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I also want to remind everyone to remember Proposition 8 (California gay marriage initiative) in their prayers today. If gay marriage is made legal in California, there's a good chance it might come to your state next!
The idea that a vote for Obama will kill a million babies is the most ridiculous scare tactic in the history of politics. It's simply not true. Roe vs. Wade was decided long ago - 1973 to be exact - and it's not about to be overturned. To be overturned the SC would have to go back and overturn precedents. It's not going to happen, people. It is time for Catholics to understand that (as St. Augustine said) "some evils are here to stay".
I find it humorous that you people feel you’re doing a service to the unborn by voting for a pro-life candidate. John McCain cares nothing of the un-born and neither does his pro-choice wife. Reversing Roe vs. Wade isn’t exactly at the top of his priority list – but he sure fooled you people.
This election isn’t about Roe vs. Wade; it’s about economic justice and an end to an unjust war in Iraq; it’s about fundamental differences in regulatory philosophy. There are many issues at stake that will inarguably be affected by your decision.
These issues will affect millions of people, the world over. It’s inarguable that a conservative regulatory policy brought us into this economic mess; it’s inarguable that the war in Iraq is an unjust war. Your decision will affect the life of a single-mother. These issues are tangible. They will be affected.
Voting for a pro-life candidate (especially John McCain) who wants to continue the path of economic and environmental deregulation, and continue an unjust war in Iraq with a possible war with Iran is not doing a service to anyone. Abortions will be here in another 8 years.
If McCain wins, you conservative Catholics will still be with us. It’s my job to hold you people accountable if the economy tanks and America is at war with Iran - all the while abortion is still rearing its ugly head. If you cared about limiting abortions you would spend time trying to limit the negative social, economic and psychological conditions that cause so many abortions. We will see if your symbolic victory over Roe vs. Wade has made any progress.
Kyle, the straw is piling up fast!
Even if what you say about McCain is true (e.g. he doesn't care about the unborn), we know exactly where Obama stands on the unborn. There is no need to recount, AGAIN, his positions. You do the heavy lifting and look them up and consider them.
You seem to be okay with abortion as "an evil that is here to stay." I'm not. And as catholics, we never can be.
Perhaps your long-winded rant reflects a conscience disturbed? Well it should be disturbed. Were this 1930s Germany would you too vote for Chancellor Hitler? Because, morally, the positions are similar.
You may think this election isn't "about Roe v. Wade" and you're welcome to think it's about "economic justice and ending the war in Iraq" (two things I support, by the way), but there are issues that take priority and from which all others flow. This is Catholic Social Teaching 101 for goodness sake.
Put aside your bitterness for the republicans and THINK about the babies that will be dismembered, burned, partially-born (then brutally killed) or left to die without even the loving embrace of a human being. Think about THEM and then tell me how to vote!
Oh, and you give Obama too little credit. I suspect the abortion numbers to go much higher. God, help us.
Abortion CAN end.
Here are some other evils that were thought to be 'here to stay'.
In the Roman empire, the gladiatorial games were 'here to stay'. One monk, Telemachus, jumped into an arena and pleaded to stop the games. He was killed in the spot. His death shocked the emperor so much that he outlawed the games.
Slavery was 'here to stay'. In the Dred Scott decision, the Supreme Court ruled that a slave was property. It took a religious revival and a war to amend the Constitution and over-rule the Supreme court.
Our Lord is bigger than the evils that are allegedly 'here to stay'. He can end this slaughter. And if not (remember Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego?), I will still not cast my support to a pro-abort.
"Some evils are here to stay"? You could apply the same logic to murder, adultery, rape, hunger, etc. Those have been here since the beginning of time and will always be here. Since they aren't going anywhere why should we try to stop them from happening? Right?
I bet people said the same thing about slavery. I guess we can all be glad people did not sit around and decry "Well, as old Augustine would say, I guess some evils are here to stay."
I don't know Augustine all that well, but I am fairly certain that was not exactly what he meant. Even if some evils do appear to be sticking around for a while, I would still argue it is our moral obligation to do something about them. I would include doing something about limiting the negative social, economic, and psychological conditions that cause abortion as well. As a woman I do think you can have it both ways: you can be against abortion and still support mothers who find themselves in a crisis pregnancy. The Catholic Church and the Pro-Life movement has been doing it for years.
I would also add that while McCain is certain not the ideal pro-life candidate, he certainly is much less pro-abortion than his opponent. Obama's first action once he is president? Pass FOCA. It would allow complete strangers to take a parent's underage daughter and force her to have an abortion without their prior knowledge. And that infringes on the rights of parents. Among other things...
The line was out the door this morning at my polling place. Three-times as long as I've ever seen it. And folks were quiet this time. Not a lot of banter. It felt weird.
"Some evils are here to stay"? You could apply the same logic to murder, adultery, rape, hunger, etc. Those have been here since the beginning of time and will always be here. Since they aren't going anywhere why should we try to stop them from happening? Right?
Yes, you're right. And guess what? We're dealing with those horrible evils. The best way we can.
Nerina,
Give me a damn break. I am NOT okay with abortion. You people seem to think that anyone that is against your abortion strategy is PRO-ABORTION. You people are ridiculous if you believe ending Roe vs. Wade is the only way to reduce abortions.
You all have learned a lot from the Bush:
"You're either with us (AmP and a minority of Bishops) or you're against us"
The claims you people make are so blind and short-sighted.
Call me a fake catholic all you want. I don't need your blessing.
Yes, you're right. And guess what? We're dealing with those horrible evils. The best way we can.
Yep. And it should be no surprise that 3 of the 4 are intrinsicly immoral and also illegal.
I am NOT okay with abortion. You people seem to think that anyone that is against your abortion strategy is PRO-ABORTION.
You people are ridiculous if you believe ending Roe vs. Wade is the only way to reduce abortions.
It would be ridiculous. Now show me ANYONE who believes this. Making it illegal is not the only way, but as long as it is legal, the pro-life movement is hamstrung.
Is direct abortion intrinsicly evil? Meaning always and everywhere wrong?
The claims you people make are so blind and short-sighted.
Call me a fake catholic all you want. I don't need your blessing.
You are in meltdown mode now. Let me suggest a break and return with less flailing about.
Scott W., what a pathetic response. This board is full of people that think voting for a pro-life candidate is the only choice for a catholic in this election. That in itself implies single-issue, single-strategy voting. Because you obviously don't understand what kills babies.
Just as the NRA people say: Guns don't kill people, people kill people. So creating a gun law will do nothing to stop gun violence.
Roe vs. Wade doesn't kill people, people under economic and psychological stress kills people.
Simply banning Roe won't stop abortions. You people need to support a candidate whose philosophies ease the burden on the demographic that is responsible for the most abortions.
Single-issue voters are in meltdown mode because they're not going to get their way in this election.
If Obama wins (as all of the polls indicate) I'll drop off a box of tissues for AmP and his sheep.
I've got pics up from our overnight Election Eve Adoration Vigil at Assumption Grotto. It was a great turnout considering the distance many had to travel to get there (we are a commuter parish).
BTW - Tom, loved your interview with Abp Chaput. Good questions and you were relaxed. Look forward to more.
Nuts! Wrong link. Here's the link to the all night Adoration pics at Grotto.
Kyle, do you think abortion is gravely wrong, the most important human rights issue of our time? Do you actually think Obama will reduce the number of abortions in this country?
It's not surprising we come to different conclusions if we start from different points. It is surprising that you can't figure out why we do.
Keep the kleenex and buy yourself a light bulb.
and p.s. if you think our argument for supporting McCain is that he will simply overturn Roe v. Wade then you haven't even done the most basic reading. you do realize you make yourself out to be a fool when you so clearly don't understand what we are talking about in the first place. for instance, Catholics provide the vast majority of abortion alternatives in this country (adoption agencies, mother support programs, etc). We really put our money where our mouth is.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but the presumption you demonstrate gives me little sympathy for you. Try doing your homework before jumping in with the big kids.
Kyle. I apologize. I shouldn't assume to know where you stand on every issue, but frankly, I didn't know that you weren't "okay" with abortion based on what you have written in other posts.
I'm glad to know that you are not okay with it. Truly. But you need to step back and stop painting all "pro-lifers" with such a broad brush. You seem to think we are all baby obsessed and that we care nothing about the other issues. Have you bothered to actually talk to many pro-life advocates? I mean really talk to them. I think you'd be surprised.
Like myself, for example. Not only do I pray outside clinics and support my local pregnancy center, I also volunteer in inner-city schools,and donate generously to relief agencies that focus on the suffering of unimaginable poverty (something we in the US have no idea about). In my spare time I'm raising five children in whom I hope to impart my concern and compassion for all the vulnerable members of our society (and by the way, having an autistic son I think makes me very sensitive to the whole "hunt and destroy" abortion movement).
Stop looking at us like we're the problem. We ARE working to address the issues that underlie the decision to abort a baby. But you have to face the fact that many, many abortions take place simply for convenience. How do we address this reality in a political way? One way is to make it more difficult to procure an abortion and that means working for legal remedies.
And I like to note that I never called you a "fake Catholic."
Peace to you, Kyle.
"Voting for a pro-life candidate (especially John McCain) who wants to continue the path of economic and environmental deregulation, and continue an unjust war in Iraq with a possible war with Iran is not doing a service to anyone."
Unjust according to your judgment. That matter is debatable: it may or may not be unjust.
What is not debatable is that abortion is intrinsically evil and can never be supported, let alone expanded in the way that Obama has laid out.
That's the teaching of the Church, as elucidated by many good Bishops throughout this election season. Pure and simple.
If one does not adhere to that, then they are not Catholic. You cannot be a Catholic and oppose Church teaching on fundamental matters of faith and morals.
This is not even to bring up the other intrinsic evils that Obama supports: human cloning, homosexual marriage, euthanasia, ESCR.
I have a friend who is personally against abortion, thinks it a "tragedy" yet thinks it should remain "legal, safe and rare." They are his exact words. How many other "tragedies" like that should be kept legal, safe and rare, I wonder?
We do not know better than the teachings of the Church. The rationalizations flying about, such as my friend's above, simply show the ridiculousness of one taking the responsibility of the Pope and Magisterium into one's own hands.
Last night on Relevant Radio Drew Mariani interviewed John Yanta, Bishop of Amarillo, TX from 1997-2008. Bishop Yanto mentioned that when he was installed as ordinary of the diocese, there were 19 Planned Parenthood clinics in his diocese alone. He organized a group to pray for the respect of life and end to abortion, specifically by praying the rosary. Within a few years, eighteen of the clinics had closed and there is only one abortion farm in Amarillo today.
We can never give up. Evil is part of this world and has been since the Fall, but that doesn't mean we give up and throw in the towel. Satan is only victorious when we stop fighting him. We are engaged in a cosmic war that has been raging since the beginning of time, and this is no time to sit idly by and shrug that "there will always be evil." What's the real audacity of hope? Believing that our God is victorious because of the Cross, and acting like it!
We are the Church Militant. Let's put on the armor of God!
St. Michael the Archangel, ora pro nobis!
Dr. Peters,
The line was out the door this morning at my polling place. Three-times as long as I've ever seen it. And folks were quiet this time. Not a lot of banter. It felt weird.
I think this is a good sign. I live in a town that has a large elderly population so there was banter amongst them, but those in my age group (30-somethings) were dead silent and had a genuine look of fear on their faces.
When I walked home I ran into my landlord (who all this time I thought was voting for Obama). The first thing he said to me was, "Do you believe this stuff? Do you believe all of the stuff they are selling? Did you go and do something to save the world today?"
Because I didn't want to get into an Obama debate, I just nodded my head, but he kept on shooting code language at me. Finally, I explained, "That depends, I don't know what exactly it is you are talking about."
Then I told him, "No, I don't believe any of it. I don't care about which candidate says what about the economy, I have to vote my conscience. Obama is the most radically pro-abortion candidate ever."
Then I started to talk about FOCA, thinking the whole time he was going to light me up. Turns out that he voted for McCain, too. Not because he likes McCain, but because he wants to stop Obama.
Kyle, respond to this: Obama believes that some people have the power of life and death over innocent and defenseless people. True or false?
It can be false only if there is certainty that an unborn baby is definitively not a real live person. All the science available shows that a human person comes into existence at conception. Therefore, it must be true.
Therefore, Obama's position is subversive with respect to the Constitution. The power of life and death over innocent and defenseless people is prohibited by the 5th Amendment to the Constitution, which says in part, "no one shall be denied life... except by due process of law." It does not discriminate against non-citizens, by age, development, cognitive abilities--it doesn't even discriminate between those definitively having life (such as post-birth persons) and those individuals who exist and are inexorably destined to attain life (such as even pro-abortionists concede about the embryo). In other words, a pregnancy at the very least will result in a concrete person attaining life, and abortion denies that person his life, without due process of law. And even this is prohibited by the Consitution.
You are no doubt against the death penalty, which means you do not concede that anyone should have the power of life and death over others, not even the guilty. Yet Obama says that some people have the power of life and death over innocent and defenseless people.
You add it up for yourself. I personally don't think you're thinking too clearly.
I am very happy about the link to Sean Malstrom's analysis of the polls. What he says makes a lot of sense. I've been depressed at the prospect of an Obama win, mitigated only by the likelihood of an excellent, principles-based candidate to dethrone him 2012. I'm happier now.
And now that we're at election day, I will say this: Given that a Democrat candidate should have trounced the Republican this year, McCain-Palin has done very well, win or lose, and they deserve congratulations.
(I still think they could have done even better, but I have great respect for what they did accomplish.)
Obama will not end war, just relocate it in Afghanistan and Pakistan. He cannot bring the number of abortions down by promoting them. Who here is willing to have their taxes spent this way? For those in MI who are voting to make the use of embryos available for experimentation, I ask, would you willingly give your child or grandchild to be used in the process? Or is it just someone else's grandchild? What cure is worth using our children as objects for experimentation?
For those Catholics who cannot see beyond the Messiah Obama, I am praying that God's Will be done. I'm banking on not having to answer to the aborted children in heaven that I stood by and let them be snuffed out for the sake of convenience or for science.
As far as Biden is concerned, what is worth the price of never receiving our Lord, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity again in your life? What a price to pay, just like Esau giving away his birthright for a bowl of beans.
Lord, have mercy on us, for we do know what we are doing
Another question, just for my own curiosity; do Catholics that vote for Obama say a daily rosary? Do they pray to our National Patroness, Our Lady of Guadelupe?
Joe, same thought sorta crossed my mind...I said a rosary while in line. Prayed mostly for my country.
Kyle is seriously delusional. He is an example of what happens to the mind when it has been indoctrinated with progressive liberal garbage.
I truly feel pity for you, Kyle. I hope the Lord blesses you and saves you from the evil you have embraced.
"Kyle, respond to this: Obama believes that some people have the power of life and death over innocent and defenseless people. True or false?"
As he is pro-choice I am guessing the answer is: True.
I'm very sorry that he believes this.
That said, I'm not a single-issue voter. And no, Atheling, I'm not a 'fake-catholic' for having this stance.
I, and millions of other American Catholics and a Majority of American Bishops do not believe in single-issue voting.
I believe we are wasting our valuable time and resources focusing on overturning a court case that will never be overturned. We need to take a more realistic approach to limiting abortions - which there are plenty.
Faithful Citizenship wouldn't have passed with the following two statements if most American Bishops agreed with you people:
1)'we are not single-issue voters'
2)"a catholic cannot vote for a candidate that supports an intrinsic evil, such as abortion, IF (what does if mean?) the voters intent is to support that position"
I am not going to argue with you people about these two statements anymore, because I don't have to do so to know that I'm right about this.
That said, I do not get my beliefs from 25% (a minority) of American Bishops coupled with some kid named Thomas Peters.
The election is being decided as we speak. What you think and what I think doesn't make a difference at this point, because of two reasons:
1) You don't agree with me and a majority of American Bishops; and
2) I don't agree with you and a minority of American Bishops.
Finally, regardless of how you feel about me, I don't believe catholics who disagree with me are 'fake catholics'.
Pax
Kyle:
You keep on fretting about being called a "fake Catholic", yet you claim that Roe v. Wade will never be overturned. Realities about judicial rulings aside, don't you even believe in miracles as a Christian?
Second, you harp about war. Unlike you, I believe that wars will never be stopped. The earth is not heaven, and we are cursed with war because of original sin. Nothing in history can substantiate the pacifist delusion about it. Yet, like slavery, Roe v. Wade can be won. And also like slavery, it will be true Christians who will fight for that victory.
It's sad to see that you have lost hope, and have embraced a lie.
"I'm not a single-issue voter."
If a candidate is wrong on life, he is wrong on every issue, as no other issue means a thing to the innocents who are killed.
"You keep on fretting about being called a "fake Catholic", yet you claim that Roe v. Wade will never be overturned. Realities about judicial rulings aside, don't you even believe in miracles as a Christian?"
Oh give me a break, Atheling...
Of course I believe in miracles.
"Second, you harp about war. Unlike you, I believe that wars will never be stopped. The earth is not heaven, and we are cursed with war because of original sin."
Replace 'war' with 'abortions' and I think you'll begin to understand how I feel.
It's not Roe v. Wade we should have a problem with. It's a court case. We need to be attentive to the causes of abortions.
OK, let's say Roe v. Wade is overturned and abortions are illegal for the first time in over 30 years... women will still have abortions! We will have our symbolic victory over a court case, yet will be stuck with the abortions. At times I get the feeling you all are more pissed about Roe v. Wade than the actual act of aborting a baby.
If it's overturned, we will be behind on solving economic, social and psychological conditions that cause women to abort their child, because we've decided it's better to elect a Joe the Plumber as president, simply because he's pro-life, as opposed to a pro-choice candidate who just might be a better president, overall.
But hey, 'we sure kicked Roe's ass!'
That's my point, people. I agree with Atheling in that "we will always have war". But I'll take it a step further: we'll always have evils in this world, such as abortion, torture and racism, so we must find the best strategy in fighting them.
Pax
Ps: I know AmP appreciates my participation because posts I comment on have about 1000% more discussion than those without my participation.
Kyle,
I think AmP uses you as a vivid example of the absolute obstinance of pro-Obortion Catholics.
"I'm not a single-issue voter."
If a candidate is wrong on life, he is wrong on every issue, as no other issue means a thing to the innocents who are killed.
- bill912"
Tell that to the starving single-mother whose food-stamps were cut and is only making minimum wage at the local burger hop.
Kyle, yes, the fate of our country is being decided as we speak. If Obama prevails and then passes FOCA, you will know him to be a liar and yourself to be duped. FOCA is the key. You can't both pass FOCA and be truthful about reducing the number of abortions.
But what scares me more, is that you acknowledge Obama to be someone who believes that some people have the power of life and death over innocent people, in direct violation of the Constitution, and you will be fine with him taking an oath to uphold the COnstitution.
And this is okay, because you're not a single-issue voter, and because it's a more efficient and humane way to end abortion.
Doesn't Obama's head-in-the-sand approach to the science of human life undermine his credibility on the science of the economy and the math about taxes?
Doesn't this "some people have the right to kill others" mentality call into question his motives and purposes in his positions on the war, poverty, immigration, and other issues? Obviously, he's not out to help the poor, innocent, and defenseless of society--because those are the kind of people he lets other people kill.
Do you seriously believe that this power to kill will be limited to abortion?
Sorry, for me and many others, abortion isn't single-issue voting, because anyone who refuses to protect innocent life lacks the wisdom to lead this country, and he lacks credibility and moral authority on every other issue.
It's sort of like voting for Hitler to end racial discrimination.
I could really care less what he (AmP) thinks. He's in the same boat as a couple of other clowns posing as reporters: Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity.
Kyle: Tell that to God. Your argument is with Him, not me.
Doc, give me a break. This same BS was said about Clinton. You all fall for these dooms day prophecies every election cycle.
By the way, why don't you focus all of your wrath on Congress and not the President - take government 1113 and you'll understand where I'm going with this.
Bill, people like you put God in a box and assume you know who he'd support for president. Don't worry, me and the man upstairs are doing just fine.
No, Kyle. I know right from wrong, as it was taught by Christ through His Church.
I hope your last sentence is true. The most I can say about myself is that I'm *trying* to "just fine" with Him.
I wasn't aware that I was assuming I knew who God would support for president. But, then, what do I know about me?
I find it amazing that Kyle and others like him think that financial and psychological stress are the primary reasons people get abortions. Those reasons are in there, for sure, but he's forgetting: "This is an inconvenience to my life." "This is interfering with my graduate degree or career development." "This pregnancy will ruin our dreams of a nice big McMansion or our European vacation tour schedule." "Being pregnant ties me down to no more fun as a single person." The list goes on and on. If anyone thinks a great number of abortions haven't happened for these reasons, as well, then they ARE delusional.
"You people are ridiculous if you believe ending Roe vs. Wade is the only way to reduce abortions. "
We live in a nation of laws. As long as Roe, combined with Casey, are in place, Abortion will continue to be available in all cases (especially if Obama gets in and signs FOCA). From the perspective of simply being committed to respect for the constitution, one must fight to overturn Roe, the most egregiously ignorant and arrogantly presumptive decision handed down by the court.
We must be forced to admit that Obama would not aid us in that fight. Those who vote(d) for Obama aren't ruling out just one (essential) battle: they are ruling out all battles. Obama will do all he can to end the debate, and end restrictions. Bye bye, parental notification. Hello again, Partial-birth abortion.
Kyle, I think you're mistaken about that "majority of American Bishops" thing. The ones who have made statements say that we should not support candidates who support abortion. The rest haven't said anything. I'd be really interested to see if you know of any Bishops who have publically spoken the other direction.
And you're publically and willfully disobeying your own Bishop.
And yeah, someone who leads others to sin by failing to uphold the teachings of the Church is a fake Catholic.
"I find it amazing that Kyle and others like him think that financial and psychological stress are the primary reasons people get abortions."
I find it amazing you don't.
I'm not disobeying my Bishop. I read his statement. His personal belief is that abortion is the top issue. It was written in the sooner catholic. However, he hasn't ordered his priests to provide single-issue statements to their parishes.
Once again, just because you interpret something one way, doesn't mean it's fact.
Kyle. Read comments fully. CharL did acknowledge the financial and psychological components in deciding to have an abortion. But CharL also pointed out (as I did in an earlier post) that many abortions are done out of convenience. It is an ugly truth, but one that must be faced if we are to address ALL the reasons (as you insist we must) that lead to abortion.
We could significantly reduce the incidence of abortion if more people would have their children and then give them up for adoption. This way they don't have the financial burden of raising an unwanted child and they are not guilty of killing an innocent human being. And I realize it must be a very difficult decision to trust another person to raise your child, but I hear all the time how "difficult" the decision to abort is. Why isn't adoption promoted more by the pro-abortion crowd as a true alternative?
And I am a single-issue voter and I'm okay with that. Plus, while helpful, the document "Faithful Citizenship" has no magisterial weight. None. I appreciate that almost all of the bishops approved of it, but the fact remains that it doesn't bind any of us.
I find it amazing you don't.
Kyle,
Again do you have any facts? I do, I sit on the board of an inner-city crisis center. Still waiting for you to respond to my 8 different positions of Obama's that are in opposition to Church teachings. As I have been writing for several months this is not a one issue election.
I too, Kyle, would like to have your facts. Where are the statistics that show that most women have abortions for economic reasons?
I worked for Birthright for a great many years, and my experience doesn't match with your claim.
My strong impression is that those women who came to us who were poor were almost never even thinking of having abortions. They came to us for free pregnancy tests and free maternity and baby clothes; they were able to cope with the pregnancy; they just needed a bit of help.
Crisis pregnancy centers like ours send women to various community and government agencies (which we were able to do no matter which party was in office), and arrange for low-cost medical care for them when possible.
What drives women and girls to have abortions is generally fear, fear of their parents finding out, fear of their boyfriends or husbands leaving them, fear of losing the opportunities for education. Sometimes there were more selfish reasons, such as fear of being "tied down," but not that often. These are the women we generally have to counsel against abortion, not those whose primary problem is poverty.
Obama wants to remove all government funds from crisis pregnancy centers like ours - centers that are right now the prime helpers of poor pregnant women, centers that do the kind of work that you claim Obama wants done.
And they often prevent abortions. But Obama is against funding these centers. This tells you a great deal about his priorities. His priorities are abortions, not pregnant women.
His (so far hypothetical) legislation may or may not add much to what's already available. But women and babies, I'm afraid, will pay an enormous price for it.
Very often, women are driven to abortion by others: their parents, their boyfriends; for young girls, the older man who is molesting them or the mother's boyfriend comitting incest with them (who Planned Parenthood usually doesn't turn in)
I don't know if these problems can be solved with the type of government programs Obama proposes.
But strict laws and regulations on abortion have been PROVEN to reduce their number. Look at the major decline that took place in abortions since the parental notification, informed consent and other laws have gone into effect. These deal with the real reasons for abortion.
I don't think you have much of a case that Obama would reduce abortions. Instead, FOCA if passed is going to greatly increase them. So will the free rein Obama will give to embryonic stem cell research. And on and on.
Your reasoning doesn't work.
"he hasn't ordered his priests to provide single-issue statements..."
Single issue? How about FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE, or PRIMARY ISSUE. If you're dead, do you care about health insurance?
Kyle, there was no proportionate reason to support Obama. The end.
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