Works just fine is not a great answer.
After all these years, "Here's the new feature and fixes list for MSIE."
Your users don't know or care about subleties like this. Nor do Web developers. And working just fine is not what we're after, new stuff please.
And also -- NO SMART TAGS.
I'm waiting for the interface that tells me the answer to my google question not display it. I want to throw away the keyboard also. And if its not too much trouble I don't want to know it was from google. Oops, there goes the paid for by these advertisers model.
Well if Winer's pissed-off, you must be on the right trail. The browser (as an app) is as boring as the VCR. I want something collaborative, something transparent, something extendible.
I don't see anything like SmartTags. But, then, I just started digging.
Yeah, why do we need the web anyway. Lets just let Microsoft take care of things for us.
Well, I work at Microsoft and I need the Web. So, there.
So what's the right question? I have no inside information, but let's consider. If 'Is IE dead?' is the wrong question, that means the answer doesn't matter. The answers could be "yes" and "no". If "yes" doesn't matter, that means IE is no longer the way you surf the Internet. If "no" doesn't matter, it means all the functionality of IE is available elsewhere. These answers mean something is taking IE's place. Perhaps MS went ahead and built IE into Longhorn? But would that be different? There is already an ActiveX control with IE's functionality which can be plugged into any application. IE is already in the desktop (the under-used but reasonably cool "active desktop"). IE already has access to the .NET CLR. IE can already run ActiveX controls. One could imagine a little deeper integration - maybe a URL input line on the taskbar. Maybe the entire OS GUI is really just a browser window, with all OS "views" being web pages. Stay tuned.
The browser will be assimilated. All your application belong us.
Dave: I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to discuss new features in IE until the PDC in late October.
Also, newsflash, there still is an IE team! 
Something tells me the next version of the rendering engine (MSHTML) is going to be completely managed. Perhaps it's just wishful thinking, but that's the only reason I can come up with for it to take this long to see anything new on the browser front from MS. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
In the corporate world it's going to be at least three years before we see any significant adoption of the Longhorn client OS. We haven't even seen the killer app yet (from MSFT or anyone else) that will mandate the widespread takeup of .NET, and that's been around for quite a while now.
So -- and despite the fact that MSFT obviously has always to focus on the future while most of the rest of us work with what's already out there -- logic says there has to be at least some interim IE development to service the huge corporate installed base beyond just bug fixes and cosmetic tweaks.
Or is the assumption that IE6.0 (+ SP1 + patches) level componentry is 'good enough' and can be broadly left alone to plug the gap?
I think you're being very nice to us when you say it'll be at least three years before corporates use Longhorn in serious numbers. I think it'll be four or more. Look at how long it's taken for companies to start installing XP.
But, I've already learned to never say never. Our teams are always listening to customer feedback and I know that quite a few program managers and executives here read my weblog and the comments, so things can change at any moment.
Will there be an interim release? I don't know of any current plans, but I know that managers are always looking at customer feedback (and many read my weblog).
Translation: they don't listen to me anymore, but they are looking closely at what you say. Is there a new feature that you need before Longhorn?
I think Craig Saila covers it pretty well:
http://www.saila.com/columns/ran...ts/
030523.shtml
listing 5 key parts of CSS2 that would make it substatially easier to do more attractive & usable cross-browser design. (not having min-width and max-width is something that drives me crazy on a fairly regular basis.)
No, that doesn't answer the question - you didn't understand the question.
The question was not, "does IE still work in Longhorn?", the question was "Is IE Dead?" as in, is there still active development on it other than fixing the zillions of bugs & security holes? I've not seen any real 'innovation' (MS loves that word) in IE for a long, long time. Certainly nothing in the way of useful UI enhancements or speed improvements or standards compliance, or memory & diskspace footprints. All the innovation going on in the web browser space is happening with Mozilla and Safari, it seems to me. MS needs to know more about innovation than how to spell the word. It used to be that IE was the only app at MS that WAS innovative. Now it's relegated to the same status as every other MS product - boring.
But that's just my opinion.
Well, IE is now part of Longhorn and Longhorn is anything but boring.
What do you call innovation? Tabbed browsing? Popup ad blockers? A few CSS fixes? Is there anything you need in the browser that you don't currently have?
How about converting IE into a browser/editor, so we can read and write the web at the same time?? just a thought...
My desktop should have more awareness of information and context. I should be able to view information content consistently, no matter where it is. I should be able to translate data into information, no matter what format it's currently in. I'd like to be able to plug into the rendering of information, as well as the translation of data into information. I'd like the shell to help me manage the sources of information and data for me (again giving me a way to intercept translation and rendering), whether its a subscription, or browsing, or some sort of stimulus-based interaction. I'd like to have shell profiles, so that when I'm nomadic I can set realistic parameters for information retrieval. But what I'm really looking for is well-defined interception and extendability points for the shell. I want way, way, more than a browser.
I think the browser takes up enough memory as it is - no need to throw more crap in there! The browser should be a _browser_.
Yes, those things (tabs, Popup ad blockers? A few CSS fixes?) would be fantastic. Once you've used tabs, you rarely want to do without them. I'd like to see complete PNG support some time this decade. That'd be nice. And standards compliance would be really great. I doubt I'll ever see the latter out of MS, though, so I won't hold my breath, despite how fantastic I look in blue.
> Is there anything you need in the browser that you don't currently have?
In addition to the above, MNG support might be nice. Doubt I'll ever see it, though. I'd like per-site configuration of image autoloading, sound playing, pop-up blocking, etc. White & black lists for the pop-up blocking would be great.
I'd like to be able to launch whatever app I want when I click on ftp://, nntp:// (or is it news://?), and mailto: links, rather than just what MS products are installed.
I'd like to see an old feature revived (how how stupid is THAT - a feature IE once had, then was removed) - the ability to load each webpage open in its own IE process. That was really great, "back in the day". IE still crashes too often, and takes all open IE windows with it when it goes. If I have the memory, I should be able to do this (again). Whose idea was it to take away this option? It wasn't the default setting even then, but it was fantastic that it was available. Is the removal of features innovation?
Howzabout we fix bugs that have been in the codebase for a very long time, like the one where saving pictures out of webpages sometimes defaults to saving ONLY as a bitmap? It's in the knowledgebase that you have to clear your cache to make it stop, so I know MS knows about it. It's been in IE for a VERY long time.
How about the ability to JUST block pop-UNDER ads? You know when something pops under, it's an ad. Or just block on load of a website. Such fine-grained options would be great, rather than either-or options. The ability to toggle the autoloading of images via a button on the toolbar would be great. Or to empty the cache. Way too many uber-useful things are buried in menus so that noone can ever see them.
And maybe a real commitment to privacy would be nice - too many default IE options degrade privacy, and the vast majority of people never dig into the options menus. Wouldn't it be nice to one day see a PC Magazine article on tweaking the latest version of IE and seeing, "Sorry, default configuration is perfect, nothing to see here."?
How about the ability to increase or decrease text size no matter what CSS specification some idiotic webdesigner has specified? That's a pretty serious accessbility problem that's been around for a long time.
And maybe some intelligent handling of background images under text - determine if the text is hard to read on a specific background image, and have a setting to
Truncates at 3000 characters with no error after the fact?
Gimme a break.
You need to just two little things:
1. Conform to some decided level of the given standards fully:
Full PNG support.
Fix the broken CSS box model.
etc.
Once you catch up to a specific level (say HTML 4.01 + CSS2) that gives you a good platform for number two:
2. Innovate! Honestly, things we're much better when the standards groups were trying to keep up with the industry, not the other way round. In all the other industries I have worked in standards groups held more of a janitorial position rather than the innovational position that they hold in the software realm.
For example, back propogate the 'heading' and 'section' elements from XHTML 2.0 into an HTML 5.0. Or how about doing something between todays HTML forms and XForms, for example, just add the ability to not just submit the form data as "application/x-www-form-urlencoded" but also as "text/xml".
To be perfectly honest, Google has to be the most minimal website possible. Using it as a measuring stick for a web browser is ridiculous.
Scoble -- You ask questions about IE as if no one has ever said what we're waiting for in the browser.
What I'm waiting for is a decent text editor, cross-platform.
I've only said it a thousand times, in great detail each time, only to be blown off.
So tell me why I should sing for you this time. You're not the first MS guy to say "tell us what you want."
What a disgusting company. You guys take over the browser and then kill it.
Every time a MS person tells me it isn't the browser where it's happening I want to strangle them.
Winer, the browser should be a browser. Hence the name 'browser'. A text editor should be a text editor.
Has noone learned the lesson of Communicator?!
You know, there's a reason people are going nuts over the 'just a browser' browser projects...
Oh yeah, and something should be done about form fields going blank and sometimes not after a refresh.
Tabbed browsing and the ability to supress pop-ups. That's all I ask.
Getting all of CSS1 and CSS2 to
work would be great.
Getting rid of more bugs would be
great.
Deeper integration into the OS
would suck.
Yep, I'm just a practicing simpletonian.
Stan
CSS, PNG, and look at apps like SlimBrowser and Mozilla. Then take all the smart people at MS (as in Chris Sell's one month post) and figure out what we don't know. IE6 is well over a year old, isn't it?
IE needs to work correctly before more features are added. Adding features to the current version of IE is like adding horsepower to a car that can't make left turns.
The browser works too much like a human extension, in its current form.
It's like going to the library: you're able to take photocopies, you can keep your own notebook of "favorites", etc.
There should be more than that to the browser. The least it should do is allow you to define interesting keywords and mark them on the page (a la Google toolbar).
Indexed local cache is also something I'd like to see, with decent search capabilities.
A feature I see being interesting is something similar to Bayes networks for spam but in the other direction: identifying interesting pages. I don't see clearly how this would work, maybe by having the browser visit the links on the page in advance and propose the most interesting ones. Ok, that might have to wait a few versions of IE...
What we need in a browser is things that we haven't seen yet. Most of what's asked for here is pretty obvious - fix something, put in an editor (why not use ActiveX for that), add MNG, etc..
How about some completely different directions? MS Research must be working on stuff..
How can we use 3D in a web client? Not to do funky virtual worlds, but to make the 2D browsing experience better. My office is a 3D environment filled with 2D surfaces with stuff written on them that I can pick up and read, but also leave on the desk. I can still see them when they're on the desk. If the browser worked the same way - letting me take the page I'm on and put it on the desk and pick up another (because I can see that it's changed from how it looks on the desk).. you get the idea. I dunno if it would really work well or not, I think it would, but it's an example of something really new.
How about some really good bookmark management, that I can share with other instances of IE in other places where I work? Store my bookmarks with my Passport profile so anywhere I log in, I have them.
How about this. When I hover the mouse over a link, start fetching it in the background. That way my hovering can be taken as a sign that I'm going to go there next, and when I do click it, it will load faster (or be already loaded).
There's lots of basic stuff, like automatically resuming an HTTP download that gets disconnected, that would be nice.. but you probably already have requests for that sort of thing. I want to see something new.
- Steve
related: The Web Browser's Unfinished Basement http://www.newsfactor.com/perl/p.../printer/21504/
I want a browser that is secure. That runs inside of a sandbox. A browser where third party code also runs inside of a sandbox. I want a browser which is fast. I want a browser which can be integrated easily into my own code. I want the fantastic layout capabilities of CSS to allow me to integrate the layout engine of the browser into my own GUIs/applications - in short, Gecko and XUL. I want a browser that is also an editor - more than contentEditable gives us. I want a browser that implements many things, but all of those things should abide by the relevant standards. I want SVG, MathML, CSS. I want XHTML and proper PNG. I do not, under any circumstances want a 'blink' tag.
I think you'll find there's an huge network of users that desperately want a browser that isn't branded "Microsoft".
For my part standards compliance would go a long way to make me feel better about using IE.
I'd never leave my tabbed browsing behind, though. Not unless there was an even better method of handling multiple webpages.
In terms of innovation I'm thinking some sort of sidebar that dynamically tracks the links within the pages you view and displays it as a network or a tree... hard to describe but I have a clear image in my head. Something that could effectively "map" a website. That's what I'd call innovation.
Man just thinking about it makes me want it right now.
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