Well, I'm with you there Xym. in your item (6) - vote fraud in New Hampshire. My fanmail goes to the Ron Paul Revolution, and he is one of the two most targetted by vote fraud (the other being Obama). If the RPR does not contest the election and demand a recount, then they may as well pack up now, hand back all the money they received from hundreds of thousands of enthusiastic supporters, and forget they ever existed.


Gravatar OBAMA IS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.. billionaire Pritzker family (Zionist Jews out of Chicago) own that nice BOY!
Bulov. Iraqwar.ru

His chief financial supporters are the billionaire Pritzker family (Zionist Jews out of Chicago). Abram Nicholas Pritzker founded the Hyatt hotel chain. The Pritker family is one of the wealthiest in the USA. They’ve owned Braniff Airlines, Royal Caribbean Cruises, and so forth. Obama’s primary bank is Penny Pritzker (Zionist Russian-Ukranian Jew) who is one of the richest women in the USA. Pritzker is a treasurer for the “Real Estate Roundtable,” an AIPAC offshoot in Washington that lobbies for legislation to help commercial landlords. Almost all members of this “Roundtable” are Zionist Jews. Since the days of the Rothschilds, when powerful Jews team up to influence a nation, they form a cabal they call a “Roundtable” (their word, not mine). For example, the Jewish bankers that financed World War I and Bolshevism cooperated through an organization they called the “Roundtable.” Thus, when Obama went home to Illinois on February 12, he was met at the airport by 7,300 anti-war protesters who shouted and held signs that read, "Cut the Funding." Obama immediately departed to attend a personal fundraiser hosted for him by Chicago billionaire Penny Pritzker - see :
http://fairuse.100webcustomers.c...ugh/ trib30.html


Gravatar "A Vienna court sentenced the 43-year-old former financial manager of the International Helsinki Federation for Human Rights (IHF) to three years in prison, the Austria Press Agency reported. The fraud forced the IHF to shut up shop after 25 years last November and begin insolvency proceedings. The court heard how over a period of six years he had diverted funds from the IHF to his bank account, disguising the transfers as payments to humanitarian projects. In fact, the money went mainly to his 31-year-old mistress. She used it to gamble—apparently spending up to 5,000 euros a week playing poker—and to pay for cosmetic surgery, including breast implants and a nose job. The accountant told the court he was ‘practically her slave.’"
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/ Disp..._January226.xml


Gravatar Re Item 5
I couldn't believe my ears when I heard Dubya saying this.

"There should be an end to the occupation that began in 1967. The agreement must establish Palestine as a homeland for the Palestinian people, just as Israel is a homeland for the Jewish people. These negotiations must ensure that Israel has secure, recognized, and defensible borders. And they must ensure that the state of Palestine is viable, contiguous, sovereign, and independent."

Still don't.


Gravatar Perusal of the comments section to Clemons' blog raises questions about C's loyalties, and Xymph's judgement.

It would not be an unprecedented irony if this blog turns out to be serving the interests of those it most vociferously denounces.


Gravatar W is trying to sound not controlled, but nothing he says will ultimately have any relevancy. Fuck the fruit indeed.


Gravatar It is always safe to assume bounded rationality and limited information on the part of all actors involved. Only the master conspirator, i.e., God, might be aware of all games. On earth however, the puppet masters are few in number, great in power, but not always playing non-zero-sum games with one another.
It is a truism that the best agent is not aware to be one, and this may well be Edmonds case. Xymph's 'caveat lector' is therefore in order. Contratictory information from unusual sources tend to be disinfo, but exceptionally it may of factional disputes whose context is invisible.
I only disagree with Xymph's reductionism in his categorical depiction of a struggle between a Wasp establishment and Jews.

There are many parties, factions, interests, and loyalties interacting in multiple levels. But if there is one single conspiracy subsuming all others it would be called 'the Establishment'.


Gravatar re: New Hampshire recounts.
Kucinich has demanded a Dem recount,
Alfred Howard has demaded a Rep recount.

Howard is one of those "Other" candidates.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/24235
especially:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/24...de/24235? page=1


Gravatar H whispering - you may have heard him (Dubya) say it ... he didn't mean it ... and surely didn't understand it.

He has subsequently given the thumbs up to expanding the settlements.


Gravatar at least olmert had the decenty to slip into hebrew before telling lieberman and yosef they needn't quit.


Gravatar ziz | Homepage | 01.11.08 - 7:10 am
So I've heard. Nutty, isn't it?
Referring, of course, to the vast quantity of insultingly idiotic crap people are prepared to tolerate before their impatience and humiliation get the better of them.


Gravatar Am I the only person who has pondered the possibility that the (political) blogosphere is little more than a NWO-approved Wailing Wall for bleeding hearts?


Gravatar NWO approved? While much of the wailing on internet results in nothing, I don't think THEY are keen on the emergence of Ron Paul's power and renown via the internet. I think they are probably scrambling to "create" or compromise the next generation grass-roots populist heroes. We will likely see the cross-over of popular bloggers into the political arena and internet traffic stats provide our handlers with an easy way to prioritize targets. How many of the emerging celebrity bloggers do you think are already on the global intelligence payroll? Why not this one? Like they say rat poison is 90% nutritious and 10% deadly.


Gravatar Talk is cheap especially king george's. I'll wait to see what happens.

The blogosphere may well be a wailing wail but if it provides information, we are still better off.

We in the States never use to hear any criticism of jews/israel in the press and now we do. Why? I'm sure their behavior hasn't changed. There is a reason they are being pointed out. Someone is pissed off, about what I don't know, but something is going on.


Gravatar yeah but you are being pointed back towards an archaic and unreal liberalism (the wailing about 'isolationism' is quite superficial by comparison with this).


Gravatar The jewess Alexandrova fails to see anything wrong with "Zionism" or jewish tribalism though "some zionist have become fascists"....

Really?

What a fucking fake the only jew i respect is Gilad Atzmon


Gravatar aaRaw Story and Larisa Alexandrovna are just not trustworthy sources. I do glance at them from time to time but, argh, they are too often wrong and too often a waste of time. It's worth noting that both of them have 3rd country connections that, I assume, is why they are used a laundries, just to keep it kinda legal. Oddly, both RS and LA seem kinda sincere so I guess it's possible that they don't know they are being, um, I guess the right word is, spun for someone's gain.

...the world has changed...

Yes, but even though he said some new things, I wouldn't assume Bush has changed. I suspect he had to say some of that as payback to Blair and maybe Rice and/or other playas. And, of course, I'm not sure Blair or Rice or whoever has changed but, yeah, they need Bush to say that stuff for domestic consumption, as they say, and because the GOP wants to position itself to take credit for whatever settlement might happen, even if it's in the future and even if it's just for US consumption.

Dunno about Christian Zionists and the NH vote count but, yeah, the Dem really should support a scientifically useful recount. WTF is wrong with people, you should recount votes regularly just to make sure regardess of whatever fraud you thing might occured. It's just good voting hygiene.


Gravatar Larissa probably represents some left liberal russian faction. She has a sort of punkish charm, though, apparently a by product of the melt down of socialism was a vivid punk style.


Gravatar i often wonder why it's called "Raw Story" when it is the exact opposite of raw - it deals with the mass media as process.

anyway she spotted some good news - digital rights management is more or less dead:
http://today.reuters.com/news/ar...ZON- SONYBMG.xml


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Gravatar Alfred Howard, Republican Presidential candidate from Michigan is apparently in NH now and has till the end of the day to file for a recount. 67K is needed to pay for it and 17K has been raised so far (GrannyWarriors.com), I think he gets another week to have all the money collected. Quite a few Ron Paul supporters, myself included, have told the RP campaign that RP needs to get onboard or those fabulous "money bombs" will be getting rather light. I thought RP did very well last night in the SC debate.


Gravatar the perils of machine translation

Most entertaining. Evidently there's life in our profession yet.


Gravatar I noticed from one of her videos that Sibel is supported by Frank Lautenberg, who is a liberal hawk.

I went off to look up his views on Israel but he doesn't seem to have any, yet.

Then I got distracted by this horrible square grid they use to rank the peoples' views:
http://www.theadvocates.org


Gravatar Item 4 (where Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi Yona Metzger violates kol nidre) - i used to think that a self hating jew is the one who speaks the truth but that requires an adjustment: truth is kosher among fellow settlers but becomes anti-talmudic when allowed to be reprinted in "goy" (as if there is such a thing) press.

open wide, here comes a generous helping of big oil, courtesy of shills like mark steyn.


Gravatar 5. Antiwar Democratic Congressman Dennis Kucinich has sent a letter to the relevant New Hampshire party asking for a recount. If you are one of the candidates, no matter how badly you were trounced, you do have the privilege to ask for the recount, it seems.

4. Bush's Israel visit seems funny to me in this way: what is Israel going to get for going against its long-term plans to follow through on a two-state solution which affords Palestine a lot of advantages it otherwise would lack? What is the other shoe? Why doesn't it drop? I think it must be a deal about bombing Iran, and soon.


Gravatar We in the States never use to hear any criticism of jews/israel in the press and now we do. Why?

Laurie, what you're hearing is the steam whistle going off atop the pressure cooker - some pressure being released is all ... it is still matzo + chicken soup inside.


Gravatar word


Gravatar or - lokshen soup and begels


Gravatar Chech this out from here..


Gravatar I managed to get a comment onto haaretz describing his speech as "remarkably tactless"


Gravatar Title: That`s an exceptionally tactless interpretation
Name: Rowan Berkeley
City: London
State: England
Perhaps he really does feel that the only significant WW2 Jewish casualties were the religious ones. He`s that kind of man, isn`t he.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/obj...3& itemno=943913


Gravatar This is the passage from Bush's speech I was attacking:

"I guess I came away with this impression, that I was most impressed that people in the face of horror and evil would not forsake their God -- that in the face of unspeakable crimes against humanity, brave souls, young and old, stood strong for what they believe."


Gravatar He's probably still laboring under the assumption that jewish is a religion instead of a state of mind.

You may well be right, lobro, it's just the steam kettle...but we can live in hope.


Gravatar there is this empty word 'ethnicity'.


Gravatar Nice try. Ethnicity means which ever team we want to be on and will have us.


Gravatar 6. Election Fraud in NH-

According to BBV, this is not as simple as we might wish & is fraught with potential mines:

""
"We have no control over the ballot chain of custody and we have learned the pain from the 2004 Nader recount, in which only 11 districts were counted, chosen by a highly questionable person, and then nothing showed up. Now all we hear is how the Nader recount validated the machines."

As Tobi says, "A candidate asking for a recount may well be a tool used to 'prove' everything was okay and then that candidate will be further discredited."

I'll go further than that. The only way a recount makes any sense at all in New Hampshire is AFTER an assessment is made of the chain of custody issues. If the chain of custody isn't intact the recount won't be worth a cup of warm spit."


http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin...1954/ 71260.html


Gravatar I have to say - I understand the doubts and questions about Sibel Edmonds but going on about it isn't really helping in that regard.

Nearly a week now and there isn't even a hint of it in the MSM. And all we are getting is more conspiratorial confusion from bloggers who should be IMO speaking loud and clearly about finding the truth...


Gravatar And I'd also say that Xymp gives the ZOG far too much credit for covering their tracks when we've got many examples of their sloppy crimes i.e Niger uranium forgeries(Raimondo today), Blair's plagerized dossier on Iraqi WMD etc etc..


Gravatar ...World Trade Centre building 7....


Gravatar I could even hypothesize on Xymphora's credentials based on his apparent desire to have us doubt Edmonds veracity.

But then that would be rather pointless wouldn't it?


Gravatar stevieb - Right now, Chertoff is making a speech about how we HAVE to have national ID, and connection between state drivers' license agencies...What objections by civil libertarians "Grounded in misrepresenation" "We're not going to have a national ID database which makes info available willy-nilly" - oh no?

Very Doomsday Book post-conquest - eh? He actually says that the 9/11 hijackers had flaky ID and that is why 9/11 happened. While his nephew went to work in Pop Mechanics to show that the buildings fell by fire...

Anyway -- I am waiting for someone to assault the ID issues with 9/11 ...his Big Lie rationale

No place to run, no place to hide....


Gravatar I liked it better when men didn't cry...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20080...srael_holocaust


Gravatar What delicious irony - let's bomb the Jews to save them....


Gravatar baradei expresses some rather conventional views and does some hand wringing to dar al hayat:
http://english.daralhayat.com

incidentally, I have exchanged a few emails with jihad al khazen, who writes the fiery "ayoon wa azaan" column, and he turns out to be a catholic.


Gravatar sibels' views on clemens's theory:
http:// www.democraticunderground...mesg_id=2645973


Gravatar that whole thread is nice except that lukery and sibel both recommend this :
http://www.consortiumnews.com/ar...ve/ story33.html
in messages 158-151 in the thread, and indeed the book "the beast reawakens", by martin lee, who is an ADL/SPLC type of guy


Gravatar Good News:

Alfred Howard made it to Concord on time but didn't have the cash needed to pay for a recount. The GrannyWarriors found this Eric who had the cash and he paid it.

The recount is on. Announcement was at 1:30PM today.


Gravatar what I mean about martin lee is that I have read "the beast reawakens", and just as its title would suggest, it is one of those books that tells you that gladio-type state-terrorist groups (like the grey wolves in the immediate instance) and david duke etc etc, is all part of one big conspiracy against left liberal civilisation.

all such writing is jewish hocus pocus, which is designed specifically to obscure the fact that the state of israel has been the foremost ally of grey-wolves-type state terrorist organisations, death squads, far-right campaigns against peasant nationalists in central america, etc, supplying trained killers complete with state of the art jewish weapons to the neo-fascist state-sponsored paramilitaries, alongside CIA - nothing to do with David Duke etc etc etc


Gravatar so if sibel thinks martin lee is cool, that makes her a phony.


Gravatar What I hear Al-Baradei saying is that the smart boys should take care of the dumb boys.
I had the distinct impression Democratic underground was a jewish/liberal site.

The consortium news link sounds like anti-turkish propaganda BS to me, which doesn't add to sibel's credibility.


Gravatar it's a chance for me to identify the martin lee type of propaganda with more precision, and I shall tell you how it works in one sentence - it fails to distinguish between bourgeois fascism and proletarian fascism. this is a typically jewish manouevre in that it involves first understanding marxian class logic and then deciding to use it in reverse.


Gravatar I would be happy for a definition of fascism and how it differs from socialism.


Gravatar if abbas is foolish and weak, he is, he will accept this proposal for a pal state. ersatz israel will be officially recognized as a jew state and the pals will get to extinguish themselves in cages controlled by the zoo keeper.


Gravatar In the memorial's visitors' book, the president wrote simply, "God bless Israel, George Bush."

"no, jewry does not control me. no, i am not a puppet. tears always well up in my beady, soulless eyes when master says 'cry'." - monkey george


Gravatar at 342, forgot to thank laurie for link to jpost article.


Gravatar yahoo news not jpost


Gravatar I noticed from one of her videos that Sibel is supported by Frank Lautenberg, who is a liberal hawk.
I went off to look up his views on Israel but he doesn't seem to have any, yet.
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage |01.11.08 - 9:57 am

RB, long time since ive heard his name. i sure lautenberg is a jew and a strong supporter of israel. probably a closet israeli.


Gravatar This might the one time I agree with you Shlomos. Ok here's the deal, The deal is: Israel gets recognized as a state by Palestinians (and the rest of the Arabic states)... is it a deal?


Gravatar not just a state, but recognized as a JEW STATE. this arafat refused to do. maybe why or one of the whys that israel killed him


Gravatar Joos franchise 'Holocaust":

The Turks haven't learned the British way of denying past atrocities
http://books.guardian.co.uk/ comm...1674478,00.html

Monbiot however genuflects to the One True Holocaust:
There is one, rightly sacred Holocaust in European history. All the others can be denied, ignored, or belittled. (...)


Gravatar "norman finkelstein in the netherlands" by jelle bruinsma at counterpunch, 1/5.

reveals NF to be another chomsky. a gatekeeper, a deceiver.

a game going on. NF gets tossed at depaul but he does get a large dollar award. he now has greater street credibility and will give many speeches and write books. the other professor tossed, name?, got nothing.

such is jewry.

chomsky:finkelstein; same:same; gatekeepers:deceivers


Gravatar i love liars
liars come to me
liars called jewry
spin a lie
wrap a lie
post a lie
lay a lie
we are lie
we gave the lie
our lie beget lies
lies R us


Gravatar forgot.

if the palestinians again refuse the unacceptable, the world dumps on them again. their fault. ersatz israel has no partner, etc, etc, lie, lie, lie.

now i can go enjoy sabbath friday.


Gravatar good poem 5ds.

George Monbiot's father is jewish on his mother's side, ruth margaret salmon. George's family sounds pretty inbred judging by his Wiki write-up, he's his own fourth cousin. All of which gives him a double dose of caring for others, hence his involvement with the global justice movement. Once he's done prancing around the world shinning light on injustice, i'm sure he'll run for office. He's just a little rich do gooder.


Gravatar Berkeley

Over on Orcinus in the comments somebody was talking about Marx's attack on Proudhoun as an example of the former's anti-populist attitudes, and of course assuming that "true" socialism and populism were antithetical. Yeah, well....


Gravatar Schlomos should admit ,in spite Finklestein's shortcomings , Mearsheimer and Walt themselves do not simplify matters as much as he would like. Therefore the role of Cheney and Rummy remains slightly more ambiguous.


Gravatar Where did I hear this before?

You shall have no other genocides before me.
(…)
you shall not bow down to them or serve them;
for I the Holocaust your Genocide am a jealous Genocide,
visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children
to the third and the fourth generation of those who deny me,
but showing steadfast love to thousands of those
who love me and keep my commandments


Communist Manifesto 20:3


Gravatar Hen Koop never answers how building #7 came down...lying piece of shit he is.


Gravatar NF gets tossed at depaul but he does get a large dollar award. he now has greater street credibility and will give many speeches and write books. the other professor tossed, name?, got nothing.

such is jewry.


amen.

unfortunately, every time i cave to the inner nice guy, and give some jew credit for normality, the reality check comes up shortly afterwards.
Of course, there are those who deny reality at all costs.

i think they know it and play the system all the time.
Psychology as a field must have been invented for this primary reason, to study goys and how to pavlovize them.


Gravatar america has been deformed into the 13th tribe, that faithfully eats shit of the other 12.
consider that the highest virtue in usa is the ability to sell, sell, sell, the more worthless the product, the more exalted the successful salesman.
Hype, marketing, never-ending bullshit (did the word even exist before ZOG?).

Who was (the jew) that said: 'america is the only nation that believes its own propaganda'?

exactly, and the credit for befouling an entire huge nation goes to them, the masters of deceit and perversion of morals and language.

of course, the so called establishment eagerly bought into it for the filthy lucre.

most americans know they are constantly lied to but not only accept it, they eagerly anticipate it and complain bitterly about ripoff if they don't get it; in press, TV, movies, books, politics, ... i guess the truth sucks and is not on par with hollywood, 'reality' shows, dancing with stars, star voyeurism, ... reality is for losers like iraqis, who displeased the lie masters and are left out to suck on DU for sustenance.


Gravatar I agree with Ron Paul, Hossain, who you have also called a lying piece of shit while posting kook material galore from true shits.


Gravatar look lobro-the moment NF says he is a communist he immediately ousts himself as a player in American politick. All else, as someone once said, is commentary or Commentary.


Gravatar # As has been noted by many, the Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi Yona Metzger thanked Bush for attacking Iraq as part of Bush’s support for Israel. Just think of the slurring that goes on if anybody else even dares to mention this most obvious of facts.


http:// www.theawarenesscenter.or...tzger_Yona.html

The Awareness Center is The Jewish Coalition Against Sexual Abuse/Assault (JCASA)

Case of Rabbi Yona Metzger

Chief Rabbi (Ashkenazi) in Israel

Rabbi Yona Metzger is accused of sexual misconduct with four men.


Gravatar Dear Sirs,

Unfortunately I must protest your continued and persistent semitic concrètist posture.


Gravatar yea, Ron Paul supported the Israeli bombing of Iraq's Osirak nuke reactor, and I suppose that you support that as well...motherfucker!!!


Gravatar http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Mid...t/ JA12Ak03.html


Michael Scheuer analyses bin Laden's latest tape and his options. Will he attempt to turn the jihad on the Saudi government?


Gravatar If Ron Paul's foreign aid policy had been adopted ,ong ago, Israel would not have had the means to bomb Osirak--a bombing with which Iran's Islamic government found no fault, kook.


Gravatar Anyone else picking up on the reaction among US blacks (Brazile for instance) to standard political attacks on Obama. They be outraged, by the Clintons no less. Seems as though the first "black co-presidents" ain't stepping aside to let the black man have his turn at the top of the mountain. Now that's just plain racist, see I told you all them crackers was lying devils.

Who can blame them though, they've been trained by the jewtube to see every criticism as racist hatred.

Oh, this is going to be rich. This race may hold more lessons for western whites than the OJ trial. Obama-rama will be cast-away by the elites before he gets his hands on the prize. They'd be too scared with him in office, sort of like how you'd feel getting on a 747 flown by 2 black pilots. Scared. Very scared.


Gravatar Five Roads to Doomsday:

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/page/2/


Gravatar Clintons put on blackface for fun but when the race is on, it is back to jewface because they are brown-nosing a richer vein there.

Not that Obama would do things any differently.


Gravatar At times like this I have to remind myself that Israel does not reall have a free press, but that the ministry of defense (the kirya= their equivalent of the pentagon) frequently tells them not just what NOT to print but actually tells them what TO print:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...ges/ 943962.html

"NYT reports Syria rebuilding bombed nuclear site"
no scare quotes around nuclear


Gravatar here is the NYT version, which most certainly does not stipulate that the site was nuclear, without any cautions, controversies, or caveats:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/1...st/ 12syria.html

people may recall I mentioned a tradition here in blighty whereby disinfo from the secret services was always leaked AT THE WEEKEND to the Daily or Sunday Telegraph or the Times.


Gravatar I would be happy for a definition of fascism and how it differs from socialism. Laurie | 01.11.08 - 3:04 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ A._...A._James_Gregor

I have all his books except the ones on sovietology


Gravatar sorry, what am I saying - except the ones on china


Gravatar the way that wikipedia profile smears him is absolutely typical.


Gravatar Larry Ellison, a literal bastard Jew, is the 'Invisible Man' CEO at the Oracle R&D Park in Tel Aviv. What a SAP.


Gravatar Larry Ellison, CEO of Oracle Corp, CIA/Mossad asset?

Prior to forming Oracle, Bob Miner was Larry Ellison's manager where they worked at Ampex together on a CIA project code-named "Oracle."

http:// searchoracle.techtarget.c...1261162,00.html


Gravatar shake in your shoes, oppressive kuffar!

PORTUGUESE air traffic authorities have intercepted a message describing a militant threat against the Eiffel Tower and passed it to French authorities, a Portuguese source said. "It is true we intercepted a conversation with terrorist threats to the Eiffel Tower yesterday," the source, who asked not to be named, told Reuters. "Our air force informed the French air force of this matter." Paris police referred inquiries to the Eiffel Tower where nobody was immediately available for comment. French daily Le Monde reported today that intelligence services were tracking the authors of the message. The newspaper said Portuguese air traffic authorities had intercepted a "vague and confused" short wave radio message yesterday, according to a police source.


Gravatar Watch out for 19 iranian hijackers on four Air France planes.


Gravatar with short wave radios, that should give them away


Gravatar the very sagacious Laura Rozen describes the Syrians' rebuilding on the bombed site as "an inexplicably stupid thing to do," but she doesn't say why:
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogd...irs/ 006898.html


Gravatar Thanks for the suggestion Rowan. I was sorta hoping not to do the work myself.

Ahmed, interesting article about Ellison's CIA connections. It doesn't seem very bright to associate your technology company with the CIA.


Gravatar My own view is that fascism is a regression of capitalism towards a nucleus composed of its oldest sectors, which are the landowners and the really large bourgeoisie such as the mine owners.


Gravatar I don't feel quite happy about the above formulation - after all, not all nations have mines. But I do think that the landowners and their traditional supporters the BISHOPS will always feature in fascist power elites.


Gravatar along with the lickspittle THEOLOGIANS


Gravatar fascism maybe the most organic social structure. If you think about older societies they seem pretty much fascist. A wealthy elite (kings & court or whatever) and religious figures always rule.


Gravatar that brings me to a very important point - the moving finger wrote, and having writ passed on - you can't rewind history, and the attempt to try is in a way constitutive of fascism (to be precise it is constitutive of fascism's characteristic form of false consciousness).


Gravatar So you take more of a judaic approach to time and that is that time is linear? That's not pagan.


Gravatar That's an interesting question. How does one prove that a consciousness is false? Maybe there should be two Berkeleys in philosophical history


Gravatar 'false consciousness' is a piece of marxian jargon, but I can't think of any form of 'false consciousness' that doesn't in some way pretend to recover a lost past.


Gravatar my replacement hebrew class has now been cancelled, apparently because there wasn't enough demand.

I am going to curse Nitza Spiro with a mighty curse, but that will probably not make much difference.


Gravatar That's a shame, but don't give up, another one will come along. Keep practicing what you already know so you can jump right in again....I plan to do that with my Nietzsche.


Gravatar trust the Force, Rowan
(Force solves everything)


Gravatar you know Laurie you have no idea how DILUTED BY METAPHYSICS your customary mode of thought can be. For instance, when I talk about it being impossible to rewind history, I am NOT trying to make an "eschatological" point - I am saying that capitalism in its efforts to recover its lost rates of profit will destroy itself repeatedly, more or less seeking a "year zero" for investment, Pol Pot style.


Gravatar Why are Yids making ominous noises about Osirak?
Because they failed to incite attack on Iran, their cup of evil overfloweth, so who else to vent their venom on?
Besides Syria was always part of Eretz-land, sort of like Cuba is an extension of Dade County, right?

The elders of roundtable have spoken and their flying monkeys are screeching the news into the ether.

Free the Kurds! (Turkey's gonna love it)


Gravatar why rewind the history when one can rewrite it for fun and profit?


Gravatar how do you stay so sunny lobro


Gravatar Good point lobro. Rewound or rewritten, six of one or half a dozen of the other.

Rowan you have rather an apocalyptic world view.


Gravatar I think i agree with you about force in the sense that i think my emotional, psychological, one could maybe say spiritual involvement with things jewish has a momentum of its own, which if thwarted from its more constructive consummation might turn into - ahem - a golem.


Gravatar Destabilize Turkey and that puts pressure on Russia. It will also put pressure on Europe as muslim refugees flood west. They'll have their clash of civilization one way or another. How's that for apocalyptic?


Gravatar Lobro I don't think he meant that as a compliment to us.


Gravatar you can destabilise things the easy way, or the hard way. the easy way is by bombing them back into the stone age. the hard way is paying people to run provocateur groups (what Kitson called "pseudo-gangs").


Gravatar Or crash their economy.


Gravatar Is Kitson spelled correctly because I'm not getting anything that sound correct when I google it.


Gravatar crashing peoples' economies is a complex task, even with the best will in the world, so to speak.


Gravatar It isn't Barry Kitson you mean is it?


Gravatar Brigadier Frank Kitson wrote the definitive book on "Low Intensity Warfare", which has become THe classic of counter-insurgency.


Gravatar here's a review of it:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/arch...ves/27/ 054.html


Gravatar Good, I began to worry you turned goyem.


Gravatar I need my fix of hebrew, I need it bad, I is hurtin.


Gravatar See you start with that sh*t and look what happens.

I've heard that about street gangs before, that they really are just a way of controlling people. It works. It's also a good way to identify people with leadership qualities.


Gravatar actually it does seem to me that the real reason they don't want me to learn hebrew is that they are frightened of occultism.


Gravatar What is kabbalah if not occultism?


Gravatar well, up to a point all this fits into the normal cleft stick that Gilad Atzmon among others congratulated me on having identified a year or more ago : if you fit into the right wing religious zionist brainwashing system then they own you and it doesnt matter. if you don't, then they treat you as someone without any legitimate specific interest in israel or jews at all.


Gravatar Wait a minute I read that piece and I thought if you answered with left leanings they directed you to their lefty group. I'll go find it if I can.


Gravatar Here we are:

“First they ask, Do you believe that (Jewish) Nationalism is a Good Thing, or a Bad Thing?

If you say it is a Good Thing, they will direct you to the Jewish Right, which will tell you that Jews have as much of a right to be nationalistic as anybody else does.

If you say it is a Bad Thing, they will direct you to the Jewish Left, which will tell you that you are not allowed to protest against Zionism on any basis other than Marxist or Anarchist Proletarian Internationalism - thus disqualifying almost all the actually existing anti-Zionist movements in the Arab world.

They can get away with this ideological shell game because each individual discursive arena is controlled by one or another Jewish faction.”[7]


Gravatar what constitutes 'legitimacy', buying into the cult?
by that standard, my loathing of hyenas is illegitimate.


Gravatar blimey _ I wrote better then that wot i does now


Gravatar Hahahaha, I think you're forgetting what end of the stick you're shaking. You have to get up pretty early to pull the wool over the eyes of the Cannuk and me.


Gravatar I've got to get somethings done. Talk with you tomorrow.


Gravatar this is so good
http://niqnaq.wordpress.com/2008...ts-hard-to-say/


Gravatar how do you stay so sunny lobro

i think it is radioactivity, the same process that powers the sun


Gravatar I want those who obstruct my access to the mystic east to feel my effin' wrath.


Gravatar I am beginning to think that it may just be a jewish collective inferiority complex, that makes them allow only those pre-selected for ideological submission to learn their language, which would otherwise require them to treat them as equals.


Gravatar -- and this is not just the rabbinical types, as with the system of monopolising jewish food via kashrut -- this is the goddam laborites too.


Gravatar collective linguistic, culinary, religious, etc. self-ghettification...


Gravatar Perhaps it's because they are unable or unwilling to approach, let alone acknowledge the ultimate mysticism.


Gravatar yes - but I would only agree in the sense that no "they" in this banal collective-assertive sense can comprehend anything which cannot be written in bureaucratese.


Gravatar " I need my fix of hebrew, I need it bad, I is hurtin."
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 10:47 am

tell 2 lies. you'll feel better.


Gravatar jewish culture actually is based on an inferiority complex, if we include the nietzschean sense of inferiority, i.e., inferiority in strength rather than in morals.

the whole culture, right across the board, from religious-rightist to secular-leftist, starts from "we were the smallest of all the nations, and yet... "


Gravatar forgot to put this with my post yesterday:

israel's current proposal of a 2-state solution is jewry's "final solution" for the unwanted palestinians.


Gravatar didn't bush say something like "forget that silly old UN"?


Gravatar you know Laurie you have no idea how DILUTED BY METAPHYSICS your customary mode of thought can be. For instance, when I talk about it being impossible to rewind history, I am NOT trying to make an "eschatological" point - I am saying that capitalism in its efforts to recover its lost rates of profit will destroy itself repeatedly, more or less seeking a "year zero" for investment, Pol Pot style.
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.12.08 - 10:06 am | #

It's called gambling. Double or nothing until you lose it all. Because if you win, you go it again.


Gravatar This feeling of mine for the jewish world only seems paradoxical because you don't apply the marxian class analysis. In fact, by listening to israeli punk bands and frequenting disreputable israeli web sites, I claim the acquaintance at least of some more or less lumpen part of the jewish israeli proletariat, which makes it impossible for the jewish bourgeois watchdogs to call me an anti semite.
RESIST
ALWAYS AGAINST THE OPPRESSOR
NEVER WITHOUT THE OPPRESSED


Gravatar Which is why they have to tax your winnings, so the Government survives even if no one else can.


Gravatar Global civil disobedience. Isn't that where we are now?


Gravatar global general chaos, more like. Who is one supposed to be obedient to if one already belongs to "a state within a state"?


Gravatar i mean, the jews are the quintessence of the "state within the state", and it is precisely this vague designation, "the jews", which maintains their solidarity. But my complaint is that I feel I am being