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I have a feeling the next few years will be a true test for those of us who work to defend life. Maybe it will call all of us who are somewhat complacent about life issues to become more involved and more pro-active?
The results from the survey are interesting:
>> The number-one response was that there are "too many unwanted children in America whose parents can't take care of them."
So our number one problem is our contraceptive mentality which leads to unwanted children. Sounds like those Catholics know their stuff.
>> Second, they said government was too quick to interfere with people's personal lives and private decisions.
That's right, the government has no business spending our tax dollars on parents' private decisions to murder their children.
>> And third, government was not doing enough to provide education and resources to help people make responsible decisions about sexual behavior and pregnancy.
I agree. We need to be teaching Theology of the Body in schools and other public forums. Could we at least start by teaching it in our parishes?!
One of the changes on Obama’s website, which was taken down (haven’t checked to see if it was back up) was making all insurance companies provide for contraceptives. Obama calls it “discrimination.” Therefore an insurance company which see contraceptives as intrinsically evil will be forced, under federal law, to provide support for them.
"54 percent of Catholic voters supported President-elect Barack Obama" ... this is so sad. Not sure what to make of it. But the facts are the facts. I agree with NB, maybe this is a call to action. Not sure who said this, but in this case it applies: Bad things happen when good people do nothing.
Though it is very sad to see so many Catholics supporting this abortionist president, the fact that 54% of our brothers and sisters in the faith seem to be unconcerned about abortion is irrelevant to the evil that abortion is. If 100% of US Catholics believed that abortion is OK, the practice would still be evil. People like our PP friend here always fall back on majority rules as if that has anything at all to do with intrinsic evil.
Fr. Philip, OP
Alexander,
I wonder how that would affect the Knights of Columbus?
Would they drop their insurance program in this case?
Dean,
The Knights focus on Retirement, Disability, and Life insurance. I would think that contraceptives would fall under Health insurance which KofC doesn't provide.
Pax,
Matt
Two contradictory forces may well get triggered on January 20. One, something close to, if not blatant, persecution of the pro-life movement by the Obamaites. Second, real and active public debate of federal money for an organization whose real purpose is the extermination of unborn babies. One of those unfortunate by-products of the economic meltdown- and the begging to go with it. If GM is allowed to go Chapter 11, there may be a few questions about PP's reasons to exist. Like ACORN, it did its best work away from the radar. The screen has now widened. Let Richards and Company persecute us. They will only weaken themselves. And then there's G.E.'s most important demographic trend- the increasing number of baby boomer women reaching menopause. Should be a majority some time before 2012. Some of Richards' ex-customers might experience a bad case of Buyers' Remorse. Sadly.
Gerard E.,
And then there's G.E.'s most important demographic trend- the increasing number of baby boomer women reaching menopause. Should be a majority some time before 2012. Some of Richards' ex-customers might experience a bad case of Buyers' Remorse. Sadly.
The solution to that problem is IVF, which has become so popular that married couples give up after a few months of trying to naturally conceive. I sense a bit of fist shaking at God, "I WANT IT NOW!" or "I'LL HAVE IT WHEN I'M DAMN WELL READY!" (I'm speaking specifically of those who give up trying naturally in less than a year and those women who aborted previous children and are now scrambling to give birth before they turn into a sack of wrinkles and liver spots).
IVF, abortion, and contraception are a triune problem. They are are interconnected and are all intrinsically evil.
Next, I'm aware of no one who can seriously claim that Catholics voted for Obama slightly more than McCain because they preferred Obama's position on abortion to McCain's.
Really? My in-box has quite a few emails from right wing Catholics saying that I and other Catholics who voted for Obama prefer his position on abortion. You need to get your taling points coordinated.
My stomach just soured.
I was really hoping Palin would be the voice for pro-life women in the U.S.
Katherine, if you voted for Obama because you prefer his position on abortion, then you're already perfectly in the position Planned Parenthood wants you in. Congratulations. As you can see, my talking points are coordinated.
From the AFP article: "One woman dies every minute somewhere in the world because of complications during birth..."
Cry me a river... Approximately 80 children die every minute somewhere in the world from abortions (source).
Go away, Katherine. No one is interested in what you have to say. It would probably be a lie anyway.
I noticed they work at preventing "unwanted and teen pregnancies". So "teen" pregnancies are equated wth unwantedness right off the bat. Thanks, PP. I guess I'm unwantable and so are hundreds of cool people I know, since our mothers conceived us before they turned 20.
Of course, statistically, all else being equal, the healthiest time to conceive for the first time is apparently about 20, maybe even 19, so women's and children's health isn't the issue, and women can go to college while pregnant (millions do), so it isn't an issue of education, and adoption and foster care take care of the issue of unreadiness for motherhood, and realizing you killed your son or daughter is much more traumatic than giving her or him to foster parents for a while, so it's not our emotional lives PP wants to spare either. It's not women they care about at all, is it? It sure isn't children. Since they don't like sharing what their real concern is, I have to look at their origins to figure it out. Oh, I see. PP began with some early-20th-Century racial-paranoia trip. Which is probably why minority children are aborted three times as often as white children. I wonder why they don't want to talk about it if they're so sure of their popularity. Why do they continue with these distraction tactics of talking nonsense about women?
Gerard E.: Boomer women are already almost all in menopause. The boom happened from 1946 to 1964. 1964 was 44 years ago. 1946 was 62 years ago. Gen X is the downswing of the following baby bust, from 1964 to 1974, and I'm part of it. We're 34 to 44 now -- some Xers are in the change these days. In 2012, most of us will be. Gen Y was born about '74 to '84, the basin of the bust, the fewest generation, and ought to feel the pain of the death culture acutely. That's the 24-34 demographic. In 4 years they'll be 28-38 and a handful of them will be in menopause. By then the Millennial Generation (upswing) will be about 14-28, and the Echo Boom will be school-age. The MGs will be having babies and the Boomers will be declaring that horrible, since the age of social adulthood is always midway between 18 and the age of the average Boomer. When the average Boomer is 118, social adulthood will be 68, and it will be considered awful and tragic to have kids earlier than that.
Katherine, if you voted for Obama because you prefer his position on abortion, then you're already perfectly in the position Planned Parenthood wants you in.
Learn to read, will you?
This is what she said:-
My in-box has quite a few emails from right wing Catholics saying that I and other Catholics who voted for Obama prefer his position on abortion.
The only reasonable conclusion is that she is saying that that actually isn't the case.
Do you understand? How on earth could you have confused yourself?
CBLF, you try reading. if their charge is correct then ... my point is proven. if their charge is false ... then my point is still proven. geez.
"Really? My in-box has quite a few emails from right wing Catholics saying that I and other Catholics who voted for Obama prefer his position on abortion."
If you didn't vote for him for his position on abortion what was it for?
His position on Homosexual "marriage?"
Human cloning?
Euthanasia?
ESCR?
Or
Higher taxes?
Marxism?
His Muslim faith?
Just what was it?
Oh, man. You STILL don't understand.
It's this simple.
Someone said:-
Next, I'm aware of no one who can seriously claim that Catholics voted for Obama slightly more than McCain because they preferred Obama's position on abortion to McCain's
... to which Katherine replied:-
Really? My in-box has quite a few emails from right wing Catholics saying that I and other Catholics who voted for Obama prefer his position on abortion. You need to get your taling points coordinated.
... obviously meaning that she is saying 1) she DOESN'T, and 2) contesting the view that "I'm aware of no one who can seriously claim that Catholics voted for Obama slightly more than McCain because they preferred Obama's position on abortion to McCain's."
Read it all again until it sinks in.
Now, you might decide that she actually DOES prefer Obama's position, but that's not the point.
How can this not be clear to you?
Thank you, CBLF.
Carbon, thanks for giving Katherine a way out of answering the question. So let's try it again. This time I want to hear from Katherine.
If you didn't vote for him for his position on abortion what was it for?
His position on Homosexual "marriage?"
Human cloning?
Euthanasia?
ESCR?
Or
Higher taxes?
Marxism?
His Muslim faith?
Just what was it?
Carbon, thanks for giving Katherine a way out of answering the question.
You're as free to ask her the question as before.
The thing I was clarifying is that our blogger had got himself confused by not reading properly.
CBLF,
It takes a thief to catch a thief? Is that how the saying goes?
Katherine's Racist Blog.
https://www.blogger.com/
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Check it out folks. Katherine allowed Kurt to post an article about Former Maryland Lt. Governor Richard Steele's possibly running for Chairman of the Republican Party.
Here article is entitled, "Actually, He is a Very Nice Man" which leads only to the mentaly add on she intended--"...even though he is blaaack."
Go read the article. It is actually critical of his pro-choice stance. Strange isn't it as to how hypocritical that liberals can be? They can't see the same problem when it is one of their own.
OK Katherine, let's hear an answer to the question.
If you didn't vote for him for his position on abortion what was it for?
He talks nice and has a big smile? Or maybe it's because he "lives the Beatitudes"? It's the Kool-Aid, no doubt.
One thing we're learning from this situation is that being too sensitive with our language did not help save children's lives. Maybe we saw too late that fanatically PRO-Obama folks needed a SWORD of Truth, and not a Politically Correct manual. Some are waking up from the trance now, and they are actually complaining that they were never "told" they must not vote for a pro-abortion candidate.
Joanne,
You've met a Catholic Obamabot who is waking up to reality? The only ones that I've met that even appear like they are coming out of slumber are blaming everyone else for their decision or are accusing those who voted against Obama of actually wanting more abortions so that we can rub their noses in it. That doesn't sound like someone actually waking up to me. It sounds like someone batting at the annoying mosquito that keeps buzzing around their ear while they are sleeping (called their conscience).
Looking at that photo a thought crossed my mind.
Clearly, Cecile isn't getting any younger. Eternity awaits and it's creeping up on her one foundation covered wrinkle at a time.
Planned Parenthood has alway been virlently anti-Catholic since its foundation in the 1930's. I think Margaret Sanger was a closet Nazi!
Notice folks, as soon as I start asking Katherine to answer those delicate questions she first ignores me and then disappears.
She claims she is a Catholic and votes for Obama yet one of her bloggers said this to which you can see my reply below it.
SHILOH SAID: "You can take everything that is written in the Bible and interpret it "Every which way to Sunday!""
TO WHICH I REPLIED:
"That's informed??? No wonder you never know what you're talking about."
"Here's informed. The Bible belongs to the Catholic Church. The Church interprets the Bible for us. Any interpretation that is not in the light of Church Teaching is in error."
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Now if Katherine is a believing Catholic why in the world would she delete (i.e., censor) my post?
Any guesses?
TO KATHERINE
STOP PRETENDING...YOU ARE NOT CATHOLIC, I HAVE READ ENOUGH OF YOUR SITE TO KNOW IT IS AN ATHEIST/GAY SITE AND HAS NO BELIEFS BUT COMMUNISM. NOW SHE IS OVER HERE PLAYING CATHOLIC.....I ASSURE YOU SHE HATES CATHOLICS WITH ALL THE BILE SHE CAN MUSTER.
ANON, you are exactly right. Every pro-Obama person over there is a homosexual.
Did anyone else notice how this thread was getting ugly? I'm guessing that's probably why Katherine hasn't responded to your query, Rustler...
Bink,
Yeah, she definitely doesn't like ugliness.
Ugly is the ONLY thing she DOES understand.
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