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Why does evil feel such a need to justify itself in public? Like we were gonna have the faintest idea how these ladies voted if they hadn't shouted about it. I'm mean, the good just kinda gets done, you know?, without a lot of fanfare. Evil, oto, always seems to be justfying itself, even when no one is asking.
These 'nuns' are members of the Sisters of Loretto. If you go look at their website you see that they are all old 1970's hippie nuns. The natural solution to this problem will occur shortly.....
It is clear from the one abortion story linked to that Srs. Coyle and Cunningham are voting for Obama for various reasons, including his stance on abortion rights. The letter also states, "We encourage respect for the moral adulthood of women and will choose legislators who will recognize the right of women to make reproductive decisions and receive medical treatment according to the rights of privacy and conscience."
This stands in direct conflict, even with the ambiguity of the FFC document, "A Catholic cannot vote for a candidate who takes a position in favor of an Intrinsic Evil, such as abortion or racism, if the voter’s intent is to support that position. If so, a Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in grave evil."
Ed perhaps you could explain what the just punishment should be in this case?
The biggest problem with these 1970's hippie nuns is that they will not let any MALE tell them what they must do. Horrors! They are not going to really listen to any pope or bishop!
My goodness, I never knew that there was a "Catholic" organization so evil! I looked up the website of the NCAN and was shocked at what I read. I must be living under a rock.
Pray for these nuns and pray for the poor Bishops and Priests who must confront them and educate against their lies and, dare I say, heresy.
I took a look at their site. Are we sure these are really nuns? Cuz they sure ain't Catholic. I just kept saying "Wow", "Wow", with everything I read. Unbelievable.
There problem isn't what the gospel says about lying; it's what the gospel says about leading others to sin.
Papist, can you PLEASE find a counter article to this, because if there are no nuns out there speaking the truth I think I am going to puke. This is just horrible.
These poor sisters. We should pray for them and firmly chastise them for spreading this error. As Catholics it is our duty to instruct the ignorant isn't it.
I guess they support the 9/11 hijackers, as long as they carried out their tasks by following their own conscience.
As one whose hometown and former home are within the Archdiocese of Louisville, I am ashamed of the Sisters of Loretto and a goodly portion of the Sisters of Charity of Nazareth and the Springfield Dominican Sisters - all founded in that historic place - and what they have become.
May God grant Archbishop Kurtz what is needed to bring these deluded sheep out of peril.
It's too bad these radical rascals are given any shred of credibility. The discord they sow in the Church through their shameless arrogance is something that likely matters not. Terribly sad but something we've all encountered much too often.
Regards from Canada.
Tony
Michelle, your counter example can be the Sisters of Life in NYC. Yes, there is hope.
As distressing (and predictable) as this nonsense is, there is a great deal of hope to be found! New Cosmology Nuns are dying out as fast as they can repudiate basic Christian teaching. The Tick-Tock Solution is only a decade away. Where can hope be found? Right here, my friends: http://www.cmswr.org
This is the future of the Church!
Fr. Philip, OP
Wow, I had no idea there were protestant nuns!
Very sad.
Over the pope, as the expression of the binding claim of ecclesiastical authority, there still stands one’s own conscience, which must be obeyed before all else — if necessary, even against the requirement of ecclesiastical authority.”
What is the source of this quote?
Papist, can you PLEASE find a counter article to this, because if there are no nuns out there speaking the truth I think I am going to puke. This is just horrible.
I don't know if she has spoken on the election, but this nun http://asksistermarymartha.blogspot.com/ blogs and has interests such as dusting pews, scrubbing floors on hands and knees, hours of comtemplative prayer, terrorizing children.
What is the source of this quote?
Not sure. But it is evident that it is a mangled understanding of the role of conscience as this error is the bread and butter of every dissenter I've ever met. There is a book I'd like to get that counters it. Father Thomas D. Williams: Knowing Right from Wrong: A Christian Guide to Conscience. Here's some Q&A from Zenit that explains the error:
Q: Why this book, and why now?
Father Williams: This book is more necessary now than ever before. If ever our society needed greater moral clarity, it is now.
The two major errors concerning conscience -- conscience as infallible, unimpeachable guide and conscience as a mere vestige of Freudian superego -- are even more prevalent today than they were 30 years ago.
Q: Care to explain these errors in a bit more depth for the uninitiated?
Father Williams: Many today appeal to conscience as the final arbiter of good and evil. By this view of conscience, good and evil do not exist outside of our moral judgment, but are created by it. What I sincerely judge to be good and right becomes good and right because of that judgment. Sincerity is all that matters. By this logic, it makes no sense to try to tell someone else what is good or right, even, for example, if you are the Church's magisterium. In the end, conscience would not apply an objective moral law that stands above it, but would supplant the moral law. Conscience would trump everything.
Father Philip, thanks for the link. I think I recognize one of the Dominican Sisters of St. Cecilia in the picture on that site.
It's always wonderful to see her when she comes to visit her family. My kids are in awe of nuns. When they've seen a nun in her habit at Mass, they've whispered to my wife "mommy, there's a saint here!" Most of the female saints they've studied have been nuns, so the pictures always have them in habits.
Kids are fun like that...they recognized Bishop Flores here in Detroit as a Bishop, but they thought he was St. Patrick.
Wasn't Blessed Mother Theresa a Sister of Loretto...differant group...prior to leaving the order and founding the Sisters of Charity.
Sister of Loretto? Well, that explains everything. I had some association with some of them a few years back. Radical (and man-hating) feminism was their "gospel" as I recall. Fidelity to the Church and her moral teaching did not seem of much interest to them; in fact they often seemed hostile to it. I was amazed then, and I still am, how the "good sisters" - these and others-became so infected by the World.
It's nice to see the "Sisters" doing Satan's work for him. They're deluded heretics. It's good orders like these are dying out. Tom
Where do these nuns get their money? How do they pay the rent? Does it come from some diocese?
GW,
It is interesting that you bring up the topic of money. After running across this conference a little over a year ago I have stopped contributing to general funds for the religious and put my contributions to specific orders instead.Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist,the Nashville Dominicans, Sisters of St. Joseph the Worker, and the Sisters of Life are all good options. I tried to provide links to each of these but Haloscan won't let me put that many links in a comment so I will put the links on the post I linked above.
Catholic Mom,
Thanks for the info. I'll have to keep that in mind the next time there is a second collection for unspecified religious.
Catholic Mom, you are very wise. Director your funds to the good gals, not the evil gals. Tom
In a time when the lay Uncle Toms to the lib establishment are being unmasked, these errant whackadoos have been revealed as Aunt Jemimas.
Who do those gals think they are? Questioning a bishop?
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