AmericanPapist Comments
Burke by a K.O.
YES! God bless Archbishop Burke.
May God grant Archbishop Burke many many more years so he can influence those in the Church in American and the world.
Thank God for the Archbishop, I really wish there were more like him.
I guess there are a lot of fake Catholics (Democrats) who post here that won't be happy with Archbishop Burke. Tom
Bam. Right on the money.
Nice photograph. What is the archbishop signing?
I wonder what the good Archbishop has to say about the Republican party, since he's now offering political commentary?
Thom, classic mistake. He's not offering political commentary. He's giving moral commentary.
WOW!
Great picture!
And this man is only an archbishop? Wait until he becomes a Cardinal!
Talk about "regal"!!!
Give him the cardinal's hat. the stupid lefties will never get it.
Unfortunately, Archbishop Burke was in error when he said that Archbishop Chaput shares his position to "publicly ban Catholic politicians who hold positions contrary to church teaching from receiving Communion." Archbishop Chaput has never said he would *enforce* Canon 915. But, let us pray that he follows Archbishop Burke's example and does so now.
Thom, classic mistake. He's not offering political commentary. He's giving moral commentary.
Not quite.
But even if you're correct, then I'd love to see the Archbishop's "moral commentary" (better?) on the Republican party.
Thom, well when the Republican Party begins putting intrinsic evils into their Party's platform like abortion or stem cell research, I suppose Archbishop Burke will do so. I was a Democratic Party official and left my Party because my Faith is far more important. As Sir Thomas More so elequently stated, "it profits a man not to sell his soul for the whole world, but for Wales?" Tom
I guess that depends on how strict an interpretation one adopts concerning "intrinsic evil." Exploitation of the poor, unjust war, unbridled economic greed, and disregard for ALL life are also intrinsic evils, are they not?
Thom: try searching "catholic bishops" and "immigration" to see how many bishops have criticized republican policy on this issue.
Second: These other evils you mention all presume the victims are already alive. Do you see how abortion is more fundamentally evil because it deprives these persons of life itself, upon which all other rights rest?
The Catholic Church obviously cannot condone any of the evils you mention, it fights against them all, but it must also fight to allow people a chance to live in the first place.
In answer to your question, the abuses you mention involve intrinsic evils, but abortion *is* intrinsically evil.
Well, if you're right, AP, that makes it awfully difficult to justify one's vote for a pro-abort! How unfair!
(Bill pries tongue out of cheek...)
I don't deny that US Bishops have criticized Republican immigration policy. BUT this is the first time, to my knowledge, that a Bishop has taken on an entire party.
Secondly, you said "These other evils you mention all presume the victims are already alive." The babies in question are also already alive. That's the whole point. They are in the same state of "being alive" as people who have already been born. Human life is human life, whether in the womb or outside of it. One is not in a better state of "aliveness" than the other.
I think it's rather desperate to distinguish between "intrinsic evil" and "abuses that involve intrinsic evils" for whatever political point that is trying to be "won."
He's just separating the sheep from the goats. Stand up to your party and change it. You'll be glad you did.
"Exploitation of the poor" is a Democratic Party specialty. Virtually every policy they push, ends up keeping people poor or near poverty. Social Security is Exhibit A. It's a Ponzi scheme which pays virtually a zero return and then when you die, your heirs get nothing! Funny how Teddy Kennedy years ago took off the table putting 5,000,000 federal workers into Social Security. Why? Because the federal retirement program they were in was privately invested and paid 2-3 times what they would have gotten from that wonderful Social Security program. Welfare was another classic example of "keeping the people down" until Clinton was forced to sign Welfare Reform. These programs are demeaning and condescending and deprive people of their true human dignity. Tom
Of course, Thom should provide explicit examples of all these evils. "exploitation of the poor"? Sounds more like the dems who scare poor pro-lifers into voting for them.
David, perhaps the fact that between 2000 and 2004, income taxes for those Americans in the lowest 20% of incomes fell by 1%, while those whose taxable assets were in the top 20% fell by nearly 5%.
Is that explicit enough?
Yes. The top income bracket went from a outrageously confiscatory 39.6% to merely a wildly confiscatory 35%. Meanwhile the lowest bracket already being at sane percentage didn't go down as much. Yeah, really sticking it to the poor.
Considering the lower income brackets are bearing the brunt of our economic calamities over the last decade, I fail to see your callousness.
"our economic calamities over the last decade"? Read a little history of, say, the Great Depression. Then you might come to understand the difference between "economic calamities" and minor downturns in the economy.
Bill, the labelling matters very little when you lose your job or your house.
Pax.
My father grew up in the hills of Kentucky during the Great Depression. Much of the time, the ONLY thing he had to eat was cornbread. Meat was something they ate when he or one of his brothers shot a squirrel or a rabbit. There were winters he couln't go to school because he had no shoes. That's what happens during an "economic calamity".
Bill, I've lived in Appalachia all of my life. I understand the special difficulties that we have here above and beyond what happens to the rest of the country.
I agree. It's a nice picture. I wonder when this picture was taken. When a metropolitan archbishop is transferred to an administrative post like Archbishop Burke and no longer holds the office of metropolitan, is he still entitled to wear the pallium?
Hi Thom. Back to one of your earlier comments, is there anyone running on a platform that proposes "exploitation of the poor, unjust war, unbridled economic greed, and disregard for ALL life?" Because, yes, these all involve intrinsic evil but there IS a party that is actually promoting many intrinsically (always and everywhere and in every time WRONG)evil positions. Abortion, euthanasia, gay marriage, ESCR and cloning.
Now I don't trust Republicans much either, but as I always say to my priest, AT LEAST they aren't publicly declaring that they will fight for the right to kill babies in the womb. The Democratic nominee for the presidency HAS said this. Why is this so hard to agree on?
And I'm fully aware of McCain's duplicitous position on ESCR.
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