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Gravatar On the subject of "Pope's Intro to Cardinal Bertone," it is written:
"Mary's 'fiat,' the word of her heart, changed the history of the world, because it introduced the Savior into this world -- because thanks to this 'yes' God could become man among us and he will remain such forever."

I was curious. All my professors when writing pronouns dealing with Christ or God use the capitalized form--"He, Him, His" etc.--I do as well.

Why does the Vatican these days not capitalize these pronouns as in the above? I find it disrespectful to Christ's divinity. For a while, it seemed the Vatican had started again to capitalize the pronouns, but now it seems to again have shifted towards the lower case.

I don't know very much about this matter and was curious: Who decides these things in the Vatican?


Gravatar Capitalization is a linguistic thing, with American English falling about mid-way between, say, German (capitalize anything that isn't nailed down) and Latin (capitalize as little as possible).

Read the Code, in Latin, and you'll be startled to see, e.g., eucharist never capital, but Bishop or even Ordinary capitlized.

Go figure.


Gravatar At first I thought this difference arose from the differences between Catholics and Evangelicals (I am a convert from the Baptist denomination) but recently I have come to understand from reading Protestant works that this is simply a trend.

As recently as 10 years ago, most people used the capitalized "He" but now, most do not.

In other words: a fashion.


Gravatar StubbleSpark- Yes, I agree; it does seem like a trend. To me, it's a bad Modernist trend, with recycled Arian overtones.

It would great if the Faithful would press the Vatican to start capitalizing in English translations the pronouns referring to Christ and God again.

Edward- Thanks for the explanation. One thing that always surprises me at mass is how the Eucharistic Prayer 1 in our missalette says "catholic Church." It seems this is not in the tradition of American English. Most Catholic books published before the "spirit of Vatican II" capitalized pronouns and sacred terms.


Gravatar Just to show you how things are changing: when I was a kid, if one had, as you did, spelled "mass" with a lowercase "m", one would have gotten a big red X over it from Sister. :)


Gravatar The Sister does make sense! I should have capitalized "Mass." It is probably better to show reverance by capitalizing than using lowercase letters. Liberals have stopped capitalizing "Him, He, His," referring to God, but they still capitalize "I."

It reminds me of what an older Hungarian Catholic professor that I knew in my undergraduate studies told me about why the altar needs to go back to the way it was before the new mass: When the priest faces the congregation, he embraces us but literally turns his back on Christ. It reminds me of the great article by Father Paul Scalia about how narcissitic the abuses of Vatican II are: http://www.adoremus.org/399Scalia.html


Gravatar This is a good website if that does not sound too patronising. However, the following really will sound patronising. In Ireland we have a saying "he/she is away with the fairies" which denotes someone who is disconnected from reality to put it mildly.

The plans of the freemasons are working so well they cannot believe their luck.

Capitalisation of the Holy Name is as instinctual to an old R.C. like me as is blessing myself going past a Catholic church

Jesus Christ is just a man. Not a Man. Not a mangod or a Godman. This is fully intentional and is part of the new world order plan for a universal religion.

The god of the Rabbi Popes is a manmade "jesus christ" This "jesus" is not the Word made flesh.

Away with the fairies? Away with the wolves in sheep's clothing.




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