Gravatar I, on the other hand, as the husband of a convert get to watch first hand the pain and trauma people like Rabbi Sherman inflict. In the comments to the Ha'aretz article, one person gave the response that I think Rav Sherman will hear at 120:

In Olam Habah, gerim nullify you.


Gravatar Rav Elli:

Not sure I understand why you would require a t'vilah l'chumra if the woman's mother had converted through Rav Druckman. I assume it's simply to cover the bases in everyone's eyes and not because you think the conversion is invalid? If so, I think that sends the wrong message. Unless you think there is a real or even doubtful invalidity in the conversion, I think folks in our community need to stand up and take the power back from the Rav Shermans of the world.

L'fi aniyat da'ati, I think that we should respect batei din that convert even if we might have done things differently. Not to mention, she'll go to mikvah pre-wedding any way, and she thinks she's Jewish (and is the daughter of a gioret who was converted by an ortho rabbi), call that your t'vilah l'chumrah.


Gravatar i am equally baffled by your tevilah l'chumrah statement

i am choosing to believe you said it tongue in cheek (?)

tel


Gravatar not tongue in cheek. I have serious doubts about the validity of many of these conversions.


Gravatar I have serious doubts about the validity of many of these conversions.

Then at a maximum shouldn't you investigate the ones that are relevant to you (frex your case of a marriage) rather than assuming they are all invalid?

And what happens when you are approached by the daughter of a woman who was converted by Rabbi Druckman, and the daughter is engaged to a cohen?


Gravatar just so you can correct it: you have a typo on your second line of translation. You obviously meant pure but have "putre"


Gravatar Larry - I carefully crafted the scenario for that reason. If the mother is not religious, I would suspect that there was never an acceptance of the mitzvot.
in the case of a kohein, I'd probably me meikil.


Gravatar Technical chauvinist point: Rabbi Graubart was not an American rabbi. He was a Polish rabbi in my home town of Toronto. (If he also had a shteller at some point in America, I apologize.)


Gravatar St. Louis, in fact.


Gravatar "he believes that the Torah is fundamentally socialist"

as in classic bnei akiva/kibbutz hadati ideology?

regarding agriculture, some of the kibbutzim kept the field in operation even though business were the main money maker, for the sake of still being able to engage in agriculture


Gravatar Rabbi Graubart was also a Polish rabbi in Poland, the Stashover Rav. His older brother was a very prominent rabbi, the Bendiner Rov. His 5 volumes of responsa, Havalim BaNiemem are very fascinatin; he was conversant with European literature and languages (also Latin). He was in St. Louis for about a year; I think he may have switched positions with the communal rabbi, Hayim Fischel Epstein (Shu"t Teshuvo Shelaimo). It's not surprising that he discusses the HTC, as he sent his sons there. All of them became Conservative rabbis, and his daughter/s (?) also married Conservative rabbi(s).


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