I posted links to these two posts on Atrios, fwiw. Fortunately they had an open thread that was almost new, so the post is fairly early.
Thank you, oddjob.
xox
Oh god, I can't even breathe. There aren't words to describe it - how can they. how can they do this - why does no one care? NO ONE CARES ABOUT RAPE. WHY?
Is there any sort of legal defense fund or other way a person could help this woman out? My heart goes out to her and I wish her all the best in her recovery from this horrible event.
I posted an article on my site as well - including contact information for that judge. Thanks for the pointer - I just wish I could get my hands on that motherfucker!
She Screamed Rape - So They Raped Her Again
It's more than heartbreaking, it's infuriating.
One on mine as well.
I see Pam has posted, too. I have earlier...
I think the proper punishment for those three guys should be to go rape a horse and...what happens happens...OK?
Lovely, another disgusting case of "blame the victim" & "she must have been asking for it"
I am so sick of rapists that society sticks up for, rather than punishes & scorns
"Extremities" sounds like perfect viewing right now
There's no other crime where the victim gets blamed in the least, it's a disgusting practice that has to stop, the sooner the better
Should anyone be surprised? This has been the Neo-Nazi agenda for the past 30 years at least. Appoint judges like this asshole to keep the "Girls" in line. So what do you think is going to happen when they get this Alito asshole on the Supreme court?
And don't forget, Beaverton is where Nike , the biggest shomaker in China, got their start.
What can I do about this?
This isn't rhetorical. I mean, what, really, can I do about this, right now?
Is there an organization in Beaverton I can donate to?
I've worked with rape victims for nearly 20 years. Of course there is no typical reaction. Some are hysterical (the expected response, I guess) but some are numb and their affect is flat. Not surprisingly. Many break down in private while they cannot do so in public.
Those of us who work with victims have been horrified for a long time about how rape victims are treated. All too often this happens, but generally not so blatantly or openly. Generally the prosecutors just refuse to bring a case, and maybe threaten a false report if no evidence was collected.
When the hell will this change? Never?
I'll bet that idiot judge has got PLENTY of skeletons in his closet
PLENTY
I just couldn't let myself comment earlier as I feared the rage that would spew out. Just as a little test in the psychology of rape, perhaps we could arrange for the judge to undergo a similar experience and video his responses - just so we would have a norm. This is an outrage. I'll contact ACLU and Planned Parenthood, both groups deal with this type of incident. Let you know what I find out.
My comments on the subject can be found here, as inadequate as they are.
The New York Times this morning has a link to The Proceedings of the Old Bailey, London 1674 to 1834, where there are records of over 100,000 criminal trials. Because of having read your posting last night, the first search I did was on "rape" and the first return was this:
"There was a French Man also tryed for a Rape; pretended to be Committed on his Maid-Servant, upon the Tryal she gave Evidence that she was one Morning about her business, and her Master arose and as she said took her Virginity from her, being askt what she meant by that, she answered her Maidenhead; but it appearing to the Court, that she had not acquainted any one of it till three days after it was pretended to be done, nor had not accused her Master for it till above three weeks after, he was found not Guilty, and so acquitted."
Man, sexual offences : rape, 29th April, 1674.
It might take me a day or two to be able to write coherently about this,but when I do,I won't pull any punches.
I'm so pissed right now I'm shaking.
Thanks for the email yesterday, Shakes. I wrote a little about it this morning. I'm working up the courage to write about this some more.
I hope she's getting some counseling. It's the one thing that I truly regret - that I never told anybody until I met my husband.
I'm sending these links to my ex - I think she'd like to write about this too.
Usually when I read something that effects me emotionally, writing about it on PK helps me to sort it out.
For some reason, every time I sit down to write about this one I can't get through it. Its so sickening.
I have a draft started. I'll hopefully have it up later today.
After I read about this I decided to call the Washington County Prosecutor's Office to give them my opinion loudly. I don't think I am the only one who has tried to do that because I got a message saying they are not receiving calls as this time....cowards.
You’ll have to forgive me here, because I have only had a quick skim through the posts relating to this story (too obsessed with doing my own writing today) .. but am I right in summing this case up as follows:
a 17 year old girl is convicted on purely circumstantial evidence (and flaky circumstantial evidence at that), simply because the prosecutors didn’t want to believe her original rape allegation … and not because there was a single scrap substantial of evidence to suggest that her actual allegation was false?
If so, I am totally gob smacked.
She did not "act" traumatized? They're looking for people to "act"? God, that pisses me off. I guess that's what happens when you have a bunch of stuffed suits running the show who all "act" the same way and think everyone else does, too.
See "SHE DIDN'T ACT TRAUMATIZED ENOUGH."
I don't understand what the problem is. 3 stories that match from 3 different individuals versus 1 story from 1 individual that was inconsistant and unbelievable.All of the resonses voicing dismay should think about the children and Fathers separated by the UnConstitutional V.A.W.A. or the child abusive, female gender biased so called Family Law. All a women has to do is point at or say a man did this, OK Maam, He's guilty. It is time that those falsely accusing others are brought to justice.
God, this is infuriating. I'm so glad people are writing about this. I can't. The only thing I'd have to say is "Fuck those fucking fuckers," and generally I try for a higher level of coherence than that.
I love how the detective was just dying to find holes in this girl's story. Damn.
I'm speechless. This story makes me so, so sad. Nothing changes but the daily reasons for horror.
Plus, what is this douchebag A Raped Father doing instead of thinking? It's hard to believe anyone should leave him in charge of children.
A Raped Father
You don’t see where the problem is in the charges against the three guys being dismissed for lack of evidence, only for the alleged victim to be convicted on the basis of nothing but unqualified subjective opinion?
Which planet are you from?
I'm gonna scream, because if I don't, I'll cry.
Jesus, I have shoved this shit so far down inside of my being for so long that it attached its incidious self to my wall linings, cell memory, activated only by deep subconscious suggestion.
[i][b]Rape[/b][/i]
The images come flying back like stinky ashen bats out of hell, dripping pernicious ooze.
Tears are streaming down my face, my hands are shaking, and I don't have time for this shit right now, there is a long list of children to delight with letters from the Big Fat Dude Dressed In Red.
But, I promise: on the lives of all eight tiny reindeer, I WILL talk about this, and soon. And I also, will not pull any punches...that aren't well deserved. I guess thanks are in order for all of you who are bringing focus to this silent plague that has been harvesting in predatory fashion, the feasts of flesh since time began.
I was wondering when this was going to rise to the surface. I have been waiting. I guess now is the time to deal with it, once and for all.
Especially if it will help just one victim, suffering in a confused, confounded, shroud of silence.
A 17 year old women has a " fling " with 3 guys. Next day, after having a great time, What if my friends find out?? I know, I'll profess rape, the courts and V.A.W.A.s many dependents will protect me. Besides they are just guys, what will it matter if they are marked as sex offenders for life, I have my reputation to uphold. It really won't be much different than divorcing a man and stealing his home and children from him and 30% of his income for the next 18 years. Yes!,Yes!, Yes!, (just like I said to the 3 guys!!!!!!!!) That is what I'll do.
I personally find this case incredible because 1) the girl was 17 at the time, 2) the guys apparently admitted that the sex took place while saying that she consented to the sex, but 3) under Oregon law, a person under 18 is deemed NOT CAPABLE OF GIVING CONSENT. In Oregon, sex with someone under 18 is statutory rape.
See Chapter 163 of the Oregon Revised Statutes, Offenses Against Persons at http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/163.html
163.315 Incapacity to consent; effect of lack of resistance.
(1) A person is considered incapable of consenting to a sexual act if the person is:
(a) Under 18 years of age;
(b) Mentally defective;
(c) Mentally incapacitated; or
(d) Physically helpless.
(2) A lack of verbal or physical resistance does not, by itself, constitute consent but may be considered by the trier of fact along with all other relevant evidence. [1971 c.743 §105; 1999 c.949 §2; 2001 c.104 §52]
Now, why didn't this come up in the decision not to prosecute the rape but instead to prosecute the child victim?
Could it be because of the legal idiocy and incompetence of the prosecutor and the judge?
The prosecutor was Theodore ("Ted") R Naemura, whose title is "Assistant City Attorney I". That makes him the lowest man on the totem pole in the City Attorney's Office. He's the guy who fetches the other attorneys' coffee.
People can contact him and ask him why he failed to prosecute a case of admitted statutory rape via his Internet-published contact info at:
City Attorney's Office
4755 SW Griffith Dr
PO Box 4755
Beaverton OR 97076
Phone: 503 526-2215
Fax: 503 526-2479
Email: tnaemura@ci.beaverton.or.us
The list of staff at the City Attorney's Office is here:
http://www.beavertonoregon.gov/
d..._directory.html
People might also want to check out the judge (Peter Alan Ackerman) in this case. He has been an attorney for a whopping 16 years and touts himself as an intellectual property specialist. I could find no qualifications for him whatsoever regarding criminal law, including offenses against persons.
He also runs a company called Innovation Asset Group. They have a website at http://www.innovation-asset.com
"Innovation Asset Group (IAG) helps companies gain the enterprise-wide visibility needed to understand their intangible assets and maximize IP value. IAG is a team of experts in engineering, law, business and IP valuation. Together, we have created an unparalleled, customer-focused approach to maximizing the economic potential of any knowledge-driven organization. Our DECIPHER™ system is an integrated software solution for the management of intellectual property assets and the contractual agreements that surround them."
Peter Ackerman has a bio at the site which lists his "credentials":
"Peter Ackerman, Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, is an attorney who began his legal career in 1989 at Intel Corp. in Hillsboro, Oregon. He handled a variety of
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"Peter Ackerman, Founder, President and Chief Executive Officer, is an attorney who began his legal career in 1989 at Intel Corp. in Hillsboro, Oregon. He handled a variety of intellectual property issues company-wide concerning trademarks, patents, copyrights, trade secrets, licensing and sales, antitrust, product liability, warranties, joint ventures, and human resources. Mr. Ackerman has served as a Municipal Judge for the City of Beaverton, Oregon, helping to develop it into one of the most technologically advanced municipal courts in the United States. He has a reputation for integrity and thoroughness. In his private practice, Mr. Ackerman has conducted intellectual property assessments for technology companies and provided transactional support to clients involved with Microsoft, HP, Siemens, Novell, and Intel. He is now devoted full time to IAG. Mr. Ackerman holds a J.D. from the Santa Clara University School of Law."
His Internet-published contact information is:
Peter Alan Ackerman
Innovation Asset Group
19352 SW Mohave Ct
Tualatin OR 97062
Phone: 503 697-9633
Email: packerman@innovation-asset.com
People might ask him what qualifications an intellectual property lawyer would have to judge the credibility of a rape victim, or why he deemed credible men who ADMITTED committing statutory rape under Oregon law.
A 17 year old women has a "fling" with 3 guys.
Just not very fond of this little inconvenience called 'evidence', which civilised people tend to look for, are you, ARF? It kind of looks like you just likes to fall back on good old-fashioned prejudice, male superiority and female insignificance … or if you prefer, plain uncomplicated misogyny.
I bet you also like to think that women should be slave incubators for your bastard spawn and belong in the kitchen.
Perhaps letters, too, to Ted Naemura, the prosecuting attorney.
Ignore ARF -- he is an asshole. He obviously thinks of himself as having been "raped" since his wife took the kids and got 30% of his pay for child-support and he is now determined to take it out on all women -- even the ones who were literally raped. Sorry your divorce was so messy, but fuck you. It's people like you that cause rape to be so under-reported and under-prosecuted.
The reality is that at a MINIMUM 45 to 50% of all rape allegations filed by women are false. And transversly, as all of our laws are gender neutral, how many women have ever been charged with raping juvenile boys??? Instead boys as young as 12 are paying CHILD SUPPORT for a child that was the result of a crime. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!! All of you guys defending this TROLLUP take off your aprons and skirts. Be a MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!
Get some help!
ARP, the only reality around here is that you are full of 110% prime steaming bullshit.
... and by the way, the word you can't quite get right is actually 'trollop' .. and is derived from the word 'troll', which seems to fit your favourite activity somewhat better than anyone else I can think of 
My post ont the subject is here. ARF- according to the report in the Oregon paper only 3% of all rape accusations turn out to be false. Perhaps you should do a little more research and maybe ask yourself how you would feel if this were your wife or daughter or sister or mother that was forced to pay for being raped and seeking justice?
Don't feed the trolls. I know it is especially heinous when they attach themselves to something this terrible; but attention is what they crave. I am reminded of that loony who murdered Rebecca Schaeffer - all he wanted was publicity. As he had no talent or intellect of his own to speak of, he decided to steal someone else's. The same with John Lennon's assassin - and others of that particular stripe. Ask yourself – why would someone insinuate themselves into such a delicate discussion? How did they find it in the first place, if they weren’t already searching on the subject? Icky – don’t you think? So - I repeat - don't feed the trolls.
Still waiting for an intelligent reply. When you wwwomen wake up and realize that you are being used by the lawyers to make great amounts of money and to take away EVERYONES RIGHTS will be a great day. Until then as now continue to think that it is all about you and you are the only person on earth.
ARF - If you'd like an intelligent reply from readers of this blog, I suggest mounting an intelligent argument.
Serious question.
Do you believe men accused of rape should be simply locked up without a trial? I say that because in this case not only was there no evidence against the accused men but the woman was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. However despite this due process of law you assume the woman is innocent and the men must be guilty.
So why bother with a trial? What possible good is a trial if it is only a risk of getting the "wrong" result and letting a man go unjailed?
Or do you think simply locking men up would look bad and it´s better to have a show trial as long as the result is a foregone conclusion?
If you think that I assume the men are guilty, you need to go back and read the original post. I never say that anywhere.
David--
You don't know much about rape cases, do you? What evidence do you expect there to be? Real life is not Law and Order or CSI, there isn't always clear evidence to help a woman prove her case. The only evidence in this case appears to be a stunning, and somewhat typical, lack of evidence for all the parties-- no concrete evidence of guilt or innocence for either side.
Unfortunately this kind of rape case is far too common-- woman says she was raped, the man (or men) say she wasn't. It's her word against theirs. This is one of the many reasons women don't come forward after being assualted or raped, the bulk of the case depends on whether or not she can convince others of her version of events-- a pretty horrific task that must be repeated over and over. They guy will say she wanted it, she has to prove that she didn't. At the end if she loses the case due to lack of evidence she's a slut who lied about a rape, it's a lot to risk.
It's alot to risk?? There are far more " SHAM " Domestic Violence and Rape cases then there are actual assaults. Women are also more likely to use violence against a partner and also more likely to be believed in court, especially when backed up by the FEMALE LINEBACKERS from the local women's shelter. It is a very profitable industry, these FALSE ACCUSATIONS.
You ought to see a therapist about that misogyny. You'll never be seen as a fit father if that's the best you can do.
It may be a coincidence, but it appears that Nike has been hurt financially by the Kobe Briant scandal and Nike is based in, yup, Beaverton, Oregon.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6796146/
I see the misandrist hate-mongers are out in force, saying its not acceptable to convict a women on the evidence of three men while it is fine to convict three men on the say-so of one woman.
What feminist bigots don't want the rest of us to discover is that while the rate of false accusations is under 2% for most crimes, for rape it is 30% to 60%. While false accusers often send their victims to prison for decades, they are rarely sent to prison even when they are uncovered.
Its time for bigots to stop whining that they're victims and need more priviledges. That tactic doesn't work any more.
And by the way, it is perfectly acceptable for rape accusers to have their motives and history with the accused explored. The current law on ananymous accusations and rape evidence is lopsidedly designed to maximise false convictions in a way that hasn't been since the Inquisition in the Dark ages.
Wow - the trolls really came out in force on this one! They must have searched on 'rape' and been directed here. Kinda makes you wonder why, huh? I'm guessing they have perpetrated violence against women themselves, and got off on the intimidation. So they come here, and to other sites in a vain attempt to recapture that feeling of power. Since they’re not getting it, they flail and flounder; wailing and gnashing their teeth. You see - we are not afraid of them - and they need that fear – it’s their aphrodisiac. I noticed this type of response on various blogs regarding racism. It’s all the same – the same kind of trolls as well. They'll go once they realize we won't engage, and won't be silenced.
I bet fat lady sings for more welfare handouts and child support money, Oh hold it that is automatic even though she dosen't allow DAD parenting time and fully has the children alienated and abused.
You didn't really answer my question.
A lot of feminists do think that men are all guilty because of their gender. Especially on sexual issues, famously there's the whole "all sex is rape" crowd. Most feminists feel men are guilty of maleness in some sense -- that's the essence of feminist philosophy.
No, you didn't say in so many words that men should be locked up without a trial, but it was the implication of what you and the rest have said. Namely you have said that even when a woman who makes an accusation is proven beyond any reasonable doubt in a court of law to have lied -- a very rare and extreme case -- even then we must assume that she was telling the truth and the men are rapists. In oither words there's no standard of evidence you'd accept to prove or even make you consider the possibility that the woman was the criminal and the men were the real victims.
If you are not saying men who are accused of rape should be locked away without a trial then what are you saying? That the trial should be a show-trial? If only a guilty verdict (for the man) is acceptable to you then you are fundamentally opposed to the concept of a trial and evidence, justice, courts and so on. For men.
You don't appear able to face the logical implications of your own sexist remarks.
I wasn't really sure what you'd say in reply to my question but after reading your reply, yes, I would guess that you think all men are guilty. No, that's not what you said. It's a fair interpretation of what you've said and what you've refused to say.
David is hitting the nail right on the head.
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