I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Joe - no reality left.
Morning.
Chaos, mayhem, disorder - Joe, your job here is done.
Journalist follow up?
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! You made a funny!
Amen Atrios. Speaking of Baghdad Joe, read Riverbend. It brings some reality to the situation there.
OT:
Bob Novak, the mini-Opera
I don't think bloggers recruited Lamont to run for the CT Senate seat. Heck, know one talked about him until he put out feelers. People liked what he had to say, including bloggers--therefore their support.
I'm really surprised that as far as I know no journalist has ever bothered to follow this one up.
Why surprised?
Damn you mer!
Israeli troops just "entered" Lebanon according to CNN. In my book, that should be Israeli troops just INVADED Lebanon. It's not like they went there for a picnic.
Reality Lunch bites, hey Joe?
Michael Ware is an unhinged Democratic blogger dedicated to purging the impure from the party!
What?
He works for who?
Good morning - to be a balmy 116F here, and maybe, according to the weather forecast, a 'few degrees warmer' to-morrow.
That was a great piece by Harold Meyerson!! They posted it at the Ned Lamont official site.
It's really tragic that articles like that a so rare. The MSM is taking a dive for Holy Joe. Shame on the press in this country!! - With the exception of only a few good columnists who speak truth to power.
Even Fox used a more aggressive word in their headline about Israel's invasion of Lebanon than CNN did - they said "Israeli troops PUSH into Lebanon"
In my book, that should be Israeli troops just INVADED Lebanon. It's not like they went there for a picnic.
mimi
Could be they're just stopping in for a little nosh. There's good deli there.
I guess Joe Klein and co. thinks Time magazine is a liberal populist angry communist America-hating rag.
WSJ Reporters at War with Editorial Page
“They’re wrong all the time. They lack credibility to the point that the emperor has no clothes,” said one staffer whose reporting has been at odds with an editorial crusade.
[snip]
“To have Paul Gigot as our captain is bullshit,” one staffer said. “It’s not for real.”
Harold Meyerson has become a columnofascist.
OT:
Bob Novak, the mini-Opera
Attaturk
OK, I'll click your link but it better be A Quick One.
Israel invaded Lebanon.
Oh, that should cool things down.
"Shame on the press in this country!! - With the exception of only a few good columnists who speak truth to power.
portia "
Ahhhhhhh-MEN! Shameful!
This place has gone downhill since littoral left.
I am about to become a traitor to my class.
He'll never eat in that town again?
Israel invaded Lebanon.
That's not an invasion. Just a sightseeing tour.
I still don't think Myerson has it completely right. It's not about being out of sync with his constituents or other Northeast Dems. It's about being the go to guy for Fox News when they need a Democrat to call other Democrats unreasonable or worse. It's about selling out his part for face time. It's about undermining party unity. And it's about being a dick.
Joe is praying for you Mr. Meyerson. Head for the hills.
A good overview of l'Affaire Hastert:
http://news.yahoo.com/edcartoons...ns/
jeffdanziger
This place has gone downhill since littoral left.
NToddos, Coffee Fairy
Literally.
Or is it littorally?
just recevied my results for my second year exams.
managed to pass 4 of my modules, failed 2 of them.
1 of them I have to resit, not sure about the 2nd one as it was all coursework.
This place has gone downhill since littoral left.
Wha hoppen?
Senator Lieberman is so divorced from reality/i>
Joe and reality have an open marriage
"OK, I'll click your link but it better be A Quick One.
Holden Caulfield "
It is a quickie. Novak is in full stage make-up. As noted, it is an opera with ONE singer!
Speaking of Baghdad Joe, read Riverbend. It brings some reality to the situation there.
Jesus fucking christ.
Bob woodwards new book:
All the President's Enablers
Even the USA's lapdog Koizumi who is visiting Israel criticized the Israeli reaction:
"I understand the anger of the Israelis," Koizumi said in joint press conference after his talks with Olmert. "But I hope you will not seek an eye for an eye and keep in mind the importance of peace."
Lieberman's ultimate problem isn't fanatical bloggers, any more than Lyndon Johnson's was crazy, antiwar Democrats. His problem is that Bush, and the war that both he and Bush have championed, is speeding the ongoing realignment of the Northeast. His problem, dear colleagues, is Connecticut.
Amazing how some clear, simple logic can cut through all the bullshit, isn't it?
Love the distinction between blogging and columnizing, btw.
"It’s beginning to look … NOT like Fitzmas" - Politburo Diktat
Even Fox used a more aggressive word in their headline about Israel's invasion of Lebanon than CNN did - they said "Israeli troops PUSH into Lebanon"
That's because they think it's awesome.
Moonbootica! Good for YOU! Smarty Pants!
Israel invaded Lebanon.
What about the Cedar Revolution? Will the Israelis drop cluster bombs on the Protest Babes?
What does the Torah have to say about divorcing reality?
Just checkin ....
Speaking of the need for democracy . . . .
It's not about being out of sync with his constituents or other Northeast Dems. It's about being the go to guy for Fox News when they need a Democrat to call other Democrats unreasonable or worse. It's about selling out his part for face time. It's about undermining party unity. And it's about being a dick.
I think more people care about ShortRide. Mentum.'s policy positions than about his inside-baseball media presence.
Wha hoppen?
Billy B
Trollie declared this place to be "pathetic" and left.
And there was much rejoicing.
All the President's Enablers
Troutski
Woodward's writing an autobiography?
"OK, I'll click your link but it better be A Quick One.
Holden Caulfield "
It is, although maybe he should be the star of Pagliacci
"It’s beginning to look … NOT like Fitzmas" - Politburo Diktat
Algonquin J. Calhoun
Is this Ted or rob? I can't recall.
Israel has just invaded France after an Israeli tourist's camera was stolen from a Paris hotel room.
"It’s beginning to look … NOT like Fitzmas" - Politburo Diktat
Algonquin J. Calhoun
Oh, so Libby's no longer indicted? Fitz has stopped the Plame investigation? Bush is popular?
Trollie declared this place to be "pathetic" and left.
Well, we can be a pathetic lot. Littorally.
heh.
so did anybody catch the irony of the Japanese PM who is ready to attack North Korea and who regularly visits shrines honouring Japanese war criminals telling the Israelis about the importance of peace, or am I the only one?
Wow, Harold Meyerson gets a gold star.
Kind of amazing that so many people paid to think about these sorts of things miss the very basic realities involved....
Think I'll send some positive reinforcement to Mr. Meyerson...
(Oh, and on-topic blogwhore. Sorry)
Lieberman's ultimate problem isn't fanatical bloggers, any more than Lyndon Johnson's was crazy, antiwar Democrats. His problem is that Bush...
Didn't Atrios say this on about ten different occasions over the last 2-3 years? The war is going to be the issue in 2006, and 2008, and 2010 and however long this bloody (and expensive) clusterfuck continue.
Lamont should keep running against Bush, the war, and Joe.
RE: Riverbend, damn, just.....damn.
For me, it's about being a Fox News Democrat.
He takes pride in berating the party for not supporting Bush more strongly.
And he wants to be his party's nominee -- when it's convenient for him.
"I understand the anger of the Israelis," Koizumi said in joint press conference after his talks with Olmert. "But I hope you will not seek an eye for an eye and keep in mind the importance of peace."
"Now let's get back to my plans for a pre-emptive strike against North Korea."
so did anybody catch the irony of the Japanese PM who is ready to attack North Korea and who regularly visits shrines honouring Japanese war criminals telling the Israelis about the importance of peace, or am I the only one?
This must be why he gets along great with Bush.
Good morning - to be a balmy 116F here, and maybe, according to the weather forecast, a 'few degrees warmer' to-morrow.
GWPDA, PhD, BA, CPhil. - 9:32 am
over 105 or so, it's pretty much academic, ain't it, dahlin?
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someone should really call out his friendship with Hannity. Here is a guy who is an apologist for anti-semites (Falwell) and enablers of domestic terror and murdering political officials (Coulter).
anyone with a line to Ned bring this to his attention!
Hang Hannity around his neck like an albatross.
Bush is popular?
NToddos, Coffee Fairy
Yeah, but it's just that he has a lot of money. You can smoke his dope and drink all his booze and he doesn't care.
Israel at war north and south, Mumbai train explosions, W and Angela meet-up, Sheesh.
What a morning!
Renaming Auschwits.
Sorta like the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
it all runs together- Joe's policy positions dovetail so neatly with the Bush LLC/ MSM's need for a 'sensible democrat' it makes him inescapable on TV, which has insulated him from his constituents, making him all the more a tool.
It's a vicious circle and he has no idea what he's doing to himself. I just hope Lamont can stomp him so badly he gives up the idea of running as an independent.
Just read that Riverbend link. Joe Loserman should be thankful that, instead of just trying to unseat him, people aren't lined up to smack his lying face for what he and his necking partner have done to the Iraqis.
over 105 or so, it's pretty much academic, ain't it, dahlin?
Planes can still take off at 116F. A few degrees hotter...?
"For me, it's about being a Fox News Democrat.
He takes pride in berating the party for not supporting Bush more strongly.
And he wants to be his party's nominee -- when it's convenient for him.
CoT-Colbert's Apprentice"
Same here, but there's That is the fact that he has become a dingleberry on the ASS of the party that stole his OWN VP ELECTION from him!
That Riverbend post is utterly disheartening.
Renaming Auschwits.
Sorta like the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
Yeah, I saw that one first thing this AM. I guess I don't really care either way. The sin remains.
Sorta like the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
Holden Caulfield
Good grief.
The cable news is also marking Phoenix as a "City in Fear" from multiple serial killers. All I remember about Baseline is that there used to be flower farms down there. GWPDA, you okay?
Same here, but there's That is the fact that he has become a dingleberry on the ASS of the party that stole his OWN VP ELECTION from him!
PeasantParty
_____________________________
Sorry. Anger got away with me. It should say: Same here, but there's more. The fact that...
speaking of W meeting Angela, it turns out that they had to use prop people to meet Bush - you know, like soldiers in civvies, no protestors, etc. just like in the good old days when that part of the country was Communist. I'll try to find the link.
they tell me the economy is strong, yet my 401k has been flat for 5 years, they tell me the economy is strong yet gas prices have almost doubled in 5 years...gm is laying off by the thousands, real working wages are stagnant...on and on - yet they keep TELLING me that the economy is strong
Chris Dodd, his very good friend, won't support him if he doesn't win the primary.
weather in Devizes - sunny intervals 21°C (69°F)
Joe recently said a sign of progress in Iraq is that he saw a lot of people have cell phones. Does he know cell phones are used to detonate IEDs?
Yeah, I saw that one first thing this AM. I guess I don't really care either way. The sin remains.
NToddos, Coffee Fairy
The story mentioned in passing a massacre of Jews perpetrated by Poles after WWII. Never heard of that before.
Also Bill Richardson wants nothing to do with him.
Geez, I can't believe I just said that... I'm not even sure Lamont can beat Lieberman, and here I am talking about 'stomping'...
wishful thinking? only Connecticut knows...
Wonder how that USAirways/America West merger's working out?
Speaking of Baghdad Joe, read Riverbend. It brings some reality to the situation there.
Attturk
Shove this up Chris Shays' shriveled ass just ahead of the muzzle of an AK-47...
I have noted before that Holy Joe's presence on the '00 ticket had me consdering a vote for Nader longer than was reasonable. If only Ralph had made Admiral Stockwell his running mate!
OT: ID cards behind schedule, admits Home Office
Tony Blair's cherished national identity card scheme is in crisis after the Home Office admitted its introduction is likely to be delayed.
The first cards were meant to be introduced in 2008, but that target has been dropped following the review of the department ordered by John Reid after his appointment as Home Secretary. Tendering for contracts for the £5.8bn programme, which would eventually force every adult to provide fingerprint and iris scans, has also been put off until the end of this year.
Mr Reid has already signalled that controversial proposals to merge police forces are to be slowed down - or even scrapped. Last night he faced further embarrassment when his predecessor, Charles Clarke, attacked the mergers U-turn as "weak and damaging" and said it would harm the fight against terrorism.
speaking of W meeting Angela, it turns out that they had to use prop people to meet Bush - you know, like soldiers in civvies, no protestors, etc. just like in the good old days when that part of the country was Communist.
Potemkin, anyone?
speaking of W meeting Angela, it turns out that they had to use prop people to meet Bush - you know, like soldiers in civvies, no protestors, etc. just like in the good old days when that part of the country was Communist.
Potemkin, anyone?
Joe's reality check is bouncing.
OT
Guess which vice president Putin is refering to. (Clue: It's not Aaron Burr - he was good shot.)
In response, Putin said, “I think the statements of your vice president of this sort are the same as an unsuccessful hunting shot. It’s pretty much the same.”
Da!
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The story mentioned in passing a massacre of Jews perpetrated by Poles after WWII. Never heard of that before.
I'd heard that before, but never considered it totally credible (honestly never considered it much at all). However, there was a lot of native anti-Semitism in Poland, and Jews were driven out, so it's certainly possible. Guess I'm gonna have to research it now.
There's a good, if long, article by Nir Rosen at Truthdig about Iraq. It contains the stat that the US has arrested over 50,000 Iraqis during the war, with only 100 found guilty of anything. The US has no mechanism to prosecute them, because the mechanism would have to be a court martial, which under international law would make the US an occupying army. We are in fact beloved liberators
Bush to seek unity on Iran, N.Korea on trip
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush, leaving on Wednesday for Germany and Russia, will urge key allies to stay united in their drive to contain the nuclear ambitions of Iran and North Korea, aides said.
His talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Stralsund, Germany, and with Russian President Vladimir Putin and other leaders at a Group of Eight summit in St. Petersburg are likely to be dominated by what his administration considers twin threats to world peace.
Bush's decision to start his trip by meeting Merkel in her home region is a nod to her growing importance in Europe. Merkel replaced Gerhard Schroeder, who clashed with Bush over the decision to invade Iraq in 2003.
Wonder how that USAirways/America West merger's working out?
I used to be a Useless mileage slut, and still have lots of miles in my account. Let's just say I'm not entirely impressed with the new and improved company, and have been flying Untied more these days.
"Now let's get back to my plans for a pre-emptive strike against North Korea."
masculine_monica_nyc
_______________________________
You're good, Masculine Monica. Yep, that is the bubble that should be over the head in the cartoon.
Yeah, Richardson was definite in saying he didn't care to get involved in Joe's mess.
The US has no mechanism to prosecute them, because the mechanism would have to be a court martial, which under international law would make the US an occupying army.
Actually, we've been officially designated an occupying force since 2003, IIRC, according to UNSC resos.
What I don't understand is the massive disconnect of the backers of the War in Iraq from reality. They read the cables coming back from our people in Baghdad. They know what's happening. Why are they not telling the American people the truth?
We need serious people in Washington who will tell us the truth and we surely don't need anyone like Holy Joe to lie to our faces and tell us that everything is fine and to stay the course.
The time has come to purge these people from government and from the Democratic party. At the end of the day its our party and what happens in our party is decided by us. Lets start with Joe and send a message to everyone listening and all the 2008 hopefuls that this shit will not stand, their day is over, and we're taking our party back.
Guess I'm gonna have to research it now.
NToddos, Coffee Fairy - 9:51 am
i fergit where i read it, but somewhere i recall reading that the Poles went busily about finishing off the Jews whom the Nazis mighta missed...before the Russians established firm control...
good Catholic country, poland...
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Joe drinks the kool-ade laced with neo-con select mushrooms.
Unlike the variety Juan Cole talked about today, these make everything bad seem good and make you hate the world.
Joe's reality check is bouncing.
smalfish, Blaspheming terroris | 07.12.06 - 9:50 am | #
Now I get why Bush has been "bouncing" for years.
Having a hub in Phoenix is gonna be tough if it gets much hotter. 'Course, if you're headed to Charlotte, NC they've got it pretty well sewed up.
There is another thing, too. I'm really surprised that as far as I know no journalist has ever bothered to follow this one up.
If "Holy" Joe is coming anywhere near supporting anything like the El Salvador model, he can write off the support of the Jewish community forever (and risk liberal Judaism deciding to bring back excommunication -- to place him under it).
Many of us remember the days when people, at some albeit small risk, take in quasi-legal refugees from El Salvador. Why was there some risk (albeit one that, fortunately, turned out not to materialize)? The death squads that our government armed were not limitting their roaming to El Salvador but were, requiring the connivance of our government, roaming the streets of the LA area.
If conservatives even mention El Salvador as a good model -- we should ask them: how was it a good model to support terrorist death squads and let terrorists into our country besides?
But then again, from Lebanon to Central America, St. Ronnie always was soft on terrorists: either cutting and running from them or even outright supporting them.
For me, it's about being a Fox News Democrat.
- CoT-Colbert's Apprentice
What a great description of Jofo. And a nice soundbite.
'His talks with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Stralsund, Germany, and with Russian President Vladimir Putin and other leaders at a Group of Eight summit in St. Petersburg are likely to be dominated by what his administration considers twin threats to world peace.'
Hmm. The rest of the world thinks the twin threats are Bush and Cheney.
NToddos, Coffee Fairy
Goddammit, ir you are the Coffee Fairy then where's my goddamn cup.
Dammit!
i fergit where i read it, but somewhere i recall reading that the Poles went busily about finishing off the Jews whom the Nazis mighta missed
Oh I can believe it, sadly..
Oil, it's ALL abouth the o.i.l. Only tell the american people of the little acts of violence they'd expect to hear while embroiled in a peace and democracy bringing mission. It's those damn atrocities that keep slipping through the filter that are fucking up the plan.
Hmm. The rest of the world thinks the twin threats are Bush and Cheney.
The local bartenders think the twin threats are Jenna and Not Jenna.
Truthdig is Robert Scheerer's blog...
he was on Amy the other day...
some folks call him shrill...
i call him "Right the fuck on!"
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Goddammit, ir you are the Coffee Fairy then where's my goddamn cup.
In
Mah
Belly
The local bartenders think the twin threats are Jenna and Not Jenna.
NToddos, Coffee Fairy
Nah, all bartenders love Jenna and NotJenna now that they are of legal drinking age.
"The local bartenders think the twin threats are Jenna and Not Jenna.
NToddos, Coffee Fairy |"
Good One! LOL. Hey, can you bring me a cup of medium roast with half and half?
Indiana has the most terraist targets of any State?
They've been keeping that secret pretty well.
For me, it's about being a Fox News Democrat.
WORD.
Ooo Ooo! NTodd's serving cups of Joe!
The local bartenders think the twin threats are Jenna and Not Jenna.
NToddos, Coffee Fairy
How about that dog, Chelsea?
Holden, there were a lot of massacres of Germans living in Danzig/Gdansk by the Poles after the war. Up to 100,00 I have heard.
There's no such thing as an entirely good guy or an entirely bad guy in wars. It brings out the worst in everybody.
http://www.observer.com/
20060717..._joeconason.asp
Conason makes a connection between Lieberman introducing legislation beneficial to big pharma and his wife's work for a Pharma lobbyist
Oil, it's ALL abouth the o.i.l.
Then why would Verizon, Halliburton, Dow Chemical, Raytheon, Time Warner, hell even Coca-Cola, give much of a damn?
It's about more than oil; don't oversimplify. It sounds silly.
I'd like to say that Bush and his gang of murderers are entirely bad guys.
Indiana has the most terraist targets of any State?
They've been keeping that secret pretty well.
plantsman, lowercase
Didn't the terraist blow up several trains in Indiana just yesterday?
That "Club for Growth" bot on Tweety last night
was hilarious, with his painted smile everything's great spiel.
"There is another thing, too. I'm really surprised that as far as I know no journalist has ever bothered to follow this one up.
If "Holy" Joe is coming anywhere near supporting anything like the El Salvador model, he can write off the support of the Jewish community forever (and risk liberal Judaism deciding to bring back excommunication -- to place him under it)."
Hey, Bush has Negroponte in charge of security now. Joe can just walk a few hundred yards and kiss that face too!
I'll have a Kona roast with Irish cream.
Oh, grab me a cruller, too.
Thanks, you're a prince.
Oh, grab me a cruller, too.
Thanks, you're a prince.
CoT-Colbert's Apprentic
I believe PeasantParty is the Cruller Fairy.
Inja. But the Amish Popcorn Company is a target, so the feds say.
The truthdig article also makes clear how awful US intel is in Iraq. In one story, they hear someone named Ayoub on a tapped telephone say he intends "to move up a level and buy some landmines and guns."
So they find an older guy named Ayoub, rough him up and arrest him. Wrong Ayoub--this one was working for a US phosphate company when the call was made. Betcha didn't know there were US phosphate firms in Iraq.
Then they find the "real' Ayoub. Sttill wrong. This was a kid playing a video game asking a more experienced friend for advice.
ldt, I'll just refer you to the movie Syriana for a better idea of what I'm talking about.
NTodd,
Could get me some Kool Aid while you're up?
NTodd,
Could get me some Kool Aid while you're up?
Joe Lieberman
Nope. Ken Mehlman is the Kool Aid Fairy.
Renaming Auschwits.
Sorta like the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
Holden Caulfield - 9:45 am
From the article: "But Poles say their fellow nationals risked their lives to hide Jews. Poles are the largest group awarded Israel's Righteous Among the Nations title for helping to save Jews."
some did...but a considerable number joined enthusiastically with the Nazis to ferret out, imprison, and execute 'em, too...there was a story about one village, wherein the locals drove all the neighborhood Jews into a barn, set it alight, and shot anyone trying to escape...without any help from the local nazis...
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Well, this clears a lot of stuff up for me, Reuters has finally confirmed what we all knew, Cheney is POTUS!
I know this isn't an open thread but I just had to get this out there.
Inja. But the Amish Popcorn Company is a target, so the feds say.
plantsman, lowercase
Best Amish movie:
Witness or Kingpin? Discuss.
I'm not even interested in any "scorecards" on votes. The way I always thought it was supposed to work is that I elect my representative, he casts his votes and explains to me why he did it, and if I don't like the explanation I don't vote for him the next time around. Best I can tell this is a great part of what is going on in CT now.
But there is another component of the problem with Lieberman. As pointed out, he glories in rubbing mud in the face of the party and those who support it. He's been pulling that crap since he courageously piled on Clinton during the lowest point of his Presidency. He lends his name to Bush's scheme to eliminate Social Security, and bashes Democrats as he does it. He leads off the debate for the Republicans in the Iraq debate, a gratuitous act of disrespect to his Democratic colleagues. He marches in the parades with Republican candidates. It goes on and on. That stuff, as has been pointed out, matters.
He can hold contrary positions, but he's using his very public dissent for personal political gain at he expense of the country and party. It's a pure strain of Republican-style opportunism and selfishness, and Democrats in CT don't have to take it.
Nope. Ken Mehlman is the Kool Aid Fairy.
Well, that's UNFAIR....
"I believe PeasantParty is the Cruller Fairy.
Holden Caulfield"
I wish upon a star. Nah, nothing here except Lemon filled doughnuts.
Abbra kaddabra gitchie gooey Cruellers!
BLAM!
Sheesh, just doughnuts.
"Wonder how that USAirways/America West merger's working out?"
Used to fly USAirways on east coast and it generally was okay, not great but okay. Just flew with family on AmericaWest from CT to Arizona/Spokane and it was bad. Reservations systems was so bad, couldn't find our tickets. The guy at the counter was fine, worked hard to find the tix and assign seats but man, the computer system must have been based on the original Univac.
On the other hand, AmerficaWest in the west actually was okay, so maybe it's just that they're new to the east coast.
The IHT had a story yesterday about a Morrocan that was arrested and sent to an Afghan jail for at least a year, and tortured because the person listening in on a conversation he was having in Arabic in Tunisia, misinterpreted his slang word for "tire" to mean "airplane". It took the Americans a year to beat the story out of him because he had no idea when he had talked about airplanes. When he figured it out, they just let him go. One year of prison and torture for an interpreter's mistake.
You're all just a bunch of meanies!
Following up on the Chairman Hoekstra quote below apparently he's now actually accusing members of the US intel community of working with and/or for al Qaida, just as his quote below suggests. I hear there's a big article on this about to pop. So I guess we'll be hearing more very soon.
-- Josh Marshall
Josh Marshall
plantsman, lowercase
That Hoekstra dood has been a busy beaver lately. He's also in the news today lambasting the Bush Assministration for classifying too many of the documents they stole from Iraq.
The peasants would vote for me if they knew what was good for them.
Why, without my seniority, liberals would be in the position they are in today.
So they find an older guy named Ayoub, rough him up and arrest him. Wrong Ayoub
Come on, don't you know that if someone has a name that is unfamiliar to me, there can't possibly be more than one of them.
Besides, they all know each other in those countries anyway.
(/"intel" expert)
Wasn't there a time a few years ago when America West kept misplacing children they allowed to fly alone?
I'll just refer you to the movie Syriana for a better idea of what I'm talking about.
mimi
I do have to see that. I just saw The Constant Gardener this past week.
OMG - Thank you, Ian for that Joe Conanson link - here's snippet:
Mrs. Lieberman signed up with Hill & Knowlton in March 2005. The firm’s clients included GlaxoSmithKline, the British pharmaceutical giant that manufactures flu vaccines along with many other drugs. In April 2005, Mr. Lieberman introduced a bill that would award an array of new government “incentives” to companies like GSK to produce more vaccines—notably patent extensions on other products, at a cost of billions to governments and consumers.
That legislation provoked irritated comment by his hometown newspaper, the New Haven Register. In an editorial headlined “Lieberman Crafts Drug Company Perk,” the Register noted that his bill was even more generous to the pharmaceutical industry than a similar proposal by the Senate Republican leadership. “The government can offer incentives and guarantees for needed public health measures,” said the editorial. “But it should not write a blank check, as these bills do, to the pharmaceutical industry that has such a large cost to the public with what may be an uncertain or dubious return".
No doubt Mr. Lieberman would do the bidding of the pharmaceutical lobby whether his wife was on their payroll or not, but this kind of coincidence is best avoided by a man who lectures the world about morality and ethics.
The Senator has demanded that Mr. Lamont release his income-tax returns, which must mean that he plans to do likewise. His latest financial disclosure lists Mrs. Lieberman’s compensation from Hill Knowlton only as “more than $1000.” Presumably his tax returns will show how much more—and measure his distance from the people he represents.
wow - that's damaging!!
They see a self-destructive urge for party purification sweeping over Democratic liberals, to the detriment of Democratic prospects.
Pardon my insistance on ideological purity here, but, in this otherwise excellent column in which Meyerson challenges the idea that the backers of Lamont seek ideological purity, something seems askew ... hmmm ...
< snark > Of course, we all know that "party purification" is so "self-destructive" based on, e.g., how self-destructive for the Republicans it was for "The Club for Growth" to insist on it ... right? < / snark >
Hoekstra, busy AND unhinged.
And I don't care if Chimpy is back up to 40% in the latest Gallup poll, I ain't returning no ponies.
Following up on the Chairman Hoekstra quote below apparently he's now actually accusing members of the US intel community of working with and/or for al Qaida, just as his quote below suggests. I hear there's a big article on this about to pop. So I guess we'll be hearing more very soon.
-- Josh Marshall
and possibly an 'official' re-spinning of the missing WMD story???
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"The peasants would vote for me if they knew what was good for them."
Joe, my Constituents can't vote for someone that supports a party that steals elections. They demand their Democracy. I think you need to worry about your image more.
Well, at least one member of the pundit class isn't swooning from the vapors over the mere idea that anyone else would run for an incumbent's seat. Frankly, I've been amazed that the keening chorus of "Poor Joe!" hasn't been answered at every point with, "since when did winning a six-year term entitle the winner to never again facing political challenge? Since when did a six-year term become a lifetime appointment?" This whole thing is inestimably stupid. It's not "Joe's seat". It belongs to the people of Connecticut, and there's nothing uncivil about them making the decision to remove Joe from it - or return him to it - for whatever reasons they deem appropriate.
Following up on the Chairman Hoekstra quote below apparently he's now actually accusing members of the US intel community of working with and/or for al Qaida, just as his quote below suggests. I hear there's a big article on this about to pop. So I guess we'll be hearing more very soon.
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This wouldn't be surprising. There are a lot in the intelligence community who seem to have "gone native" and forgotten where their loyalties lay. A good housecleaning is in order, and has been underway.
Following up on the Chairman Hoekstra quote below apparently he's now actually accusing members of the US intel community of working with and/or for al Qaida, just as his quote below suggests. I hear there's a big article on this about to pop. So I guess we'll be hearing more very soon.
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This wouldn't be surprising. There are a lot in the intelligence community who seem to have "gone native" and forgotten where their loyalties lay. A good housecleaning is in order, and has been underway.
members of the US intel community of working with and/or for al Qaida
Gilliard this morning said: "So when they find the AQ network in DHS, will anyone be surprised. This much stupidity has to be on purpose."
The dateline for Michael Ware's comments: November 2005 -- i.e. just over a Friedman ago.
Of course, he made those comments on Air America, which means they don't exist in the media firmament. Anyone got audio? Crooks & Liars?
Porter Goss got swept out, certainly.
Is Michael Ware that very articulate Australian or Kiwi bloke?
"Following up on the Chairman Hoekstra quote below apparently he's now actually accusing members of the US intel community of working with and/or for al Qaida, just as his quote below suggests. I hear there's a big article on this about to pop. So I guess we'll be hearing more very soon."
He is still using the talking points from the Admin. I read where they all believed the CIA was out to get them so they revamped it with Goss. That didn't work out so well, so they revamped again with Hayden. There all just a bunch of Vamps, Scamps and, oh I forget the song.
OT: Israel calls Hizbollah capture of soldiers act of war
QASMIYEH, Lebanon (Reuters) - Hizbollah guerrillas captured two Israeli soldiers and killed up to seven Israelis on Wednesday, in what Israel described as an act of war by Lebanon that would draw a "very painful" response.
Israel mobilized a reserve infantry division and Hizbollah declared an all-out military alert.
Two Lebanese civilians were killed in an Israeli air strike on a coastal bridge at Qasmiyeh. Four other bridges in the south were hit and five Lebanese were wounded, security sources said.
The sources said the Israeli soldiers had been seized at around 9 a.m. (0600 GMT) across the border from Aita al-Shaab, some 15 km (nine miles) from the Mediterranean coast.
Please go over to Kos and read this short essay on the flag by a 6th grader.
It can't be long before the wingnuts start threatening her.
"And I don't care if Chimpy is back up to 40% in the latest Gallup poll, I ain't returning no ponies.
Holden Caulfield "
HUH? That has to be a Faux news poll.
No, you can't give back ponies. They've been branded already.
But as chair of the committee, Hoekstra batting at Bushco over lack of briefings actually got some coverage. Pickles, gotta tell ya how much I loved that pink knit pantsuit you wore to Germany!
And the story on November 8???
All about how the Dems blew their chance to gain seats on a weak repub. party in Congress because of; a) incompetence, and b) they spent their entire summer fighting over Joe v. Ned....a battle that does not gain us one Senate seat.
Truly shocking, how incompetent we are.
Chimpy, March 22, 2006:
So I changed our foreign policy. I said, freedom is universal; history has proven democracies do not fight each other, democracies can yield peace we want, so let's advance freedom. And that's what's happening.
[snip]
Democracies don't war.
And Today:
The Israeli forces entered Lebanon soon after the 9 a.m. abduction [of two Israeli soldiers]. At least three soldiers were killed in a blast involving one of the tanks, Israeli officials said. Preliminary reports said four other soldiers also had been killed.
In southern Lebanon, fighter jets bombed five bridges in quick succession, effectively cutting off that region from the rest of the country, civil defense officials said. At least two Lebanese civilians were killed in one of the bridge strikes, and a power plant was badly damaged.
Air strikes hit the cities of Marjuyun and Kfar Shouba. Warships were shelling Lebanon, Israeli news agencies reported, and witnesses said Katyusha rockets were being fired from the western part of the border into Israel, close to the Mediterranean Sea.
Please go over to Kos and read this short essay on the flag by a 6th grader.
It can't be long before the wingnuts start threatening her.
Doc
Gesetz über die Bushjugend.
OT, but hilarious response to the wingnut who believed the Onion abortion parody: http://marchtogetheragainst.blog...t.blogspot.com/
Kofi Annan decried both the kidnapping of the two Israeli soldiers by Hizbollah and Israel's incursions into Lebanon.
HUH? That has to be a Faux news poll.
No, you can't give back ponies. They've been branded already.
PeasantParty
41% in the Fox poll, 40% in Gallup. Apparently Republikkkans have forgiven his lack of hatred for immigrants.
Hooty hoo! Hooty hoo!
Apparently Republikkkans have forgiven his lack of hatred for immigrants.
Only because he started hating them more, like the base wants.
In southern Lebanon, fighter jets bombed five bridges in quick succession, effectively cutting off that region from the rest of the country, civil defense officials said. At least two Lebanese civilians were killed in one of the bridge strikes, and a power plant was badly damaged.
Fighter planes, bombs and rockets all stamped "Made in the USA".
Mr. President, please tell us why they hate us.
HUH? That has to be a Faux news poll.
Nope, it's Gallup. Inched back up to 40 in the latest. And hey, he's been around 43 in Assmussen for a few days. Guess he's got his mandate back.
Hooty hoo! Hooty hoo!
Nip it. In. The. Bud.
Where did all the chicks go?
Does anyone know whether the list of "national assets" has been posted by the Homeland Security people? I am very curious about the 8,000+ sites in Indiana. I grew up there and I have trouble thinking of anything a terrorist could possibly be interested in.
Mr. President, please tell us why they hate us.
Because you have a nickname on a blog, thus proving you aren't serious about peace.
Fighter planes, bombs and rockets all stamped "Made in the USA".
Mr. President, please tell us why they hate us.
You dare to disparage the "special relationship", heretic!!
Because you have a nickname on a blog, thus proving you aren't serious about peace.
NToddos, Coffee Fairy
Oh sorry, I forgot.
Is Michael Ware that very articulate Australian or Kiwi bloke?
Aussie. Spent the early months in Fallujah tracking the insurgency. Quite obviously has cojones the size of watermelons.
Gilliard this morning said: "So when they find the AQ network in DHS, will anyone be surprised. This much stupidity has to be on purpose."
masculine_monica_nyc
I've got a list of known Communists errr... al Qaeda agents that have infiltrated the State Dept errr.... DHS errr... the CIA.
First one's name is Bauer, Jack...
rabid lambs!
I sent Meyerson a letter: I hope it doesn't frighten him away from liberal bloggers (btw -- this whole lefties frightening away more moderate lefties meme: how true is it? they claim this is how neo-cons become conservative, but did the far left really scare them away? and if so, what does that say about the strength of their convictions and their bravery -- for which they are often lauded?):
Mr. Meyerson,
As one of those "crazy lefty bloggers", I am writing to personally thank you for your column explaining the reasons for the degree of support for Ned Lamont among net-roots liberals. Indeed, the idea that we in the liberal blogging community are motivated purely by ideological purity or rank partisanship is easily dis proven by the degree of support received from net-roots liberals to the moderate Senator Harry Reid and to that occasional master of bipartisanship Senator Russ Feingold. As your column points out, the opposition to Sen. Lieberman's re-election amongst the liberal net-roots community is based not just on his vehement support of the war in Iraq but also his divergence from the desires of the electorate on issues ranging from social security and trade. Moreover, even in many areas where Lieberman's voting record on bills reflects the liberal mind-set of many in the Northeast, the procedural votes he makes, which votes are often the real votes that make or break proposed legislation, often reflect neither the political views of his constituents nor even his own stated political views, which puzzling votes make one question not his ideological purity but rather the formerly highly capable Lieberman's competence to continue as a legislator.
Actually Sen. Lieberman's procedural votes and political behavior in general rather seem to reflect a misguided sense, shared by many in the media, that partisanship and politics are so inherently tainted, one must be politically tone deaf to be considered a "statesman" and always be "bipartisan" and side with the other party as much as one's own regardless of the merits of siding with one party over another (although this criticism of partisanship seems to only be leveled against Democrats and not Republicans, but that is a whole other issue of media coverage). While real bipartisan compromise is generally to be admired and is politically valuable besides, to use a talking point used by those of us who, like Senator Lieberman, are supportive of Israel, to seek compromise without a willing partner with which to compromise -- and the incredibly partisan Republican party that evolved during the Clinton era rarely demonstrates itself to be such a willing partner -- is naive and to compromise in such a way as to undermine the very causes in which you believe bespeaks a lack of integrity not a surplus of it. In a way, Senator Lieberman has become the exact opposite of the honorable yet realistic politician he is, based on his earlier voting record and behavior appropriately, reputed to be and
[letter cont.]
and which the media still portrays him as.
That so many, who are supposedly experts in political thinking and machinations, would portray the opposition of the liberal net-roots to Lieberman's re-election, an opposition which is about so much more than Lieberman's voting record on bills per se, as a sign that we are frightening in our demands for ideological purity is so misguided as to be bizarre. Thank you for finally expressing in an opinion column how many of us actually think in what we self-deprecatingly call "left blogistan".
On the other hand, if you'll allow me to be a jihadist crazed nit-picker, I feel this need to point out that, while questioning its application to liberal net-roots support for the Lamont campaign, you do not challenge the fundamental and flawed assumption of commentators, who "see a self-destructive urge for party purification sweeping over Democratic liberals, to the detriment of Democratic prospects", that party purification is almost necessarily self-destructive. While many pundits have claimed that those of us who seek to restore the Democratic party to being the successful, unabashedly liberal party it was in previous generations, are self-destructive in our desire for "party purification", that such a linkage between "party purification" and "self-destructiveness" remains unquestioned is rather odd, considering that the Republicans have achieved some of their greatest electoral successes in the history of their party during and following a wave of party purification carried out by the likes of the "Club for Growth". To claim that the desire of those of us in the liberal net-roots that the Democrats have some sort of identifiable liberal "brand" is self-destructive while not considering that since party purification worked for the Republicans it may very well work for the Democrats or even mentioning such organizations as the "Club for Growth" when discussing, e.g, the influence of 527 organizations on political parties, is a bizarre omission made by too many commentators and evidences an odd double standard among the commentariat. In the opinion of this "crazy lefty blogger", any discussion of any desire on the part of the liberal net-roots to enforce "party purity" without reference to the lack of self-destructiveness of similar efforts on the right is necessarily incomplete. Certainly, though, any clarification as to the real and honorable motivations of the liberal net-roots is much appreciated.
Paste these suckers up all over the great state of Connecticut.
Is Michael Ware that very articulate Australian or Kiwi bloke?
Morning Sedition used to have him on once a week. Always fascinating. So of course AAR had to kill the show.
Hey, somebody has to stand up for the all-important principle of Joe Lieberman...and Lieberman is just the guy to do it.
Very strange that the article discusses the six other Democratic senators in the nearby states, but there is no mention of Christopher Dodd:
The six other Democrats from the nearest states -- Jack Reed from Rhode Island, Charles Schumer and Hillary Clinton from New York, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry from Massachusetts, Patrick Leahy from Vermont -- averaged 97 percent during those three years. Lieberman's ADA rating of 80 percent last year tied Florida's Bill Nelson for the second-lowest among Senate Democrats.
It is hard to imagine anyone forgetting any of the other six senators, but they somehow forgot Dodd. And he is running for President? I’d love for him to take a stand on something to raise his visibility, and a great way to start would be to back Lamont!
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Of course Joe has to go on supporting the President. Joe is an Israeli too, remember, and we in Iraq are fighting as Israel'e proxy.
Of course Joe has to go on supporting the President. Joe is an Israeli too, remember, and we in Iraq are fighting as Israel'e proxy. - maunga
Actually we are not. That is just as much admin propaganda (to get people like Holy Joe aboard) as "we're liberating Iraq". Of course it says something about people like Holy Joe that they would so happily act according to the worst anti-Semitic stereotypes (and I know Jews who are proud of the fact that "the goyim in the US are supporting Israel's war" -- how twisted is that?), but it doesn't mean that the admin really is doing Israel's bidding.
Heck -- even "we're in Iraq to secure a supply of cheap oil" was admin propaganda to gain the support of "realists" and make hippies made so that Eric Cartman types would support the war out of spite against hippies.
The real reasons for the war were helpfully outlined by the PNAC itself (they are like cartoon villains in their degree of cackling honesty at times): we in Iraq to maintain a presence in the ME (which itself does have to do with oil and Israel, to be sure) but in a manner that appeases Al Qaeda by getting us out of Saudi Arabia and allows them to operate freely in the chaos of post-Hussein Iraq. Those who ignore this point of the war -- having permanent bases in Iraq (and appeasing Al Qaeda) -- or worse, view those of us who actually listened to the PNAC as loony tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists -- whether on the left or right -- whether supporting the war or spinning their own conspiracy theories about the war being for Israel's sake directly or for cheap oil (if anything, the war is about keeping oil expensive! and it has been successful, nu? if it were about cheap oil, you'd think we'd have cheap oil -- after all, BushCO types didn't get as rich as they are by being that incompetent even though they currently act that way for fun and profit) -- are ignoring the obvious truth of why we are in Iraq and merely buying into and spreading admin propaganda ...
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