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What is this about?
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Afghan Lord, please post the text of the threatening message. If you are physically attacked by a BBC journalist, it will likely go down in history as the first time ever. Either way, directly threatening an individual is against the law. Please contact the Afghan police.
Paul Edwards, Australia |
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07.03.05 - 1:27 pm | #
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Dear Paul,
I have all threat messages stored. I need to translate it to English
Afghan LORD |
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07.03.05 - 2:09 pm | #
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Is he a british? If so, what right he has to threaten you for exercising your right to free speech, denied for years by tyranny in Afghanistan ?
We're here to help you. Please keep on posting.
Stefania |
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07.03.05 - 2:41 pm | #
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that looks very strange to me, I can't see the reason why someone should be so stupid to send threats like that, I'd say it sounds like a test.
pipistro |
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that's what I found out from that IP
Domain Name:
bbc.co.uk
Registrant:
British Broadcasting Corporation
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Research & Development
Kingswood Warren
Tadworth
Surrey
KT20 6NP
GB
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pipistro |
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07.03.05 - 5:36 pm | #
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...and I'd suggest to mail the whole think to:
BBC Internet Services - London - GB
abuse@bbc.co.uk
pipistro |
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07.03.05 - 5:50 pm | #
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I received your message ...^^v^^
pipistro@gmail.com
pipistro |
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07.03.05 - 6:19 pm | #
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If you want to contact me here is the address:
kabuli_2005@yahoo.com
afghanlord@yahoo.com
Afghan LORD |
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07.03.05 - 6:44 pm | #
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I'm very sorry this has happened. I've linked your post on my current issue of "Morning Report. Please keep us updated on this problem.
Hang in there.
asher - Dreams Into Lightning |
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07.03.05 - 9:51 pm | #
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There was a troll about a week or so ago, who had that same code information on an Iraqi blog, Iraq the Model. I suspect it's the same sick individual.
Pity the mind that has to engage in this childish endeavor.
Somehow, I feel you will continue to rise above it with your voice and words Afghan LORD. 
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07.03.05 - 11:15 pm | #
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Hi, I am an italian blogger and I am a Pipistro's friend, i'm so sorry for what it's happening to you.
we will try to help you as we can, above all Pipistro 
However we will introduce this history here in Italy.
Be strong...
PS Sorry for my English
mericonci |
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07.04.05 - 1:32 am | #
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Afghan Lord
according to the IP address it seems they are from london, so long way from afghanistan you should not worry too much, but you could complain to the BBC try there website
alan |
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07.04.05 - 3:10 am | #
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Afghan Lord - Please complain directly to the BBC. I will link this story too later tonight.
Please let me know if I can do anything else to help.
Monica
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07.05.05 - 3:06 am | #
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Afghan Lord:
I just found you blog today. I live in Oklahoma City. Please keep posting.
I would take the following steps:
1) I would NOT let this stop me from posting.
2) I would post the threats on your blog.
3) I would contact the local police.
4) I would contact the BBC.
5) I would contact various news media to let everyone know.
You have a very good blog and I look forward to reading it all.
Do not be frightened.
---Dan
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07.05.05 - 4:35 am | #
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I zeroed in on this: "I have all threat messages stored. I need to translate it to English."
So someone at the BBC doesn't write in English? You know, this could be from a proxy. Emails are easy to fake.
Have you traced the originating IP in the header?
If this is true, a big F.U. to the BBC. I can't fathom why they would do this, knowing it would result in very negative publicity.
Keep strong and keep writing, please.
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07.05.05 - 2:45 pm | #
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The BBC is treating this allegation seriously. We are conducting an urgent investigation both in London and in Kabul to ascertain whether the e-mails came from the BBC. We are clear that such a communication would be unacceptable if it came from any BBC staff member and would contravene BBC guidelines. We will communicate the results of our investigation as soon as we have reliable information.
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07.05.05 - 3:01 pm | #
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Richard,
I need your e-mail address to send you the threat messages
Afghan LORD |
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07.05.05 - 5:37 pm | #
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Richard Sambrook, if that comment really is from him, is the BBC's Head of News.
His email address would be richard.sambrook@bbc.co.uk
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07.05.05 - 7:30 pm | #
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holy shit, sohrab! don't stop blogging because of this. e-mail me the threat if you can.
Also, this makes me feel scared for you >_> or am I just being paranoid?
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07.05.05 - 9:00 pm | #
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Hi to everyone, I have been following this story for sometime and I am trying to be fair on both sides, but do you really think that an IP address could be a proof that the threat msgs have really come from the BBC? Also, why someone would send msgs from the BBC's system ? I mean even a dump user of computer knows that IP address could be traced in msgs. Also, all the story we are hearing at least to me, seems a way of high profiling a person and possibly for seeking refuge to another country. (sorry for being frank) but it is very illogical to think that someone, with at least a fair education (being a journalist) would send threats to another person, via an obviously trackable medium. I appoligze to be skeptical.
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friend,
as many here have pointed out, it is not difficult to make a message appear that it has come from someplace or someone that it did not come from. it is very unlikely that anyone at BBC would do this to you. but one of the easiest things to do would be to post the email address that these threats are being sent from. all of us can then email that address and let them know that people all over the world are watching.
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07.06.05 - 8:13 am | #
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You have a clear case of assault and harassment (real threat via the internet). You have the IP address. Go the Brithish authorities and file a crinimal complaint (that will start investigative process).
Next, consult a Brithish lawyer and take further injuctive action. Have your lawyer drop some papers on the BBC. That will get their attention.
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Farhad wrote: "Also, all the story we are hearing at least to me, seems a way of high profiling a person and possibly for seeking refuge to another country. (sorry for being frank) but it is very illogical to think that someone, with at least a fair education (being a journalist) would send threats to another person, via an obviously trackable medium."
What a horrible thing to write. Your insinuations are out of line.
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it's some days I'm following the whole issue and I dont'see a clue or a single indication that could make me think those threats are a fake, there simply no reason why a young fellow doing a very good work for the information in his own country would build such a thing.
the real issue is: do those threats come from BBC? or - on the other hand - where do they come from?
anyway the whole internet is now aware of the issue and that Sohrab is not alone.
...^^v^^
pipistro |
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07.06.05 - 3:15 pm | #
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The mails received are covered on Global Voices. I don't know why they aren't here.
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/glo...alvoices/?
p=281
interview with Afgan Lord here:
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/glo...alvoices/?
p=280
Any word from BBC? This really needs clearing up.
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07.06.05 - 8:55 pm | #
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The BBC employs thousands of people, this could be just one of them using his/her internet connection at their desk.
A pretty stupid person for real, maybe they used a hotmail address or something and thought it would be anonymous? I'm assuming nobody would be idiotic enough to send from their @bbb.co.uk address?
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07.06.05 - 9:03 pm | #
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At present though, nobody has yet denied his/her responsibility. A denial or anyway a press release by BBC about the issue should be proper.
pipistro |
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07.06.05 - 9:44 pm | #
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well... as i said i don't want to be unfair. But i have lived in afghanistan as well as in other countries in middle east and central asia. I am a journalist too. The impression that Mr. Sohrab Kabuli gives from afghanistan is that in this country still people have no safety if they write what they want. Well that might be true in some cases, but i have read Sohrab's weblog both in farsi and english. He writes nothing extraordinary for which he would need to keep his identity a secret. In afghanistan, people with their full name and address criticise the govt and the political process in a much stronger way openly in the local newspapers. We have had few similar cases through which people took refuge in another country. What i really don't agree with Sohrab is the impression that he gives from afghanistan to the outside world. I can send some real examples of what people in afghanistan write in newspapers and you could compare harshness of it with what Sohrab writes and judge it for yourself. Despite, the writer is known to everyone.
Respects to all...
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i forgot one more point. Sohrab says he has received the threat msgs in comment section of his farsi weblog. Why didn't he write about the threats in his farsi weblog and why has he removed the link to comment section? I couldn't actually go to comment section and to see for myself if he has really been threatened! Please dont tell me he did not write about it for his safty. Firstly he is unknown both in English and farsi weblog. Secondly leaving a comment in comment section of his farsi weblog does not change anything.
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Farhad, I understand your point of view and I appreciate your polite way of putting it, but still I don't understand why the man named by Global Voices or someone of BBC staff is not saying - as I'd say, if I were innocent, in their position - "you're nuts!" ...^^v^^
pipistro |
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07.07.05 - 2:13 am | #
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Pipistro,
I think Farhad might be on to something. I, too, have read Sohrab's blog in Farsi, and there is little in there that is too controversial. In fact, I remember him talking rather positively about the BBC's coverage, as compared to VOA or Radio Free Europe's coverage of Afghanistan. Sohrab is critical of the government and of certain groups, but his writing is rather "polite" and not too controversial. I just don't see why anyone in the BBC would want to target him.
Also, he used to have comments on his Persian site. That seems to have stopped for some reason.
However, unlike Farhad, I don't think the threat is fake. I do think someone is just playing games with poor Sohrab.
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07.07.05 - 7:59 am | #
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hi pipestro and all...
Just wanted to say that i agree with you about the BBC to take an official action on this. However, as long as i know, a senior official of the BBC has written in the same section of comments, saying that BBC takes this matter serious and is doing some investigation. So lets wait and see what will be the reaction of the BBC. Despite all... My only point is that by high profiling this story of threats, without knowing to what extend it is true, we will give a wrong imagination about afghanistan, this is the only point i don't agree in the whole stroy.
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07.07.05 - 11:43 am | #
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Farhad I have a question for you. What type of wrong imagining of Afghanistan are you afraid of?
Monica-Philadelphia |
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07.07.05 - 9:18 pm | #
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Not everybody who works at the BBC is a brain or rocket-scientist with a sense of Proper British Fair Play - it's a big damn organization full of all kinds of people, including idiots that are hard to fire once they worm their way in to a job - and even reporters aren't especially known for their technology prowess - though some are known for their bias.
Maybe it was somebody's nasty little kid who got on the computer during, "Bring Your Child To Work Day."
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Monica.... Hello to you and others...
your question seemed to me kind of ironic! I do believe as many others that afghanistan is a country still to develope both culturally and economically. But people outside afghanistan are fed really wrong and unrealistic info. about afghanistan. I am not trying to defend anyone or to condemn anyone. But the picture that anyone gets from this story about afghanistan is simply not the true picture and i just don't want people who spend their time and possbily money to get online, to be fed with info. about something that doesnt make sense. I have just questions which does make sense from Sohrab. The whole story is being kind of pushed misusing the already-misleading-info. that exist about afghanistan. And let me tell you, the issue of journalists being threated in afghanistan is a long story and amazingly all those journalists caliming being threated were kind of took refuge to another country. Well.. u c, i am not against taking refuge, i am just against making a false case, and misleading people and putting foot on the shoulder of others to gain what you want. People who do this simply get what they want, but they don't care about the wrong and sometimes dangerous effect that they leave, after getting what they want.
respects to all
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Farhad, are you from Afghanistan? Do you have your own blog?
You talk like you're an expert, so put your money where your mouth is.
I think you're jealous of Afghan Blogger. It's that simple.
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I don't understand what is ironic about my question Farhad. It is a simple question and here is what I have come away with in your answer. Please correct me if I have misunderstood.
You are afraid that Afghanistan is being portrayed as a dangerous place where people are threatened for stating their views. Is that correct?
I see that you believe the allegations of threats against Afghan Lord are false and that he is motivated in some way to lie about this so that he can get something. Is that correct?
I appreciate your response. I am just trying to understand it.
Monica-Philadelphia |
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hi everybody, at present we know that at least BBC has not understimate Sohrab's complaint, as you can read in the message of Editor for Afghanistan, Zahir Tanin.
I think we cannot but wait for further results of the investigation.
generally speaking everyone must know that a blogger is never left alone to face and deal with a threat.
pipistro |
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hi, today in i saw few msgs, particularly one from monica and one from Laura. I couldn't answer coz i was in hurry. but now, i don't see those msgs. Anyway, Laura had commented that i am jealous about the position that Sohrab Kabuli has gained. Well... Laura, I truely feel very happy for Sohrab. he is only 22, almost half of my age, and has the talent and has worked hard on his weblog. So i think you misunderstood me. Nevertheless, it does not change the fact that in my opinion, he has had a wrong approach to those possible threats. Whichever way he would select to pass the news to others, he should have been more careful not to undermine his role in passing true and flawless information to the readers about his own country. that is all i meant by contributing to the comments.
Second Monica had asked if I think Sohrab is not saying the truth. I think i never accused him of not saying the truth. From the angle that i look at the issue, the threats being real, comes second. As i said to Laura, i just don't agree with his approach to the issue. And I think monica had asked me if I am afghan, yes, i am afghan and a journalist and have worked long years in afghanistan, even under the Taliban rule. But normally don't live in afghanistan, also i should add that the reason that i come out of afghanistan was not that i was threatened or it was not safe for me. I came legally to another country and to work as a professional from the first day of my arrival.
I think someone had also asked if I have my own blog. Well.. I used to have, but unfortunately, i am a bit busy and a lot lazy and couldn't update it properly. It is a hard work and needs devotion.
Respects to all
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Farhad I appreciate your lengthy explanation although it still does not answer one of my questions. BTW - I was not the person who asked if you were Afghani.
The one question that you seem to have answered is that atleast you do not believe that Afghan Lord is lying about the threats. It seems you disagree with how he handled it.
The question you did NOT answer is this:
You are afraid that Afghanistan is being portrayed as a dangerous place where people are threatened for stating their views. Is that correct?
Will you please answer that question. Thank you.
Now to state my opinion that I believe that Afghan Lord did the ABSOLUTE CORRECT thing in reporting and publicizing these threats. They need to be brought to the light of day. Is there no law enforcement agency to investigate this? I'm sure there must be one in the UK as these types of threats are highly illegal in western nations.
In the US these types of threats would be investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. (FBI)
Monica-Philadelphia |
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Screwed up the tags, sorry.
But please answer my question Farhad. Thank you.
Monica-Philadelphia |
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07.09.05 - 8:46 am | #
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Certaintly I am sure that Farhad is linked to Ramin Anwari's relatives the person who threat Sohrab to death.
Farhad is defending from Ramin Anwari, i want to put an advise here that Farhad we are all Afghan and knows that even in Afghanistan threat to death is not normal as you thought and shows your imaginations.
Let me tell you that in America and Western country this is a crime. The person is a criminal and he or she should be jailed and punished.
Sohrab has released all the proofs and evidences that B.B.C journalist threatened him to death. Lets see what B.B.C teating to this issue.
I think this is wrong that you are continuesly asisting that sohrab want to get refugee. At least think logically. I am sure you are not a journalist if you was you wouldn't tell this thing to an independent journalist.
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Mehran I agree (although I have no knowledge of Farhad's connection with the person issuing threats..) and I would also like to state that I would not trust the BBC to do this investigation only internally and without the oversight of a law enforcement agency.
The BBC, like most any other organization, is concerned mainly with covering it's own ass.
Monica-Philadelphia |
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Hello Mehran! I usually don't get upset or emotional and I hope if we want really to have a chat about this issue, better to do it in a civilized way... you wrote:
"Farhad is defending from Ramin Anwari, i want to put an advise here that Farhad we are all Afghan and knows that even in Afghanistan threat to death is not normal as you thought and shows your imaginations".
The first part is a baseless accusation and i don't need to answer. Second part, is what exactly i mean. In afghanistan too, threats to death are not normal and it doesnt just happen so frequently. At least to threat someone from within a known media (while the media itself is involved) is something that we should be carefull of it. Now, i can accept this scenario that someone, (being a bbc journalist or not) could have used a BBC computer to send threats. I don't say, if threat is sent or not. But I ask you guys who have never been in afghanistan? what is your concept about afghanistan after reading the story? Not that Afghans are savage wild people who have no value for culture and freedom of expression? While only a year after the Taliban, the number of local papers increased from less than ten in all country to more than 180? The cases of threats against journalists in Afghanistan is not even a small fraction of what goes on in Iran or in Pakistan or in central asia. lets look to this issue in a professional way. If anyone ask you, who have not been in afghanistan, which of these countries are the worst for jounalist, wouldnt you say Afgahnistan? because now you think that even the journalists themselves are invovled in threating eachothers. Monica, I hope i have been kind of clear of my concerns... however, if not, I don't mind to explain more. But the angle from which i look into the issue is somethig that you guys might not be interested. You see a NEWS, very interesting and really hot one but i think that way of looking into issues is not proper. Also, to the one of you who said i am not a journalist, just want to say that it is my profession and I really love my job being a journlist. Also, i know no one in the BBC, And i don't care who beleives it and who doesn't.
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So by Afghan Lord making these threats public you are concerned that the perception of Afghanistan is cast in a bad light.
Tough. Listen the threats are there and it is the truth that he received them. It is appropriate for him to take them seriously and show them in the light of day.
Your being worried about how people perceive Afghanistan means nothing. Your being worried about how people perceive journalists means nothing. We in the US live in a country that is diverse and also contains a certain percentage of whackos. What one whacko does no matter what his profession or nationality does not affect our ability to see the big picture.
We are capable of simultaneously seeing the good AND the bad in a situation. We do it every day. Rarely - very rarely - is something ALL good or ALL bad.
Monica-Philadelphia |
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I think Farhad is one of the BBC persian journalist. He tries to say Sohrab is wrong and none of his friends in BBC has done any things to Sohrab. I do not think Frahad is honest in what he is saying.
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سهراب عزیز- از اینکه مجبور شدی پنجره وبلاگ فارسیت را ببندی خیلی ناراحت شدم. اگر کمکی هست که من بتونم انجام بدم حتما به من بگو. اگر وقت کردی لطفا برای من هم تحدیدهایی را که برات فرستادن را برام ایمیل کن.
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To Afghan Commentors,
I think Farhad is being honest, and you guys are acting far too aggressive against him. He is bringing up the following points which are very strange indeed and require investigation (and a degree of skepticism due to the fact that they are so rare):
1) Death threats against journalists are rare even in Afghanistan. The last one I remember was the writer who fASIzm-e moQadas. (I think he had to leave to Iran.) It's precisely that they are rare that they need to be taken seriously.
2) Death threats to journalists coming from another journalist is almost unheard of. Have you ever heard of such a thing?
That's why Sohrab's threat is really rare.
Farhad is merely saying that if this threat is not real and either Sohrab is lying (I don't think Farhad said this) or someone is playing a trick on Sohrab, broadcasting this threat as real could have a detrimental effect on the way journalism in Afghanistan is viewed.
Farhad's view is not that crazy. While I don't agree with it, I think he has a right to state it. I am with Monica that even if the threat is ultimately not real, by publicizing the threat in this manner, Sohrab "escalates" the stakes for the perpetrator. It's a good strategy for Sohrab.
Regards,
SHAITAANGUL
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I think we pretty got out of the topic but I too am convinced Fahrad is in perfect good faith and has nothing to do with BBC (or, worse, with the one threatening Sohrab) but he's trying to look at the issue from the different points of view.
On the other hand I don't agree with his feeling that Sohrab is in search of asylum in another country, nor that he is generally showing Afghanistan or journalists in a bad light.
I'd like to read the comment of "N" but I think it is in Farsi, I can't read it (and ask if someone is willing to translate it).
pipistro |
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Just so you know I didn't want to sound as though I was hounding Farhad. I truly was trying to understand what it was he was saying.
I completely disagree with him - but I don't resent him or feel he's a terrible person for not agreeing with my point of view. In fact I appreciate the responses clarifying his statements.
Monica-Philadelphia |
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07.10.05 - 10:09 am | #
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Sohrab;
Now you know why we call it the Ba'athist Broadcasting Conspiracy. 
Brian H |
07.10.05 - 12:14 pm | #
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i read all your comments... I really wonder why some of you think i have any link to the BBC. Do u really think that i am sent by the bbc to undermine Sohrab's case? Well I don't have time now to write more than this... Just for Monica, past experiences have shown that people are more like seeing everything black or white... and there are not a lot who, like you can see good with bad and if they see a bad, they won't judge.
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07.10.05 - 12:41 pm | #
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Hi everybody.
I'm reading what Sohrab says about someone browsing his blog from the same IP as the "threatener".
On July 6 I received the same news from an Italian blogger, whose web log linked Afghan Lord and reported the issue.
That blogger sent me the following information of the traffic getting in:
Data 06/07/2005 11.57.21
Nazione UNITED KINGDOM
Ip address 132.185.240.122 Regione *** ENGLAND
Host webgw2.thls.bbc.co.uk Cittą *** LONDON
Pagine Visitate 3 Lingua Browser English
Durata 00:02:17 data locale 06/07/2005 10.57.20
Browser MSIE 6.x Browser Unico 24h Si Nuovo utente Si
Piattaforma Windows 2000 n.Visite Prec. 1
Motore di ricerca Google Risoluzione 1024x768
Keywords sohrab kabuli bbc
Referral http://www.google.co.uk/search?h...?hl=en&
q=sohrab kabuli bbc&meta=
Percorso nel sito 00:00 /
01:45 /01:57 /translate_c?hl=en
In other words, on July 6 "someone" using that IP (BBC - London) was browsing the web using google in order to look for news about the topic "sohrab kabuli bbc".
pipistro |
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07.10.05 - 5:36 pm | #
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Dear Friends.
I have a stake to drive deep into these black hearted bastards' hearts. We are at war and will remain at war until the law gets a better handle on these swine terrorists. Keep the rifle and side arm clean and ready and get a good alert dog.
Recently I was sent files and photographs from Iran of agents and supporters of the false mullahas who are living in Toronto Canada and other places. Photos of these people beating woman in Iran and then photos of the same people here in Canada. You are not alone with your concerns.
You have allies you do not know about.
Praise God and pass the ammunition.
Kindly
Augurwell
Chesshire by Severn
Canada
Global Emergency Service
(Stryker Service)
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07.10.05 - 10:20 pm | #
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I think B.B.C London is using the Frame Relay System which the Afghanistan Service is part of London, a WAN Network system.
I am 100% sure that the IP(10.4.22.43)which threatened me to death is the one that i putted in my Blog. this is the exact address which i found.
I am asking from Bloggers and others Please help me, your help will safe my life.
Please help me, I need to contact to London police and court there to ask from B.B.C why they are threaten an independant journalist?
The only reason for people in B.B.C is against me is my independent and freelance style of political journalism. As I write about those important issues that "famous" media do not reflect realistically. The issues like various explosions in Kabul, the collapse of KAM Air plane, insecurity and number of other issues.
Afghan LORD |
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07.11.05 - 8:33 am | #
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Sohrab,
Do you think the ex-Parchamees at the BBC are targeting you? Did you write anything against BBC or Parchamees?
Shaitaangul
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07.11.05 - 9:05 am | #
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Shaitaangul,
I really don't know who is Parchamees and Khalqis in B.B.C and did not write about them.
Afghan LORD |
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07.11.05 - 9:30 am | #
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Dear Sohrab,
I am so sorry to hear about this. What you can do is copy those threats as evidence, then delete them from your blog.
I had someone threaten me, because I want to help the Iranian people achieve their freedom also. I just stopped answering him. He hasn't been back.
Do not allow them to win. Do not allow them to frighten you. After all, what more can they do even if they do take your life? They still have to face God who will send them to Hell! May they burn for eternity!
Please e-mail me if you need to talk.
I have a site you might like to join. It is Love America First, but it is not about only loving America. It is about loving freedom, the ideal of America.
If you would like to write here, I would be honored to have you. I do not put up with garbage! Hehehe. I am not afraid. I will guard your right to say whatever you like. Please let me know.
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07.11.05 - 6:10 pm | #
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Sohrab, Do u believe that the threats are a coordinated action by the BBC (or BBC Afghanistan) as a organization or from an individual who possibly doesn't like you for whatever reason? The reason u said that BBC is against u because u write about number of issues that BBC does not cover, doesn't seem to be logical. Because, as yourself would agree number of your audience is not even a very small fraction of the BBC's. So why do they have to care about a weblog who is accessible only to those who have internet in afghanistan. Secondly, it was after this incidence and completely by chance that i came to know about your case and your weblogs, i read almost both your english and farsi weblog, and i think many who speak farsi would agree with me that plenty of weblogs are like yours and some cases much more critics about afghanistan situation. I just can't understand why BBC (as an organization) should threat you? I don't think any stablished media would have anything to do with threatening an independent journalist. neverthelesst if you believe it is a coordinated threats for reasons you have been mentionthing, then i believe you should go to the court and the police and give them your evidences.
Farhad |
07.12.05 - 12:51 am | #
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something does not work in sending comments tonight?
pipistro |
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07.12.05 - 2:01 am | #
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Ok, now it seems it works again.
Well, I don't think that "indipendent and freelance style" would worry BBC as a whole network. On the other hand networks and companies are made of men, even idiots sometimes, and it's likely that someone is really using a computer of their office or has found the way to get out with an IP that belongs to the BBC, concealing his own. Meanwhile, waiting for their statement, I'd ask Sohrab if he has sent a complaint to the local authority or talked to someone or what. I think it would be necessary or anyway one of the first things to do.
pipistro |
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07.12.05 - 2:05 am | #
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It certainly is possible that an employee of the BBC is issuing threats. If so then legally BBC is responsible for what that employee does from it's computer.
That is why the BBC expressed concern about it. However I do still believe that law enforcement needs to be contacted.
In my opinion letting the BBC do it's own internal investigation is akin to letting the UN do it's own internal investigation. It's possible that the BBC is a notch above the UN in my estimation however I would not trust them fully.
Hang in there, honey. You're doing the right thing.
Monica-Philadelphia |
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07.12.05 - 9:41 am | #
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Hi Monica, Fahrad, Shaitaangul, everybody.
Despite who is or who isn't, it is some days someone is specifically interested on news about the topic.
The following is one of the "inspections" (dated July 12 2005) made on traffic-coming-in an italian blog referring news about our unfortunate Afghan Lord.
This time intrusion comes from the "usual" BBC IP and server, searching and translaing by Google: "sohrab kabuli".
Data 12/07/2005 10.34.54
Nazione UNITED KINGDOM
Ip address 132.185.240.122 Regione *** ENGLAND
Host webgw2.thls.bbc.co.uk Cittą *** LONDON
Pagine Visitate 1 Lingua Browser Farsi
Durata 00:00:20 data locale 12/07/2005 13.04.53
Browser MSIE 6.x Browser Unico 24h Si Nuovo utente Si
Piattaforma Windows Xp Sp2 n.Visite Prec. 1
Motore di ricerca Google Risoluzione 1024x768
Keywords sohrab kabuli
Referral http://www.google.com/search?hl=...?hl=fa&
q=sohrab kabuli
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inetnum: 132.185.0.0 - 132.185.255.255
netname: BBC
descr: British Broadcasting Corporation
descr: **************************************************
*****
descr: * This address space is used for BBC Staff members *
descr: * accessing the internet. In case of any problems *
descr: * with users of this address space (spam, attacks, *
descr: * illegal activity, etc) please email abuse@bbc.co.uk *
descr: **************************************************
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country: GB
admin-c: BBC-RIPE
tech-c: BBC-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by: BBC-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
role: BBC Internet Services Operations
address: BBC Internet Services RIPE Role Contact
address: Maiden House, Maidenhead, Berkshire, SL6 4UB.
phone: +44 1628 407 777
fax-no: +44 1628 407 701
e-mail: noc@bbc.co.uk
admin-c: BB231
tech-c: BB231
tech-c: SL108-RIPE
tech-c: JCP-RIPE
tech-c: PE119-RIPE
nic-hdl: BBC-RIPE
mnt-by: BBC-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
% Information related to 'BBC-RIPE'
route: 132.185.240.0/20
descr: BBC
origin: AS2818
mnt-by: BBC-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered
pipistro |
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07.12.05 - 7:07 pm | #
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Well.. Pipistro, I think that would be normal if bbc people are interested about the issue. afterall, it is something about them. So if they search for news or check the afghanlord blog frequently, maybe that shouldn't surprise us. However, I also agree with Monica that bbc should formally announce the results of investigations and also maybe a full report of their mechanism to do so. I think if their mechanism or their findings are not satisfying, then, we could see what more could be done.
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07.12.05 - 10:58 pm | #
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BBC "Newsnight" journalist loses it:
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http://www.stephenpollard.net/00...net/
002218.html
Peter Marshall, the Newsnight correspondent whom I quote in my Daily Mail piece below, has contacted me to complain about being taken out of context.
According to Mr Marshall, when he said that "what the war on terror was supposed to prevent, it has brought about", he was referring to the short term impact of the war. He argues that "everyone" agrees with that: "Washington, Whitehall and Colin Powell, they all say that".
I put it to him that not everyone does take that view. Me, for instance.
Mr Marshall's reponse was succinct: "I hope you can live with yourself, distorting people for cheap Daily Mail pieces".
When I pointed out that I did not distort a word of what he said, he responded thus: "You fat fuck. You fucker" and terminated the conversation.
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07.14.05 - 2:23 pm | #
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I recall something like that happening to a yahoo site right after 9/11 , the man was threatening us with more catastrophes , and he said that 9/11 was nothing compared with what was coming , one of the members boyfriends happened to be an FBI agent , next thing we know is , he was traced and found arrested questioned , and you know what he was using a universitys enternet to say all these things ..oh I forgot to mention , he was a professor also and he did say americans were dumb and he was of the muslim faith ....
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