AmericanPapist Comments
Yes!!!
The hand that rocks the cradle can also rock the boat. God is soooooo good all the time.
Awesome!
I've got a quick biographical sketch on Palin posted at www.BrianMcDaniel.org
I must say, as a Pro-Life Catholic, I'm thrilled at this choice.
But I worry that she is a bit inexperienced to handle Biden when it comes to debate.
http://www.sba-list.org/site/app...8123&
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I've never been this excited about a vice-presidential pick. I may actually put a bumper sticker on my car because of this.
Jenny, nobody votes on the VP debate. Dan Quayle was eaten alive, but Bush still won. Palin might surprise too. She seems smart, which could make up for a lot.
A "hockey mom" that just makes her cooler. I'm so excited I can't even think of words to put it into. Catholic.org had a story on her too, but I can't find the link.
Awesome! A strong, independent minded reformer, and a good pro-life pick. Glad to see McCain didn't make a conventional choice. Also glad that we in Louisiana get to keep Jindal for a while - looks like he's going to get a chance to prove his stuff in the next week or two, with Gustav on the way.
Anyone one else worried that her utter lack of experience will hurt McCain in the election? He's is an older gentleman, and she would be next in line for the Presidency should something happen to him. Everyone's going to be asking if she is ready to be President. I'm afraid the answer will be a resounding no, but we shall see.
On the other hand, as a pro-lifer, I'm ecstatic about the choice!
While her lack of experience may be an issue, I am thrilled with McCain's choice. I have gone from just wanting this election to be over to actually wanting to follow it with interest!
Here's the link from Catholic.org I was talking about. http://www.catholic.org/national...ry.php?
id=27797 It's about how she lives her pro-life commitment.
I know I was young aka in grammar school when it was Bush/Quayle but had anyone known of Quayle before he was picked. I was in 3rd grade I think, so I really wasn't following politics yet. ;)
Who's the VP pick for Obama again?? I'm getting my t-shirt, my bumper sticker - whooo hooo!
No, I am not worried about her lack of experience. VP picks are tricky like that. Biden only emphasizes Obama's lack of experience.
The good gov. emphasizes an era of - change - good grief that word - for the GOP. You can't think that "McCain is only a yes man to Bush" is going to stick so well anymore.
Really - I forgot for almost 30 seconds who the VP pick for Obama was when I heard this news!
Thank you AmP!
Jennifer
The last thing the Obama campaign wants to talk about is lack of experience.
From the experience side of things, this seems like an extremely shrude pick. Given that Obama was only in the Senate for 7 years the Dems will only shoot themselves in the foot if they say, "WTF!? She's only been a governor for 2 years??"
This def makes things VERY interesting.
She's a hockey mom??? EXTRA POINTS with me :D
This is cool. Good move by McCain to get the press off of the DNC.
Let the games begin... I too think she's a strong pick and McCain did good for the ticket. She looks like she's an exciting choice, a staunch pro-lifer. Excellent! Will give the Democrats a run for their money. Can't wait to get home from work later so I can find out more about her on the internet.
Now this election has become very interesting.
Democrat Party, Obama/Biden - pro-death for the unborn.
Republican Party, McCain/Palin - pro-life for the unborn.
"Catholics" who vote for the Democratic ticket are not Catholic. End of discussion. I don't want to hear anymore mental gymnastics or apologetics or crafty evasions as to why they can still "in conscience" vote for the Democratic Presidential ticket.
Tom
ps: Palin has more executive experience than McCain, Obama, and Biden combined.
McCain just brought millions of voters back into the race, millions who could have sat it out.
Feminists for Life. Wow.
Wish I could have found some action on that 40-1 line Todd Aglialoro was laying yesterday.
Bet Obama's thinking he should've picked Hillary as his running mate about now....
I am looking forward to seeing her face off with Biden in the debates. Biden and O'bama have been beating the "same old same old" drum. Can't do it anymore, because she ain't same old.
And I guarantee no one will talk about lack of experience.
I note where Anderson Cooper has already questioned, "how could she possibly balance the work of being a mom and a VP?" Can't ask a Dem that question because it implies a woman can't have it all and do it all...
Ok, the more I learn about her, the more excited I get. I agree with several commentators in this combox about her experience. I was concerned about it, but it's a good point that an Obama ticket pointing to lack of experience will fall completely flat.
I just saw her introduction on Fox News, and she is tough. The VP debate with Joe Biden out to be a big ticket event. You can also tell she's fiercely independent and not used to being a #2. She'll have to grow into that role in the coming days.
And remember Obama's big theme in the Democratic primaries was that he was going to "clean up Washington", and he's not "an insider", and it won't be "politics as usual" if he is elected. In other words, "I'm a maverick". With this pick of Palin as VP, I don't think the Obama ticket will be able to successfully run on that theme. The McCain ticket will own the "maverick" title in a landslide.
In short, the McCain camp has taken the rug from underneath Obama's consistent message of "Change". This VP nomination may prove to be a brilliant chess move on the part of McCain.
This will be fun!
I've never been this excited about a vice-presidential pick. I may actually put a bumper sticker on my car because of this.
...and...
McCain just brought millions of voters back into the race, millions who could have sat it out.
Amen to both these comments! This is the first time in months that I have been excited about the presidential race!
Finally somebody to be excited about voting for on the '08 ticket! Go Palin!
Mary --
Quayle was not a total unknown.
He was first elected to the U.S. Senate as part of the Reagan 1980 landslide, defeating Sen. Birch Bayh (Evan Bayh's father), and was re-elected in 1986. By the time he was named to the ticket in 1988, he had been in the U.S. House for four years and the Senate for almost eight.
So Quayle was a bit of a celebrity among conservatives and generally regarded as a solid, if not superstar Senator.
But he was not widely known to the public, and he had a habit of stumbling over words that he never really shook.
He also sometimes wore a "deer in the headlights" expression that seemed to confirm concerns that he might be a lightweight.
All-in-all, Quayle's selection was not a smart one, but it probably didn't have much impact on the 1988 vote.
I love her! She's INSPIRING! Fantastic choice, McCain!
Calling her "inexperienced" by the Obama camp is laughable. It will fly right back at them.
At least Gov. Palin has executive experience as a mayor of a city and governor of a state. In that capacity, she can't just say "Present" when a piece of legislation comes across her desk.
As far as the debate goes, she is bright, articulate, and will make Joe Biden look like a mean spirited old man if he goes into attack dog mode. It won't look pretty.
I think my vote this year just went from voting against someone to voting for someone.
Thanks for the continued good work, Tom.
AP, you have her down as a Protestant, but I just read in an opinion by Ed Rollins on cnn.com that she's Catholic. Anyone know for sure?
Plus, folks, by giving conservatives a reason to show up in November, this all puts a new spin on many local races that Democrats, as of yesterday, assumed they would win practically by default.
Wikipedia reports, almost certainly correctly, that she's a Protestant. The article definitely reflects a Palin insider perspective, so is highly unlikely to be inaccurate.
Which is fine w/me. Pro-life Protestant beats pro-death Catholic all the way around the block and back.
You can't call her pro-life when she's in favor of the death penalty. Once again, Catholics will have to go for the lesser of two evils in this election.
Fox News said she keeps her faith private, so finding out if she's Protestant or Catholic may be difficult. Although, I'm sure it will come out as she is put under the spotlight in the next week.
The AmP is not the only place that I've heard she's Protestant. It wouldn't surprise me if CNN just assumed she was Catholic because of her 5 children. I saw ABC News was almost aghast that she had five children. That's like over double the 2.1 we're allotted :)
McCain's choice of Sarah Palin shows his maverick genius. In one stroke, he woke up the pro-life conservatives, carved out a new majority among suburban women, solidified his hold on the blue states, and probably gained majorities in the so-called swing states like Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Colorado. He also corralled a lot of feminists who are disillusioned with the way Hillary was robbed in the Democratic primaries. In short, she's the miracle a lot of religious conservatives have been praying for.
What a contrast with Obama's event the night before -- which looked like a Hollywood version of the Second Coming. The Dayton event -- right down to their hokey hand-lettered "Ohio for McCain" signs -- were far more authentic and believable. Wake up, Democrats. We know the difference between whole wheat bread and made-in-Hollywood twinkies.
Palin is a non denominational Protestant.
Being pro capital punishment does not mitigate being against abortion.
Even the Cathechism states that a Catholic can support capital punishment.
Jenny Z.
Not to worry. Palin will handle Biden just fine. Biden is an arrogant windbag who uses a a variant of charm to bully opponents. It won't work on Palin. Just watch.
rjr,
I oppose the death penalty and am disappointed that Palin does not. That said, I do think that one can be fairly characterized as pro-life even if one favors the death penalty under properly prescribed circumstances.
rjr, please go back and read the Catholic (not Democratic) Catechism again. Abortion is intrinsically evil and NEVER justified, but the death penalty is sometimes justified. So once again you have been sucked into the false choice of the lesser of the two evils. I guess a 3 month child in the womb has no better standing in your world than a hardened axe killer who just wasted a bunch of innocent people. Stop drinking the Democratic kool-aid. Tom
Oh, heaven help us!
Just when you think you've finally pulled ahead in the battle against abortion, out come the whiners with their "I'd rather have a candidate soft on abortion than one who is pro-death penalty and pro-war."
If that's your personal belief, so be it. However, that is not Church teaching.
Write this on the back of your hand, so you don't forget it: THE CHURCH TEACHES THAT ABORTION IS ALWAYS WRONG; NO SO WITH WAR OR THE DEATH PENALTY.
A Feminist for Life for VP?
Yipppeeee!
(I'm also happy because I'm a former Alaska resident myself)
McCain just secured my vote.
Yeah, this actually makes me thrilled to get back into the voting field. I too was about dreading this election. Something to look forward to.
CNA article is excellent!
Sarah Palin is going to clean Biden's clock in the V.P. debates. The reason is quite simple - Joe Biden spews words, endless streams of words, words, words. His mouth needs Immodium at times! But the connect of mouth-to-brain is tenuous at best.
Sarah Palin on the other hand is a good public speaker, quick witted, thinks on her feet and has a wide ranging and comprehensive intelligence.
She is a no-nonsense woman with solid values.
"I note where Anderson Cooper has already questioned, "how could she possibly balance the work of being a mom and a VP?" Can't ask a Dem that question because it implies a woman can't have it all and do it all."
He has a point, though. Look how much trouble Nancy Pelosi is having, trying to be a mom of five AND Speaker of the House. It's not workin' out well for her these days. I hear she's havin' trouble with her church, too! (Ahem)
*glee*
And here's a thought... if this works... Palin/Jindal could be in the cards.
Anderson Cooper, another left-wing media lightweight who probably doesn't realize his stupid comment just attacked the underpinnings of liberal feminism. I suppose feminist groups tonight will be screaming for his dismissal. Otherwise, they'll expose themselves for the partisan hypocrites that they truly are. Tom
Wow! I am amazed that orthodox Catholics like so many of you, above, would have this reaction to Sarah Palin. Under other circumstances, a woman like her would be an outstanding choice. But under current circumstances, she is a terribly wrong choice! Why? Because she should be a stay-at-home Mom, taking care of her five kids -- especially the handicapped newborn.
Good heavens! How could any sane, informed Catholics approve of MRS. Palin taking on a 16-hour-per-day job -- even FURTHER depriving her husband and family of her time and attention than she already (improperly) does as a governor?
I was born in 1951. During the '50s and '60s, almost all Catholics (including all priests and bishops) would have SCREAMED against the idea of a mom of five being a governor, never mind a vice president! They would have done it not because she was a woman, but because of her duties as a MOTHER!
The fact that decent folks like so many of you are showing no sign of objecting just goes to show how much radical feminism has damaged society. It does not even cross your (young) minds that Mrs. Palin should be at home, because you have been exposed to so many years of moms unnecessarily working! Mrs. Palin has a husband who has a good job! She doesn't need to work away from home!
Please pray about this and then revise your positions, fellow Catholics.
NO woman with pre-adolescent children who doesn't NEED to work outside the home should be doing so. I am certain that God disapproves of what Sarah Palin is doing. I feel so terribly sorry for her husband and kids.
I am certain that God disapproves of what Sarah Palin is doing.
Please don't pretend to know what I think.
Her husband is a stay-at-home-dad.
Besides, it's not like she won't see her kids as a VP. The VP house is very close to the White House, and she'd be doing great good for the country.
Also, I find it silly that you're so pretentious as to say that God would disapprove....
Wait, Catholics don't like women with kids being outside of the home now?
Where's that in the Catechism?
Probably right next to the "Dungeons and Dragons isn't morally licit....."
With regards to being a working mother of an infant, please remember St. Gianna.
In canonizing Gianna Beretta Molla spring of 2004, the Church officially recognized the extraordinary sanctity of a woman who chose to live an ordinary life-as a professional and, later, as a wife and mother.
Gianna Beretta Molla is the first married laywoman to be declared a saint (though there are many sainted widows). She is also the first canonized woman physician–a professional woman who was also a "working mom" four decades ago, when this was extremely unusual.
After her marriage and even after she had children Gianna continued her medical practice, extending her gifts beyond her immediate family to the children of others, three children, a son and two daughters, were born between 1956 and 1959, and Gianna had two miscarriages before conceiving another baby in 1961. She devoted herself to caring for her patients, and her selflessness and dedication as a physician endeared her to the people. Her husband did not object to Gianna's continuing her medical practice after becoming a mother because she was so deeply attached to her patients.
So, do not lead people astray by claiming to know more about God's will than the Church and stating God disapproves of working mothers, when the Church has canonized one.
Saint Gianna, pray for us.
From Alaska! Sarah was a speaker at our annual pro-life dinner last year and not only spoke for life, she spoke passionately.
I heard a lady from Obama's camp say that Sarah was on the wrong side of women's issues. WHAT! Did they discount that the majority of women are against abortion...including our next Vice President.
Beautifully said, Cindy.
Ironic that the proabortion/proinfanticide party are concerned about this prolifers children.
psst -- for all you innocents out there, VPILF is an obscene, i.e. sexual, acronym. Hardly something appropriate here.
Psst, Bender... you're the first person to mention that acronym.
Here, anyway.
It should be noted that Palin is not "non-denominational" but Assemblies of God -- the largest Pentecostal denomination in America. It should also be noted, however, that most AoG churches are minimal when it comes to the "gifts of the Holy Spirit" like speaking in tongues or prophecy -- they may have occasions of this but rarely . Many AoG's are not any different from your average Southern Baptist or non-denominational evangelical church.
The Palin Choice.
Normally I would judge a VP selection in large measure on whether the nominee would help the ticket win in November.
In Gov. Palin's case, however, it occurs to me that her personal story is a great inspiration to all who acknowledge the sanctity of human life.
Whatever the outcome in November, if Sen. McCain's selection of Gov. Palin inspires just one woman to choose life over abortion . . . then the nomination of Gov. Palin will have been a thundering success.
May God bless Gov. Palin and her family, and protect them from harm in the turbulent days that lie ahead for them.
For us older folks (I'm almost 57), it is very, very sad to see what is going on here. Not only have minds been perverted by radical feminism, but young people cannot even humbly admit when they are wrong -- and LEARN. If they say something wrong (as so many here have said), and if then someone (such as myself) comes along and explains the wrongness, the mistaken people nevertheless try to defend their errors, instead of saying, "I'm sorry. I was wrong. You are right." With this attitude, society is doomed. It's no wonder the world of Catholicism is rampant with dissent, schism, and heresy. Even those who think that they are orthodox try to defend bad ideas.
I will specifically address Jenny and Cindy, who tried to oppose me, but failed. They didn't do their research or think things through enough. Jumping to rash conclusions is characteristic of the young. It is a failing that Jenny and Cindy need to overcome.
Jenny writes of Sarah Palin, "Her husband is a stay-at-home dad."
But Jenny fails to find out that Todd Palin became a stay-at-home dad by giving up a $100,000-per-year job -- to allow his wife (a mother with young kids) to pursue UNNECESSARY work. The sad thing is that, due to radical feminist influences, Jenny doesn't realize that Sarah should have been a stay-at-home mom, because her husband was capable of supporting the family!
Jenny then writes, "Besides, it's not like she won't see her kids as a VP."
When did I say that "she won't see her kids"? This is the fallacy known as a "straw man," an ultra-liberal debating technique that is unworthy of orthodox Catholics.
Jenny then writes, "The VP house is very close to the White House".
Having lived in the suburbs of Washington, I know that this is not accurate, because Jenny's words would fool readers into believing that Sarah could walk home to be with her kids. In fact, the two mansions are a ten-minute drive apart. Moreover, as I stated (but Jenny ignored), Sarah will be putting in 16-hour work days and sometimes flying all around the nation, COMPLETELY separating herself from the kids for days at a time. This is lunacy, from the truly orthodox Catholic point of view.
Jenny then writes, "... and she'd be doing great good for the country."
But Jenny fails to realize that Sarah would be doing far MORE good for the country by taking care of her kids! The work that she will be doing could be done as well as, or better, by a man or by a woman who has no small children to raise. That is what Jenny should have realized. But instead of thinking things through, she has a kneejerk, liberal reaction.
Jenny concludes, "I find it silly that you're so pretentious as to say that God would disapprove."
It is not in the least bit "silly." It is no more "silly" than for me to say that God disapproves of the use of contraception, even though it is accepted by radical feminists nowadays. When the Church has taught something for almos
(Concluding the above, truncated post ...)
It is not in the least bit "silly." It is no more "silly" than for me to say that God disapproves of the use of contraception, even though it is accepted by radical feminists nowadays. When the Church has taught something for almost 2,000 years -- e.g., the need for a mother's care of her kids, whenever possible -- it is not "silly" for me to relay that teaching. It is not in the least bit "pretentious."
Now, I must turn to what Cindy said, regarding St. Gianna Molla ...
I want to start with words from her concluding paragraph: "... do not lead people astray by claiming to know more about God's will than the Church and stating God disapproves of working mothers ..."
Did anyone notice? This is ANOTHER "straw man" -- in fact TWO "straw men" -- because I did not claim either thing that is mentioned.
I did not "stat[e that] God disapproves of working mothers."
To the contrary! I stated that mothers should avoid UNNECESSARY work, outside the home, while still raising pre-adolescent children. I stated these things SPECIFICALLY, but Cindy ignored them, in kneejerk liberal fashion! How sad!
And I did not "claim to know more about God's will than the Church." Instead, I applied the situation of Sarah Palin to the Church's teaching about mothers and their duties.
Cindy also failed to realize that the Palin and Molla situations were extremely different. Here's how:
(1) St. Gianna had been a pediatrician for almost ten years BEFORE she got married and had kids. Sarah got involved in politics AFTER she got married and had given birth to a child.
(2) St. Gianna's work was NECESSARY. Her healing work was needed where she lived, even after she got married. Sarah's work was not, and is not, necessary, so it could not and cannot be justified.
(3) St. Gianna's work was done extremely near to, and with easy access to, her family -- and for normal working hours, without making long trips out of town. Sarah's work will be done without easy access to her family, for very long hours, and involving long trips out of town.
Cindy wrote (or quoted): "Her husband did not object to Gianna's continuing her medical practice after becoming a mother because she was so deeply attached to her patients."
But Cindy failed to mention this (from the words of Helen Hitchcock): "... after she became pregnant with their fourth child, Pietro and Gianna had agreed that she would stop working outside the home after the baby was born." I am sure that, by that time, they had realized that the children needed for her to be at home with them!!!
Case closed!
Please, young people, have the guts to admit when you are wrong. Try to realize that what is new and seems exciting (such as mothers working, gaining high office, and the like) is not necessarily good.
Please pardon me. I realized that I had forgotten to mention another couple of things that Cindy wrote.
(1) "Gianna Beretta Molla is the first married laywoman to be declared a saint (though there are many sainted widows)."
These words of Cindy don't make sense, for every one of those widows was also a "married laywoman." If Cindy means that St. Gianna was the first married woman saint whose husband outlived her, that may or may not be true, but it is irrelevant anyway.
Moreover, one need not prefix the word, "woman," with "lay-". Why not? Because EVERY woman is a "laywoman" -- married ones, single ones, and even consecrated/religious women -- because there are only two states in life (laity and clergy).
(2) "She is also the first canonized woman physician – a professional woman who was also a 'working mom' four decades ago, when this was extremely unusual."
Cindy didn't even stop to realize that she was making my point!!! Four decades ago, when I was a boy, a contemporary with St. Gianna, it was indeed EXTREMELY UNUSUAL -- as it had been for 2,000 years of Christianity ... and ought to remain today!!!
Perhaps you could back up something that you posted by citing some authority? Perhaps you could also "specifically address" the post right after your first one?
AnUnSi,
I understand your wish to defend certain vestiges of Catholic culture as well as the bond between a mother and her children, but you should know that you're registering around a perfect 10 on the condescendometer.
First off, your entire premise is based off the fact that you think Palin is neglecting her duties as a mother by not being at home. To defend your cause, you cite or reference: nothing. Just some hand-waving about 2000 years of mothers caring for their children. I agree that the Church does state that mothers should care for their children, but you've yet to adequately demonstrate that Sarah Palin neglects her children, or does/can not provide care for them in a means that her husband can't fulfill.
Short of knowing her personally, I don't see how you can fill this gap. Perhaps this is why you turn to the part of your rhetoric I find most offensive: Unapologetically claiming to know the inscrutable will of Almighty God. Let's have a look at what you actually said:
"And I did not "claim to know more about God's will than the Church."
Liar. You prophesy for us right here:
"I am certain that God disapproves of what Sarah Palin is doing."
And then, you go on to attempt to rationalize your divine revelation by stating that it's equal in weight with the Magisterium. Ok, so cite us the Catechism reference, Encyclical or Canon that definitively states "Sarah Palin cannot possibly be called to serve as Vice President or Governor of Alaska. She also should remain home, as it's the ONLY way to adequately bond with her children." Good luck, it doesn't exist. Without knowing her family dynamic personally, I'd refrain from pontificating further.
Aside from that, you really have no case to close.
In any event, you seem to brand all of us who support Palin as "young, liberal knee-jerking Catholics". Might I suggest you abandon that tactic as well, as it would be equally wrong for us to try and paint you as a "senile, cane-brandishing Catholic fossil"? Age-ism isn't pretty or fair. We "youngin's" can admit we're wrong just fine, only in this case... we're not wrong.
Thanks, and God Bless
You go girl!
AnUnSi,
Site your sources. If being a working mom is as against what the Church teaches as to be sinful as you're implying that it is, by all means, give us some Catechism paragraphs. School us young-ins, who obviously have no idea what we're talking about.
the democrats will probably attack her on her views on creationism. i predict lots of energy in trying to scare people that voting for palin will mean voting a nutcase into the office.
Heavens, if a woman can provide for her children's needs: spiritual,emotional, and physical and God has given her the talent, money and family support to do this while also serving her country , more power to her. God is the giver of all good things. These oppressive views shared by that 57 yr.old are only valid if the children's needs are not being met. Clearly, Mrs.Palin is being gifted and graced by God to serve a very necessary job and she is an extraordinary role model for ALL. Rememer, at one time women were not even allowed to vote. God, lover of women and children, gifts each of us in different ways. Are all teachers, are all prophets, are all administrators, are all gifted the same? This is where the gift of discernment is needed.
A WOMAN? No thank you. Too radical for my tastes.
brassband, as I said I was in 3rd grade at the time, so I wasn't following politics, I do remember some of his slip-ups on words. Thanks for the info.
rjr, the Catechism states (and I cut and pasted from www.scborromeo.org)
CCC #2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.
If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and are more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.
Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically non-existent."
The death penalty is to be used as a last resort and whether people want to admit it or not, the death penalty usually involves a guilty person. Abortion always always involves an innocent person, and is always evil.
AnUnSi, I understand that a mother should be at home, and yes that is the optimal situation, but at least Mr. Palin is at home with the kids. Also, as a young Catholic (28) I prefer to be acknowledged for voting pro-life and with the teachings of the Church vs. being lumped into some category where I'm apparently wrong for thinking this nomination is a good thing for our country.
I love this pick! McCain/Palin is arguable the most pro-life ticket the GOP has ever fielded.
What a relief!
Dear AnUnSi,
Sarah Palin has been given a gift--a chance at the vice presidency of the United States--that very, very few people will ever get. While I agree that it would have been noble of her to turn down the honor due to family concerns, I don't fault her one bit for taking it!
Had she not accepted, it's not unlikely that the Republican party would have ended up with a crypto-liberal former Massachusetts governor with a pro-abortion history as the VP. This would have been a potential disaster for the country and for the unborn.
I don't fault Sarah Palin one bit for accepting this honor. I think she's doing something very noble for the greater good of all of us. I pray that she is able to balance her family responsibilities with those of her new position. I would encourage you to do likewise, rather than criticize her.
She's going to need all the prayers she can get!
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If nothing else, difficult times call for difficult measures. Ideally, dad should come home every nite after work. In times of war, he has to leave for months. SP looked around one day, and saw no else stepping up to answer local needs. So she did. God bless her.
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I think Sara Palin is an excellent choice. What a shot in the arm for the pro-life movement. She doesn't just talk a good game she actually practices what she preaches. God bless her!
I am actually more excited about the Palin pick than I am about McCain. I disagree with McCain on a _lot_ of issues, but Palin seems (from the little I know) to track my beliefs darn near perfectly.
In some ways I'm hoping McCain wins so that I can vote for Palin for president in 8 (or even 4!) years . . .
I just read in a Time magazine interview with Palin that she was baptized Catholic, but her parents started going to non-denominational churches.
So a chuckle today.
Normally, I don't waste my time with solicitors, but it was a nice day outside and I had some free time, so I answered the door.
The woman in her twenties was telling me about McCain. So she attempted to string together a few sentenceswith the extremely weak cases that:
(1) McCain picked a VP with no experience. [Umm a freshman senator is experienced?]
(2) Palin "is like 100% prolife!" [to which I responded "God forbid we save a few babies!" [Did she not see the BVM statue on the lawn?]
(3) I mentioned I want a candidate with fiscal intelligence that supports my economic beliefs and holds certain social positions. She told me, "That's like totally selfish. Cant you see the bigger picture?"
I told her I've heard a lot better arguments than hers and she should go back to work on her pitch.
Then she noticed my McCain lawn sign.
"Are you going to put that out?" "Well I couldnt decide between that one, one that says NOBAMA, or one that says "O"verrated.
She told me she might come back and take it. Clever! I promised to take atleast twenty of theirs.
Then she asked me to volunteer for Obama! Umm.....?!
So, she went to mark something on her little clipboard and goes "I can't like even find your name."
There, I ended the discussion.
"You can't find my name on a clipboard and you want to tell me who to vote for?"
To all those who are saying it's NOT a problem for Sarah Palin to take on the second-most powerful job in the U.S. while caring for a five-month old child who has special needs ...
... would you say the same thing if she were on the Democratic ticket?? Or would you be criticizing her for putting her career before her family?
Just a thought.
Women should stay home and take care of the kids. They don't belong in government. It's a man's job.
Abigail,
My personal choice would be to stay home with my child. BUT I know a lot of women who do this successfully. I would NOT criticise a female democrat who was running for office and has young children.
WS,
You are not serious are you??
Women do lots of things within the realm of wife/mother/community/citizen,etc. etc. In spite of what some think they ALWAYS have. This is nothing new. My mother was a full-time, stay at home mom. She, also, helped out at church, neighbors and so on. I stayed home until my youngest was in 1st grade. I, too, was busy helping out with school, scouting, etc. Women have always WORKED HARD no matter what their situation...in and out of the home. I can't believe we are being asked these questions in this day and age.
Not only have minds been perverted by radical feminism, but young people cannot even humbly admit when they are wrong -- and LEARN.
Ri-iight. I'm no "whipper-snapper," but I can smell a nutter a mile away...the kind that gives homeschoolers and more traditional types a very bad name. With that kind of nonsensical and condescending language I think there's a spot for you as a "foil" writer in the Kos or the HuffPo.
Please, this is what we call good Political Science! Oh Obama, I bet you wish you could pick a diffrent VP Now!
Jake, that's like such a totally great story. I'm like, whoa, there it is, absolutely.
On Friday, my blog experienced an overload; I was practically the only blogger who had written about Sarah Palin before Friday.
You see, we have something in common; we are both mothering uncommon children. I considered her a role model back in April when she accepted his disability with so much grace and faith. My daughter has Down syndrome too.
Her inspiring YouTube video with her son with Down syndrome in her arms is not to be missed. This woman is a gift to politics and a sign that our prayers for this election are seeing results. I'd love to see her as president one day.
Listen to the words of John Paul II (from the Letter to Women, written in June 1995):
“Thank you, women who work! You are present and active in every area of life—social, economic, cultural, artistic AND POLITICAL (emphasis mine). In this way you make an indispensable contribution to the growth of a culture which unites reason and feeling, to a model of life ever open to the sense of “mystery,” to the establishment of economic and political structures ever more worthy of humanity. . . . Thank you, every woman, for the simple fact of being a woman! Through the insight which is so much a part of your womanhood you enrich the world’s understanding and help to make human relations more honest and authentic.”
“Women’s dignity has often been unacknowledged and their prerogatives misrepresented; they have often been relegated to the margins of society and even reduced to servitude. This has prevented women from truly being themselves and it has resulted in a spiritual impoverishment of humanity.”
“Women will increasingly play a part in the solution of the serious problems of the future: leisure time, the quality of life, migration, social services, euthanasia, drugs, health care, the ecology, etc. In all these areas a greater presence of women in society will prove most valuable, for it will help to manifest the contradictions present when society is organized solely according to the criteria of efficiency and productivity, and it will force systems to be redesigned in a way which favors the processes of humanization which mark the “civilization of love.”
“It is thus my hope, dear sisters, that you will reflect carefully on what it means to speak of the “genius of women,” not only in order to be able to see in this phrase a specific part of God’s plan which needs to be accepted and appreciated, but also in order to let this genius be more fully expressed in the life of society as a whole, as well as the life of the Church.”
Read the whole thing here:
http://www.vatican.va/
holy_fathe...5_women_en.html
What more can be said?
Abigial, it's matters not what party she comes from but what her views on certain issues are. We all have free will, Mrs. Palin has chosen what she wants to do. She saw something that she wanted to change and went about it.
God help us in this election if people won't vote for her simply because they think she should be home with her kids. Ideally, yes a mother should be home with her children, but we all know that that is not always possible. Vote on the issues not personality traits or what you think the person should be doing.
There is something wonderfully healing about this VP pick for me. I never thought it mattered to have a woman nominated but the moment I heard I burst into to tears. I was so surprised and shocked and yes it does matter...it matter only because she is Pro-Life...none of the ladies mattered to me because they were pro-death and somehow to me--not real women. Not a woman to look up to but to pity...weak women.
This is amazing. Also, can you imagine the picture these two are going to make? Like father and daughter. The stong father handing down a legacy and teaching this woman--like a daughter--instead of the usual "son"...this is going to be a very healing moment for so amny girls and women and most won't even know it...I think to many this will be irrisistable!!!
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