You've hit a nerve here, so I thank you for ending with some suggestions. I've thought for a while now that Jews and Muslims should get together for Sunday sports, since it isn't the Sabbath for either.
My purpose in discussing problems is not to criticize, but to try to find solutions. And I stated the case quite strongly simply to clearly and forcefully identify a worst-case scenario.
My formal Jewish education (in two Reform synagogues in Los Angeles in the 1970s) was not quite that bad, but was close. Fortunately, my parents had a much more positive attitude toward Judaism, but I was still left with a very negative attitude towards Judaism until college.
I think there are some parents who are adamant about not getting involved in Judaism (for whatever reason) and will convey that Judaism-is-for-children message. The trick for synagogues is to foster a more positive approach for the other parents and not let the culture of the synagogue be dominated by this attitude.
excellent. well written. i would say that the 'give tzedakah' piece should be expanded since it is a 'natural' jumping off point into being jewish and your relationship to judaism and the world around you.
read more about this at (so you don't turn into a uncaring jew!) www.dannysiegel.com
and see how to give so you know you are doing the right thing at:
www.mitzvahheroesfund.org
thanks!
arnie draiman
www.draimanconsulting.com
The problem is, and I don't mean this derisively, reform and conservative Jews don't take Judaism seriously. They send their kids to Sunday school either because of the guilt of not giving them some sort of Jewish education, because they do feel strongly about their Jewish heritage (although not strong enough to let it affect their general lifestyle) and because mostly (I believe and hope) there's is the little spark of G-d in them trying to bring them closer to their true destiny.
Either way, it's like my wife trying to send my son (who is a great athlete and only wants to play ball at this stage of his life, bless his soul) to some arts and crafts class- which interests him as much as it would me (not!). Yes, he might make a nice picture or two, but in the end he will hate it more than appreciate it (like myself regarding piano lessons). Children are smart. And perceptive. They will follow your lead. If you're sincerely enthusiastic about something they will be. If you're just playing a game believe me they know it. This isnt just an issue with conservative and reform, it's the same in the modern orthodox and ultra orthodox world.
One thing I forgot to mention was, Bruce said "Whatever the problems are with Orthodoxy (and I think there are many), one problem that does not exist is conveying the message that Judaism is for children. Instead, Orthodox Judaism conveys the message that Judaism is important and serious adults take it seriously.".
Here's the underlying root of all. Orthodox Jews lives revolve around Judaism. They plan their vacations, family get togethers, schools for their children, where they live, eat, sleep, etc around being a Jew. Therefore, it's ingrained in their children (hopefully done with honesty and love and will therefore convey a positive message). You dont have that with reform and conservatives (in general) and therefore, you have the issue.
The solution is simple, yet the toughest thing in the world. Have life revolve around being Jewish rather than fit Judaism into your life.
BTW, in Orthodox communities all sports, activities, etc are on Sunday. In fact, some communities have migrated so much into their surroundings that many of the secular activities have changed to that schedule.
Your post is right on. Pretty much describes my upbringing, which did a lot to *push me away* from Judaism.
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