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RB I promised you this reference some time ago.
“Nazionalsozialismus was to combine the two great aspirations fo the nineteenth century, nationalism and socialism, hitherto implacably hostile to each other. It was the height of irony that the word had been coined by the founders of socialist Zionism, Moses He¨ and Theodor Herzl.”
p. 606 in R.E. Keller, __The German Language__, Humanities Press Inc. New Jersey, 1978,
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Here's something for 9/11 conspiracy buffs:
http://intelwire.egoplex.com/
200...logarchive.html
It's an anti-'jihadist' website, designed to stovepipe CIA's perverse perspective on events, but anyhow:
"Judge Michael Mukasey And A Curious Omission In The Omar Abdel-Rahman Trial"
Concerns Ali Mohamed, an Al-Qaeda 'infiltrator' taking orders from Osama and Ayman al-Zawahiri. Trained at Fort Bragg, the prime suspect in the 1993 WTC incident and Nairobi bombings. While the judge refused to subpoena him as a "suspected agent of the United States Government" (defense argument) and the defense was unable to get a hold of him, the FBI apparently had no trouble locating him.
"Emphasis added by me. Here's where the story gets interesting. Despite Stavis' inability to locate Mohamed, the prosecutor -- Andrew McCarthy -- had no such problem.
The following stipulation was entered during on March 21, 2001, during US v. Usama bin Laden, the trial for the East African Embassy bombings, a plot which Mohamed played a major role. (He pleaded guilty in exchange for sentencing considerations, but he has subsequently disappeared from the prison system. He had not been sentenced as of last month.) "
Judge Michael Mukasey is the nominee for United States Attorney General. His son works in Rudy Guiliani's law firm. He defends those accused of Financial Crimes. Prosecution files for Financial Crime cases in New York were stored in the WTC complex, and went up in smoke on 9/11.
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http://intelwire.egoplex.com/
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Apparently 'Al-Qaeda' websites announce an upcoming release of a OBL video, then uploads it to US based fileservers, 'which then gives the US time to review and respond to it'. A search of many of these 'websites' show them to ALSO be based on US servers.
WTF?
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Want to see some pics of the moral degenerates of Hebron ? Check here:
http://tinyurl.com/yvt3p5
To my eyes these are the opposite of 'mens sana in corpore sano', namely, sick minds in sick bodies.
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Should read Moses Hess
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David Duke has an article on Mukasey:
Jewish Extremist Nominated U.S. Attorney General
As Israeli Role in 9/11 Becomes Clear
http://www.davidduke.com/general...2777.htmlprint/
Mukasey oversaw the WTC 1993 trial, the extradition of the mossad agents after 9/11, and the judgment on Silverstein's claims on WTC insurance. His attitude to the Geneva Conventions is that they are 'quaint'. What a guy! He knows where the bodies are buried, and intends to keep them buried.
Chertoff in charge of Homeland Security, and Mukasey in charge of Justice. Vale USA.
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US taxpaer - I remember questioning this statement, that Hess and Herzl created the TERM 'national socialism'. It seems important because the term has become a sort of demonic mantra, but my point was that the CONCEPT was quite widespread and unremarkable, since what it boils down to is that if 'the nation' was 'free', then its 'people' would 'love one another'.
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To Mukasey's post-9/11 achievements add the Padilla Trial, as smekhova records:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...9466511/
#285724
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righteo | 09.20.07 - 11:34 am - what do you bet that W&M get their phones tapped and e-mails reviewed? That is if it isn't being done already.
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I don't see much evidence of Ali Mohammed doing anything much during Nairobi bombings - nor in the WTC bombings - I find a Mossad agent Hadas as being the principle behind the bombings of WTC 1. Israelis have fingerprints on the Nairobi bombings as well.
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Ali Mohammed looks more like a smokescreen -informant to set up a buncha vulnerable guys - for the real deal was probably carried out by Israeli military men.
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They drive the Palestinians off their land to make room for Jews.
The matter is frequently put in those terms, but the formulation is deliberately misleading: there's plenty of room for everyone, but the Zionists object on ideological grounds to the Palestinians' being there. It's not that they're in the way, it's that they exist at all.
Of course, the Zionists have always asserted that the Palestinians don't exist. They must reason that once they've liquidated the whole lot of them, that assertion will have been retroactively validated.
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Kei & Uri (or anyone else who knows) what on earth does my sabbatian guru mean by the claim that during the 1967 war, the jewish israeli soldiers went into battle wearing their head tefillin?
I can imagine a small number of religious zionists doing so, but this man makes it sound as if the whole lot did it, which I think is completely absurd - most of the army in 1967 were still aggressively secular, is my impression.
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RB writes: the CONCEPT was quite widespread and unremarkable, since what it boils down to is that if 'the nation' was 'free', then its 'people' would 'love one another'.
Keller has another opinion: "nationalism and socialism [were] hitherto implacably hostile to each other." The "love" among members of a "people" does not necessarily lead to socialism. It may in fact serve to cover up relations of exploitation.
What period in the 19th century are you referring to?
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Has anyone ever driven through the wildlife park at Longleat, and had the monkeys attack their car, deftly removing windshield wiper blades, and pulling faces and masturbating in the face of the driver? Well, it is a not-to-be forgotten experience. Who knew that former Soviets would be reduced to such a pastime in their rebirth in Israel? It might be a good idea for the people who run that particular wildlife park to have on hand (as at Longleat) boxes of replacement wiper blades.
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'Me' - M&W must know they are treading on eggshells, and have already suffered academic harassment with more in store. However their jobs are probably secure, unlike Finkelstein, though who knows what behind the scenes financial pressure will be put on Chicago & Harvard Universities. As for snooping on their lives one may presume that has already happened and nothing has turned up. With the new US travel laws where the 'no-fly' lists are being replaced with 'OK to fly' lists their movements might suddenly stop, c/o Commissar Chertoff. Perhaps their greatest risk is violence to their property & persons, c/o JDL.
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If by amazing grace Ron Paul wins 2008, one might imagine M&W would join his cabinet. Yes, one may daydream.
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Spengler was a Right Nationalist but not an orthodox National Socialist.
He used the terms "ethical socialism"
and Prussian socialism as positives,
even though closer to Hugenberg than Hitler.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
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Man from Lapu
the Saudi strata wasting all those $ of inept vulnerables so pitiably
inferior to the brilliant Mossad.
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Ken, you haven't really read the transcript to the trial of the Nairobi bombings - nor have you read the charges by the two alleged bombers of being tortured into confession and having explosives planted on them by Mossad and Kenyan Police. These two guys didn't even know how to speak proper english to know what was going on in the trial -their names were Odeh and Ohwali or something like that. The other two had nothing to do with any bombs - but just being an associate of Bin Laden from 10 years back.
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Mr or Ms Taxpayer - by 'love each other' I mean something just as vague as what is meant by the word 'socialism' - it wouldn't surprise me if from time to time Bismarck described one or another of his ideas as 'socialist', but I shall not go looking for instances.
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"Jews harass and bully and then threaten to lodge complaints against their victims"
This seems to be a practice of very wide application.
--Mr. US taxpayer
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indeed, and the interesting question is, why do individual jews, who presumably experience just as many disappointments at one anothers' hands as any other people, believe one another when the accusation concerns an outsider?
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Ok Lapu the Moslem world is supine before the Zionists. No opposition, certainly none with any real dynamism.
It is all a Mossad-created illusion.
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By the way - there won't be a thread that this is exactly on topic for - has anyone any ideas about the significance of the fact that psychometric testing is pervasive in israeli education?
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Rowan, is it because they are not as individual as may be desirable?
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Yes, believing implies some role for the concept of truth, even if one is very bad at recognising it. What they are is a criminal conspiracy.
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can I have a choccy one please?
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Speaking of Cunty Rice, anyone remembers Dave Chapelle's old KKK episode where he calls Condoleeza Rice, "Cunnilingus Rice"?!?!?
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actually...its here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r...h?
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/
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Empire's puppet under duress.
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you're wrong Salman - actually Dave Chapelle's full version of the KKK episode is right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a...h?
v=ajrC1gh70pg
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hi how are I hope you are fine I also know odfried hepp i met him in damasucs in 1996 also later I saw him in Germany sine long time I didnt any information abut him please infom me if you know any information is he in jail or out doyou know his email..
many greeting
salam
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I really do recommend this set of a couple of dozen archival photos of WWII:
http://www.libertyforum.org/show...sb=5&o=21&
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Young men caught up in old guys' games.
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Back to the Middle East battleground being fought in the USofA.
What happened when the campus rabbi tried to send students to disrupt a forum on academic freedom at Brown
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...abbi-
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Photos, text in Russian, if they are from art students, it shows the high quality of Russian academy of art.
http://www.rusring.net/~levin/le...n3d/
haunebu.htm
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these pictures are of Haunebu III and other flying disks, 1944/45
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Were these rocket power Fritz? My son thought they were.
I've recently seen blue prints (not original) of the type 7 u boat designed by Blohm & Voss. Works of Art, literally.
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What a preposterous photo - if they turned it around, then at least the swastika would be correct.
A good place to go for these wonder weapons is here:
http://www.kheichhorn.de/html/
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I love the section "Beweise", which consists in a series of assertions without any evidence whatsoever.
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For us mono-linguals, anything in English? I don't see a "translate this page" button.
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Me, in this area evidence is rarely found; I think kheichorn.de has a collection of pictures and blueprints, though not in english perhaps? There is some term for it like esoteric technology or so. The known flying disks were thought with jet engines or rockets, and have been tried to be reconstructed, like Avro-car or something, that never worked. The more esoteric version is mysterious vril energy. Towards the end of the war, U-boots were technically advanced, but myself I have not read enough about all the things that have happened then, but at least to say, that most is unknown yet.
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http://www.discogs.com/viewimage...t=R&
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I have studied UFOs for 50 years and neve seen these photos before. The
haunebu ones show a type of craft very prevalent in photos taken around the world from the 50s to the 70s.
Does anyone hav a translatio from either the Russian or the German text?
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I just googled "Haunebu", it turns out that, unbeknownst to me, there is a whole lot of stuff on the internet in English.
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You can safely ignore Ken Hoop, Lapu, or, since he's a plant, water him regularly.
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thanks, Man - will do
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MFA of course reacts from the perspective of a Manichenan kook.
http://afp.google.com/article/
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for good measure.
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th search at yahoo gave many results in English for ´haunebu´ also, too many. Some of them are informative.
on Ufo-books: W.S.Burroughs once recommended Whitley Strieber, though I dont know, found Jaques Vallée most serious. He once gave up Ufo research, because of too much disinfo from all sides and intelligence. But he wrote his 3 books then nevertheless, saying enough was left as genuine observations of the phenomenon. Myself I have´nt seen one.
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Fritz, my son has been enjoying reading about U-Boats lately. Three titles he really liked were:
Hirschfeld The Secret Diary of a U-Boat by Wolfgang Hirschfeld
U-Boat Commander A Periscope View of the Battle of the Atlantic by Peter Cremer
Iron Coffins A Personal Account of the German U-Boat Battles of WWII By Commander Herbert A. Werner
You might enjoy them as well.
I hadn't hear of vril energy before so I googled it and found this site, it's about music. Rowan might be interested also.
http://www.naziufocommander.com/...m/
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The 'gotzen gegen thule' trilogy of stories should be translated, they would do nicely in the english speaking world.
http://www.antikbuch24.de/
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thanks Me, a good opinion of the Nazi Ufo commander.
Looking for Haunebu came across a strange site, that looks like extreme Right, also about WW II and Flying Disks, but there are some of the weirdest lies ever seen, and pictures they have stolen everywhere. At first glance. But better not to waste time with it, I think now. The following
is from it:
http://www.greyfalcon.us/
Al-Qa'ida is the product of an Arab fascist group that was set up in the 1920s, funded by Adolf Hitler, used by British, French and American Intelligence after WWII,
and later was supported by the Saudis and reactivated by the CIA
From a speech by John Loftus (former US Justice Department prosecutor) to mark Holocaust Remembrance Day, (Yom Ha'Shoah), April 18, 2004
First published in Jewish Community News, August 2004
and:....Hitler's holocaust plan for Jews in Palestine stopped by
Desert Rats
Adolf Hitler made plans to conduct a holocaust of Jews living in Palestine during the Second World War, according to German historians who have examined government archives for a new book that examines the extension of the extermination programme outside of Europe and Russia.
It was the victory of the famed Desert Rats of Britain's Eighth Army at El Alamein under the leadership of Field Marshal Bernard Montgomery that saved the Jews in Palestine from annihilation... If Arabs had joined Nazis in genocide, the map of the Middle East could be totally different to present day and the historians speculate whether the state of Israel would ever have been founded if such an unholy alliance had been achieved..
When Hitler Became Abu Ali
The Miami Herald June 7, 2002
Pro-German parties and youth movements attuned to the trappings of National-Socialism sprouted in Syria, Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt. Even Nazi slogans were translated into Arabic. A Mideast song popular toward the end of the 1930s crooned:
No more Monsieur, no more Mister. In Heaven Allah, on earth Hitler.
The Führer himself was even Islamicized under the new name of Abu Ali
Love of Nazism spread like wildfire in the region...
Since Hitler's ascent to power in 1933, the Arabs have been adulating Nazism. It seems that some things never change--or perhaps some things do. Now they accuse the Jews of being Nazis. In this way, Hitler's loyal fans are currently equating the primary victims of his genocide with the Nazi executioners themselves.
Julian Schvindlerman is a political analyst and journalist in Washington, D.C.
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further lies:
http://greyfalcon.us/The%
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Though he was the grand mufti of Jerusalem, al-Husseini moved his base of operations (and pro-Nazi propaganda) to Lebanon in 1938, to Iraq in 1939 (where he helped establish the strongly pro-German Rashid Ali al-Gaylani as prime minister), and then to Berlin in 1941.
Al-Husseini devised an alternative to Hitler's plan to rid Germany of Jews by sending them to Jewish Palestine when at a meeting in Berlin with Hitler himself on Nov. 21, 1941, he persuaded the Führer that such a plan would result in a powerful independent Jewish state, and that a far better solution would be a Final one: Kill all Jews, in the millions, at extermination centers set up in Europe.
Two months after this meeting, the Holocaust had begun. Al-Husseini was granted his wish. It was a Moslem Arab who originated the idea of the Holocaust.
Adolf Eichmann’s deputy, Dieter Wisliceny, testified at the Nuremberg Trials that Hajj Amin al-Husseini “was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz. “
At Auschwitz, al-Husseini reportedly “admonished the guards running the gas chambers to work more diligently.”
Nevertheless, al-Husseini was never tried at Nuremberg after the defeat of the Axis powers, and was allowed to return to the Middle East. He spent the rest of his life organizing terror attacks - now with the help of the Soviets via a KGB agent named Yevgeni Primakov - against the Jews of Israel.
In 1964, he founded the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) and turned its leadership over to his nephew, Mohammed Abder Rauf Arafat al-Kudwa al-Husseini, alias Yasser Arafat. Up until the time of his death, Arafat continued to pay homage to the Mufti as his hero and mentor.
Hajj Amin al-Husseini has inspired two generations of radical Islamic leaders to carry on Hitler’s war against the Jews...
In 1943, Adolf Hitler schemed to assassinate Theodore Roosevelt, Josef Stalin and Winston Churchill while the three world leaders met in Tehran.....
The German leader had all reasons to pin hopes on Iran. Despite its neutrality officially declared on September 4, 1939, the head of this key Middle East state Reza-shah Pehlevi in fact sought military and political cooperation with Germany.
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this statement is really stupid:
At Auschwitz, al-Husseini reportedly “admonished the guards running the gas chambers to work more diligently.”
-- I sometimes feel that trying to explain to jewish readers that this sort of propaganda is palpably false, is like trying to explain what an out-of-tune note sounds like, to someone deaf.
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And yet it sometimes works! Not subtle indeed, but subtle enough for the sheeple ...
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Nationalism and socialism were not implacably opposed to each other in the beginning. They became so in the post-1870 era.
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People believe what they want to believe. It's self defense in a way and keeps the riddler on the roof for all of us. I'm not sure that it's so bad either because it is a way of making sense out of our experiences although it's also a way of avoiding responsibility, making it the other guy's fault.
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This Grey Falcon site is fed from the major lie factory of the mainstream media, and although claiming to give insight into occult roots of NS and flying disc technologies, with stolen photos and pictures. It is superficial and does´nt go into honest historical investigation - instead loudly claims the theory of the nazi undermined US government, Bush as Hitler´s heir, and all the usual lies. Even america deceived is propagated on: "..war on terror", a book that probably does´nt show the real structures.
For better information one should read original sources about mythology and history.
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sorry some mistake with the bold letters editing, but compared with the preposterous pomp and expense of the ""grey falcon- site"", this is a minor fault.
also, it should read: even the book: "America deceived" is quoted there!
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At Auschwitz, al-Husseini reportedly “admonished the guards running the gas chambers to work more diligently.”
Islamofascist's exact wording was:
"Come on, gasmen, work harder to rid our glorious Vaterland of Jews, whose innate goodness and intelligence threatens to upend our racist theories".
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The world owes a great debt to the Nazis. Who would we have for our bench mark of evil if it wasn't for them? The Kaiser I suppose...it would have to be a German...they photograph well.
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Me, the world owes a debt of gratitude to Nazis for the benchmark of evil in the exact same proportion it owes a debt of gratitude to Jews for the benchmark of goodness.
Bear with me while I look up the meaning of 'evil' and 'goodness' in my Webster ...
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smekhovo | 09.22.07 - 5:06 am
Not exactly. Study this.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v17/v17n2...-
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I have read Spengler, Hoop, but what on earth do you mean?
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Just that conservative Spengler
okayed same well after 1870.
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