btw - for an extra dose of AIPAC spin, be sure to read the NYSun puff-piece on Rosen - its titled "How AIDE at Aipac Became a Target In U.S. Spy Case", altho it doesnt really try to undermine him as an aide. i did love the headline tho. (make sure u read through to the last para)
I have a really good idea, if the name is Jewish, don't even bother to read it, let alone consider the message. Jews are inherent liars.
oh well, I'll never believe another word of the writings of Sigmund Freud, Albert Einstein, Norman Mailer, Saul Bellow, Isaac Bashevis Singer, Arthur Miller, Ram Dass, I'll just sweep them off my shelf and into your personal Auschwitz bin that you will doubtless hold out for me you propagator of racist slurs.
It was a form of mental torture, living in the UK between 1999 and 2003, and seeing, hearing, reading, so incredibly many references to Saddam Hussein as the dictator who gassed his own people. A few of us knew that Winston Churchill (voted on the BBC as the greatest-ever Briton) had advocated gassing the Iraqi tribes in the 1920s. For the UK intelligensia, the accusation that Saddam had gassed his own people was not only a cause for righteous indignation, it was a dagger of guilt in the heart. A particularly clever strike, because our attention was thereby diverted from the facts, delivered to the UN in a massive Iraqi dossier that the Americans immediately seized and gutted, about the Allies and their profitable support for both sides in the disgraceful Iran/Iraq war of the 1980s.
of course when caught they slither into the aushchwitz routine..oh yea...they quietly dropped that old story from 4 million to 400,000 too..when caught
There's some serious provocation going on here by "facts" and "Chris". You guys/gals are slime.
This site is about current affairs, not racism, either real or feigned. Cretins.
The Jewish Sayanim
Read about these nests
There are legitimate questions that need to be discussed. Bullshit about the Holocaust and "Jews" is meant to disrupt and throw this site and others like it into disrepute by mixing legit questions about how this war started, who benefits, who supports it and how, with crap.
Trolls come in many guises.
>>There are legitimate questions that need to be discussed. Bullshit about the Holocaust and "Jews" is meant to disrupt and throw this site and others like it into disrepute by mixing legit questions about how this war started."
Bravo. Regradless of who chimes in with nutty sentiments (real or fabricated), AIPAC spied or it didn't. That is the only real issue.
ATS in DC
"Chris" and "facts" are probably trolls trying to poison the comments so xymphora can later be blamed, possibly by the same party, for maintaining a hate site. This is pretty common and is the main concern with having comments. Even venerable blogs like Atrios', Max Sawicky's and TPM will occaisionally get a jerk trying to plant something he can be outraged about.
That said, yes, there is a distinctiuve Jewish mentality (heavily criticized by certain Jewish and Israeli academics as superficial morality concealing immorality like crossworshipper fundamentalism) that says "because everyone is always out to get us, all things are permitted." There's a perpetual self-defense emergency, and since everyone else is a hateful liar out to trip us up, it's not like we're under any obligation to tell the truth. Or, as with an awful lot of American media foxing around and asking their Leader where to line up, there's this sense that lying for Israel is not really lying.
You go by Jewish last names you'll be out us, Shahak, Chomsky, Goodman, Reinhart, Finkelstein, Zinn, Stone, Evron, Boyarin, Avnery, etc. However, you look for honesty about Israel in the American, Canadian (worse than American for some reason), or German (yes, you read that right) mainstream media, and you're an idiot.
As a matter of fact does anyone recall once seeing that one blonde the CBC always has reporting from Israel in uniform? CNN once did a piece with an Israeli military public affairs officer (the most objective source outside of the People's Liberation Army Center for Truth) who looked an awful lot like her. Of course, it's a gag in itself that the chicks IDF puts in the PR booth look like bleached New England wasps.
Shocking--Americans are saps!
Disagree? Read this and tell us if I'm Correct or just over reacting.
19 Arabs kill 3000 at WTC--we blaste the crap out of two countries--killed hundreds of thousand---jailed and tortured as many.
Now how is it that if a certain group's influence and money kills millions and Americans do dick.
History untold in class 101
In 1915 woodward Wilson was spied upon and Black mailed for having a sexual affair with his buddies wife.The deal---Bribe the Russian Czar not to sign the peace treaty with Germany--$3million 1915--over trillion in todays,military arms and food included.After re-elected,Coward Wilson broke the promise-he would never send troops to Europe's war.
Millions died,America waited for the kill.The Jews were not finished Wilson--they wanted Homeland for the Jews-in the Belford agreement.WWII was a continue of WWI-The Germans got shifted by the Jews and still today the Invasion is all for the greedy jews.
The posters that protect Jews,should know one detail--JEWS ONLY CARE FOR JEWS.
As in United Appeal--just gander on the resippants list and most Jewish centers.
Do you feel as saps now or just to stupid to know who your masters are?
"JEWS ONLY CARE FOR JEWS"
Now, now, don't forget Israel. They also care about Israel. The rest of the earth (except New York) can fry in a boiling mercury bath, but don't you touch Israel.
When Jews stop being the world's most heinous hypocritical bigots, I'll start listening to their caterwauling cries of "Nazi! Anti-Semite! Hitler! Holocaust! Genocide! Jew-baiter! Monster! blah blah blah
I love grabbing hold of little bits of truth like this, so when, months from now, Mr. Goldberg fulfills a greater role in this scheme/Bush/Sharon/Blair conspiracy, okay, Cheney too, and Wolfowitz (who has a punch-me face like I've never seen before,) Feith, well, I could go on but will lose the point which is that saving this, I will have somethint concrete to refer back to so I can keep the ever-expanding web of deceit closer to truth in my own head.
Those Republicans are some good whores.
We are loving the fact that the best these morons can do is dismiss following of neocon crimes as anti-Semitism (as if a Jew caught robbing a bank should be let go), when the neocons themselves are a hierarchy and are led by WASPs like Cheney and von Rummsfeldt. Goldberg and Wolfowitz are scum, enthusiastic accomplices, but none of the ringleaders here are going to benefit from hysterical Foxmanning until sometime after the ADL convinces people that Colin Powell or George Bush being criticized for their stance on Israel constitutes a kind of imputed or transferred anti-Semitism!
Archers,
If you could articulate a complete sentence in English maybe people could follow what you are trying to say. But the point about self interest is well taken. A self-interested group, even a small one, can have a huge influence, and Jews certainly have a way of only caring about their own tribe (and the almighty dollar/sheckle/euro).
It's doubtful that 19 Arabs were even on the planes that hit the WTC. There are more holes in the official conspiracy theory as compiled in the 911 Commission report than there are in an acre of lava.
Some of the anti-Semitism in these comments is repellant and does xymphora no favours. Anti-Israel (and, more specifically, anti-Sharon and his fascist regime) is very different from anti-Jew. It is comments such as that from 'Tom Bubbly' above that will inevitably be used to discredit the entire site as anti-Semitic, thereby dismissing its message entirely.
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