how about posting a list of such businesses and their owners?
we can't boycott what we don't know
A boycott wouldn't work, because it would immediately be stigmatized as anti-Semitic.
And how can you persuade the masses to stop watching Hollywood movies?
Thank god you're back Xymph, I started to worry that I'd have to go out in the real world and make friends...can't turn them off with a button.
Good for the Dubainans, Dubainites? Which ever is the correct way to say it, Good for them! If it is one thing the leviev types understand is loss of business. Get them by the short hairs.
US Tax, a Swindler's List, as it were?
Good one Xeno
A boycott wouldn't work, because it would immediately be stigmatized as anti-Semitic.
Xanadu | 05.01.08 - 7:02 am
It does work. And it's everyone's job to de-stigmatise it as pro-Palestinian. The arguments against being pro-Pal (or pro anything else for that matter), and anti-collective punishment, are unsustainable in an extended debate in a nominally Christian society.
The crux of the argument is that if being in favour of releasing the Pals from their crocodile tears-wielding Zionist exterminators and tormentors is anti-semitic, then the Jews have got a problem ... an outrageously Shylock-ish cheapskate problem.
Theft in the company of lies ain't Justice.
Hoarsewhisperer | 05.01.08 - 9:37 am | #
Yep.
But where's Dershie going to shop?
How about Lying Assholes R Us, Too?
if not for the uproar, would the govt of dubai gone ahead and let a zionist do business? 'business is business' so say sleezes. morals and ethics need not appear.
maybe a head needs to roll in dubai as an example of a really good business practice
i would let dirt shop in uzbekistan. there are a number of very good cauldrons with either boiling oil or boiling water. the liar can choose his desire.
One of the undeniable facts on the ground about Israel's propaganda (and same goes for War on Terror propaganda) is that it's based on what one could describe as Party-trick logic. One has to be half-pissed or brain-dead to fall for it. It just does NOT stand up to scrutiny. The Zionists are going to start bitterly regretting their heavy reliance on sly stunts and cheap tricks.
Hello Xym & Co. [“all present and accounted for” – mock, mock]:
I think it’s come to this: there’s a bunch of little David’s who’ve finally found a trove of slingshots and a stoning has begun. Yonder, yet breaking the horizon, are the twin Cyclops heads of the ugly hydra whose uber-scorn is about to be requited in lizards, e.t.a. soon. Mayhaps Dubai is but the first in a domino row of ‘mini’ siege engines.
A boycott hardly demands a telegraphed punch: a silent decision is but ‘a silent decision.’ It’s a foolish demonstration of but one fallacious hallmark of democracy: “democracy is choice.” Au contraire mon dolts [yo ‘nation’]: “democracy is truth.” I wouldn’t chortle through tulips with an ungainly placard proclaiming my truth; I’d simply marvel at the wonderful choices ‘democracy’ has afforded me and exercise my options accordingly.
Witness: good enemies are hard to find. (Particularly in empty theatres [but I ‘spect that downturn will be more through attrition than decision…])
WHAT? No Miley Cyrus hoopla here?
Ciao Xym & Co. [“all present and accounted for.” – mock, mock]
L.S.M.F.T.
A boycott WOULD work, because it would be immediately stigmatized as anti-Semitic ---
but after a while people would realize what a crock of shit the anti-Semitic label was and how it's only wheeled out for those who raise their voices against the Zionist murderers or for those who genuinely give a damn about the extermination of the Palestinians, the bravest people in the world.
One day, perhaps soon, people will begin to say, "I've always hated that shitty little country, with its army of dalek spokespeople, and I'm so glad so many people now agree. Thank God for those brave souls who got the ball rolling and made the boycott work in the first place."
us empire: goyim, goyim, gone...
Why should a crime against humanity be dignified with the nickname Israel? Why not call a spade a spade and call Occupied Palestine Occupied Palestine?
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According to
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
18,000+ Palestinian homes have been demolished since 1967 by The Occupiers and the Palestinians have yet to demolish one Jewish home.
boycott, trash the best you can.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TRY AND BOYCOTT ISRAEL
Here's an example of what happens when you try and organize a boycott of Israel. For brevity's sake, I have made extensive cuts and capitalized certain words for emphasis. This article appeared in the Guardian on Tuesday May 30 2006.
"Britain's largest lecturers' union yesterday voted in favour of a boycott of Israeli lecturers and academic institutions who do not publicly dissociate themselves from Israel's "apartheid policies".
Delegates at the annual conference of the National Association of Teachers in Further and Higher Education backed the proposal, despite mounting international pressure from those opposed to a boycott, including a petition from more than 5,000 academics and a plea from the ISRAELI GOVERNMENT.
The decision [to boycott] was greeted with disappointment and anger by anti-boycott campaigners.
The motion criticised "Israeli apartheid policies, including construction of the exclusion wall, and invited members to "consider the appropriateness of a boycott."
After failed efforts to prevent the debate, speakers outlined the litany of difficulties experienced by Palestinian students and lecturers living under occupation, including the number of Palestinian schools shelled by the Israeli army.
"The majority of Israeli academics are either complicit or acquiescent in their government's policies in the occupied territories," said Tom Hickey, a philosophy lecturer. "Turning a blind eye to what an Israeli colleague thinks about the actions of their government is a culpable blindness."
Delegate John Morgan said there was no academic freedom for Palestinians.
But the union's general secretary, Paul Mackney, spoke against the motion: "Most of us are very angry about the occupation of Palestine," he said, "but this isn't the motion and THIS ISN'T THE WAY. You cannot build a boycott on conference RHETORIC."
Natfhe delegate Ronnie Fraser, chair of Academic FRIENDS OF ISRAEL, said he was "NOT HAPPY AT ALL", adding that the vote brought "DISHONOUR AND SHEER RIDICULE UPON THE UNION."
Aharon Ben-Ze'ev of Haifa university told the Guardian he was "VERY DISAPPOINTED" [at the boycott vote], adding: "This will only serve to IMPEDE THE PEACE PROCESS and STRENGTHEN EXTREMISM."
David Hirsh [a Jewish opponent of the boycott proposal], said "If you organise an academic boycott of Israeli Jewish academics but no one else in the world, THAT IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC POLICY."
The idea to boycott Israeli academics, supported by a MAJORITY, was shot down in flames. The Enemy won. Yet again.
[but I ‘spect that downturn will be more through attrition than decision…])
L.S.M.F.T.
Agreed. Hollywood's crappy pap just keeps getting crappier. One can foresee the day when the Oscars have to be renamed to reflect a new reality of serial diminishing returns.
0 Scars...
Jews boycott and intimidate Israeli Christian business as a matter of course.
Christian shop-keepers being harassed in an open-market in Arad, Israel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-
...feature=related
Xanadu | 05.01.08 - 10:41 am | #
Addendum to the above: Nothing is going to work except a radical solution.
1. First the mass media must be wrested from the all-enveloping tentacles of international Jewry.
2. This can only be accomplished through the confiscation of Jewish assets. This has been done before in history. The wealth of the Jews was confiscated by the Princes before their expulsion from a number of countries. (Note: the confiscation of Jewish wealth would be fair and selective, leaving ordinary good Jews alone, i.e. Morris the Tailor and his ilk.)
3. The selective confiscation of Jewish assets can only be brought about by a military coup comparable to the coups of the early Roman Empire.
Here lies the solution then: a military coup. Soon may it come. We await the world's rescuer.
Xanadu | 05.01.08 - 10:41 am
All that story proves is that British academics were either unprepared for the onslaught or are easily-intimidated addicts to cosiness and lack of intellectual rigor and/or controversy and zero commitment to "deeply-held beliefs", unlike their Zionist opponents.
And what are these intellectual bumpkins supposed to be 'bringing out' in their students/disciples?
Learning to Love Logical Fallacies, Parts 1, 2, & 3?
or White-flag-waving 101?
The expectation of an easy victory in a battle worth fighting is an amusing one.
Boycott is a valuable communication tool and an essential element of democracy.
There is public boycott and the private one, which I have been pursuing for years.
Simply publicizing lists of businesses, enterprises and products would enable private boycotters to leave an indelible mark and convince legislators of where electorate stands.
Such lists could be posted on internet, maybe some wikipedia lookalike.
In fact, I know how to prevent such sites from being canned by authorities:
they should exhort customers to buy the listed products with helpful slogans, like
'Be a good noahide goy and buy it, all proceeds go to settlements! Settlements good! Israel good! Zionism good!'
If the site was shut down, it could immediately scream antisemitism and sue for billions in lost revenue for jew businesses.
Or you know what else would be right up their alley (they derive palpable satisfaction from giving to charity in itself, are masters of games and are always looking for phoney ways to prove their goodness) would be giving a small amount to Palestinian relief and then overcompensating elsewhere or setting up a phoney
Palestinian charity (like "Fatah").
Hollywood's days are numbered, just as blogs replace the NYT, youtube etc will eventually capture the mindshare of those still going to see the dismal and expensive crap on the big screens. I'd rather watch lo-fi truth than big budget bullshit.
The DC Madam is dead. Who could've possibly foreseen this?
If Leviev could have opened these shops, it would have been a huge victory for zion and a crushing blow to Arab and Muslim cooperation. Hopefully the al-Maktum and other dynasts will now realise that they need to watch a little closer what goes on in their international paradise, if only for PR purposes.
the entire power structure of zion is built on the premise of no-boycott by gentiles, remove that "no-" and the game is over.
k&y |05.01.08 - 2:11 pm|
who indeed?
a useful idiot overcome by bad conscience ... not.
notice a common development; the cops have a working theory of suicide before they even taped off the scene.
There is public boycott and the private one, which I have been pursuing for years.
lobro | 05.01.08 - 12:05 pm | #
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The expectation of an easy victory in a battle worth fighting is an amusing one.
Hoarsewhisperer | 05.01.08 - 11:33 am | #
Bravo Lobro. Bravo Hoarsewhisperer.
Do you suppose the U.A.E. ('public') port rebuff in 06 is mayhaps 'gone, but not forgotten?' (Reminds me of that L.A. Strip band Ratt - "What Goes Around [Comes Around]" for some reason.)
Nah...who'd risk the wrath...
Anyway, y'all take care...
According to Phil Weiss the NYT was opposed to recognition of the Entity but was cowed into submission by a threatened boycott of advertisers. Boycott is an old weapon for the other side.
Hoarsewhisperer | 05.01.08 - 11:33 am | #
What you say is correct. We Brits are easily intimidated. But what you have to understand is that this specialized emotion I call "rage-against-the-Jew" (nothing to do with anti-Semitism) is relatively weak in England. This is because we have a fairly small Jewish population here who keep a lower profile than the Jews of America do.
There is a groundswell of rage-against-the-Jew, and I'm not sure where its going to end. Given that anti-Semitism is actually promoted by the Jewish elite, who are never so happy as when they are hated, I sometimes wonder who is the angler and who is the fish.
where it's going to end!
DC Madam dead.
Looks like Albert Hoffman committed suicide too. He was 102.
Bicycle Day, indeed.
Albert Hofmann.
is that a joke, hp? surely he wouldn't bother with a suicide at that age, maybe an OD ...
Just a hallucination lobro. He had, as expected, a heart attack.
Hopefully he remembered that time he saw God and said hello..
Latest quote from Skunk's blog ("Rob Lowe with Yenta Lowe"): "The mother talked to teenager about the size of her children’s pen*ses."
That priceless asterisk, it spared me many a blush!
There are Jews out there who are not devoid of elementary common decency:
We’re not celebrating Israel’s anniversary
Letters, Guardian, Wednesday, April 30
In May, Jewish organisations will be celebrating the 60th anniversary of the founding of the state of Israel. We are Jews who will not be celebrating. Surely it is now time to acknowledge the narrative of the other, the price paid by another people for European anti-semitism. As Edward Said emphasised, what the Holocaust is to Jews, the Nakba is to Palestinians. In April 1948, the same month as the infamous massacre at Deir Yassin and the mortar attack on Palestinian civilians in Haifa’s market square, Plan Dalet was put into operation. This authorised the destruction of Palestinian villages and the expulsion of the indigenous population outside the borders of the state. We will not be celebrating. In July 1948, 70,000 Palestinians were driven from their homes in Lydda and Ramleh in the heat of the summer with no food or water. Hundreds died. It was known as the Death March. We will not be celebrating. In all, 750,000 Palestinians became refugees. Some 400 villages were wiped off the map. That did not end the ethnic cleansing. Thousands of Palestinians (Israeli citizens) were expelled from the Galilee in 1956. Many thousands more when Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza. Under international law and sanctioned by UN resolution 194, refugees from war have a right to return or compensation. Israel has never accepted that right. We will not be celebrating. We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state founded on terrorism, massacres and the dispossession of another people from their land. We cannot celebrate the birthday of a state that even now engages in ethnic cleansing, that violates international law, that is inflicting a monstrous collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza and that continues to deny to Palestinians their human rights and national aspirations. We will celebrate when Arab and Jew live as equals in a peaceful Middle East.
Signed, Seymour Alexander, Ruth Appleton, Steve Arloff, Rica Bird, Jo Bird, Cllr Jonathan Bloch, Ilse Boas, Prof. Haim Bresheeth, Tanya Bronstein, Sheila Colman, Ruth Clark, Sylvia Cohen, Judith Cravitz, Mike Cushman, Angela Dale, Ivor Dembina, Dr. Linda Edmondson, Nancy Elan, Liz Elkind, Pia Feig, Colin Fine, Deborah Fink, Sylvia Finzi, Brian Fisher MBE, Frank Fisher, Bella Freud, Catherine Fried, Uri Fruchtmann, Stephen Fry, David Garfinkel, Carolyn Gelenter, Claire Glasman, Tony Greenstein, Heinz Grunewald, Michael Halpern, Abe Hayeem, Rosamine Hayeem, Anna Hellman, Amy Hordes, Joan Horrocks, Deborah Hyams, Selma James, Riva Joffe, Yael Oren Kahn, Michael Kalmanovitz, Paul Kaufman, Prof. Adah Kay, Yehudit Keshet, Prof. Eleonore Kofman, Rene Krayer, Stevie Krayer, Berry Kreel, Leah Levane, Les Levidow, Peter Levin, Louis Levy, Ros Levy, Prof. Yosefa Loshitzky, Catherine Lyons, Deborah Maccoby, Daniel Machover, Prof. Eme
traducteur | 05.01.08 - 6:04 pm | #
Very impressive. The Guardian makes a habit of publishing these multi-signatured letters from time to time, and of course it has the desired effect of discouraging "intemperate" criticism of Israel. The Board of Deputies of British Jews, whose constant wails and whines clutter up the columns of The Guardian, will remain silent on this occasion. They know that such letters help to promote its own secret agenda: the stifling of anti-Zionist sentiment and a more "nuanced", caring attitude towards Israel.
I'm not saying the letter is insincere. I'm saying it won't help the Palestinians one little bit. They'll still be killing Palestinian children tomorrow.
Xanadu | 05.01.08 - 6:34 pm
i think you are correct.
one name, tony greenstein, if the one i am familiar with, is a real snake. he has attacked real criticism of israel.
all sorts of snakes within zionism. range from python to various levels of the poisonous. all kill.
Greenstein is a gatekeeper; his presence on the list casts a shadow on the others. Gilad Atzmon, the most courageous of all these folks, conspicuously absent.
By HOPE YEN, Associated Press Writer
Thu May 1, 3:05 PM ET
"WASHINGTON - Many Iraq war veterans with traumatic brain injury are not getting adequate health care and job assistance for their long-term recovery despite years of government pledges to do so, Veterans Affairs Department investigators say."
sacrificing for jewcons gets...what?
What you say is correct.
Xanadu | 05.01.08 - 4:17 pm
Only time will tell, Xanadu.
The British academics seem to have committed a tactical blunder by looking at their boycott from the wrong perspective. My guess is that they put the cart ahead of the horse and focused prematurely, and too much, on the mechanics of boycott implementation.
They clearly failed to consider the seriousness of the impact on the intended targets and the logical, predictable, and completely understandable, tooth-and-nail response. They probably allowed themselves to be swayed by emotive accusations of 'gross unfairness' and, because they hadn't married themselves to the concept of fighting gross unfairness with gross unfairness, were made to feel sufficiently guilty about their plan, to vacillate for just long enough for the doubts to take hold and thus, while feeling they were 'losing' the debate, felt (temporarily) obliged to capitulate.
[One has to admire the way the Zionists handled it. But then it is all too easy to forget just how much practice they've had.]
Being Brits, I'm fairly confident that the academics will learn from the experience and regroup with much more rigor and a more thoroughly developed (and explored) tactical plan.
And one shouldn't under-estimate the impact on the general population having seen their academics publicly humiliated for proposing a boycott on strong moral grounds. Boycotts, as has been mentioned several times above, boil down to a one person at a time individual decision. So the Zionist victory could yet prove phyrric.
Although we can all make a personal choice to avoid Israeli products or services, in the US doing this in business can have some serious consequences as such action is illegal.
http://www.bis.doc.gov/antiboyco...nce/
default.htm
http://www.divestmentwatch.com/
a...iboycottlaw.htm
http://www.adl.org/presrele/IslM..._62/
2526_62.asp
There are many watchers just waiting to rat you out to the gov't. Sad story but true, this goes back to before the war on terra.
sacrificing for jewcons gets...what?
5 dancing shlomos | 05.01.08 - 8:34 pm
Lotsa time in the uemployment line... for the lucky ones.
For the rest --
cc: Bush, Cheney, Pelosi, Clinton, Obama, etc:
"We had been told, on leaving our native soil, that we were to defend the sacred rights conferred on us by so many of our citizens settled overseas, so many years of our presence, so many benefits brought by us to populations in need of our assistance and civilization.
We were able to verify that this was true, and because it was true, we did not hesitate to shed our quota of blood, to sacrifice our youth and our hopes.
We regretted nothing, but whereas we over here are inspired by their frame of mind, I am told that in Rome factions and conspiracies are rife, that treachery flourishes, and that many people in their uncertainty and confusion lend a ready ear to the dire temptations of relinquishment and vilify our action.
I cannot believe that all this true, and yet recent wars have shown how pernicious such a state of mind could be and to where it could lead.
Make haste to reassure me, I beg you, and tell me that our fellow citizens understand us, support us and protect us as we protect the glory of the Empire.
If it should be otherwise, if we should leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then BEWARE THE ANGER OF THE LEGIONS!!"
-- From a letter written by Marcus Flavinius, a centurion in the second cohort of the Augusta Legion serving overseas, to his cousin, Tertullus, in Rome, quoted in the Prologue of Jean Larteguay's, "The Centurions."
"If we should leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then BEWARE THE ANGER OF THE LEGIONS!!"
— Roman centurion quoted by Franz
Like I said, a military coup is the only answer. Fallon, when he had the power, should have directed his attention to American shores. He should have stormed the White House and taken the Pentagon. He should have shut down Fox News and the New York Times. He should have confiscated the assets of AIPAC.
Never mind. It was a missed opportunity. As sure as the sun rises and sets, all this will come to pass as the new century unrolls.
Roll on the Revolution! Come, Utopia.
Fallon, when he had the power, should have directed his attention to American shores.
Xanadu | 05.02.08 - 4:36 am | #
Maybe he should have started with Tel Aviv.
A military coup is the only answer . . . Roll on the Revolution! Come, Utopia.
Xanadu | 05.02.08 - 4:36 am | #
On sober reflection, I have to admit this is all pie-in-the sky. I do not advocate violence. The way forward is through negotiation and democratic engagement.
If I sound like a breathless armchair revolutionary, it is because I am. I am an incorrigibly naive idealist who longs for change. For peace and justice. And I wouldn't hurt a fly.
Being Brits, I'm fairly confident that the academics will learn from the experience and regroup with much more rigor and a more thoroughly developed (and explored) tactical plan.
Hoarsewhisperer | 05.01.08 - 10:39 pm | #
I hope so. But their capitulation was shameless all the same. They had their jobs to consider. The taint of "anti-Semitism" wouldn't have helped their promotion prospects.
I think Gilad Atzmon is up himself. I find Mary Rizzo's interview with him painful to read, not because of what he says, but in the way that he says it. It a picture paints a thousand words...
http://peacepalestine.blogspot.c...gling-
with.html
Mary Rizzo is a translator, art restorer and especially Pro-Palestinian activist who runs the blog Peacepalestine. She is a founding member of Tlaxcala, a vibrant network of (proudly) radical activist translators that publishes a wide range of articles by anti-imperialist writers and thinkers from around the world in a dozen languages
"One name, TONY GREENSTEIN . . . is a real snake. He has attacked real criticism of israel. [There are] all sorts of snakes within zionism."
5 dancing shlomos | 05.01.08 - 6:56 pm | #
You're right. I suspect the Guardian letter is little more than a PR stunt for Zionism.
Laurie's post above yielded a lucky nugget of information on Greenstein from the peacepalestine blog. Here's an opening quote (my capitals and cuts):
"Tony tried to PULL THE BLOG so no one could read these remarks. As regular readers know, Tony Greenstein has been focused (obsessed, actually) for at least 3 years on TRYING TO SMEAR AND DEFAME GILAD ATZMON.
Ever since Gilad criticised the "internal lobbying" of a group of Secular Jewish activists . . . Tony has decided that his campaigning would revolve around labelling someone who would expose the cheap shot as an "ANTI-SEMITE" . . . and if Tony and Co. are legitimated to act "as Jews" . . . no one is supposed to condemn that, because to do so is "ANTI-SEMITIC", according to his logic.
3 years of AD HOMINEM ATTACKS, most of them based on FALSIFICATION, INVENTION, "guilt by association" and other tactics that impede upon the freedom people have to read or listen to Gilad Atzmon, all because he turns on some lights where others would prefer the darkness.
It is a pressure and HARASSMENT CAMPAIGN that has also extended to GILAD'S CLOSE FRIENDS OR AFFILIATES."
The article continues in the same vein.
A google search of some of the other names appended to the impressive Guardian letter would undoubtedly yield quite a number of slimy snakes slithering around in the grass!
WHAT KIND OF WEBSITE IS THIS?
The dearth of commenters on this website today does not bode well. I myself intend to take a back seat soon, becoming a reader rather than a contributor. Pressure of work makes this mandatory.
Before I go, however, I must ask myself: what sort of website is this? Is it safe to be here? Is this a dangerous anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi website, as is now being alleged by Rowan Berkeley?
Even scarier than that, is this a Zionist honeytrap? Are one's comments being carefully monitored for political correctness? Is Big Brother watching us?
All I can say is this: people who are capable of discussing Hindu metaphysics and the poetry of Pound and Eliot in an intelligent way cannot be compared to neo-Nazi skinheads. Neo-Nazi skinheads do not write poetry. They do not anguish over the genocide of the Palestinian people.
I think this is a website for the anti-Zionist intellegentsia. Sometimes you get a few nutcases who go too far. Guys who think Hitler had the right idea. Sickos who want to wipe out every Jew in sight, including the good Jews — because even the good Jews are bad in their eyes.
I haven't met any such people on this site while I've been on it. I'm glad of that. Much as I respect the superior intellect of the departed Rowan Berkeley, I can't help feeling that his cruel criticism of this website borders on paranoia.
Most of the posters on this site sound like ivory-tower academics who couldn't hurt a fly.
Check out this G. Edward Griffin speech (author of Creature from Jekyll Island about Fed Reserve) This was given Tuesday evening at the University of Texas Austin. Get past the introductions to hear him speak, Badnarik etc.
At the link below, the speech is contained in 2 mp3s as part of the April 29 show of Kevin Barrett.
http://mp3.wtprn.com/Barrett08.html
Topics include:
Quigley conspiracy
Why 1776 type Rev is not possible
Alternatives to resist the NWO
Freedom Force International
Guys who think Hitler had the right idea.
I may, or may not be one of those guys if you tell me what was that idea (vegetarianism? prohibiting smoking or boiling lobsters alive?), with proper annotation and sourcing.
De Valera squashes a weasel at Taki blog
http://www.takimag.com/blogs/
art...ng_on_uncle_sam
"To those legitimately complaining about Israel and its lobby here:
did you say anything about the Irish American politicians who sent
financial aid to the IRA terrorists in Northern Ireland?"
Nice try but no cigar, Mr. Ravitch. I invite you to demonstrate how
Irish American politicians are invited on junkets to Ireland two or
three times per year to help coordinate their activities along
pro-Irish lines. I invite you to indicate the whereabouts of the
"American Irish Public Affairs Committee" on K Street and show us how
a visit to said group is a sine-qua-non for all American poiliticians
seeking high office.
I invite you, Mr. Ravitch, to demonstrate the security guarantee that
the US has given to Ireland, and which of Ireland's "enemies" a major
presidential candidate has twice threatened to "obliterate." I invite
you to name one country that the US has invaded on behalf of Ireland's
strategic interests, to indicate which Irish-American Pantagon
officials planned it, and name the anti-Irish, foreign head of state
who was led to the gibbet.
I invite you, Mr. Ravitch, to name the IRA leader or Irish chief of
intelligence who initiated an operation in the 1950's to commit
terrorist acts against US diplomats in the British Isles, and I invite
you to comment on the "celebrations" of same on their fiftieth
anniversary by the sitting Irish government.
I invite you, Mr. Ravitch, to name the Irish American female
journalist (at which Irish-owned "newspaper of record?") who colluded
with Irish American US government functionaries in lying and
manipulating the US into war.
I invite you, Mr. Ravitch, to discuss the unprecedented number of
"Irish Art Students" who were apprehended surveilling US government-
and public buildings prior to and after the September 11 attacks. I
also invite you to comment on the Irish-owned "Moving Company," five
of whose multiple-passport-carrying employees were arrested on
September 11, 2001, after they were witnessed filming the burning Twin
Towers and step-dancing with malicious glee, and because of this have
become known as "The Five Dancing Irishmen." I also invite you to tell
us which Irish American Federal Judge (who is now our Attorney
General) promptly ordered the release of these "moving men", to the
consternation of the police in NY and NJ.
Finally, Mr. Ravitch, I invite you to indicate how the fundamental
interests of the USA, which include first and foremost stability in
Middle East to ensure the free flow of the oil that is the lifeblood
of our economy, are undermined by any official connections that are
cultivated with Ireland, as opposed to our connections to another
country that has demanded and received our blank-check participation
in its own crimes that threaten our access to that same oil. As a
postscript, my last invitation to
Finally, Mr. Ravitch, I invite you to indicate how the fundamental
interests of the USA, which include first and foremost stability in
Middle East to ensure the free flow of the oil that is the lifeblood
of our economy, are undermined by any official connections that are
cultivated with Ireland, as opposed to our connections to another
country that has demanded and received our blank-check participation
in its own crimes that threaten our access to that same oil. As a
postscript, my last invitation to you is this: Please tell us how any
official connections the US may maintain to the Emerald Isle have made
the killing of Americans a priority among Ireland's enemies - you
know, the people that Ireland has ethnically cleansed, oppressed,
robbed and murdered since 1948.
Thank you.
Posted by De Valera on Apr 30, 2008.
the superior intellect of the departed Rowan Berkeley
As we say around here, "N'exagérons rien."
Between trips to the local bomb shelter, they watched Israeli trucks deliver fuel and supplies to Hamas in Gaza in the morning; and they watched Hamas store the fuel and supplies in depots near the border in the afternoon. In the evening they watched news reports echoing Hamas' claims that Israel is depriving Gazan hospitals of fuel and Gazan civilians of basic foodstuffs.
Wednesday night they tried having a Yom Hashoah ceremony in Sderot but it was interrupted by incoming missiles. For its part, Hamas marked the Holocaust with a documentary series claiming that the genocide of European Jewry was a satanic Jewish plot to cull the Jewish population of its handicapped and to manipulate the world media.
Even scarier than that, is this a Zionist honeytrap? Is Big Brother watching us?
Xanadu | 05.02.08 - 11:21 am
Assume yes till you know no. 
Other issues: As a steelworker (retired but working elsewise) I have known working class Zionists and the rest of their opinions are similar to ordinary flatland Americans. Ordinary Jews hereabouts protested the arrival of Wal-Mart (as just one ferinstance.)
"Neo-Nazi" is never anything but your tax dollars at work. I did the gun show thing and I know. Chittum's "Civil War II" arrived when I was around.
For the straight dope on "White Power in America": Do a search on FBI "Special Support Groups" which are called SSGs or just plain Gs. The FBI, with ADL help, hires ex-felons, head cases, drifters or just plain opportunists and lets them play nazi in order to snag unsuspecting but frustrated citizens into doing something illegal. (Re: The whole Randy Weaver thing.)
The real number of dangerous rightwing terrorists in the US is probably zero. Maybe a nut off his meds once or twice. Whenever you hear someone think "neo-nazis" are a REAL threat in America, write 'em off. They're evil or just plain dumb.
Who needs either?
Just how many times every year is everyone supposed to commemorate those imaginary events?
"Guys who think Hitler had the right idea."
— Xanadu
I may, or may not be one of those guys if you tell me what was that idea (vegetarianism? prohibiting smoking or boiling lobsters alive?), with proper annotation and sourcing.
lobro | 05.02.08 - 11:57 am | #
Sorry lobro, I expressed myself carelessly . . . but I think you know what I mean! I am a Holocaust revisionist myself, as most people on this site would tend to be.
i do know what you mean, no offense taken or intended.
My point is that when dealing with an edifice of falsehood, everything must be questioned.
I have seen precious little to validate HC claims and lots to dispute them, hence in absence of confirmatory evidence, I am a solid revisionist.
Since the exact same pack of liars also constructed the sanctioned perception of AH, I reject it without even bothering to look up the documentation, i.e., I know precious little about Hitler, his life, career and thoughts.
However, this testament was written in the last hours of his life and it paints an entirely different picture of the man - I cannot identify one statement there that I would strongly disagree with. Certainly doesn't strike me as a ravening mass murderer and there is no motivation for lying at the moment of death.
lobro | 05.02.08 - 5:51 pm | #
If you are impressed by Hitler's Testament, maybe you want to give Mein Kampf another try. It's a book I never bothered to read before, but I saw the paperback in the library last week and decided to borrow it. It's certainly worth reading. Not at all turgid, as its translator Ralph Manheim suggests.
Manheim, incidentally, was a Jew, and here he is translating Hitler's early memoirs — taking every opportunity to inform the reader in almost every footnote how wrong old Adolf was about everything! Bit of a hoot, really.
Another thing that needs to be said is this. Hitler discusses propaganda at great length in Mein Kampf and what he says is spot-on. Everything he said has been adopted and implemented by the Israelis and American neocons. Whatever they learnt about war propaganda, they learnt it from Mein Kampf.
Since we are on the subject of Mein Kampf, I might as well tell you that I wrote a letter on this subject to the David Irving website last week. Unfortunately, it was rejected. Why I don't know, since he has accepted most of my other letters.
I think it's either because he knew Manheim personally, and I was pretty scathing about Manheim. Or else he found the letter embarrassing in some way. A bit over-the-top perhaps. One of my failings.
Anyway, this seems a good opportunity for me to copy and post my Hitler letter on this site. Seems a shame to waste it. Maybe someone will tell me why it was rejected.
LETTER ON HITLER'S MEIN KAMPF TO DAVID IRVING (1)
Dear Mr Irving,
It was with considerable surprise that I learnt from your website that Hitler’s Mein Kampf (1925) is banned in Germany. I had no idea.
I note with some amusement, now that the copyright of Mein Kampf is about to expire—and none can stop its publication anyway—that there appears to be a campaign afoot in Germany to prepare the public in advance for this momentous event. Thus academic Norbert Frei insists that “notes and criticisms” should precede the dangerous book, and that this edition must have “educational and societal value”. Moreover, Stephan Kramer, general secretary of Germany’s Central Council of Jews, has volunteered with alacrity “to help with the annotations”. One cannot help wondering if Hitler himself would have welcomed all these kind services.
As a reader of the English edition of Mein Kampf, originally translated by Ralph Manheim in 1969, I perceive that every effort has been made to alarm and prejudice the reader in advance—the object being, it would seem, to deter the reader from reading the book, or else to work him into a froth of hatred toward the dangerous nonsense he is about to read. Why readers cannot be left to form their own judgements is a mystery to me.
Mr Manheim begins by informing us on page 1 (in his Translator’s Note) that Hitler is a lousy writer, illogical and disjointed, that he made “the most extraordinary allegations”; and that he was, in so many words, an absolute dead loss. One can only wonder why Manheim bothered to translate the book at all!
(Continued . . . . . )
LETTER ON MEIN KAMPF (2)
Hitler’s style, Manheim tells us, “is without colour and movement. Images are rare, and when they do appear, they tend to be purely verbal and impossible to visualise.” (My italics). I beg to differ. Plucking out quotations at random, here is what Hitler has to say about his first encounter with the Viennese Jew: “When thus for the first time I recognised the Jew as the cold-hearted, shameless, and calculating director of this revolting vice traffic in the scum of the big city, a cold shudder ran down my back.” (p.55). I have no problem visualising this.
And as for dull imagery and colourless language, what are we to say to this: “Was there any form of filth or profligacy, particularly in cultural life, without at least one Jew involved in it? If you cut even cautiously into such an abscess, you found, like a maggot in a rotting body, often dazzled by the sudden light—a kike!” (p. 53, my italics). Whether “kike” is an accurate translation for the German word used by Hitler, I am in no position to say; but I cannot accept that Hitler is a dull stick without a scintilla of literary talent.
Given the inflammatory nature of the sentiments quoted above, I can well understand the need for Hitler’s latter-day Jewish “annotators” to prepare the way for the German public by providing “context” and “nuance”. Personally, I cannot see how Germans can expect to get anything other than a bowdlerized version of Mein Kampf that has been distorted, misconstrued, and thoroughly vilified in advance.
Anne Cavendish
Cambridge
England
I guess it was too long. Letters need to be short nowadays.
Is Xanadu RH?
why was it rejected?
Maybe something like this:
Xanadu’s style, Manheim tells us, “is without colour and movement. Images are rare, and when they do appear, they tend to be purely verbal and impossible to visualise.”
Or maybe because he (Irving) was indisposed, doing time.
RB not RH
US taxpayer | 05.02.08 - 12:33 pm
Thanks for that and the continuation.
Powerful food for thought.
anyway, i appreciate the heads up on hitler and it is a good letter too.
it's just that i am a very lousy reader, couple hundred words at a sitting is all i can handle - used to be better but lost my book mojo.
now i scavenge off people like you, xeno, rowan, laurie, ken and others to do the heavy lifting for me.
de valera did a bang up job of separating irish wheat from zionist chaff.
http://www.lobro.blogspot.com/
Lobro you need to update your blog more often! You rock anyway.
Listen here friday, I know RB, and Xanadu is no RB. But who would want to be RB anyway? Not even him it seems lately.
well, it coulda been worse, if you know what I mean.
Maybe I can sneak past the Pearly Gates someday on strength of that blogspot (but Mr., I mean, St. Peter, she is an impostor, I am the real deal)
I think she sounds hot. You could definitely do worse.
I agree.
Well, so long as the conversation is kept to a minimum.
Her favorite band is 'Israel and the New Breed'.
At least it wasn't 'Israel and the Inbreed'.
Nothing wrong with humming a lot..
if not for the uproar, would the govt of dubai gone ahead and let a zionist do business?
5 dancing shlomos | 05.01.08 - 9:49 am | #
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My point is this: the Doobies weren't sheepishly saying 'fuck you.' Lo! They were telegraphing their punch. The suffered a pretty substantial drubbing [intl'ly] on the port rebuff 06. (U>A>E>=Dubai°.) Kinda like Nicholson in King's "The Shining" whereupon "Here's Johnny" is informed his money aint no good. POW.
It's the new tit-for-tat and we reserve this, & we reserve that, but end o' day thou shalt shit upon thy shat. But all the waders come from China...
Well...that's a pretty shitty poem. Sorry Xym & Co. "I have others?" [Fuck off!]
Alright...
Ciao
Listen here friday, I know RB, and Xanadu is no RB.
travis bickle | Homepage | 05.02.08 - 10:01 pm | #
You're quite right. RB is a polymath, Xanadu a poet. RB thinks, Xanadu feels. RB does, Xanadu is.
The putrid tribe is doing a purim dance about Ken Livingstone losing mayor of London. They were scared even of Ken! The sun must be ashamed to shine on such abject poltroons.
They've scored a run of victories lately--Italy, France, now London, they have the US presidency locked up in November. Consolidation.
Umm who's tracking me Carnivore 4.0?? Oh nevermind. CPUSA needs a partyzone, that's what I'm seeing in response. Over 2000 people signed up there at the Utica outpost, hippies, peaceniks, social deformists, Oh my. Here's the op, we (under yer' hats now folks) get in and ruin the illiterates just like they want to ruin us all the while watching the door. Bottle o' Stoli styled democracy et al parastroika, big fur hats flightcoats with Russian insignia.
What I'm hearing from the groundwire is that people are setting up their own chapters at campuses somewhere and there are probably about 5000 or so interested in doing this kind of undercover thang which turns the tables on everything they do to us. A nice nice op--saaaadly the Brit who did all the spelling tests has died (he actually finished the last 200) yes died for mother Russia's jealous vengeance against the west all for moose and squirrel drinking contests. Anyway yada yada I think there needs to be a new CPUSA headquarters, as you all know Utica NY blows and might really suck it for Czarina on Mikes hard lemonade and scotch op doorwatching.
Here's my plan--(cough) get 'em stoned, talk weird shit, prove yourselves 100%, find the commies, become the comies, hold the hair back from their faces and continue with the beerbong hits until all answers are revealed for operative secret agencies in um maybe Prague (or was it Istanbul or was it Demascus?). make them change headquarters to the Jersey Shore or something--hell I don't know but we get in and gut 'em. They (the secret jew jews) did it to us since the Vietnam era we serve it right back at 'em. No one is armed from all detection but they might try red dyes in weed from ADM hamburger (Chinese)--it's arsenic that makes the colon simulate bleeding fissures (nevermind) that's all I'm seeing as far as dangers--it can't kill you but will make you sick. Russia (not the high leadership who apparently thinks I'm Jesus--they brought in Russian orthodox Psychics) is pissed but they're not sure if it (our plans) will take off--it shall, not a nyet on that'un as it seems to have so many people involved. There are as many as 5000 looking for a good place to Parastroik somewhere so I guess it's a go.
Have fun and fuckin' ruin 'em good--it's a positive greenlight--orr maybe is it red? Let's fuckin' get em' it's a beautiful op-all in progress.
Have fun all, smoke yerself stupid--bye.
See if they want to bye some microfische while yer' all at it (no one uses microfische anymore obviously) they aren't smart--have fun.
yes, Someone I can stand, send my my free 'sign up for revolution' brochure.
http://russophobe.blogspot.com/
2...utin.html#links
Smek alert.Kim Zigfeld, Russophobe extraordinaire, quotes approvingly from Jewish atheist Chris Hitchens'
blast against Putin and Russian Orthodox-resurrecting Russia.
didnt know alcoholic hitch was jewish. he does spew like one.
God bless Putin. Putin resurrects the Church. the Church will resurrect Russia.
me neither, you sure ken?
irrelevant, anyway, agreed with everything else.
Their church, nation is what, 99% white? I wish them a racial resurrection as well. Yockey really thought the russian commies were asiatic losers, but relative to the remaining West today, they look like the great white hope.
alcoholic hitch discovered his mother was jewish and became a zionist overnight.
Russophobia infallible indication of a scoundrel.
Why not change 'Christian' name to something more proper, like Chaim?
At any rate, this is their way of 'rediscovering their roots' and scurrying back into kabbalistic bolthole of the world of topsy-turvy morals.
The larva can gestate for centuries before coming out.
I think Ken will appreciate the following story, maybe with his bloodhound journalistic talent he can verify it.
In the summer of 2003, while vacationing on Adriatic coast, I ventured into the Herzegovian hinterland, to the city of Mostar.
Once the crown jewel of Ottoman Europe, it was almost leveled by tripartite shelling by Catholics, Orthodox and Muslims.
In the centre were hundreds of tiny arcaded shops, burnt and gutted.
For centuries they were run by a prosperous guild of tinkerers and coppersmiths, who looked Muslim, wore turkic fezzes, prayed publicly towards Mecca and all.
Then in the middle of firing, armistice was imposed by USrael and and airlift of Jews took place to ship them out to the Evil Entity.
No one had had a clue, but Jews knew Jews all along and these tinkerers, who were apparently descendants of Jews booted out of Spain by Isabella and Ferdinand, knew all along the true score and so did some other Jew agency.
The far-seeing Richard Nixon, when asked by Patrick Buchanan and his wife how he saw the future of Israel, turned down his thumb “like a Roman emperor at the gladiators’ arena”.
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber...r.com/node/
6656
list of suspicious suicides
http://
www.democraticunderground...opic_id=3232050
yes, they crucified Nixon, I did not see it at the time of Watergate but he was too sharp for them. He said that he was being taken down by Jews and everyone just wrote it off as a paranoid rant.
The War of Civilizations was in full swing without anyone outside Zion having a clue.
his history is undergoing hitlerization procedure now.
The Chinese believed him.
well, there are Mossad death squads roaming America now, suiciding whistleblowers, character assassination, etc.
I guess the Chinese, the Muslims and the Russians were never as comatose as the rest.
I'm pretty secure in the thought that I won't be killed before my time, and I certainly do not lose any sleep over the threats I occasionally receive.
But then again, my hide is hardly worth as much as a prime coon or a beaver.
Definitely not a beaver..
As again seen in some song of "The Fugs", could Nixon have been sort of scapegoat for the Vietnam-war. Maybe blamed too early at that time.
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democratic underground that's not comfortable.
and
An Iraqi delegation in Iran has confronted Iranian security officials with evidence that Tehran is providing support for Shi'ite militias battling Iraqi government forces, an Iraqi official said on Friday.
"They presented a list of names, training camps and cells linked to Iran," Haidar al-Ibadi, a member of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's Dawa party, told Reuters. this rather puts up questions about the Iraqi gvtm.
http://mparent7777-1.livejournal....com/
33764.html
(new adress, thanks taxpayer for the link)
http://mparent7777-1.livejournal.com/
I'm wondering, hp, maybe some crazy people (anti vegetarians).
No Fritz, it's the out loud public complaining about Israel/dual citizens and my letters to the editor of the local paper. I always receive several nasty letters nin reply to my comments and the occasional threatening phone call.
I always tell them the truth. They are welcome to come over to my house anytime.
Ah,Hitchy, from bewitching Oxford rentboy to whisky-sodden carcass in just 40 short years.
Hello Xym & Co.
FROM THE PHYSICS ARXIV BLOG
The hunt for superheavy elements has focused banging various heavy nuclei together and hoping they’ll stick. In this way, physicists have extended the periodic table by manufacturing elements 111, 112, 114, 116 and 118, albeit for vanishingly small instants. Although none of these elements is particularly long lived, they don’t have progressively shorter lives and this is taken as evidence that islands of nuclear stability exist out there and that someday we’ll find stable superheavy elements.
But if these superheavy nuclei are stable, why don’t we find them already on Earth? Turns out we do; they’ve been here all along. The news today is that a group led by Amnon Marinov at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has found the first naturally occuring superheavy nuclei by sifting through a large pile of the heavy metal thorium.
~~~>
By BM on Apr 30, 2008 | Reply
Please note that this is author Amnon Marinov’s fifth claim of discovering a long-lived superheavy element. He claims to have seen a multi-day Z=115 in 1977, long-lived Z=111 in 2007 (two isotopes), and long-lived 210Th and 211Th in 2004. None of these claims were accepted by the community or confirmed by subsequent experiments.
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After all is said and done, I hate to say it: why is that not surprising?
When I started reading the article, upon coming to source of the discovery, the red flags went up.
I say 'thank you' BM. Remeber though, "just because you think the world is out to get you, doesn't mean the world isn't out to get you."
Fritz | 05.04.08 - 1:25 am - With Iraq in the mess it is in (thanks to us) and bordering Iran, Iran has every right to influence what is happening. The best defense can be a timely offense.
jeeeus hp be careful. "Live to fight another day" is my motto.
Taxes, thanks for the whistle blowers link.
Nixon knew who his enemies were and yet he still trusted Kissinger. This tells me he wasn't antisemitic just a bit naive or maybe he was operating under "keep your friends close but your enemies closer".
Was myself writing some letters to newspapers. too, before internet, but here a chance to get printed was only in using a very moderate tone, hp. Myself I would have heroic ideas, like to join the kkk ):- only joking, but Laurie is right, and to follow the inner voice and use the art of stalking (don juan) can have more promising results. And there's another frontier, the unknown.
and, hp, women are more experienced and intelligent on the described path, so was said.
minds so diseased and the disease passed from generation to generation.
lousy computer. takes 10 minutes between each mouse click. will have to wait for another.
shame, interesting this morning.
I always tell them the truth. They are welcome to come over to my house anytime.
hp |05.04.08 - 2:18 am|
Spoken like hp that I know.
Anyway, if they visit, it will be as a 19-Arab team, so don't worry unless you suddenly become a popular politician.
A single Jew is no threat to you.
L.S.M.F.T., I read that last week, also.
As soon as I saw Amnon's name, I too quit reading. Just like I quit smoking those toasted Lucky Strikes.
Laurie, run away so I may again run away another day? Naw. All that running? I'm way too lazy.
Fritz, like Don Juan, if they're waiting for me, I just won't show up..
lobro, but I am a popular politician. Just not elected or electable.
Hitchens' case had to do with his having been adopted, if I'm not mistaken, and he has a brother,writer
Peter,a "conservative," who was also involved somehow.
Bickle
Yockey's later work could be interpreted as "pro-Russian."
http://www.zionism-israel.com/lo...s/
00000524.html
Professor Land's work re Jewish identity debated.
Rabbi Baruch Korff remained Nixon's stalwart defender until his inglorious
flight from D.C.
lobro | 05.03.08 - 8:50 pm
I remember an airlift but I believe the suggestion of surprise by a heretofore oblivious non-Jewish community is a little melodramatic if not actual distortion.
i wouldn't know, ken.
i suppose that Mostar contingent would have been unique within the larger jewish population and unrecognized as such by regular Mostarians, especially if they adhered to a seemingly devout Islamic lifestyle in an otherwise multicultural city.
Certainly they were never bothered by any of the WW2 protagonists.
Maybe they were not even jews but were tempted by the promised land and rape of fellow Muslims in Palestine (too bad there is no tongue-in-cheek smiley).
Why not just provide links, cites documenting the broader population's surprise that thousands of people unbeknownst to themselves but in their midst intermarried only among themselves for hundreds of years, secretly practised a Judaism which guaranteed unity, never were outed by even one renegade, then successfully fled from the line of fire?
But let's leave any Skunk "documentation" out of it.
sounds like a reasonable request, don't it?
take a third world civil war hellhole whose inhabitants are reduced to drinking their piss while cowering in ramshackle bomb shelters and require them to archive their experiences by way of well documented blogs.
no electricity? no problem, use satellite phones as modems ...
might as well extend that backwards to find out how neanderthals managed in their times against cave bears.
why not just find out whether the coppersmiths' shops got repopulated by previous owners?
L.S.M.F.T. | 05.04.08 - 3:02 am
The crux of this story is that Israel is messing around with Thorium. Apart from the obvious nuclear possibilities, Thorium may play a part in the ignition, and or ferocity of combustion of Israel's superfluously vicious and nasty D.I.M.E. anti personnel weapons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium
Here's wiki on D.I.M.E.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Den...Metal_Explosive
Here's Palestine Free Voice on D.I.M.E. and Israel's use of Palestinians as imprisoned lab rats for 'testing' them.
http://
palestinefreevoice.blogsp...experiment.html
Note the date in relation to the SNAFU Little State's attack on undefended Lebanese civilians while the MSM was wholly focused on same.
"..Have fun and fuckin' ruin 'em good--it's a positive greenlight--orr maybe is it red? Let's fuckin' get em'.. "
Someone I can't stand | 05.03.08 - 1:22 pm | #
A word of caution, Someone I can't stand, you appear to be slipping into some sort of self satisfied dualistic heresy.
I am sure this is inadvertent, but it has been suggested that the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Heresy is not always immediately apparent.
Consider what Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyon, had to say in his popular book on the subject, "Against Heresies.",
"Error, indeed, is never set forth in its naked deformity, lest, being thus exposed, it should at once be detected."
You need to tread carefully through the theological minefield.
When the West rose to power, led by their blasphemous philosophers, demonic scientists and priestly class of unfaithful two faced braying jackasses, it was only a matter of time until the entire world felt their devolution of society on a personal level.
Good job! A bang up job!
Ah, the future..
Miasma is too good a word.
"The Occupiers and the Palestinians have yet to demolish one Jewish home."
Hoarsewhisperer
A sense of perspective is required , there have been some badly damaged roofs in Sderot and more recently in Ashkelon
lobro | 05.04.08 - 11:19 pm
How'd you, the sole outside witness, find out about it then?
I appreciate your story as Snopes would.
Moreover, there aren't need of verifying "blogs," just on-scene stories that orginate out of war zones and those which are conveyed when the dust clears. Can't buttress it, concede whoever you heard it from was inventive, even if patting yourself on the shoulder.
When civil war broke out in 1991, Bosnian Jews were left without many options. The Joint Distribution Committee (JDC) relieved the Jewish communities with food and supplies. The most important measure that the JDC took was to airlift over 2,000 Bosnian Jews out of the area. In this way, many more Jews were saved who would have otherwise been trapped in a war. Many of these Jews were taken to Israel and chose to remain there after the breakup of Yugoslavia.
Here is a more mundane version of a "similar" event. The story that there were thousands of Jews around Mostar who had, along with what would have been tens of thousands of forbears, kept their identity secret from Muslims for hundreds of years until an airlift escorted them to safety is palpably absurd-except to political Maenicheans at weak moments.
Wasn't this same scenario repeated in Kosovo(a)? Particularly Pristina.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Sat...icle%
2FShowFull
No but glad you asked.
I never said thousands, your turn to provide evidence, if I recall, I said hundreds and they were apparently just a small sect.
At any rate, I don't make up fishing tales but merely reported what i heard.
Do you think i specifically went there to plant weird stories?
Even if they were still there, a bunch of cryptos, what business of mine is that, they didn't break any laws, so if they want to pursue such a lifestyle, fine by me.
I sometimes think that you are a fearless Manichean hunter.
My trip took me to Medjugorje site, which was such a letdown that i proceeded a few more km in order not to call it a complete waste of time.
While there, i heard all kinds of nasty stories, mostly from Muslims directed at Catholics but among them was the one I related merely to illustrate a point, which is that they are well networked.
Btw, back in Toronto, I met a young Jew from Sarajevo who almost as soon as he arrived in circa 1993 landed a cushy job with CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp.), while other emigres had to scrabble in dirt for survival.
ziz | Homepage | 05.05.08 - 12:53 pm
Silly me!
How could I have forgotten that the Pals have damaged 21 Israeli rooves? Now the Izzies will have to demolish an extra 3000 Pal homes just to show they're not biased©.
lobro | 05.05.08 - 10:39 pm
Your hundreds,as I made clear, necessitated a hypothetical scenario of past thousandsfor hundreds of years (intermarrying only within and/or to secretely converted partners,who also kept quiet) going unnoticed by an oblivious population
and un-outed by resentful open Jews, or by renegades.
Medjugorje was rejected by the local prelates most authoritative as a hoax.
Also exposed by many traditionalists, and conservatives , I believe E.Michael Jones might be a prominent example.
think Samaritans, Ken, where are their thousands.
A small, inbred, decaying sect has yet persevered for millenia.
Today, they are a tiny but stubborn tribe, color blind for many generations (as part of inbreeding program).
Given their time span, what are 4-5 centuries?
As for the surrounding society's obliviousness, I can buy that since Bosnians are a remarkably tolerant and forgiving people, even their animus toward aggressors, be they Serb or Croat is diminishing rapidly, as I found out. They are perfectly ready to forgive and move on.
I think (not sure) that their disposition is philosophical in the best Sufi tradition.
A great bunch, generally speaking, bloodthirsty warlords and crooked politicians notwithstanding.
back to the dershowitz. let him shop where he should sleep - with the fishes.
Forgiveness has nothing to do with obliviousness.
Overt Samaritanism in this context has nothing to do with covert crypto-ism.
Stilted, lobro.
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