I saw Bill Clinton speak in Salt Lake City and there were no metal detectors at all, and no one's bag was searched that I saw. There were of course Secret Service guys standing around the stage where he spoke. This isn't just an Obama thing.
lucidity | 02.22.08 - 3:59 pm | #

Nothing systematic here.
Dave of the Jungle | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 3:59 pm | #

very interesting, would like to know how this compares with repub events.
lucky | 02.22.08 - 4:00 pm | #

Psychologically this is not the kind of thing that will help Mr. Obama in his bid for the White House.
Bart | 02.22.08 - 4:00 pm | #

Wait, more important than Ichiro?!!!

Seriously, though, this is cause for concern. But despite all the talk of a conspiracy being afoot, I wonder if this isn't just sloppiness. What happens with other candidates' appearances.

As for people getting through, remember how that Code Pink person got into a Congressional hearing and got right in front of Rice with hands drenched in paint? It's stuff like that that makes me ask about the sloppiness.
tireiron chef | 02.22.08 - 4:00 pm | #

another one bites the dust!
--


Rep. Renzi indicted over Arizona land deal

Dennis Wagner
The Arizona Republic
Feb. 22, 2008 12:44 PM
After nearly two years of public controversy and speculation, U.S. Rep. Rick Renzi of Arizona faces indictment on 35 charges of extortion, wire fraud, conspiracy, embezzlement and other crimes.

The criminal counts, handed down Thursday by a federal grand jury in Tucson and unveiled today, stem from a tangle of fraud allegations involving the Republican congressman's business dealings, campaign finances and legislative conduct.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/ar...renzi22- ON.html
SINGING TROLL | 02.22.08 - 4:01 pm | #

If there is a real problem with his security, it goes deeper then just the SS. Are there enough detectors, people to crew them, off duty police, event staff, again who is in charge of Obama's security? The SS detail are just 20/30 people at the most, no way to control an event with 12,000.
mm | 02.22.08 - 4:04 pm | #

i'm unsure if this is tinfoil hat territory or not.

then again, we have a government not really capable of much - so why should security for our presidential candidates be any different.

heckuva job, secret service.
scooter in brooklyn | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:06 pm | #

HULK SMASH!!
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:06 pm | #

Wow! Are you people crazy or what? Can you people spell ....

P A R A N O I D !

Let me guess, this is a 'Right Wing Conspiracy'

LMAO ...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:07 pm | #

Tales of bobby kennedy
TomsOld | 02.22.08 - 4:07 pm | #

What kind of security are the Repuke candidates getting?

I bet the Secret Service is all over McCain and Huckabee. I bet they don't let you into one of their rallies with an unsearched backpack.

If Obama gets whacked before the election it will be an inside job.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:07 pm | #

If the Dallas Police find it important enough to speak to the press about it then I think we should too.

To ignore it wouldn't be prudent.
Plaigerer | 02.22.08 - 4:09 pm | #

Let me guess, this is a 'Right Wing Conspiracy'

LMAO ...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:07 pm | #


I think it is more likely that the local Obama people my not be up to the job.
mm | 02.22.08 - 4:09 pm | #

The Dallas police probably don't want another dead Preznit on their hands.

That was an inside job too.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:10 pm | #

Ya, there are all kinds of problems with the Secret Service, Presidents and Presidental candidates are getting shot all the time. Oh wait, the last time that happened was 27 years ago (Reagan), and the time before that was 45 years ago (Kennedy).

Yep, this is a huge problem.

lmao ...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:13 pm | #

This is a very serious situation. Candidates at this level should all have more than adequate protection.
Ben Dover | 02.22.08 - 4:13 pm | #

Maybe some of you concerned liberals should join the Secret Service and tell them how to do their job.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:13 pm | #

I once saw Cheap Trick play three consecutive nights at the croc in Seattle.


it was legendary.
COMMISSIONER GORDON | 02.22.08 - 4:13 pm | #

Steve, the violence against elected officials, of all types, is on the rise.

Most recently a deranged person opened fire in a council meeting. Several were killed and injured.

It only makes sense to provide adequate protection at all times.
Ben Dover | 02.22.08 - 4:14 pm | #

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK): I Think It Was Probably A Mistake Going To Iraq
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02...n-iraq-mistake/

Nigel Elliott | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:15 pm | #

Maybe some of you concerned liberals should join the Secret Service and tell them how to do their job.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:13 pm

Now that is funny. How is a liberal going to protect anyone. Libs are afraid of guns.
JED | 02.22.08 - 4:15 pm | #

JED, licensed conceal carry here. Pleased to meet you.
Ben Dover | 02.22.08 - 4:16 pm | #

I see we have another Repuke troll.

He's just as braindead as the rest.

Go fuck yourself, Steve E.

The E stands for Excrement.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:16 pm | #

this all very Brittany-esque to me. He's been catapulted into rock star status. America loves a good celebrity.
Ellie | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:16 pm | #

There was security last night at the Austin Music Hall event following the debate. A few very bored looking TSA screeners checked bags at the metal detector. It was pathetic.
Mike | 02.22.08 - 4:16 pm | #

I saw Bill Clinton speak in Salt Lake City and there were no metal detectors at all, and no one's bag was searched that I saw. There were of course Secret Service guys standing around the stage where he spoke. This isn't just an Obama thing.
lucidity | 02.22.08 - 3:59 pm | #

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Yeah, but there are two really big problems at work here.

1) The whole point of Secret Service is to secure the person they are protecting. If part of that persons job is to speak in front of large groups of people, they really need to have the resources in place to secure them, anything less then that is mission failure and as a people we should be concerned about all the money we are paying for nothing.

2) The 800lb gorilla in the room is that it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Obama in many ways presents a much higher target risk than I daresay even Bill Clinton. Besides the fact that he is the Democratic frontrunner right now, and all the baggage that holds, he is the first black candidate to have a viable chance of getting elected. In a country with the racial history we have that is not a trivial distinction, especially given our propensity to produce martyrs out of people who get too high up the civil rights food chain. Obama himself may not be a civil rights activist, but he sure is one powerful symbol.

Anyway, I don't subscribe to conspiracies, and even without that element the simple fact the SS is failing at its mission to secure the person they are protecting is more than enough to warrant a little noise making.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:17 pm | #

Libs are afraid of guns.
JED | 02.22.08 - 4:15 pm | #

No, I'm not. I'm afraid of idiots with guns.
Dave of the Jungle | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:17 pm | #

Steve, the violence against elected officials, of all types, is on the rise.
Most recently a deranged person opened fire in a council meeting. Several were killed and injured.
It only makes sense to provide adequate protection at all times.
Ben Dover | 02.22.08 - 4:14 pm

LMAO ... Like city council and a Presidental candidate are the same. Dude, get a clue. LOL...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:17 pm | #

Security for candidates should not be a partisan issue either.
Ben Dover | 02.22.08 - 4:17 pm | #

“I believe the reason people don’t have health care isn’t because no one’s forced them to buy it,” Mr. Obama said this month in Wisconsin. “It’s because no one’s made it affordable.” There is little agreement about what makes health insurance affordable. A survey last year by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that the average annual premium was $4,479 for an individual and $12,106 for a family.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/2...s/ 23health.html
hector | 02.22.08 - 4:18 pm | #

Security for candidates should not be a partisan issue either.
Ben Dover | 02.22.08 - 4:17 pm


Hillary is still alive ... right? End of story!
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:19 pm | #

Steve, that was an example of how easy it is and the extreme damage it can cause.

You do understand the concept of examples, don't you?
Ben Dover | 02.22.08 - 4:19 pm | #

Libs are afraid of guns.
JED | 02.22.08 - 4:15 pm | #


Say that into the barrel of my S&W



step into the street by sundown
step into your last goodbye
you're a notch and
i'm a legend
.
.
SINGING TROLL | 02.22.08 - 4:19 pm | #

Libs are afraid of guns. - JED

Yet another inbred REpuke troll.

I've been a liberal all my life and I have been around guns since Boy Scouts.

I once worked at a gun wholesaler and got to fire all their products.

I tell all my liberal friends to get guns.

We may need to protect ourselves from fascist fucks like JED, who eventually want to round us all up and make us into soap.

I support the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment.

Too bad you Repukes don't.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:19 pm | #

You libs won't have to worry about Obama after November. WHY? Because he will lose to McCain.

lmao...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:20 pm | #

Ok, my bad. Troll feeding isn't something I'm really into.

My apologies.
Ben Dover | 02.22.08 - 4:20 pm | #

You do understand the concept of examples, don't you?
Ben Dover

He's a Repuke. He can barely understand how to go to the bathroom by himself.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:21 pm | #

Now that is funny. How is a liberal going to protect anyone. Libs are afraid of guns.
JED | 02.22.08 - 4:15 pm | #

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I'm liberal, I'm very well trained with a firearm, and I used to do police work. Don't confuse having commen sense and giving a darn about people (liberals) with not having a willingness to "serve and protect", that would be a mistake. More than a few of my cop friends are very liberal.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:21 pm | #

You libs are funny. Now all of sudden you are NRA card carrying members.

LMAO ...

Let me guess, now you all of sudden like Christmas and attend church every Sunday.

LOL ...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:22 pm | #

More than a few of my cop friends are very liberal.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:21 pm | #

Those were probably the ones that piped- up in Dallas.
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 4:23 pm | #

Steve E. is a typical dumbass Repuke.

He thinks that since Repukes are all braindead robots like him, that the Dems must also be all alike.

Dumbass.

Democrats are all different. That's what makes us better than you Repukes.

We don't all spew talking points and march in unison.

Put two Dems in a room and you'll get three opinions. And I like it that way.

Stupid Repuke. Go back under your bridge, troll.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:24 pm | #

Let me guess, now you all of sudden like Christmas and attend church every Sunday.

LOL ...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:22 pm | #

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Well, not every Sunday, but I try. On the Christmas bit, who doesn't like Christmas?

Wow, you suck as a troll.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:24 pm | #

They manage to take care of the crowds at professional football games.
HereinDC | 02.22.08 - 4:24 pm | #

we demand better trolls.
scooter in brooklyn | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:24 pm | #

Let me guess, now you all of sudden like Christmas and attend church every Sunday.

LOL ...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:22 pm |



tell your soul suckin' preachers
to come down and see
part man, part monkey
baby that's me
.
.
SINGING TROLL | 02.22.08 - 4:24 pm | #

All of these so-called security lapses are driven by the Obama campaign and it's need to satisfy schedules. The campaign has clearly made the decision that security is a lower priority compared to packing the venues. Let's hope their gamble doesn't result in something horrible. I imagine all of the campaigns are doing the same thing.
Truth Stranger than fiction | 02.22.08 - 4:25 pm | #

The reason not to post this kind of story is not because a bunch of people attending Obama events may have already noticed lax security. The reason not to post this kind of story is because it creates and fans the flames of an Obama security frenzy in the media which draws attention to his vulnerabilities, distracts from his message, and possibly incites the unbalanced.
Ann | 02.22.08 - 4:26 pm | #

Decrease civil liberties for zionist paranoia.
Ameritard | 02.22.08 - 4:27 pm | #

Considering everything, is it such a good idea to focus so much attention on this sort of thing?
Truth Stranger than fiction | 02.22.08 - 4:27 pm | #

I'm 62 and I lost both JFK and his brother to a gun and I'll be dam if I'll set around and watch a third go by the way side in the same matter as the first two... the people of this country has got to take charge and start telling the politicians who in charge and it's not the politicians!

It's the people and if that requires blood to flow in the streets so be it!

I've had it with the republicans and there dam christian fascist enablers!
therepguy | 02.22.08 - 4:27 pm | #

therepguy | 02.22.08 - 4:27 pm | #

right on.
scooter in brooklyn | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:28 pm | #

step into the street by sundown
step into your last goodbye
you're a notch and
i'm a legend
SINGING TROLL | 02.22.08 - 4:19 pm | #


I wear lace and I wear black leather
My hands are lightning upon my gun
My shots are clean and my
My shots are final
My shots are deadly and when it's done

You're as stiff as my smoking barrel
You're as dead as a desert night
You're a target just by living
Twenty dollars will make you die

(Apologies SINGING TROLL.
I just thought some more of the song would be appropriate.:-)
Alice | 02.22.08 - 4:29 pm | #

All this talk about how much he reminds people of Bobby Kennedy makes me a little nervous. Don't make me say it.

And the last time I saw Bill Clinton in person it was at Foundry Methodist Church in DC. It was Sunday morning and the choir was doing a truncated version of Bach's St John Passion. (It was a fabulous performance, btw.) We all went through metal detectors.

I'm concerned if they are suspending these protections. It's been awhile since anyone has tried to assassinate a president or candidate and I have assumed that it was because the Secret Service had gotten very good at it's job. This is no time to slack off.
Houndentenor | 02.22.08 - 4:29 pm | #

Anyway, I don't subscribe to conspiracies, and even without that element the simple fact the SS is failing at its mission to secure the person they are protecting is more than enough to warrant a little noise making.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:17 pm | #

_____________

My point exactly. Some Clinton supporters also mentioned the same scenario's occuring at Clinton's public events. Just as Obama is the "Black" candidate, Hillary is also the "Female" candidate. Both have increased risk factors. This isn't an "OBAMA" issue specifically.

The issue here is SECURITY!!
ILiveinademocracy | 02.22.08 - 4:29 pm | #

Maybe some of you concerned liberals should join the Secret Service and tell them how to do their job.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:13 pm

Well, it's kind of obvious...someone else was telling them what to do.

Well, 500,000 people are on the no fly list, I'm one of them, guess I can't join.
HereinDC | 02.22.08 - 4:30 pm | #

therepguy - just letting you know, I'm one of your evil enemies.

Zionists (neocons and "progressives") vs. Patriots (people who respect their blood and heritage), in glorious war, hopefully in my time.
Ameritard | 02.22.08 - 4:31 pm | #

Like I said before, if you liberals are so concerned why don't you sign up and join the Secret Service. And when you get to the training academy tell them how to do their job and see how that will go over.

LMAO ...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:31 pm | #

The reason not to post this kind of story is not because a bunch of people attending Obama events may have already noticed lax security. The reason not to post this kind of story is because it creates and fans the flames of an Obama security frenzy in the media which draws attention to his vulnerabilities, distracts from his message, and possibly incites the unbalanced.
Ann | 02.22.08 - 4:26 pm | #



Piss off psychoANN.
We know if Hillary asked you to pull the trigger you would.
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 4:31 pm | #

All of these so-called security lapses are driven by the Obama campaign and it's need to satisfy schedules. The campaign has clearly made the decision that security is a lower priority compared to packing the venues. Let's hope their gamble doesn't result in something horrible. I imagine all of the campaigns are doing the same thing.
Truth Stranger than fiction | 02.22.08 - 4:25 pm | #

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The job of Secret Service is to protect Obama. If he tells them he will be at a sports arena, and they don't have enough personnel to screen everyone efficently, the problem is not his "schedule", it's the security detail. This doesn't sound like a case where he decided last minute to change his schedule and created a problem, stadium venue events take months of planning and I'm sure the SS were given plenty of lead time.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:31 pm | #

Steve E.

You may want to give facilities a call, I think your teleprompter's on the fritz.

.
EdNSted | 02.22.08 - 4:32 pm | #

In Seattle, everyone who had access to the stadium floor around the stage was subjected to a wand search, and police/security kept non-checked people in the stands from accessing the floor. Just sayin.'
Seattle SEIU | 02.22.08 - 4:33 pm | #

The reason not to post this kind of story is not because a bunch of people attending Obama events may have already noticed lax security. The reason not to post this kind of story is because it creates and fans the flames of an Obama security frenzy in the media which draws attention to his vulnerabilities, distracts from his message, and possibly incites the unbalanced.
Ann | 02.22.08 - 4:26 pm | #

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I said this earlier in a different way, but let me reiterate, your opinions represent to most callous and plain slimy views I have seen in a long time. Please take every opporuntity to piss off.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:33 pm | #

A good troll would not get so far off message...please troll tell us more about the glory of BUSH/CHANEY/MCLAME and best of all the great reasons for attacking Iraq even though we now know the Iraq people and Americans would be better off had we NOT attacked Iraq.
henry wallace | 02.22.08 - 4:33 pm | #

I think Obama is just playing the 'Race Card'. He must be talking to Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.

I know one thing for sure, If Obama keeps playing the race card, he will definatley lose to McCain.

Americans are sssssoooooooooooo tired of the race card.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:33 pm | #

FUCK THE CLINTONS. Their trolls were here last night/early morning peddling this meme:

Senator Clinton: Senator Obama is a TERRORIST!
The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group mentioned in the Obama stories.
"Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20.../700/681/ 462064

Obama has to be a terrorist because Israel ranks him so!
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/ pag...osnerPage.jhtml

Nigel Elliott | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:34 pm | #

dont forget about poland.

i mean Rick Renzi.


ha.
scooter in brooklyn | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:34 pm | #

I think Obama is just playing the 'Race Card'. He must be talking to Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.

I know one thing for sure, If Obama keeps playing the race card, he will definatley lose to McCain.

Americans are sssssoooooooooooo tired of the race card.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:33 pm | #

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So much so that more and more are supporting Obama every day, gotcha.

"Henry Wallace", apparently "Steve E" our troll is back on message now...
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:35 pm | #

The reason not to post this kind of story is not because a bunch of people attending Obama events may have already noticed lax security. The reason not to post this kind of story is because it creates and fans the flames of an Obama security frenzy in the media which draws attention to his vulnerabilities, distracts from his message, and possibly incites the unbalanced.
Ann | 02.22.08 - 4:26 pm


Geeze....let's just shut down the internets tubes and go back to the 1950's.
AND PRETEND WE ARE ALL THE BEAVER CLEAVER FAMILY.

Geeze, Don't post anything John....then it'll never happen.

.
HereinDC | 02.22.08 - 4:35 pm | #

Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:33 pm

Can you use "race card" in a sentence? You are wearing out your talking points quickly.
bumpkis | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:37 pm | #

Nigel Elliott | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:34 pm | #



Thanks Nigel.
I thought, for the briefest of moments, that she may have been conceding last night.

It is good to know my initial impressions are correct.
She and hers are all alike.

Have you met Ann?
BillDC | 02.22.08 - 4:38 pm | #

Ann reminds me of those 3 monkies:
Hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil.
HereinDC | 02.22.08 - 4:39 pm | #

Can you use "race card" in a sentence? You are wearing out your talking points quickly.
bumpkis | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:37 pm | #



Bookie: Are you gonna bet or not?


Gambler: Yeah yeah. Just let me take one more glance at my race card...
Ok. Gimmie Hilla The Hun to show in the 4th.
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 4:40 pm | #

to paraphrase Steve E. "Americans are sssssoooooooooooo tired of" racists.
Indigo | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:41 pm | #

Hey Steve E. - In the words of your hero Dick Cheney, "Go fuck yourself." Thank you.
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 4:41 pm | #

Remember this. MLK was a Republican and it was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery. It was the Democrats that started the Ku Klux Klan.
http:// www.nationalblackrepublic...tp_preview=true

Maybe you liberals should go back and take a history lesson.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:42 pm | #

to paraphrase Steve E. "Americans are sssssoooooooooooo tired of" racists.
Indigo | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:41 pm | #

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and dentists, and economists, and psychologists, and ...
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:43 pm | #

I heard this on Air America radio last night. It was said that the local police were told to STOP checking for weapons by FEDERAL AGENTS!

I would like to know who and FROM WHAT Federal Agency told the local authorities what to do in their own jurisdiction!

If a Federal Agent told me to stop doing something that I knew was protective of the community - remember, if some person wanted to hurt or kill Obama they could easily kill and hurt others as well - I would either ignore the Federal Agent or ask specifically "WHY?"
tardigrade | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:43 pm | #

And to think I felt y'alls pain.

Ungrateful pricks.
Bill Clinton (R-ascallyNeocon) | 02.22.08 - 4:43 pm | #

I thought, for the briefest of moments, that she may have been conceding last night.

It is good to know my initial impressions are correct.

___________

Don't be fooled..
ILiveinademocracy | 02.22.08 - 4:43 pm | #

You liberals have been so brain-washed you believe what every someone tells you to believe.

Try thinking for yourselves, for a change.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:44 pm | #

Gee, when I fly, the TSA does not care at all if I am going to miss my plane. sometimes they make the line go slower when I am in a hurry to make a connection.

I dont see anyone getting a 'pass', for any reason at the airport.

They need to either, up their technology by having more metal detectors (they now have them in my county courthouse)

Up the manpower so they can screen people more rapidly.

Or change the scheduling so they can screen everyone. No exceptions for bags-have a bag room for people to leave their checked book bags,etc.
shano | 02.22.08 - 4:45 pm | #

silly GOPer. no minds have changed here.
tlsintx | 02.22.08 - 4:45 pm | #

McLame needs to be under oath NOW!
henry wallace | 02.22.08 - 4:45 pm | #

You liberals have been so brain-washed you believe what every someone tells you to believe.

Try thinking for yourselves, for a change.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:44 pm | #

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That's not true. We certainly don't believe the bull you're trying to shovel.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:45 pm | #

Omen?
Police Officer Escorting Clinton Dies
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/...article/ 7330481

Nigel Elliott | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:46 pm | #

It should come as no surprise that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. In that era, almost all black Americans were Republicans. Why? From its founding in 1854 as the anti-slavery party until today, the Republican Party has championed freedom and civil rights for blacks. And as one pundit so succinctly stated, the Democrat Party is as it always has been, the party of the four S's: Slavery, Secession, Segregation and now Socialism.

It was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and passed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the passage of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860's, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950's and 1960's.

During the civil rights era of the 1960's, Dr. King was fighting the Democrats who stood in the school house doors, turned skin-burning fire hoses on blacks and let loose vicious dogs. It was Republican President Dwight Eisenhower who pushed to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1957 and sent troops to Arkansas to desegregate schools. President Eisenhower also appointed Chief Justice Earl Warren to the U.S. Supreme Court which resulted in the 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education decision ending school segregation. Much is made of Democrat President Harry Truman's issuing an Executive Order in 1948 to desegregate the military. Not mentioned is the fact that it was President Eisenhower who actually took action to effectively end segregation in the military.

http:// www.nationalblackrepublic...tp_preview=true
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:46 pm | #

You liberals have been so brain-washed you believe what every someone tells you to believe.

Try thinking for yourselves, for a change.
Steve E.

God, what a fucking idiot. He has it entirely backwards.

It is you Repukes who believe everything you are told by a fat psychotic junkie.

You Repukes continue to believe Saddam caused 9-11, even after Chimpy himself said that wasn't so.

Democrats do not all think alike like you stupid Repukes. And we don't believe everything we hear, especially when it comes from FOX News.

Stupid Repuke. Go fuck yourself.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:46 pm | #

Democrat President John F. Kennedy is lauded as a proponent of civil rights. However, Kennedy voted against the 1957 Civil rights Act while he was a senator, as did Democrat Senator Al Gore, Sr. And after he became president, John F. Kennedy was opposed to the 1963 March on Washington by Dr. King that was organized by A. Phillip Randolph who was a black Republican. President Kennedy, through his brother Attorney General Robert Kennedy, had Dr. King wiretapped and investigated by the FBI on suspicion of being a Communist in order to undermine Dr. King.

In March of 1968, while referring to Dr. King's leaving Memphis, Tennessee after riots broke out where a teenager was killed, Democrat Senator Robert Byrd, a former member of the Ku Klux Klan, called Dr. King a "trouble-maker" who starts trouble, but runs like a coward after trouble is ignited. A few weeks later, Dr. King returned to Memphis and was assassinated on April 4, 1968.

Given the circumstances of that era, it is understandable why Dr. King was a Republican. It was the Republicans who fought to free blacks from slavery and amended the Constitution to grant blacks freedom (13th Amendment), citizenship (14th Amendment) and the right to vote (15th Amendment). Republicans passed the civil rights laws of the 1860's, including the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the Reconstruction Act of 1867 that was designed to establish a new government system in the Democrat-controlled South, one that was fair to blacks. Republicans also started the NAACP and affirmative action with Republican President Richard Nixon‘s 1969 Philadelphia Plan (crafted by black Republican Art Fletcher) that set the nation‘s first goals and timetables. Although affirmative action now has been turned by the Democrats into an unfair quota system, affirmative action was begun by Nixon to counter the harm caused to blacks when Democrat President Woodrow Wilson in 1912 kicked all of the blacks out of federal government jobs.

Few black Americans know that it was Republicans who founded the Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Unknown also is the fact that Republican Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois was key to the passage of civil rights legislation in 1957, 1960, 1964 and 1965. Not mentioned in recent media stories about extension of the 1965 Voting Rights Act is the fact that Dirksen wrote the language for the bill. Dirksen also crafted the language for the Civil Rights Act of 1968 which prohibited discrimination in housing. President Lyndon Johnson could not have achieved passage of civil rights legislation without the support of Republicans.

Critics of Republican Senator Barry Goldwater who ran for president against Democrat President Lyndon Johnson in 1964, ignore the fact that Goldwater wanted to force the Democrats in the South to stop passing discriminatory laws and thus end the need to continuously enact federal civil rights legislation.

Those who wrongly criticize Goldwater, also ignore the fact that President Johnson, in his 4,500 State of the Union Address delivered on January 4, 1965, mentioned scores of topics for federal action, but only thirty five words were devoted to civil rights. He did not mention one word about voting rights. Then in 1967, showing his anger with Dr. King's protest against the Viet Nam War, President Johnson referred to Dr. King as "that Nigger preacher."

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Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:47 pm | #

I didn't want to forget to mention, Obama's Social Security adviser supports privatization.

*I wonder how long this post will stay up before it's "purged" by the powers that be?
Truth Stranger than fiction | 02.22.08 - 4:47 pm | #

That's not true. We certainly don't believe the bull you're trying to shovel.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 4:45 pm | #




we're not gonna take it
no, we're not gonna take it
we're not gonna take it
anymore
SINGING TROLL | 02.22.08 - 4:47 pm | #

Contrary to the false assertions by Democrats, the racist "Dixiecrats" did not all migrate to the Republican Party. "Dixiecrats" declared that they would rather vote for a "yellow dog" than vote for a Republican because the Republican Party was known as the party for blacks. Today, some of those "Dixiecrats" continue their political careers as Democrats, including Democrat Senator Robert Byrd who is well known for having been a "Keagle" in the Ku Klux Klan.

Another former "Dixiecrat" is Democrat Senator Ernest Hollings who put up the Confederate flag over the state capitol when he was the governor of South Carolina. There was no public outcry when Democrat Senator Christopher Dodd praised Senator Byrd as someone who would have been "a great senator for any moment," including the Civil War. Democrats denounced Senator Trent Lott for his remarks about Senator Strom Thurmond. Senator Thurmond was never in the Ku Klux Klan and defended blacks against lynching and the discriminatory poll taxes imposed on blacks by Democrats. If Senator Byrd and Senator Thurmond were alive during the Civil War, and Byrd had his way, Thurmond would have been lynched.

The thirty-year odyssey of the South switching to the Republican Party began in the 1970's with President Richard Nixon's "Southern Strategy" which was an effort on the Part of Nixon to get Christians in the South to stop voting for Democrats who did not share their values and were still discriminating against their fellow Christians who happened to be black. Georgia did not switch until 2002, and some Southern states, including Louisiana, are still controlled by Democrats.

Today, Democrats, in pursuit of their socialist agenda, are fighting to keep blacks poor, angry and voting for Democrats. Examples of how egregiously Democrats act to keep blacks in poverty are numerous.

After wrongly convincing black Americans that a minimum wage increase was a good thing, the Democrats on August 3rd kept their promise and killed the minimum wage bill passed by House Republicans on July 29th. The blockage of the minimum wage bill was the second time in as many years that Democrats stuck a legislative finger in the eye of black Americans. Senate Democrats on April 1, 2004 blocked passage of a bill to renew the 1996 welfare reform law that was pushed by Republicans and vetoed twice by President Bill Clinton before he finally signed it. Since the welfare reform law expired in September 2002, Congress had passed six extensions, and the latest expired on June 30, 2004. Opposed by the Democrats are school choice opportunity scholarships that would help black children get out of failing schools and Social Security reform, even though blacks on average lose $10,000 in the current system because of a shorter life expectancy than whites (72.2 years for blacks vs. 77.5 years for whites).

Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30-40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. Over $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since President Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.

In order to break the Democrats' stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party's economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.

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Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:48 pm | #

I am impressed that Steve can cut and paste.
I completely underestimated him.
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 4:49 pm | #

What a load of bullshit from the Oreo Cookie website.

This Repuke troll is dumber than most.

I hope John A. deletes all his shit.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:49 pm | #

C'mon liberals ... try reading a little history and thinking for yourselves. I know it will be hard, but try.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:49 pm | #

Hey Steve E. - Who do you get your marching orders from - Limbaugh, Hannity, or O'Reilly? I mean, you are one enlightened moron.

Just remember, on election day, my vote cancels yours. AHAHAHAHAHA....
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 4:49 pm | #

mcstain will probably get as many states as goldwater did.
scooter in brooklyn | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:50 pm | #

Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:47 pm | #

I thought we were soooooo tired of playing the "race card".....you seem to be stuck on it buddy.
bumpkis | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:50 pm | #

C'mon ... read ... just try it. Open your mind and think. Think all by yourself.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:50 pm | #

Steve, funny how things change through history.

Republicans are now the party of David Duke, the moral majority, and the white racist homophobic Christian Focus on the Family.

We are talking about this election, no? I dont see the Republicans supporting their candidate with anything like the money Democrats are supporting Obama.

Must be that stingy "I get to keep my money because there is no public good" attitude that is causing McCain campaign to go on the government dole.

Campaign welfare for the Republican candidate, versus Democratic voters pulling money out of their pocket to support their nominee this election.
shano | 02.22.08 - 4:51 pm | #

Wow, that is not right at all. Maybe because it's still the primaries? I was at a John Kerry rally in May 2004 at Ohio State and I went through security three times and they made me take me throw away my mace.
takeasiesta | 02.22.08 - 4:51 pm | #

What a load of bullshit from the Oreo Cookie website.
This Repuke troll is dumber than most.
I hope John A. deletes all his shit.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:49 pm


Yes, another liberal who can't think for himself and wants to censor so others can't think either. What are you afraid of?
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:52 pm | #

Me gonna reed Ann Coulters new buk... she are sexy and shit!
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 4:52 pm | #

I am impressed that Steve can cut and paste.
I completely underestimated him.
Anonymous

Unfortunately, he keeps EATING the paste.

And this Black Repuke website he's pasting from is a bullshit site that has been completely debunked. They are ultra reich wingnut whackos.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:53 pm | #

And Steve, if any of the current Republicans were like Goldwater, they would have a chance to win.

Reps have been taken over by the neocons.
shano | 02.22.08 - 4:53 pm | #

We need to increase security at Obama events to keep braindead whackos like Steve E. from getting in and shooting up the place.

I wouldn't put it past him. He's obviously mentally unstable and intellectually challenged.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:54 pm | #

Tell us more about McLame and Bush and Chaney and Larry Craig and Rick Renzi...hmmmm you do love your Republican heros and you aren't brainwashed.. right troll?
henry wallace | 02.22.08 - 4:54 pm | #

HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:53 pm |

His parents should be home soon, they'll make him get off the computer and go play somewhere else.
bumpkis | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:54 pm | #

the closest you can get to bush these days is google earth. that's because everybody loves him so much.
type 4 | 02.22.08 - 4:55 pm | #

McCain=Republican candidate on welfare

Obama=record number of individual money donations.

seems like the philosophical position is turned around by facts.
shano | 02.22.08 - 4:56 pm | #

If I were Obama I would have myself, my wife and kids all wear bullet proof vests all the time. People are crazy. I mean Obama girl was scary enough for me.
takeasiesta | 02.22.08 - 4:57 pm | #

Nigel Elliott | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:15 pm | #

I'm guessing that Coburn is up for re-election.
mirth | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:57 pm | #

Don't chase this troll away...this one is too easy and fun to kick.
henry wallace | 02.22.08 - 4:57 pm | #

Obama's economic advisers are a little creepy. Here's some great information some of you could use:

First Link
Second Link
Third Link

The information is a little complex, but enjoy before the post gets scrubbed from this site.
Truth Stranger than fiction | 02.22.08 - 4:57 pm | #

Steve, funny how things change through history.
Republicans are now the party of David Duke, the moral majority, and the white racist homophobic Christian Focus on the Family.
shano | 02.22.08 - 4:51 pm


Yo, dumbass, David Duke is blackballed by Conservatives. But Democratic Senator Robert 'KKK' Byrd is praised by you dumbasses.

Also, Byrd is Senator and still in office. Duke was just a state Represenative and he hasn't been in office for 16 years.

Wow! Are you stupid or what?

LMAO ...
LOL...

David Duke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke
Robert Byrd
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:57 pm | #

the closest you can get to bush these days is google earth. that's because everybody loves him so much.
type 4 | 02.22.08 - 4:55 pm | #

----------------

I know exactly where to find him. Not at the white house.

If I really wanted to I'd seek out the ranch or Camp David.
takeasiesta | 02.22.08 - 4:58 pm | #

Another history lesson for stupid liberals.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:58 pm | #

A Georgia woman who married her son's 15-year-old friend and later bore the friend's child was released from prison Friday.

Another Repuke marriage made in heaven!
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 4:58 pm | #

Steve, Duke was loved by the white racists in the south, the Confederate Flag loving gop supporters.

Even McCain made a strategic mistake with this group of Conservative nutzoids.
shano | 02.22.08 - 5:00 pm | #

Hey Steve: did you know that L. Ron Reagan, cult leader, was second only to Dubya as the worst, most foul president this country has ever seen? Do you worship L. Ron Reagan? I'll bet you do.....
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 5:00 pm | #

I think Obama is just playing the 'Race Card'. He must be talking to Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.

I know one thing for sure, If Obama keeps playing the race card, he will definatley lose to McCain.

Americans are sssssoooooooooooo tired of the race card.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:33 pm | #

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Obama does not play the race card. It's the media pigeon-holing Obama as a black dude and Hillary as a woman instead of looking at the issues and what they stand for.
takeasiesta | 02.22.08 - 5:00 pm | #

Stupid liberal brings up David Duke who was just a state rep, not even on the federal level. And David Duke hasn't been in office for 16 years.

But, stupid liberal is somehow blind to (D)-Senator Robert Byrd who is still in office.

PS - Did you stupid liberals even attend school? WOW! Talk about stuck on stupid!

LMAO ...
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 5:01 pm | #

Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 4:33 pm | #

Nah. We're just tired of racists.
mirth | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:02 pm | #

Now does everyone know exactly how much Obama sacrifices by putting his life and limb out there for ALL of us. He wishes to carry our progressive message to the WH and is risking everything for us. Obama is taking the torch from previous progressives and he needs our support.
henry wallace | 02.22.08 - 5:02 pm | #

No wonder liberals blogs are not even taken seriously by the mainsteam liberal media. At least they are educated and they know stupid when they see it.
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 5:03 pm | #

Be careful Steve ,when you get nigil and the rest of the Obama nuts upset they will go after you,non stop
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:03 pm | #

Steve E. is a real dumbass.

He thinks the Repukes care about black people. They don't.

Repuke Kenny Blackwell disenfranchised 300,000 of his fellow blacks in Ohio before the 2004 election.

Blacks do NOT vote Repuke. They know that Repukes are racists and do not care about blacks.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:03 pm | #

A little touchy about Duke are you?
Duke never renounced his racist ideology.

Byrd has renounced his past, over and over, he is an old man. But he redeemed himself in the recent past with his condemnation of the Iraq war.

.
shano | 02.22.08 - 5:04 pm | #

I saw him in Springfield, IL at the beginning of his campaign. You could get very close to him if you had a pass to get on the Capitol lawn. Those with passes were not subjected to any further security measures. There were many Secret Service officers on the lawn, on the streets surrounding the Capitol and on roof tops though.
John-Michael | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:04 pm | #

Liberals are educated and we know stupid when we see it.

And Steve E. is stupid. A real dumbass.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:04 pm | #

Hey Steve E. - I'm a liberal and I don't give a fuck about what you think. Really. Carry on.
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 5:04 pm | #

Be careful Steve ,when you get nigil and the rest of the Obama nuts upset they will go after you,non stop
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:03 pm | #

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Ric is now aligning himself with the racist GOP troll Steve E? I guess that speaks volumes.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 5:04 pm | #

Very odd.

I went to a Hillary event in St Louis in early February. There was a LONG line, it was cold, and everyone was checked - metal detector, bag search and a quick wanding...
anon | 02.22.08 - 5:05 pm | #

I was at a Hilary rally recently, where Bill Clinton was speaking, and there was no security there, either. NOTHING. I sat in the front row, and if I had been a looney, there would have been no stopping me. Apparently we don't care if past or future presidents get shot. Does anyone think George Bush would every in his life be without security?
Barbara | 02.22.08 - 5:05 pm | #

Wow!

MSNBC aired a video posted on YouTube of massive looting in Belgrade, Serbia--the same area of the city where the US embassy was attacked yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h? v=E66gb9pSQi0 O.O

Nigel Elliott | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:05 pm | #

Oh I love stiring up the hornnets(obama) nest
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:05 pm | #

I bet EVERYBODY gets searched at all the McCain and Huckabee events.

The Secret Service and most police forces have been politicized and they are little more than private police for the Repukes.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:06 pm | #

Ric, if you are a Democrat and want to beat McCain, this is your nest, too.

just sayin'
shano | 02.22.08 - 5:07 pm | #

Ric likes Steve the Repuke troll.

Ric is not a Democrat.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:08 pm | #

Ris is a democeat and he is still for Hillary, to the end. sorry guys but that will never change....
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:09 pm | #

Ric, stop kissing the REpuke troll's butt, you moron.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:10 pm | #

And here's one for the trolls:

Lincoln was a Republican but he would have nothing in common with the party it's become today.
chandler in lasvegas | 02.22.08 - 5:10 pm | #

Ric is a typical Clintonista.

He loves Repuke trolls.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:11 pm | #

yes,Hulk, Im a clitonista, to the end,what don't you all get about it.....
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:13 pm | #

1)In 1963 Secret Service regulations governing escort security for presidential motorcades provided that buildings along the motorcade route had to be inspected whenever the motorcade route was a standard one that had been used in the past. President Kennedy's Dallas motorcade route had been the standard route for motorcades for years; President Franklin D. Roosevelt, for example, had visited Dallas in 1936 and traversed the same route in a motorcade (although in the opposite direction). Nevertheless, on Nov. 22, 1963, when President Kennedy visited Dallas, the Secret Service's own guidelines were violated, and no inspection of the buildings along the motorcade route was made. Source: U. S. House of Representatives, House Select Committee on Assassinations, Investigation of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, vol. 11, pp. 525-27 (1979).

9 more examples of "Security Lapses" concerning the JFK Assassination at the above click.

And in case anybody missed it last night - Video proof that President Kennedy's Back was left unguarded by the Secret

I wonder if they will use a "Islamic Terrorist" instead of the "Lone Crazed Gunmen" on Obama? I bet it has probably already been "Pretty well confirmed".

Peace.
Human | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:14 pm | #

Steve, you left out a great example of GOP moral rectitude, your very own Storm Thurmond.

Racist legislator, who happens to have an out-of-wedlock baby with a black woman.

Now theres a FINE example. Like Clinton, you have to be carefull when you open up subjects for discussion.
shano | 02.22.08 - 5:14 pm | #

The key is to compare this with REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE EVENTS.

If security procedures are different (i.e. more stringent) for repugs than for Dems, then we can conclude that the Powers-That-Be want a Dem to be assassinated, but not any repugs.

We need a comparison, pronto.
nikto | 02.22.08 - 5:14 pm | #

sorry, its STROM Thurmond, in case you want to wiki it Steve.
shano | 02.22.08 - 5:15 pm | #

Wow! Are you people crazy or what? Can you people spell ....
P A R A N O I D !
Let me guess, this is a 'Right Wing Conspiracy'
LMAO ...
Steve E.

Let me guess...you haven't heard or didn't learn from Kennedy...Dallas...book depository. Or did that not really happen? Oh, yeah, I keep forgetting, there was a "magic bullet," involved, so it must have been a fairy story.

Those who do not learn from history...
cindiloohoo | 02.22.08 - 5:15 pm | #

The key is to compare this with REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE EVENTS.

If security procedures are different (i.e. more stringent) for repugs than for Dems, then we can conclude that the Powers-That-Be want a Dem to be assassinated, but not any repugs.

We need a comparison, pronto.
nikto | 02.22.08 - 5:14 pm | #

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Why, even if they are the same level apparently that just mean that everyones asses are in danger. Being tied for the worst is not a good thing.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 5:16 pm | #

And,one more thing, Hillary has class, and your Obama has class, why don't you Obama people have have some.
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:16 pm | #

Thanks for telling me, an Obama supporter, that I have no class. great point, Ric
shano | 02.22.08 - 5:17 pm | #

nikto | 02.22.08 - 5:14 pm | #
How does that let the Secret Service off from suspicion? The biggest threat is not from some crazed lone gunman. It's from the Racketeers.
Peace
Human | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:17 pm | #

And,one more thing, Hillary has class, and your Obama has class, why don't you Obama people have have some.
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:16 pm | #

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Ohh, stop, your hurting my feelings.

Who cares:

a) if we do or do not have class

and

b) what your opinion is on the subject.

How juvenile.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 5:18 pm | #

shano | 02.22.08 - 5:17 pm | #
It is the same Haughtiness that his Beloved shows.
Human | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:18 pm | #

Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:03 pm |

Hi Prick! Welcome back after you said repeatedly that you hated this blog and would never, ever visit again. Hypocrite? Nahhhhhh. :)

Nigel Elliott | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:19 pm | #

HEY,
STEVE E,

Are you personally planning to bring a gun to an Obama event and shoot him?

I wouldn't be surprised, you rightwing, scum-sucking, POS fake Christian.

Oh, and stop molesting little boys, you
weak-ass, snivelling little
GOP child abuser.
nikto | 02.22.08 - 5:20 pm | #

The JFK assassination was an inside job.

9-11 was an inside job.

And whatever excuse is used for martial law before 2009 will be an inside job too.

We don't live in a democracy.

We live in a criminal conspiracy.
HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:20 pm | #

I thought Clinton regained some dignity last night. (then I found out is was dignity obtained by using the words of Edwards and Bill) does she get points for using them at the right time?
shano | 02.22.08 - 5:20 pm | #

Thwaraith, No ,you are the juvenile with all the troll stuff....
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:20 pm | #

HULK | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:20 pm | #
You Are Correct Sir.
Human | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:20 pm | #

Nigil,wrong again, I never said I hated this blog and I would never would visit again, you PRICK, how bout that for class.....
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:25 pm | #

Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:25 pm |

Eurythmics - Thorn In My Side :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h?v=yhi4bNF- QB0

Nigel Elliott | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:27 pm | #

shano | 02.22.08 - 5:20 pm | #
Sure. But the Points are on redeemable for whole load of Frequent Flyer Miles via Iraqi Airlines straight to Baghdad. I'll get her Bon Voyage present. A mop and bucket so she can clean the Bloody Streets up.
Peace.
Human | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:27 pm | #

I thought Clinton regained some dignity last night. (then I found out is was dignity obtained by using the words of Edwards and Bill) does she get points for using them at the right time?
shano | 02.22.08 - 5:20 pm | #

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I don't think the Edwards/Bill lift was a big problem, but it was a little odd. Either she was being genuine and she inadvertently recited something she remembered them say or her people really should have done a "copying check" (a play on the Xerox thing) to make sure any statements she made couldn't be used like this.

Oh well, can we go back to the important stuff now?
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 5:28 pm | #

Nigil, and you point is?
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:29 pm | #

barak bhutto?
j | 02.22.08 - 5:29 pm | #

You liberals have forgotton one thing. D I E B O L D

See, you libs are getting all worked up over Obama and Hillary and it really doesn't matter.

WHY?

Because we, the GOP own Diebold. We have access to the black boxes of the eVoting machines. So we deciede who is President. And guess who that will be ... McCain.

Just remember one thing ...
D I E B O L D ! ! !
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 5:30 pm | #

And one more thing more thing to remember ...
S U P R E M E C O U R T

Yes, we also own the Supreme Court, so if you libs take anything to the SC, you will lose.

LMAO ...

How do you like them apples ??
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 5:32 pm | #

GOP- Proud to win by cheating!
Kerry | 02.22.08 - 5:33 pm | #

Yes, we will cheat. We will do anything to stop liberals.

We will do anything to see you liberals upset, angry and nothing gives me more pleasure than to see liberals suffer.

lmao ..
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 5:34 pm | #

---nothing gives me more pleasure than to see liberals suffer

doubtful
afafkd | 02.22.08 - 5:36 pm | #

i dont know that checking each person is an integral part of their security strategy. more likely, they are depending upon surveillance and profiling.

this is the idea that dare not speak its name. not that it hasnt occured to me, maybe in a way, it helps explain the generation gap in obama's support. these young people dont know what THEY are capable of.
isaac | 02.22.08 - 5:37 pm | #

I hate to say this, but steve has it right,we have a real problem,if we dont work togeather,where fucked, there watching.....
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:38 pm | #

The problem with those like Steve
E. is that they have a misunderstanding
of what FAMILY VALUES actually
means. It has nothing to do with inbreeding and all the complications
that are associated with his chosen
lifestyle.
Example: it would much safer if I had
relations with his Mother, or better
yet his Father. On the other hand it
is unwise and socially unacceptable
to procreate within ones own family
which is obviously the case having
read the numerous and for the most
part juvenile and dim witted posts.
Poncho in Paradise | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 5:39 pm | #

I hate to say this, but steve has it right,we have a real problem,if we dont work togeather,where fucked, there watching.....
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:38 pm | #

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What do you mean we kimosabe? You've displayed an utter disdain for most of us to the point with siding with the intellectually-challenged GOP knuckle-dragging troll-boy. With allies like you, I'm going to invest in kevlar back protection.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 5:46 pm | #

Yes, we will cheat. We will do anything to stop liberals.

We will do anything to see you liberals upset, angry and nothing gives me more pleasure than to see liberals suffer.

lmao ..
Steve E. | 02.22.08 - 5:34 pm | #

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The easiest way to deal with that cheating thing is to keep up the order of magnitude higher voter turnout we've been seeing for the Dems. Hard to fudge the numbers when your opponent has 10 times the votes.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 5:48 pm | #

tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 5:48 pm | #

Does the moniker "Grassy Knoll" ring a bell. About 2 or 3 threads down. I can't see them they have disappeared but this troll seems like the same one---same song different name.
aquarius2 | 02.22.08 - 5:51 pm | #

Hard to fudge the numbers when your opponent has 10 times the votes.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 5:48 pm |

Keeping fingers crossed that is the case this November!! Diebold be damned!
Kerry | 02.22.08 - 5:52 pm | #

Security is somewhat of a PR illusion anyway, so I don't think publishing this is helpful.
Dream On | 02.22.08 - 5:53 pm | #

Tlhwarath, I never said I agree with steve, I said we have a problem, we do. all the name calling ect. and Im to blame too, so lets work togeather,to win back the White house,is that a deal?
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:57 pm | #

Tlhwarath, I never said I agree with steve, I said we have a problem, we do. all the name calling ect. and Im to blame too, so lets work togeather,to win back the White house,is that a deal?
Ric | 02.22.08 - 5:57 pm | #

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Fair enough, we shall see.
tlhwraith | 02.22.08 - 6:04 pm | #

Tlhwraith, THANKS.
Ric | 02.22.08 - 6:05 pm | #

I have submitted the following comment to the Secret Service's public affairs web site at:

http://www.secretservice.gov/ con...tact_usss.shtml

As Ricky Ricardo would say, they have some 'splainin' to do.

Feel free to do something similar, and to pass this email on to others who are concerned about Obama's safety.

I have also set up the following blog:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/c...g/ KeepObamaSafe
KeepObamaSafe | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 6:16 pm | #

Not enough space, here is the comment mentioned above:


TO: U.S. Secret Service Public Affairs Office:

The Secret Service should issue a public statement explaining this decision or face the cynical skepticism of the American public regarding your commitment to protect Barack Obama:

Fort Worth Paper: Secret Service Ordered End to Gun Checks at Obama Rally

http:// www.editorandpublisher.co...t_id=1003714257
KeepObamaSafe | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 6:18 pm | #

When the 2002 Olymics came to town we had security checks all over town that had to be negotiated. Many of them passing over 20,000 people through. Granted this was just after 9/11 and people were a little more tolerant of delays, but it can be done, and done fairly well.
UTLiberal | 02.22.08 - 6:40 pm | #

Sent this letter today:

Mark Sullivan, Director
United States Secret Service
Dear Director Sullivan:
I read with alarm, and no small measure of disgust, that the Secret Service ordered the local (Dallas, of all places) police to cease screening for weapons at an Obama rally. After all the collusion with the Bush campaign (screening for political agreement with the candidate and allowing no free expression of differing views) this act appears to me to place the security of the first African American with a realistic chance of winning the presidency at risk.
Sir, you must be aware that the Republican Party has run on a “Southern Strategy” of racial polarization for several decades. Surely you are aware that Dallas has a date that should live in infamy with your organization. Surely you are aware that there are racist organizations that absolutely revile the thought that a “n*****” could become the President.
How in the name of all that is prudent, sensible and just can the Secret Service order the local police to stop screening and allow free entry to an event like this?
Sincerely,
HinTN | 02.22.08 - 7:02 pm | #

Yah, too many carriage returns to get the whole thing. Sent with cc: to Pelosi and my two Republican Senators. They ought to like that!
HinTN | 02.22.08 - 7:04 pm | #

Secret Service needs to keep an eye on crazy cunts like Taylor Marsh and Erica Jong. Their ravings have been mostly funny, but pretty creepy too. Those two demented broads believe the feminist and women's rights movements weren't meant to let women think for themselves but to let Taylor Marsh(the dumbest and ugliest blogger) and Jong think for all women.

Join cultists like Stephanie Miller, Scarlett Johansen, Oprah, Caroline Kenndy, Maria Shriver, Claire McKaskill, Janet Sebelius, et. al and Barack the vote!
Sarah | 02.22.08 - 7:17 pm | #

Good for Obama!

This country has gone "security" crazy.

I recognize that it's important to protect people, but my god, there's a line. It's ridiculous that you cant go anywhere today without being searched.

Thank God there is one candidate for president who understands freedom, liberty, and a right to privacy.

Maybe no one will want to harm him because he stands for restoring the freedoms for which we all long
MargaretWATB | 02.22.08 - 8:03 pm | #

Steve, funny how things change through history.
Republicans are now the party of David Duke, the moral majority, and the white racist homophobic Christian Focus on the Family.
shano | 02.22.08 - 4:51 pm

Sorry to stand up for neoSteve but that is an ignorant ascertion. The David Duke types have been against the excesses of the Zionist GOP for quite sometime and contributed the intellectual basis for the anti-war movement.
Ameritard | 02.22.08 - 8:12 pm | #

Does anyone think MCCain looks like Robbie the robot (Lost in Space -ooo-the irony) with those little arms twitchin' about?
Anonymous | 02.22.08 - 8:14 pm | #

A couple of years ago I went to a fundraiser here in NYC and Bill and Hillary Clinton were both there -- and their presence was announced on the invitation. It was at a small venue, but there was absolutely no security screening.
marco | 02.22.08 - 8:57 pm | #

Obama spoke at the General Synod of the United Church of Christ last summer and there were no metal detectors but EVERY bag was checked.

I guess the Secret Service felt that Obama was in more danger of being shot while speaking before members of his denomination than he would be at a general rally in Dallas.

Somebody needs to get to the bottom of this.
Zeke | 02.22.08 - 9:18 pm | #

I saw all the dems and some of the Repubs and never had to go through a metal detector. I get the concerns for Obama but also glad we haven't become a totally paranoid state. Count me among those who give credit to federal judges, candidates and others who don't succumb to fear.
Mike in Iowa | Homepage | 02.22.08 - 10:58 pm | #

if Obama was a white repub he'd get top notch security. This caste system is disgusting
jr | 02.22.08 - 11:18 pm | #

Steve,

The Democratic Party is the oldest political party in America. After FDR, the parties switched and the Dems became the liberal side. Since Zell Miller was elected as a Dem he has to claim that party, even though he spoke at the 2004 Republican National Convention.
takeasiesta | 02.23.08 - 12:31 am | #

I eat my own feces cause it tastes good and it's good for me!

LMAO...
Steve E. | 02.23.08 - 12:41 am | #

I just came back from Obama's rally in Austin in front of the state capitol. There were probably 30,000+ people out there on Congress Avenue.

To get into the close up section, we had to stand in line around the block and then go through airport type metal detectors (there were 6 or 8 of them). It was TSA employees who manned that part of the security. The vast majority were outside the barricaded area and weren't searched.

Obama was, needless to say, great.
pissedoffinaustin | 02.23.08 - 12:48 am | #

The only reason Hillary hasn't dropped out of the Presidential race,

is because Obama has no security.

Think about it.
Anonymous | 02.23.08 - 3:44 pm | #

I understand some of the concern but when my wife went to see Bill Clinton campaigning for Hillary there was no metal detectors. They did look inside of her purse but that was all. Of course the Secret Service was in full force.
Tommy Denison | 02.23.08 - 5:44 pm | #

I was a boy when RFK and ML King were murdered within two months of one another.

Paranoia? I don't think so.

This is a really important post. I think those of us who care about Obama should start making noise.

We need a leader, not a martyr.
al75 | 02.23.08 - 9:22 pm | #

Has anyone asked the Obama campaign whether they ordered the curtailment of security? It's possible that the campaign decided to forgo tight security in the interest of encouraging big crowds.

Although the Secret Service is tasked with protecting him he is their client at this point and has the right to accept or reject their help.

Just asking
Pat Tibbs | Homepage | 02.26.08 - 2:40 am | #