AmericanPapist Comments
That made my day!!!!!
PWN3D.
PWN3D.
Beat me to it.
pwnZ0rd!
I do not understand the Left's comfort with uncivil behavior. Protest away, but interrupting speeches is just bully behavior. One rarely sees conservatives do this kind of thing, but it is common with liberals. The Dems bring speakers on college campuses and college conservatives rarely disrupt their speeches, but the Left seems to feel that free speech rights excuse rude and uncivil behavior.
I do not understand the Left's comfort with uncivil behavior.
I think I can help. Read Al Qaeda's Fantasy Ideology: "What is common in such interactions is that the fantasist inevitably treats other people merely as props — there is no interest in, or even awareness of, others as having wills or minds of their own."
Chris Johnson at MCJ once made the joke that radical Leftist Episcopalians "can smell a functional TV camera from three states away." It's the same for the hecklers--they are the actors, the rally the stage, and everyone in attendance mere props. The script could have been anything--the war, the environment, Tibet, PETA, it doesn't really matter. Self-absorbed fantasy actors will take any gig.
She's my new hero. Really, she idealizes "feminism". She is the New Feminist. Love her.
While I like her, and I respect that he son's in Iraq, let's not get caught up with sophistries . . . .
The war in Iraq never had nor does it have anything to do with our "rights" and liberty.
Ba'athist Iraq would have been a great ally against the real threat to our way of life: Wahhabism.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, Iraq never had WMD, and Iraq was a secular, even progressive (relative to the region) country.
So no, I cannot say that any of our soldiers in Iraq are protecting our rights. They may be building an empire; they may be staking a strategic claim today so the Chinese or Russians don't in a few years / decades, but no: these troops in that particular place are not doing anything to protect our rights.
"Anonymous" commenting, how typical, sounds like the neo-Bolshevik trolling coward that he is.
I could not make the rally, 2hrs away in car, due to work but I wish I would have been there to engage that filthy member of Obama Nation.
These people are thugs and fascists...Sarah's response was a grandslam.
God Bless Sarah Palin...her speeches in Clearwater, Ft Myers, Jax this morning have all been great!!!
Anonymous conveniently ignores the fact that 500 lbs. of wmds were found in Iraq - but the msm pretended it never happened.
He also ignores the fact that Saddam Hussein permitted Al Qaeda terrorists to practice flying planes in Iraqi airfields.
Calling Hussein's Iraq "progressive" is like calling Hitler's Germany "tolerant".
Nice try, but no cigar.
How am I a neo-Bolshevik for criticizing the war in Iraq?
The war in Iraq was started by real neo-bolsheviks, called "neo-conservatives", who I despise as any paleo-conservative, libertarian, or honest Catholic should.
I agree that the leftists are thugs and fascists. But so are the neo-cons.
Were 500 lbs of WMD found? That's news indeed. Please find me a citation for that.
I said Iraq was "progressive" RELATIVE to the region. I guess to promote your sophistry, you had to ignore that nuance.
And yes it was progressive relative to the region. Whereas in Saudi Arabia women can't drive, Iraqi women could. Christians were tolerated in Iraq, unlike Saudi Arabia and other countries there. Heck, Tariq Aziz was a Catholic!
Since the US invasion, the Catholic church in Iraq has been more than decimated.
Also, there is no evidence that Al Qaeda was endorsed by Sadddam. If there is, I'd like to see a citation.
Rather, Wahabbist Al Qaeda hated secular Baathism more than us. They were sworn enemies.
Anonymous, are you a fan of rape rooms, human shredders, and paying suicide bombers' families bounties when their family member kills people? All happened in Saddam's "progressive" Iraq. You have been brainwashed by what we lovingly refer to as the mainstream media. This crew would have lost us WW II. Tom
http://www.sitnews.us/Columns/
07...oy_murdock.html
From Senator Rick Santorum's mouth:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/
0,2...,200499,00.html
The FOX article contains a link to the declassified report.
Note: I should have said 500 munitions, not pounds.
Anonymous: How does crow taste?
Saddam and al Zawahiri and Yasin:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/co...t/?
id=110006953
Anonymous:
Do you know how to Google?
Anonymous:
And during the 1980's Iraq and Iran were mortal enemies, where Saddam used WMDs against the Iranians.
Funny enough, back during the first Persian Gulf War, suddenly Iran gave Iraq use of their air space and air fields to land his air force planes to keep them from being destroyed by the US.
Those various Muslim factions may hate each other, but when any of them are faced with the infidel, they unite under one jihadist cause.
Uh oh! Atheling, your lunch hour must almost be over! Quick, get in a few more comments before the whistle blows!
Neo-Conservative Catholics. Nothing worse.
Hey Atheling, TJM, etc:
Do you support the USA invading Turkey for gassing the Kurds?
What about invading the low countries for allowing Euthanasia?
Let's go on a big moral crusade the rid the world of all evil!
Here's a grand idea: let's dig a hole to the center of the earth and drop water buckets in there to put out the fires of hell and extinguish the devil while we're at it.
You people crack me up!
Read www.lewrockwell.com and the western confucian for a dose of realism about the world.
The insults and condescension of this particular string of posts are truly lamentable.
Anonymous:
How about answering our questions and admitting that you were wrong?
As for your "western confucian" - shouldn't that be "western confusian"?
For you certainly are a confused person.
Here's a grand idea:
Let's pretend that because we are not able to rid the world of all evil that that means we can't rid it of any evil.
Kinda like saying that because I won't kill every mosquito in the forest, I'm not allowed to swat the ones on my arm.
Ooops, should have said, "confusion"!
Scott W: well said.
Anonymous has proven himself intellecutally dishonest. He cannot refute the evidence, so he resorts to evasion. Very mature.
atheling, I hate to say this, but I do hope you're a troll.
Because if you are really like this in real life, I fear for our church.
Troll?
Is spewing lies and then when proved wrong, resorting to silly irrelevant comments not trollish?
Now go get yourself an ice cream cone and grow up, kid.
I never spewed lies. I was never proven wrong.
Atheling is either a troll or a neo-con ideologue.
The funny thing is, as I stated at the very start, I like Palin.
People like you, however, who refuse nuance, make it harder for her.
There are some people who, under an exterior of piety, take offence at the slightest insult...The way to overcome the Devil when he excites feelings of hatred against those who injure us, is immediately to pray for their conversion.
The Saints were so completely dead to themselves that they cared very little whether others agreed with them or not.
I'm sorry, but it's pretty cynical to say that a women stating her pride in her son for his service is called 'sophistry.'
David, that's not the point I meant when I called her statement "sophistry."
I even said I respect that her son is a soldier in Iraq. It's good to see the politicians who support the war put their kids where their mouths are.
The "sophistry" I referenced was her claim that our soldiers in Iraq are protecting America's liberty.
I would glady agree that our soldiers in Afghanistan, who are hunting down the Wahhabi lunatics who actually attacked the USA on 9/11, are protecting our liberty.
I cannot say that the criminal invasion of Iraq has anything to do with protecting our liberty.
I would be willing to admit that our invasion of Iraq is part of a grand strategy to stake our claim before the Chinese do 30 years from now. But no one (maybe PNAC) is talking along those lines. The country was deluded by lies.
But saying the troops in Iraq specifically are protecting our liberties is a sophistry.
You go, Sarah! Yes!
Anonymous, you are absolutely off base. I guess you forgot that the original Iraq War concluded in a cease-fire and that to hold our fire, Saddam had to comply with all of the cease-fire conditions, which he did not. I understand the French and Germans (rank cowards that they are) became unhappy with us because they wanted to continue to make money off of Iraq all the while the rape rooms and human shredders were at work and Saddam violated the cease-fire conditions and got their boot-lickers at the New York Slimes to buy their malarkey. Yes, our troops in Iraq are protecting our liberty, the liberty of the Iraqi people and the rest of the worlds as well. Tell you what. When Iran bombs Paris or Berlin I will absolutely demand that the US do nothing because, after all, the US was not attacked. But suckers that we are, we will probably help these backstabbers again. By by, Tom
Regardless of the various munitions found and regardless of the many basic human liberties of which the Iraqees were deprived, let's get back to the basics...
The leadership of Iraq, the father and two sons Hussein, brutally obducted, killed, and raped children for amusement.
Are you and I taking for granted how good we have it, here, in America?
Are we not thankful that we need not fear a government kidnapping and raping our daughters?
Are we grateful to our government for not dropping our sons into a bath of hot acid, today?
Anonymous, you and I cannot even fathom the horrors that the Iraqi people faced under the oppression of the Hussein rule.
Should we have sat idle and let their atrocities continue to escalate like decades ago in Germany?
For in bringing Iraq liberation, we also removed a problematic dictatorship. If they raped, tortured and killed children for sport, they certainly would not tolerate free speach or a heckler.
If [heaven-forbid] such evil ever unfolds in America, I pray that another nation would hear our cries and come to our aid.
Tonight, I prayerfully remember all the men and women who protect your constitutional rights, our basic humanastic needs, and my priviledge to enjoy Tom's blog...
I prayerfully
Anonymous,
neo-Bolshevik
Anti-Christian communist.
"The "sophistry" I referenced was her claim that our soldiers in Iraq are protecting America's liberty. "
I completely understand where you're coming from. I just wanted to say that, for Sarah Palin, it is not sophistry to believe her son is defending our freedom.
Indeed, it could be argued that attempting to achieve a just conclusion of the war, just or not, is what we owe the Iraqi people. An unstable Iraq would be deadly for them and dangerous for us, and would encourage those who want to harm us.
Anywho, you make good points.
Thank you, David B., for appreciating the nuances I've tried to bring up. It's good to see at least one honest thinker in this comment section.
Sadly, though, I am greatly disheartened by the neo-conservative "Catholics" I'm reading here, who still support the invasion of Iraq. And especially for the shallow reasons they give.
There is only one justifiable reason for the invasion of Iraq - it was a matter of "grand strategy" to stake a claim in that region before the Chinese or Russians do in the next 20 years. Whether that's right or wrong, it's too early to say. I'm talking realpolitik, raison d'etat, etc.
Sadly, what the rest of you only have to offer is romantic sentimentalism. I pray you never get positions of power. Your historical ignorance doesn't let you see that you are no better than that miserable anti-Catholic Woodrow Wilson.
Anonymous,
I'm not a big fan of liberal out-of-communion Catholics trying to convince me that voting for a ardently pro-abortion/pro-infanticide/pro-gay marriage community organizer. Was the war in Iraq wrong? Probably. It is very likely. Is supporting abortion and infanticide with your vote wrong? Always. And the life of millions (not just tens of thousands) of innocent children takes precedence.
I don't need to defend the Iraq war to vote against Obama (and in that way support McCain). Cease with the false dichotomy that every liberal Catholic keeps vomiting up wherever they are spotted.
Even if Palin is dumb as rocks, she still doesn't represent the complete and total anti-Christian philosophy of Obama bin Biden.
Liberal: "Even though Obama plans to make the killing of innocent children more easily accessible at home as well as internationally, he seems more smarter than Palin. I'll vote for him because I'd rather have an insane smarterest person than a dumb normal person."
Appearance is everything to you folks.
I love how, in pointing out that we shouldn't cheer sophistry, since the war in Iraq is not about our freedom to protest at home, I get lectured by people about abortion and obama.
I said from the get-go that I like Palin.
I've also said I respect that her son is a soldier.
But apparently, with some of the commenters here, any nuance beyond neo-conservative partisanship is verboten.
Your various knee-jerk reactions make me sad. I thought us papists (which I am) were more sophisticated than what I've seen above.
While I will say the discussion has been less than respectful, I didn't think 'Anonymous' endorsed Obama.
Either way, I don't have a dog in this fight. I made my point about Palin, and Anonymous made his/hers.
I like David B.
He gets it.
The rest of you scare me.
Anonymous is probably Katherine.
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