AmericanPapist Comments
Does this mean I can't in good conscience use google anymore?
You need to do a "God v. Satan" post...
I just wrote an email to Joanna, who is listed on their site:
Dear Joanna,
What was the nature of "Obama's Catholic Outreach" event last night at St. Joseph's University: http://www.sju.edu/calendar/2008...008/09/
3808.php?
Didl it discuss the fact that Obama supports abortion, infanticide in some cases, ESCR, cloning, euthanasia, and homosexual marriage, all of which are blatantly against the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church? Did it discuss the fact that any sincere Catholic with an ounce of common sense ought to reject Obama categorically from the word "go"?
I sure hope so. Given that St. Joseph's is a Catholic university after all, I'd consider such an informative stance taken by the university a must, and a duty to its students, faculty and staff.
If not, and if this outreach tried to somehow justify voting for Obama, then whoever is responsible for heading up this event may be in danger of giving scandal to Catholic people of good will, not to mention the malformation of their consciences. It would be a terrible misrepresentation of what the Church teaches now, has always taught and will always teach on these serious matters.
Please advise and thank you for your time,
A concerned on-looker
Will I have to change my homepage to Ask Jeeves lest I be damned?
God damn I love Google! Thumbs up from me!!!
oh yuck...of course Google does this. Practically everything I do is in Google now.
Like you said, so much for not being evil.
I did a google for alternative search engines (yes, I know), and found Goodsearch.com which uses Yahoo but donates some proceeds to the charity of your choice. Anyone have experience with that?
How does it feel to have them power your blog? :-)
There's a reason I use Yahoo. I love my dog, but . . .
What is the Cal.'s Bishop's stand on Prop#8 in Californication?
BOYCOTT GOOGLE? No greater love than this, to lay down your life for your friend Jesus Christ?
Damn, seriously? Not you too, Google! another website I have to boycott? This is getting ridiculous
How does it feel to have them power your blog? :-)
Feels like something like WordPress or Blogsome is going to get some more biz.
"we should not eliminate anyone's fundamental rights...to marry the person they love."
LOL! :-( Pedophiles and bestiality, here we come!
It sounds like someone is a fundamentalist. The irony is amusing.
Well almost everything gives to a Pro-Choice establishment now these days. AS much as I would love to halt on all of them, I sometimes can't. Try to see if the good out ways the evil.
Who was it that you would not advertise, and rightly so? Bill ?Maher,?...so....time to take another stand.
Not everyone in the nation is Christian. And the Bible is not against homosexuality.
If you disagree with EITHER of these statements, please feel free to comment here or email me. :) From a fellow Catholic, God bless.
the gay mafia trying to force their way of life on us.
"And the Bible is not against homosexuality."
Try actually reading the Bible before you post comments that make you look silly.
"Try actually reading the Bible before you post comments that make you look silly."
I have, several times. Are you going to discuss, or just call me names?
Then take a course in reading comprehension. After that, read the Bible again, and you will find that the Bible does condemn homosexual activity.
Answer my question. Do you want to discuss? Because I have researched the subject extensively, and, frankly? You're wrong.
I mean, I just figure you might be interested in learning a little, but hey, it's your immortal soul. Do with it what you will.
maybe it's time to give live.com a try
Frankly, this comes as little surprise. Apparently the Google folks tend to be very left-wing political-wise. Be that as it may, Google can express whatever opinion it wants. What matters is whether money is actually involved...
I find, however, the sudden call for boycotts to be disingenuous given that controversy has already arisen regarding, amongst other things, Google's dealings with China. And if you really want to stop using Google, then you have to stop using all thier subsidiary services as well, such as YouTube and Blogger. And I know that many Catholic blogs continue to use Blogger...
Yes the Bible condemns homoseual activity. Read the about the destruction of Sodom and Gommorrah. The 6th commandment forbids all non-marital genital activity. Read St. Paul...those who commit such deeds will not enter into the Kingdom of God. Read Pope John Paul's Theology of the Body discourses and those who interpret them like Christopher West. We will be the same sex in heaven as here on earth. Marital love can only be expressed with the proper matter, i.e. a man and a woman.There is no way you can say the Bible which is the Church's book, does not condemn impure acts of a homosexual nature.
Sure she can...she just has to violate the 8th Commandment.
I find, however, the sudden call for boycotts to be disingenuous
I haven't called for a boycott. I am however in the process of booting as much Google-related stuff as I can personally--others can do as they wish. I've been on a anti-Google Empire kick anyway and this latest flap just provides more motivation.
given that controversy has already arisen regarding, amongst other things, Google's dealings with China.
I wasn't aware of that, but thanks for the heads up. I'll add that to the Airing of Grievences list for this year's Festivus. :)
And if you really want to stop using Google, then you have to stop using all thier subsidiary services as well, such as YouTube and Blogger. And I know that many Catholic blogs continue to use Blogger...
I'm kicking Blogger and will search for alternatives to YouTube. But I need to point out that as you move to the subsidiary, the material cooperation gets more and more remote. Also, contrary to popular belief, we do get to pick our battles. I don't know how many times I've heard someone say well if you get rid of this, then you must get rid of this, this, and this. T'ain't so.
Maybe you will find my review of some alternatives useful: http://www.andybrandt.net/?p=269
That's cute, bill, but I'm offering to back up my statements, unlike some people. If you're so confident about your views, why do you feel the need to belittle me?
Isn't that a little unChristian of you?
Let's see the categories:
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
Or: Some random internet person.
I'll take the One Holy Apostolic Church for $1000 Alex.
Italics off.
Hey, I'm not pulling anything from the Bible that isn't already there. Anyway, I don't see why there's any harm in, say, hearing me out.
And let's not pretend, Scott; even if I had given you creds, 1) you wouldn't believe them, since this is the internet and I have no way to prove them, and 2) you would probably dismiss me exactly as you are now, for the sole reason that I disagree with you.
And let's not pretend, Scott; even if I had given you creds, 1) you wouldn't believe them, since this is the internet and I have no way to prove them, and 2) you would probably dismiss me exactly as you are now, for the sole reason that I disagree with you
I apologize for the snarkitude. Respectfully however, I'm not interested in anyone's creds. What I am interested in is anyone's authority. The Church has it, 1,000,000 Ph.D's don't.
Felicia, I guess what people are saying is that your personal opinion/view/study on the issue of homosexuality is irrelevant. As Catholics, which you say your are, we give our assent to the teaching of the Church. Now I suppose you can do some pretty serious mental and semantic gymnastics as say the real sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was a "failure in hospitality" but it would just be your opinion. We have definitive teaching on the matter (see the CCC reference above).
"Now I suppose you can do some pretty serious mental and semantic gymnastics"
I can see that ya'll aren't really interested in what I have to say, so I'll leave you alone after this, but I feel I should at least address this comment.
Firstly: it requires very, VERY little research to find that Sodom and Gomorrah being linked to homosexuality is and HAS BEEN the topic of debate for a long time. There are no complicated "mental gymnastics" involved in this. If homosexuality is the primary sin of Sodom, why does Ezekiel refer only to hospitality?
Doesn't require semantic gymnastics, either. The Biblical Hebrew word used for the crowd in Sodom is "anshe," which is used to refer to both MALES and FEMALES. Again, minimum amount of research would tell you this.
Secondly: even if it did require extreme mental or semantic gymnastics to get at the true meaning of the Bible--isn't that worth it? Aren't we supposed to give God our all? Isn't your immortal soul kind of the most important thing you've got; don't you want to /make sure/ you're doing what you should with it?
If you prize this Holy Book so much, why would you want to write it off as solely the province of scholars?
If you prize this Holy Book so much, why would you want to write it off as solely the province of scholars?
The problem is that there is always someone who can interpret Scripture differently. What else is new? Bottom line is that it comes to authority. Anyone can toss up alternatives. Not only is there evidence for the wrongness of homosex in scripture, there is a pile of patristic evidence of it as well.
Again, "Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered"
This isn't an optional belief. It must be affirmed both interiorly and exteriorly by anyone who claims to be Catholic.
Go Google! This surprised me to an extreme amount, because a business (especially one as large and current as Google) will rarely take a public stand like this, at the risk of alienating uses (as demonstrated among these comments).
It shows that Google cares a great deal about this matter, as they should. This is civil liberty. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one.
- Justus
If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one.
This is like saying "Don't like Napoleon? Then don't put on a funny general's hat with your hand in your tunic and pretend to be him."
Justus is what I call a "Cultural Imperialist", trying to force his values on others.
Felicia, I remain unconvinced and unimpressed. Your snide remarks and intellectual haughtiness do nothing to advance your "view." I'll stick with the Church, given to us by Christ himself, who speaks for God. And thank you for your concern for my immortal soul. It is because I so value the destiny of my immortal soul that I adhere to Holy Mother Church.
And finally:
"I can see that ya'll aren't really interested in what I have to say, "
Exactly.
I'm trying to force my values on others? But I'm the one not trying to tell anyone else how to live their lives.
I'm trying to force my values on others? But I'm the one not trying to tell anyone else how to live their lives.
Actually, your buddies defending homosex marriage very much are. By seeking legal recognition for a lie (gay marriage), it is an attempt to force people to affirm the lie along with another lie--that homosex is good. Most people just ignore the guy claiming he is Napoleon. Gay-marriage is like legally forcing everyone to salute the guy and say "Oui, mon Général!"
And here's some evidence. Massachusettes has gone into full "it's legal, so it's moral" mode" and of course started training public school kids that same-sex marriage is good. One parent tried to opt out to no avail.
Video:
http://link.brightcove.com/
servi...ctid=1819819843
Article:
http://www.massresistance.org/do...arker/
main.html
Are you serious? I mean, sheesh, everyone knows that gays are immoral and shouldn't be allowed near our children, let alone to get married! It's this immoral rubbish you liberals spew upon us that has caused the wall street problems! Bad credit, I think not! This is God's way of punishing us for liberals and gays being allowed in this country. You raging liberals must be stopped, and gays should be deported. That way God may bless us so with the solution to our energy crises and show us a path to victory in Iraq. Pray for Sarah!
I have spent the last 24 hours working on leaving Google. I feel we must take a stand, even if it is just a small stand. If you feel gay marriage is wrong and destructive to our society can you really not do the same? Come join me in a google free world.
We had an impact on WalMart a few years ago when they tried some of this same garbage. Boycotts can work. Be brave!
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