AmericanPapist Comments
I LOVE IT!
Awwwww! The poor anti-Catholic bigots were denied permission to film in Catholic churches! Boo-hoo!
hey Opie, you deserve to be banned.
Well gaaaaaaawleee.
I grow tired of Tom Hanks as well.
I read the books and plan to see both movies. I can see where the Vatican wouldn't allow them to film, but I don't think the books are that bad. I enjoyed them both a lot. I don't have to agree with something or believe something to enjoy it, I guess. They certainly didn't turn me against the Catholic Church.
my favorite line
~He reveals, "We've had problems filming in Catholic Churches. We just weren't allowed anywhere near them."~
Duh!!!!
Awesome! However, get ready- I've not yet read Angels and Demons, but if it's anything like Da Vinci, there will be the typical "the Church is a mass conspiracy" fallout in the MSM.
The liberal left was stung by the overwhelming success of Mel Gibson's Passion of the Christ and therefore intensified the persecution of the Church. The lefties hoped for progressive Pope, God gave them they didn't want to hear. America rest in peace
1776-2008
Thank you! I needed a giggle.
I just like the soundtrack to the first film, could care less about the book. All I ask is that the music to this one be as good.
As A&D dealt with the son of a Pope, how are they going to explain that plot without slandering John Paul or Benedict, answer me that.
While the blatant anti-Catholic bias of Brown's works bother me... what I really detest about them is a) he is an atrocious hack of a writer. My 10 year old has developed more cogent plots than ol' Dan cranks out, and b) even though he claims not to have plagiarised Baigent and Lee... I'm sorry. I've read "Holy Blood, Holy Grail." He borrowed from them quite extensively without giving credit. Even in a work of fiction... that's just not cool
Yet he perseveres. I wonder what his conversation with Christ will be like at the Judgment?
I wonder...why people even talk about this.
Because the whole world has a lot more important business to do - intellectual, physical, and spiritual - than to point and laugh at a bunch of film makers.
guess moveon.org hasn't told Sidonius Apollinaris how to respond yet.
Now if someone came up with a script about Howard's life and added scandals, making him a secret adulterer, hypocrite, and murderer and making everything about his family life disfunctional from incest to physical abuse (this is hypothetical, I know nothing of the man's life), would he allow that person access to his home to film the movie?
I'm sick of Catholics who say I read thought it was as a good story. First, how can you enjoy a book that mocks your Church? Would you enjoy someone spreading rumors about you and then saying, "Well, not everything I said was true," leaving it up to people who don't know you to guess what was true and what was not?
Second, why did you as a Catholic even want to read it in the first place? There is so much great literature. Why drink from polluted streams when you can imbibe pristine water?
Some say, "To know what it's about." OK, but then make sure you read the Catechism to know what it was about, or the actual documents of Vatican II, or a papl encyclical and a reputable history of the Church to know how to actually confute the falsity of anti-Catholic novels?
The book is full of errors!
1) The author had the lead male character using the bathroom in the pope's apartments. Fact: the papal apartments are locked during the sede vacante!
2) The cardinals are kept in total isolation during the conclave, so it would be rather difficult to kidnap four of them!
3) The passageway between the Vatican and the Castel Sant Angelo is blocked off and cannot be used!
4) You need special permission to enter the subcrypt under St. Peter's Basilica!
The best argument against someone who thinks the DaVinci Code or Angels and Demos are based on truth was one given by a priest friend of my brother in law: You will find them in the FICTION section of the bookstore. End of discussion.
Rome treats dissidents and heretics differently than in America.
Here, Dan Brown might be a professor at the university of Detroit or half of the other Jesuit Schools.
Michelle-
you will find a lot of "based on a true story" in the fiction section; putting the little note in front claiming that "All descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals in this novel are accurate" *makes* this something folks need to argue against.
He reveals, "We've had problems filming in Catholic Churches. We just weren't allowed anywhere near them."
Whatever could be the reason Ron?
I think, Ave Maria, that you know neither what goes on in Rome, nor in Jesuit universities.
First, while most Italians identify with Catholicism it is hardly well-practiced. There are of course many whom Amp's readership would consider deviant from Catholic teachings, especially in sexual practices. As in America, there can be strong anti-immigration feelings amongst the populace towards Africans and Albanians; hardly Catholic, I think.
Furthermore, there is a very strong Marxist feeling amongst many Italian intellectuals of the older generation. Italy enjoyed its longest period of post-WWII prosperity under a Marxist party.
And Jesuit universities are bastions of liberal arts education in a world being consumed with 'practical' learning in business, etc. I hardly think that I could ever convince those here of that, so I won't waste anymore time. But Jesuits hardly need be implicated in a silly novel whose import has been blown out of proportion in part because we feel the need to talk about it.
Sure Jesuit universities are excellent places to obtain a liberal arts education. They don't seem to be ones where Catholic teaching is seen as important at all. So good liberal arts school? Sure. Catholic? Not so much.
Speaking from personal experience Sid?
What's it to ya fh?
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