I followed the twists and turns this story took. This incident alone warrants an enquiry. No doubt it will be buried on page 277 of any future narrow remitted report into the whole Katrina affair. What a tangled web we weave....
Shit. Like there's going to be an inquiry. This is the mother of all money -making bonanzas for the rich American cartel.
Conspiracy to exploit is what has, and will be, going on.
I just began reading xymphora's referenced article from Voice of Aztlan "The Great New Orleans Land Grab" - referenced as one of the theories of what happened.
While many "inner cities" in the North, which have high populations of blacks, were founded in flights from the conditions of Jim Crow, I have been doing a little research which indicates that New Orleans - 2/3 or more black - is an entirely different sort of place. Black homeownership is high.
And not only that, they represent descent from the original European inhabitants from Latin countries, with the Anglos from other parts of the US being latecomers. And the immigrants from Ireland and Germany, mostly, came before most of the Anglos from the States, who look to have been a minority during the antebellum period.
Therefore, New Orleanian blacks have a unique position in their city. It somewhat resembles that of the black bourgeoisie of Washington DC, in which the mixed race children of plantation owners took up residence there, again in the antebellum periof.
In fact, I cannot help wondering if Washington DC is next on the hit list for clearances of black people. There is already a shoving match in the neighborhood directly behind the Capitol (which has a feel of the better and more gentrified sections of Harlem).
This is a big story - the bridge incident - which has been killed in what must be a cover-up. So easy to dispose of inconvenient bodies in NOLA these days.
Absolute power allows remarkable events to be buried in the landfill, doesn't it?
When I see the attempt to transform Washington DC into Salt Lake City, I'll know I'm right on this one.
This story really works to show me how you piece these things together Xymph. The leg work, informed guess work, speculation based on similar incidents and provisional conlusions-- all very helpful. Thanks for bringing us along.
As for the content-- can I just say that all this is so disturbing! In 2000, with the non-election of G.W. Bush the unthinkable became actual. Since then, I'm far more inclined to believe the unbelievable.
Dianne Foster, the info you've provided on the New Orleans demographics is an eye-opener. There were (are?) towns in Florida, like the one that Zora Niel Hurston came from...or Rosewood, the one they did that movie on, where back in 1923 the white folks went psycho and ran amok lynching people. I think white people need to take a long hard look at their shadow side and see how the history of racial hatred plays into their agression and fear.
Dianne, do you happen to have a link to stats of black/white home ownership in N.O.? The media is reporting that home ownership in the city goes is very heavily slanted to whites.
In early 2001, FEMA issued a report stating the three most likely disasters in the U.S.: a terrorist attack in NYC; a hurricane hitting New Orleans; a SF Bay earthquake.
Two down, one to go.
Bruce: I relied both on anecdotal evidence of intact black families fleeing (as to Boston), accounts of neighborhoods of young black professional "strivers" being flooded and the following:
neworleans.areaconnect.com/statistics.htm
This site spells out information from the 2000 census
The population of New Orleans is 67.25% black and 28.05% white, with small percentages of Asians and Latinos in approximately equal numbers; the rest are Pacific Islanders, Native Americans, Inuits, etc. (in the tens of people).
Owner-occupied housing amounts to 46.55%; rentals amount to 53.47%.
Bruce: P.s. The intact black families reported to have moved on their own to Boston, seem to be middle class but to have several children, which might point to their being practicing Catholics as well.
"In early 2001, FEMA issued a report stating the three most likely disasters in the U.S.: a terrorist attack in NYC; a hurricane hitting New Orleans; a SF Bay earthquake."
Everyone knows that the Big One in the Bay is When not if. Indy / Cincinnatti, are full of big West Coast concerns locating their IT / hardware / teams etc., Low cost housing, IN has the most secure energy in the whole US - but no International flights which Cincinnatti has (as well as P & G HQ who have taken over Gillette who will most likely re-locate from Boston).
Wise corporate planning. Natural disasters DO happen.
I meant to add that the Danziger Bridge has all the hallmarks of the de Menezes story in LOndon.
Reuters et al have gotten hold of a heap of crap or there is something mysterious - dead helicopters tell no tales but presumably the guys (injured) who were in it can.
Ah, *sniff*, it's just like the bombing of the Chinese embassy all over again.
I think this is a good example of a real smoking gun being buried under more exaggerated conspiracy theories which are actually red herrings. the three questions which one should try to keep separate are (1) who were the men shot (2) how did the helecopter come down and (3) how was the levee breached. My opinion is that the men shot were repair workers, the helicopter came down accidentally, and the levee was breached by the loose 400-tonne barge.
p.s. off topic but brilliant, from one of today's british broadsheets : "It will not be a crime to glorify an event that happened more than 20 years before, unless it is on a list drawn up by the Home Secretary."
Good morning children, welcome to Capitalism 101.
In case you showed up late here's the deal. We will run the place and if you don't like it pack your bags and go back to Africa. If you stick around, shut the fuck up and take the slave labor wages we will pay you, at least you won't have to grub around in the garbage when we build our new city with hotels and state of the art gambling casinos.
Tomorrow's lesson we will cover Mammon Worship 102 which does not include conspiracy discussions. By the way, if any of you smart ass students think your going to pull any shit with us, I'll have you know that mercs have been hired to enforce our law and capitalist order.
And next weeks lesson we are going to give a computer model demo of the potential destruction of the black folk in either Detroit, Washington, D.C. or Philly. We're now discussing which would give us the biggest return on our education.
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/
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I've been following this story as well. The contractors were apparently from Boh Brothers, a Baton Rouge construction firm. I emailed them but haven't received a reply either confirming or disconfirming that the contractors were from Boh Brothers. The non-reply does seem to add to the mystery.
Not directly related but hilarious:
Google on Bush:
- go to google and search for 'FAILURE'
- what's the first result?
:D :D :D
Response to: Rowan Berkeley | 09.16.05 - 4:21 am
You are correct in your theory that the "bombing" of the levee is disinfo to distract from the barge story and it's massive liability issues.
Look into who has controlled the barge traffic on the Mississippi since before the Louisiana purchase and you will find the source of the disinfo.
All existing accounts are wrong. The rapid evolution of stories were multiple attempts to cover-up the original report that came closest to the truth.
The individuals were DOD employees attempting to determine whether there was evidence to support concerns about levees being sabotaged. They were murdered by snipers/assassins.
Look here for more info:
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
Related: This administration is fighting desperately to save itself. It is under multiple indictments ranging from the 2000 stolen election, war crimes, the murder of political opponents and others.
http://www.tomflocco.com/
These investigative reporters have great track records and are well respected by their peers.
Greg
Yeah, that Flocco piece about Bush and Cheney to be indicted really was the scoop of the century. If only it was true...
He holds the Fintan Dunne award for most appealing fiction.
Urban renewal they used to call it.
Those in the know call it Negro Removal.
San Francisco... the third biggest commercial district, the Fillmore, was primarily black owned.
Then the city decided to improve it. They sent in men with clipbooards who documented that the district was
beyond repair. Gave property owners pennies on the dollar (if that) and then bulldozed the core of the neighborhood leaving block after block of empty lots.
See the opening scenes of the movie The Last Waltz for a quick flash of what they neighborhood looked like after so called Urban Renewal.
Years later - these guys are patient - the developers came in an built high rises. Until the late 90s tech boom, they mostly sat empty.
Urban renewal... which means move the black people the hell out of our city.
Details of how they did it in liberal, Democratic San Francisco:
http://amacord.com/fillmore/museum/
wreckball.html
I copied this story to my desktop. The link is not available but here is
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au
BREAKING NEWS
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Five dead 'were army workers'
September 05, 2005
At least five people shot dead by police as they walked across a New Orleans bridge yesterday were contractors working for the US Defence department, according to a report by The Associated Press.
A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal, the new agency said, quoting a defence Department spokesman.
The contractors crossing the bridge to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain, in an operation to fix the 17th Street Canal, according to the spokesman.
The shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, across a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain to the Mississippi River.
Early on Sunday, Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley of New Orleans said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.
No other details were immediately available.
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I couldn't get this page back on line. eric swan
If one takes the view that Bush represents an enemy within, then the Katrina event in NOLA takes on the logistics of warfare. However they twist and turn this event, the aftermath of the flooded levees is being handled as if the spoils of war.
If Bush declared War on the US and then proceeded as the Bush administration has it would be understood quite clearly that these are acts of war against the people of the United States. The shootings, the flooding, the prevention of rescue and other aid, the media blackout, foreign troops, Blackwater mercenaries, martial law, forced evictions, these are further acts of war.
The US invasion from the strategic lexis of the NOLA shipping lanes has begone; has anyone figured it out yet?
By the way,.....Blackwater uses PUMA helicopters. Blackwater was in town well in advance of the previously described events. Perhaps some Blackwater people exchanged fire with Local law-enforcement (regardless of who may have fired first.)
nice posts
Excellent as usual.
This harks back to the Days of Robert Moses and his building of the Interstate highway system.
He always sought to destroy established neighborhoods and communities of the working class.
Black areas as usual were subject to excessive destruction. It is a form of churning, that produces profits.
Bernard Baruch said that a hurricane comes and produces destruction which produces profits, so why wait for it to come when you can produce it.
The American people are the target of our criminal class, this is why they built up the nuclear weapons; To use on us. This also is why there has been a long running intervention from the folks up above.
http://politicsofet.com
So looters shot and killed contractors? How did they know they were "looters"? They were on a bridge, what were they "looting"? Is there any place left in the city that hasn't been emptied and CAN still be "looted"?
This whole govt and everything they do is a scam....
The posts from "eric swan" and "Not Necessary" pretty much provide the missing info IMHO. Thanks to you both.
bloody hell, the dave, if you can't even figure out how to arrange a sentence so that the subject comes before the verb and the object comes after it, you should bother to run a website.
"Perhaps some Blackwater people exchanged fire with Local law-enforcement (regardless of who may have fired first.)"
Perhaps you are insane.
You are talking about ex-military and ex-law enforcement personnel.
You speculate that they want to kill other law enforcement personnel based on the simple fact that an early report from a disaster zone was innaccurate and was later corrected.
all these events have been prophesised by john titor a few years ago. everyone is up in arms and is enti establishment. we all brought it on ourselves. we consume we are greedy and we mock others. we fought with each other while the cartel watched and laughed. we are so predictable and so arrogant. do we actually believe all the demontratives will make any differene? get over yourselves and take a look at yourselves. stop consuming and maybe there wont be anymore oxygen left for the fire. just stop crying and stop consuming you little cry-babies.
New Orleans is in an interesting situation due to the federal "laissez-faire" attitude from the get-go.
There are the horror stories, like cattle prods against the public, which will send them into the arms of the most stringent authority. CNN reports missing and exploited children (most, it seems, not necessarily victims of Katrina) while at the same time reporting the possibility of sex offenders loose at shelters. There is also the dilemma of a courthouse with evidence in criminal cases being so flooded that people will either have to be released or held, a la Gitmo, without charges (the legal precedents having been established for holding without the usual legal protections for the accused). No wonder Gonzalez was there with Cheney.
"Satan loves to fish in roiled waters".
But while everyone is quaking in his boots about the rank injustice and chaos, the financial shenanigans carry on. Poor homeowners' properties in the Ninth Ward and elsewhere - worth perhaps $150,000 - the family holdings of the working poor - are properties coveted by developers.
Half the lawyers of Louisiana have been flooded out. Some might cheer, others would be concerned about due process.
From Diego:
"Perhaps some Blackwater people exchanged fire with Local law-enforcement (regardless of who may have fired first.)"
Perhaps you are insane.
You are talking about ex-military and ex-law enforcement personnel.
You speculate that they want to kill other law enforcement personnel based on the simple fact that an early report from a disaster zone was innaccurate and was later corrected."
Diego,...I said no such thing. You assume that each side was actually aware of who the other guys were. I'm simply positing the notion that confusion occurs, especially in tense situations like we have seen in New Orleans. I'm not pointing the finger of blame for either side in that situation - simply pointing out from experience, that boots on the ground,...rifles-in-hand, unknown, potentially hostile situations can get,...uh,..."sticky". I'm didn't assign blame or malicious intent to either party. Relax Diego,....soak it up,....learn something, Grasshopper. 
Oooooo...Fourwinds10. They've been a week away from announcing NESARA for how many years now?
Former IDF have been sighted; pre and post NOLA, mob interests on an international scale have been targetting NOLA. These guys can be trusted because they are "friends" right?
it was reported oprah's two day (katrina) show, that the red? chopper on its side, was a crashed rescue chopper, that 'went down' while going to evac an MD, who'd stayed in a nearby hospital, taking care of local's pets. it was even mentioned that he had to wait another day for evac, and when passing the downed chopper on the way out, remarked he was glad he and the animals hadn't been on that flt.
"You are insane. You are talking about ex-military and ex-law enforcement personnel."
Yes, and you'd have to be nuts to imagine that highly trained military personnel would ever accidentally or deliberately engage in some kind of preposterous "friendly fire" if you will!!
America the new U.S.S.R.
"At least we smile before we kill them." U.S. soldier based in Iraq. It is true, you often become the things you hate.
I WAS ONE OF THE GUYS KILLED ON THE BRIDGE THAT DAY.
ME AND MY ARMY BUDS WERE ON OUR WAY TO DO A BDA (bOMB dAMAGE aSSESMENT) ON THE LEVEE WE BLEW THE PREVIOUS DAY USING THE COOLEST REBREATHERS EVER PROCURRED BY THE ONE WORLD ORDER.
wE GOT SHOT UP PRETTY BAD BY SOME LOCALS IN THE KNOW THOUGH SO I HAVE TA WRITE THIS FROM THE GREAT BEYOND.
wERE DEAD NOW. yOU CAN REJOICE AND DANCE IN THE STREETS ONCE AGAIN.
bOOT sPURR.
FEMACamps
I just got back from a FEMA Detainment CampI’m extremely depressed to report that things seem to only be getting sadder concerning the people so devastatingly affected by Katrina last week.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/bloggers...ers/evan/25229/
FEMA is giving proof that the have the "Final Solution" in their concentration camps.
http://www.globalnewsmatrix.com/...rticle&
sid=2449
Refugees from New Orleans behind barbed wire in Utah
Posted on Wednesday, September 07
Utah's Governor Jon Huntsman has taken in some of the New Orleans refugees, at Camp Williams. Replete with barbed wire, armed soldiers with weapons at ready, police and sheriff with weapons at ready, and hell, they must surely feel right at home. In America yet. What bulls**t! I’m not done with this outrage, not by a long
shot. I’m actually just getting started.
Denver Post even used this phrase about what is happening to the NOLA Detainees: Evacuees’ stories are moving, but fence isn't
Article Last Updated: 09/07/2005 03:37:49 AM
By Diane Carman http://www.denverpost.com/carman...rman/
ci_3006502
If I didn’t know better, I’d have thought I was peering through the fence at a concentration camp. (more)
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/ar...ves/
005403.php#
Thursday :: Sep 8, 2005
Welcome To George's Holiday Camp
Here we go again.
The other day, I wrote about Katrina evacuees being taken to Utah with no prior knowledge of their destination, and that they were reportedly being kept behind barbed wire.......
And then there is that report I have noted in recent days of the 1,000 evacuees flown to Roosevelt Roads naval base on Puerto Rico's eastern tip. What of them?
Please send questions to http://www.Congress.org/ and media: Why are Evacuees Being Sent to Puerto Rico Against Their Will? The Katrina Evacuees are being treated like POWs behind fences, not allowed to leave with heavy military guard.
Please investigate and help these survivors of Katrina who are being treated like Gitmo detainees. They haven't committed any crime! The following article has a photograph of two very unhappy, oppressed and worn looking women behind orange
fence.
http://www.thehungersite.com
Have you seen this? (Warning: source site Hal Turner is known for bigotry so, please don't let his personal views deminish this important message)
EXPLOSIVE RESIDUE FOUND ON FAILED LEVEE DEBRIS!
Ruptured New Orleans Levee had help failing
By: Hal Turner
September 9, 2005
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http://mediachannel.org/blog/nod...68#comment-
1314
Welcome to the world of the Great White Plantation.
AN EMPIRE WITHOUT PUMPS! CONSPIRACY TO CONDEMN NEW ORLEANS
September 11, 2005 - 2:40pm.
ONE SHOULD BE A FOOL TO BELIEVE THAT 11 days after hurricane an Empire who has everything at its disposal to destroy and rebuild the world does not have pumps to drain a city. Why Bush is not getting the pump started and instead orders the occupation and pacification of the city. Don't you get it this is America not somalia, Iraq or occupied Palestine! Why there is conspiracy of silence. People in
New Orleans need to get back home and pump the water otherwise the city would be condemnned. They don't need guns they need pumps to pump the water out in the canals and not into the lake.
NEW ORLEANS PACIFICATION: It Is Declared an “Enormous Success”
FARHAT MAQUAMI
Why the news media does not pay attention to the fact that the Administration did not want to save New Orleans otherwise it would have got the pumps working rather than making it a city under siege. It is an occupied territory. Why an Empire does not have pumps to drain and save the city? Neo-Cons went to secure and pacify the city and not to save it.
“This place is going to look like Little Somalia,” Brig. Gen. Gary Jones, commander of the Louisiana National Guard’s Joint Task Force told Army Times Friday as hundreds of armed troops under his charge prepared to launch a massive attack to regain the city. They found only dead bodies and helpless people that private agencies and good Samaritans were trying to help. No rebels, no massive gangs looting the houses!
Right from the beginning this was not a campaign to save the city and its citizens, otherwise they would get the pumps working. No wonder they uprooted the proud people of New Orleans and changed them into refugees in their own land.
On front page of http://www.democraticunderground.com today!
40 Dems ask Fitzgerald to to expand inquiry -- Administration's false statements to Congress
Sat Sep 17th 2005, 11:10 AM ET
Hinchey Leads Broad Congressional Coalition Calling For Expansion Of Plame Name Leak Investigation
Forty-One Members Of Congress Ask Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald To Examine Bush Administration's False Uranium Claims That Led To Disclosure Of CIA Operative's Identity To Determine If Additional Federal Laws Were Broken
Washington, D.C. - Troubled by what they see as violations of federal law that prohibit making false and fraudulent statements to Congress, Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) and 40 of his House colleagues today sent a letter to U.S. Attorney
Patrick Fitzgerald asking that he expand his investigation of who in the Bush Administration revealed to the news media that Valerie Plame, the wife of Ambassador Joseph Wilson, was a covert agent for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Hinchey and his colleagues urged Fitzgerald, who was designated as special prosecutor for the case, to examine the causes behind the exposure of Plame's identity -- specifically, the Bush Administration's false and fraudulent claims in January 2003 that Iraq had sought uranium for a nuclear weapon, which the Administration used as one of the key grounds to justify the invasion of Iraq.
"In order to fully investigate the disclosure of an undercover CIA agent's identity, it is clear that you should fully investigate the reasons for that disclosure," Hinchey and his colleagues wrote to Fitzgerald. "As we outline below, we believe that members of the Administration may have violated laws governing communications with Congress with respect to assertions about Iraq’s nuclear capabilities. Ambassador Wilson’s efforts to publicly contradict these assertions seem to be the reason for the uncovering of Mrs. Wilson’s identity. It is very likely that you would encounter these assertions during the course of your investigation, and thus their legality should be
the subject of your investigation."
Between January 20 and January 29, 2003, the Administration made a series of claims - which are now known to be false - that Iraq had sought uranium for nuclear weapons from Niger. These claims were at the very core of the president's final
justification for war, and apparently were made despite broad internal disagreement over their veracity. Joseph Wilson then exposed the Administration's lies in his New
York Times opinion piece on July 6, 2003. The desire to discredit Ambassador Wilson is the nearly-universally accepted motive behind the leaking of his wife's identity.
It is fully possible that the Bush Administration's claims of an Iraq-Niger connection were illegal - especially given the venues at which the claims were delivered (including President Bush's 2003 State of the Union Address before Congress). That fact, when combined with the link bet
Blackwater mercenaries in NOLA meant to intimidate Fitzgerald and everyone
who might bring the criminal bush regime down. email http://www.Congress.org and ask you Reps why illegally armed mercenaries are patrolling the streets in NOLA.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/
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The Second American Revolution
The deployment of mercenaries in New Orleans is an act of war against the American people
by Mike Whitney
September 16, 2005
Uruknet
(Image: Blackwater USA Training Center, "Where Professionals Train," in North Carolina. Link.)
The deployment of mercenaries onto the streets of New Orleans is an act of war against the American people. It has been accompanied by the equally provocative order to strip the remaining survivors of their "legally registered firearms", thus depriving them of the 2nd amendment rights.
Who appointed Bush as God?
The safety and security of the city's people is now in the hands of armed militias who have no allegiance to the Constitution and whose relationship to the government is uncertain. These hired goons are not required to conform to "The Military Code of Justice" or to any legal and moral restrictions governing the conduct of military personnel.
There is no scenario, neither natural disaster nor terrorist attack, which justifies the use of paid killers on the streets of America's cities.
None!
(more with photo)
this just reminds me of the bit of kurb that showed that there was another bullet fired at Kennedy in Dallas. Remember what happened to that, the FBI showed up cut out the kurb and "lost" it. Seems the Americans are trying to cover devious acts of terrorism yet again.
Just because 10,000 journalists on the scene don't report something doesn't mean it didn't happen. There are things that go on below their radar, other things they can't source, and times they can't believe their own eyes. They are sometimes exhausted, frequently misdirected, coached, coaxed, pre-edited, edited, indoctrinated, intimidated and always on deadline. And they all cover the same little parts of the same big stories because they are herd animals--they can be led to water and made to drink.
After reading the Xymphora article do you think we got the real picture from 10,000 reporters in New Orleans?
Please.....don't report on what you don't know.....I was there....you are blowing all out of proportion....looting was heavy and many were shot....so what!!! This is news???
The tragety is the rabblerousing of the Jessee Jacksons et al who are determined to make the criminals madder and crazier and then get shot.
I have lived in New Orleans for 60 years and know the city and what happened....go home all you idiot reporters who lie because they are too chicken to talk to the right people....what you hear is maybe 15% correct.
Grow up and work on your stupidity.
JKD
"Grow up and work on your stupidity."
Huh?
The "shooting looters" stories struck me as false right off the bat. So, "looters" who survived a hurricane, haven't eaten for a week, and are probably dying from some disease, have banded together and are shooting rescuers? And for what reason, may I ask? What are they gaining from shooting rescuers?
I'm not saying I know exactly what's happening, but there are no looters shooting at rescue workers, use your head! Those stories were cover for any non-New Orleans residents shooting people!!! That is obvious.
You people are f-ing nuts theorizing about crazy half-assed conspiracies that W is too stupid to even dream about. Even his henchmen cannot concieve of these things. Get some REAL lives people!
"You people are f-ing nuts theorizing about crazy half-assed conspiracies that W is too stupid to even dream about. Even his henchmen cannot concieve of these things. Get some REAL lives people!"
Ahhh....the Genius speaks! And the World is still flat! And man will never walk on the Moon, and the Sun is the one true God!
Let me ask you something - Why are you reading this site? I suppose you abhore porn (but have a stash in your home) Yes? Ever heard of the "Theory" of relativity?
Have your "Ol Lady" go get you another beer and slice of Pizza (to drip sauce on your T-shirt) while you watch Smack-Down. Doh!
So now the whites are blowing up leavys and trying to do away with all blacks in the major cities. Grow up and get rid of your racist mentalities. It is because of people like you that racism still exist. Look around blacks and whites are still working/living side by side and doing their best to overcome the hatred that you are trying to breed just so you can cary on your hate for mankind
You had better look around. The hispanic population is growing three times as faster that any other race. Soon They will be the majority. They are taking over major cities all over the US and the jobs. So are you still going to try and blame the whites for your ptoblems then. Get educated and get jobs. get involved in your government and help fix it from the inside and not by making up excuses. The blame for New Orleans starts with the local govenmnet who were to worrried about losing their jobs and not getting nmoney in their pockets. It was the city's responsibility to have a plan to evacuate the city and provide food, water, shelter and security for the pepole. Not come up with a last minite get out of town notice and then lie about everyone being out. The had the means to evacute the poor, ederly and handicap. Did they do it NO. The desided to take care of themselves and leave everybody else to fend for themself. Only when the blame might come back on them do they start screaming at the Federal government and putting the blame on them. The mayor is the loudest. Note it was his job to ensure the city had a plan. Not just put every body in a dome. You want the federal government to get more involved. So be it they are not looking at changing the rules of use and engaement of federal troops in your backyards. I'll bet you will cry then too and try to put the blame someone else as usual. STOP POINTING FINGERS> GET INVOLVED WITH YOUR GOVERNMENT AND HELP FIX THE PROBLEMS> DONT CONTINUE TO JUST POINT FINGERS AND CRY> YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!
Regarding "getting educated", c compton wrote:
"You had better look around. The hispanic(SIC) population is growing three times as faster(SIC) that(SIC) any other race. Soon They will be the majority. They are taking over major cities all over the US and the jobs.(FRAGMENT) So are you still going to try and blame the whites for your ptoblems then.(PUNCUATION) Get educated and get jobs. get involved in your government and help fix it from the inside and(DELETE, then insert comma) not by making up excuses. The blame for New Orleans starts with the local govenmnet(SIC) who were to worrried(SIC) about losing their jobs and not getting nmoney(SIC) in their pockets. It was the city's responsibility to have a plan to evacuate the city and provide food, water, shelter and security for the pepole.(DELETE PERIOD, ADD COMMA) Not(SIC) come up with a last minite(SIC) get out of town notice and then lie about everyone being out. The(SIC) had the means to evacute the poor, ederly(SIC) and handicap(SIC). Did they do it NO.(QUESTION MARK, SEMI-COLON, PERIOD) The desided(SIC) to take care of themselves and leave everybody else to fend for themself.(SIC) Only when the blame might come back on them do they start screaming at the Federal government and putting the blame on them. The mayor is the loudest. Note (THAT) it was his job to ensure the city had a plan.(DELETE PERIOD, ADD COMMA) Not(SIC) just put every body in a dome. You want the federal government to get more involved.(PUNCTUATION) So be it(PUNCUATION) they are not looking at changing the rules of use and engaement of federal troops in your backyards. I'll bet you will cry then too and try to put the blame someone else as usual. STOP POINTING FINGERS>(PUNCUATION) GET INVOLVED WITH YOUR GOVERNMENT AND HELP FIX THE PROBLEMS>(PUNCUATION) DONT CONTINUE TO JUST POINT FINGERS AND CRY>(PUNCUATION) YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!"
While I don't disgree with you "C", I think your arguments might have more credibility if you were to tidy-up the delivery of the written word. My notes (above) only highlight some of the errors as the grammatical errors and run-on and fragmentary sentences are too numerous to address here.
Cheers!
"For certain, the Danzinger Bridge is nowhere near the breaches nor should the industrial area be a magnet for looters looking for television sets."
The Danziger Bridge connects the Mississippi to Lake Pontchartrain via the Industrial Canal. The Industrial Canal was the location of a major levee breach. When almost all of New Orleans East was flooded, it was likely the only place people could take to get to the area on foot.
In addition, statistical data on ethnic makeup in New Orleans can be found at www.gnocdc.org.
Do some research.
The following article might be related to the above incident and shed some light. Not sure if it is related or not,..but certainly seems plausible.
"A possibly deadly incident involving Quinn's hired guns underscores the dangers of private forces policing American streets. On his second night in New Orleans, Quinn's security chief, Michael Montgomery, who said he worked for an Alabama company called Bodyguard and Tactical Security (BATS), was with a heavily armed security detail en route to pick up one of Quinn's associates and escort him through the chaotic city. Montgomery told me they came under fire from "black gangbangers" on an overpass near the poor Ninth Ward neighborhood. "At the time, I was on the phone with my business partner," he recalls. "I dropped the phone and returned fire."
Montgomery says he and his men were armed with AR-15s and Glocks and that they unleashed a barrage of bullets in the general direction of the alleged shooters on the overpass. "After that, all I heard was moaning and screaming, and the shooting stopped. That was it. Enough said."
Then, Montgomery says, "the Army showed up, yelling at us and thinking we were the enemy. We explained to them that we were security. I told them what had happened and they didn't even care. They just left." Five minutes later, Montgomery says, Louisiana state troopers arrived on the scene, inquired about the incident and then asked him for directions on "how they could get out of the city." Montgomery says that no one ever asked him for any details of the incident and no report was ever made."
Full article:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/200...0051010/
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KATRINA BRIDGE SHOOTINGS..Whatever happened to that story ...
Does anyone else remember the news stories about the shootout on the bridge where the police shot and killed contractors on the Danziger Bridge? What happened to that original AP story? The story seemed to change quickly with no cogent explanation, or any explanation, as to why? The Daniziger Bridge crosses a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain to the Mississippi river.
The Guardian reported that the police shot at eight men "carrying guns" killing five or six. Likewise the Associated Press of Sept 4 reports "Earlier Sunday, New Orleans Deputy Police Cheif W.J Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six." Contractors were alleged to be the victims by spokesman John Hall.
'"The contractors were walking across a bridge on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to fix the 17th Street Canal, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Corps.
Earlier Sunday, New Orleans Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.'
A report by the Australian also carries the original report of five military dead at the hands of police.
The original AP story quickly disappeared and was replaced by a version that included the fallen military men but rather that the police were now protecting the contractors from looters... contradicting all previous reports- This discrepancy was left unmentioned by the Mainstream Media who jumped on the cleansed version. What is it that the contractors were doing that would warrant an armed confrontation with police? While I do not, by any means, think this is the most major story of New Orleans it is highly unusual.
There are a host of Serious allegations that FEMA faces and go far deeper that the incompetence of Micheal Brown and any number of questions into their conduct arise:
Why did FEMA jam communications in New Orleans?
Why were vitally needed supplies turned Away?
Why were ham radio and short wave radio signals being jammed?
The story when tied to other of the happenings after Katrina hit New Orleans does beg serious questions.
I recently found a report in the LA Times that was run on the eighteenth of Septmember story.(full story here) Is this what passes as a cover story these days? From LA times. I found it on freerepublic.com hmm.... The writing itself is horrible...Can the LA Times really be this bad? One thing that pops out right away as being fishy with this story is that the Guardian Report above says they spoke to the police chief 'earlier Sunday' when he said that the police had killed five or six men. A Cop's Story says clearly that it was Sunday Night when he received the call 'for back-up'?
The Unvanquished: A Cop's Story
By David Zucchino
Times Staff Writer
September 18, 2005
On the night of Sunday, Sept. 4, Hartman said he was summoned to back up officers confronting at least seven snipers in a motel near the Danziger Bridge. Po
How do they bury a story like this and no one misses the bodies?
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http://infowars.net/articles/
dec...31205Levees.htm
Mila
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The whole story and the fact that the cops in question have turned themselves in today only further proves that the police will LIE to protect themselves and their "brothers".
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Reading through this blog entry and the comments, it's quite easy to tell none of you know much about katrina or new orleans in general. As a survivor of Katrina and a life long 9th ward resident of new orleans east, I was dumbfounded by the idiotic conspiracy theories thrown around. They make no sense at all. Why did levees fail? NO, not explosives, they failed because they weren't built right in the first place or because they were simply overtopped by surge (I have pictures to prove this). Why does the story change so much, because its a big cover up??? No, because it was in the middle of a disaster and communications systems failed(hate to say this but comm towers and 15 feet of water don't mix well) I know several cops who stayed here during the aftermath,and find it disgusting that you have the audacity to sit here and bad mouth the officers that were on that bridge or that stayed behind in this city. You all talk about civil rights/liberties and how everyone was begin treated horribly wrong ,but what about those officers rights to a fair trial? Have you forgotten about innocent until proven guilty? were ANY of you there that day, on that bridge? Have any of you ever been shot at before? I think not. Maybe they were wrong, maybe they were right to shoot those men, none of us personally know. When your life is in jeopardy, you react to the best of your abilities, and don't have weeks and months and years to sit and think about that situation as it's happening. You either react or you die.
also, why would the contractors want a n armed escort? Simply because the city had criminals freely roaming around. It's already an established fact that New Orleans has one of the highest murder rates in the country. They have some really bad people living here, and *gasp* bad people do bad things when given the opportunity they will not be caught. Also, its already stated that idiot thugs and gunmen were firing at rescue helicopters and at rescue workers for no real reason than to just cause further disruption.
Also, why would levees and flood walls be purposely destroyed??? To run off the "poor black" minority of the city??? Not really. The city is probably majority black, or really close to it. I'm honestly not sure at this time. Either way not a good reason. Simply because one of the areas destroyed by Katrina was the lakeview area of the city, which is predominantly white, middle-upper class families. If the point was to rid new orleans of minorities why would "they" blow up the 17th street canal levee which poured directly into the lakeview area??? OR, why did "they" also flush out residents of St. Bernard parish which had in some parts of it over 20 feet of water and is once again predominantly white? Is this another bigger part of the ever widening cover up? Or what about the fact that the 9th ward wasn't flooded from only a barge breaking through a levee, surge also overtopped the levees because of the water rushing through the
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