Sunbeltblog comments
Sweet... I couldn't get into the site and I was starting to get worried. I should have known better! Our pals at Blue Sec. are tougher than a few "route to null" and DDoS attacks. If anything theif venture capital will double now because they've been proven effective by these attacks. They'll get air time on CNN, and they'll get hardware that's better able to manage the types of attacks that are presently being waged. I doubt this is the last time the spammers will try to hit the Blue Community - I almost wish they had a pay-pal account so I could toss a five spot their way to help buy some mondo burly hardware to help fend off these criminals.
This is the perfect setup for the ultimate scam.
1. Acquire a large list of email addresses.
2. Sell that list to spammers for lots of money.
It reminds me of the torrent website shutdowns a while ago. A popular one was being hounded by the RIAA and the guy got his story posted on Slashdot. Apparently people donated upwards of $75,000 for his inevitable legal fees. Then the guy gives in and disappears with the cash. LOL.
Think about it. Some group has a huge database of known good email addresses just ripe for spamming. The service is free, so they're not making much if any money directly off of it. Even being open-source does not save it. Very recently Azureus (open source BitTorrent client written in Java) was involved in a commercialization deal. Maybe part of it is an attempt to legitimize BitTorrent, but I am willing to bet a large part of it is money. If Azureus is willing to sell-out (if you want to call it that), what's to prevent BlueSecurity from doing the same thing? Even if they don't, all it takes is one disgruntled employee to screw everyone. I would rather take my chances by myself than submit my email address to any database. I might consider a federal database that carried penalties similar to the national Do Not Call list, but I don't think we are anywhere near that. The Internet is still in the early Wild West days. By the time we get a stranglehold on this email spam problem it will be too late; the spammers will have moved on to telepathic spam.
I am in 100% support of Blue Security. I just got one of those nasty emails from the spammers says i was an F!@#% Moron and such. Which means all of us at Blue Frog have now properly engaged the enemy (Spammers) We ned to support Blue Security with out loyal to help fight the good fight against spam.
To the guy who wrote comment #2... What a COWARD! To run with your "wild west" comparison a little... Do you think the wild west was won and tamed by snivelling little wusses who bellied up at the first sign of trouble? I doubt BF will be gone for long. The black hats can't keep DDOSing forever. This publicity has raised awareness and brought a bunch of people to the cause who are just queued up and waiting for the registration servers to come back up. The back-lash is going to be tremendous. If BF was enough of a pain to spammers to merit this kind of attention before, then just wait for what is coming.
So get your tail out from between your legs and fight for something worth while already...
Site appears to be down still.
I don't know why you consider my comments cowardly; all I'm saying is that the relevant laws (if they even exist!) and means to enforce them are not able to cope with today's technology and problems. The only viable solutions right now are purely technological (filters, whitelists, etc), and while they can keep much of the junk from getting to your eyes they do nothing to stop the junk from being sent in the first place.
I see two strong messages from this recent attack by the spammers:
(1) BlueFrog is having the desired effect. The spammers are now diverting some of their resources to fighting back which means less resources for traditional spamming. This is an increase in their costs and a decrease in their bottom line.
(2) The spammers have shot themselves in the foot. Nobody likes to be threatened. Even more important, incremental escalation is taken in stride, but sudden escalation gets noticed. If cigarette taxes increased ten-fold, a lot of people would quit immediately, but nickle-and-dime increases don't cause dramatic change in behavior. The same is true for spam. We've all accepted the slow but steady increase in our spam counts, but if I'm going to suddenly get hit with ten-times the amount in an overnight increase, then that's not going to make me lay low. That's going to firmen my resolve and fight back. It's also going to be immediately noticed by major ISPs and regulatory agencies because it will suddenly and drastically affect email services worldwide.
I think the spammers are going to suddenly get a lot more attention and they're not going to like it! I'm not backing down. In fact, I'm even more ready to fight.
Bring it on!
You've already trained me how to manage my spam, I can handle an increase... can you?
It looks like all of bluesecuritys sites are down, I can't even report spam becouse my emails are bouncing back. And I'm getting a lot of spam to my email (30 a day) before the incident it was only 1 a day.
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