"The international body should ... license a logo which complying businesses can put on their products so that decent human beings can buy them"
How about a yellow star of David?
Just kidding. I agree it's serious but I'm not convinced boycotting is the answer since, just like sanctions, it's a response aimed at hurting the wrong people. It would be useful only in conveying to ordinary Israelis the extent of opposition to the tactics of their government.
Boycotts are the opposite of sanctions, politically speaking - boycotts are the product of grass roots pressure, sanctions are the acts of governments. Boycotts work - consider apartheid.
Since mid last week, my own extended family (two generations) have agreed upon a boycott. If some of the wrong people are 'hurt,' that's unfortunate. Sort of economic, colateral damage, eh?
Tough. At least any victims are unlikely to die or be maimed. I'm certain that they'll "get over it."
I agree with the boycott as a practicable, relatively easy thing, still available for an average citizen, what he/she still can do, without too much hussle.
May I add, that primary candidates for it, beside the usual businesees, are all their lying media. Nothing I would like to see better, in this context than let's say the television or newspaper subscriptions would suddenly drop half, or more. I would much prefer for example, over let's say Swartz's local deli, is suddenly struggling to kep himself alive.
I have cancelled my television subscription last week and the same goes for their printed media. These are all beyond hope, so just let the Zionists buy them.
We got to peel off, the majority of the Diaspora Jews (even for their own benefit and survival)to mindlessly follow their corrupt leadership who leads them into another catastrophe.
Kudos again for Xymph. to thinking in practical terms and solutions.
But I don't praise him anyfurther, because than he would have to pay me.
Oh sorry, one more thing, I also decided, that all the savings from my cancelled tv and newspaper subscriptions will go to selected blogsites from next month on, who are perpetually short of money and struggling to stay afloat, starting with Daryl Bradford Smith, Kurt Nimmo and a few others.
You can surely distinguish between schwartz' deli, which as such bears no direct relation to the state of israel, and its sale of products imported from there, which you can selectively boycott.
I just spotted this, via a remark somewhere by margaret griffis:
"Defense officials told the Post last week that they were receiving indications from the US that America would be interested in seeing Israel attack Syria." JPost, Sunday, 30 July (yesterday) final paragraph.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat...rticle/
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identifying and neutralizing jewish centers of business and decision ? lets just state that the jews mean crap in the bigger picture. the crimes of israel are *against* jewry everywhere and obviously *designed* to stir up hate against jews (not that that in any way diminishes the culpability of the diaspora communities).
lets start at the top and work down from there:
- The English Royal family
- The Rothschild clan
- The Rockefeller clan
- The Catholic Church, especially the Jesuits
- All associates of above
- All business entities controlled directly and indirectly by above
Once these centers of power and ideology are neutralized, the rest of the murderous bunch should be easy prey because neutralizing these centers of power means "zionism" and "judaism" will lose what energizes them as ideologies. with no money backing the ideology (religion if you want), jews will cease to exist as "jews". i doubt that "jews" with what a status that amounts to "upper middle class" or higher bourgeoisy would be game to sink too much money into the delusions of psychopaths.
To claim that the british royal family, and/or the jesuits, are at the centre of the web of the global new order, is just as obtuse as to claim that 'the Jews' are.
Useful boycott data (uk based):
http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott...ott-
israel.html
OK, "targetted" boycotting certainly seems much more valid, particularly against companies such as listed on the website Rowan pointed out. The only problem being that I've already boycotted most of them for various other reasons (environmental, health, actions in the third world, etc... or in the case of Disney because their films are just crap!).
So I'd add the suggestion of preferentially sourcing products from Lebanon and Palestine. Not so easy except in specialty shops I guess, but for example, http://www.zaytoun.org/ sells Fair Trade Olives from Palestine.
Why don't we ask some of the rabbis who are absolutely outraged over this entire situation? There are two large groups that say that Zionism and Israel's land lust are affronts to the Torah. Let's make a list. I love olives personally, so I am more than willing to buy olives and other products from Palestine or resell them on my site (when it's up.)
Thanks R.B. You had a good point, on that selective boycott in the dilemma surrounding that hypothetical business of Schwartz.
I also fully agree with you dismissing that Jesuit and Catholic red herring, advocated by that 'barking dog'.
I will expect all sort of attempts to derail, diffuse, deflect us to focusing on the perennial culprit and villain of these cases of Human suffering, namely the Zionists and their enablers.
Their reaction actually be an indirect proof, that we will getting closer where it hurts. Their squeeling of 'anti-Semitism' and all the other tired, old tactics of intimidation, will serve us as a guidance to 'honing on' on them more precisely.
I announced my own divestment program a few months ago, deciding then to purge all of my consumer purchases that had an Israeli component to them. The learning curve has been steep - but fun, though I can't profess to inflicting much of a dent in the Israeli economy.
As well, I committed myself to recruit others to boycott the purchase of Israeli related consumer goods. So far I have 3 on board and we share product boycott lists with each other.
Perhaps of more significance is the fact that I have sold off all of my equity holdings in companies with various forms of Israeli corporate involvement. But of most significance, I have completely dropped all of my equity positions in U.S corporations - all of them. This U.S. divestment process began 2 years ago. To date, I have pulled over USD 16 million out of the U.S. market, not including the pending sale of my Miami shack for USD 5+ million.
I cannot have my money working and supporting two economies of such blatantly murderous proportions. More importantly, I do not want to take the risk of profiting from any of these countries horrible activities.
My problem now is that I am heavy in cash and trying to figure out where to place it and remain 'clean'.
My path to boycott started with myself. It was the fastest way I could act. Convincing others takes time and I never was a good Mormon missionary. In fact, I opted out of it all because of the missionary detail.
I agree that Israel is beyond hope.
As for a 'solution', although a boycott of Jewish interests may make those who bother feel good, it isn't a terribly practical measure.
Principally because those same 'Jewish interests' include almost all the mass media in western countries, with the result that _most_ people are simply unaware of what is really going on. And will remain unaware of a boycott, or why they should help. Or even why something needs to be done about the media itself.
Sadly, since its only a small proportion of the population who are net-aware enough to realise that things have become desperate, it looks like the only action that will 'work', may be the traditional last resort.
Violence.
I've been a bit taken aback by Micah Marshall's shilling for Israel. Same goes for Aravosis at Americablog. They're all "we hate Bush" but Israel can do no wrong. And of course we all hate because you are free aren't you.
How? The bastards have insinuated themselves into every aspect of our lives. They control their neighbours through Weaponry, and they control us through money. They're everywhere.
30 July 2006
A Lebanese Shia explains how Hezbollah uses human shields
Judeoscope
In a letter to the editor of the Berlin left-wing daily Die Tageszeitung (TAZ) a Lebanese Shia explains how after Israel’s withdrawal from South Lebanon, Hezbollah stored rockets in bunkers in his town and built a school and residence over it.
I lived until 2002 in a small southern village near Mardshajund that is inhabited by a majority of Shias like me. After Israel left Lebanon, it did not take long for Hezbollah to take have its say in other towns. Received as successful resistance fighters and armed to the teeth, they stored rockets in bunkers in our town as well. The social work of the Party of God consisted in building a school and a residence over these bunkers! A local sheikh explained to me laughing that the Jews would lose in any event because the rockets would either be fired at them or if they attacked the rockets depots, they would be condemned by world opinion on account of the dead civilians. These people do not care about the Lebanese population, they use them as shields, and, once dead, as propaganda. As long as they continue existing there, there will be no tranquility and peace.
Dr. Mounir Herzallah
Berlin-Wedding
(translated from the German
Xymph:
You have correctly identified the cause of the world's problem - sort of 
Behind Zionism and the Satanic leadership of Israel and the United States (including poodle UK), lurks the Devil, himself. Only the Devil and his worshippers could perpetrate such Evil! Nothing can stop the coming Depression in America and then globally. That's part of the plan - executed by Zionists controlling the Fed Reserve (first Greenspan and now Bernanke). 911, planned and executed by Mossad and Neocon (Zionist) controlled agents in the Pentagon, set the stage for a Neo-Fascist regime in America and for the global NWO. The Matrix is alive and well and is controlling the world right now! (including 'elections'). Both Republican and Democratic parties are infiltrated and run by Zionists - through bribery or extortion or blackmail. What to do?
Resistance at a collective (Civil Disobedience and a Boycott of Zionist interests) and individual level (Lt. Ehren Watada) is essential and can be very powerful. Unfortunately, most people will not be moved into action until their personal pain becomes unbearable and they have 'nothing left to lose' but the lives of their loved ones or their own life. Some will be moved to action when their physical/economic survival is threatened.
Crunch time for the world will arrive shortly. In the greater scheme of things, the coming showdown at High Noon will be the final confrontation between Good and Evil, Light and Darkness, God and Satan (the Great Deceiver). Each person must choose where they will stand.
For a more complete analysis of our situation (apparently dire but ultimately a release from tyranny for humanity), visit http://www.novalight.org and many hidden things will be unveiled. There is still Time, brother, to choose the side of Light - but precious little :O
The Holocaust Industry is finished.
Terra Hertz...feeling good about oneself ain't to be discounted. In fact, it's difficult to get any constructive shit done without harbouring feelings of reasonable selfworth. The radical nature of my divestment plan has made quite an impression on friends, family, and financial service hacks who, despite their decent wealth and impressive enuff educations, have a rather MSM view of the going-ons of this fractured world of ours. I can't say i've shook their foundations but I do know they are rattled enough by my focused actions to pay attention to certain developments in a way somewhat out of their previous character. In fact, I kow of no other who has pursued my course of action, and done so with such considerable wealth.
And sure, the webs of influence and ownership is complex, but the use of violence also demands target acquisition research so sticking to bullets instead of capital flight as a method for your body to employ doesn't denude you of the requirement to identify hard targets. And hey, I'm human and I welcome complex tasks. In fact undertaking complex tasks is helps me remain human.
Jeff - there might be some or none or even considerable truth in your posted piece: but that doesn't change the fact that it is a wandering blog testimonial of fictitious origin. Those things abound and I'm surprised you haven't pegged it for what it is...crap. Shove it up your pasty ass, ya crooked shill/bonehead.
(I hope Iv'e speeld lots of things wrong here along with my standard typos. Wouldn't wanna to leave Rowan without his daily fare of WonderBread)
um ... what about the Pentium processor?
The 'barking dog' has found the right tree - Congratulations! 
Paul,
I have the same observation s you re Americablog and Josh...
I knew Aravosis is a whinner butI thought Josh was a bit more serious and dedicated blogger.
Oh BTW, thanks for the link Rowan.
I would agree that the underlying problem is "Lebanon's lack of control over the belligerent militia controlling its southern border". But I don't agree the belligerent militia is the one Josh thinks.
The really problematic belligerent militia is the one that systematically violates the Lebanese border to carry out assassinations, incursions, bombing raids, sonic booms etc, and is pissed at Hizbollah's ability to exercise even minimal deterrence against it.
to Rowan Berkeley and others:
I named the groups and institutions above because I believe them for various reasons to be the backers of Zionism. I suggest you check for yourself before calling me 'obtuse', and I am sorry if I am giving the impression that I want to derail this necessary discussion. That is not my intention, but to get to the roots of the problem.
I think that if we don't look very attentively at those putatively "outside" Zionism but still covertly support their depredations, we'll have some other, possibly worse, kind of criminal ideology in place as soon as Zionism goes down in flames.
Sorry for the conmotion.
The Nuclear Option of Krystallnacht: You're nuts Xymphora.
What you are advocating is exactly what extremist Israelis dream about and hope for. It is why Hezbollah is popular in Lebanon right now too. Each extremist side gains points by showing how very wronged they are, how much more sinned against than sinning. They develop a magnetic appeal to the weak and wronged.
In the immediate post-Holocaust era, otherwise nice people cheered on the Irgun.
You are trying to mobilize anti-Semitism in order to oppose what you regard as the excessive influence of Israeli policies on the US and the English-speaking world in general.
There are better ways. Start with a demand for impartial justice, even-handed honest broker justice.
The way you propose is the way of fools.
Oh and by the way: I think it is perfectly acceptable to cancel your newspaper subscription or cable service and tell them why. CNN is a prime villain, in my opinion, in its biased coverage of all aspects of the GWOT. But the basis for the cancellation is not based on anti-semitism.
would you care to define "anti-semitism"? perhaps you could give us some indication of why you find it useful to deliberately use a word that precipitates us back into the worst racist misconceptions of the nineteenth century?
This part of your suggestion seems appallingly Stalinist -- not to mention likely to backfire:
"Boycotting Jewish businesses sounds entirely unfair, and it is. There should be a way out. We need some kind of international body to identify all Jewish-owned or -controlled businesses and allow them to escape the boycott by making a public statement disclaiming Zionism and Israeli violence, preferably coupled with a generous contribution to humanitarian relief for the victims of Zionist violence. The international body should be able to certify if a business is subject to the boycott or not, and should license a logo which complying businesses can put on their products so that decent human beings can buy them."
Asking Jews to denounce other Jews is like assuming that bombing Lebanon will get the Lebanese to denounce Hezbollah. Beleaguered groups tend to pull together when under assault. And the apparatus you suggest, of international bodies and approved logos, verges on the pornographic.
On the other hand, anything that squeezes the Jewish business community as a whole is far more likely to cause that community -- privately but in unison -- to rethink where its real interests lie and in what corners it should use its considerable influence.
Beyond that, call me hopelessly old-fashioned, but I can't help thinking the real issues in all this are economic ones and have very little to do with religion or even with Jewish paranoia. The fact that Israel is probably not a viable economic unit -- at least as long as it erects walls between itself and its natural trading partners in the area -- and that it is particularly terrified of being cut off from sources of oil. The increasing social divisions in Israel over the last 30 years since it started moving away from its original egalitarianism and towards Likudnik free market anarchy. The equivalent social divisions in Lebanon, with the Shi'ites at the bottom of the pile and the Christians and Sunnis at the top.
A boycott may be a very blunt weapon, but at least it would have the advantage of focusing attention on where the real issues lie.
FYI, israeli barcode numbers begin with 729.
The Spider has spun its deadly Web and much of the world is trapped comatose in it! The Spider is feeding on the blood and souls of the trapped and helpless victims. The cumulative effect of years of injections of mind and soul-destroying poison by the Zionist-controlled Mainstream Media has taken its toll and the options for escape are few, collectively or individually. The Spider must be killed!
The Spider is located in Israel and the deadly brood of baby spiders has spun other Webs throughout the world, particularly in the USA, in Germany, in Canada and in the UK (among many other places).
Who can and will kill the Spider? It's a task not even Superman can handle :O
So, who does that leave to rescue humanity? (No, not Obe Won Kanobe!)
"There are better ways. Start with a demand for impartial justice, even-handed honest broker justice."
But there is were we all started, years ago, specially Ximph. Are you running an 8086?
The people who thought "thenewrepublican" Micah is on the "impartial justice" side are definitely running eniacs!
One problem with a boycott is identifying pro-Zionist companies correctly.
We all know that the Starbucks CEO is a Zionist. But how do we maintain a credible list? The list on the site that Rowan posted is too short.
Also a few people not drinking Starbucks might not have an impact on their bottom line. They might not even notice. So we can complement the boycott by handing them little notes which indicate that we are boycotting them because of their support for Zionism.
Another question: how do we spread the word about this boycott?
"There are better ways. Start with a demand for impartial justice, even-handed honest broker justice."
Good theory, Musings. Trouble is, the people we left in charge of these things have been hijacked. I'm refering to Guantanamo, Extraordinary Rendition, Abu Ghraib and the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act etc. I had my doubts when you leapt to the defense of the terrorist myth. Now you seem to be advocating cloying ineffectualism by describing active and practical alternatives as foolish. But I think RB just nailed you...
Even if the boycott has no economic impact, just the threat of a boycott will shock the enablers of Israel. It will make them rethink their unconditional support of Israel's war-crimes.
I know this sounds like a stereotype, but a boycott should put more fear of God into the Zionists hearts than a flurry of Katyushas.
http://www.break.com/movies/
peri...sing_jdate.html
Lemme see here: 729 (7+2=9 and 2+9=11)
Huh! - imagine that, it adds up :O
The Devil does relish playing the occult numbers game
"Who can and will kill the Spider? It's a task not even Superman can handle :O So, who does that leave to rescue humanity?"
Hezbollah?
MJ:
Hmmmmmmmm.......Hezbollah, huh?!
Let's see if they can rescue Lebanon and we'll go from there, OK?!
What's that you say, "Humanity has already been rescued!"
Well I'll be! :O Can you tell me more? What! - you saw it clear as a bell at http://www.novalight.org ?
The issue of fairness is easier to think about in the context of a cultural boycott. Here the target is frankly admitted to be the offending society in its entirety, and "collateral damage" is accepted as an unavoidable cost of action. When the South African football team was not allowed to play on European soil, or South African athletes were not allowed to compete in the Olympics, there were undoubtedly individual athletes affected who opposed apartheid. Yet the boycott was almost universally adopted (except in Israel).
Boycotts at any given moment scapegoat the visible targets, as opposed to all the possible targets that are more obscure and not yet visible. This is just in the nature of things. Fairness would require omniscience.
Oh No. I hope that all of the people on this page don't stop buying matzoh balls and gefilte fish! That would just cripple the economy.
Keep whining.
Qana was not a massacre. It was an accident. Colateral damage shit like that happens.
I certainly would emphasize that no one there deserved to die.
If you harbor terrorists, and keep missles in your basement, something bad is eventually going to happen to you.
"If you harbor terrorists, and keep missles in your basement, something bad is eventually going to happen to you."
Who would have thought a Zio-troll would be predicting the end of the Jewish state?
OT: Israel seems intent on drawing Syria into its war against Lebanon.
"Another airstrike hit the main Lebanese-Syrian border crossing for the third time in as many days, the army and witnesses said. Israel said the strike targeted a truck importing weapons from Syria. It said the strike was in Lebanese territory.
But Lebanese police officials said two missiles struck near a vehicle carrying relief supplies near the customs post at Masnaa, wounding four people and a customs officer."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14100258/
I have on my website a bar code /gif I took of Wayne Madsen's site (which he has now removed.
I am working on a logo of a Jaffa orange / grapefruit with a knife stabbed into it oozing blood from the cut. My ideas outrun my skills - someone may be more capable.
- Bimbo Bibi....Rob a bank and a bystander gets killed by one of your crews stray bullets - and you are just the getaway driver - well Bimboid Bibi, you are going down for murder...not collateral damage or an accident. Fuck the Israeli murders of innocents.
Pop Tart bitch will evidently remain a Pop Tart bitch.
- Rowan, who says a boycott need be naive in its target acquisition and miss shadowed coordinates?
PS Sorry Monsieur Xymphy for cluttering your pages but Tide just can't tackle my spots. Such annoyances seem to be part n parcel of my nature.
Oh yeah, I'm really nailed. To the cross. So much for Qana. Should never have done that switcheroo on the water.
When I talk about terrorism and about who crossed over into Israel/Lebanon, I was inclined to credit the many conspiracy theorists who just knew it was actually Israelis going into Lebanon. Seemed to make sense. But then I saw Fouad Siniora say - with both Kofi Annan and Condi present - that it was actually Hezbollah which first entered Israel.
Believing something which is false from the get-go makes you a total target of the extremist persuasion. You play into the spider's hands if you will.
Of COURSE Israel deliberately bombed the UN position. There are plenty of witnesses to that. Of COURSE Israel did a second massacre at Qana, in a deliberate move to harm the helpless Shi'ites stuck in their manmade hell.
Just because I come out against a foolish plan to harm people because of their enthnicity, over which no one has control, I'm a wicked spy.
If you are going to be such brownshirts, you are going to go down in a Nuremberg trial one day., You aren't smart enough to outsmart the Jews.
By threatening innocents, you are going to be hoist by your own petard.
But not that the old guard Republicans in the US are in counter-attack mode. They don't like to see Bolsheviks running our government. They fear the sloppy smarmy creeping totalitarianism which is bad for business. They want to interject a new mideast envoy in the person of Colin Powell or James Baker. Yes, those men have been corrupt in their day. What powerful men haven't been? But I will stand by them before I will stand up for discrimination against Jewish businesses in order to give power to Israel. Because it will give them more power than ever.
Upon the Ziz I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against her/him. The wittiest of the bunch by far.
My favorite aspect of the "Greater Israel" wet dream, is that if it ever does become a reality, all those chosen assholes will be sucking down the depleted uranium that's been vaporized all over Iraq, southern Lebanon, and wherever else Israel's not-sees throw their tantrums. You reap what you sow!
jewish owned businesses? What does that mean? Your suggestion is absurd as a practical matter alone.
Just because someone is Jewish doesn't mean they are Zionist, they might in fact be fundamentalist terrorist muslims, but signing a statement. I have never heard anything so weird from you before.
I agree with musings to the extent that the only hint of an effective resistance to the Zionist takeover is coming from the old conservatives. And I too will stand with them.
But I don't understand your objection to a boycott. Are you saying it is immoral or just counterproductive? Are you also against a boycott of businesses located in Israel?
Emmy Uno,
I guess the "Uno" represents the number of functioning brain cells that you own.
Robbing a bank is a crime.
Killing terrorists is not.
It's just about that simple.
Lebanon Consolation:
When Bush goes to hell (not soon enough), there won't be a 'Cease-Fire', either :O
trouvere - I have to credit ziz with a decent idea. No more "blood" oranges. Getting up little stickers to place, surreptitiously on the odd Jaffa.
This is about water, and the global market in produce which uses water, as well as lifestyles in hot climates which demand taking that water from others.
I lived in a more modest southern California and a much more modest Las Vegas, in which farmers dug their own wells. The conflicts with Mexico over water resources are being played out - perhaps in the children of farmers voting with their feet to enter the abundant land of the north. Yet there are those which would Palestinianize them, something I cannot accept.
The Litani keeps coming up in discussions of Israel's "security." This is an admission of sorts.
JESUS WEPT!- as he probably did in Qana, where he turned water into 'wine', or if he'd seen the latest massacre (only the second in a decade).
The situation is becoming so obscene that that anybody who raises any small voice against the well-known politicians (Blair and Bush) but more against their ventriloquists (Cheney, Netanyahu, etc) will have a good chance in the forthcoming Rapture.
I promise ya, buddies!
Still not following you, musings. If Israel's expansionism is motivated by thirst and not racism, why does that make a boycott less acceptable to you?
Were you against the South African boycott?
trouvere - Israel's expansionism is not motivated by thirst. It is motivated by the usual greed for more resources. Reason not the need. Their treatment of other people is heartless, and the problem is that their attitude seems contagious in the USA. The utter callousness of Katrina, the border follies, the downward slide into frank white supremacy, egged on by the neocon crowd who like nothing more than to have a muscle-bound America to do their bidding.
The Americans by and large have no common history or common cause with those who run Israel today. Their attitudes come straight from Eastern Europe and Russia with no period of having lived in prosperity and freedom in a multicultural environment such as the Jewish idyll in New York City and LA. They are paranoid and heartless. In the US most Jews are not supporters of the neocon cause, but they are somehow galvanized by terror attacks (as on 9/11) to concede points to them where human rights (of which they were once champions) are concerned. I know that I paint with a broad brush, but this is my general impression.
Therefore, if you come down in the totalitarian way Xymphora suggests, of creating what is in essence a "loyalty oath" as the price of running a business if you are Jew, you simply polarize people. You become Joe McCarthy and rouse memories of the Dreyfus trial. Why would anyone want to be so left-wing they are right-wing? It would so gladden the hearts of the neocons if one took this position. I hope that Canadians and Europeans are not stupid enough to go down that road because of Israel's very real aggression, which must be dealt with DIRECTLY.
"The Americans [Jews] by and large have no common history or common cause with those who run Israel today."
I disagree that American Jews do not support Israel's policies. You are living in a dream world. (Go ahead and mention a few American Jews in positions of influence within the media who have used their power to oppose Israeli expansionism. It will be a very short list.) Jewish "identity" trumps the idyll of prosperity and freedom any day. It's worth remembering that a large percentage of the settler population is not from the shtetl but from Brooklyn.
You still haven't answered whether you could see fit to boycott businesses inside Israel. Or whether you approved of the South African boycott.
It would be simpler and easier to identify those companies that are NOT controlled by Zionists, there are less of them in this world.
If your paypacket is paid directly into a bank, you are Zionist controlled!
Bibi baby
robbing a bank is not a fuzzy action. Robbing is robbing and a bank is a bank
A terrorist...well, where should I begin. Let it suffice to say that terrorist, especially in the presnt clime, is a rather fuzzy word. Heck, half the founding fathers of Israel were labelled terrorists...but now I'm really delving into bimboidal territory having just felt necessitated to enlighten you of that.
Goodness me, it really isn't sexy to hear a chic-a-dee clamor for murder. Quite ugly actually.
Well, my Israeli-Barcode-Boycott-Blog is now online.
Ah, so much hatred.
Keep up the good work.
Xymph, post the ISP of that sucker and we'll all send complaints.
Was Sharon born in Brooklyn? How about Olmert? Yes, Golda Meir was at one time American, but I believe she had come here from Russia or somewhere. She was a real leftist - maybe even a commie.
There are American Jews who go to Israel and get the brainwash treatment. There are people who like to go slumming in third world dictatorships too, and who come back singing the praises of the dictator.
If you are having a good time, you don't compare and contrast the forms of government. I don't know how long it's been since I took in the Elysee Palace or the Assemble Nationale when I visited France. I cannot think of how long it's been since I looked into Britain's libel laws or examined their policies about IRA suspects.
If you are in Israel when a pizza place blows up or you see bloodied buses or a bunch of teens in line for a concert get mowed down you tend to think their policies towards members of terror organizations must be appropriate. But maybe you'd have different views if you knew the politicians and lived with their policies in the US. Which I think, until 9/11, was the way. Now I think there is a creeping acceptance of what for want of a better word I can only call privileged treatment for those who do not fall into the ethnic categories associated with terror operations. And this leads to proposals to deal with Mexicans as though they are a new slave class of Palestinianate losers (having had their water stolen and having been exploited for decades). There is no longer any shame in benefitting from the exploitation of an underclass. Fewer voices of the strong and wealthy are raised in protest. I see this as having been influenced by the situation in the Middle East and also by what I can only imagine was a series of attacks, one of which was provably false flag (the anthrax).
I registered about two days ago on the blog of a certain online magazine and started a thread with the title of an article listed there, seing they were so pro-you know-who.
Long discussion.
To rest my case, I posted the URL to this article so they could read for themselves.
Within three hours, I was banned.
Go figure.
The barcode boycott of Israeli goods seems to me a good and proportionate response, having none of the savor of old-fashioned anti-semitism.
It does not target people whose supposed beliefs follow from their ethnicity. It targets a nation which is performing atrocities.
And okay - you have my blessing to go farther and target American goods in the same way, should the resolution of the House to accept uncritically all of Israel's actions (a boilerplate written up by AIPAC and signed 410-8 the other day) be taken into consideration.
If this be treason, make the most of it.
ON POSSIBLE BOYCOTTS:
Can you guys name an item made in Israel, exported and sold here? Most of our stockshelf items are either made here in the U.S., imported from mexico or exported from China.
There really are not alot of Israeli items for sale in the U.S., any other ideas?
I cannot think of any Israeli-made things, that for what it serves, I have ever purchased.
Name a few, anybody?
How about this; we all stop eating Chinese food, see what that'll do is close up Chinese restaurants and piss off Jewish Americans. Then they have nowhere to go on Friday nights. Then we protest at Comedy Clubs! Forming a human chain--I'm seeing no way of boycotting Israel.
Make sure grocery stores stop carrying 'Parve' foods maybe? Smash and grab at a bagel shop?
Cause a yearlong strike in Major League baseball--the most Jewishly watched sport. Highjack a Gucci truck heading to Boca Raton?
Well...
Stand outside Sacs 5th in NYC and scream "Good-bye jewwws!!!"??
Jack Zip - You have a point. But here I am like the proverbial tea-drinking Bostonian - enjoying my form-fitting Gottex swimsuits (I have three of them). They are sold in major department stores and they are the best damned things for women of a certain heft.
Also - flowers, some things like frozen basil and garlic in little cubes that are sold in Trader Joe's.
Various Kosher foods and wines.
Matzohs.
Perhaps, more seriously, the way to do it is PIN 9-11 on them and bring it to a broad market until the ADL gets all bent out of shape and sues you.
What about the ADL website isn't there something that can be done there? The ADL had a piece of legislation out this year to stop hate-speech. Maybe there's some headway to be gained there. We do need to get rid of that.
That sort of thing does piss off alot of Americans--then the other Israeli issues can slip in under that banner.
Musings,
So we demand that these stores stop carrying things that jews might buy? Then we catch hell from the newsmedia and are pegged on the ADL website as raving anti-semites.
Are matzas actually made in Israel? Is Gifilte fish an export of Israel?
Maneschevitz wine (spelling?) is that a product of Israel? I really don't know but it could backfire.
Who buys it but jews? and who is an anti-semite for trying to stop the jews from having their traditions? Us--there has to be another way.
Talking about brain cells, Bibi makes the following contribution to intelligence of less than stellar proportions:
"I guess the "Uno" represents the number of functioning brain cells that you own.
Robbing a bank is a crime.
Killing terrorists is not.
It's just about that simple."
Bibi completely ignores the fact that most of the 'terrorists' killed are only 'suspects' targeted from afar, and every time you kill a 'terrorist' or a 'suspect' you create two (or more) more. Positive ID comes later and is usually confirmed by the fact that they're dead - unless more than 25% are children, or one of the dead women is wearing a wedding dress. And it doesn't seem to matter if they're not armed (some might even cynically say that this seems to be preferable). In such cases the 'suspects' are deemed to be "Whoopsies" and crocodile tears are duly shed.
But Whoopsies, like everything else in the War on Terror, are a two-way street as Israelis paralysed in their bunkers are discovering while Israel grinds to a halt.
Bibi thinks there's a military solution to every problem. It is to be hoped his lack of grey matter and foresight prove him right.
Another point going back to just how many exports are there from Israel, is that that section of my grocery store is about 2 and a half feet wide. Six or seven orange boxes and that's it. Then onto the Goya food items and canned frijoles.
They have no technological sector do they?
ANYONE?
Zip - Like I said, I don't want to throw my swimsuits into Boston Harbor. And the foods are trivial.
Okay - here's the problem. The story I have heard is that the US defense industry exports big-time to Israel. That's what "aid" to Israel means. What is "aid" but giving people things which they don't have to pay for. There is also a big circuit of people shuttling between Israel and the US in the defense industries.
There are also contracts of all sorts about processing, oh, I dunno, phone records of Americans and stuff like that. Everybody has known about this for years and just acquiesced. You see, it's globalization, and Israel is considered as one of the trustworthy nations like India which can process your X-rays or troubleshoot your computer problems.
It is this trustworthiness which someone might question in light of the erratic behavior recently shown -- taking an act of war (yes, I DO think Hezbollah stepped over the border because the Prime Minister of LEBANON Fouad Siniora said so in front of Kofi Annan and Condi Rice) and turning it into a scorched earth ethnic cleansing genocide (the ONLY conclusion one can draw from Israel's rude and peremptory notes to the inhabitants of Southern Lebanon).
Who can trust a nation which does that? It is rogue. Therefore - they have no right to Americans' personal records. Period.
Regardless of what we buy or don't buy we keep making a lot of noise about an economic boycott of Israel and companies whose officers openly support Israel's policies. If this meme becomes widespread enough it will at least give pause to the enablers.
Incidentally, Google, Microsoft, Intel, and most other tech companies have research facilities in Tel Aviv. So if we boycott them we would need to start using pigeons to send our messages back and forth.
Jack be nimble, Jack be quick - Jack, do not buy a Menorah candlestick :O
Here are some other (better?) ways to boycott Zionist-ware:
Don't buy cut diamonds
Don't fly on El Al (especially to Israel - why would you want to?)
Don't buy Dell PCs
Don't drink Starbuck's coffee
Don't buy Israeli military hardware
Don't watch Hollywood movies
Don't watch Network TV (or even PBS!)
Don't buy MSM Newspapers (or read them!)
Don't eat Kosher foods (that should be easy
Don't buy porn
Don't use Incredimail (if you do, it will be almost impossible to switch
Don't buy junk software......
You get the idea!
Ooops - Don't vote for Joseph Lieberman (or any party-nominated Republican or Democrat next November)
Keep an eye on bar codes for goods made in Israel:
Israel's country prefix is 729.
BOYCOTT ANYTHING MADE IN ISRAEL!!!
http://www.mylinkspage.com/israel.html
# # #
GodSend :0
Starbucks might be a great place to start being that I hate their overpriced crappola coffee anyway (more a cuban coffee fan). Military hardware is ppppretty much rarely an item for me.
Now what's the deal with Dell? are some of those parts exported from Israel?
I always Google/Groowe my MSM news and like the service immensely.
Also--who "buys" porn? &:^D?
Nimmo (another day in the empire),
The McDonalds thing was fascinating on your site as was Coca-Cola. But there really isn't much there that is an export from Israel.
We need another path me thinks. I think a strike at the power given the ADL is a better start.
Well, Jack (Zip), truth be told my list was a bit 'tongue-in-cheeky'
It's a list of some of the businesses that are Zionist/Israel 'specialties', so-to-speak, which are quite revealing in and of themselves :O Michael Dell is known to have dropped a few bucks onto the Zionist/Israel plate on occasion
What is primarily exported from Zionist/Israel can be more aptly described as 'corruption of traditional values' or 'questionable ethics' - sorta like dancing around the golden calf, while throwing the finger at Mt. Sinai. They just won't learn, will they?! What did Einstein say: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - and he was Jewish, Oi Veh
Uh Rowan,
Are you actually Emperor Palpatine?
PS to Jack (Zip):
To get an idea of what G-d has up His sleeve as the Final Punishment for the persistent insanity of His (erstwhile) 'Chosen People', visit http://www.novalight.org and peruse the ALERT! section :O
Hey, Jackass Zip,
Why DON'T you go scream "Good Bye Jews!"
outside of Saks in Manhattan.
You'll be beaten to death by Prada pocket book wielding women, and you'll deserve it.
ALERT:
No Hezbollah Activists in Village of Qana, Israel Bombing Civilian Buildings and Vehicles
30 July 2006 | 12:13 | FOCUS News Agency
Qana/Sofia. "There are no Hezbollah activists in the village of Qana, Israel is bombarding civilian buildings and vehicles", Spanish journalist Monica Leiva, who is in the southern Lebanese village at the moment, told FOCUS News Agency.
“I am at the site of the bombarding at the moment. Here the people are still trying to pull the bodies out from under the ruins. At the moment they are trying to free the bodies of the children killed in the Israeli air raid. The bombarding continues.
What more can I say? Israel is firing at everything – buildings, roads, vehicles. It is practically impossible for the locals to leave the area, as there is no guarantee that they will not be fired at while trying to escape the war zone. The people are very scared. The air raids started during the night and continue. There are no Hezbollah activists in Qana. There are only civilians here,” the Spanish journalist said.
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.p...=0&
newsid=93149
PLease spread widely.
US government makes it illegal to boycott Israel.
The above statement is not very useful. You can't make a law against boycotts as such, though you could make a law against attempting to organise them.
meanwhile, Joshua frank vs Ran ha Cohen on where the soldiers were:
"I am on the fence myself and not convinced one way or another as to where the soldiers were actually captured by Hezbollah soldiers. One thing is a fact, however: the original story (i.e., the AP) changed everywhere after Israeli military released their statement."
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2006...nse-to-hacohen/
I haven't figured out why, with Xymphora using the F word and the Shi- word..that Hoursewhisper hasn't said A THING about being too angry or hostile!
O.K.;
The elected representatives of the U.S. Congress and Senate vote almost in totality to "support" Israel--
One of the major things about a boycott, inaddition to staying out of Gottchalks and Macy's (and it is very easy to obtain lists on the internet--)
BUT the BIGGEST contributer to Zion are our very own elected criminal stooges. (Recognizing that you are not all in the wicked, brainless U.S.A.--but you have the same kind in Britain and Canada).
I have done some basic research on the Democratic candidate of Gov. of California--it horrendous! It gets tangled, but his associations with a certain builder--who wants to develop 3,000 acres in Sacramento..and is funded by money from the likes of Diane Feinstein and Hubby and Mr. Ross from AIPAC--
JUST DON'T VOTE---(in addition to passing the word along--loudly--everywhere to BOYCOTT)..
I plan to change my registration to Green Party...and I don't care if we have 4 years of Schwarzenegger---
The Democrats WILL NOT GET MY VOTE-
they are absolutely CORRUPT..
I've met a few and all you see or hear--is drinking, young "interns" ending up dead in parks, and worst of all VOTING in tandem for anything Israel does. They are bought and paid for my Jews. And run by them.
http://www.projectcensored.org/
by Peter Phillips PhD..from Sonoma has a whole slew of lists..AOL, Time Warner...go to his site...Target--
Prudential
These international corporations ALL support Isreal. They ARE the military/industrial complex.
DON'T VOTE--Write letters--start the boycott.
Its not bad. Life will be simpler.
Don't need t.v., don't need Caterpillar, or Anheuser-Busch.
PLEASE look up PROJECT CENSORED--
thats all they do..the students spend their time collecting info.
on rotten corporations!!!!
Its not just that little tag on "made in Israel".....MOST supporters of Israel are making TONS of money importing TONS of stuff--
check out any clothing manufacturer--
Calvin Klein..and so on and so on.....
You are right...Israel doesn't produce much (except for terror and death)--BUT almost every corporate
entity supports Israel.
And every politician.
IT WILL REALLY HURT THE POLITICIANS--
What the f---do we care? We can live in a dictatorship awhile longer-
THEY CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT OUR VOTES!!!
HA!!!!!
Check out
ATK development (California)
http://www.wcrp.org/rforp/
truste...s_content_.html
Or google: Tsakopoulos
You will be shocked.
NO MORE CROOKED, WOMANIZING, DRUNKEN,
ZIONIST, BILLIONAIRE POLITICOS!!!!
MARX understood/ Castro understands/
Hugo Chavez understands---
The power is in politics--
thats where they will feel the pain--
they will miss our silly little votes.
THAT is SOMETHING to ORGANIZE AROUND..in every group/ and on-line..."WE WILL NOT BE FOOLED AGAIN"!!
Thats an old rock//title..
"We Won't be Fooled Again"
(The WHO????)???
The mass circulation Maariv devoted its front page to a suggested speech for Mr Olmert to deliver to world leaders.
"What is it about us, the Jews, the few and persecuted, that arouses all these instincts of cosmic justice in you?" it read. "We are not hesitating, apologising or relenting. Gentlemen, it is time for you to understand: The Jewish state will no longer be trampled underfoot... I serve as a mouth today for six million bombed Israeli citizens, who serve as a mouth for six million annihilated Jews, who were burnt to dust by savages in Europe... And you, just as you did not take the matter seriously at the time, you are ignoring it now."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/.../01/
wmid101.xml
Twisted logic--
the propaganda machine--
its exactly like Bush.
Is Cheney writing his speeches?
On Ra Hacohens piece: He used the word 'KIDNAPPED' with reference ot soldier, not as a quote, but his own words.....soldiers are NEVER kidnapped, they are captured...
What's with the six million.
1. Olmert serves "as a mouth today for six million bombed Israeli citizens"
2. "six million annihilated Jews, who were burnt to dust by savages in Europe"
3. "The book [Elie Wiesel's The Night] has been translated into thirty languages and has sold more than six million copies in the United States alone."
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?
i=2...=franklin032006
4. There was a show in the 70s called the Six Million Dollar Man, directed and produced by you-know-who.
This makes me wonder: Is "six million" Yiddish or Hebrew for "a lot of 'em"?
If that's the case then that would explain where the six million figure for the Holocaust comes from.
"The Jewish(Palestinian) state will no longer be trampled underfoot... I serve as a mouth today for x million bombed Israeli(Palestinian) citizens, who serve as a mouth for blah blah blah ..."
...and as Israel sinks beneath the accumulated weight of its own balderdash yet another piece of bi-polar mental illness masquerades as a compelling argument.
Doesn't anyone check this drivel for logic before it's published?
Don't have to be "logical"--
has anything been since GWB & 9/11???
Ok..for the math experts--
U.S. sends to Israel apprx 5-6 million a day..
That $1 per person..
If you go back 20 years and figure the interest that would have accumulated over 20 years--
Every student in California schools could have a DECENT education not graduate half illiterate!!!
Have 6,000,000 people in Israel, been bombed??
The only word with a ring of truth--
was "savages"--
He got that one right!
Ann Coulter would like that speech.
How long can israel play the victim card before the corrupt media explodes with the weight of the sh!t?
Yeah, but it wasn't an actual real Olmert speech, it was some asshole at Maariv pretending to be the Olmert of his wet dreams.
By the way, whoever mentioned Palpatine - take a look at the photo of Olmert (the real one) on the front of the online Haaretz and elsewhere - somehow it has acquired a tiny touch of sickly green...
This is sooo funny..
My God..I hope one of those little drones doesnt spot Hizbollah's cache
of 6,000,000 rockets
and drop one of GW's 5,000 bombs on it!
That will wake everyone up..in Lebanon AND SYRIA!!!!!!!!
Rowen..you got us off the Boycott..
They have started a group
called "MUNO UNO"..on flickr..
they use a black ribbon as
a symbol...
One world,
one people.......
I don't think you can be effective, in any way, if you don't understand the historical and economic facts that drive people to create war, especially in the Middle East.
I put up my photo of the Jewish Americans in S.F., holding signs such as "We want peace"..
I titled it
"there is also a sale on the Brooklyn Bridge, cheap!"
I think my statement is more realistic, than "peace and love"!
Lets all pass out Black Ribbons.
Meaningless.
Does anyone believe that withholding your votes and sending a letter, regarding what you consider the perfidy of elected politicians--
do you think that would be effective?
Perhaps we should do some reading and research into the boycott of South Africa. Remember, much different times.
I don't see much resemblance between the "xymphora" of today and the "xymphora" I used to enjoy reading 3 years ago.
The new xymphora seems more bigoted and less intelligent than the xymphora of the past.
Can we get a new xymphora please? (I'm addressing this question to the committee).
(: 911oz
One of the signs claimed:
"...over 50% of Israeli Jews are Indigenos to the Middle East & Northern Africa..."
So......?
Does that give them a reason to kill everyone else in the Middle East
or evict them?
So, if its "we were here first"..
I believe that Babylon would be first in historical category. (Iraq)
Wouldn't it be the case that MORE than 50% of Palestinians (about 100%) are indigenos to the Middle East and North Africa.
More twisted logic.
The world is a lot different than it was 3 years ago.
Re: the 'savages in Europe'.
Almost ALL of Europe was under the Nazi jackboot, having fought against Germany but having been beaten [invaded and occupied]by a far superior and better armed Germany. Armed I might added [and further aided] with money from sources such as G.W. Bush's grandfathers' corrupt banking business interests. (See Walkers and Harrimans). His grandfather was found guilty and convicted of "trading with the enemy". This money-mad, souless 'mob' were Americans NOT Europeans. They were the worst war profiteers then as they are now.
Just as G.W.Bush's father G.W.H. [Poppy] Bush still is, they were also actively financing and pursuing 'eugenics' programmes. Eugenics as in 'master race, etc.
Countless Europeans [and even more Russians]fought the Nazis and millions of them suffered and died - many members of my own family included. Europeans took in and helped many Jews. Europeans helped find & close the concentration camps, and save what remaining prisoners they could. Europeans helped bring some of the main perpertraters to justice. Europeans held many guilty Nazis in their jails - some untill they died -- while America actively helped some escape and live good lives in both the North and South American continents.
Also, had America entered the war much sooner than they did, many, many lives would have been saved -- including Jewish lives.
So don't do as far too many none-Europeans have a habit of doing [in their ignorance] and lump many, many different countries together and refer to a whole continent as though it were merely a single country.
At least, don't if you want to retain any semblance of credibility and/or any actual 'knowledge'.
And finally, as imperfect as it has turned out to be, it was Europeans who so actively helped found the state of Israel.
There is another way of doing boycotts, which hasn’t been mentioned here.
Target one company / sector / whatever and make them go under. Then pass to another.
A large part of the importance of a boycott is the media attention it gets, and the opportunity it gives ordinary people to express themselves, as well as convince others. Those aims are well fulfilled with targeted boycotts. The problem of the Schwartz store, of the mega-corporation, of the small component in a complex product, etc. vanish. Also, people don’t have to look at barcodes or start feeling guilty about buying gefilte fish.
Academics have been calling for an academic boycott of Israel for years. There is a lot going on in that area.
Just one link:
http://www.monabaker.com/
onthebo...ntheboycott.htm
Can anyone explain the saying cited by Mrs Rosner here?
"Gibson makes an easy target: Famous, rich, outspoken. It's tempting to just laugh him off, as he is really no more than a joke. This is how my wife, when she first heard about this, reacted: They say a woman of a certain age has to choose between her face and her behind. In Gibson's case the choice was between the head and the behind, and he clearly made the right choice."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pag...l?
itemNo=744889
An interesting series of comments by Lebanese businessmen living in America in today's New York Times business section (Tues, Aug 1, 2006).
Which of them is for the bombing? A former associate of Michael Milken, junk bond salesman and thief. Not only does he use the idea of cancer to describe Hezbollah, not only does he want southern Lebanon cleared out, this guy (a Maronite Christian) blurts out what is in store in his gang for Beirut - "another Hong Kong". They are building something after pulling down the place, you see.
But he is not apparently typical of the views. Greek Orthodox Lebanese who are executives at Morgan Stanley (from the look of it an extended family named Mack and Makhoul) are appalled. Evidently the neocon thug element in the society (perhaps the ones who did Sabra and Shatila in concert with Likudniks) disgust them. They must have been involved in the rebuilding of Beirut after Israel left. And the Michael Milken types were the outs who now want back in through violence.
I would imagine this is also playing out in the moneyed interests within the US - the Enron types versus the more sound business practice types.
Just imagine.....if everybody voted Green in November! Imagine....all the people! Imagine......all the Repub and Democrat traitors in Zionist clothing looking for new jobs as diswashers, gardeners and short-order cooks or waiting on us It would be soooooooooo much fun - and poetic justice! Personally, I would enjoy having Hillary Clinton serve me - on 2nd thought :O
I like it, I like it!!! Pass the word!
VOTE GREEN!
Mel's lack of gratitude is grotesque. Afterall they gave him 5 Oscars, a film which has been voted one of the worst movie in living memory.
I think that each member of Congress who voted on the AIPAC-supplied resolution to condone the Israeli attacks on the Lebanon ("Carry on") should be hounded from office. Not reading the Patriot Act before voting was one thing (and the anthrax sent with a note "Death to America. Death to Israel" was later found to have been a domestic act of terror done by someone with access to US military stores of the weaponized terror weapon was a factor in their not having access to the bulky act before voting). This is a second shoe dropping, and we are not in any quandry as to the source - Likudnik neocons.
Those who voted for this have shown that when push comes to shove, their liberal values, their Christian values about just war - are absent. They must be hounded from office - every one of the 410 of them. They have demonstrated that they do not deserve to represent us. Remember, remember the Fifth of November (or thereabouts).
Who did the voting? - the Sanhedrin? :O
About Mel's recent 'faux pas':
Has anyone noticed how the truth comes much easier out of one's mouth after the tongue has been loosened by a few cocktails and true feelings have been released from their 'politically correct' strait jacket? :O
What if the world is about to unfetter its true feelings about the atrocities now being committed in Lebanon/Gaza by Zionist devils? :O (not to mention how their own lives are being jack-booted around!)
Vote GREEN only in the primaries. You only waste your vote in the General.
On second thought, never mind. Half the Dems should vote GREEN, what a good idea.
Clinton only won (both times) because of Perot. (are those Jews clever or what?) And Algore would have taken Florida if werent for all the stupid Greens.
Gore really should run again, because now he is Green.
The idea of VOTE GREEN! is a protest vote against the corrupt (Zionist-bought) main political parties. The qualifications of the GREEN candidates are irrelevant - VOTE GREEN! even if a dog is running (or just peeing against a fire hydrant At this (desperate) stage of the game, the point is to toss out all incumbents and make sure no Repubs/Dems get back in! Of course, electronic voting is likely to make a mockery out of the elections :O Any hackers out there who could hack Diebold? Ha! What an idea - beat them at their own game: A GREEN tide sweeps the country
In the U.S., the only signs of a resistance movement against the Israel lobby is coming from the conservatives. It's not much but it's the best we have. The time for party politics may be over.
TOP REPUBLICAN ASKS BUSH TO PUSH FOR IMMEDIATE LEBANON CEASEFIRE
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/
2006...on_060731203324
Hagel, the second-ranking Republican on the Senate's Foreign Relations Committee and a critic of Bush's war in Iraq, said the US link to Israel was a "special and historic one" but also coming at the cost of relations with Arab states.
"It need not and cannot be at the expense of our Arab and Muslim relationships," he said.
"The United States and Israel must understand that it is not in their long-term interests to allow themselves to become isolated in the Middle East and the world," Hagel said."
Everyone could stop worshiping Jesus because he was a Jew!
The moment one recognizes "world opinion" for what it is -- a statement of moral cowardice, one is longer enthralled by the term. That "world opinion" at this moment allegedly loathes America and Israel is a badge of honor to be worn proudly by those countries. It is when "world opinion" and its news media start liking you that you should wonder if you've lost your way.
jewish owned businesses? What does that mean? Your suggestion is absurd as a practical matter alone.
What does it mean when the FBI wants to figure out which Arab millionaires are supporting terrorism? There is a danger of racism and overstepping, but this is certainly worth it as it's the only real hope for peace possible.
J.L.
He (Jesus) WAS a Jew! (get it? - He supplanted Judaism and all other faiths with Christianity) The apostles Paul, Peter, John and most of the other, early followers of Christ also WERE Jews. They all gave up Judaism and their other religions and became disciples of Jesus the Christ. Even today, enlightened Jews are still giving up Judaism and are becoming followers of Christ - they are called Messianic Jews Shortly, the number of Messianic Jews will increase dramatically
to hell with all this jesus crap - sleepwalking to armageddon is not going to help anyone.
Someone needs to put together some banners with a website that lists all companies and corporations that Israeli or supportive. There needs to be some sort of easy-to-read pamphlet. This will be tough as there is a huge force of zionist cyber-soldiers present currently on the net from message boards, to anti-war sites, to blogs, to mainstream polls. I read two articles about it recently.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
art...2289232,00.html
See First Lt. Ehren Watada's brave stand against deployment to Iraq.
http://thankyoult.live.radicalde...caldesigns.org/
Wouldn't it be fun if a few U.S. Colonels had, like, a coup? There are some divisions in and around D.C. that would be able to take over the White House and Congress in a few hours.
Rowan Berkeley:
Those words will come back to haunt you, very possibly beyond the grave. God (Jesus the Christ) will not be mocked! Christians are not sleepwalking into Armageddon - we are resisting the Devil until the very End, when Jesus comes again with Power and Glory :O You are likely to be hiding in a cave at that time!
Hey GodSend.
As despised as I may be on this blog, you're just plain creepy.
I don't think that anyone wants to hear any of your Jesus freak crap.
Everyone here is Muslim, Jewish, or relatively secular Christian.
Go find a prayer meeting.
Cool! Kristallnacht II.
Well, at least we know you guys are taking your cues from Adolf, Josef et al.
Right Wing Pigeon:
Speak for yourself! - we're all adults here and can think and talk for ourselves without your help (I think
At least you're not a "Religious Right Wing Pigeon" :O
And do you s--t on everyone like this, Right Wing Pigeon-style, or just followers of Christ?
PS to Right Wing Pigeon:
There is no such thing as a "Secular Christian'. They are called "Counterfeit Christians" (you know, fakes - like Zionists are Jewish fakes) - there are millions of those, filling up churches every Sunday and supporting that creepy monster Bush while singing "God bless America"! They shall have their reward :O
Well I believe in Jesus Christ, and welcome GodSend, who has as much of a right to be here as anyone else.
Some use blogs to fight evil; others, use faith. Many churches are leading the boycott of Israel, in case the secular haven't noticed.
BTW, GodSend, I heard the type of Zionist Christians you refer to, that bless the bombs raining down all over the Middle East, as "Rent a Christians".
http://www.whtt.org
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...ges/
745185.html
Before any cyber soldier out there rants, there should be an important fact brought up. Many Jews became anarchists in America, for example Emma Goldman. Red Emma as she was called, was an atheist that believed all religions are apologists for the state. Besides, if there were a heaven, most humans would be kicked out for disorderly conduct. After all, religions start out as cults for fear of persecution for "heresy" by the dominate religious factions. Boycott War, your suggestion may be the only way to actually change anything and stop war. Even the guards of the state revolt if they are threatened too and became more politically active.
Boycott War:
Thanks for the support
The time has come for the true followers of Jesus the Christ to stand up and defend the Holy Name of our Lord and Master against all comers, no matter what and no matter where. We have been taught by Him to expect and accept ridicule and persecution. "Resist the devil and he will flee from you" - that's what we will do until the last breath, so help us God!
We will attack Zionists and all other deceivers and enemies of God with the sword of the Spirit - His Word! - even if they include the President of the United States :O (which they do!)
"In the U.S., the only signs of a resistance movement against the Israel lobby is coming from the conservatives. It's not much but it's the best we have. The time for party politics may be over."
The Repubs have been very good at sleight of hand and this may be yet another false show, essentially meaningless. Hagel has shown himself as a nazi-wannabe in other areas anyway. The Congress is occupied territory and until the lobbyists are done away with, or their influence severely curtailed, nothing will change. Besides, there is still the matter of corrupted machines, gerrymandering, et al. It seems only a massive 'stand down' by the voters
will have any effect as it will spotlight the
illegitimacy of the present circumstances.
"He (Jesus) WAS a Jew! (get it? - He supplanted Judaism and all other faiths with Christianity).."
Jesus had nothing to do with Christianity, nor would he have wanted to. It was those whom he fought against that created Christianity as a political tool and we can see how well it's worked out for them over the centuries. Nor did Jesus have any concern for nationalities, social customs, modern identity tags, or rocks in Jerusalem.
But present-day power mongers sure do.
Jesus isn't coming back. And even if he were, you can bet it would be modern-day Christians who would call for his head. They've been quite thoroughly conditioned on what to expect, you see.
"This makes me wonder: Is "six million" Yiddish or Hebrew for "a lot of 'em"?
If that's the case then that would explain where the six million figure for the Holocaust comes from."
Apparently, there is a prophecy in one of the Jewish religious texts that states that 6 million will be sacrificed before the Jews return to Palestine. Many say the Zionists seized upon this and actually worked with the Nazis during WW2 to 'fulfill' the prophecy. Others say that 6 million weren't actually killed during WW2 (# don't match up) but the legend was promoted so the prophecy could be 'fulfilled'. Why there seems to be a ban on investigating the Holocaust. Curious that the same prophecy theme seems to be aiding and abetting the current colonization efforts in the ME today.
So, how does one determine a prophecy's legitimacy by actively bringing it about?
MJ,
Did you mean this 6 million?
http://iamthewitness.com/Crucifi...on-of-
Jews.html
Or the other one that never happened?
bandofgypsies:
'Christian' is a word much misused since the time of its origin, so you may be right, depending on your definition. There are certainly many 'Christian' wolves in sheeps' clothing, appearing regularly on their own Sunday TV shows, who are deceivers of their flocks when it comes to edification in the Word and its meaning. They are very much focused on the grandeur of their churches, the number of their 'members' and the balance of their bank accounts! :O BUT, there are true followers of Jesus who live their faith, unseen and unheralded. They will be seen in due time. To say that Jesus is not coming back reveals ignorance at best and open rebellion at worst. Inbetween, maybe it's just cynicism? He said He IS coming back and that means He IS coming back - and He will be greeted by His true followers If you don't believe it, you may yet live to SEE it - and THEN believe it (like Thomas) :O
But I understand and agree with your disenchantment with many of those who like to wear the label 'Christian'. Yes, Jesus will say to them "I never knew you"
Rhy Twinger, you imbicilic shit-head.
Clinton one the second time because of "your" idjit with a fetish for Boystown, Newt Gingrich. Probably the whole give the homeless each a laptop computer helped some too. Your people are morons--you're just lucky the lesbians put in Howard Dean. And also that Dems had no idea John Kerry was actually retarded.
Joseph Biden will be president in 2008! Get used to that.
And your candidate will be: Jeb "IMC coke runner" Bush.
This site is sinking. The Tower Of Babel is still with us. It's called formal education, the media, public opinion and ego.
American's have always been allowed to bark, because the sheeple seldom actually bite the hand that feeds them, conditions them and despises them for their proud ignor-ance.
Gibson's statement will test his belief and integrity. He, like so many others, will most likely sell out to the money lenders.
ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST-DENYING BULLSHIT
Okay my biggest question about the supposed non-existence of concentration camps AS death camps has to do with captured American G.I. reports.
G.I.'s were taken to Buchenwald and other camps after capture. They tell of the same gruesome stories the jews do. People dragged out and shot, people being fed bread made of sawdust, and the sick being given death shots by syringe and lots more horrors. It's well recorded that concentration camps were in fact death camps orchestrated by the Nazis.
Are the surviving captured American G.I.'s and pilots lying too do you suppose? They were there, they witnessed a death camp and they did everything they could do to stay alive while they were there.
"To say that Jesus is not coming back reveals ignorance at best and open rebellion at worst. Inbetween, maybe it's just cynicism? He said He IS coming back and that means He IS coming back - and He will be greeted by His true followers If you don't believe it, you may yet live to SEE it - and THEN believe it (like Thomas) :O"
Did he say this to you directly, face to face, in this lifetime? Or are you relying on books written by men with agendas? He did his turn, give him a break. There will be others, probably accorded the same type of treatment, though, as people do fear what they haven't seen/heard before. There were others that came before him and there will be others to follow. All religions contain some of the truth of those who inspired them but all have been distorted, most rather severely as time goes by. And I'm afraid those of the Judeo/Christian variety fall into the more severe catagory due to the influence of the humans who bent them to their own will. It's ok, we're all on a long learning curve here and you can certainly believe whatever you like. You might want to consider that most religions are full of petty, temporal nonsense that has no significance beyond this world where the higher spirits dwell.
" ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST-DENYING BULLSHIT"
Well, I haven't investigated the holocaust nor was I even alive at the time, so I couldn't say one way or another. I do find it rather curious that people are routinely thrown in jail for trying, though. Since every new investigation would provide a fresh spotlight onto the tragedy. Would probably make much more of an impact than yet another museum.
Here is an idea. Instead of boycotting Israel, boycott America.
Israel is hard to boycott. Their exports are few. Also, Israelis have a siege mentality. The boycott will just make them even more insane. Israel is like a psychotic with a gun. He cannot be reasoned with.
The US on the other hand is a perfect candidate for an embargo. The embargo should demand: Stop supporting and arming Israel, or the people of the world will bankrupt you.
This can work. Mainstream Americans are indifferent to Israel. They tolerate the Zionist politicians because their support for Israel does not directly hurt them. However, if this support starts hurting their jobs and the economy they will vote the Zionists out.
The mechanics of this boycott are very simple: Wherever you have a choice buy non-American. Don't buy from American stores. Don't buy American products. Use Linux instead of Microsoft. Look for European or Asian or even Canadian substitutes for US products. Watch CBC instead of PBS. Eat at Harveys instead of McDonalds. Shop at Canadian Tire instead of Wal-Mart.
People in the US can also boycott the US as much as possible. Avoid the mega-corps. Only buy from companies that outsource all their jobs. Lou Dobbs is a good source on this. Don't buy American cars. Buy Japanese or European cars instead. Move your money out of the American bank into European or Canadian banks.
Bush is already busy destroying the economy. So even the slight nudge that this boycott produces should send it spiralling down. Once the US comes to its senses trade can be resumed.
Also, don't click on Google ads.
Band of gypsies,
"Many say the Zionists seized upon this and actually worked with the Nazis during WW2 to 'fulfill' the prophecy. Others say that 6 million weren't actually killed during WW2"
Who says this? Your mother?
Great use of sources.
I have heard that "others" have said that 6 million Jews were captured by space aliens, and another "group" suggetsing that they moved to Fredonia with Rufus T. Firefly.
Word of advice:
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!
You moron, Buchenwald wasn't even one of the supposed extermination camps. Go buy a book, any book as long as it has some basic scholarly credentials.
P.S., for the benefit of tigs and co., I do not deny that some christians do excellent intellectual work, especially the traditional catholics like Mike Jones, but I tend to think this is because you can build a worthwhile moral system on any basis, however random. In the end however the deficiencies of the basis will come back to hobble you, as those of christianity have done us (namely its structural ambiguity about judaism, an ambiguity fortunately absent from islam).
The BBC is reporting that poor old Gibson has been arrested for funding terrorism:
http://www.bbclosangeles.com/
BBC...n_Terrorism.htm
Some may wonder whether I would make such sweeping statements about Islam, incidentally. My answer is that I see the Qur'an as a ne exercise in damage limitation regarding the previous two texts, the Jewish and Christan basic scripture. If you read the Qur'an, you will notice that a great part of it consists of critical commentary on the most dangerous bits of the Tanach and Injil ('old & new testaments').
Better make sure you are sitting down before you read this (and if you are Cjenn, practice some deep breathing first as well):
http://web.israelinsider.com/Art...lomacy/
8997.htm
'You go a bit crazy when you see little body after little body coming up out of the ground'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/syria/...usrc=rss&
feed=1
The www.BBCLosAngeles.com site looks fake. The story does not appear on bbc.co.uk.
I think you are right, it is fake, it's good though innit?
Re Israel Insider...
Israel's war criminals investigate their their own war crimes...
And this is what passes for unbiased independence in Israel.
Well now, Jack the zipper, I can only assume that you figured all that out like a necromancer looking throuh your glass bellybutton.
We will be watching to see if you really know your shit.
How the heck are going to ever figure anything out next time if you haven't got a clue what happend last time.
Not only that, you jumped to the conclusion (wrong one btw) that I ever supported Bush. He sold us all out; Including the conservatives.
Who didn't know that Kerry was a retard? Did it dawn on you just now or something?
Interesting stuff here:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/
The 'Berkley' immediately above clearly is not me, and as such I don't particularly mind - only the very unobservant would confuse us.
Great stuff - all of you contributors to this thread (including those using Israeli Foreign Ministry Megaphone software - those messages stand out like turds in a swimming pool).
Before the Arab/Israeli boycott was declared illegal, worldwide, by America (as if it was any of their business) you couldn't buy Coca-Cola or any Columbia records in Arab countries.
I didn't much miss Coke, but having to buy Elvis and Frank Sinatra records under the counter in Beirut was only a slight inconvenience, and Ford cars were crap anyway.
But be careful - all Palestinian exports have to go through Israel (and pay Israeli taxes) so your boycott on Jaffa oranges might just cut off the little trickle that gets down to the Palestinian farmer who grew them - if he hasn't already had them destroyed by having the stupidity to grow them in a 'security zone.
Go for Israeli hi-tech - you can get better and cheaper stuff from India, China, Taiwan, and Malaysia.
Or quietly do what my village did three years ago - say to any young ex-IDF surfers that there's no room in the inns for arrogant, racially superior prats who've been conditioned to treat any brown-skinned locals, anywhere, like their Palestian and Lebanese neighbours.
regards
Richard
It is interesting to note that Rice is attempting to create a situation where a French force has to accept responsibility for what an Israeli force is doing:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp...6080200266.html
France isn't cooperating.
You suggest "This boycott should extend to all Jewish-owned or -controlled businesses." Why not just put up the signs the Germans did in 1938 around the time of Kristallnacht, 'Die Juden sind unser ungluck'...
Also: "When Hitler took power in 1933, Der Stuermer was already one of the most popular Nazi publications, selling about twenty-five thousand copies weekly. By then its anti-Semitic campaign was in full swing... With the slogan "Die Juden sind unser Ungluck" ("The Jews are our misfortune"), the weekly reached a circulation of about half a million copies by 1938..."
Jeff, seriously, the fact that everyone reacts like that disables the feedback loop that should inform Jews collectively when they are heading up shit creek.
check these out, especially the final three photos:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/fo...283&
postcount=6
While I don't like what the Green Party did to Nader and still think it's been taken over by Dem operatives, I do like its platform:
http://www.gp.org/platform/2004/
...acy.html#310677
especially,
"d. We reject the U.S.' unbalanced financial and military support of Israel while Israel occupies Palestinian lands. We call on the U.S. President and Congress to end all military aid to Israel, shifting much of that aid to ecologically appropriate local projects for economic and social development for Palestinians as well as Israelis. Until Israel withdraws from the Occupied Territories and dismantles the separation wall, we call on our government to suspend all other foreign aid to Israel as well"
Throw away your cellphones and Intel processors, too. (Lots of primary R&D being done in the Zionist entity).
And stop innoculating your kids with vaccines (e.g. polio)developed by Jews.
Although, from the sound of it, it seems like many of you rather enjoy innoculating kids, if you get my drift.
bandofgypsies:
Thanks for that thoughtful reply It's refreshing to see reason instead of emotion at work in this blog.
There is, as usual, a lot of truth in what you write BUT, in the case of Jesus the Christ (and both the Old and New Testament) we are dealing with a very unique person, situation and writings sourced from various people over a very long timespan. These writings (Holy Scripture) are recognized by believers as "The Word of God", that is, inspired by God directly and therefore true, although written by men.
The Torah writing by the Jewish prophet Jeremiah (chapter 53) is a good example because it prophesied the coming of Christ (and what that means) many years before He actually arrived on the scene. Also, the Bible Codes embedded in the Old Testament and now being discovered (NOT the da Vinci codes!) accurately describe events occurring today (Sharon's coma, for example)
See http://www.biblecodedigest.com
The bottom line is that Holy Scripture is Divinely inspired and therefore true - in a manner which defies all explanation of 'chance' or mathematical probability. And that means that when Christ said (as recorded by various people as His words which found their way into Holy Scripture) "I will come again", it means that He WILL come again
The circumstances described above are unique to Christ and the Holy Scriptures! The fact that many people have added interpretations which were never there (like the Roman Catholic Church, for example) does not contradict its inherent Truth. God has warned about adding anything or changing anything in His Word :O That does not mean that very useful and edifying explanations of His Word cannot be written and be valid. Many such God-inspired explanations have been and are continuing to be written!
Do you believe that Colombus discovered America and did you talk to him to believe it?
GodSend--
No, actually I don't believe ole Chris discovered America since there were people already here. And there's this other evidence concerning the Vikings--
Some of the prophets really did have psychic ability and some were just faking it- just like today. When they compiled the Bible, they went back and rewrote their prophesies to fit the later events. Like I said, they did leave some original truth but
it has to come down to belief because there is no proof. Jesus really was married to Magdalene but most of the rest of Da Vinci
story is false. We'll just have to agree to disagree, which is ok with me.
It seems almost pointless to state that the historical facts about Jesus are of no relevance, what matters is the beliefs, all of which are distractions from the world as it is, which is the one we have to try to defend.
Nice work assholes:
"Anti-Israel vandals defaced some 20 Jewish shops in Rome. Fliers signed by a group calling itself the Armed Revolutionary Fascists included pro-Hezbollah slogans and condemned the “Zionist economy,” The Associated Press reported. Rome’s mayor condemned the vandalism."
This is what you and your ilk have wrought. I'm sure you're very proud of yourselves too. I suggest you watch some film of Kristallnacht for some further ideas. You guys are evil, pure evil.
PLEASE LOOK AT THIS:
It is the most complete (relevent to this conversation) writing on what Jews can/should do to non Jews..also please take a few minutes to note the comments...leave one yourself..
the photos are great also.......
PEOPLE ARE VERY ANGRY....why not bridge the gap instead the spending hours here going back and forth...meet some of the victims:
www.flickr.com/photos/35476313@
NO/193953983/
also: this will get you there--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/354...s/3547631#@NOO/
http://www.flickr.comphotos/phoenician/
www.flickr.com photos/jennvaca
(Only the last is not from the M.E.)
You should read the anger and frustration---leave a message!!!!!
last one:
www.flickr.comphotos/i-click
If you click on the thumbnail--it will being up the larger picture + all the comments and a comment box--
if you scroll to the top and click
GROUPS...you will see many, many more people trying to get the message out and across.
THE ABOVE POSTINGS DEAL directly with the accusation tha Hiz. uses human shields...as they need a TRUCK to fire off the missiles..can't be done from someone's house!!!!
Some good ideas..about what we have been discussing..I think.
PLEASE TAKE A LOOK!!!
* Okay my biggest question about the supposed non-existence of concentration camps *
I can't even be bothered to name the poster who posted the above. It is though, a perfect example of someone quoting something that has supposedly been previously posted - but actually hadn't been .
Of course there were concentration camps -- my father, as an English soldier helped liberate them. However, nobody here ever said there weren't. That there were, is indisputable. What some have disputed are the numbers of Jewish deaths therein.
But I for one never play that game. It's a stupid and tasteless game. It only brings disrepute on those who do, and simultaneously helps destroy the credibility as far as 'anything' else they espouse is concerned.
And, here is wisdom: credibility is like virginity -- once it's gone -- it's gone for ever.
** On the Jesus topic, I stand with those who say;"I have no problems with Jesus. My problem, is his fanatical fans."
Didn't Amerigo Vespucci 'discover' America, by the way? Isn't it named after him?
Is 'Hornsby' suggesting that every political critic in the world is responsible for maintaining every other political critic in the world in a state of perpetual judeophilia? That seems a bit much to hope for.
bandofgypsies; Rowan Berkeley:
Were you at the wedding? Have you seen a duly authenticated wedding certificate? Have you seen people alter Scripture before they became the Bible?
BUT, you're right again - while there exists a lot of 'evidence' about Jesus and His life and works and words, it is ultimately a matter of belief! Actually, a better word than belief is Grace - the Grace of God to make one SEE Truth. You and I are not the first or last to disagree on these matters - and that's OK. One day (soon) we will all SEE who was right
People act on the basis of what they believe - therefore, what they believe is very relevant. And, facts (Truth) have a persistent habit of surfacing, to the annoyance of people (like Bush) who want us to believe their hogwash deceptions :O When beliefs collide with facts (Truth), many people prefer to stick their head in the sand rather than admit that they are wrong - nasty consequences notwithstanding. Truth will ultimately conquer all erroneous beliefs :O It's Truth that sets us free from the chains of ignorance or delusion It's Grace that allows us to SEE God's Truths and that saves our butts from the destiny we deserve :O It's Faith in the unseen that makes us worthy of Salvation. Faith goes WAY beyond facts - but does not contradict them!
Old Brit:
So you would like to put Jesus on the 'historical artifact' shelf to admire from afar and collect dust, do you? - rather than acknowledge Him as mankind's ONLY path to eternal life as preached by His followers? ('fanatical fans' - that's redundant, btw)
Too bad for you - because He and His followers impact your life whether you like it (or know it) or not! :O Don't you want to become a New Brit after the Old Brit cashes in his chips?
With all due respect to Old Brit, just because your father saw dead people in a camp, it does not follow they died of a systematic programme of extermination.
The Holocaust TM is so last century, but if some people use it as reason to kill Arabs, you ought not to try restricting debate on this issue. There is a lot of research on the other side as well, you know, and I don't think it reflects on anyone that choses to pursue it.
And speaking of death camps, anyone here read James Bacques' "Other Losses" which details how from 600,000- 1 million German POWs died of deliberate starvation under the direct orders of General Eisenhower?
And as an old Brit, would you consider Churchill to be a War Criminal or not? He did bomb Arab tribes in Iraq and start the Blitz by bombing German cities FIRST.
'Roger Hornsby'complains because 20 Jewish shopkeepers fingernails got vandalised in Rome. The poor dears!
Now if 20 Jewish villages were destroyed, and Tel Aviv pulverised, and a million Jews became refugees, and over 25000 killed and wounded, I might be arsed to be bothered. Or maybe not.
Anyone notice how 'Hornsbill' predicted Kristallnacht II in response to the coup call then 20 shops get vandalised in Rome? One of those self-fulfilling things perhaps, but I know his response already. I'm an anti-semite and unrepentant Nazi. 
Dirtdigger,
Give us a link to show where the below info is reported.
"Okay my biggest question about the supposed non-existence of concentration camps AS death camps has to do with captured American G.I. reports."
What reports? By who? When? Where?
A British Web site, the EU Referendum blog, built an argument that chicanery may have been involved by citing time stamps that went with captions of the photographs.
For example, the Web site draws attention to a photo by AP's Lefteris Pitarakis time stamped 7:21 a.m., showing a dead girl in an ambulance. Another picture, stamped 10:25 a.m. and taken by AP's Mohammed Zaatari, shows the same girl being loaded onto the ambulance. In a third, by AP photographer Nasser Nasser and stamped 10:44 a.m., a rescue worker carries the girl with no ambulance nearby.
The site suggests these events were staged for effect, a criticism echoed by talk show host Rush Limbaugh when he directed listeners to the blog on Monday.
"These photographers are obviously willing to participate in propaganda," Limbaugh said. "They know exactly what's being done, all these photos, bringing the bodies out of the rubble, posing them for the cameras, it's all staged. Every bit of it is staged and the still photographers know it."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20060...ideast_photos_1
Take note, especially, of the dead baby girl, covered in dust. With the immaculate, shiny blue pacifier. Nice touch!
It seems that my badly spelled twin is engaging in a bit of eisegesis here (reading things into the text) - this is a common outcome of delusional thinking, one begins to see what one wants to see. Assuming of course there is any sincerity left in these people to begin with.
In fact, this reminds me of the supposed aerial photo that showed Hamas people moving Qassams in an ambulance - that turned out to be bullshit in the end, too:
http://fromoccupiedpalestine.org...ode.php?
id=1429
Because, you know, the valiant freedom fighters if Hizballah would never do anything to endanger civilians.
Remember, if anything bad happens anywhere, there was a Jew behind it!
NO exceptions.
And remember, "fromoccupiedpalestine" is a completely objective source.
whatever would you guys do without sarcasm?
Godsend,
"He" never knew you. You don't even know the difference between the old and new testaments. In fact you show similiar ignorance re: the difference betwee "God" and "Jesus".
Don't fret too much though, you'll be forgiven - for you know not what you do.
Boycott war,
Get real. Grow up.
There's a much simpler explanation for Hornsby's certainty. It's the defining trait of right wingers to drink their own bathwater and then allow their enthusiasm to triumph over commonsense. When the blowback arrives, as it always does, they immediately start looking for somebody else to blame.
Now, when it's too late, Hornsby decides the global reaction to Israel's war crimes in Lebanon is 'disproportionate'... And it's all Xymph's fault.
If I were Hornsby, or Airhead, I'd be signing up for a crash course in diplomacy, to try to persuade Vlad the Putin that he doesn't need a well-defended naval base, with big teeth, in Syria. Vlad has a reputation for treating Israel's cowards and liars with the contempt they deserve.
“Since Hizbullah doesn't broadcast news of their casualties, I think the damage Israel is doing to its fighting strength on the ground is likely being understated." xymphora says.
More over underestimated disingenous propagandizing?
Actually, I agree. It's probably a lot worse than it looks from both directions.
Hizbullah understates their military casulties. Israel understates their civlian casulties. It is part of the war propaganda, to marginalize the success and exaggerate the failures of the other side.
Old Brit:
It's time to change your name to Senile Brit :O Your unsubstantiated accusations indicate that your grey matter is no longer working Go and watch the Tele and don't reveal your ignorance by opening your mouth to speak - eating is OK though, I suppose
"Israel understates their civlian casulties" - WHAT? Are you some sort of idiot? Or maybe you don't read the press, or don't actually absorb what your eyes see when you do read it. Your brain is empty of observations, my friend, you should spare us your posts. Let me give you a little clue, in case you have one or two still living brain cells to rub together : "x number of people were said to be suffering from shock"... does that ring a bell?
It's interesting to hear myself described as a right winger! I've never voted Republican and I'm a strong supporter of gay rights, higher taxes on the rich, and free healthcare. Supporting Israel, the only country for example where gay people have rights, is part of that liberal ideology I embrace. You guys can pretend you're anti-neocon all you want. You're Jew haters or Jew deniers, or just bigots.
I have always maintained that all this left right verbiage misses the point.
Perhaps you're right Rowan. Left wing and right wing differences seem simple when compared to normal people versus suicidal maniacs and their enablers. P.S. I'm the one against the suicidal maniacs.
Hornybee on the other hand's all for the HOMICIDAL maniacs, and
Ol'Brit, by refusing to debate, concedes that Churchill was one too.
And remember, "fromoccupiedpalestine" is a completely objective source.
Rowan Berkely | 08.03.06 - 7:28 am | #
whatever would you guys do without sarcasm?
Rowan Berkeley | 08.03.06 - 8:08 am | #
In other words, "fromoccupiedpalestine"
is a completely non-objective source.
Remember that accusations are often confessions.
Like Horseperspire's drinking his own bathwater, and MJ's trolling.
So this time Rowan, you get to be the idiot.
Ask yourself, Why would they say that?
They are telling Hezbullah that they are disturbing the peace, and traumatizing (terrorizing) the citizens, but they didn't hit anything. They are saying it is not your fault for lack of trying. Like attempted murder; So that IDF feels justified in making a crater from where ever these rockets came from.
I doubt if Israel really even wants Hezbullah to cease fire yet. x markes the spot. They want to be able bomb them until they can no longer shoot back; take them out, take all their rockets out, stop the resupply lines, and have it all be their own damn fault.
Maybe, idiot, you should also quit bragging about being able to read between the lines.
Maybe, Righty, you shouldn't brag about being able to read, period. Could you give one example where a highly mechanised army defeated a popular querilla movement? History shows the reverse, in Vietnam and Afghanistan, Lebanon in 2000. You just might be one of Macnamara's acolytes, and bombing people from 20,000 feet may be just about what your anaerobic mind can appreciate, but, it just doesn't work.
So go ahead and turn Lebanon into a parking lot, you don't have to pay the price. You think.
How about boycotting StarKing?
Three quarters down the page on this site:
http://team8plus.org/e107_plugin...opic.php?
366.10
Check out who owns the company and in what country it is registered. Also notice what their specialty is.
Your high mindedness is appalling, General Boycott.
I didn't say it was right. Only that is what it says "between the lines, idiot" Given that "they" control all the media, why would they say what they said?
I think you are making my point better than your own. Thanks.
None of those "gorilla wars" were lost on the ground by the superior military but by the politicians and with the propaganda war. "Hearts and minds"
There was always "Paris peace talks, demilitarized zones, 39th Parallels, etc. You know, "road maps to peace" "rules of engagement" that forced the military to "show restraint" which the other side was not bound by. So don't get all sanctimonious about who won what skirmish.
This is the very reason that Israel is targeting the "infrastructure". That is the only way to defeat this kind of enemy strategically and they know it.
A military campaign might declare, "Mission Accomplished" but with "freedom fighters" its a fight to the death to very last man.
"Deception is the greater part of valor" ... uh hum... ( Note to self: go find your list of murdered metaphors) lol
This war will end, however, with an act of God. That's my humble opinion.
But ya'll can shoot yourself.
"This is what you and your ilk have wrought. I'm sure you're very proud of yourselves too. I suggest you watch some film of Kristallnacht."
Kristallnacht was the outcome of an international Jewish boycott of German goods and the Zionist prewar declaration of war against Germany.
Below:
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com...es/
jdecwar.html
After the Zionist betrayal of Germany, in 1919, at Versailles:
http://jahtruth.co.uk/freedman.htm
The German people had enough!
Jewish store owners became the obvious scapegoat for German anger, just as the Zionist were hoping for. Zionism needed an expelled "Jewish" population to inhabit the new Zionist State to give it credibility as its "original" homeland at the expense of the Semite Arab population that pre dated the fabricated hoax of an historic "Israel".
Ask any archeologist outside (or even some inside) of Israel and they would agree.
History tends to support Boycott War's view of the success of popular guerilla movements. This raises two interesting questions:
- What is the real purpose of maintaining a hugely expensive military machine which will almost certainly be defeated by guerillas in the direct confrontation following an invasion?
- Should successful guerilla forces lay down their arms when the invader is expelled, or should they then commit themselves to infiltrating the homeland of the invader and waging a guerilla war against its systems and citizens until it collapses in chaos?
Well I apologise for being so irritated, but the assertion that Israel minimises its own civilian casualties is the opposite of the truth. The formula "x number were lightly injured (by shards of glass etc) and y number (a much greater number) are being treated for shock" has now given way to an inclusive figure which includes the so-called 'shock victims'). This allows wild over-estimation of casualties, and is typical sanctimonious jewish zionist hypocrisy - by these criteria, the entire populations of the Muslim, and especially Arab, worlds qualify as casualties, since they have been subjected to a hell of a lot more shock (and awe) deliberately than the poxy israeli bystanders have.
Rowan, I'm sure you have read Sun Tzu.
http://www.chinapage.com/sunzi-e.html
I 18. All warfare is based on deception.
That's probably why Israel is so good at it. lol
rotflmfao
"That's probably why Israel is so good at [warfare]."
Hah! Good one! Your sarcasm is priceless.
"That's probably why Israel is so good at [warfare]."
Hah! Good one! Your sarcasm is priceless.
The Judith Coburn article introduced here by Tom Engelhardt is effin' excellent:
http://www.tomdispatch.com/index...html?
pid=107613
"...and I will leave you there and melt you"
Coburn's article is way too long. She should be able to trim it down to a single paragraph. At least no trees were harmed.
According to jewish zionist calculations, being blinded or losing limbs qualifies as "moderate injury."
that one isn't me, it's another literal clone - easy guide, anyone scoring propaganda points for the IDF in my name is not me.
This Old Brit does NOT debate. That's made clear every so often at my blog. However, on the subject of Churhil I 'll say this befor becoming bogged down for any longer on this single thread.
Surprise, surprise. Churchill sent armed troops with fixed bayonets up to Liverpool [my city] to quel protesting dockers[longshoremen] during the General Strike. That samed dad of mine who fought the European savages of GERMANY's NAZI war machine, was in civilian life a docker. Ironic, eh? Troops in uniforn against troops out of uniform.
Churchill also sent troops to 'quel' the protesting Welsh miners.
And did you not realise that IMMEDIATELY WW2 ended, the Brit public kicked Churchill out on his arse - out of office, that is.
He's always been more of a peoples' hero in America than he has in Britain. Though many with vested interest loved him and honoured him and helped perpetuate the myths about the man.
In short Churchill was a coniving, opportunist, heartless, "b". But life is mysterious. Hitler was the same. It took 'one' to take the other 'one' on, full frontal as it were.
Neither of the two preceding comments were posted by me.
get out of my fucking face, ok?
Old Brit, that is why Churchill said: "History will treat me kindly, for I will write it."
I can see why you dont debate. Never go into a battle of wits unarmed.
(just kidding)
Not to worry, Rowan, Nobody is scoring any points in your name lately.
(just kidding again)
Rhy T:
'This war will end, however, with an act of God'
You're right, but you're only part right! A lot more than this war will End - notice the capital 'E' For details, visit my Homepage.
Have a nice weekend, y'all!
no way will I visit some 'end times' fellow's home page.
Rowan:
You weren't invited And, it's definitely NOT what you think it is - guaranteed!
yes it is, it's horrible - take a look at the professional god squad page:
http://www.samliquidation.com/lo...m/
lordjesus.htm
-- you don't have to agree with Bob Pickle to see that he cares more about his material than he does about his theology.
Rowan:
Does that mean you peeked? :O If so, you will NEVER be the same
PS to Rowan:
It will indeed be horrible to/for you if you're on the outside looking in
PPS to Rowan:
My site and Pickle's are as different as pickles and a banana sundae with chocolate syrup and whipped cream
yeah well at least bob pickle doesnt make me want to puke with his whorishness, like you do
Ok I looked, GS, OH MY!
After restarting my crashed firefox browser (when a page wont load in firefox it does a brainfart for some reason) and making sure it was in IE, then waiting (and waiting and waiting) for it load, then scrolling through; I only saw one link that looked interesting but it wouldn't open so I gave up.
I think your religion needs some clarity. It's too much like that webpage.
I'm always interested in End Times prophecy, but that was just too much "other stuff" for me to sort through.
Way too much whipped cream and not enough Sunday for me. lol
Rowan:
You are most welcome to puke all over yourself! 'Whoreishness'? - I doubt that you know what the word means! You sound like a 4-year old (make that 2)
Rhy T:
The site gets over 4,500,000 hits/year and about 100 extended visits/day from over 75 countries. I suggest that you get a new PC and DSL! Lotsa people on dial-up give up, though 
PS to Rowan:
Puking is an effect of exorcism - when evil spirits are aroused in your innards by confronting the testimony of Christ or symbols of the Cross. I suggest you keep going back until you're all puked out and the evil spirits have fled your body :O Some pigs, cats or dogs in the vicinity when you're looking would help (for the evil spirits to flee into)
GodSend, you need a major redesign, may I suggest "Web Style Guide" by Patrick J. Lynch and Sarah Horton, Yale University.
Flashing GIFs gave me a headache.
You need to tabulate your information.
Needs to not take so long to load; most folk still have dial up.
And on a personal note, don't be holier than those who disagree with thou
While I appreciate the endtimes perspective, I fear you've fallen prey to the Bible Code crowd. It's easy to reverse engineer a logarithm which can come up with whatever interpretation anyone with an agenda could wish for, and it's been debunked already. Gematria's fun, but obscure enough to leave most people scartching their heads.
Really, you get that much traffic? I'm genuinely impressed.
A new PC is a great idea. One with a memory chip maybe?
I agree with Boycotts web design suggestion. Remember content, content content.
What is making it take so long to load is all the graphics on one page. Thumbnail, organize, and put some of them on other pages maybe?
All that fancy alloverthedamnpagecrap is only distracting. My personal pet peeve though, is pages that have to be scrolled sideways. Use percentage no more than about 70% That alone might actually make it tolerable.
My connection isn't that bad, I just hate waiting for stuff like that. It's like the old saying, "Too many rocks in the beans" You don't dare bite down on anything. lol
God Send,
Your site reminds me of the Dickens character Miss HaverSHAM!
Kinda like a projected display of your own self righteousness and glee for those who will be punished in your twisted understanding of the Book of the Revelation. Will vengence be yours, or, "God's"?
It's so gaudy and flashy that it makes me wonder why you don't have a monopoly on all the contracts for the Los Vegas area billboard business!
I dismiss your site as a demonstration of the practical atheism of the American version of the self "chosen".
"The first shall be last and the last shall be first".
Throw away your Old Testament and voluteer at a community kitchen. Get dirty and humbled and you'll see the face of God in the people you serve.
(Post Man: Please return "God Send" to "Sender"!)
Sum ergo cogito!
GodSend, does the contact link go directly to you personally?
Also, corny wav. file tunes played on a hammond or something which start up the moment one opens the page is usually a trademark of masonic sites. ha ha ha.
bandofgypsies,
Concerning God Send:
"To say that Jesus is not coming back reveals ignorance at best and open rebellion at worst. In-between, maybe it's just cynicism? He said He IS coming back and that means He IS coming back - and He will be greeted by His true followers If you don't believe it, you may yet live to SEE it - and THEN believe it (like Thomas) :O"
This is the basic problem with a literal interpretations of the New Testament let alone the Book of Revelation. THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST IS IN MAN'S HEART, not outside of himself.
One makes a literal statement about Christ and the second person argues against the literal statement with logic? That is why one is initiated into this faith because it is a process not an intellectual exercise.
Catholicism is really not a rational nor irrational faith! It is non-rational, that is, mystical faith. Even it's morality is accidental to its practice. It can't be logically or scientifically defined. It's a state of being. Even few Catholics, Priest and laity, understand this.
The author of the Book of Revelation had to write in a metaphorical code, otherwise he would have been accused of sedition by Rome and executed.
I'll give one example of what I mean (for I am often reminded by our fellow blogers that this is not a pulpit for preaching).
From Desire of the Everlasting Hills, by Thomas Cahill:
"The 'Beast' is a "man" known to everyone. A well known historical figure, whose name "adds up" to 666. The Hebrew alphabet has numerical values and contained no vowels. The name of the emperor under whom the Jesus Movement's two greatest "prophets" were executed (Peter and Paul) was Nero Caesar, in Greek Neron Kaisar, in unvoweled Hebrew nrwn qsr or, giving these consonants their conventional numerical value, 50+200+6+50+100+60+200, which equal 666. The Beast is the Roman empire-more precisely, all the cruelties of Roman political domination-personified by Nero Caesar."
This is the level of hidden metaphor, throughout which, the whole Book of Revelations is written. The New Testament is a Hellenic (Jewish Mystery Schools, i.e., the Essene) response to the Old Testament God. It's a Mythos (The Greek word originally meaning, a truth). It is the necessary inner dialog on how humanity might define one's relation with the "other" guest, that is, other human beings, that includes non-Jews! A radical departure and rejection of the angry God of the Old Testament.
This is just an example of how complicated these writings are to the uninitiated mind.
This is why there is so much debate on a subject by people who haven't a clue about what they are talking about. I would go crazy if I tried to reconcile the Old and New Testaments.
This is, by the way, why the Catholic Church has Greek, not Hebrew, as its official language. Latin being its traditional language. The Reformation was a return to the discarded focus of the Hebrew book. Now you know why we have the phenomenon of Zionist Christians!
Actually, it's closer to 5 million hits/year - and growing
Thanks for all those interesting suggestions on how to improve the site BUT what is written is written, including HOW it is written Remember that patience is a virtue! And, Christ IS coming back IN PERSON, with "power and great glory" (read Matthew) To deny that is apostasy.
You may not believe now but you will believe later - not much later, btw Note that all prophesies are supported by Scripture, both the Old and New Testaments.
And DO read the links, especially the words spoken/written by Theodore Austin-Sparks.
Finally, pay attention to world events and you will see the prophesies fulfilled :O If you become a regular visitor, you will see new pieces of The Puzzle added all the Time (that's left
PS to Boycott Israel:
Go to http://www.biblecodedigest.org and read everything on that site! Then comment again about Bible Codes and their significance.
I think I'd rather read David Icke.
I dont have any problem reconciling Old and New Testement. Christ said, "Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life, but they are they which testify of me."
GodSend, I have no doubt that all the prophecy will be fulfilled, but you can also about be guranteed that it will be somewhat, (or a lot) different than you think. Why? Because it always is.
Did you not answer about your contact link on purpose. Ok fine. lol I was just contemplating shareing a little of my inspired poetry. No big deal.
Rhy T:
I like poetry - but I NEVER open questionable email with attachments. In fact, I don't even open email unless it's from someone I know and trust. I made that mistake once and that's enough Why not publish your poetry on your own website and people can read it there? (or post it in your own Blog or here)
The prophesies are general in nature - that's the nature of prophesies vs predictions. I'm sure there'll be many variations on how and exactly when they will be fulfilled (some of them have already been fulfilled or are in the process of being fulfilled
One more comment about my website. It's there for people to find and read. What happens after that is none of my business. It's between God and the viewer - I've done my (small) part. Sorta like Martin Luther nailing his theses on the church door (he didn't ask people what they thought of them and, as far as I know, he didn't make any changes because some people didn't like them Whether people love it, like it, hate it, weep, puke or get dizzy is a reflection of themselves. The fact that there are a large number or repeat visitors from all over the world is a sign that they are interested in what I have to say - there is no other place in cyberspace that I know of that has quite the same explanation of The Puzzle that every one of us is trying to solve :O
The Old Testament left to itself created the Thulmud, its mindsets are found in usury, black mail, international finance capital, distortion of event's in world history, a "chosen" criminal network, wars and deception effecting generations, it has perfected the "lie", a return to Babel, a disorientation of our creaturliness and its relation to the creation, the black sciencess and an unconscious hatred of the essence of being and therefore the mass disregard for the "other" of our species, cold blooded genocide.
Its offspring is Job. This is because
their "G-d" enters into a dualistic dialog with the "Devil" concerning Job's loyalty, at the expense of Job!
As though "God" takes pleasure in his cruality just to prove a point! Sadism has to have its Masochist? What a message!
Job remains faithful. Now God speaks to the President of the United States each morning to do His bidding! He hears voices that guide him on his policy making? So much for the burning, and slaughtering, Bush in the White House!
God Send,
Your recommended link is no longer availible.
God Send,
I found the website, its a .com.
It's all Old Teatament interpretions of the New Testament writings!
It's completely a reversed approach to
to the Gospels?
Your a Zionist Christian aren't you?
This thread has been hijacked by people with nothing to say and all the time in the world to say it.
The most effective boycott is one arising from individual conscience. In the War on Terror context it doesn't matter if a few innocents suffer. That's what Zion's War on Terror is all about - punishing the innocent along with the guilty. A 1% drop in turnover doesn't sound like much but if it is repeated every month it will cause a larger than 1% per month drop in the price of the corporation's stock. People should make up their own mind about what to boycott and do some sleuthing to expand and fine tune it.
Rhy T,
http://www.idmr.net/history.htm
"Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life, but they are they which testify of me."
So Moses spoke of a Messiah and Jesus said that the Jews have not recognized him. Well?
How could Henry C. Kinley, Ph.D., Founder of True Gospel, not abandon the Old Testament when Jesus was rejected by the Jews? I guess we no longer have need of a New Testament?
Christ was not expected to be the one.
Henry Kinley is a Hebraic/Zionist Christian. The Christians chose the voice of the Greek language and not the old voice of Moses and the Hebrews. It was left behind because they didn't (the Jews) recognize the Messiah! Hebrew is still the voice of the people who rejected the "Christ" (in Greek, The Anointed One).
As a matter of fact if you actually place all the writings of the Old Testament on a time line, you find that "God" stopped talking to the Jews for many years and then suddenly the New Testament breaks the silence and the Jews execute Christ!
Kinley is a church all of his own. The new and improved "chosen" one, that is.
Tiger Eye:
I'm a Zionist Christian? You must be kidding! Go back to my Homepage and read it thoroughly. I'm about as far away from a Zionist Christian as you can get :O In fact, true Christians CAN'T be Zionists - it's an oxymoron.
http://www.biblecodedigest.com decodes embedded 'messages' from the Old Testament which were placed there many years ago by 'you-know-Who'! They have nothing to do with the New Testament. Read the article about the mathematician who became convinced that these codes can't be 'accidents' - the probability is too low. The decoded message about Sharon's coma is a good case-in-point. There are many other examples - new ones are being decoded all the time. These messages CANNOT be coincidence!
We might be getting slightly 'off topic' in this thread but only slightly! The topic is what to do about Israel running amok and trying to subjugate the world in a NWO. Gaza and Lebanon are just the most recent examples. A boycott is one option but it's not nearly fast enough to stop the Israeli/Zionist juggernaut of madness, murder and mayhem. The Spider must be killed - and soon! Rhy T and I agree that God will do it Himself (as prophesied in the Torah but that doesn't mean that humanity should not RESIST (the Devil)!
What a moron. Do a statistics course.
GodSend,
Please understand that I hold no personal aim to question your intentions, but please read the following, it's just my interest of in
your subject matter.
McKay, said on national TV (the History Channel) that if he placed a page from Moby Dick on the three dimensional grid using the same program for the "code" he would be able to find similar legible references to all kinds of subjects. The grid is three dimensional and therefore one would discover an infinite amount of possibilities to find similar occurrences of text related to all kinds of words and subjects. He was challenged to prove it. Guess what? He did!
The Orthodox Jews who made this claim, while being interviewed, were deceiving themselves, especially when they claimed that the attack on 911 was predicted by the code. Interestingly, the code could not predict an event that had not yet happened. But with an infinite amount of possibilities one could certainly find short sentences and words that one would eventually claim where of "mystical" origin.
http://www.biblecodedigest.com/p...om/page.php/
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This is Ouija Board theology. One Hassidim, on the show, suggested that the Torah may have been written by Aliens?
"I contacted Bible Code expert Brendan McKay"? Expert? He means debunker.
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugi...ugim/
torah.html
It is Tabloid theology.
I'm sure your a decent person and I wish you well. We are all God Sent.
We should be trying to simplify the Bible, not make it more complicated. Less debate and more honesty.
Personally, I resent all this "rabbinical logic". It's as archaic as mind control. This idea that we must have some chanting guru mystic rabbi to dissect, permutate, (in some secret language/code) then postulate, twist and reconstruct the fragments of the scriptures so that we, the lay people can understand it and use it is the real deception. There may be some relevance we can afford to translation.
Bible Code is like Nostradamus. You can't make any damn sense out of any of it until after it happens, and even then you have to have a very good imagination to get it to superimpose.. give or take a century or two on the time line.
It's a fun and interesting exercise in futility, mostly.
Prophets have their place as leaders only if they can practice what they preach. Not so much as to get the word of God for YOU. It isn't prophetic to prophecy the obvious.
It's a lot like reading all this news propaganda now. Maybe we need to shred it all and run it through some computer code program to be reconstructed in order to see what the truth is. What is what was and what is to come.
Unfortunately there is nothing archaic about mind control, it is perpetually up-to-the-minute.
I get the feeling that our friends here are young Rabbinical student's or Jews for Jesus, who gave up on the bazaar mysticism of their elders, sect or denomination. The other possibility is that they are trying to initiate themselves or had no religious instruction at all (secular Jews or victims of Protestant fundamentalism). They might want to see the movie Pi to see what happens when one becomes compulsive and/or addicted to the occult pursuit of the perfect number that is God.
Or they just may be agents of Israel trying to interrupt the flow of anti Zionist comment on the blog.
Yeah, maybe there is a better word than archaic. Prehistoric?
Ubiquitous from the beginning!
You are you friggin idiots. Your brains are smaller than your assholes.
...but nevertheless infinitely larger than Airhead's ... and the IOF's balls.
"Benjamin Franklin" Was he just another anti-Semite or a bit Clairvoyant:
This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin
I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews.
In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves.
Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.
Rogers Hornsby:
You and your buddies should take the time to actually read the truth about how the Jews sold out the German people, and then back stabbed the very ones who had given them a home when no one else was willing to do so. As well as, how they were directly responsible for bringing America into both WWI & WWII just to satisfy their own selfish and false dreams. And now Americans are fighting are dying again for that same group that would gladly sell them out, as they the people of Germany and so many others.
Just read the following speech that has been authenticated beyond any doubt.
A Jewish Defector Warns America:
Benjamin Freedman Speaks on Zionism
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I agree. They should be tried at world court for eveyone to see and learn
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