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It's a sign of the Apocalypse when the Catholic church is more progressive than modern society.
beajerry |
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01.24.06 - 11:25 am | #
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Interestingly enough, one of the people that dealt a serious blow to the 'intelligent' design movement was Ken Miller, a devout catholic. His webpage is a particular favorite of mine and I find myself referencing it frequently along with TalkOrigins whenever I'm debating creationist nonsense on the internet.
His Flagellum Unspun - The Collapse of Irreducible Complexity is the basis for much of the argument presented against Behe in Dover, PA.
By the way, thanks for linking my homepage, Anne! I've just started a blog of my own to compliment it here: http://hotcupofjoe.blogspot.com
cfeagans |
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01.27.06 - 2:00 am | #
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This new term is merely taking advantage of a more scientifically "sounding" verbage, but is a cloak for teaching God in school. If parents want their children to be versed in religion, they can send them to church, which is a totally different building for just that purpose.
GinaMiller |
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01.29.06 - 7:15 pm | #
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This may just be a regional thing, but here in North Carolina, "church" services are sometimes held in public schools, movie theaters, etc. until a new congregation can afford to build an actual church. I don't know if the schools charge rent for the use of the facilities or if it's regarded as community service.
Susan |
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01.29.06 - 10:12 pm | #
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Seriously, what the hell is up with the trees in the background? Are they supposed to be ents?
Bartholomew Cubbins |
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02.04.06 - 3:03 pm | #
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This may just be a regional thing, but here in North Carolina, "church" services are sometimes held in public schools, movie theaters, etc. until a new congregation can afford to build an actual church. I don't know if the schools charge rent for the use of the facilities or if it's regarded as community service.
I once had to vote in a church, down here in Texas.
BronzeDog |
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02.06.06 - 4:01 pm | #
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Creationism has been proven again and again by many renowned scientists. The Bible is the only book that is consistent with scientific findings of ancient ruins. For you to say that evolution is the only right answer is insulting. I highly doubt that we all were single-cell organisms when we first "came into existence," as you like to think. How is it possible for something as complex as the human body to have simply appeared one day? What about the circle of life? How is it that everything in nature has a balance? All of that could not have "happened" one day. Since we have no way of going back into time, we have no idea what to believe, the Bible or theories based on spectulation. I have chosen to believe the Bible, because I know it to be true. Many would challenge me in my belief, but then, those that do have nothing to support their belief of evolution.
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03.04.06 - 5:10 pm | #
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I do believe in a benevolent Creator. I also believe that we were created according to the laws our Creator established to operate this universe by, from dust, and step by tiny step, into the wondrous beings we are today. Evolution is how we were made, the Creator is who did the making.
An omniscient Creator is not limited in understanding as are we, and what we perceive as merely randomness certainly could be incredibly subtle precision. To deny this is hubris, arrogance, and foolish.
Our limited perspective and capacity to comprehend the vast and limitless universe, and all the interactions in it, is not the absolute zenith of comprehension possible.
Everyone needs to show a little humility, and admit we only know just a little of our world, and set out to discover the rest.
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03.10.06 - 10:53 am | #
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Great cartoon. I am going to "borrow" it for my blog with a link to this site of course. 
beep |
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03.11.06 - 3:02 am | #
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What amaze me about ID-proponents, is that they seem to think that God (given that God exist) would choose a model for his creation where he must decide every single parameter himself, rather than the truly intelligent design of evolution, where he sets a few initial conditions and watch it all unfold. Not that I would claim to know what an omnipotent being would do, but it certainly seems much tidier.
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04.11.06 - 11:26 am | #
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I am just curious. Can any of you explain how a girrafe or the bomadeir(sorry, I'm not sure how to spell it) beetle have evolved? Going by natural selection, both should be extinct, but obviously, they are not.
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04.22.06 - 8:07 pm | #
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The impression I get is that creationism/intelligent design is an American creation that is slowly spreading to other countries. Here in South Africa many of the conservative Christians are looking towards America as an example of what they 'should' believe regarding evolution. Is there any truth to this? I am interested in why this movement started happening in the first place. Is it perhaps because America is the most technologically advanced, which started creating problems for conservative Christians?
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06.04.06 - 7:16 am | #
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I think the problem of Evolution vs Creationism is merely a lack of understanding and a reluctance to compromise on both sides of the equation. Even Darwin freely expressed the holes in his theory. Yet for anyone to believe that absolute creation occurred in twenty-four hour segments is equally ludicrous. Could it be possible that the radicals on both sides may have both compromised the real truth? Scientific theory by its own definition cannot exclude other means of proof or disproof. Creationism cannot in and of itself explain the rapid adaptation of different species to new environments. Just because either side is correct on one account, does not make either of them correct on all counts.
Ward |
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07.05.06 - 3:53 pm | #
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Re: the Catholic Church's opposition to ID, keep in mind that most ID proponents in the U.S. are aligned with so-called bible-based fundamentalist churches, which tend to compete with the Catholics for members, so it only makes sense that the Vatican would oppose them.
Doug Rohde |
09.06.06 - 8:44 am | #
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Catholic church is not Christian (never was never will be) it is as much heathen as this blogger. Roman Catholics worship idols (forbidden atleast 100 times in the Bible, the book they claim to follow) just like any other heathen, like buddhists, hindus and muslims.
If you study the topic out you will find this to be true. Btw why do you keep calling evoultion science when it is a theory for stupid socialist/communists? I'm skeptic of skeptics because skeptics are usually not skeptics but a bunch of idiots thinking they're more clever then they truly are, especially when they continually reveal their idiocy in the open, just like this blog.
Christian Soldier |
01.08.07 - 9:44 am | #
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There appears to be a lot of confusion on this board about the position of the Catholic Church on evolution and on Intelligent Design... I would recommend going here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Evo...Catholic_Church
The Catholic Church teaches that all things were created by God from nothing. It was God's will to create humanity. Catholics are free to support or oppose evolution; it is not a doctrine of faith.
After reading the article by Fiorenzo Facchini, it appears he has some misunderstandings on what Intelligent Design is. ID in a nutshell states that the complexity of a living organism is too great to have come about purely by random chance. It says that due to this complexity, this organism had to have been planned by an intelligent creator. It doesn't explicitly state support or opposition to creationism or evolution.
The Catholic Church is adamant about its belief that human life was willed by God from the beginning of time. So for a Catholic evolutionist, he/she must say that the cards to the "random" deck of the universe were stacked to begin with. This whispers "Intelligent Design", whether Fiorenzo Facchini knows it or not.
The fact that the universe was encompassed in one highly concentrated ball right before the big bang is a testament to the finite aspect of this universe. Time, distance, and matter are all finite and had a beginning, this is scientific fact. The chances of randomly producing a living cell and all its mechanisms that must tick in sequence for it to live and reproduce are too extreme for it to have been produced via a “shuffled deck”. Think of DNA itself and how difficult it would be to randomly produce it. E. Coli alone has over 4,600,000 base pairs in one DNA molecule!
Jesse Brumbaugh |
05.07.08 - 1:26 am | #
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I have a feeling that this Fiorenzo Facchini actually does know what he's talking about, and it's not what this "skeptic" site thinks. Nor is it what the Fundamentalists think (by the way, Catholics do NOT worship idols in any way, never have, and if anyone doubts, look at what the Catholic Church actually teaches from the Catechism, and correct your false witness).
I think Fiorenzo Facchini and the pope probably agree, that Intelligent Design is a religious view, but it does NOT make it any less true. Likewise, evolutionary theory that bars ID isn't fact just because some scientists say so.
Jose Martinez |
08.16.08 - 1:47 pm | #
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Oh lol, every time I see something with the Vatican , I picture myself the pope mobile!
Oz |
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05.15.09 - 8:34 pm | #
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