"The international body should ... license a logo which complying businesses can put on their products so that decent human beings can buy them"
How about a yellow star of David?
Just kidding. I agree it's serious but I'm not convinced boycotting is the answer since, just like sanctions, it's a response aimed at hurting the wrong people. It would be useful only in conveying to ordinary Israelis the extent of opposition to the tactics of their government.
Boycotts are the opposite of sanctions, politically speaking - boycotts are the product of grass roots pressure, sanctions are the acts of governments. Boycotts work - consider apartheid.
Since mid last week, my own extended family (two generations) have agreed upon a boycott. If some of the wrong people are 'hurt,' that's unfortunate. Sort of economic, colateral damage, eh?
Tough. At least any victims are unlikely to die or be maimed. I'm certain that they'll "get over it."
I agree with the boycott as a practicable, relatively easy thing, still available for an average citizen, what he/she still can do, without too much hussle.
May I add, that primary candidates for it, beside the usual businesees, are all their lying media. Nothing I would like to see better, in this context than let's say the television or newspaper subscriptions would suddenly drop half, or more. I would much prefer for example, over let's say Swartz's local deli, is suddenly struggling to kep himself alive.
I have cancelled my television subscription last week and the same goes for their printed media. These are all beyond hope, so just let the Zionists buy them.
We got to peel off, the majority of the Diaspora Jews (even for their own benefit and survival)to mindlessly follow their corrupt leadership who leads them into another catastrophe.
Kudos again for Xymph. to thinking in practical terms and solutions.
But I don't praise him anyfurther, because than he would have to pay me.
Oh sorry, one more thing, I also decided, that all the savings from my cancelled tv and newspaper subscriptions will go to selected blogsites from next month on, who are perpetually short of money and struggling to stay afloat, starting with Daryl Bradford Smith, Kurt Nimmo and a few others.
You can surely distinguish between schwartz' deli, which as such bears no direct relation to the state of israel, and its sale of products imported from there, which you can selectively boycott.
I just spotted this, via a remark somewhere by margaret griffis:
"Defense officials told the Post last week that they were receiving indications from the US that America would be interested in seeing Israel attack Syria." JPost, Sunday, 30 July (yesterday) final paragraph.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat...rticle/
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identifying and neutralizing jewish centers of business and decision ? lets just state that the jews mean crap in the bigger picture. the crimes of israel are *against* jewry everywhere and obviously *designed* to stir up hate against jews (not that that in any way diminishes the culpability of the diaspora communities).
lets start at the top and work down from there:
- The English Royal family
- The Rothschild clan
- The Rockefeller clan
- The Catholic Church, especially the Jesuits
- All associates of above
- All business entities controlled directly and indirectly by above
Once these centers of power and ideology are neutralized, the rest of the murderous bunch should be easy prey because neutralizing these centers of power means "zionism" and "judaism" will lose what energizes them as ideologies. with no money backing the ideology (religion if you want), jews will cease to exist as "jews". i doubt that "jews" with what a status that amounts to "upper middle class" or higher bourgeoisy would be game to sink too much money into the delusions of psychopaths.
To claim that the british royal family, and/or the jesuits, are at the centre of the web of the global new order, is just as obtuse as to claim that 'the Jews' are.
Useful boycott data (uk based):
http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott...ott-
israel.html
OK, "targetted" boycotting certainly seems much more valid, particularly against companies such as listed on the website Rowan pointed out. The only problem being that I've already boycotted most of them for various other reasons (environmental, health, actions in the third world, etc... or in the case of Disney because their films are just crap!).
So I'd add the suggestion of preferentially sourcing products from Lebanon and Palestine. Not so easy except in specialty shops I guess, but for example, http://www.zaytoun.org/ sells Fair Trade Olives from Palestine.
Why don't we ask some of the rabbis who are absolutely outraged over this entire situation? There are two large groups that say that Zionism and Israel's land lust are affronts to the Torah. Let's make a list. I love olives personally, so I am more than willing to buy olives and other products from Palestine or resell them on my site (when it's up.)
Thanks R.B. You had a good point, on that selective boycott in the dilemma surrounding that hypothetical business of Schwartz.
I also fully agree with you dismissing that Jesuit and Catholic red herring, advocated by that 'barking dog'.
I will expect all sort of attempts to derail, diffuse, deflect us to focusing on the perennial culprit and villain of these cases of Human suffering, namely the Zionists and their enablers.
Their reaction actually be an indirect proof, that we will getting closer where it hurts. Their squeeling of 'anti-Semitism' and all the other tired, old tactics of intimidation, will serve us as a guidance to 'honing on' on them more precisely.
I announced my own divestment program a few months ago, deciding then to purge all of my consumer purchases that had an Israeli component to them. The learning curve has been steep - but fun, though I can't profess to inflicting much of a dent in the Israeli economy.
As well, I committed myself to recruit others to boycott the purchase of Israeli related consumer goods. So far I have 3 on board and we share product boycott lists with each other.
Perhaps of more significance is the fact that I have sold off all of my equity holdings in companies with various forms of Israeli corporate involvement. But of most significance, I have completely dropped all of my equity positions in U.S corporations - all of them. This U.S. divestment process began 2 years ago. To date, I have pulled over USD 16 million out of the U.S. market, not including the pending sale of my Miami shack for USD 5+ million.
I cannot have my money working and supporting two economies of such blatantly murderous proportions. More importantly, I do not want to take the risk of profiting from any of these countries horrible activities.
My problem now is that I am heavy in cash and trying to figure out where to place it and remain 'clean'.
My path to boycott started with myself. It was the fastest way I could act. Convincing others takes time and I never was a good Mormon missionary. In fact, I opted out of it all because of the missionary detail.
I agree that Israel is beyond hope.
As for a 'solution', although a boycott of Jewish interests may make those who bother feel good, it isn't a terribly practical measure.
Principally because those same 'Jewish interests' include almost all the mass media in western countries, with the result that _most_ people are simply unaware of what is really going on. And will remain unaware of a boycott, or why they should help. Or even why something needs to be done about the media itself.
Sadly, since its only a small proportion of the population who are net-aware enough to realise that things have become desperate, it looks like the only action that will 'work', may be the traditional last resort.
Violence.
I've been a bit taken aback by Micah Marshall's shilling for Israel. Same goes for Aravosis at Americablog. They're all "we hate Bush" but Israel can do no wrong. And of course we all hate because you are free aren't you.
How? The bastards have insinuated themselves into every aspect of our lives. They control their neighbours through Weaponry, and they control us through money. They're everywhere.
30 July 2006
A Lebanese Shia explains how Hezbollah uses human shields
Judeoscope
In a letter to the editor of the Berlin left-wing daily Die Tageszeitung (TAZ) a Lebanese Shia explains how after Israel’s withdrawal from South Lebanon, Hezbollah stored rockets in bunkers in his town and built a school and residence over it.
I lived until 2002 in a small southern village near Mardshajund that is inhabited by a majority of Shias like me. After Israel left Lebanon, it did not take long for Hezbollah to take have its say in other towns. Received as successful resistance fighters and armed to the teeth, they stored rockets in bunkers in our town as well. The social work of the Party of God consisted in building a school and a residence over these bunkers! A local sheikh explained to me laughing that the Jews would lose in any event because the rockets would either be fired at them or if they attacked the rockets depots, they would be condemned by world opinion on account of the dead civilians. These people do not care about the Lebanese population, they use them as shields, and, once dead, as propaganda. As long as they continue existing there, there will be no tranquility and peace.
Dr. Mounir Herzallah
Berlin-Wedding
(translated from the German
Xymph:
You have correctly identified the cause of the world's problem - sort of 
Behind Zionism and the Satanic leadership of Israel and the United States (including poodle UK), lurks the Devil, himself. Only the Devil and his worshippers could perpetrate such Evil! Nothing can stop the coming Depression in America and then globally. That's part of the plan - executed by Zionists controlling the Fed Reserve (first Greenspan and now Bernanke). 911, planned and executed by Mossad and Neocon (Zionist) controlled agents in the Pentagon, set the stage for a Neo-Fascist regime in America and for the global NWO. The Matrix is alive and well and is controlling the world right now! (including 'elections'). Both Republican and Democratic parties are infiltrated and run by Zionists - through bribery or extortion or blackmail. What to do?
Resistance at a collective (Civil Disobedience and a Boycott of Zionist interests) and individual level (Lt. Ehren Watada) is essential and can be very powerful. Unfortunately, most people will not be moved into action until their personal pain becomes unbearable and they have 'nothing left to lose' but the lives of their loved ones or their own life. Some will be moved to action when their physical/economic survival is threatened.
Crunch time for the world will arrive shortly. In the greater scheme of things, the coming showdown at High Noon will be the final confrontation between Good and Evil, Light and Darkness, God and Satan (the Great Deceiver). Each person must choose where they will stand.
For a more complete analysis of our situation (apparently dire but ultimately a release from tyranny for humanity), visit http://www.novalight.org and many hidden things will be unveiled. There is still Time, brother, to choose the side of Light - but precious little :O
The Holocaust Industry is finished.
Terra Hertz...feeling good about oneself ain't to be discounted. In fact, it's difficult to get any constructive shit done without harbouring feelings of reasonable selfworth. The radical nature of my divestment plan has made quite an impression on friends, family, and financial service hacks who, despite their decent wealth and impressive enuff educations, have a rather MSM view of the going-ons of this fractured world of ours. I can't say i've shook their foundations but I do know they are rattled enough by my focused actions to pay attention to certain developments in a way somewhat out of their previous character. In fact, I kow of no other who has pursued my course of action, and done so with such considerable wealth.
And sure, the webs of influence and ownership is complex, but the use of violence also demands target acquisition research so sticking to bullets instead of capital flight as a method for your body to employ doesn't denude you of the requirement to identify hard targets. And hey, I'm human and I welcome complex tasks. In fact undertaking complex tasks is helps me remain human.
Jeff - there might be some or none or even considerable truth in your posted piece: but that doesn't change the fact that it is a wandering blog testimonial of fictitious origin. Those things abound and I'm surprised you haven't pegged it for what it is...crap. Shove it up your pasty ass, ya crooked shill/bonehead.
(I hope Iv'e speeld lots of things wrong here along with my standard typos. Wouldn't wanna to leave Rowan without his daily fare of WonderBread)
um ... what about the Pentium processor?
The 'barking dog' has found the right tree - Congratulations! 
Paul,
I have the same observation s you re Americablog and Josh...
I knew Aravosis is a whinner butI thought Josh was a bit more serious and dedicated blogger.
Oh BTW, thanks for the link Rowan.
I would agree that the underlying problem is "Lebanon's lack of control over the belligerent militia controlling its southern border". But I don't agree the belligerent militia is the one Josh thinks.
The really problematic belligerent militia is the one that systematically violates the Lebanese border to carry out assassinations, incursions, bombing raids, sonic booms etc, and is pissed at Hizbollah's ability to exercise even minimal deterrence against it.
to Rowan Berkeley and others:
I named the groups and institutions above because I believe them for various reasons to be the backers of Zionism. I suggest you check for yourself before calling me 'obtuse', and I am sorry if I am giving the impression that I want to derail this necessary discussion. That is not my intention, but to get to the roots of the problem.
I think that if we don't look very attentively at those putatively "outside" Zionism but still covertly support their depredations, we'll have some other, possibly worse, kind of criminal ideology in place as soon as Zionism goes down in flames.
Sorry for the conmotion.
The Nuclear Option of Krystallnacht: You're nuts Xymphora.
What you are advocating is exactly what extremist Israelis dream about and hope for. It is why Hezbollah is popular in Lebanon right now too. Each extremist side gains points by showing how very wronged they are, how much more sinned against than sinning. They develop a magnetic appeal to the weak and wronged.
In the immediate post-Holocaust era, otherwise nice people cheered on the Irgun.
You are trying to mobilize anti-Semitism in order to oppose what you regard as the excessive influence of Israeli policies on the US and the English-speaking world in general.
There are better ways. Start with a demand for impartial justice, even-handed honest broker justice.
The way you propose is the way of fools.
Oh and by the way: I think it is perfectly acceptable to cancel your newspaper subscription or cable service and tell them why. CNN is a prime villain, in my opinion, in its biased coverage of all aspects of the GWOT. But the basis for the cancellation is not based on anti-semitism.
would you care to define "anti-semitism"? perhaps you could give us some indication of why you find it useful to deliberately use a word that precipitates us back into the worst racist misconceptions of the nineteenth century?
This part of your suggestion seems appallingly Stalinist -- not to mention likely to backfire:
"Boycotting Jewish businesses sounds entirely unfair, and it is. There should be a way out. We need some kind of international body to identify all Jewish-owned or -controlled businesses and allow them to escape the boycott by making a public statement disclaiming Zionism and Israeli violence, preferably coupled with a generous contribution to humanitarian relief for the victims of Zionist violence. The international body should be able to certify if a business is subject to the boycott or not, and should license a logo which complying businesses can put on their products so that decent human beings can buy them."
Asking Jews to denounce other Jews is like assuming that bombing Lebanon will get the Lebanese to denounce Hezbollah. Beleaguered groups tend to pull together when under assault. And the apparatus you suggest, of international bodies and approved logos, verges on the pornographic.
On the other hand, anything that squeezes the Jewish business community as a whole is far more likely to cause that community -- privately but in unison -- to rethink where its real interests lie and in what corners it should use its considerable influence.
Beyond that, call me hopelessly old-fashioned, but I can't help thinking the real issues in all this are economic ones and have very little to do with religion or even with Jewish paranoia. The fact that Israel is probably not a viable economic unit -- at least as long as it erects walls between itself and its natural trading partners in the area -- and that it is particularly terrified of being cut off from sources of oil. The increasing social divisions in Israel over the last 30 years since it started moving away from its original egalitarianism and towards Likudnik free market anarchy. The equivalent social divisions in Lebanon, with the Shi'ites at the bottom of the pile and the Christians and Sunnis at the top.
A boycott may be a very blunt weapon, but at least it would have the advantage of focusing attention on where the real issues lie.
FYI, israeli barcode numbers begin with 729.
The Spider has spun its deadly Web and much of the world is trapped comatose in it! The Spider is feeding on the blood and souls of the trapped and helpless victims. The cumulative effect of years of injections of mind and soul-destroying poison by the Zionist-controlled Mainstream Media has taken its toll and the options for escape are few, collectively or individually. The Spider must be killed!
The Spider is located in Israel and the deadly brood of baby spiders has spun other Webs throughout the world, particularly in the USA, in Germany, in Canada and in the UK (among many other places).
Who can and will kill the Spider? It's a task not even Superman can handle :O
So, who does that leave to rescue humanity? (No, not Obe Won Kanobe!)
"There are better ways. Start with a demand for impartial justice, even-handed honest broker justice."
But there is were we all started, years ago, specially Ximph. Are you running an 8086?
The people who thought "thenewrepublican" Micah is on the "impartial justice" side are definitely running eniacs!
One problem with a boycott is identifying pro-Zionist companies correctly.
We all know that the Starbucks CEO is a Zionist. But how do we maintain a credible list? The list on the site that Rowan posted is too short.
Also a few people not drinking Starbucks might not have an impact on their bottom line. They might not even notice. So we can complement the boycott by handing them little notes which indicate that we are boycotting them because of their support for Zionism.
Another question: how do we spread the word about this boycott?
"There are better ways. Start with a demand for impartial justice, even-handed honest broker justice."
Good theory, Musings. Trouble is, the people we left in charge of these things have been hijacked. I'm refering to Guantanamo, Extraordinary Rendition, Abu Ghraib and the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act etc. I had my doubts when you leapt to the defense of the terrorist myth. Now you seem to be advocating cloying ineffectualism by describing active and practical alternatives as foolish. But I think RB just nailed you...
Even if the boycott has no economic impact, just the threat of a boycott will shock the enablers of Israel. It will make them rethink their unconditional support of Israel's war-crimes.
I know this sounds like a stereotype, but a boycott should put more fear of God into the Zionists hearts than a flurry of Katyushas.
http://www.break.com/movies/
peri...sing_jdate.html
Lemme see here: 729 (7+2=9 and 2+9=11)
Huh! - imagine that, it adds up :O
The Devil does relish playing the occult numbers game
"Who can and will kill the Spider? It's a task not even Superman can handle :O So, who does that leave to rescue humanity?"
Hezbollah?
MJ:
Hmmmmmmmm.......Hezbollah, huh?!
Let's see if they can rescue Lebanon and we'll go from there, OK?!
What's that you say, "Humanity has already been rescued!"
Well I'll be! :O Can you tell me more? What! - you saw it clear as a bell at http://www.novalight.org ?
The issue of fairness is easier to think about in the context of a cultural boycott. Here the target is frankly admitted to be the offending society in its entirety, and "collateral damage" is accepted as an unavoidable cost of action. When the South African football team was not allowed to play on European soil, or South African athletes were not allowed to compete in the Olympics, there were undoubtedly individual athletes affected who opposed apartheid. Yet the boycott was almost universally adopted (except in Israel).
Boycotts at any given moment scapegoat the visible targets, as opposed to all the possible targets that are more obscure and not yet visible. This is just in the nature of things. Fairness would require omniscience.
Oh No. I hope that all of the people on this page don't stop buying matzoh balls and gefilte fish! That would just cripple the economy.
Keep whining.
Qana was not a massacre. It was an accident. Colateral damage shit like that happens.
I certainly would emphasize that no one there deserved to die.
If you harbor terrorists, and keep missles in your basement, something bad is eventually going to happen to you.
"If you harbor terrorists, and keep missles in your basement, something bad is eventually going to happen to you."
Who would have thought a Zio-troll would be predicting the end of the Jewish state?
OT: Israel seems intent on drawing Syria into its war against Lebanon.
"Another airstrike hit the main Lebanese-Syrian border crossing for the third time in as many days, the army and witnesses said. Israel said the strike targeted a truck importing weapons from Syria. It said the strike was in Lebanese territory.
But Lebanese police officials said two missiles struck near a vehicle carrying relief supplies near the customs post at Masnaa, wounding four people and a customs officer."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14100258/
I have on my website a bar code /gif I took of Wayne Madsen's site (which he has now removed.
I am working on a logo of a Jaffa orange / grapefruit with a knife stabbed into it oozing blood from the cut. My ideas outrun my skills - someone may be more capable.
- Bimbo Bibi....Rob a bank and a bystander gets killed by one of your crews stray bullets - and you are just the getaway driver - well Bimboid Bibi, you are going down for murder...not collateral damage or an accident. Fuck the Israeli murders of innocents.
Pop Tart bitch will evidently remain a Pop Tart bitch.
- Rowan, who says a boycott need be naive in its target acquisition and miss shadowed coordinates?
PS Sorry Monsieur Xymphy for cluttering your pages but Tide just can't tackle my spots. Such annoyances seem to be part n parcel of my nature.
Oh yeah, I'm really nailed. To the cross. So much for Qana. Should never have done that switcheroo on the water.
When I talk about terrorism and about who crossed over into Israel/Lebanon, I was inclined to credit the many conspiracy theorists who just knew it was actually Israelis going into Lebanon. Seemed to make sense. But then I saw Fouad Siniora say - with both Kofi Annan and Condi present - that it was actually Hezbollah which first entered Israel.
Believing something which is false from the get-go makes you a total target of the extremist persuasion. You play into the spider's hands if you will.
Of COURSE Israel deliberately bombed the UN position. There are plenty of witnesses to that. Of COURSE Israel did a second massacre at Qana, in a deliberate move to harm the helpless Shi'ites stuck in their manmade hell.
Just because I come out against a foolish plan to harm people because of their enthnicity, over which no one has control, I'm a wicked spy.
If you are going to be such brownshirts, you are going to go down in a Nuremberg trial one day., You aren't smart enough to outsmart the Jews.
By threatening innocents, you are going to be hoist by your own petard.
But not that the old guard Republicans in the US are in counter-attack mode. They don't like to see Bolsheviks running our government. They fear the sloppy smarmy creeping totalitarianism which is bad for business. They want to interject a new mideast envoy in the person of Colin Powell or James Baker. Yes, those men have been corrupt in their day. What powerful men haven't been? But I will stand by them before I will stand up for discrimination against Jewish businesses in order to give power to Israel. Because it will give them more power than ever.
Upon the Ziz I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against her/him. The wittiest of the bunch by far.
My favorite aspect of the "Greater Israel" wet dream, is that if it ever does become a reality, all those chosen assholes will be sucking down the depleted uranium that's been vaporized all over Iraq, southern Lebanon, and wherever else Israel's not-sees throw their tantrums. You reap what you sow!
jewish owned businesses? What does that mean? Your suggestion is absurd as a practical matter alone.
Just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean they are Zionist, they might in fact be fundamentalist terrorist muslims, but signing a statement. I have never heard anything so weird from you before.
I agree with musings to the extent that the only hint of an effective resistance to the Zionist takeover is coming from the old conservatives. And I too will stand with them.
But I don't understand your objection to a boycott. Are you saying it is immoral or just counterproductive? Are you also against a boycott of businesses located in Israel?
Emmy Uno,
I guess the "Uno" represents the number of functioning brain cells that you own.
Robbing a bank is a crime.
Killing terrorists is not.
It's just about that simple.
Lebanon Consolation:
When Bush goes to hell (not soon enough), there won't be a 'Cease-Fire', either :O
trouvere - I have to credit ziz with a decent idea. No more "blood" oranges. Getting up little stickers to place, surreptitiously on the odd Jaffa.
This is about water, and the global market in produce which uses water, as well as lifestyles in hot climates which demand taking that water from others.
I lived in a more modest southern California and a much more modest Las Vegas, in which farmers dug their own wells. The conflicts with Mexico over water resources are being played out - perhaps in the children of farmers voting with their feet to enter the abundant land of the north. Yet there are those which would Palestinianize them, something I cannot accept.
The Litani keeps coming up in discussions of Israel's "security." This is an admission of sorts.
JESUS WEPT!- as he probably did in Qana, where he turned water into 'wine', or if he'd seen the latest massacre (only the second in a decade).
The situation is becoming so obscene that that anybody who raises any small voice against the well-known politicians (Blair and Bush) but more against their ventriloquists (Cheney, Netanyahu, etc) will have a good chance in the forthcoming Rapture.
I promise ya, buddies!
Still not following you, musings. If Israel's expansionism is motivated by thirst and not racism, why does that make a boycott less acceptable to you?
Were you against the South African boycott?
trouvere - Israel's expansionism is not motivated by thirst. It is motivated by the usual greed for more resources. Reason not the need. Their treatment of other people is heartless, and the problem is that their attitude seems contagious in the USA. The utter callousness of Katrina, the border follies, the downward slide into frank white supremacy, egged on by the neocon crowd who like nothing more than to have a muscle-bound America to do their bidding.
The Americans by and large have no common history or common cause with those who run Israel today. Their attitudes come straight from Eastern Europe and Russia with no period of having lived in prosperity and freedom in a multicultural environment such as the Jewish idyll in New York City and LA. They are paranoid and heartless. In the US most Jews are not supporters of the neocon cause, but they are somehow galvanized by terror attacks (as on 9/11) to concede points to them where human rights (of which they were once champions) are concerned. I know that I paint with a broad brush, but this is my general impression.
Therefore, if you come down in the totalitarian way Xymphora suggests, of creating what is in essence a "loyalty oath" as the price of running a business if you are Jew, you simply polarize people. You become Joe McCarthy and rouse memories of the Dreyfus trial. Why would anyone want to be so left-wing they are right-wing? It would so gladden the hearts of the neocons if one took this position. I hope that Canadians and Europeans are not stupid enough to go down that road because of Israel's very real aggression, which must be dealt with DIRECTLY.
"The Americans [Jews] by and large have no common history or common cause with those who run Israel today."
I disagree that American Jews do not support Israel's policies. You are living in a dream world. (Go ahead and mention a few American Jews in positions of influence within the media who have used their power to oppose Israeli expansionism. It will be a very short list.) Jewish "identity" trumps the idyll of prosperity and freedom any day. It's worth remembering that a large percentage of the settler population is not from the shtetl but from Brooklyn.
You still haven't answered whether you could see fit to boycott businesses inside Israel. Or whether you approved of the South African boycott.
It would be simpler and easier to identify those companies that are NOT controlled by Zionists, there are less of them in this world.
If your paypacket is paid directly into a bank, you are Zionist controlled!
Bibi baby
robbing a bank is not a fuzzy action. Robbing is robbing and a bank is a bank
A terrorist...well, where should I begin. Let it suffice to say that terrorist, especially in the presnt clime, is a rather fuzzy word. Heck, half the founding fathers of Israel were labelled terrorists...but now I'm really delving into bimboidal territory having just felt necessitated to enlighten you of that.
Goodness me, it really isn't sexy to hear a chic-a-dee clamor for murder. Quite ugly actually.
Well, my Israeli-Barcode-Boycott-Blog is now online.
Ah, so much hatred.
Keep up the good work.
Xymph, post the ISP of that sucker and we'll all send complaints.
Was Sharon born in Brooklyn? How about Olmert? Yes, Golda Meir was at one time American, but I believe she had come here from Russia or somewhere. She was a real leftist - maybe even a commie.
There are American Jews who go to Israel and get the brainwash treatment. There are people who like to go slumming in third world dictatorships too, and who come back singing the praises of the dictator.
If you are having a good time, you don't compare and contrast the forms of government. I don't know how long it's been since I took in the Elysee Palace or the Assemble Nationale when I visited France. I cannot think of how long it's been since I looked into Britain's libel laws or examined their policies about IRA suspects.
If you are in Israel when a pizza place blows up or you see bloodied buses or a bunch of teens in line for a concert get mowed down you tend to think their policies towards members of terror organizations must be appropriate. But maybe you'd have different views if you knew the politicians and lived with their policies in the US. Which I think, until 9/11, was the way. Now I think there is a creeping acceptance of what for want of a better word I can only call privileged treatment for those who do not fall into the ethnic categories associated with terror operations. And this leads to proposals to deal with Mexicans as though they are a new slave class of Palestinianate losers (having had their water stolen and having been exploited for decades). There is no longer any shame in benefitting from the exploitation of an underclass. Fewer voices of the strong and wealthy are raised in protest. I see this as having been influenced by the situation in the Middle East and also by what I can only imagine was a series of attacks, one of which was provably false flag (the anthrax).
I registered about two days ago on the blog of a certain online magazine and started a thread with the title of an article listed there, seing they were so pro-you know-who.
Long discussion.
To rest my case, I posted the URL to this article so they could read for themselves.
Within three hours, I was banned.
Go figure.
The barcode boycott of Israeli goods seems to me a good and proportionate response, having none of the savor of old-fashioned anti-semitism.
It does not target people whose supposed beliefs follow from their ethnicity. It targets a nation which is performing atrocities.
And okay - you have my blessing to go farther and target American goods in the same way, should the resolution of the House to accept uncritically all of Israel's actions (a boilerplate written up by AIPAC and signed 410-8 the other day) be taken into consideration.
If this be treason, make the most of it.
ON POSSIBLE BOYCOTTS:
Can you guys name an item made in Israel, exported and sold here? Most of our stockshelf items are either made here in the U.S., imported from mexico or exported from China.
There really are not alot of Israeli items for sale in the U.S., any other ideas?
I cannot think of any Israeli-made things, that for what it serves, I have ever purchased.
Name a few, anybody?
How about this; we all stop eating Chinese food, see what that'll do is close up Chinese restaurants and piss off Jewish Americans. Then they have nowhere to go on Friday nights. Then we protest at Comedy Clubs! Forming a human chain--I'm seeing no way of boycotting Israel.
Make sure grocery stores stop carrying 'Parve' foods maybe? Smash and grab at a bagel shop?
Cause a yearlong strike in Major League baseball--the most Jewishly watched sport. Highjack a Gucci truck heading to Boca Raton?
Well...
Stand outside Sacs 5th in NYC and scream "Good-bye jewwws!!!"??
Jack Zip - You have a point. But here I am like the proverbial tea-drinking Bostonian - enjoying my form-fitting Gottex swimsuits (I have three of them). They are sold in major department stores and they are the best damned things for women of a certain heft.
Also - flowers, some things like frozen basil and garlic in little cubes that are sold in Trader Joe's.
Various Kosher foods and wines.
Matzohs.
Perhaps, more seriously, the way to do it is PIN 9-11 on them and bring it to a broad market until the ADL gets all bent out of shape and sues you.
What about the ADL website isn't there something that can be done there? The ADL had a piece of legislation out this year to stop hate-speech. Maybe there's some headway to be gained there. We do need to get rid of that.
That sort of thing does piss off alot of Americans--then the other Israeli issues can slip in under that banner.
Musings,
So we demand that these stores stop carrying things that jews might buy? Then we catch hell from the newsmedia and are pegged on the ADL website as raving anti-semites.
Are matzas actually made in Israel? Is Gifilte fish an export of Israel?
Maneschevitz wine (spelling?) is that a product of Israel? I really don't know but it could backfire.
Who buys it but jews? and who is an anti-semite for trying to stop the jews from having their traditions? Us--there has to be another way.
Talking about brain cells, Bibi makes the following contribution to intelligence of less than stellar proportions:
"I guess the "Uno" represents the number of functioning brain cells that you own.
Robbing a bank is a crime.
Killing terrorists is not.
It's just about that simple."
Bibi completely ignores the fact that most of the 'terrorists' killed are only 'suspects' targeted from afar, and every time you kill a 'terrorist' or a 'suspect' you create two (or more) more. Positive ID comes later and is usually confirmed by the fact that they're dead - unless more than 25% are children, or one of the dead women is wearing a wedding dress. And it doesn't seem to matter if they're not armed (some might even cynically say that this seems to be preferable). In such cases the 'suspects' are deemed to be "Whoopsies" and crocodile tears are duly shed.
But Whoopsies, like everything else in the War on Terror, are a two-way street as Israelis paralysed in their bunkers are discovering while Israel grinds to a halt.
Bibi thinks there's a military solution to every problem. It is to be hoped his lack of grey matter and foresight prove him right.
Another point going back to just how many exports are there from Israel, is that that section of my grocery store is about 2 and a half feet wide. Six or seven orange boxes and that's it. Then onto the Goya food items and canned frijoles.
They have no technological sector do they?
ANYONE?
Zip - Like I said, I don't want to throw my swimsuits into Boston Harbor. And the foods are trivial.
Okay - here's the problem. The story I have heard is that the US defense industry exports big-time to Israel. That's what "aid" to Israel means. What is "aid" but giving people things which they don't have to pay for. There is also a big circuit of people shuttling between Israel and the US in the defense industries.
There are also contracts of all sorts about processing, oh, I dunno, phone records of Americans and stuff like that. Everybody has known about this for years and just acquiesced. You see, it's globalization, and Israel is considered as one of the trustworthy nations like India which can process your X-rays or troubleshoot your computer problems.
It is this trustworthiness which someone might question in light of the erratic behavior recently shown -- taking an act of war (yes, I DO think Hezbollah stepped over the border because the Prime Minister of LEBANON Fouad Siniora said so in front of Kofi Annan and Condi Rice) and turning it into a scorched earth ethnic cleansing genocide (the ONLY conclusion one can draw from Israel's rude and peremptory notes to the inhabitants of Southern Lebanon).
Who can trust a nation which does that? It is rogue. Therefore - they have no right to Americans' personal records. Period.
Regardless of what we buy or don't buy we keep making a lot of noise about an economic boycott of Israel and companies whose officers openly support Israel's policies. If this meme becomes widespread enough it will at least give pause to the enablers.
Incidentally, Google, Microsoft, Intel, and most other tech companies have research facilities in Tel Aviv. So if we boycott them we would need to start using pigeons to send our messages back and forth.
Jack be nimble, Jack be quick - Jack, do not buy a Menorah candlestick :O
Here are some other (better?) ways to boycott Zionist-ware:
Don't buy cut diamonds
Don't fly on El Al (especially to Israel - why would you want to?)
Don't buy Dell PCs
Don't drink Starbuck's coffee
Don't buy Israeli military hardware
Don't watch Hollywood movies
Don't watch Network TV (or even PBS!)
Don't buy MSM Newspapers (or read them!)
Don't eat Kosher foods (that should be easy
Don't buy porn
Don't use Incredimail (if you do, it will be almost impossible to switch
Don't buy junk software......
You get the idea!
Ooops - Don't vote for Joseph Lieberman (or any party-nominated Republican or Democrat next November)
Keep an eye on bar codes for goods made in Israel:
Israel's country prefix is 729.
BOYCOTT ANYTHING MADE IN ISRAEL!!!
http://www.mylinkspage.com/israel.html
# # #
GodSend :0
Starbucks might be a great place to start being that I hate their overpriced crappola coffee anyway (more a cuban coffee fan). Military hardware is ppppretty much rarely an item for me.
Now what's the deal with Dell? are some of those parts exported from Israel?
I always Google/Groowe my MSM news and like the service immensely.
Also--who "buys" porn? &:^D?
Nimmo (another day in the empire),
The McDonalds thing was fascinating on your site as was Coca-Cola. But there really isn't much there that is an export from Israel.
We need another path me thinks. I think a strike at the power given the ADL is a better start.
Well, Jack (Zip), truth be told my list was a bit 'tongue-in-cheeky'
It's a list of some of the businesses that are Zionist/Israel 'specialties', so-to-speak, which are quite revealing in and of themselves :O Michael Dell is known to have dropped a few bucks onto the Zionist/Israel plate on occasion
What is primarily exported from Zionist/Israel can be more aptly described as 'corruption of traditional values' or 'questionable ethics' - sorta like dancing around the golden calf, while throwing the finger at Mt. Sinai. They just won't learn, will they?! What did Einstein say: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - and he was Jewish, Oi Veh
Uh Rowan,
Are you actually Emperor Palpatine?
PS to Jack (Zip):
To get an idea of what G-d has up His sleeve as the Final Punishment for the persistent insanity of His (erstwhile) 'Chosen People', visit http://www.novalight.org and peruse the ALERT! section :O
Hey, Jackass Zip,
Why DON'T you go scream "Good Bye Jews!"
outside of Saks in Manhattan.
You'll be beaten to death by Prada pocket book wielding women, and you'll deserve it.
ALERT:
No Hezbollah Activists in Village of Qana, Israel Bombing Civilian Buildings and Vehicles
30 July 2006 | 12:13 | FOCUS News Agency
Qana/Sofia. "There are no Hezbollah activists in the village of Qana, Israel is bombarding civilian buildings and vehicles", Spanish journalist Monica Leiva, who is in the southern Lebanese village at the moment, told FOCUS News Agency.
“I am at the site of the bombarding at the moment. Here the people are still trying to pull the bodies out from under the ruins. At the moment they are trying to free the bodies of the children killed in the Israeli air raid. The bombarding continues.
What more can I say? Israel is firing at everything – buildings, roads, vehicles. It is practically impossible for the locals to leave the area, as there is no guarantee that they will not be fired at while trying to escape the war zone. The people are very scared. The air raids started during the night and continue. There are no Hezbollah activists in Qana. There are only civilians here,” the Spanish journalist said.
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.p...=0&
newsid=93149
PLease spread widely.
US government makes it illegal to boycott Israel.
The above statement is not very useful. You can't make a law against boycotts as such, though you could make a law against attempting to organise them.
meanwhile, Joshua frank vs Ran ha Cohen on where the soldiers were:
"I am on the fence myself and not convinced one way or another as to where the soldiers were actually captured by Hezbollah soldiers. One thing is a fact, however: the original story (i.e., the AP) changed everywhere after Israeli military released their statement."
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2006...nse-to-hacohen/
I haven't figured out why, with Xymphora using the F word and the Shi- word..that Hoursewhisper hasn't said A THING about being too angry or hostile!
O.K.;
The elected representatives of the U.S. Congress and Senate vote almost in totality to "support" Israel--
One of the major things about a boycott, inaddition to staying out of Gottchalks and Macy's (and it is very easy to obtain lists on the internet--)
BUT the BIGGEST contributer to Zion are our very own elected criminal stooges. (Recognizing that you are not all in the wicked, brainless U.S.A.--but you have the same kind in Britain and Canada).
I have done some basic research on the Democratic candidate of Gov. of California--it horrendous! It gets tangled, but his associations with a certain builder--who wants to develop 3,000 acres in Sacramento..and is funded by money from the likes of Diane Feinstein and Hubby and Mr. Ross from AIPAC--
JUST DON'T VOTE---(in addition to passing the word along--loudly--everywhere to BOYCOTT)..
I plan to change my registration to Green Party...and I don't care if we have 4 years of Schwarzenegger---
The Democrats WILL NOT GET MY VOTE-
they are absolutely CORRUPT..
I've met a few and all you see or hear--is drinking, young "interns" ending up dead in parks, and worst of all VOTING in tandem for anything Israel does. They are bought and paid for my Jews. And run by them.
http://www.projectcensored.org/
by Peter Phillips PhD..from Sonoma has a whole slew of lists..AOL, Time Warner...go to his site...Target--
Prudential
These international corporations ALL support Isreal. They ARE the military/industrial complex.
DON'T VOTE--Write letters--start the boycott.
Its not bad. Life will be simpler.
Don't need t.v., don't need Caterpillar, or Anheuser-Busch.
PLEASE look up PROJECT CENSORED--
thats all they do..the students spend their time collecting info.
on rotten corporations!!!!
Its not just that little tag on "made in Israel".....MOST supporters of Israel are making TONS of money importing TONS of stuff--
check out any clothing manufacturer--
Calvin Klein..and so on and so on.....
You are right...Israel doesn't produce much (except for terror and death)--BUT almost every corporate
entity supports Israel.
And every politician.
IT WILL REALLY HURT THE POLITICIANS--
What the f---do we care? We can live in a dictatorship awhile longer-
THEY CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT OUR VOTES!!!
HA!!!!!
Check out
ATK development (California)
http://www.wcrp.org/rforp/
truste...s_content_.html
Or google: Tsakopoulos
You will be shocked.
NO MORE CROOKED, WOMANIZING, DRUNKEN,
ZIONIST, BILLIONAIRE POLITICOS!!!!
MARX understood/ Castro understands/
Hugo Chavez understands---
The power is in politics--
thats where they will feel the pain--
they will miss our silly little votes.
THAT is SOMETHING to ORGANIZE AROUND..in every group/ and on-line..."WE WILL NOT BE FOOLED AGAIN"!!
Thats an old rock//title..
"We Won't be Fooled Again"
(The WHO????)???
The mass circulation Maariv devoted its front page to a suggested speech for Mr Olmert to deliver to world leaders.
"What is it about us, the Jews, the few and persecuted, that arouses all these instincts of cosmic justice in you?" it read. "We are not hesitating, apologising or relenting. Gentlemen, it is time for you to understand: The Jewish state will no longer be trampled underfoot... I serve as a mouth today for six million bombed Israeli citizens, who serve as a mouth for six million annihilated Jews, who were burnt to dust by savages in Europe... And you, just as you did not take the matter seriously at the time, you are ignoring it now."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/.../01/
wmid101.xml
Twisted logic--
the propaganda machine--
its exactly like Bush.
Is Cheney writing his speeches?
On Ra Hacohens piece: He used the word 'KIDNAPPED' with reference ot soldier, not as a quote, but his own words.....soldiers are NEVER kidnapped, they are captured...
What's with the six million.
1. Olmert serves "as a mouth today for six million bombed Israeli citizens"
2. "six million annihilated Jews, who were burnt to dust by savages in Europe"
3. "The book [Elie Wiesel's The Night] has been translated into thirty languages and has sold more than six million copies in the United States alone."
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?
i=2...=franklin032006
4. There was a show in the 70s called the Six Million Dollar Man, directed and produced by you-know-who.
This makes me wonder: Is "six million" Yiddish or Hebrew for "a lot of 'em"?
If that's the case then that would explain where the six million figure for the Holocaust comes from.
"The Jewish(Palestinian) state will no longer be trampled underfoot... I serve as a mouth today for x million bombed Israeli(Palestinian) citizens, who serve as a mouth for blah blah blah ..."
...and as Israel sinks beneath the accumulated weight of its own balderdash yet another piece of bi-polar mental illness masquerades as a compelling argument.
Doesn't anyone check this drivel for logic before it's published?
Don't have to be "logical"--
has anything been since GWB & 9/11???
Ok..for the math experts--
U.S. sends to Israel apprx 5-6 million a day..
That $1 per person..
If you go back 20 years and figure the interest that would have accumulated over 20 years--
Every student in California schools could have a DECENT education not graduate half illiterate!!!
Have 6,000,000 people in Israel, been bombed??
The only word with a ring of truth--
was "savages"--
He got that one right!
Ann Coulter would like that speech.
How long can israel play the victim card before the corrupt media explodes with the weight of the sh!t?
Yeah, but it wasn't an actual real Olmert speech, it was some asshole at Maariv pretending to be the Olmert of his wet dreams.
By the way, whoever mentioned Palpatine - take a look at the photo of Olmert (the real one) on the front of the online Haaretz and elsewhere - somehow it has acquired a tiny touch of sickly green...
This is sooo funny..
My God..I hope one of those little drones doesnt spot Hizbollah's cache
of 6,000,000 rockets
and drop one of GW's 5,000 bombs on it!
That will wake everyone up..in Lebanon AND SYRIA!!!!!!!!
Rowen..you got us off the Boycott..
They have started a group
called "MUNO UNO"..on flickr..
they use a black ribbon as
a symbol...
One world,
one people.......
I don't think you can be effective, in any way, if you don't understand the historical and economic facts that drive people to create war, especially in the Middle East.
I put up my photo of the Jewish Americans in S.F., holding signs such as "We want peace"..
I titled it
"there is also a sale on the Brooklyn Bridge, cheap!"
I think my statement is more realistic, than "peace and love"!
Lets all pass out Black Ribbons.
Meaningless.
Does anyone believe that withholding your votes and sending a letter, regarding what you consider the perfidy of elected politicians--
do you think that would be effective?
Perhaps we should do some reading and research into the boycott of South Africa. Remember, much different times.
I don't see much resemblance between the "xymphora" of today and the "xymphora" I used to enjoy reading 3 years ago.
The new xymphora seems more bigoted and less intelligent than the xymphora of the past.
Can we get a new xymphora please? (I'm addressing this question to the committee).
(: 911oz
One of the signs claimed:
"...over 50% of Israeli Jews are Indigenos to the Middle East & Northern Africa..."
So......?
Does that give them a reason to kill everyone else in the Middle East
or evict them?
So, if its "we were here first"..
I believe that Babylon would be first in historical category. (Iraq)
Wouldn't it be the case that MORE than 50% of Palestinians (about 100%) are indigenos to the Middle East and North Africa.
More twisted logic.
The world is a lot different than it was 3 years ago.
Re: the 'savages in Europe'.
Almost ALL of Europe was under the Nazi jackboot, having fought against Germany but having been beaten [invaded and occupied]by a far superior and better armed Germany. Armed I might added [and further aided] with money from sources such as G.W. Bush's grandfathers' corrupt banking business interests. (See Walkers and Harrimans). His grandfather was found guilty and convicted of "trading with the enemy". This money-mad, souless 'mob' were Americans NOT Europeans. They were the worst war profiteers then as they are now.
Just as G.W.Bush's father G.W.H. [Poppy] Bush still is, they were also actively financing and pursuing 'eugenics' programmes. Eugenics as in 'master race, etc.
Countless Europeans [and even more Russians]fought the Nazis and millions of them suffered and died - many members of my own family included. Europeans took in and helped many Jews. Europeans helped find & close the concentration camps, and save what remaining prisoners they could. Europeans helped bring some of the main perpertraters to justice. Europeans held many guilty Nazis in their jails - some untill they died -- while America actively helped some escape and live good lives in both the North and South American continents.
Also, had America entered the war much sooner than they did, many, many lives would have been saved -- including Jewish lives.
So don't do as far too many none-Europeans have a habit of doing [in their ignorance] and lump many, many different countries together and refer to a whole continent as though it were merely a single country.
At least, don't if you want to retain any semblance of credibility and/or any actual 'knowledge'.
And finally, as imperfect as it has turned out to be, it was Europeans who so actively helped found the state of Israel.
There is another way of doing boycotts, which hasn’t been mentioned here.
Target one company / sector / whatever and make them go under. Then pass to another.
A large part of the importance of a boycott is the media attention it gets, and the opportunity it gives ordinary people to express themselves, as well as convince others. Those aims are well fulfilled with targeted boycotts. The problem of the Schwartz store, of the mega-corporation, of the small component in a complex product, etc. vanish. Also, people don’t have to look at barcodes or start feeling guilty about buying gefilte fish.
Academics have been calling for an academic boycott of Israel for years. There is a lot going on in that area.
Just one link:
http://www.monabaker.com/
onthebo...ntheboycott.htm
Can anyone explain the saying cited by Mrs Rosner here?
"Gibson makes an easy target: Famous, rich, outspoken. It's tempting to just laugh him off, as he is really no more than a joke. This is how my wife, when she first heard about this, reacted: They say a woman of a certain age has to choose between her face and her behind. In Gibson's case the choice was between the head and the behind, and he clearly made the right choice."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pag...l?
itemNo=744889
An interesting series of comments by Lebanese businessmen living in America in today's New York Times business section (Tues, Aug 1, 2006).
Which of them is for the bombing? A former associate of Michael Milken, junk bond salesman and thief. Not only does he use the idea of cancer to describe Hezbollah, not only does he want southern Lebanon cleared out, this guy (a Maronite Christian) blurts out what is in store in his gang for Beirut - "another Hong Kong". They are building something after pulling down the place, you see.
But he is not apparently typical of the views. Greek Orthodox Lebanese who are executives at Morgan Stanley (from the look of it an extended family named Mack and Makhoul) are appalled. Evidently the neocon thug element in the society (perhaps the ones who did Sabra and Shatila in concert with Likudniks) disgust them. They must have been involved in the rebuilding of Beirut after Israel left. And the Michael Milken types were the outs who now want back in through violence.
I would imagine this is also playing out in the moneyed interests within the US - the Enron types versus the more sound business practice types.
Just imagine.....if everybody voted Green in November! Imagine....all the people! Imagine......all the Repub and Democrat traitors in Zionist clothing looking for new jobs as diswashers, gardeners and short-order cooks or waiting on us It would be soooooooooo much fun - and poetic justice! Personally, I would enjoy having Hillary Clinton serve me - on 2nd thought :O
I like it, I like it!!! Pass the word!
VOTE GREEN!
Mel's lack of gratitude is grotesque. Afterall they gave him 5 Oscars, a film which has been voted one of the worst movie in living memory.
I think that each member of Congress who voted on the AIPAC-supplied resolution to condone the Israeli attacks on the Lebanon ("Carry on") should be hounded from office. Not reading the Patriot Act before voting was one thing (and the anthrax sent with a note "Death to America. Death to Israel" was later found to have been a domestic act of terror done by someone with access to US military stores of the weaponized terror weapon was a factor in their not having access to the bulky act before voting). This is a second shoe dropping, and we are not in any quandry as to the source - Likudnik neocons.
Those who voted for this have shown that when push comes to shove, their liberal values, their Christian values about just war - are absent. They must be hounded from office - every one of the 410 of them. They have demonstrated that they do not deserve to represent us. Remember, remember the Fifth of November (or thereabouts).
Who did the voting? - the Sanhedrin? :O
About Mel's recent 'faux pas':
Has anyone noticed how the truth comes much easier out of one's mouth after the tongue has been loosened by a few cocktails and true feelings have been released from their 'politically correct' strait jacket? :O
What if the world is about to unfetter its true feelings about the atrocities now being committed in Lebanon/Gaza by Zionist devils? :O (not to mention how their own lives ar