any Democrats destroying ongoing undercover operations to find WMD's. Who might have done that? You guessed right again Coghead. Republicans in the White House and lots of em. Your two for two.

Lets go for the trifecta Cog.

When the George Bush says he needs to Felony wiretap instead of Fisa wiretap because its quicker, is he lying? Yes or no?

C'mon you must have heard the president say we have to be fast. There are terrorists that lurk.

C'mon spit it out.

Yeaaaaa, that's right Clog.
Another scumbag Republican lie.


GravatarUm, because it just does, that's all. Because I'm the President, that's why. Because Dick told me it would conversate national secretaries if...um, wait...what was the question again?


GravatarYes, CBS, Time, WashingtonTimes etc all reported on Osama's cellphone. Not sure how that equates to a myth in your eyes.

Or was it a myth that he was confirmed to be in Tora Bora via use of his cellphone?

Was it also a myth that Abu Zubaydah was captured with a combination of cellphone tracking and an informant? Was it a myth that a cellphone trace leading to a safe house resulted in the capture of Ramzi Binalshibh?

And let us look at the "myth" as you described it. The OntheMedia host asked the expert if the reporting forced Osama to turn off his cell phone.

The experts reply? I do not believe Al Qaeda explicitly mentioned the Washington Times arcitle and then turned off their cell phones.

Wow. I guess that trumps the lecture I watched on Al Qaeda's operations in Pakistan. The one the explicitly detailed how they had curtailed cellphone communications in all but extraordinary circumstances, and in those instances used only one time use, throw away cellphones.

Oh, FYI, the same conference also showed video of a huge warehouse of Al Qaeda propaganda material, complete with a dozen or so multiple dvd burners, and professional video editing and compiling materials. On the front of the building, a sign for the MMA. Just thought I would throw that in there.

Bottom line, your statement that it was a myth is either naive or wishful thinking. Combine that with the "gotcha" journalism that only looks for mistakes from this administration, and I do not see how you could argue it is not part of an obvious pattern.

The Washington Times reported it once, so you are wrong. Orin Hatch leaked one detail, you are wrong. That also absolves a significant amount of leaks from Biden et all.

Educate yourself on that biotch.


GravatarOh, and impeach Bush if you want. I don't care. I am a registered Democrat.

Just don't be an ahole like Atrios and compare the US Military to those of Hitler and Stalin, and at least give this administration as much of the benefit of the doubt as you are prepared to afford to the terrorists.

Oh, I am sorry, the glorious freedom fighting resistance.

Get your news from someone other than Atrios or Jon Stewart next time.


GravatarThe myth was that it was reported (you know, by REPORTERS) that the US government was TRACKING Osama's satellite phone. RIn reality, they only mentioned the fact that Osama POSSESSED and USED such a phone, something that practically amounted to public knowledge.

And the expert's opinion son OTM went further than you acknowledge, theorizing that it was the US government's own targeted missle attacks on Osama that tipped him off to his phone being tracked.

And, at any rate, I don't know why you consider that an example of "Gotcha Bush" journalism, since this apochrophal revelation supposedly took place under Clinton.


GravatarI just dropped by to say that I have successfully beat this easily beatable challenge, having explained why the leak was worse than the wiretaps. It's appropriately titled: NY Times Traitorism Explained.

You can send the prize money to my Paypal account. Thank you.


GravatarYou're invited to visit my Shop site or my Shopping site, Schmuck.
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