Anti-Quackery & Science Blog
I see three seperate issues here.
1. Do these things work?
2. Who is selling them?
3. How are they being sold?
Since they are being sold MLM, it should come as no surprise that some shady ccharacters would be involved. However this has no bearing on whether they work or not.
info@cyclinginnovations.com has some pages in these things that are about how they are supposed to work.It seems to be better than most of the lifewave sites.
I have used the patches. I have tried them for several months and seem to have more energy all day, when I use them. I'll be glad to see any other study in the future.
To those who don't believe in the Lifewave energy patch, I have one question. Are you smarter than the world renound scientists who have done studies on the patches. Have you attended UC Berkley? That's what I thought. Good luck at destroying this nanotechnology product. If you haven't studied nanotechnology, it might be a wise idea. Since scientists predict it to change the world. You can continue to waste your time proving something you know nothing about while the rest of us are making millions and helping others to feel better.
Despite the disbelief, these patches do actually work.
The so called "placebo effect" is greatly overrated. One very important question is: why doesn't the "placebo effect" work for everything else? I have experimented with many products for over 2 decades and, despite my willingness to "believe", many of these products delivered nothing in terms of energy, strength etc.
Many other people and athletes have experienced the same. They'd love for a product to work, but all the hope and belief in th eworld doesn't make it so. When it doesn't work they are told well, you were sucked in. When it does work, well, clearly it MUST be the placebo effect!
It's a convenient pseudoscience damned if you do and damned if you don't argument. Many products that claim to "increase energy" simply don't work despite great levels of initial excitement and belief etc. Where is the awesome power of the "placebo effect" then?
The placebo effect "cop out" explanation is often the worst kind of pseodoscience that there is. The placebo effect "explanation" is usually a purely academic, arm chair type, non experiential type of quackery.
On the other hand, if you are going to place such power into a placebo effect on a consistent basis then I guess it is true that many surgeries have simply a placebo effect (which has been demonstrated). I don't see many experts trying to "save" people from unnecessary surgeries that mainly have a placebo effect. No, the term is only relished and saved for applying to something apparently outside conventional academia.
The self appointed quackwatch site has the hubris to claim it exists to "combat health-related frauds, myths, fads, fallacies, and misconduct". There have been some small, gradual improvements made over the years, but overall it suffers from chronic superficiality and is a poor and incomplete source for information that has fallen even further behind current scientific research. And it's all so stern and "parental", warning against this and that.
Quackwatch conveniently ignores many harmful cases of quackery such as unnecessary surgeries, psychiatry, fraudulent, corrupted, "outcome based" scientific studies that claim some substance or drug is "perfectly safe" etc.
However, I like quackwatch because I often use it the opposite way it was intended: to discover and research new and useful therapies and modalities that actually work very well. It's kind of like kids will do things their parents admonished them not to do, and find that there isn't any big deal about it at all. Then they start to doubt their parent's wisdom a little which can break vicious cycles of unhealthy beliefs.
The medical field is the biggest quackery of them all. Backed by not one ounce of scientific research that works.
The body does the healing, medicine men do the killing. I have never met a healthy enough doctor or proponent of the medical establishment nor will there ever be one. Doctor means teacher and the so called father of medicine, Hippocrates was not a physician but a herbalist. 400,000 people in America are killed annually in which the death certificate reads "Death by adverse reaction to prescription drugs". If you should find a healthy enough Medicine Doctor who has any drive whatsoever in disproving what I have said, have them email me and we will have a fun little challenge in which you can videotape for the world to see who has the superior mind and body. It will not be a medicine man or woman, I assure you that. Please no hate email, just words of wisdom that backs there methodology of treatment other than drug treatment, radiation, ectomy's, etc.
Hello people:
I'd just like to drop my impressions here...
I don't sell patches, nor any other product (apart from computers). I'm not a doctor but I've seen my share of healthy cures coming out of the nature medicine field, and I'm very open minded to try things (non harmful things).
I read about the patches a while ago, and wanted to try them. It's not easy, for I live in Europe and the company didn't sell here, but at last I got ahold of some patches and tried them.
How did I do it?... Just putting them on at sundays when I play soccer with my team (against other guys who are always the same, so it was a more-or-less controlled environment)
Did I notice anything?... Well, yes. I was a bit faster and won most of my races against defenses. But it could be just the day, I could be in better shape that day or whatever...
But I repeated two more days and happened the same!.
So, yes, I think the patches really work. It's because the placebo effect?... Even if it was, it'd be ok for me... I just want the results, and if I'm getting because of drinking sugared water, it's ok for me.
Just my two cents. I hope this helps.
Cesar
We don't use the Energy patches, but we use the glutathione patches to detoxify by Lifewave.
I am not a distributer....I am curing my child of Autism using these out of the box so called "quackery" methods. Those in Asia have been doing it for thousands of years.
We do a lot of biomedical alternative medicine, ALONG with what our pediatrician says "Autism can't be cured, only the behaviors modified" So...we do ABA for that (behavior modification). But...my son is sick inside from the environment and the insult to his immune system after vaccination.
The good news is...he is on his way to recovery because his mother is open to this stuff you people call garbage....perhaps you will "get it" if one of your loved one's is afflicted.
Kersten Rojas
I wasn't planning on spending time commenting, but decided to do it anyways.
I've tried Lifewave patches. Did they work for me? Seemed to--energy, racquetball, lifting weights, etc. Placebo? Possibly. But to comment on everyone giving credit to these patches: the scientific method can be used to determine (not perfect, of course) whether or not a hypothesis is measurably better than a placebo. And double-blind is the way to go, to avoid subconscious (or conscious) influence by the observer of the process or data. So until this is done, regardless of how much everyone craps on the medical establishment or psuedo-science or whatever for failure, there is no REAL proof. Yes, a lot of people can say that they can do an extra 30 pushups, lift another 20 pounds, run an extra mile. But those are all individual experiences. To give the scientific method credit, a lot of snake-oil fails to pass these tests, and can usually be disproven quickly. And out of all the disciplines known to me, science is the fastest albeit it still takes roughly 20 years before a concept is commonly accepted as fact (look at Einstein, he never believed in Quantum Theory until his grave, but if it's false, then how the f*ck does my cell phone and computer work?)
On the other side of the coin... Read about Robert Anton Wilson's bout with polio when he was a child (5-8 yrs old?). The American Medical Association said to do one thing, but his parents (?) decided to follow the Sister Kenny Method--a 'quack' idea as defined by AMA. How did he do? He died this year at 75... only ended up in a wheelchair due to post polio syndrome for the last 10 years (not sure). Most that followed AMA's advice fared far worse.
When a voodoo shaman can point a death stick at someone and have them fall sick and die within 24 hours, this helps support the notion that beliefs are POWERFUL. Was the Sister Kenny Method medically sound? Probably not. Did it create the mindset and beliefs that allowed people to overcome the disease? Yes. I don't know the exact vehicle that was used to get the result, but I do know that it worked.
Does Lifewave work by using nanotechnology and bio-electromagnetic fields?
Does Lifewave work by a placebo due to a kinesthetic stimulus?
If either one is true, then you can presumably get to your outcome. The only problem I see is that if the second one is true, then people are spending $10 per application versus 10 cents per application.
Sorry if this is too long. And I haven't checked every single fact, only from memory... so please feel free to correct me where necessary.
I just want to know if they will be harmful to kids ??? Our Skate Boarders are using them.
We don't need more sick or dead Kids.
I had never heard of them.
I am a wellness coach. I tried one of their products years ago but it didn't seem to have a dramatic effect. But when I rediscovered about them (this time with proper induction and a more open mind) I found that 95% of the time they work. Those who keep saying they are quakery - I want to ask, have you tried them? I am Chinese with Western education. I know for a fact that acupuncture works. I have seen when done properly it works. Many healing methods that even my illiterate grandma knew are pooed pooed by the so-called more "educated" western people unfortunately. I am happy to have (re)discovered about these products. I have helped so many people reduce or even disappear their pain in seconds with their pain patches. I am also trained in kinesiology and have tested the energy patches on many people and 100% of the time with muscle testing the difference is obvious. Often the subject is not aware of what we are doing and sometimes we do it double-blind. The results are repeatable.
I wish I had used these on my late father earlier, who died of colon cancer. When I first patched him with the glutathione he had 8 bowel movements in one day. Nothing I have seen could have done this.
However I have to add that people need to be properly inducted to the application to getthe best results. Although the first time I used the pain patches my very stiff neck and muscles just went away in minutes and I was just patching where it was most stiff without putting on specific acu points. A similar situation in the past normally would have take me a long massage session and a relaxing bath to improve. (More time and $$ spent than patching) I have also found the energy patches have a positive effect on emotional wellbeing, beyond the physical effect that so many athletes have experienced.
By the way discrediting something as quack just by the fact it's sold by MLM is UNscientific. It is a subjective opinion. I have tried many products, sold by MLM or not. I do NOT see any correlation between the effacacy of the product and where they are sold by MLM (by word-of-mouth or network marketing) or by traditional marketing. I can see why products like the Lifewave ones require personal sharing and it's ideal to be sold through network marketing. As these seem so "too good to be true" (at least for those who are have not caught up with energy medicine) they can be hard to sell by traditional selling methods, as any new technology and new concepts are first attacked by the general masses before they become main stream.
Are you totally satisfied with your brain washing against Lifewave and their doctors...as you do for other products and MLM's?
I think that you must be very miserable to have nothing better to do than making your living in such a way...
It's only in America that all privacy is banned and everyone has to bring their studies & other matters public and on internet where precisely there is no respect integrity now-days!
In other parts of the world, not everyone wants and has to give their CV to be considered a responsible or truthful person!!!
Stop with these non-senses because the way the level of consciousness is going today in the world, you are only losing battles!!!
In energy field, as in others ( medicine, computers) nanotechnology is making amazing progress.
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