This is the stupid cunt who put the requirement to recognise israel as a jewish state into the annapolis formula, and he now RUNS obama:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...ges/
964124.html
Reading this article is like reading a tray of dropped typeset, but one can get its drift:
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How to be Pro-Israeli Journalist: Never Write "Murder" or "Palestine"
Yonatan Mendel
London Review of Books via:
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...list-
never.html
wow!
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 6:34 am |
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...ges/
964124.html
"Levine: "First of all, he references his consistent track record as one of Israel's very strong supporters, both in the Senate and before; he reminds people that nonpartisan groups like AIPAC have said that his record is perfect"
You're being far too negative, Xymph. If there's one thing Israel deserves gratitude for it's the sheer volume of hard work it has put into making political assassinations so respectable in the civilized West that we no longer hear a murmur of criticism from our leaders.
This can ONLY be GOOD.
It's going to save a lot of time, everywhere.
I say "Bring it on!"
check this out, I can't embed it on wordpress:
http://www.livevideo.com/video/g...27162/
ciao.aspx
this is genghis6199. My only disagreement with him is that he seems to think that coffinman has disproved the thermite/thermate theory and proved the cores were taken down with 'mini-nukes'.
in fact, it is a little masterpiece of pseudo-spontaneity, that video.
i think what genghis is really saying is that he wants Morgan Reynolds to discredit Steven Jones by saying it was mini-nukes not thermite.
mininukes seem to be a viable way of taking down robust buildings and they cannot be crossed off the 'possible list'.
the 'conventional methods' of thermate-thermite etc. are the other main school of thought.
'space beams' really seem far-fetched except possibly thrown into the mix for the fun of it; rumsfeld sat on a pre-9/11 committee for space-based warfare and might have wanted a tactical notch for funding purposes, but not much else.
that covers the three main theories, although minor ones are available, such as a freaking big nuke underneath the WTC.
nukes, whether mini, maxi, or medium, cannot supply this sort of phased precision - not to mention the fact that the top halfs of the cores were blown off BEFORE the lower halfs were pulled down.
http://gordonssite.com/id2.html
ha!ha!ha! thanks to the indispensible Laura Rozen, I have just spotted the most preposterously stupid story for a while:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/
...ukeboasts.shtml
you have to scroll sideways and down - the NOTW site seems to be rather badly laid out.
8. Israel announces a new subdivision expansion in the West Bank. (or maybe that is 1.)
http://americanfootprints.com/dr...rupal/node/
3944
Getting Off the SOFA
China Hand Mar 14 2008 - 4:41am Afghanistan Iraq Pakistan United States Armed Forces
America Explores a New Formula for Its Overseas Military Presence
The United States does not appear to have done itself any particular favors by conveying a list of eleven “demands” concerning the status and treatment of U.S. personnel inside Pakistan to the Musharraf government.
The demands have aroused widespread comment and opposition inside Pakistan, and are probably doomed to rejection.
But they do provide an insight into the Department of Defense’s desire for a politically and legally secure, quasi-permanent presence in South Asia.
The eleven demands have not been publicized in the United States, but I’m assuming they are genuine, and were leaked by the Musharraf administration in order to shift a little political heat from Musharraf’s well-roasted hide to the ever-unpopular U.S. of A.
Att. MFA.
http://mikesamerica.blogspot.com...mn-
america.html
Yeah, but the big story is still Obama's preacher joining Ron Paul in blowback "theory." Clinton getting desperate?
One error in the Rev's sermon, however. I said soon after Hillary broke onto the national scene on Bill's moist shirttails, she wasn't white enough.
well, Ken, that Pakistan story is most interesting - I wish I could say the same for the fourth form debating society that is the US democracy.
Dark the dawn when day is nigh...
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/
...icle_2681.shtml
Palestinians hit an Israel Air Force helicopter flying over the Gaza Strip with machine gun fire Friday but the aircraft returned safely to Israel with no casualties, Israeli security officials said. Hamas said its men fired at the chopper as it raided a rocket-launching site in the northern Gaza Strip and reported hitting the aircraft. The Israel Defense Forces would not comment officially, but security officials said the aircraft suffered light damage and landed safely in Israel with its crew unharmed.
Thanks, Ken. Here's a site for all things Pakistan Defence http://www.defence.pk/
and the list of American demands here:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/str...us-
demands.html
The Americans already had most of those rights, but, Clueless as ever, they had to put it in writing. This will allow the new civilian government to turn it down.
Unlike the Japanese who had to turn over a U.S. sailor who raped a girl in Okinawa to the Navy, Pakistanis might just take it in their hands to chop off the balls of any such transgressors.
Another point I haven't stressed before: The absolute veneration most Pakistanis have for their armed forces, which is why, except for the literati, most Pakistanis preferred military to civilian rule. Americans are lucky to have the Pakistani Army to hide behind, otherwise, act like an occupying force out of Iraq, and no Yank would be safe in the bazaars of Pakistan.
They're lucky no one has been killed..yet.
When soldiering is the most respectable occupation you know the government is corrupt. The Romans, The old Soviet Union, Korea, Pakistan? Iraq, Iran? Israel, and even the USofA is going there fast. All we need is another good war and we'd be right there "supporting the troops"
...and the oldest profession is always right there too, bringing up the rear.
NWO daily propaganda pill:
blame Bear Stearns fiasco on lack of consumer confidence.
In other words, whose fault is it that another giant ripoff is seeing the light of day?
Yours.
Yes, all of you bloggers, antisemites, Holocaust Deniers and revisionists, shame on you for turning poor, honest investment bankers into lampshades.
But, fear not, they got Chutzpah
http://www.savetibet.org/news/ne...tem.php?
id=1213
The International Campaign for Tibet strongly condemns the suppression by Chinese security forces of peaceful demonstrations by Tibetan monks, and the shutdown of monasteries around Lhasa. These actions have provoked disturbances among Tibetan lay people that are escalating to a dangerous level in the streets of Lhasa and spreading to different parts of Tibet.
The unrest in Tibet is a result of established policies that have suppressed religious freedom, denigrated the Dalai Lama and his authority, withheld key provisions of autonomy promised in Chinese law, fostered the large-scale in-migration of Chinese settlers and led to the marginalization of Tibetans.
His Holiness the Dalai Lama has appealed to the Chinese leadership to address the "long-simmering resentment" of the Tibetan people and has called on the Tibetans not to resort to violence.
http://www.savetibet.org/
Aye the guys a nutter....the worlds going mad. I've just been served my tea by a waitress and when she arrived to collect the plates, I swear her minge smelled of fish
caroline glick has taken to referring to gaza un-re-invaded as a 'waziristan-style surrender to jihad'.
nice story from greg palast about why spitzer had to go:
http://www.gregpalast.com/elliot...zer-gets-
nailed
I may be being defeatist, but it seems to me that the entire PPP infrastructure is going to be smashed as soon as the army sorts itself out again re Musharraf. One thing that doesn't work, anywhere, is western petit-bourgeois liberal parties trying to get between army chiefs and guerrillas.
Wayne Madsen reports (subscription required) that “Defense sources have confirmed our March 11, 2008, report that Emperors Club VIP, the prostitution firm that entangled New York’s outgoing Governor Eliot Spitzer in a call girl ring, is viewed by US intelligence as a front for Israel’s intelligence agency, the Mossad. “The sources claim that Spitzer was ‘outed’ for his aggressiveness in attacking money launderers connected to Russian-Israeli organized crime syndicates and other Wall Street malfeasance.”
That was my instantaneous reaction as soon as I heard that Spitzer is in ho trouble.
It is like wondering whose predator fired the missile into a Gaza market.
but there is also a whole lot of very lawyerly discussion going on that inhabits a different, homogenised, bourgeois universe:
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2008/
...rveillance.html
oh, Balkin and those guys, the designated kind, considerate jews ... they are perfectly capable of twisting things sufficiently to sue Caterpillar, Volvo, Predator Inc (whatever their stock symbol) on behalf of Palestinians and not just ignore Zionists but buy IDF bonds with earnings.
thats twisted
I suppose you mean 'Israel Bonds' though, which are far from lucrative.
Here's a Spitzer spite thought:
It was Spitzer who exposed the embezzlement and other
financial shenanigans at the World Jewish Congress back in 2004 or
2005. Edgar Bronfman and Rabbi Israel Singer didn't take too kindly
to the scrutiny . . . Make of that what you will.
http://www.libertyforum.org/
show...0#Post296125632
certain deals are lucrative to certain people only, like Bear Stearns, Halliburton, Carlyle Group or Israel bonds.
After all, is Israel an economically sound proposition?
But what do jews care about economics, their interest is financial.
I see your point.
Talking about clockwork, here's a report from ABC Oz Lateline which could probably qualify for #8 on Xymph's list. The subject is
Long range Hamas rockets put more Israelis in the firing line
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/c...07/
s2187233.htm
It finishes thus...
MATT BROWN: The longer range missiles in Gaza have not only brought a new Israeli city into range, they may have changed the way the war is waged.
The militants are usually forced to get as close as they can to their targets. That means firing rockets from the towns and fields near the border. The new, longer ranged missiles mean they could fall back if fire repeatedly (from) the centre of Gaza city.
It's not clear how the Israeli military would respond or what the human costs would be.
EHUD BARAK, ISRAELI DEFENCE MINISTER: Whoever thinks that we have finished the story in Gaza and that is already calm, I want to correct them. We haven't finished anything. The important tests are still before us.
MATT BROWN: In Ashkelon, they're waiting to see what comes next. But in this region, the optimists are rarely rewarded.
...suggesting that Israel is planning to give Gaza City some Beirut therapy. Presumably including cluster bombs to take care of Gaza's pesky Pal children.
This seems to be one occasion when DEBKAfile can be regarded as reliable:
http://www.debka.com/headline.ph...ne.php?
hid=5117
Barak briefing deniably against the yanks seems entirely probable to me.
Two handy references for correctspeak re the palestinians & izzy:
English/Zionist Dictionary
wufys via:
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/159268
State-Worshiping AP News Agency Reports
wufys via:
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...cy-
reports.html
The debka article is delicious. It suggests that the Yanks decided to teach Barak a lesson. It's obvious that he decided, in a fit of self-indulgent pomp, that nothing of interest could come up at the meeting if he stayed away and sent a minion. However...
"Barak is reported by DEBKAfile’s military sources to have angrily rejected the US general’s charges and remarked such complaints should have been properly addressed to him, not laid before officials not directly involved in the Israel-Palestinian dialogue, some of whom are openly hostile to Israel. The minister said there was no point in him attending any more “Palestinian charades.”"
... more or less demonstrating yet again that Barak is a pompous dimwit, well past his expiry date.
he's trying to impose a remote veto on what is discussed, and by absenting himself make the veto impossible to challenge.
barak actually looks different these days. he has jowls.
also, he knows that money talks, and he is organising an enormous air defense deal:
http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2008...arms-contracts/
I don't think the remote veto ploy can work in this case, RB. I don't dismiss its potential usefulness as a propaganda tool, however in order for it to play to Barak's advantage, he had to ambush the Yanks. He made a huge blunder by treating the meeting with contempt. The Debka story tells us that he had a Homer-esque 'Do-ohh' moment when he realized he'd been the one outflanked and ambushed.
He threw a tantrum because information which he thinks is of sufficient import to be treated with 'for Barak's ears only' confidentiality was sprayed around at a meeting he couldn't be bothered attending. It can't be important enough to angrily complain about the circumstances of its release AND fodder for the remote veto ploy as well. He now looks like a dill no matter how he plays it.
In a way, it's a switcheroony on the old "we don't talk to terrorists" ploy. In this case the yanks were more than happy to talk to the terrorist but the terrorist declined the invitation. So they talked to anyone and everyone who'd listen and let Barak parry the fall-out from making a fool of himself, by himself. It suggests to me that elements in or on the fringe of the Bush junta want him replaced.
I feel quite sure that both the US military teams and the CIA teams are infuriated by israeli autocracy in general, but they too can be replaced - we have seen the CIA visibly reduced in power globally by the pentagon's P2OG teams, though, so I should think both military and CIA at all levels are equally terrified of attracting any sort of political criticism that could result in yet more purges and reorganisations.
The Israelis were extraordinarily and deliberately rude to Condi recently. This could well have been an unsubtle warning to Israel that there's a price to pay for treating an American rep badly. Handled carelessly, Barak's ignorant stupidity would have made it two in a row...
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.16.08 - 9:58 am
Who's Connie?
barak actually looks different these days. he has jowls.
they are not jowls, they are hemorrhoids.
the same thing happened to mccain.
connie rice - damned if i will call her condi, condoleezza, etc.
According to wikipedia, anal sex without sufficent lubricant is in fact one of the most common causes of hemorrhoids amongst otherwise healthy young adults.
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.16.08 - 12:31 pm | #
perhaps better to keeep Frankfurt School to your home-sty, ffff, home-page.
EU helps China to cripple Dalai Lama's charity
By Christopher Booker
Chinese troops in Lhasa are violently suppressing demonstrations that commemorate the rising 49 years ago which forced the Dalai Lama into exile.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opini...3/16/
do1602.xml
Meanwhile, on the country's northern edge, six months of snow and record low temperatures have created a catastrophe in the Chinese province of Chingai. According to China's official news agency, 500,000 animals have died and three million people face starvation. When a similar if much smaller crisis 10 years ago hit Ladakh, in northern Kashmir, thousands of lives were saved by the expert intervention of a British charity, ApTibet, working with the Dalai Lama's Tibetan Relief Committee.
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No charity would be better placed to save lives in Chingai than ApTibet, of which the Dalai Lama is the patron. It has carried out more than 150 aid projects in India and Tibet, funded by many well-known trusts and individual donors, more than 50 of them co-financed by the European Commission (EC).
The EC has become so ruthless in its desire to appease its "strategic partner" that it is now threatening to recoup a further £1.5 million from the charity it has already bankrupted, for other completed aid projects with which it had previously expressed satisfaction. It is also demanding legal costs of £75,000 for a court case brought by ApTibet's trustees in fighting for the charity's survival.
This chilling story began in 1984 when Max Comfort, a British architect visiting Tibetan exiles in India, saw a striking example of technical aid - an expensive but useless pump - wholly unfit for people's needs. Starting in the kitchen of his Cricklewood home with just £300, he and a group of friends set up ApTibet to supply simple, suitable aid for Tibetans in exile (the "ap" stands for appropriate).....
Doubtless in Beijing, the EU's "strategic partners" are happy. Meanwhile, its troops are again shooting at Tibetans in the streets of Lhasa, while to the north, three million people are starving, without any hope of assistance from the outside world. If Mr Blair hopes to become President of Europe, we should be aware what sort of government he aspires to preside over.
this part is left ou above unfortunately:
But this is no longer possible. Two years ago, after China and Europe became "strategic partners" under an agreement signed by Tony Blair, the EU's acting president, in December 2005, the Commission suspended ApTibet's operations because of its link to the Dalai Lama. Since then, it has done all it can to close the charity down, such as demanding repayment of €451,000 (£340,000) it had given ApTibet for a project in Chingai which it had approved, inspected and signed off as satisfactory.
connie rice - damned if i will call her condi, condoleezza, etc.
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.16.08 - 12:29 pm
Whatever...
But, for me, connie revives images of the delightful Connie Booth (nee Mrs J. Cleese). Associating her name with the repulsive Condi is uncomfortably close to a crime against humanity...
but this name of hers is cultural code, it implies some sort of bullshit black creativity manifested by extemporised new spellings. It is a 'signifier'.
this name of hers is cultural code, it implies some sort of bullshit black creativity manifested by extemporised new spellings.
It's almost flattering to her to use such a long-winded term to describe a drone. Anyway, my point is that I've never seen her described as connie before and imo it's an inappropriately personable name.
Sleezza might be more accurate, and easily associated. Just a suggestion, btw.
I don't see the point in following all the painstaking details on the sure path of mankind to hell.
I changed the captions referring to her on my own blog back to 'condi'.
If you want to know why we KNOW you guys are all just petty Jew-haters, read below. The only reason you focus on Palestinians and not true victims like the Tibetans, is because you hate Jews, period. That's all you people are about. All you will ever be about. Good luck with that.
For those of you who don't know, Tibet was an independent country for centuries, until the Communist Chinese regime invaded and occupied them in 1950. The Dalai Lama was forced to flee the country, along with thousands of other Tibetans, many of whom settled in neighboring India and Nepal. The ones who stayed were subjected to harsh rule which was concentrated on dispersing the Tibetans, destroying their national and religious culture and subjecting them to what amounted to ethnic cleansing. Tibetans were forcibly removed from their homeland and settled in neighboring provinces while ethnic Chinese were brought in to settle in Tibet.
Due to the nature of Mao Tse-Tung's regime, the Tibetan's Buddhist religion was singled out for special repression. Something like 6,000 monasteries, nunneries and temples, and their contents were partially or fully destroyed from the period of the Chinese invasion and during the Cultural Revolution, and literally thousands of Buddhist monks were killed or driven out of the country. Human rights groups have confirmed the identities of over 700 Tibetan political prisoners in Tibet, although there are likely to be hundreds more whose names simply aren't known or confirmed. It's quite common for such people to be detained without charge or trial for up to four years through Chinese regulations calling for "re-education through labor."
It's interesting to compare the attention paid to the Tibetans, a truly oppressed and occupied people with the attention paid to the Palestinians, who are neither.
"Connie" is rather a sexy name. Condoleeza sounds like a poisonous African reptile and an ugly one at that.
Anonymous' attitude is what causes "Jew-hate," typically ignoring and or dissembling about comparative actual living conditions
of the oppressed. America is not directly subsidizing what the Chinese are doing either, nor did the Chinese drag us into a no-win
quagmire in Iraq.
Or a real estate agent.
anonymous is romanticising tibetan religion for reasons he cannot even be bothered to think about.
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.17.08 - 10:57 am
Thanks for indulging me. If it's any comfort, I share your dissatisfaction with the common substitute names for Dr Rice.
anonymous | 03.17.08 - 3:13 pm
Can't speak for anyone else, anon, but for me the thing which separates Israel from all other territorial conflicts is the cowardice and the incessant deluge of disinfo, lies and hypocrisy which are the foundation of the Israel illusion.
Someone on the www once likened it to polishing a turd.
jews operate like a binary switch: boastful intimidation or whinging, currently in former mode, how long before the cycle flips, 6 months, 1 year and Spielberg unrolls his latest take on Anne Frank?
btw, tibetans at least have the lousy choice of becoming chinese and being treated equally.
situation in Tibet is reported in the press, but not at rense, the Dalai Lama has called it a cultural genocide the Chinese are committing on the Tibetan people. If the Chinese government are communists or capitalists or both, they are corrupt and brutal.
Dalai Lama fears reprisals from Chinese ultimatum to Tibetans to surrender; Eyewitness accounts from Lhasa
International Campaign for Tibet
March 17th, 2008
http://www.savetibet.org/news/ne...tem.php?
id=1222
alarming reports, they also use Moslem troops against Tibetans. In this case even if pres. Bush says it, it doesn't matter who, this has to stop.
Tibetans now seem cheated from all, since the US have no more moral credit, Russia is supporting (perhaps) China, that is corrupt and in best business with the rest of the evil.
look, the only reason this is happened now is that the CIA have a sort of 'stay-behind' network in tibet that they haven't activated for decades, the mossad have installed an extremely expensive communications suits and several pasychologists in daramsala to study tantra and run agents, and the white house has demanded as much smoke and mirrors as possible to distract the US masses from reality.
I speculate, and doubtless the trolls will tell me that these mossad tantrists are entirely imaginary.
people probably only see them when in high trances, but that doesn't mean they aren't there.
only joking 
China will not tolerate separatism, and the Tibetan protesters will get precisely nowhere - the enthusiasm of the latte-sippers will help not at all.
quite so. however, the situation in pakistan is getting more and more scary. this person makes a good and heartfelt point about the US sending "trainers":
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/20...80%99t%e2%80%
a6
The Chinese Communist party is not the Salvation Army, it is responsible for tens of million dead by mismanagement, murder and destruction of culture- and no evidence for CIA on the Tibetan side, it can be purely communist propaganda.
Fritz, there are dozens of books about CIA in tibet. get a life.
there are books about the cia everywhere. To me it seems, the Tibetan people are victims of the superpowers, that leave no single people alone. I have only sympathy for Tibetans, who no one has a right to destroy them.
Btw. - the same thing in Palestine: occupation. If any cia or other services had studied Buddhism, instead of stealing some sentences they don't understand, the better they would behave today. These are not ideas of mind manipulation to control people and deceive them.
i am not sure to what extent is dalai lama, wittingly or unwittingly, implicated in these cynical games to trip up china.
it is a global war, whereby usrael seeks to penetrate enemy turf (russia, china and "near abroad"), chop it up and thus weaken the centre.
work thru iraq and pakistan to isolate iran, use colombia to provoke venezuela, peru and ecuador, stir up riots in tibet to unsettle china (who cares about potentially thousands of dead tibetans).
it fucks up the enemies and distracts the home retards away from disasters of the caveman economy.
they are bad, yes.
The Dalai Lama, what can he do for his people. I don't think he has ambitions to control the world.
But you're right lobro, and so it is the plutocrats money or the lack thereof, only to hope they go back to hell.
What's he done lately?
nothing, he has called for nonviolence on Tibetan side as well on the Chinese occupiers side.
Today is reported, he has said, otherwise he would resign as leader.
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.18.08 - 3:18 am
the planes, too, no-planer?
Rumsfeldian Rowan
http://restlessgeist.blogspot.co...dian-
logic.html
it hasn't fucked up Iran, lobro; it's helped it. on balance fucked itself up more.
Berkeley do you distinguish, in your
dismissal of legitimacy, between Tibetan Buddhism and that of Bhutan and Nepal for example?
there are books about the cia everywhere. To me it seems, the Tibetan people are victims of the superpowers, that leave no single people alone. I have only sympathy for Tibetans, who no one has a right to destroy them.
Fritz | 03.18.08 - 9:10 am
I think Fritz makes an interesting point. There does seem to be a global war on 'non-conforming' cultures. ie cultures which don't, won't, or haven't adopted profit and sophistry as their core reason for existence.
Apart from anything else it raises the spectre of tacit co-operation between control-freak elites the world over.
It's almost as if a decision has been made to eliminate cultures based on a 'live and let live' philosophy in case they give mindless violence, greed, dishonesty and self-indulgence a bad name.
If you delve into tibetan buddhism at all you rapidly discover that the yellow hats are the most superficial and politically corrupt of the cults. However, in general, the seasoned explorer of tibetan tantra will work his or her way through the red hats and yellow hats then eventually become absorbed in the nyingma (the black hats, so to speak).
the reason is this : tantra - at least the so-called "left hand tantra", which is the only interesting one, frankly - is about dialectically using "transgression" as a sort of trick to secure a deliberate "blowback" from the "spirit realm". Thus, one is necessarily led to step outside each of the frames of reference presented to one as "responsible" and one expands one's activities until they grasp the fact that the whole of tibetan buddhism is based on using the pre-buddhist deities (the "bon" deities) as repositories for all sorts of karmically negative energies, which are supposedly harness to the buddhist wheel of the law by correct ritual. Of course, if you can't see the dialectical aspect of this, you won't see what i am getting at.
.. ..that the yellow hats are the most superficial and politically corrupt of the cults..
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.19.08 - 2:09 am | #
So, so, why does Berkeley not ask the Tibetan people how they want to live? What an arrogance! He knows it better, superior Marxist point of view? Instead of studying the history of the Communist party, Mao's gang of cutthroats, as Burroughs said?
This here is a also a deliberate misinterpretation of Buddhism.
Could be called abuddhism, aka, who needs Buddha?
pure tantrism is not a religion but an experimental science. however, like its jewish equivalent, it is held back by a dogmatism which forces it to structure its theories around such artificial ideas as the twelve-linked chain of dependent origination etc etc etc.
Pure tantrism?
yup. like pure physics or pure psychology.
its origins appear to lie among indians, in fact. hevajra and such.
Just seems a little contradictory to use the word pure, what with it being an 'experimental science.'
That may lead one to hope/expect an even 'purer' ultimate result?
this, he is teaching, is the result:
then eventually become absorbed in the nyingma (the black hats, so to speak). Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.19.08 - 2:09 am | #
actually the hats are not the main thing (4 gallon black hat?) and not a hierarchy. And terms don't help, as the hat is full of rubbish (they are parasites?? as Berkeley is defaming them above).
The Nyingma tradition is the oldest of the four major schools of Tibetan Buddhism (the other three being the Kagyu, Sakya and Gelug). "Nyingma" literally means "ancient,"The Nyingma tradition actually comprises several distinct lineages that all trace their origins back to the Indian master Padmasambhava.
And to Sanskrit.
I didn't restrict myself to buddhism. I did mention tibetan indigenous religion : bon. Now once you have grasped that, then grasp that in its inferior position as the oldest and most 'backward' school, nyingma had most crossover with bon.
david tibet knows a lot about this, you should listen to current93 some time.
If the oldest schools are the most backward, that makes Madonna's and Britney Spears' the most advanced.
Not that I have a clue what they do there apart from puckering twat in lotus position to chew gum and blow bubbles.
'backward' (complete with inverted commas) is the term that I chose to ironically emphasise the fact that, just as with us, the most interesting things are the most suppressed things.
Nevertheless, RB, Fritz's point is as worthy of discussion, if not more so, as the (diversionary?) ins and outs of a gnat's ass re Buhddism which, in the broad scheme of things, is only one facet of one among many groups being targeted for extinction by Free Marketeers. Whether you agree or not, 'constructive extinction' and the porkies used to sanitise it should be strongly opposed and resisted - not used as an excuse to change the subject.
i understood that well enough, Rowan.
Sophistry has never been my cuppa and i should likewise have put inverted commas around the term 'advanced'.
Tibetans have understood the threat of the modern market world probably early enough to take to the strategy of distributing their Buddhist teachings to the world (the badly beaten humanity) and so evade extinction.
well yes, tibetan brand of buddhism is their most marketable and exportable product and may yet advance their interests in a way similar, albeit more honest, than h-c did for zion.
http://www.country-studies.com/b...n/
buddhism.html
Bhutanese Buddhism doesn't evidently interest Berkeley so here.
it certainly doesn't interest me any more after reading that.
http://bhutanbuddhism.blogspot.com/
yeah, but you resist the Power of Dogma.
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