Maybe it was the LaRouche Youth Movement. They don't like the WWF much.
" ... his father Nelson, 72, died of a heart attack while relaxing in the swimming pool of his winter home in Arizona, leaving his son a vast fortune. Nelson M. Davis, a long-time friend and adviser of Conrad Black, amassed his fortune mainly from transportation and trucking interests. He was chair of Toronto-based holding company Argus and chair and president of N. M. Davis Corp. Ltd., which he left to his only child.
Was he Jewish? I know Salman will deny it 
One of X's links says
... but refused to provide any further details on the victim’s background or family, whom he described as being "very devastated."
Until I find out more, I am just a tiny bit devastated.
Polish weekly slams Israeli youth
Article published in Polish newspaper accuses Israeli teens of trashing hotel rooms, traumatizing locals during educational visits to country
Itamar Eichner, YNet, 05.21.07
http://www.ynetnews.com/
articles...3402765,00.html
The relationship between Israel and Poland is in danger, according to Israel’s Ambassador to Poland, David Peleg. Peleg expressed concern for the good relations between the two countries, following the publication of an article in the Polish-language Przekroj weekly, which accused Israeli teens of damaging hotel rooms and traumatizing locals during visits to Poland. About 25,000 Israeli teens visit Poland each year. Accompanied by Shin Bet security guards, the teens visit concentration camps, and learn about the Holocaust. Recently, there has been an increase in the amount of reports in the Polish press concerning the unruly behavior of the these visitors. The article published in Przekroj, titled “Young Israeli’s run amok in Poland”, describes incidents of Israeli teens playing football in the hotel hallway at 2 am, burning carpets, breaking furniture, and leaving a mess in their beds and sinks. Other teens were accused of hiring a stripper, and still others were said to have humiliated flight attendants while flying with the Polish Lot Airlines. The article also criticized Shin Bet guards, and featured quotes by locals claiming that the guards beat them and forced them to undergo humiliating security checks. Polish sources involved in the planning of the trips told the Polish weekly that the itineraries only included visits to concentration camps. “From that perspective, Poland looks like one big Jewish cemetery, nothing more,” said Ilona Dworak-Cousin, chairman of the Israel Poland Friendship Association. "The Israeli youth sees Poles as second-class humans, and treat them as potential enemies”, said Professor Moshe Zimmerman of the Hebrew University’s History Department. Peleg said that such articles portrayed Israel’s youth in a negative light, and endangered the future of such trips. Education Ministry Director-General Shmuel Abuav questioned the credibility of the article, and said that the incidents it described would be investigated if proven true.
Having spent a year or more claiming that 'Washington' had forbidden it to talk to Syria, Israel is now planting stories in Jane's Defense Weekly to the effect that Syria is re-selling anti-aircraft missile batteries to Iran, the purpose being to demand that Syria pledge never to supply Iran with anything.
the incidents it described would be investigated if proven true..
No investigation until proven true? What kind of zionist catch-22 is that?
yeah - they love that slug-like bureaucratese.
I notice that Haaretz also uses the phrase 'army coup' in its editorial - it isn't just Avnery - but in both cases they are obscuring the reality rather than expressing it clearly:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...ges/
861882.html
The 'army coup' they are talking about is only perceptible to them because it is based on the psuedo religious nationalism of the so-called 'right' instead of their own, pseudo socialist nationalism, which they think of as 'left'.
Good eye, righteo
... investigated if proven true.
It illustrates Jewish attitude to the whole question of truth and falsity.
It is an exotic object of curiosity, no more, just like UFOs - show us physical evidence, e.g, dead extraterrestrials, their gear, and we'll investigate.
We had no clue there is such a thing as truth.
Do not handle without protective clothing.
If you watch the Ringworm Children video, you will see one appalling example of this - a health ministry spokeswoman who leers and giggles over their very obviousness as she trots out the bureaucratic evasions.
It occurs to me that the 'army coup' remarks are just a gesture in the direction of admitting the truth, which is that the israeli military is more than just the embodiment of a historical pioneer tradition, and more than just the handler for huge contracts on arms and on th efutures of countries : it is a genuine egregore, or golem - a meta being.
"The Israeli youth see Poles as second-class humans"
Now there's a news item for you. Events have made it perfectly clear that Jewish Israelis in general see all us goyim as second-class humans, or perhaps as not fully human at all.
These kids are only doing what basic psychoanalysis would predict, given their conditioning. They may also feel that deep down their naughtiness is approved of or at least understood by their teachers, who indeed collude, because teaching holohoaxstory is teaching collective deception anyway.
Yes, I must get used to switching into egregore mindset.
Like Super Mario mode.
Still, I can never be comfortable with it, like a cocaine or heroin high and even more unrealistic and unhealthy.
In fact, I am thoroughly "anti-semitic" in my belief in ultimate balance of all kinds of forces, acts and settling of metaphysical accounts.
And unwilling to pay the expected price for a short term egregore gain.
A golem is a creature of mud, right?
Ashes to ashes, mud to mud.
And I can say the above stuff without professing any kind of religious affiliation.
You all sa those Wily E Coyote midair antics: he squirts off a cliff at the full run, continues furiously pedalling in air and everything is improbably fine until he inevitably looks down and the laws of physics become clear to him.
That is Talmud, as Hillel says, evrything else is commentary.
I cam, I sa, I conq
a creature of mud, yes, but with a parchment bearing the 'name of god' clutched between its jaws. when rabbi loewe finally manages to remove the parchment, the golem falls forward on him and crushes him to death, which is a good gloomy ending.
Never admit mistakes - whaddaya mean mistake?
It's a fucking golem.
the context is that he created it with the 'righteous' purpose of 'protecting da joooooze'.
it is a genuine egregore, or golem - a meta being.
Rowan - I've often thought of the pentagon in those terms. It's no longer an agent of national foreign policy. It has become its own entity. It oversights foreign & domestic security, foreign & domestic intelligence, foreign policy, domestic politics & economy via military procurements, manpower needs especially if a draft ensues. It has overthrown international conventions and presses for immense budgets for space wars & unlimited nuclear weopans. It can kidnap anyone in the world and hold them without trial as 'terrorists'. It has 750+ foreign bases and SOFA agreements that exempt US troops from local laws. It pursues an aggressive forign policy based on a posture of military threat.
The most apt metaphor is a metastasised cancer. Even more chilling, it has been captured by zionists.
Little wonder that the israeli military has done likewise.
(I am only posting this for the 6 millionth time while chanting appeasement to haloscan)
They sure learned their historical lesson, so instead of pulling the evidence out of mud creature's mouth, they now pull hasbara out of its ass.
Play it safe, fear the Lord.
What I am describing is actually not just a parallel or even a precursor to today's spooky pentagon.
Let us assume that the denizens of the pentagon have managed to construct an egregore of their own (it is often rumoured to dwell in the little pavilion in the central space).
It will not be a patch on the jewish one, it will just be mostly astral robotics and bits of fluff copied from cia programs.
Tsahal etc. are just vehicles for the banditry of the tribe, mere limbs of the collective being.
"The Israeli youth see Poles as second-class humans"
Now there's a news item for you. Events have made it perfectly clear that Jewish Israelis in general see all us goyim as second-class humans, or perhaps as not fully human at all.
traducteur | 05.21.07 - 9:18 am | #
"The Talmud states that ... two contrary types of souls exist, a non-Jewish soul comes from the Satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness ... Rabbi Kook, the Elder, the revered father of the messianic tendency of Jewish fundamentalism said, 'The difference between a Jewish soul and the souls of non-Jews ... is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle.'"
- Israel Shahak and Norton Mezvinsky's "Jewish Fundamentalism in Israel"
http://www.cactus48.com/
fundamen...amentalism.html
IOW, the philosophy of supremacists. And in the report from Poland, we see that philosophy in action.
probably on purpose, Shahak attributes to the Talmud a specific proposition (viz. the three spheres of impurity) which actually comes from the Tanya of the Lubavitchers.
U$rael seems to have covertly built up the Fath ul Islam movement in Tripoli, then gone with a song and dance to the Lebanese government and demanded that they attack it. Lebanon, you see, has been insufficiently willing, in spite of all encouragement, to plunge into a Hizbullah-Sunni civil war.
The Israel Defense Forces called up 35 reservists on emergency orders to serve in Sderot on Monday
I've started eating meat again, after twenty or thirty years of vegetarianism - obviously, it's time to unleash the beast within
"The police arrested Fatah Islam members accused of robbing banks then gunmen from the Palestinian refugee camp attacked police stations and set cars on fire"
Two things then:
'National Liberation Movements' often indulge in bank robbery drug running and general thuggery to fund their power, and yesterdays
huge car bomb in Christian Beirut was the Israelis doing, to cause further unrest.
Now, before Rowan gets on his high horse to proclaim that they are for the most part SECULAR in Israel, and that what I have posted is therefore irrelevant, let me suggest he take cognizance of the commentary by Israel Shahak via the link provided below,
http://www.cactus48.com/
fundamen...amentalism.html
eating meat again
grass fed lamb is good.
And the brave Lebanese army is now pounding the Nahr al-Barid refugee camp.
If Haloscan seems to be down, try connecting via the permanent link, works for me.
Meet Democrat Dennis Kucinich's Wife: She's A New Age, Tongue-Pierced Brit
Sunday, May 20, 2007
...
She describes Dennis as a “very philosophical, deep thinking person” rather than a new age type, but he is a vegan, unlike her — she still cannot resist occasional dairy products.
At Kent she unexpectedly signed up for a master’s degree in conflict resolution after meeting the course lecturer in a pub. She knew she had chosen the right subject when her final exam took place on September 11, 2001.
...
http://www.libertyforum.org/show...sb=5&o=21&
part=
You have to remember that Shahak and Mezvinsky are what your good ol' boys would have called card carrying communists.
This is why I was talking about the parallax error that causes errors in mapping the political landscape - leftists exaggerate so much regarding rightists, and rightists exaggerate so much regarding leftists, that you end up mismapping the real political object.
Tanya: Is this another red herring of yours, Rowan, invoking this gobbledygook?
Tanya is also known as Mahzor and contains rituals and prayers that fit under the overall umbrella of the Talmud. It contains, for instance, the notorious Kol Nidre. It is not exclusive to Lubavitchers, as explained in the Jewish Encyclopedia.
So your clarification (if that is what you meant it to be) is no clarification at all. It is obscurantism, to cover a trail and mislead, after the time-honoured custom of the best of the rabbis.
Not only are you a Jew; you seem also to be a rabbi.
You have to remember that Shahak and Mezvinsky are what your good ol' boys would have called card carrying communists.
Rowan Berkeley | 05.21.07 - 10:48 am | #
That's pretty good if you wanna stick with ad hominems, Rowan. Got any criticism of substance?
What they are writing about is the Talmud and the halacha. But you steer well clear of that and stick to the tried-and-true guttersnipe method, don't you?
Tanya is also known as Mahzor and contains rituals and prayers that fit under the overall umbrella of the Talmud. It contains, for instance, the notorious Kol Nidre. It is not exclusive to Lubavitchers, as explained in the Jewish Encyclopedia.
-- if you can find that series of statements in the jewish encyclopedia, or anywhere, then please, paste them in.
What's with haloscan today?
I just can't seem to get aboard.
Let's try my Odigo browser ... great, it worked.
Membership has its privileges.
Sounds like an inane Marx Bros dialogue:
The service is not available. Please try later.
You said it already. Duplicate post.
What do you mean duplicate? You never got it the first time, I told you to try later.
You said it already. Triplicate post...
The various secular or quasi-secular philosophies of history that the (always fecund) jews have developed in Israel - in hebrew - without translation occurring except occasionally to yiddish or russian - is large.
'Quasi-secular' in that they generally involve the Hegelian idea of a Spirit of History.
Taking the fifth doesn't always imply confession of guilt. Sometimes it just means you were thirsty.
Spirit of History ... an attractive concept, especially, as Juan says, if you are thirsty.
No wonder Jews were always into booze business.
It runs itself, like any perpetuum mobile, provided you ship in sufficient quantities of African slaves to provide pedalling effort.
Ah, to dream, to take flight powered by the winged Spirit of History ... hey, don't slack off down there you $%#@& shegetzim!
Sounds like an inane Marx Bros dialogue:
The service is not available. Please try later.
You said it already. Duplicate post.
What do you mean duplicate? You never got it the first time, I told you to try later.
You said it already. Triplicate post...
lobro | 05.21.07 - 11:40 am | #
Clear your cookies and reload the page. Insta-kabbala, shibboleth not included.
Its not the cookies, its haloscan. their database servers went out of sync, they said. they were down completely for six hours or something - this was three days ago i think.
I flushed 'em and hopefully the life improves accordingly.
the Hegelian conception of the "spirit of history" has shown itself at once too subtle and too jejune for general acceptance...
http://www.efm.bris.ac.uk/het/se...an/
econinte.htm
Too Jew-june for me ...
"When we succeed in killing off all the shiksas and shegetzim, we will have tikkun olam." --Rabbi Mordecai Weiss
Racism is a serious matter only in conjunction with power. The Talmud could refer to the goyim as subhuman and recommend their extermination all it liked and no harm done, as Jewish leaders of that age lacked the power to give effect to the recommendation. The peculiar horror of Zionism is that the genocidal provisions of the Talmud, and the Torah too, are not only taken seriously but can be implemented by means of the power of the Israeli state.
That's quite true, and I am rather interested in the linguistic filters that allow the genocidal imperative to be re-encoded for the non-religious population as some sort of 'mission civilisatrice'.
The Talmud could refer to the goyim as subhuman and recommend their extermination all it liked and no harm done, as Jewish leaders of that age lacked the power to give effect to the recommendation.
So, why is Zundel in jail?
1) He has no power to implement anything,
2) Ne never called for extermeination of anyone at all, in fact he is a committed pacifist
Because questioning Holocaust is much, much worse than inciting extermination of shiksas and shegetzim
In fact, it is ... are you ready ... Hate Speech
I really can't make up my mind about Fredo's quote
Ron Paul has put the Zionist media on the defensive by stating correctly in the GOP debate 9/11 was blowback for immoral imperialist Middle East policy. Zionist demands for his further exclusion from debates have come forth.
It says.. When we succeed in killing off all the whatevers and whatchamacallits we will then have someotherfukinthing.
Does that help?
There is nothing quite like Rabbinical logic. It's like open architecture, you can make anything fit any way you want it to.
it's bogus, fredo - you picked the wrong rabbi - mordy weiss = NK
oh no - there is a mordecai weiss ministering to the thuggish west bank occupying woolly hat crowd:
http://www.northjersey.com/
page....jd2cWVlRUV5eTI=
It's really hard to sum the whole thing, settlers, religious, military, golem and all, than Petras here:
Israel’s military-industries, central to its economy, the political leverage of the settler parties, religious fundamentalists and security apparatus, and the Israeli state’s dependence on multi-billion dollar handouts from the US treasury and wealthy right-wing militarist Jewish donors means that Israel is structurally incapable of coming to any peace for land agreement. The re-settlement of a half-million armed fanatical Jewish settlers into pre-1967 Israel, the peaceful re-conversion of Israel’s military industries and maintaining support from overseas Zionist plutocrats without the rhetoric of ‘existential military threats’ is beyond the boundaries of the Israeli political class as it is currently constituted. The deep integration and subordination of the Zionist Power Configuration to the Israeli power structure results in the demands of Israel’s settler-military-industrial complex getting transmitted into the US Congress and Executive and eventually into policy.
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/20...dle-east-
policy
as far as I can recall, it was during the Netanyahu prime ministership that the national radio stations in israel started referring to the west bank using the religious-zionist term "judea and samaria" ... if they ever change that, i will be very surprised. a campaign to change it would be an interesting experiment though.
"Even more chilling, it has been captured by zionists."
no, you haven't followed this. it is the p o w e r which is the monster that eats up more and more the bigger it gets. call it the military-industrial complex or whatever - this monster is b i l l e t t e d on america, on israel, on china . . . . it eats up both its enemies (iraq) and its friends. it has overblown its budget until it can buy the people who control the budget. it even owns its enemies. nothing can stop it now but the finite nature of the world.
in the middle ages 'free companies' lived off the settled population as if in enemy territory. that is the precedent. but like all predators, they had to move on quickly when they had drained the grain / livestock / resources of a particular locality.
it is the power monster that has captured america, and israel, and so far no-one has devised a way to arrest a carrier battle group.
Re judea & samaria, etc.
I think the religiosity in current zionism is just the end-product of a stalinist re-invention of jewish history. In that sense, it isn't even 'real religiosity' (if there can be such a thing, without it already being a contradiction in terms).
How do the rest of you put italics into your posts?
Finally a question I can answer - type the following HTM code (no spaces):
1. ""
4. your text (to be italicized)
5. same as 1.
6. "/i"
7. same as 3.
Goddam holoscan, playing sadistic tricks on naive, honest lobro.
About 1/3 of my post was suppressed.
There must be an escape character for haloscan - Rowan, is there a Kol Nidre character in the ascii sequence?
Again, traduc:
1. less-than character
2. i
3. greater-than
4. your text
5. less-than
6. /i
7. greater-than
And f*** haloscan
Never ending geoexpansionist terms:
Judea, Samaria and Bavaria.
Any clues what next - Zogia?
italic
- if you can find that series of statements in the jewish encyclopedia, or anywhere, then please, paste them in.
Rowan Berkeley | 05.21.07 - 11:17 am | #
Trouble is, you don't actually READ posts, do you? If you had read, then you would have seen that I already provided links. Check my post that begins with "Tanya".
It seems mr. Berkeley is unaware, that mr. Hitler was a vegetarian.
Thus the "funny" "theory" about any connection between vegetarianism and peacefulness of course = nonsense.
Same goes for the rest of the
"theories" popping up here and there in this strange, esoteric AND talmudic-exegetic rabbi-milieu "here".
A lot of jews in Israel are obviously racist, as are a whole bunch of people living in most imperialist states. And: which state isn't imperialist? Seems to me that any state since at least ancient Rome, Sparta and Athens has been. "The Myth of the Machine" by Lewis Mumford gives a kind of explanation at least far better than this mysticism and golem-nonsense. Entities like armies, Pentagon etc. = the pyramids of our times. Bureaucrats make their termite dwellings. The israeli problem is that of all idealists, sectarians and dogmatics like you all here, like the whole "world opinion" of today: They believe that words = reality. They believe in the logos-teachings of St. John. Just like ancient idiots, they belive they can change reality simply by writing words.
In Israels case also, this silliness carries it's own payback: Israel fx. is eagerly destroying the whole groundwater reserve of the region in the silly belief that they "make the desert bloom". In reality they just make the desertification of the whole palestinian/israeli region inevitable for centuries to come, in other words: they slowly destroy the natural basis for any human life in this region in the long run, and thus also for their zionist state. Let the zionists run mad as they want. Thereby they only destroy themselves. But any historical nemesis and irony of history of course is closed land for anti-dialectical idiots. Precisely therefore are the odds that humanity will be able to survive the next century around 1:1000. The reason is simple: most human beings don't learn from history, they prefer to repeat it in ever more silly ways, and this stubbornness in idiocy they call by name of their different atavistic religions, among which the most widespread today is called
"economics", wherein god = "the invisible hand" of the so-called
"market".
mr. anonymous,
vegetarians use less ressources than you dialecticans. And what books have you read about Herrn Hitler? He has considered history intensively.
"most human beeings dont learn from history", you´re right, but not because they dont use dialectics: they are embedded in consumerism if so lucky not having to starve - others are occupied with making profit and insane markets, that are revered like a modern religion. As the senior journalist Peter Scholl-Latour said: "if they are preaching today: the market will regulate everything - it is as silly as saying: death will regulate everything"
Sad, sad, as it looks like with overpopulation and this insane economy, the natural ressources will be wasted rapidly...
but dont you realize that the zionists have been war- mongering against Iraq and Palestine?
Just some history:
http://
www.associatedcontent.com..._the_third.html
The Mystic Secret Weapon of the Third Reich - A look at the occult side of Nazi Germany - By ABH Alexander
You have to remember that Shahak and Mezvinsky are what your good ol' boys would have called card carrying communists.
Are we misreading this? Israel Shahak was a staunch anti-communist.
Israel fx. is eagerly destroying the whole groundwater reserve of the region in the silly belief that they "make the desert bloom". In reality they just make the desertification of the whole palestinian/israeli region inevitable for centuries to come,
Not to worry, the ice caps will all melt and sea level will rise 20 feet. Then what will they do with all that water.
-----again (the link above is in 10 pages - this is on 1 page) - :
The Mystic Secret Weapon of the Third Reich
A Look at the Occult Side of Nazi Germany
posted 20 May 2007
By ABH Alexander
http://fufor.twoday.net/stories/3753579/
Ron Paul has put the Zionist media on the defensive by stating correctly in the GOP debate 9/11 was blowback for immoral imperialist Middle East policy. Zionist demands for his further exclusion from debates have come forth.
Ken Hoop | 05.21.07 - 2:24 pm |
Golly Ken you must be ecstatic that RP has used 'blowback' in the current electoral discourse. It's what you've always been saying: 'blowback'. So if RP says 'blowback' then 'blowback' it is. He dodges the well known fact that the US-ZOG helped out quite a bit, but hey this is electoral politics and precise truth is never used in electioneering sound bites.
Probably RP has advanced knowledge about 9/11 (as do all congresscritters), but only RB has advanced the debate one step forward from 'they hate our freedoms'.
man the jews DID 9-11, who in their right minds can't figure this out?
Sal - you know that, I know that, you know I know that, I know you know I know that, and RP knows that too.
Just in electioneering RP happens to be making a brave step to say 'blowback'.
There's a witty rewrite of what RP should have said at libertyforum.org but I can't find it at the moment.
Fritz - I have quite a few detailed examples of this 'occult reich' stuff being manufactured by the brits (especially the very talented ellic howe, who was to occultism what selfton delmer was to sex).
Kei and Yuri - what can I say - no one in that supposedly intellectual country ever admits to being anything ; Mezvinsky says describes him as "a lover of prophetic Judaism and a disciple of Spinoza" which is israeli code for some sort of hard to nail down socialistic view.
This sounds bogus to me : "Hamas spokesmen went on the air Monday night calling out their adherents to cross all red lines and hit Israeli targets." (DEBKafile)
only RB has advanced the debate one step forward from 'they hate our freedoms'.
righteo | 05.22.07 - 12:58 am
-- goodness - thank you. What I have done is this : instead of treating zionist seduction versus critical realism as mutually exclusive, I have allowed myself to follow both at once. Since seduction is not based on rational or moral criteria, but solely on images, it is actually quite easy to disable the link that would say "either you drool over hot zionist chicks and listen to zionist rock, or you fight them".
Hamas ended up with the worst of all worlds: compromising its principles by implicitly recognizing Israel but, because its recognition was not explicit, prompting US and European sanctions against the people of Palestine.
http://www.redress.cc/palestine/
...redress20070521
-- in other words, mashaal and co. are simply sirens, calling the people to nowhere.
righteo, thnx for the bouncy and circular but correct logic (lol - i find it humorous the way u said it) - well why doesn't Ron Paul avoid mentioning 9-11 if he knows the truth?
lobro, Conrad Black, Nelson Davis, and Radler are the slimiest Jewish greaseballs in the face of the earth. It's surprising how there ain't no honour amongst thieves.
lobro, what do you think about deporting that troublesome tribe? I mean medieval Europeans did it whenever the Jews got outta hand. Muslims rarely let the Jews get outta hand - so deportation wasn't a question that ever came up - but only in rare cases. I think the West can implement some form of "discriminatory" restrictions on Jewish influence, finance, and manipulation, and "power".
RP not RB. (As spike milligan called himself, the 'well known typo' a.k.a. mike spilligen).
RP = Ron Paul.
righteo, I know you meant RP as in Ron Paul, but he's lying publicly and enforcing lies.
I think he meant RP Ron Paul. But go ahead and take some credit RB, that is what you have been saying all along too.
What is that they do hate? if someone could put it succinctly. Because in spite of chuffing freedom down their throats, they would still be a damn lot better off with it than without it.
It makes no sense we give up ours so they can have theirs, but you would think they would at least have some appreciation for that.
It makes me wonder if there isn't really some conspiratorial agenda after all.
awww, shucks. oh well:
question of the day:
IS ERIC HUFSCHMID THE ALAN DERSHOWITZ OF THE 'TRUTH MOVEMENT'?
http://planetquo.net/NOLAJBS/
Inf...tile_Mentalitus
plus also an interesting talk by Annie Machon:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/medi.../05//
371108.mp3
right click and save, it's a slow connection.
Rowan - at that planetquo link the guys are sussing out the multiple identities of internet posters. Are these multiple posters paid guvmint agents? Or are they simply internet addicts trolling around forums for kicks?
Really seems like a storm in a very tiny teacup. People who read forums recogise the crap posters & disregard them.
Mind you the Feds must be having a fine old time watching the internet world and identifying who are the thought criminals for future reference. I don't put that past them for one minute.
If DBS reads forums to guage his popularity he's probably not too wise. They would love to whiteant him that way.
Eric is nuts when he lists a horde of zionist agents including Rudolf, Zundel, etc. etc. You have to wonder why he is so scatter shot in a field he evidently knows little about. That sounds rather ADL-ish to me.
Bollyn evidently has a complex life history and maybe that is why he is a good journalist. I think he's the most articulate of the three. He has made some wrong calls, IMO the Stanley Praimath story and the Sam Danner story (which I missed out when it happened). Bollyn is the current target for disabling by whatever means, the obvious one being lawcourts. He may have stepped into a trap, but I expect they knew how to play on his psyche to set the trap.
So, my conclusion is that internet forums are filled with wankers & these guys think they are sharp for spotting the wankers. DBS, Eric & Bollyn are doing their best as ordinary fallible mortals. So what's new?
I just finished reading that whole exposé, and it really does seem to me that the person known who is responsible for this site:
http://www.takeourworldback.com
really is a 'zionist agent'.
Notice the 'ponerology' references - compare Laura Knight-Jadczyk (I have to keep looking up and pasting in the second half of her surname):
http://www.cassiopaea.org/
More Hufsmith bashin' fools:
http://www.opposingdigits.com/fo...opic.php?
t=3364
Yes, that's a pretty weird scene - her husband the Polish guy is actually a competent mathematician - how they coexist with that channeling bullshit all the time is beyond me.
That was me
We have good reasons to believe that Daryl Bradford Smith could be a Sephardic Jew who may be taking advantage of the situation in Palestine. If they were able to convince the world to whipe out the Khazars; wouldn't that leave a hole that Sephardic Jews could fill where Daryl Bradford Smith himself may plan to rule from?
Remember the good old days
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2u4a42K2Mls
and one of the best! documentary EVER MADE!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118147/
How old are these people, five?
RB - one of my puzzlements about Eric is that he is so persuasive about the Apollo Hoax yet is so blind about the 9/11 Planes Hoax.
It's as if he wrote his 9/11 book, DVD & website, and decided that he was the last word on the entire subject.
Very odd.
I like to see similar book get published on the true face of Nelson Mandela:
http://www.amazon.com/Gandhi-Div...h/dp/
1573929980
yes - i see what you mean, "."
Kei and Yuri - when an israeli is described as a 'spinozist', what do you think it really means?
Eureka! Thanks, lobro!
Fake Al Qaeda
"Ana raicha Al Qaeda" is colloquial for "I'm going to the toilet". A very common and widespread use of the word “Al-Qaeda” in different Arab countries in the public language is for the toilet bowl. This name comes from the Arabic verb “Qa'ada” which mean “to sit”, pertinently, on the “Toilet Bowl”. In most Arabs homes there are two kinds of toilets: “Al-Qaeda” also called the "Hamam Franji" or foreign toilet, and "Hamam Arabi" or “Arab toilet” which is a hole in the ground. Lest we forget it, the potty used by small children is called "Ma Qa'adia" or "Little Qaeda".
So, if you were forming a terrorist group, would you call yourself, "The Toilet"?
http://
www.whatreallyhappened.co...akealqaeda.html
I don't know if this was ever posted to the board here. If not, then, to those fluent in Arabic: your comments, please?
Me and Cal, in reference to your recent exchange about the Bronfmans, here's two links that may be of interest:
Bronfman and the Mafia Sell Out the United States to Russia
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/
h...headlines.shtml
Bronfman, Bush, Cheney
Seagrams, Zapata, Brown & Root
ALL INTERCONNECTED IN THE SPIDER'S WEB
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/
c...onfmanbush.html
If the links above do not work, go to
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/
then click on "conspiracy" and scroll down until you find the links to the articles.
Cheers,
X
Xenophile, I always find this detail odd:
5) NASA's Security Division--Werner Von Braun, headquarters in Redstone Arsenal in Muscle Shoals, Alabama and on East Broad Street in Columbus, Ohio.
-- I mean, von Braun was a rocket man, not a spook.
I don't think there is much to be read in it. IMO, v.Braun had only technical and scientific security clearance, and was not involved in intelligence work. On the other hand, given the "Paperclip" itself was secret, and could raise many an eyebrow if made cover of Life Magazine, I guess they just chose to keep the Germans safely under wraps.
This is what Redston Arsenal's website has to say about it:
"In the interest of economy and efficiency, the Secretary of the Army approved the transfer of the Ordnance Research and Development Division Sub-Office (Rocket) at Fort Bliss, Texas, to Redstone Arsenal on 28 October 1949. Among those transferred were Dr. Wernher von Braun and his team of German scientist and technicians who had come to the United States under "Operation PAPERCLIP" during 1945 and 1946. After its transfer to Redstone, the sub-office was redesignated the Ordnance Guided Missile Center on 15 April 1950."
http://www.redstone.army.mil/his...st/
welcome.html
yeah, right - but because it sounds so lurid, our jewish conspirological friends love to say that von Braun was put in charge of the intel (by which they mean, secrecy and security) aspect, thus setting him up with responsibility for all sorts of alien wet job stories too.
Britain to charge Russian over Litvinenko death
Reuters via YNet, 05.22.07
http://www.ynetnews.com/
articles...3403347,00.html
British prosecutors will charge ex-KGB agent Andrei Lugovoy with the murder of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, who died in London last year after being poisoned with radioactive polonium. The Crown Prosecution Service said in a statement on Tuesday there was enough evidence to charge Lugovoy and seek his extradition over the death of Litvinenko. "I have today concluded that the evidence sent to us by the police is sufficient to charge Andrei Lugovoy with the murder of Mr Litvinenko by deliberate poisoning," CPS head Ken Macdonald said.
Britain to charge Russian over Litvinenko death
Reuters via YNet, 05.22.07
http://www.ynetnews.com/
articles...3403347,00.html
British prosecutors will charge ex-KGB agent Andrei Lugovoy with the murder of former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, who died in London last year after being poisoned with radioactive polonium. The Crown Prosecution Service said in a statement on Tuesday there was enough evidence to charge Lugovoy and seek his extradition over the death of Litvinenko. "I have today concluded that the evidence sent to us by the police is sufficient to charge Andrei Lugovoy with the murder of Mr Litvinenko by deliberate poisoning," CPS head Ken Macdonald said.
Cheers,
X
Xenophile | 05.22.07 - 7:52 am | #
Thanks, Xenophile, for your links on the Bronfmans.
The attack on the USS Cole: A practice run for the coming Iran 'False Flag' operation.
Hidden evil nazi? Only in jewish-fed popular demonology.
One cannot exclude though, that he may have been privy to some extraordinary projects at the intersection of astronautics and cinematography. The designs speculations in Kubrick's 2001: a Space Odyssey are copied verbatim from v.Braun's own speculations. Many say this undeclared cooperation was a two-way road.
Wunnerful news from Canada: Stalinism/Zionism off the leash.
The CHRC (Canadian Human "Rights" Commission) is expanding to suppress even more of rational and scholarly Internet criticism of our Izzy friends:
http://www.pacificfreepress.com/...t/view/1240/81/
Inspired by the previous tidbit and in honour of freedom of speech, I am posting here a presentation on another holocaust that the jews would prefer not to hear about:
The Armenian holocaust Of 1915.
The CHRC (Canadian Human "Rights" Commission) is expanding to suppress even more of rational and scholarly Internet criticism of our Izzy friends:
Cal Dalton | 05.22.07 - 9:24 am | #
I presume Xymph will have something to say on this?
there's a two-hour audio file here where jason bermas meets pat curley of screwloose change:
http://tnrlive.com/archives/Bish...May-18-
2007.mp3
in the second hour of which you hear curley (who is in ny real estate) agreeing to treat 'loose change' as 'at least not into antisemitism'.
nice deal, if you can get it.
at about minute 87, they suddenly ambush bermas with a question about 'hurting america' and in his reply he revealingly says "if i believed that some muslims had attacked america without the help of a foreign government ... or without internal help from within this government ... "
the fact that his first thought was "help of a foreign government" undermines his official stance, which is lihop plus.
Wayne Madsen passes on without comment an allegation which claims both 'al Qaeda' (the toilet) and 'Hamas' (the mess) were financed by Citibank using embezzled money from a Saudi bank deal. It's the second of the May 22 stories and as is common in these smear jobs the real poison is at the end.
It's the third story dated May 22 actually, here it is:
WMR has received documents sent to one of the presidential campaigns from Leonard D. Wallace, a former business associate of former Enron Vice Chairman J. Clifford Baxter, that provides details of Al Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks being financed through Citigroup/Citibank. The document states that Baxter, who was to appear before a congressional committee to testify on Enron's dubious business practices, died from a reported suicide on January 18, 2002. According to the document received from Baxter's associate, the former Vice Chairman of Enron was planning to expose Citigroup's knowledge of Saudi banks, some of which it had a financial stake, were funding the terrorists who were responsible for carrying out the 9/11 attacks.
Wallace writes, "this cover-up of criminal misconduct has certainly been perpetrated both at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, DC and at Citigroup's 399 Park Avenue address in New York City." The document goes on to state, "Alberto Gonzales, and the U.S. Department of Justice that he heads, have successfully blocked any investigation of Citigroup, despite evidence that has been presented to them."
Wallace also writes, "I was brought into this spider web of greed and illegality by J. Clifford Baxter, a business associate of mine who was at one time vice chairman of Enron. Through his relationship with Robert Rubin at Citigroup's Chairman's Suite in New York City, in August 2001, I became privy to a series of business transactions planned by Citigroup that I began to realize were not only illegal but also aiding international terrorism from Saudi Arabia. I complained to Citigroup's senior executives and their board, and Cliff told me and others that he was going to expose this bank fraud of Citigroup and Saudi banks. Then, about 30 days after my first letter to Citigroup's chairman, Cliff suddenly died on January 18, 2002 from what is to this day still considered a very questionable suicide."
In a letter dated February 14, 2005 to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Wallace presents the background of his case: "I had a prior association in a $1.5 billion armored vehicle project with J. Clifford Baxter, the former Enron executive who died mysteriously in January 2002. As a result of that project, there are two public companies that can corroborate my participation and the integrity with which I conducted myself.
In August 2001, Cliff told me that he was involving me in securing $5 billion in loans and the subsequent investment of these funds. The collateral was to be located at Citibank Singapore, and he said that he would provide me with 4 pages of posting instructions."
The loan deal eventually was handed over to a Citibank Miami vice president -- on September 10, 2001. Wallace writes, "During the next 100 days, up until mid-December, Citigroup, through its headquarters and elsewhere, clearly orchestrated a well-coordinated conspiracy whose major impacts were going to be the defrauding of another bank and the acquisition of ill-gotten gains that would be received and/or distributed to others by Citigroup's senior management. It was represented to me by Citigroup officials and their documentation that the "others" included Account 98 activities, which I later learned were synonymous with the funding of terrorist organizations."
"Citigroup Singapore supplied a false inventory and authentication about Federal Reserve Bonds that supposedly were being used as collateral for the $5 billion loans. Citibank headquarters in Manhattan and Citibank Miami confirmed the authenticity of these bogus bonds. The posting instructions they provided me referred to Account 98s to be managed by unknown operatives in Saudi Arabia at SAMBA Bank, of which Citigroup was a major stockholder." [WMR previously reported on and provided a canceled SAMBA (Saudi American Bank) check written to a group affiliated with Hamas. This editor was personally told by a former chief of Mossad in October 2002 that if one wanted to find out where Al Qaeda received its funding, one would need not look further than the six largest U.S. banks, one of which is Citigroup].
I can see two ways to read this - one is as disinfo intended to deflect attention from Mossad as the executive agency running 'al Qaeda', but the other is a smear linking 'al Qaeda' to 'Hamas' (right at the end).
This smear however backfires if the reader calls the bluff involved in
mentioning the supposedly genuine and righteous resistance organisation 'Hamas' and says "yay - they are both equally black ops. - 'al Qaeda' and 'Hamas' equally!"
This is not what Madsen, whose target audience is the left liberal, wants them to say - he wants them to reason backwards and conclude that 'Hamas', though valiant and praiseworthy (noble savages) has unfortunately fallen into the trap
of being funded by the same people who fund 'al Qaeda' ,and has hence become a danger to itself and others.
Anne Frank memorial in Idaho hit by vandals
AP via YNet, 05.22.07
http://www.ynetnews.com/
articles...3403224,00.html
Vandals toppled and damaged a bronze statue of Holocaust victim Anne Frank in Idaho's capital two months after the memorial was plastered with neo-Nazi stickers. Damage to the 500-pound statue of the girl, whose diary written in hiding from the Nazis during World War II made her a human rights heroine, included a broken finger and scrapes on the head. In March the five-year-old, $1.8 million Idaho Anne Frank Human Rights Memorial was plastered with swastika-emblazoned stickers promoting the neo-Nazi group Combat 18, and identical stickers were attached to the Islamic Center of Boise. Combat 18 is a loosely organized group that is believed to have originated in Britain. The life-sized memorial depicts Anne Frank standing atop a chair just south of downtown along the Boise River. Vandals uprooted the chair, sending the entire sculpture crashing to the ground below. A landscaping rock was also overturned. Amy Herzfeld, director of the Idaho Human Rights Education Center, said Monday it was unclear whether the latest damage was ideologically motivated or opportunistic vandalism. "Whether or not it was anti-Semitic, it was certainly a destructive and hurtful act," Herzfeld said. "The amount of energy that it took to topple to statue, whether it was a spontaneous decision or not, it certainly required significant amount of force." Nobody was arrested in the case of the stickers, which were removed without damage to the memorial. Herzfeld said the city Parks and Recreation Department stored the damaged statue and expected to restore it to the site as soon as possible. The artist, based in Massachusetts, has been contacted about repair options. Popular with tour groups, the memorial was visited by about 900 students on Friday, a day before the vandalism was took place either Saturday night or early Sunday morning. The memorial, erected in 2002, was funded by donations from students, business leaders and philanthropists, including Greg Carr, who also bought the former Aryan Nations neo-Nazi compound in Hayden Lake in northern Idaho in 2001 to turn it into a human rights museum. Anne Frank, born in Frankfurt, Germany, in 1929, chronicled her days in hiding in the Dutch city of Amsterdam from 1942 to 1944, when her family was arrested by the occupying Nazis. She died of typhus in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in March 1945 at age 16. The diary was published after the end of World War II and has sold an estimated 75 million copies worldwide. Police in Boise, along with the Ada County Human Rights Task Force, are offering a combined $1,500 reward for information leading to an arrest for the vandalism. "This monument honors the triumph of the human spirit in the face of adversity, and damaging the monument can be seen as an attempt to damage that spirit in our community," said Janet Lawler, chairwoman of the Ada Coun
"This monument honors the triumph of the human spirit in the face of adversity, and damaging the monument can be seen as an attempt to damage that spirit in our community," said Janet Lawler, chairwoman of the Ada County Human Rights Task Force. "We can't let that happen."
-- that's right folks, we can't let them damage the human spirit (?)
Idaholocaust
... made her a human rights heroine, included a broken finger and scrapes on the head.
Well, she finally suffers some certifiable damage, our 500 lb heroine.
Are there any reliable stats on how many non-captive (i.e., excluding schoolchildren's field trips) visitors go to Holocaust museums? And how many are genuflecting gentiles?
depicts Anne Frank standing atop a chair and it weighs 500 lbs. I wish someone had nuked it.
Rowan & All,
Do you know who is behind "Avaaz.org"?
Thank you!
It is sponsored by resPublica, a liberal mini think tank, and MoveOn.org, which is run by this highly talented individual, Eli Pariser:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Pariser
Hope he has talent for honesty ...
I signed their petition to canadian parliament to stop the theft of iraqi oil ... chances of getting harper's attention ahead of his judaic master's avaaz http://thumbsnap.com/v/jfczOYsp.jpg are high, hehe.
Go, nipper bite some muslim ass!
I think another blog would be good, I wonder what I should call it.
I'm beginning to understand why Cal credits Astucia what with the former not giving credit where credit is due to the Arab resistance above.
righteo, I know you meant RP as in Ron Paul, but he's lying publicly and enforcing lies.
Salman Hossain | 05.22.07 - 2:06 am
Pauls is telling the truth, but I suppose you would also pass a polygraph so you are telling "a"
truth.
Ken, shuddup, honestly you just love talkin outta your ass - if Ron Paul tells how Americans gotta still hunt for the long gone dead OBL and how "Al Quaida" the non-existent carried out 9-11, then he's a fucking liar.
Rowan Berkeley | 05.22.07 - 4:42 pm |
"Ask Rowan" ?
...Ken, since you credit the "Arabs" for carrying out 9-11, perhaps you should have been in the towers when the Jews blew it up.
There is a new 9-11 conspiracy theory:
The WTC was hit by a giant Toilet (reference Cal's post above) ... now all the engineering wonks are debating what happens when shit hits the fan.
19 Arabs + 5 Dancing Jews were awfully skilled pilots, from personal experience I know how hard it is to fly a toilet.
Should all the Arab/Moslem professors and activists on American college campuses who say likewise i.e.those sorts whom David Horowitz complains about and wants muzzled, have been killed in the Towers too
little Sal?
if they go around promoting jewish propaganda like your ass, then yea, sure ..why not? They're in the same brainwashing/brainwashed camp as you. So yea. Most definitely. Of course they should have been in it if they believe and/or propagate such nonsense.
Betcha Sallie's as much a chickenhawk as Cheney.
Salman, you are not the only one who badmouths Ken.
It seems that Jews hate him just as much if not more.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/arch...ves/
005582.html
You are alright, Ken.
You are such an anti-semite ken ... wonder how all the other posters here put up with you, always harrassing us for our adherence to talmud.
lolol, Ken is playing both sides of the coin. If he dislikes Jews, he shouldn't comment on those of us who claim the Jews did 9-11.
Thanks Lobro-
wasn't even aware Larry posted this.
the salient thing to me of course he evades...there were sundry more "shocking" things mentioned and discussed at that AR conference.
Except perhaps to a dual loyalist.
Sallie's coin is made of fool's gold.
You see, Sallie were I playing both sides of the same coin I would be
defending Israel's continuing existence on this and other sites.
Instead of calling for a plebiscite
after all dispossessed Palestinians
were allowed to return, which would
decide how the area was to be governed.
And I'm sorry you are playing the
"like/dislike/hate" game of the political oppoenent.
ok well ken, you know what, LIHOP doesn't work for jack shit, and you can take your LIHOP theories up the ass.
lobro, if Ken is such an "anti-Semite", why doesn't he talk about Jewish involvement in 9-11?
I'm not an anti-Semite ,li'l Sallie.
And the test for effective political opposition to Zionist control of the US Congress is not MIHOP.
Hell of a journalist, this "hoop" feller is. He can't spell any better than a pig can play a tune on a fart, can't stumble upon one cogent sentence any more than a spastic can cure his condition with alcoholism, and seems to think that his modified doo-hickey is a fire hose with which to spray forum regulars, since their arguments burn too hot.
Well, that's probably as close to "regularity" as he'll ever get. Yeah, given the choice between fool's gold and the hoopster's liquid gold, I know what I'm choosing.
lobro, I know you are being sarcastic, but come on man, its more than 5 years after the fact, and Ken promoting leftist jewish propaganda - "LIHOP" style is downright offensive and just plain stupid
Ken, it's not restricted to the "Zionists" anymore, we just need to deport all the members of that fucking tribe.
Ken, when you see a pack of heebs in explosives running through your 'hood trying to blow up your nearest church, then will you switch to MIHOP ? or still stick to the same old LIHOP BS?
Actually, that Hoop As Anti-Semite post is a perfect textbook example of Talmudic echo chamber.
This is how it works:
Ken:Asking American Jews to put AMERICA FIRST in an organization purporting to point to a reinvigoration for our Culture should be no big deal.
Auster:when people send me things deserving or requiring response, I will respond.
In other words, someone wrote to Auster saying Hoop Is Anti-Semite, now it's just a matter of playing with dials, turning up the smear volume.
Auster continues:They were wishing the death and destruction of a nation and people. They were the ones who were “investing their emotions” in a foreign country—emotions of mass-murderous hatred.
So, American Guy proposes that Americans of all stripes should put America's interest first.
Jew #1 says, hey this guy is anti-semitic (for not putting Israel's interest first).
Jew #2 then jumps in and says, yes, Jew #1 is right and it shows quite obviously that the American Guy is a serial killer whose only goal in life is to enable a mass murder of every single Jew in the world.
And if the American Guy denies it, then he is even worse, he is a Denier.
lobro, I think that American Guy which you are referring to is either a complete idiot, or a crypto Jew. But thanks for pointing out the perverted Jewish mentality of psychological manipulation.
There were only ever two jews in that exchange.
Ken, now even I understand better that it was a masterpiece to provoke such a strange piece of logic on the other side! ...and it´s not easy to understand this!:
Someone who calls himself Ken Hoop sent to American Renaissance editor Jared Taylor the following e-mail with a copy to me.
“putting America first”
...the haters reply that they’re being unfairly attacked for merely “putting America first.” Which means that the people who are shocked at the haters’ behavior are not putting America first. To object to the primitive bigotry of the Israel haters, is to be less than a loyal American. Which further means that what defines people as loyal Americans, including the 14 percent of American Jews whom Hoop says could be included in AR conferences, is that they would have no problem with primitive bigots cheering for the death of Israel. See? Hoop isn’t an anti-Semite! He reaches out a hand of friendship to Jews, on the condition that they go along with him on the destruction of the Jewish state.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/arch...ves/
005582.html
I find it striking that the blogster concerned (following the trackback) turns up here and issues a typical convoluted set of freudian insults directly at k hoop, ignoring the fact that it is the rest of us who routinely call for the extirpation of the jewish ideology and so forth.
See, his brief says, attack hoop ignore all others. they're robots.
I find it striking that the blogster concerned (following the trackback) turns up here and issues a typical convoluted set of freudian insults directly at k hoop, ignoring the fact that it is the rest of us who routinely call for the extirpation of the jewish ideology and so forth.
See, his brief says, attack hoop ignore all others. they're robots.
Rowan Berkeley | 05.23.07 - 1:24 am |
Is Hoop a Jew? Are you?
My thinking too.
Like hyenas isolating a straggler among zebras for a kill.
Or even the other way around: identify, hound and eliminate the more moderate sounding among us so that in the end they can point to the rest as a pack of idiots howling at the moon.
They also suffer from naive ontic delusions such as that 'people are jews' or not, as the case may be.
Salman, don't do them service, unless they offer to pay you.
And then refuse.
Here's a "useful idiot" defending Hamas:
http://
palestinianpundit.blogspo...alestinian.html
If we gentiles are truly the cattle we are supposed to be, why then the degree of heated vituperation poured on us?
When cows misbehave, farmer laughs.
All the nasty invective may be nothing more than cowboy hollering and waving his hat to get us back on track and has no real emotional content other than contempt.
Except that most of us are well and truly beyond salvage, except maybe for Ken Hoop.
They also suffer from naive ontic delusions such as that 'people are jews' or not, as the case may be.
Rowan Berkeley | 05.23.07 - 7:26 am
As the Three Stooges (relax Ken, they were Episcopalians) said:
Why soitenly!
If any jewish israelis have followed me here from the peacepalestine blog, let me just get it on record that I am now bored with the records of Rami Fortis, owing to his constant ripping off of Elvis Costello.
time to switch to Wagner, his music is played at frequencies that drive them nuts
....Bravo Ken, it´s just natural that folks have some sympathy to their famiy, community and country. Even as an individualist and outsider one feels at times a band joining humans that cannot be destroyed by bolshewik, stalinist and global business ideologies. Look at Russia maybe good.
Supporting the discussion (above) even there is a report to the general staff of the Bavarian Army from 1919, (to be posted perhaps sometimes later), that investigates the same tendencies of decay, that can be observed today. War is rooting up, dispersing but no ideologistst should use such situations to profit on. They´re named ´war-profiteers` no matter what ethnic or gang they belong to.
Ken Hoop. Well done! You letter to Taylor was perfect. The reason I don't support American Renaissance is because they complain about Black behavior and let Jewish behavior slide. American Blacks are far better patriots then American Jews. Look at the percentages that have fought for us. Jews are cowards, Blacks aren't.
As the Three Stooges (relax Ken, they were Episcopalians) said: Why soitenly! Mortimer Glasspfurz | O5.23.07 - 7:43 am
-- magick means never having to say you're jewish.
Ken Hoop, pardon me if my comments appear to be ad hominem attacks, this is not my intention.
Having said that, I could not help feeling that your letter to Lawrence Auster was like watching Vladimir Zhirinowsky in a performance as a lead singer in a castrati choir.
You stated the obvious and gave Auster the golden chance to play on the widespread fear of being called an anti-semite. If the obvious facts can be associated with in the public mind with fear of "anti-semitism", as Zionists like Auster deliberately attempt, then the natural reaction is to avoid the facts.
The whole point is of course to reinforce the illusion of debate, to silence genuine dissent and to enforce the US state-religion of pro-Israel bias.
I don't know what your agenda is, but you alleged attempt not to alienate the middle political ground with your mild musings has the effect of a gag in people who otherwise might dare to state the facts without having first to ritually genuflect at Israel altar.
Mind you, this bad cop good cop routine cannot go on forever, and even the "anti-semite" Zhirinovsky was at one point exposed as a jewish political clown. Btw, Ronald Macdonald's real name is Vladimir Isaakovich Eidelshtein.
Ron MacDonald's dwellings:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/NbtNMBBv.jpg
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Xenophile | 05.23.07 - 11:35 am - It didn't shut me down X. Even if Hoop (Americans don't mind being called by their last names...sometimes it's even taken as endearing) is a Jew, let them argue. Also the middle ground needs to be represented as well as the extremes so it's good to hear from Hoop. On the other hand you could be right.
Ronald Macdonald's real name is Vladimir Isaakovich Eidelshtein
No joke, Xeno?
Now here is a likely irrelevant but perplexing question:
If they have such a low opinion of us, why do they love stealing our names - know of a single Macdonald who changed his name to Eidelshtein?
So they will sound Irish, lobro, Everybody knows they don't have any ulterior motives.
Personally though, I prefer my burgers with pickles, so I would never tell them to hold the kosher. It's that gunky American Cheese that I don't like.
Their entire culture is a giant identity laundering operation.
I wonder if I changed my name to Doublecryptenstein ... would Borat approve?
" Ken promoting leftist jewish propaganda - "LIHOP" style is downright offensive and just plain stupid"
David Duke promotes "leftist jewish propaganda?"
There is no political graph which outlines "conservative....kook...moderate....liberal."
Xenophile
And the real "facts" pertinent to taking a
politically effective stance on issues surrounding the Auster/Duke/
AR controversy are...?
Me
If you are familiar with American Renaissance and have a differing view
of the issues involved, why not simply state it?
lobro, maybe I should receive payments fist, and then backstab them - play using their tactics, without doing them service.
It's that gunky American Cheese that I don't like.
That's a pretty broad category, Juan.
Many things fall into the American Cheese class; suburbia, strip malls, bowling, Nascar, highways, billboards, NRA, huntin+fishin, Holocaust, ... most of them quite gunky.
But I will defend your right to dislike them all.
Me
I just noticed your earlier more explicit remark. It appears that Taylor has now lost most or all Jews to whom Israel has any politically viable meaning. They appear to have used the Duke issue to excuse their already extant discomfort with Taylor's past sporadic criticism of
American pro-Israel foreign policy.
This should free him to have a--more occasional-- speaker and writer on the subject. Until and unless America has a multi-party system and at least one alternative party capable of rocking the Imperialist Plutocracy boat, I don't and won't get too excited about positions taken
by groups like AR. As I told one
siteowner of a hard line anti-immigration but "hawkish" board
recently, if "conservative" Boobus Americanus wishes
to continue to fight Israel's wars for the Mideast it deserves to and will lose...the Southwest.
Ken, parsing your letter to Auster, you seem to see yourself as representing the supposed 14% of american jews who, according to your statistics, a) do not invest so much emotion in a foreign country, b) abhor the Lobby's harmful 5th colunnists, c) are America-firsters.
The very unclear and tortured structure of your sentences shows what you are afraid to admit: that according to your own statistics, 86% of the jews either have a double loyalty towards Israel, or no loyalty at all towards their country of birth, in this case the US.
This is the old disinfo tactic of speaking well while speaking ill. You are hard and loud on the husband for beating his wife, while deliberately omitting that he is a mass-murderer.
If you were to call a spade a spade, you would be talking about double-loyalty and potential treason in favor of a foreign country among 86% of the American jews. Again, I am quoting your "fact" and "statistics"; I'm just leaving the spin out.
Rowan
I guess the Palestinian Pundit is "latitudinarian?" Seems to me I read an anti-Hamas, pro-Fatah post a few days ago on it, claiming that Fatah was the real anti-American deal
and Hamas was the imposter.
Xenophile
What I "represent" is political realism.
I have used the term "dual loyalist"
prolifically in the past.
What in overdissecting
syntax in your search for misdirection and duplicity is perhaps
a weariness, disenchantment and
unfamiliarity with any actual involvement in the tedious task of organizing a political force/party
in America, Europe, anywhere in the
world. You did previously express
no attachment or enthusiasm for any such movement contemporarily did you not? If not true, please refer me to
the party or movement in Europe, Russia, America, the Mideast which is
using correct syntax to acheive their and your goals.
Little Salman, using a pseudonym also
has promoted not one political party
or movement in Canada, America, Europe or the Mideast--or his native Bangla Desh, as far as I can tell.
Yet he bravely calls for "mass deportation" of whomever he defines as "Jews." Who will do this, coward?
Since you are so uniquely adept at defining "Jew" and at sorting out the
phonies eg David Irving,perhaps you should "come out" and start organizing.
yea, David Duke promotes such crap, and I don't like him either
As for Ken, he wants me to operate within the "mainstream" political process either in the West/Mideast, and/or Bangladesh. And if I do come out asking for the deportation of the Jews, will you help me? Or will you behave like a bitch and talk shit as usual?
Of course I wouldn't help you and no one else would either. Everyone would be checking back five or six generations to make sure their ancestor's names weren't in a Jewish name book, so as to meet your definition of Jew.
By the way,Sallie,the choice is between operating in "mainstream" politics even for "radical" parties and groups or going paramilitary. You don't strike me
as the paramilitary type.
This was a remarkable logic:
Lawrence Auster (link above) is defaming Ken Hoop who has proposed to Jared Taylor:
"You should draw your Jewish participation, which seems essential to you, from the 14% minority who express no loyalty to or concern for a foreign nation whose Lobby 5th column in America has caused the U.S. so much worldwide harm."
as a compromise with "anti-semites", who were more angry about Israel and allegedly applauded to its soon end, and says:
Asking American Jews to put AMERICA FIRST in an organization purporting to point to a reinvigoration for our Culture should be no big deal.
Isnt this a matter of course? Not for Mr.L.Auster, who now turns it around upside down and claims this lie:
See? Hoop isn’t an anti-Semite! He reaches out a hand of friendship to Jews, on the condition that they go along with him on the destruction of the Jewish state.
So, this Mr.L.Auster, kooks about: the legitimate conference for "reinvigoration for our Culture" a dirty dish: "for the death of Israel".. and further hysteric insults. Is it because this state is illegal by international and UN law, is mere ideology, or because Mr. Hoop dares to propose who should participate and without asking this lttle tyrant Mr.Auster??
The really scary part, Fritz is that 86% are in total agreement with Auster.
lobro | 05.23.07 - 3:46 pm - NRA????
lobro my good man, I'm a card carrying member and defender of the second amndment, the right “to own and bear arms". Now I just have to buy a gun.
That's a pretty broad category, Juan.
Many things fall into the American Cheese class; suburbia, strip malls, bowling, Nascar, highways, billboards, NRA, huntin+fishin, Holocaust, ... most of them quite gunky.
Yes, I know, but I'm speaking quite literally, of that gooey yellow jism McDonalds puts between the two buns with the augmented beef (and the kosher pickels). I have no use for that.
Well, they never did achieve international acclaim for culinary talent.
In my grade school I had a jewish friend (and no clue what that entailed) who would occasionally have me over for dinner.
I am still bellyaching about pickled fish and boiled this and that. They were quite nice to me though.
And then, while in high school, they bragged how their working class area (Davisville) collected .... drumroll ...
Six-million bucks in one week for the six-day war of '67. Looks like Aba Eban or Moshe Dayan or some other Izzy bagman did the round of local synagogues.
And the yellow cheese of David was flowing liberally.
are you telling me that damn stuff isn't really American after all? That's good to know.
Also, Lawrence Auster is saying, if the whole world is a McDonnald´s, than Israel is the artificial, tasteless soft yellow cheese.
Pigs eat whatever swill farmer feeds them.
Unfortunately true in so many ways ...
Last time I ate at Macdonald's was maybe around 1988 when my kid terrorized me into driving him there (all he really wanted was plastic toys and the playground).
It was located right next to a Jewish cemetery ... hmm.
Not that I want to know what Edward G. Robinson tastes like ...
Maybe this was a delusion with the Mcdonalds cheese, L.Auster could have said, that Israel is the artificial flavor Mcdonalds is using in their attractive garbage-burgers
The first time I ate jewish food it made me really ill.
Also, the second time (when my ex hebrew teacher took me to a really horrible jewish restaurant two weeks ago).
if anybody ever offers you "naknik", dont eat it. It's their sausage.
Hell is not a city much like London. It's a jewish restaurant.
Me again
Rowan - still looking for a blogname?
'Naknik' might be a starter.
yea Ken, I suppose I gotta turn paramilitary then.
Don't go back Rowan, you might start developing a taste for it. If they can win you over the rest of the world is totally screwed.
That's very nice of you to say, Juan. But, you know, a lot of this is just 'future shock'.
Just say Nix to Naknik
If you listened to the various songs that the band known as Teapacks came up with for the Eurovision contest, you will have heard one called "salaam salami" in which kobi oz does a comical routine about the supposed 'salami-slicing' policies of the arabs (i think).
anyway, it starts with him ordering a sausage sandwich ('naqniq').
Ho-ho-ho, the old Marx Bros Do A Number On Palestinians routine.
What a knee-slapper!
And meanwhile the Euros are politely clapping, right?
Chest shaving metrosexuals at best ... I better check out the immigration policies of Mauritania.
but that song was not the one the jewish israeli public chose for the eventual eurovision entry - instead, they chose one about evil dictators with nuclear weapons, called "push the button".
Brought to you by Mossad Productions ... anyway, they are now part of Europe, that's what counts, we made the dessert bloom, then we shifted the country out of Asia Minor into Europe
...
first we parted the waters
...
but we paid a heavy price, six million of our best.
To the tune of "push the tempo", I suppose.
Lobro, your remark about "making the dessert bloom" is all too appropriate to jewish cuisine.
Push The Button
The world is full of terror
If someone makes an error
He's gonna blow us up to biddy biddy kingdom come
There are some crazy rulers
They hide and try to fool us
With demonic, technologic willingness to harm.
They're gonna push the button
push the button push the bu/ push the bu, push the button...
Il y a plein de souffrance
Dans les rues il y a trop de violence
Et on a beaucoup de chance d’etre vivant meme pas blessé
Avancement tactique de regime fanatique
Situation tragique qui me met les larmes aux yeux
And I don't want to die
I want to see the flowers bloom
Don't wanna go capoot ka boom.
And I don't want to cry
I wanna have a lot of fun
Just sitting in the sun...
But nevertheless
He's gonna push the button
Push the button push the bu/ push the bu/ push the button...
Damn ... both smell of camel dung, I suppose.
No thanks to kosher baklava.
Push The Button
Messages blow up all around me
Missiles fly around and fall on top of me
Cops and robbers run all over me
Stompin' down on me, messin' around with me
Alelai, Alelai, are you there, God, it's me?
This nightmare’s going on just way too long for me
When I'm barely alive, the target’s aimed at me,
Might be too early to say
"I Gave My Life for Thee"
Why, why, police patrol
Wow, wow, paramedical
Here it is in the prelims, a song with no "salam"
Red's not just any color, it’s more like blood
Again I stop the breathing in my heart
So my inner soul won't bust out
Here it's a war, here it's CPR
Boom, boom, that’s what goes on here
Between a rocket and machete,
Writer and viewer
Leverage and hostage,
Heat wave wet weather
Escalating up the stairs, locate on the border
Nothin', nothin', that's what everybody's doin'
Radicals radicalize, officers officiate
Nai"ve people moderate, statistics they await
They retaliate: We're all resigned to fate
In a world crammed full of demons,
We're nothing but miniscule peons
And champions with Jetons
Decide what the deal will be
Lazy managers give orders,
Ocean liner filled with water
And everyone drinks up to life while
Sinking underneath the sea
Could be.. far too risky..
I should sing a song of palm trees,
And a desert void of flags
Still, I'm.. alive, alive, alive..
And if it keeps on being so scary
It's only then that I will say..
I'm gonna push the button
Push the button push the bu/ push the bu/ Push the button
Basically, they are threatening Europe through song and dance, we are all in the same (EU) boat, but we can flood the bilge anytime we choose.
On balance, I preferred "La, La, La", "Ding-A-Dong" and "Diggi-Loo Diggi-Ley".
that last part is translated from hebrew by some lyrics fan.
"Diggi diggi lo, diggi diggie li"
is American Cajun & was popularized by Louisian Cajun fiddler Doug Kershaw.
Please don't go to any 17th century Jew name books at this point, Salman
and attempt wrest Cajun culture away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dou...ki/
Doug_Kershaw
I saw Kershaw at the now extinct Mariposa festival. An expert hand with a fiddle, almost like Isaac Stern.
Got to give it to Lobro-his understated humor is on the opposite pole as the prototype...Don Rickles
mode.
While casting about for the new World Bank Top Jew:
Among possible candidates named in the survey and which were sourced from media reports, former U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and Israeli central bank governor Stanley Fischer scored highest for banking and finance experience.
Duh!
Among other names proposed by participants were former Nigerian finance minister Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala
Honesty and integrity is his long suit, comparatively speaking ... I have a letter in my inbox somewhere to that end, not to mention a sheaf of complimentary pencils ...
Oh hey, I think I have one of those letters too, but I had no idea he was jewish, the name doesn't give it away.
Maybe it was Okon-jiew Ala. ?
"Juan" who predicts a sea level rise which should cover Palestine, doesn't seem to understand, that in order to create such a huge rise in sea level (400 m +), the whole Antarctica + Greenland ice would have to melt four to five times. He also doesn't seem to realize, that sea water is salty, and thus can't be used for growing vegetables etc.
But of course, it's obvious, that people reading these comments are very far from understanding anything of reality. They seem to prefer occult nonsense like that from
"Fritz" (Thyssen?) They are a bunch of idiots.
I love Ye Xuan.I hope everyone like her
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