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This ministry is very active in our home parish and many many couples have benefited from it.
As participants in the Retrouvaille program, we can only hope that it spreads. It is a real couples to couples ministry, where no perfect solution is found, but where we learn to commit to our marriages, forgive each other, try to change for the better and especially to communicate. In our diocese, many people who are not Catholic also participate.
Empty words.
I have seen adultery encouraged for years by the Catholic Church and the criminal partners welcomed with open arms as they destroy the children of a valid marriage, mock that valid marriage and persecute the abandoned spouse.
Karl, by now the entire Catholic blogosphere is aware of your opinion of the Church and these endless repetitions no longer represent truthing, but rather gratuitous rhetorical urination on anything and everything.
gratuitous rhetorical urination
I'm gonna hafta remember that phrase . . . "GRU" for short?
If the Shoe fits.
Obviously, Scott, you think the Church continuing to encourage mortal sin is less scandalous and less harmful, than one man who seems to take umbrage with it.
It is admirable to kick a person while they are down. You must have have tortured flies and little animals as a child and moved on to bigger things. You brand of Catholicism is wanting, sir.
Jesus came for the sinners, like Karl, not the righteous, like yourself.
Obviously, Scott, you think the Church continuing to encourage mortal sin is less scandalous and less harmful, than one man who seems to take umbrage with it.
I can't prove that this isn't still Karl, so I'll just let that pass and assume it isn't. Whether the Church "continuing to encourage mortal sin" is begging the question. And as far as "taking umbrage", this goes waaaaay beyond umbrage. It is one thing to suggest the shoe fits, and quite another when one has only one shoe and pesters everyone in the blogosphere and forces that shoe in people's faces until they agree to sniff it and agree it stinks and that it is the only stink that matters and unless the Holy Father himself (whom we also must admit stinks) admits it all stinks, then you all stink.
It is admirable to kick a person while they are down. You must have have tortured flies and little animals as a child and moved on to bigger things. You brand of Catholicism is wanting, sir.
Karl's comments did not get personal. Neither did I. I haven't called him any bad names or judged his soul. His method and sweeping attacks on the Church however are fair game. If he had admitted that he had been personally burned by the annulment process, I would be alot more sympathetic. Instead its just a generalized attack with not a hint of fraternal correction in it.
Jesus came for the sinners, like Karl, not the righteous, like yourself.
There is nothing unacceptably righteous about defending the Church against a charge that is at best detraction.
Scott needs to become friendlier.:)
Scott needs to become friendlier.:)
Ok.....done! :)
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