Zymph, my congrats. Hitting the nail on the head is an event rarer than most of us like to admit.
"...Based on an analysis of real power, 'mainstream' Steyn, not a handful of utterly powerless neo-Nazis, is the guy who should be sanctioned."
And where your kind of thinking is leading is most salutory, too.
As a card-carrying blue collar American with over 40 years in the workforce, in steel, I've seen and noted with alarm the amount of hate by those in power directed at the most powerless members of the US economy.
This issue runs no gamut. From the callous indifference of the effects industrial downsizing has on workers and communities to the complete absence of coherent discussion of the subject, the whole MSM is locked. Usually pretty silent. Except for when Rush Limbaugh, after his briefing from Alan Greenspan, declared he wanted to see "all the stupid people's jobs go down to Mexico."
Why wasn't THAT a hate crime? And so many more like it over the years should have put half our elites in jail, if "acting on hate" was really a crime to their crummy little sensibilities.
And why aren't the victims of this crap sending it back the other way?
Some of us have been called "bigots" and "racist" for pointing the out obvious fact that rich Israelis have been subsidized by poor Americans from the beginning. We're way past being polite about it.
Powerful accusers need to know what that feels like when that crap goes in the right direction. It's starting to go that way now. The real "bigots" and "haters" are being smoked out at long bloody last and I enjoy watching them squirm.
Bankrolling the Levant is going to cost more than Social Security, I think. More than the moonshot. More than World Wars I and II. Hate crime? The fact that poor Americans are still mostly peaceful is amazing.
As it gets uglier, it's good we're finally getting the story straight. Getting the story straight now will help us all think straight in the tricky days that are coming.
Selon que vous serez puissant ou mise'rable
Les jugements de cour vous feront blanc ou noir.
Yes indeed - very good post, Xmph..
Good posting, true. But Steyn and his ilk are untouchable in ZioCanada in precisely the same way that Goebbels and Streicher were untouchable in Nazi Germany.
There's no bringing these scumbags to book, if only for this reason: they provide the black propaganda the Zionazi Canadian establishment need to hear.
Islamophobia is the new anti-Semitism, and it is alive and well in Canada.
By Henry Makow Ph.D. – April 5, 2008
"Last week, Canadians reasserted their collective death-wish by castigating a Member of Parliament for an anti-gay statement he made 17-years ago when he was a minor political hack in Saskatchewan."
Canada: the New Zion.
Toronto: the New Sodom (or Tel Aviv).
James Petras on State hate speech, specifically the 'liquid bombs plot' announced on 12 Aug 2006 by the UK Gov. The timing beautifully matched the end of the very hateful attack on Lebanon by the zionist state.
Flashback: The Liquid Bomb Hoax: The Larger Implications
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/160959
What happened to Ernst Zundel et al. resulting from these 'hate speech' tribunals.
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/
c...lblock_dees.jpg
rense.com
Zionism A Lethal Virus
In Western Politics
Political Poison
By Eric Walberg
Al-Ahram Weekly
4-5-8
"The Canadian political scene has been transformed in the past year, and not for the better. The 2,500 Canadian troops in the dangerous southern Kandahar region of Afghanistan had their mission extended to 2011 on 13 March in what was billed as a fateful parliamentary vote, as the pro-war Conservatives have only a minority government and the war is deeply unpopular among Canadians. In a recent poll, only 15 per cent favoured extending the troop presence to 2011, with 60 per cent in favour of bringing the troops home now.
"All this is in fact an eerie replay of John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt's argument about the Israeli lobby in the US, whose "core" is "American Jews who make a significant effort in their daily lives to bend US policy so that it furthers Israel's interests.
"Its Canadian counterpart, led by the CJC and Bnai Brith, through extensive media control and privileged access to the highest levels of government, has poisoned the Canadian political scene, paralysing the anti-war majority and choking all debate, pushing the Liberals into the Conservatives' arms on the one issue that could win them the next election.
"Canada's continued agony in Afghanistan is vital to the Israeli lobby; after all, a rejection of the Canadian role in the genocide in Afghanistan is a step down the slippery slope of a rejection of blind support for Israel's genocide in Palestine."
Canada, to an even greater extent than the United States, is now absolutely under the jackboot of the Zionazi state of Israel and its agents who have wiggled their way into every niche and corner of North American life.
I wish to make it clear that I am 100 per cent for the Canadian people whose democratic rights are now being trampled upon by their own corrupt government — a government in complete hock to depraved Jewish interests.
I have been away from the internet for a few weeks, and I note that a new "Kassandra" has appeared on the block. I've been posting here as "Kassandra" for about two years, and this new "Kassandra" is not me. I post from Estonia. Where does this Kassandra post from?
I shall rename myself as "Kassandra Sr."
To Kassandra Snr. from Kassandra No More:
Sincere apologies, Kassandra.
I am new to this website and had no idea I was cutting in on your name. In order to make it easier for you to resume your customary name of Kassandra — without the need for any tedious addition — I promise to change my name to something else, leaving you in full possession of your former name.
Best wishes.
Kassandra No More. The more the merrier! This'll teach me to go away for a while. Nor did I disagree with any of your comments.
That's a relief! But honestly, do resume your former name in its prophetic splendor. No need for the "Sr" — unless you insist on it.
Lalara, you sound like a real princess! How nice of you to surrender your chosen name back to it former owner so graciously! And Kassandra too, how civilized and generous she sounds!
How come I don't meet any such nice ladies in real life? Sigh, sigh. Ladies, write more, and may your sheer lovingkindness enlarge our lives and sanctify our brutish souls.
All quiet on the Western Front. Ho, hum, where are all the usual gang? Why the deafening silence?
Berkeley, come back! All is forgiven!
wow, you make a very important and valid point, what an astute post.
Islamaphobia is definitely the new anti-semetism, and in Canada it flourishes in any number of places, sanctioned by the 'state' of course.
Aided by mainstream media.
But then it works the same , in any country, under any leader????
Have you seen this news story?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/
2008...cismislamgraves
excellent blog btw!
It happens that we are reading the only intelligent, original, necessary and beautifully written book in the English language on the phenomenon of workplace shootings, Mark Ames' Going Postal. He relates modern workplace planning to American slavery and makes much of the deep, easy to provoke, hysterical hatred of the powerless by th powerful. Of course the basis of this hate is the conspiracy, the totally uneven power relationship, which would be threatened by a number of relative accessible and otherwise innocuous actions on the part of the powerless (such as education).
Ames by the way pursues the hypothesis that there is nothing really wrong with the workplace shooter and justifies this with spades and spades of evidence to include instances where the victims were nearly grateful, saying repeatedly in only slightly different phrasing, "if only he'd got the right targets" meaning asshole managers pushed to a new slavery by Jack Welch and Ronald Reagan. This is great in and of itself as a tonic to an otherwqise textbook mainstream media hypnotic meme, that there are crazy people among us and gosh darn it sometimes the crazies go crazy so let's not criticize our glorious police forces for protecting us from the totally unprovoked crazies. It also has certain parallels to Gaza and Ukraine ("What could possibly provoke this?" "Dunno, guy musta been crazy, oh and seeking another explanation makes you crazy"). But it gets very close to this glorious post in discussing the attitudes of the slavemasters to revolts in the past. Now we have the whole pathology of a revolution laid bare from every perspective, but in the time of John Brown or Nat Turner "normal" people were so shocked by the idea that social injustice could justify violence in anyone's mind that they never made a connection between slavery and the violence; they always carefully explained it as madness.
God damn it, why can't Rowan enjoy the occasional anti-Semitism as a cheaper, more realistic Borat?
5 US troops killed, dozens injured in increasingly successful Green Zone attacks today.
On the subject of Lessons in Power, this article is worth reading if only because it's a more realistic perspective on Iraq than we're going to hear from Gen Petraeus when he delivers his forthcoming bull-fest to the American people.
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/
...al_and_the_trap
One question Petraeus will NOT be asked is whether he recommends sending an additional 500,000 troops in order to improve the capability and security of US troops. The current deployment makes it IMPOSSIBLE to conduct the type of 'clear and hold' operation which Petraeus and the Bush regime are fond of blathering about.
A tripling of the number of troops would help reduce the currently under-manned contingent's overwhelming focus on fear and self-preservation which inevitably leads to panic-stricken, and/or frustration-driven retributive, slaughter of unarmed Iraqis on a daily basis.
The fact is that such a small contingent is incapable of doing significantly more than defending its citadels from the natives and is pretty good proof that the current strategy is designed, primarily, to produce a genocidal result. On that score, the record speaks for itself.
It is now clear that Iraqis do not have access to the income from sales of their oil and Money, and a Yankee exit, are what Iraq and Iraqis urgently need. It's a foregone conclusion that Petraeus, aided and abetted by Bush and lying or incredibly stupid Congress Members will attempt to blame Iraqis for their current plight.
Until Bush announces what America is going to do to help restore Iraq, it may be safely assumed that the original agenda of theft, lying and genocide will continue to be pursued.
Only a cretin would believe that US troops must stay in Iraq to kill the Iraqis resisting Bush's blatantly murderous occupation.
"Islamophobia" is a stupid neologism that does not deserve houseroom in an intelligent person's lexicon. I believe that Islam is boring, stupid and hate prone. It was established by a vicious conqueror and has ever since been wedded to violence. In any case, I belive that Christianity is the only true religion and that Islam must therefore be an incorect set of beliefs. If you think I am wrong, then let us leave God to sort it out in the next life, rather than some ill-educated fascists who would kill people for publishing cartoons.
Crticism of any religion is perfectly reasonable and has been going on in the West since time immemorial. There is no racialism involved with the criticism of the Muslim religion, for Muslims are members of many races. So anti-islamic speech is not racialist, but culturalist. Nobody can possibly object against criticisms of a cultural kind, as a person's culture, unlike his race can be changed. And if people can change their ways, it means that any criticism of those ways is fair discourse that must rebutted by argument, not by violence or censorship, which seems to be the Islamic way of doing things.
Criticism of a religion is not the expression of hate, but an attempt to apply human logic
Jewish people are all members of one race, so anti-semitism, is indeed racialism as well as culturalism. That is why Anti-Semitism (which is most virulently practised by Western leftists and Muslims) is completely different to "Islamophobia." Where as we who disdain Islam do so on reasonable grounds that it tenets are uncivilised and lead to brutality, Anti-Semites are more interested in the causing the people to suffer. Hence, the oft expressed Arab wish for Israel, and presumably all of its people, to cease to exist.
So whilst those who are anti-Islam are attacking ideas, those who are anti-Semitic are hating people. Any attempt to equate "islamophobia" and anti-Semitism is therefore invidious.
Islamo delenda est!
Anti-German hate-propaganda since Worldwar 1 until today, that has been poured over all English minds. Here the history of it:
Dealing in Hate
The Development of Anti-German Propaganda
Dr. Michael F. Connors
http://www.ihr.org/books/
connors...inginhate.shtml
Comix, anti German hate for children, http://www.freedomsite.org/pics/...nti-
german.html
that was what made Ernst Zundel angry and aware of this hypocrisy, that today is leading "human rights councils" 3videos
in 3video (link embedded)
Hey, Peter The Lawyer, excuse me while I barf ... wualghh!
Can't think of a more appropriate answer anyway ... right you are guv'nor.
Peter The Lawyer would even by reverend haggee regarded as the sulfuric advocate.
Peter the Lawyer | 04.06.08 - 11:44 pm
"In any case, I belive that Christianity is the only true religion and that Islam must therefore be an incorect set of beliefs."
Therefore?
Says who?
Where's the evidence that 'different' may safely be assumed to denote inferiority, and unambiguously identify and distinguish the inferior from the superior?
"If you think I am wrong, then let us leave God to sort it out in the next life, rather than some ill-educated fascists who would kill people for publishing cartoons."
...or asking too many questions about the Holocaust?
"Crticism of any religion is perfectly reasonable and has been going on in the West since time immemorial".
One can only assume that you lack the courage and wit to admit that Holocaustism is the religion of Zionists. It is quite untrue to claim that this particular religion welcomes or even tolerates criticism, let alone investigation whether with positive or negative intent.
"There is no racialism involved with the criticism of the Muslim religion, for Muslims are members of many races".
Go to Palestine and Iraq and tell that to the Palestinians and the Iraqis.
"Criticism of a religion is not the expression of hate, but an attempt to apply human logic".
Shouldn't that read 'an attempt to apply Zionist logic'?
"So anti-islamic speech is not racialist, but culturalist. Nobody can possibly object against criticisms of a cultural kind, as a person's culture, unlike his race can be changed".
... and yet, in some exquisitely mysterious and convenient way, quite dissimilar to anti-jewish speech? How does that work?
"Jewish people are all members of one race, so anti-semitism, is indeed racialism as well as culturalism".
Oh dear, Peter. This is an extraordinarily cowardly and untruthful claim for a Zionist to make. Are you saying that every Jew is an insanely genocidal Zionist? Why do Zionists lack the courage to stand apart from non and anti-Zionist Jews and declare themselves to be openly hostile to the concepts of civilized co-existence and buying what they covet instead of lying, killing and stealing to obtain it more 'cheaply'?
"So whilst those (Zionists) who are anti-Islam are attacking ideas, those who are anti-Semitic are hating people. Any attempt to equate "islamophobia" and anti-Semitism is therefore invidious".
But only according to the preferentially skewed logic of Zionism, Peter.
While everyone's arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, the fact remains that freedom to express opinions, even hateful ones, should not be officially proscribed. The very hypocracy Xymph exposes is the inevitable end result. Did anybody else see the feature on artist/illustrator Art Spiegelman (Maus) on Sunday Night? He describes my feelings perfectly:
http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/2008/04...4/
040608_1.html
Hoarse, don't waste your breath on this Ziotrash. I repeat with emphasis: ISLAMOPHOBIA IS THE NEW ANTI-SEMITISM!!!
My concern is that Xymph, who is very likely correct in his analysis as to why the CHRC is currently so beleaguered, seems to imply that because of the undoubted hypocracy of some of the players in challenging the role of the CHRC, implies, whether intentionally or not, that the CHRC is a force for social good and should be retained. I HOPE that's not what he believes!!! Perhaps a clarification is in order.
The CHRC is simply a front for the Canadian Zionazis.
Lalara Pandora (recently the faux "Kassandra").
Alas! I've just re-read Xymph's screed, and I now see that he thinks that Mark Steyn, "is a real hatemonger, just the target of appropriate legal sanctions on hate speech." No, no, NO!!! The freedom to state an opinion should NEVER be proscribed!!! The solution to hate speech is to rebut, ridicule, etc. etc., but NEVER insist that the heavy hand of the state muzzle ideas held to be distasteful by the state. You see, Xymph, it all depends on whose ox is being gored. Many people, including the German state, believe that Ernst Zundel "is a real hatemonger, just the target of appropriate legal sanctions." The only way to decide these matters is by debate, but how can one debate for or against an Ernst Zundel or a Mark Steyn if one risks being found guilty of "hate speech"?
"The CHRC is simply a front for the Canadian Zionazis."
Absolutely! You've hit the nail on the head, Lalara Pandora!
It's because the CHRC practise the most disgraceful double standards. Total freedom for Canadian Zionazis (such as Mark Steyn) to spatter all Muslims with their poisonous hate speech, while criminalizing the slightest mention of the terrorist state of Israel.
Look under the floorboards of the CHRC and what do you find? A bunch of kippa-wearing Jewish supremacists!
Yes, indeed the Zionists were the prime movers for the CHRC (though gays were also active in its formation). Though the fact should be noted, it's irrelevant as far as whether it should exist. For instance, I'm definitely anti-Zionist, but believe in gay rights. Nevertheless, if the CHRC were solely the creation of gay rights organizations, I wouldn't oppose it any less. The concept of gagging one's right to speak one's mind, even for some perceived "public good" is wrong, period.
Seabow, good point. But there must be a limit to free speech. There's one thing you CANNOT allow, and that is for someone to be free to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater. Zundel never went that far. Critiquing the Holocaust is NOT equivalent to shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater. It should be permitted, if only for the reason that what Zundel and his congeners allege could conceivably be true!
It all boils down to double standards, as Occam has just pointed out. What is sauce for the goose must be sauce for the gander. If the Jew feels free to deny the very existence of Jesus Christ, there is no logical reason why the Christian should not be equally free to deny the existence of the Holocaust. If the Jew is free to offend the Christian, the Christian must be equally free to offend the Jew.
The fact is, of course, no bona fide revisionists actually question the Holocaust; they just query the kosher SPIN on the Holocaust.
The CHRC simply need to be exposed for what they are: a bunch of Zionazis beating the drum for Jewish supremacism — while pretending to be deeply concerned for "human rights".
LP, Sorry, but I don't quite agree with what you're saying. Perhaps you haven't considered a possible corollary of your statements: If the Jew is NOT free to offend the Christian, then the Christian must equally NOT be free to offend the Jew. The statement's problematical even if you didn't mean "only if". Why use the conditional "if" at all? Why not just state clearly and unequivocally that we must all be free to speak our mind, even if it's offensive? It's all-encompassing, and doesn't have little traps and implications. And of course it's in direct opposition to the Zionist belief that they should be free to offend while not being offended themselves.
G'night, all.
Seabow, you are making needless difficulties! How come I agree with everything you say ABSOLUTELY while you, for some reason, disagree with me? That's just not logically possible!
Hey, what time d'you go to bed? It's 12.20 in the afternoon here! Just had my lunch.
Shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre is reckless endangerment of public safety.
Other retrictions on freedom of speech are perjury, incitement, libel & slander, and these have been well understood for ages together with their legal remedies.
There should be no restriction on the public discussion of contentious issues such as the historical facts of WWII and the implications of IQ and race.
As for the so-called 'holocaust' there is no consensus on what happened, and my personal view of the case is that it is grossly exaggerated for political and financial purposes. That is the reason why dissidents are jailed in what are mockingly called "free countries".
The CHRC simply need to be exposed for what they are: a bunch of Zionazis beating the drum for Jewish supremacism — while pretending to be deeply concerned for "human rights".
Lalara Pandora | 04.07.08 - 6:55 am | #
Quite right. A bit like the Southern Poverty Law Center. But with unsheathed talons and nicely sharpened incisor teeth.
"Seabow, you are making needless difficulties! How come I agree with everything you say ABSOLUTELY while you, for some reason, disagree with me? That's just not logically possible!"
- Lalara Pandora | 04.07.08 - 7:48 am
Welcome to this website, Lalara Pandora. I have enjoyed your apercus. However, as a trained logician, I must tell you that your remark (quoted above) contains a glaring logical fallacy.
"That's just not logically possible," you assert. I'm afraid it is perfectly possible for P to disagree with Q on a particular point, while, at the same time, Q agrees absolutely with everything P says.
A simple case.
Carol may be in total agreement with everything her husband David says, but David may choose to disagree with Jane that there are little green men playing skittles at the bottom of the garden.
Sorry, for "Jane" read "Carol".
Occam, you need to sharpen your razor!
Carol cannot agree with EVERYTHING David says if David says there are NO green men playing skittles at the bottom of the garden. She says they are. He says she is mistaken. So Carol and David may be in complete agreement on everything EXCEPT little green men.
So there, cleverclogs!
Lessons in Power
Chapter I
Lessons in Corruption & Conflict of Interest.
New study shows US lawmakers have as much as $196 million invested in defense companies
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/
2...Investments.php
This article helps to explain why Congress Critters have so much trouble understanding that mock wars which are good for Congress Critters are bad for Americans.
After all, when that dividend cheque arrives, and the Congressman's wife flits off to Tiffany's for a new tiara, one could hardly blame her for murmuring "Ah thank the prarce was wurrth it, Durlin - even if them in-grates in Mowtarn 'n' Flent, Michigan, don't agreee" as she basks in her reflected glory; and thinks of more pleasant things than other people's children coming home with missing limbs or in flag-draped wooden boxes in the dead of night.
"These darmonds are jest prarceless, Honey!"
As Justin Raimondo says, It should be illegal for congresscritters to have such a titanic collision of interest.
It goes without saying that people who invest heavily in war stocks have a vested interest in fomenting new wars and keeping old ones going.
Two questions that need answering:
1. Can an imminent and catastrophic Depression be headed off by starting a genocidal new war against a country with lots of oil, mullahs, mosques and — conveniently — within easy bombing distance of Iraq?
2. Is it possible to explain the present situation in simple terms of BLACKMAIL?
Meaning?
* If you DON'T bomb Iran, "We" shall reveal your sexual perversions, your Swiss bank accounts, and your illegal under-the-counter payments from AIPAC for services rendered to our cause over the years.
* If you DON'T bomb Iran, We shall unleash the mother of all Depressions on you, bringing Western civilization to its knees.
* Finally, if you DO bomb Iran according to Our instructions — and hand over their oil to Us — We shall make sure that there is NO DEPRESSION and that no one finds out about your sexual perversions, your Swiss bank accounts, and your payments from AIPAC.
Hmmm . . . can this be a possible scenario?
I think so for this reason: according to Occam's Razor, when there are a number of competing explanations for any phenomenon, the simplest explanation is the most likely one.
Xymphora, that is yet another example of state sanctioned incitement to violence.
I guess you can't have state sanctioned violence unless you whip 'em up.
Episodes like constant calls by Israel for Iran to be dealt with and the Hill and Knowlton baby story are the real hate crimes as they enlist our support for actions that we would never countenance in our own personal affairs.
http://tinyurl.com/6a6mtn
This industrial dehumanization of our brothers and sisters needs to be exposed.
Why have these sorts of lies propagated so easily for the last century?
This has happened in spite of greatly increased awareness amongst people.
I think it is a reflection of the lack of sanctity (sacredness) in the view we have of ourselves.
If we can't see it in ourselves it is unlikely we will appreciate the sanctity in others.
It is the psychopathic gift of modernism.
"Hmmm . . . can this be a possible scenario?
"I think so for this reason: according to Occam's Razor, when there are a number of competing explanations for any phenomenon, the simplest explanation is the most likely one."
Lalara Pandora | 04.07.08 - 10:38 am
Well said, LP. I see you know the meaning of my name. Brilliant.
Another question you need to ask is this: are the same people who invest heavily in war stocks likely to vary their portfolios by investing heavily in companies that manufacture wheelchairs, prosthetic limbs for war cripples, and drugs to help veterans suffering from respiratory diseases, chronic tinnitus, incipient blindness, and post traumatic stress disorder?
The link is from a book called
Defrauding America, Vol. Two
By Rodney Stich
It has plenty of examples of this sort of manipulation of opinion.
The Zionazis who, under the aegis of AIPAC, now control Congress, have no qualms whatever about sacrificing young American soldiers to a life of chronic disability and pain PROVIDED: (a) that the victim is black, Hispanic, or what the elite regard as "poor white trash"; and (b) that the victim is on no account to be Jewish — given that one Jew, according to a recent rabbinical dictat, is worth more than 1000 non-Jews.
So bring 'em home in boxes in the dead of night. No problem. If their brains have been blown away along with their body parts, deny them their state benefits and pensions too. Yep, get some nice Jewish doctor to sign a certificate saying they had a "personality disorder" before they were recruited.
Line up, suckers! We'll give you 50 grand if you consent to your own funeral or privileged status as a future amputee. Any takers?
Yea, but when you're standing in front of the knife thrower, is 'most likely' good enough?
moonkoon, pearls before swine and the attempt to make a silk purse from a sow's ear is also karma. Of a sort.
I just hope the Godsend entity didn't hear that.
Yea, but when you're standing in front of the knife thrower, is 'most likely' good enough?
hp | 04.07.08 - 12:40 pm | #
Huh? Meaning?
Huh? Meaning?
Anonymous | 04.07.08 - 1:06 pm | #
No need to explain! Hp don't cast pearls before swine, geddit?
Meaning there's always the exception to the rule.
islamphobia, i dont think is the new antisemitism.
antisemitism resulted from actions and words by jews.
islamphobia is a military, political tactic by jews and their loafer licks to benefit the ME's shitty one.
islamophobia and antisemitism are product of the same factory, different labels, that's all, just like cluster bombs and prosthetic limbs also come off the same assembly line.
Rabbis bless all the products with the same loving care.
lobro | 04.07.08 - 3:14 pm |
yes.
"Islamophobia is the new anti-Semitism" is a bon mot that I meant figuratively and metaphorically.
It is meant to imply (i) that the anti-Semitism that was so rife in Nazi Germany has now been replaced by a virulent Islamophobia that is every bit as reprehensible;
(ii) that the former victims of Nazi Germany anti-Semitism (ie, the Jews) are the chief instigators of the NEW anti-Semitism known as Islamophobia — the Arabs being a Semitic race like the Jews;
(iii) that Goebbels has been replaced by the Jewish-owned American mass media, and that the former NAZIS have metamorphosed — hey presto! — into the ZIONAZIS you now see at the helm of the American Ship of State.
Just a fancy name for good old fashioned eternal genetic fear. Boo!
No, Lalala, that equation is not equal, it originated rather from the same kitchen. Who made most of the anti-German war-propaganda in WW-1 in GB and (Balfour-declaration 1917) in the US, as then in WW-2: about 80% of Americans were against the idea of going to war. If the Zionists were responsible for this propaganda, then the Jews were victims of their propaganda machinations. Not to speak about Capital.
Investors in war companies no doubt are also heavily into pharmaceutical firms. Latest news is that three quarters of those who have had tours in Iraq and Afganistan have developed phsycological problems. Defense contractors and pharmaceutical firms have always made a profit. It's almost as if it were planned.
This Islamophobia/anti-semitism is something like the Stockholm Syndrome. The captive becomes like his captor -- it's operative for that "light onto the nations" bunch. They're out-nazing the nazis.
The High Court in the Netherlands declared the showing of Geert Wilder's film "Fitna" allowable, based on free speech. Wilder, who's rumored to be connected to the Mossad, and who has visited izzyland 40 times over the last 25 years, and has met with Rotting Hulk Sharon and Olmert. I am awaiting for a similar film from Holland dealing with the evil little greasy-haired Lubavichers -- let's see if it too will be given distribution rights based on free speech. Or does free speech come into play only when Islam and Muslims need to be demonized, and it morphes into "hate speech" when it's unfavorable to the izzies?
Lalara Pandora | 04.07.08 - 7:48 am:
"Hey, what time d'you go to bed? It's 12.20 in the afternoon here! Just had my lunch."
Then you must live near the east coast. I live on the west coast, where it was 4:20 a.m. I'm a night owl. Big country, eh?
BTW, I used to programme computers, and now see gaping logical traps where many others see none. Apologies.
Seabow: Don't apologize. Maybe I'm not very smart, but I am trying very hard to make sense of the world. And I have good intentions.
Btw, I live in England.
righteo | 04.07.08 - 7:53 am | #
"Shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre is reckless endangerment of public safety.
Other retrictions on freedom of speech are perjury, incitement, libel & slander, and these have been well understood for ages together with their legal remedies."
righteo, I said "freedom to express opinions", not freedom of speech.
I didn't say that one should be free to shout "fire" when none exists, or to lie under oath. Libel and slander are strictly civil matters which likewise involve contentions of lying. So there are restrictions on lying, as there should be, when the lies have negative consequences. But lying isn't an expression of opinion, is it?
You made a good point, though. Hope this clarifies my position.
Lalara Pandora | 04.07.08 - 5:46 pm | #
"Maybe I'm not very smart, but I am trying very hard to make sense of the world."
Obviously I didn't calculate the time zones properly, so who's the dumb one?
Like you, I'm trying to make sense of the world!
BTW, I'm a Londoner, born and bred, though I've lived on the west coast of Canada for most of my life. Cheers.
my advice:
stay out of theatre and don't worry about fire.
Putin Scores Diplomatic Victory by Blocking NATO's Expansion Plan
http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=113378
"It was a victory for those who didn't want destabilization in Europe, and it was a defeat for those outside of Europe who were seeking to destabilize it," Karaganov said."
not that this was too sure, but it makes an attack on Iran (a little)less probable.
The Attack Iran lobby are creating white noise to distract from other events.
Now that rowan's not here shouting "nazi" at everyone it's safe to post
A Jew defends Hitler - part 1 of 3 .
Righteo, You Tube says
"This video is not available in your country."
It truly sucks to live under North Korean censorship!! Hail Kim Jong Merkel!
Fritz, Take a good look at the closing statement of the Bucharest Conference. This is the document that matters. Your idea of informing yourself is reading unconnected bits and pieces, and never being able to connect all the dots to form a whole picture. Rowan is right about you.
Now that rowan's not here shouting "nazi" at everyone it's safe to post
A Jew defends Hitler - part 1 of 3 .
righteo | 04.08.08 - 4:22 am.
I'm not quite sure why Rowan went off in a huff. Will someone explain? This website does not in any way appear to be virulently anti-Semitic, reflecting as it does a wide range of views — most of them perfectly respectable.
It's an occasional thing. RB gets bored after a while and takes a holiday from xymphora. When he's refreshed he'll return.
Xeno, Third part is to be watched
Ernst Zundel interviews Prof. Roger Dommergue in France. (a jew defends Hitler). But he may be a bit wrong about Le Pen? and doesn't know all about atomic energy plans and research in that time.
part 3
sorry, should read "can be watched" - the Prof says it is wrong, that people were depressed by the evil dictatorship. But one can see on their faces enchantment and confidence.
Fritz | 04.07.08 - 11:53 pm
The Bucharest story is VERY amusing.
(Note that Putin organised it on the way to Bucharest and delivered it as a fait accompli)
Bush talks the talk.
Vlad walks the walk.
Now NATO is exposed as a gab-fest with about as much clout as the UN.
I'll bet Vlad only did it to make the Clown Prince of WMDs & ter'rism look even sillier than he did before (and because he could).
Putin is my kind of asshole - with a sense of humor to match.
Your kind of asshole, eh, Hoarse? Mine too. But I don't think I'd go so far as to use the word "asshole".
Sad to think that that there are now 5-10 million Americans and Western Europeans who would be backing the Russian Bear in any future conflict between our respective power blocs.
If Moscow went up in flames under American bombs, I would weep genuine tears of sorrow for the victims. If New York went up in flames under Russian bombs, my grief would be more circumspect.
Is that "hate speech"? I hope not.
I did, after all, say I would grieve. But my grief would be tempered by the strong conviction that America had it coming. That it was blowback time. That karma must takes its course, and that those who sow the wind must reap the whirlwind.
America and its brutish allies — Britain chief among them — are guilty of one million unnecessary deaths in Iraq, most of them women and children. These are war crimes which require more than mere impeachment. They require capital punishment for the ringleaders.
The mills of God grind slowly, but they grind exceeding small. Soon may it be. Let retribution come.
Who knows . . . maybe it will come through Putin.
Rowan must be reading the Vishnu Purana, again.
Carol cannot agree with EVERYTHING David says if David says there are NO green men playing skittles at the bottom of the garden. She says they are. He says she is mistaken. So Carol and David may be in complete agreement on everything EXCEPT little green men.
So there, cleverclogs!
Lalara Pandora | 04.07.08 - 8:50 am | #
But you may be making an implied distinction between what he thinks and what she says. Unless David actually says there are no green men, Carol can still believe everything he says, and he not believe everything she says.
Juan: "Unless David ACTUALLY SAYS there are no green men....." Read carefully again what I said above and you will see that David DID SAY there were no green men in the garden. "She [Carol] says they are [green men in the garden]. He [David] says SHE IS MISTAKEN". Ergo, David does assert that there are no green men in the garden. Q.E.D.
I do concede that you are a person of superior intelligence, but in this case you happen to be wrong. Bye for now!
. . maybe it will come through Putin.
Lalara Pandora | 04.08.08 - 11:06 am
Don't hold your breath. He's obviously decided to have a lot more fun at the big-mouthed Texan's expense. It'll be like Monty Python. Bush runs off at the mouth - Putin plans his next PR ambush.
('Asshole' was my guess at BushCo's name for Putin right now.)
Since the topic of Xym.'s post was Lessons in Power, David Irving has a hilarious item on the swastika that went up on Gordo's official website:
April 3 2008: Sometime before noon the webmaster at 10 Downing Street posted a new website with a logo featuring a clearly visible, correctly oriented NSDAP swastika.
At around 11pm, after mocking emails and with general hilarity spreading web-wide, the site became Password Restricted.
On April 4 the site was restored, but with a sanitised logo.
By that evening the site appeared to have incorporated most of the suggestions made on the Devil's Kitchen blog regarding its poor design.
"It is ridiculous to suggest that Gordon Brown is anything like Adolf Hitler" said one wag on ConservativeHome, "Hitler was elected."
Both Bush and Putin are history, except Putin could anoint his successor and have him blessed by the compliant Duma. Putin and his predecessors have hands that drip blood as much as Bush's. It's just that most Westerners make no effort to be informed about what goes on and has gone on in the Big Gulag. The Russians adventure into Afganistan started the unraveling of their empire. The British forays there helped that empire down a notch or two. Will it do the same to the American empire?
It is only the price of oil that has made Putin look good. Which goes to a very small group of people. The Russians are getting ready to sell off many of their military bases, to raise funds to build livable housing for the officers.
Russians are a strange people. They have always been easily manipulated. Somewhere on this blog someone mentioned that their Russian friends admire Putin because he took responsibility for the Kursk disaster. Let me remind you. Putin was on vacation when Kursk happened. He didn't even make a statement, never mind returning from vacation, until several days into the tragedy. The entire Kursk affair was mismanaged, and when the Norwegian team was finally called in, it became apparent that many of the young men trapped in the Kursk were alive for many hours after the explosion, and could have been rescued, had Putin and the Russian Navy acted responsibly and not spent their time looking for a mythical NATO submarine. And this unfortunate incident has now morphed into something heroic?
Have the Brits, as a whole, ever gotten over their conditioned hatred of the Germans?
I remember, as a school kid, forever being reminded how much the Brits hated the Germans.
Ken, you must be bored, without Rowan's repartee' to amuse you. I admit I miss it already. You two, that is.
Don't be obsequious. As long as his tolerance for Marxism outweighs his tolerance for nationalism, let him pout.
Obsequious? I was thinking maybe selfish.
kassandra | 04.08.08 - 2:40 pm
"Somewhere on this blog someone mentioned that their Russian friends admire Putin because he took responsibility for the Kursk disaster." etc etc
That should read "Somewhere on this blog someone mentioned that their Russian friend's family, friends and acquaintances LOVE Putin because he took responsibility for the Kursk disaster." (and economic circumstances have steadily improved on Putin's watch).
(As an aside, how many of the West's ordinary citizens feel secure about their economic future under the current corporate welfare regimes?)
It was my post and it was based on a real conversation almost as brief as the post itself. It is clearly (or merely) anecdotal. But it was hugely significant to me because here was a mature and intelligent Russian woman who was, after that particular visit, finally at peace 'knowing' that she no longer needs to fret about the well-being of those she left behind in Russia.
I don't disagree with the historical correctness of anything you've said but if her story is any guide then I think it would be true to say that a New Russia seems to be emerging, united behind Putin.
If you'd like to pose a few questions, Kassy, I'll pass them on and relay her answers. I won't be seeing them for a couple of weeks. I'll introduce the subject then, just to make sure the answers are spontaneous...
Kassandra, last par of post to you should begin
I'm not taking issue with...
I do concede that you are a person of superior intelligence, but in this case you happen to be wrong. Bye for now!
Lalara Pandora | 04.08.08 - 12:07 pm | #
I agree with everything you say.
Hoarse, It really isn't that important. There are enough Russians in my neck of the woods, so I fairly well know what their media tells them, what they think. Unfortunately, the new Russia is in many ways a reinvention of the old Russia.
I'm not taking issue with that, either, kassandra.
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