AmericanPapist Comments
I see "Bishop" Geno has a nice sunflower themed mitre.
I wonder if lower down in the picture he's wearing a mini-skirt variety of alb.
When is the Anglican 'church' ever going to realise that all their troubles stem from the theological truth that they are NOT in line with the apostolic Church? The 'archbishop' of canterbury and all the other anglican 'bishops' are NOT bishops at all in line with the apostolic Church as are the Orthodox. This truth, this fact is never commented on not raised for fear that is may scupper dialogue. Bu the truth is that the schisms in the anglican communion over so many issues arise from this truth. The US Robinson episode that an openly gay divorced man can have any credibility as a 'bishop' flies in the face of the Scriptures and the history of the Church. So Lambeth talkfests are all a sham and no wonder the african 'bishops' do not want to attend. At least they take a stand which Rowan Williams cannot as he waffles on and on. A'Beckett would never have done so, nor would any rightful Catholic bishops in that See.
But I guess no one talks about this. The great schism of Henry VIII was to tear the Church asunder, plunder the monasteries and destroy the fabric of the English Church of Augustine.
The Anglican 'Church' is heading for total ruin, unless it discards its women priests and returns to Rome.
But that will probably not occur.
Adam
Another sign that they need to come home to the Church. Hopefully some of them will realize this...
May this lead to many Holy conversions. Or better yet, a miracle.
The disdain for gay men and women here is disgraceful. Never mind that the Roman clergy is replete with closeted homosexuals. The hypocrisy is appalling. While the blogger may "side" with the Nigerian church, there's no doubt that Jesus would not.
Actually, there's no doubt that Jesus would very much love the homosexual person, and very much condemn the harmful homosexual activity. Remember, the Anglican Church itself re-affirmed homosexual acts to be immoral in its last meeting.
Similarly, there is no disdain for homosexual persons here, there is disdain for all acts that contradict human dignity and harm the human person.
If you want hypocrisy, it's affirming people in lifestyles that hurt them. That's not being a true friend to them.
Really?
Point to me one scriptural reference in the Gospels condemning homosexuality. Or better yet, one utterance from the mouth of Jesus. Yet he is quite clear in His rebuke of institutional and religious leaders for laying heavy burdens on the faithful, many times over. In the end it was religion that killed him.
Manual theology redux adds nothing to your argument. Cogent scriptural analysis does. And blind reliance on a corrupted Magisterium is not only anti-intellectual and circular, it is thoroughly un-Catholic and inhumane.
I wonder if the more enlighted Dominicans in your company there share your narrow view. I doubt it.
And what to Anglican community are you referring? In Canada, for example, the Anglican community has committed to the blessing of same-sex unions. You argue there is unanimity on the matter when, in fact, there in none. Hence, the migration of some right of center Anglican communities to the Nigerian hierarchy. The matter remains doctrinally contentious in Anglicanism. You suggestion otherwise is just plain sloppy scholarship. Irresponsible too.
Klieglamp, far be it my place to say this but, shut up.
Jesus loves all of God's Children, good and bad alike. Jesus himself told the apostles that they would be reminded of what Jesus said by the Holy Spirit and we find heavy condemnation of homosexual activity by the apostles, namely Paul.
It was not religion that Jesus was condemning, it was WRONG religious leaders, he condemned the 'blind' pharisees, but He himself spoke privately to Nicodemus a member of the Jewish ruling council. He did not condemn him, only rebuked him for not understanding what Jesus was saying. And again after the ressurrection we find several of the pharisees converted and where still pharisees.
Your arguement is false.
Magisterium is corrupted you say? The Magisterium is not the one being persuaded by zeitgeist of the world. Rebelling against it for the sake of indivualism is. And your shot at the dominicans is as unnessary as it is mean.
The Anglican communion is one, but currently is under threat of schism, which is why there seems to be no unity. Which is why many more conservative Anglicans are converting rather then stay in more liberal parts of the church. And you're accusing AP of sloppy scholarship?
Klieglamp is just expressing his anti-Catholic bigotry.
Notice how he specifically asks for a gospel reference. He can't ask us for reference in the Bible as a whole, as that would lead to a fact he doesn't want to face. But, since Jesus is God, He is the ultimate Author of all of the books of the Bible, as well as of all of the teachings of the Church to which He gave His Authority.
Klieglamp, your assertion "In Canada, for example, the Anglican community has committed to the blessing of same-sex unions" is false. Many wish for this commitment to be given, and several dioceses are determined to go ahead, but the Anglican Church of Canada has not yet taken that step. Resolution A187 was defeated.
Now kindly stop accusing our host of sloppy scholarship.
For up-to-date information on the problems between the various groupings of Anglicans in Canada: http://www.anglicanessentials.ca/
Quite a bit has been happening there lately, including an entire diocese 'joining ' the 'Southern Cone'.
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