Spin isn't gonna work with the 'folks' this time!!
Wouje | 09.03.05 - 5:13 pm | #

Bush must resign along with all the rest.

he should be charged with manslaughter and put in prison.

we can begin the process of forcing them all out now right here.
splashmonkey | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:14 pm | #

Oh, sure. The media will just start repeating their lies, and pretty soon sheeple will believe that they're fact.
Rachel | 09.03.05 - 5:16 pm | #

THE BIG ONE
from The New Orleans Times-Picayune, 2002

(This story was published three years ago.)
A major hurricane could decimate the region, but flooding from even a moderate storm could kill thousands. It's just a matter of time.
By Mark Schleifstein and John McQuaid
Staff writers
The line of splintered planks, trash and seaweed scattered along the slope of New Orleans' lakefront levees on Hayne Boulevard in late September 1998 marked more than just the wake of Hurricane Georges. It measured the slender margin separating the city from mass destruction.
The debris, largely the remains of about 70 camps smashed by the waves of a storm surge more than 7 feet above sea level, showed that Georges, a Category 2 storm that only grazed New Orleans, had pushed waves to within a foot of the top of the levees. A stronger storm on a slightly different course -- such as the path Georges was on just 16 hours before landfall -- could have realized emergency officials' worst-case scenario: hundreds of billions of gallons of lake water pouring over the levees into an area averaging 5 feet below sea level with no natural means of drainage.
That would turn the city and the east bank of Jefferson Parish into a lake as much as 30 feet deep, fouled with chemicals and waste from ruined septic systems, businesses and homes. Such a flood could trap hundreds of thousands of people in buildings and in vehicles. At the same time, high winds and tornadoes would tear at everything left standing. Between 25,000 and 100,000 people would die, said John Clizbe, national vice president for disaster services with the American Red Cross.
"A catastrophic hurricane represents 10 or 15 atomic bombs in terms of the energy it releases," said Joseph Suhayda, a Louisiana State University engineer who is studying ways to limit hurricane damage in the New Orleans area. "Think about it. New York lost two big buildings. Multiply that by 10 or 20 or 30 in the area impacted and the people lost, and we know what could happen."
Hundreds of thousands would be left homeless, and it would take months to dry out the area and begin to make it livable. But there wouldn't be much for residents to come home to. The local economy would be in ruins.
The scene has been played out for years in computer models and emergency-operations simulations. Officials at the local, state and national level are convinced the risk is genuine and are devising plans for alleviating the aftermath of a disaster that could leave the city uninhabitable for six months or more. The Army Corps of Engineers has begun a study to see whether the levees should be raised to counter the threat. But officials say that right now, nothing can stop "the big one."
Like coastal Bangladesh, where typhoons killed 100,000 and 300,000 villagers, respectively, in two horrific storms in 1970 and 1991, the New Orleans area lies in a low, flat coastal area. Unlike Bangladesh, New Orleans has hurricane levees that create a bowl with the bottom dipping lower than the bottom of Lake Pontchartrain. Though providing protection from weaker storms, the levees also would trap any water that gets inside -- by breach, overtopping or torrential downpour -- in a catastrophic storm.
"Filling the bowl" is the worst potential scenario for a natural disaster in the United States, emergency officials say. The Red Cross' projected death toll dwarfs estimates of 14,000 dead from a major earthquake along the New Madrid, Mo., fault, and 4,500 dead from a similar catastrophic earthquake hitting San Francisco, the next two deadliest disasters on the agency's list.
The projected death and destruction eclipse almost any other natural disaster that people paid to think about catastrophes can dream up. And the risks are significant, especially over the long term. In a given year, for example, the corps says the risk of the lakefront levees being topped is less than 1 in 300. But over the life of a 30-year mortgage, statistically that risk approaches 9 percent.
In the past year, Federal Emergency Management Agency officials have begun working with state and local agencies to devise plans on what to do if a Category 5 hurricane strikes New Orleans.
Shortly after he took office, FEMA Director Joe Allbaugh ordered aides to examine the nation's potential major catastrophes, including the New Orleans scenario.
"Catastrophic disasters are best defined in that they totally outstrip local and state resources, which is why the federal government needs to play a role," Allbaugh said. "There are a half-dozen or so contingencies around the nation that cause me great concern, and one of them is right there in your back yard."
In concert with state and local officials, FEMA is studying evacuation procedures, postdisaster rescue strategies, temporary housing and technical issues such as how to pump out water trapped inside the levees, said Michael Lowder, chief of policy and planning in FEMA's Readiness, Response and Recovery directorate. A preliminary report should be completed in the next few months.
Louisiana emergency management officials say they lobbied the agency for years to study how to respond to New Orleans' vulnerability, finally getting attention last year.
With computer modeling of hurricanes and storm surges, disaster experts have developed a detailed picture of how a storm could push Lake Pontchartrain over the levees and into the city.
"The worst case is a hurricane moving in from due south of the city," said Suhayda, who has developed a computer simulation of the flooding from such a storm. On that track, winds on the outer edges of a huge storm system would be pushing water in Breton Sound and west of the Chandeleur Islands into the St. Bernard marshes and then Lake Pontchartrain for two days before landfall.
"Water is literally pumped into Lake Pontchartrain," Suhayda said. "It will try to flow through any gaps, and that means the Inner Harbor Navigation Canal (which is connected to Breton Sound by the Mississippi River-Gulf Outlet) and the Chef Menteur and the Rigolets passes.
"So now the lake is 5 to 8 feet higher than normal, and we're talking about a lake that's only 15 or 20 feet deep, so you're adding a third to a half as much water to the lake," Suhayda said. As the eye of the hurricane moves north, next to New Orleans but just to the east, the winds over the lake switch around to come from the north.
"As the eye impacts the Mississippi coastline, the winds are now blowing south across the lake, maybe at 50, 80, 100 mph, and all that water starts to move south," he said. "It's moving like a big army advancing toward the lake's hurricane-protection system. And then the winds themselves are generating waves, 5 to 10 feet high, on top of all that water. They'll be breaking and crashing along the sea wall."
Soon waves will start breaking over the levee.
"All of a sudden you'll start seeing flowing water. It'll look like a weir, water just pouring over the top," Suhayda said. The water will flood the lakefront, filling up low-lying areas first, and continue its march south toward the river. There would be no stopping or slowing it; pumping systems would be overwhelmed and submerged in a matter of hours.
"Another scenario is that some part of the levee would fail," Suhayda said. "It's not something that's expected. But erosion occurs, and as levees broke, the break will get wider and wider. The water will flow through the city and stop only when it reaches the next higher thing. The most continuous barrier is the south levee, along the river. That's 25 feet high, so you'll see the water pile up on the river levee."
As the floodwaters invade and submerge neighborhoods, the wind will be blowing at speeds of at least 155 mph, accompanied by shorter gusts of as much as 200 mph, meteorologists say, enough to overturn cars, uproot trees and toss people around like dollhouse toys.
The wind will blow out windows and explode many homes, even those built to the existing 110-mph building-code standards. People seeking refuge from the floodwaters in high-rise buildings won't be very safe, recent research indicates, because wind speed in a hurricane gets greater with height. If the winds are 155 mph at ground level, scientists say, they may be 50 mph stronger 100 feet above street level.
Buildings also will have to withstand pummeling by debris picked up by water surging from the lakefront toward downtown, with larger pieces acting like battering rams.
Ninety percent of the structures in the city are likely to be destroyed by the combination of water and wind accompanying a Category 5 storm, said Robert Eichorn, former director of the New Orleans Office of Emergency Preparedness. The LSU Hurricane Center surveyed numerous large public buildings in Jefferson Parish in hopes of identifying those that might withstand such catastrophic winds. They found none.
Amid this maelstrom, the estimated 200,000 or more people left behind in an evacuation will be struggling to survive. Some will be housed at the Superdome, the designated shelter in New Orleans for people too sick or infirm to leave the city. Others will end up in last-minute emergency refuges that will offer minimal safety. But many will simply be on their own, in homes or looking for high ground.
Thousands will drown while trapped in homes or cars by rising water. Others will be washed away or crushed by debris. Survivors will end up trapped on roofs, in buildings or on high ground surrounded by water, with no means of escape and little food or fresh water, perhaps for several days.
"If you look at the World Trade Center collapsing, it'll be like that, but add water," Eichorn said. "There will be debris flying around, and you're going to be in the water with snakes, rodents, nutria and fish from the lake. It's not going to be nice."
Mobilized by FEMA, search and resc
Wild Weasel | 09.03.05 - 5:16 pm | #

SPIN, JUST LIKE A HURRICANE DOES!

BTW anyone else as sick of this Ben Stein as I am? He as a speech writer for Richard Nixon during the Watergate era.
Oops! | 09.03.05 - 5:17 pm | #

Per the mission statement on the DHS website (posted earlier), DHS has PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY for disaster mgmnt.
http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/ the...theme_home2.jsp
Preparing America

In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort. The new Department will also prioritize the important issue of citizen preparedness. Educating America´s families on how best to prepare their homes for a disaster and tips for citizens on how to respond in a crisis will be given special attention at DHS.
observant | 09.03.05 - 5:18 pm | #

Family Values.
blue | 09.03.05 - 5:19 pm | #

Does the buck ever stop getting passed in the Bush administration?

Whaaaaa!!! Mommy, Poppi's gotta buy me a new country. Outside forces outa my control have trashed this place bettern I did Arbusto!
President Satan | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:19 pm | #

They can keep on spinning. Public perception out of their control now. And every minute they spend doing this weaves the web of their coming demise. The Bush Republicans will not survive this.
Cdn Looking South | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:19 pm | #

Nobody could have known that planes could fly into buildings, levees could break, wind can cause damage, lack of food and water can lead to death, unsanitary conditions can lead to disease, a population abandoned will descend into anarchy etc etc etc.

Eveybody knows that Bush will never know
JDS | 09.03.05 - 5:21 pm | #

None of that crap makes any sense. When you plan out a worst-case hurricanev scenario, you'd automatically include the weakened, outdated levees failing - just because they're pretty much what is keeping New Orleans out of the Atlantic Ocean.

What the fuck WERE they planning for?

Joshau Norton | 09.03.05 - 5:21 pm | #

Lies, lies, and more lies. Besides, anyone with a television and an Internet connection knew late Friday 8-26 that Katrina would most likely hit the New orleans area and on early Tuesday morning 8-30 that the levees were giving way. These two bit bureaucratic pieces of shit are covering their asses. If Bush were a real leader let alone a real man he would have fired their lame asses already. I am so pissed at the needless loss of lives... first tens and maybe hundreds of thousands in Iraq, and now likely way more than 10,000 in New Orleans. Yet the right-wing "Christians" still think the guy is God's gift to the planet. Wait until they find out the truth - that W is really the spawn of the devil himself...
mtnman | 09.03.05 - 5:22 pm | #

Joshua, this article states pretty plainly what they were planning for:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.p...925- 1077495.php
Scott | 09.03.05 - 5:23 pm | #

I guess Chertoff doesn't read FEMA's own website because right there is their National Situation Update for one week today, Saturday, August 27, 2005.

http://www.fema.gov/emanagers/20.../ nat082705.shtm

Look for yourself, it's even in large, bolded typeface:

"State of Emergency Declared in Mississippi, Louisiana Due In anticipation of a possible landfall, Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour and Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco declared States of Emergency Friday. In Louisiana, New Orleans is of particular concern because much of that city lies below sea level.
According to Gov. Blanco, Lake Pontchartrain is a very large lake that sits next to the city of New Orleans and if the hurricane winds blow from a certain direction, there are dire predictions of what may happen in the city."
karen | 09.03.05 - 5:23 pm | #

This was on the episode of BBC World News which played on a local (Philadelphia area) PBS station at 6:00 am this morning.

A: Now I'm sure you're aware of the criticism that the authorities have been slow to respond to this. When did you get the order to start relied work?

K: NorthCom started planning before the storm even hit. We were ready for the storm when it hit Florida because, as you remember, it crossed the bottom part of Florida, and then we were plaining, you know, once it was pointed towards the Gulf Coast. So what we did was we activated what we call defense coordinating officers to work with the state to say okay, what do you think you'll need, and we set up staging bases that could be started. We had the USS Baton sailing almost behind the hurricane so that after the hurricane made landfall it's search and rescue helicopters would be available almost immediately. So we had things ready. The only caveat is, we have to wait until the President authorizes us to do so. The laws of the United States say that the military can't just act in this fashion, we have to wait for the President to give us permission.
sarah | 09.03.05 - 5:23 pm | #

Grr... Keeps rejecting my post:

Uggabugga caught Mike Brown in a lie!!!

PBS News Hour interview:

MIKE BROWN: Well, let me answer the question two ways: First, with regard to the evacuation of the Superdome and the convention center, we have had an ongoing supply food and water to there. They've had meals every day that they've been there.

That was BEFORE his "We didn't know about the convention center claim!
Lis Riba | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:23 pm | #

Basic bedrock lesson learned - You can't expect good government from a party that believes government is bad.

http://cluefactory.blogspot.com/
Joyce | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:24 pm | #

I'm not sure what you mean, but if any bucks go around the office and I see them, they end up in my pocket - if George doesn't get it first!
Ahhhh... the games we elites play as cities are destroyed!
Dick Cheney | 09.03.05 - 5:24 pm | #

Resign? LOL...dream on.
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 5:24 pm | #

BTW, Chertoff damn near looks like "death warmed over", a soul-less ghoul in an Administration of cruel and wicked human beings.
mtnman | 09.03.05 - 5:24 pm | #

The world is watching in utter disbelief! El País in Madrid's lead story is Hurrican Katrina -- six related stories are also on their mainpage.

Spaniards are discussing Bush's policy effects on global climate chnage. They are discussing the racist element of the evacuation failure.

President, the world is going to hold you accountable, even if Americans don't.
unpoetaloco | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:24 pm | #

I agree. This administration wont get a pass from MSM or the public this time. Reporters aren't buying it, no one is. They are going down and at this point every lie only insures it.
II | 09.03.05 - 5:25 pm | #

Holy shit - they've started shooting the victims!

http://today.reuters.com/news/ne...HELPLESS- DC.XML

"...Police here refused to discuss or confirm either incident. National Guard spokesman Lt. Col Pete Schneider said "I have not heard any information of a weapon being discharged."

"They killed a man here last night," Steve Banka, 28, told Reuters. "A young lady was being raped and stabbed. And the sounds of her screaming got to this man and so he ran out into the street to get help from troops, to try to flag down a passing truck of them, and he jumped up on the truck's windshield and they shot him dead."

Wade Batiste, 48, recounted another tale of horror.

"Last night at 8 p.m. they shot a kid of just 16. He was just crossing the street. They ran him over, the New Orleans police did, and then they got out of the car and shot him in the head," Batiste said.

The young man's body lay in the street by the Convention Center's entrance on Saturday morning, covered in a black blanket, a stream of congealed blood staining the street around him. Nearby his family sat in shock...
Scott | 09.03.05 - 5:25 pm | #

Lis Riba, thanx for the tip. I was wondering if he had mentioned the convention center before he denied knowing it existed.
Gryn | 09.03.05 - 5:32 pm | #

W is really the spawn of the devil himself...

Aw, was it my widdle pointed tail? Chill the spawn stuff...Poppi thought he was the Grand Master but I am the real Prince of Darkness!!!
President Satan | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:32 pm | #

They should have said that Katrina was a woman in a coma hidden some where in NO and her husband is trying to pull the plug on her. The whole goddamm congress would have descended on NO with an army and maybe some food and water. 100,000 poor people does not do the trick.

I hate all these miserable bastards.
JDS | 09.03.05 - 5:33 pm | #

they managed to talk themselves out of the sins of history and out of no-fault American slavery; and on into Roberts' no privacy and no more civil rights...

how is Falwell et al still possible?
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 5:35 pm | #

Bush's Culture Of Life Is Now On Display in New Orleans.
kerplunk | 09.03.05 - 5:36 pm | #

The right to life, I guess that doesn't apply to black folk, only rich white folk.
Stu | 09.03.05 - 5:39 pm | #

Bush's Culture Of Life

All they have is a Culture of Low Life.

Joshau Norton | 09.03.05 - 5:40 pm | #

Bush's Culture of life? It's more like Culture of Strife... perpetual strife at that.
mtnman | 09.03.05 - 5:42 pm | #

Did Everyone but me know that Carl Strock, Head of Army Corps of Engineers who's lying for Bu$h in NO - nah, no relationship between drowning of NO & cutting of funds for levee maintenance, etc., etc - is the same guy who fired the Top Pentagon Official in Contract Oversight, Bunnatine Greenhouse, for challenging the no bid contracts given to Halliburton. link
Joanne | 09.03.05 - 5:42 pm | #

wbush=mabus ?
anon | 09.03.05 - 5:43 pm | #

"None of that crap makes any sense. When you plan out a worst-case hurricanev scenario, you'd automatically include the weakened, outdated levees failing - just because they're pretty much what is keeping New Orleans out of the Atlantic Ocean."

Actually, that's Lake Pontchartrain that's flooding the city. NOLA is nowhere near the ocean.
Anastasia | 09.03.05 - 5:51 pm | #

Hey is there a big email list of major news outlets/correspondents/anchors that we can hammer with emails demanding that they challenge these so-called "officials" on all their PROVEN LIES?

God I hate them.
MoxieGrrrl | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 5:56 pm | #

Reading Reuters rpt. linked above, reminds us that there are also Savages among the hurricane survivors, which lends some context to the above extracted story. Another excerpt on existence in dome:

"There is rapes going on here. Women cannot go to the bathroom without men. They are raping them and slitting their throats. They keep telling us the buses are coming but they never leave," she said through tears.
Joanne | 09.03.05 - 5:59 pm | #

Reading Reuters rpt. linked above, reminds us that there are also Savages among the hurricane survivors, which lends some context to the above extracted story. Another excerpt on existence in dome:

"There is rapes going on here. Women cannot go to the bathroom without men. They are raping them and slitting their throats. They keep telling us the buses are coming but they never leave," she said through tears.
Joanne | 09.03.05 - 5:59 pm | #

HELP HELP HELP, did anyone catch the new interview on CNN with the mayor of NO. He said something like the CIA was going to wipe him out if he kept asking for resources. Does any one have access to this video? Get this out.
Strawberrybitch | 09.03.05 - 6:08 pm | #

the freaking mayor said on national TV the the levees were not gonna hold up. During the initial evacuation.
alex | 09.03.05 - 6:09 pm | #

From the FEMA National Situation update from a week a ago, before the storm hit :

"State of Emergency Declared in Mississippi, Louisiana DueIn anticipation of a possible landfall, Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour and Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco declared States of Emergency Friday. In Louisiana, New Orleans is of particular concern because much of that city lies below sea level.
According to Gov. Blanco, Lake Pontchartrain is a very large lake that sits next to the city of New Orleans and if the hurricane winds blow from a certain direction, there are dire predictions of what may happen in the city."


http://www.fema.gov/emanagers/20.../ nat082705.shtm
Richard | 09.03.05 - 6:17 pm | #

No this a new interview, just on 5 minutes ago. It's sounds like he was pressured to smile for the cameras with Bush yesterday then today he told the reporter that he was going to keep screaming for resources even if "the CIA was going to come in here and wipe him out"
Strawberrybitch | 09.03.05 - 6:17 pm | #

the bush repulicans will survive as long as DINOs like mary land poo keep sucking up.
splashmonkey | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:19 pm | #

every response from these douchebags is like a little kid being caught with freshly stolen candy.

wasn't me. we didnt know it wasn't free. candy, what candy...look a kitty cat.

the destruction of american continues.
GORT | 09.03.05 - 6:25 pm | #

Is BushCo, through Chertoff, trying to separate the two events to protect the insurance companies? They don't cover flood damage, so this distinction saves them from having to reimburse for MOST of the damages. In the same vein, the less people they bring out alive, the fewer reimbursements from insurers. It's disgusting but for them it's all about money.
maryshope | 09.03.05 - 6:27 pm | #

As Paul Krugman said in his excellent op-ed piece recently: "Before 9/11 the Federal Emergency Management Agency listed the three most likely catastrophic disasters facing America: a terrorist attack on New York, a major earthquake in San Francisco and a hurricane strike on New Orleans."

Well this country has suffered through 9/11 now and the White House appears to have been at least complicit in that attack on our country. We have suffered the natural catastrophe of the New Orleans event now, and the Bush administration sat back and watched the place descend into chaos and call the desperate people trying to fend for their lives "looters" if they sought the food and water that no rescuers were there to provide. If there is to be an earthquake in the near future to strike San Francisco while Bush is still in office, expect similar criminal negligence and theo-fascists like Falwell and Robertson to claim it is God's punishment to liberal, licentious, and gay SF and Californians.
ewastud | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 6:29 pm | #

The reason why a hurricane directly hitting New Orleans has been considered a potential nightmare for decades is precisely because of the risk of the levees being breached and the Lake flooding the city.

How stupid does this administration think we are?

G.
Anonymous | 09.03.05 - 6:32 pm | #

John,

I was in Hattiesburg Mississippi last Saturday and I was watching the Weather Channel. They had a story on there by a scientist who said the Levees would not hold, and that the pumps would nit work. I was watchingthis story around 5-5:30 pm on Saturday. So no one can say they did not fucking know. ALso for those that are interested there is a few people in New Orleans blogging their experiences as we speak. the address is www.mgno.com
Heather Sheridan | 09.03.05 - 6:34 pm | #

Did Everyone but me know that Carl Strock, Head of Army Corps of Engineers who's lying for Bu$h in NO - nah, no relationship between drowning of NO & cutting of funds for levee maintenance, etc., etc - is the same guy who fired the Top Pentagon Official in Contract Oversight, Bunnatine Greenhouse, for challenging the no bid contracts given to Halliburton.

I didn't know...but now I do. Thanks.
TR | 09.03.05 - 6:37 pm | #

even in the Netherlands we forsaw the "dikes" breaking, its a shame this usa government is trying to turn all their made mistakes, hide them as if they did nothing wrong.
Well sorry..the whole world has witnessed this from the start.
This site realy opens my eyes more and more.

good health to all those surviving the huricane and hope all will have the possibility to start a new life without problems.
myrre | 09.03.05 - 7:02 pm | #

When Bush spoke to the press on Friday morning, he justified the delay in response by saying the levee didn't break until Tuesday. Another intentional lie.
MHz | 09.03.05 - 7:12 pm | #

Another thing to consider is that the hurricane season has until Nov. 30th to run out. Given the predictions from the weather scientists, we could very well get hit with one or more category 4 or 5's all along the east coast as well as the gulf again. I wonder how this current government would handle a second American city being leveled?
Warren, Ft. Lauderdale | 09.03.05 - 7:46 pm | #

Where's our Dick?
Anon, Florida | 09.03.05 - 7:59 pm | #

A good analysis of why the Monday levee break was ignored, and what it means.
iamcoyote | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 8:12 pm | #

I have a request for John Aravosis, Chris in Paris, Michael in New York, Rob in Baltimore, Joe in D. C., and some of the shrill "experts" posting comments these last few days: PLEASE BUT ON YOUR SITE PHOTOS OF YOUR DEGREES IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT/DISASTER RELIEF. Also your resumes showing your experience in emergency management/disaster relief.

Also please post copies of your checks or credit card receipts showing how much each of you has contributed to the Red Cross or Salvation Army for relief efforts in the devastated states.

Your continuting sick effort to use Hurricane Katrina and the suffering of its victims for political purposes has not saved one life in New Orleans, fed one person in refugee shelters, helped one family clean up the debris of their Mississippi home, etc., etc., so I think each of you should post the estimated date and time of your arrival in Louisiana, Mississippi or Alabama to do volunteer work.

My guess is that you pricks will utterly fail each challenge!
Trace Phelps | 09.03.05 - 9:22 pm | #

OMG, hide your fags, it's a Phelps! Luckily, this one seems to be slow and stupid, with a disturbingly fascist bent. "Show us ze papers, old man," it demands, like a soldier at a checkpoint outside Berlin in 1944.
iamcoyote | Homepage | 09.03.05 - 9:40 pm | #

Chertoff? America First?

http://www.etherzone.com/forum/ i...pic,3280.0.html
big dan | 09.03.05 - 10:40 pm | #

I am so angry at this government. They didn't do anything until Thursday! What's going to happen next time? I keep wondering if I am starving and forced to sleep in the streets, would my government care???
Sarah | 09.04.05 - 12:46 am | #

Bush,Homeland Security,Fema, Military, should anticipate and be prepared for any and all catastrophe's, no matter how far fetched. To say they were not prepared because no one could be prepared for such a catastrophe is to say they were and will always be unprepared. This admition alone should be enough to bounce the whole lot out on grounds of incompetence and derelition of duty, not to mention high crimes and misdemeanors. Congress (after 06 when neo con repubs are voted out ) should take over the Executive Branch responsibilities and return this country to sanity. Our Pres. is not playing with a full deck.
DR. Bob M.D.P.C. | Homepage | 09.04.05 - 5:25 pm | #