Gravatar But the only sophisticated form of the oil argument is the Bichler and Nitzan form, which shows that EXPENSIVE OIL is a corporate US policy goal.


Gravatar jim lobe has got a whole lot of really detailed material about the make-up of the interlocking policy elite in washington:
http://www.ips.org/blog/jimlobe


Gravatar Five dreary dreadful years of war in Iraq. Not an anniversary for any joy. Karmic justice that the U.S. economy is in full meltdown mode.

By the way, I think it was Paul Craig Roberts who resigned from his Treasury position over Cheney's attitude that 'budget deficits don't matter' and 'now it's our turn for some loot'. He also told us that the Iraq war was top of the agenda from Day One of the Bush II Administration.

Arab News summary:

How to Destroy a Country and Get Off Scot-Free
Tuesday 18 March 2008 (10 Rabi` al-Awwal 1429)

http://www.arabnews.com/services...Off%20Scot- Free


Gravatar Craig Roberts is right and Xymphora is mostly wrong. It's historically very normal for ruling elites not to be able to grasp their own interests, this stems from their view of society from a position of very narrow social experience and a below-animal state of mind. The old greek tale about King Midas, who wished to change anything he touched into gold, but then discovered he couldn't eat or drink because gold is neither eatable nor drinkable, is essentially about this theme. As the roman-greek historian Polybios noted, especially the heirs of the conquering elites tend to tyranny because of their greed. The son of a Bush as was Wilhelm II of Germany is no exception.

Cheney announced from the beginning (1992) that they were after the oil, they wanted to monopolize this resource and thus strenghten their global power. That there are people living in these areas is in fact as unknown to the american ruling class, as is to this class or any other of the same kind the existence of anything outside themselves except as vehicles for producing more profits.


Gravatar 1) Since the 1970'es "the seven sisters" lost control over the oil to state bureaucracies (Saudiarabia, Russia, Venezuela, Iran...) Thus they badly needed and need an area where they again can explore without restrictions: this they hoped to get in Iraq, Azerbadsjan, Africa (Nigeria) etc. They didn't understand the political and historical situation in the Middle East at all, they are not able to, because the rulings classes of our times has developed an exceptional lack of what you call culture: they're braindead media (TV) idiots and barbarians. F. ex. the latest wife of the french president speaks of herself as "a conquering carnivore" - i.e. in the same language as Hitler.

2) Second driving force of course was and is the military-industrial complex and the survelliance-paranoia-industry who always needs a new enemy of the people to make war on. Pentagon is at the centre of all this, intertwined with Cheney/Halliburton, Bushoil (Exxon etc.) and so on and so forth. The ruling classes of our times firmly believe in policing the society to death purely out of their deep lack of any understanding of society whatsoever. They only have their prejudices and narrowminded decadance. They are the modern Marie Antoinettes. This of course goes for the israeli elite as well: noone is making "wars for the jews", they only use the religious myths for propaganda purposes. Every ruling class is making wars for money, so it is and has always been. The russian elite is very glad of the "GWOT", because it has given them free hands in their own backyards so far. But as they have eaten, their appetite has been growing as is always the case. And when several imperial elites have growing appetite, we know the results.


Gravatar I think it's a marriage made in hell. Zionists and market fundamentalist oilmen assholes. Really all part of the same hydra, spinning controversies for pseudo intellectuals to discuss.

All you really need to know, is that the trade center complex was blown up, and then covered up, by these same players.


Gravatar no, Glenda, the shell game of having jews and christians accusing one another of doing it is essential, because it makes 911 itself into a football that can be kicked back and forth to the point of becoming easy to ridicule.


Gravatar Classic Xymphora analysis.

I would add three things, briefly.

1. The war is a war for the Jews and for the Jews' oil. The pipeline to Haifa will be very profitable if and when the Straits of Hormuz are interdicted in any way, or even under normal circumstances. Fancy chaffering for your oil ration, anyone?

2. The Pentagon/USA military is the world's single biggest consumer of oil.

3. Blair did better than your lot. Not only would Iraq oil pay for the cost of killing all those Iraqis and destroying their country, but Blair told Parliament that Iraq oil revenues would go into a trust fund for the benefit of the Iraqi people!

The ignorant slobs bought it, of course.


Gravatar of all the pipelines in all the world that any dummy might shoot holes in, the pipeline to haifa would rank highest, when they got round to upgrading it from 9" to 27", or whatever the exact number is.


Gravatar but rowan, the haifa pipeline would be a buried pipeline, supposedly less easily targetable by AK-wielding saboteurs.


Gravatar In all the argy-bargy about oil, pipelines, israelis, arabs, palestinians --- whatever happened to the superb bargaining chip that could have been brought to the negotiating table?

if the israelis behaved themselves and handed back all the palestinian lands at the 1948 borders or even 1967 borders, then the saudis would reopen the TAPline, and the iraqis would reopen the mosul-haifa line, and huge licks of oil would embark from the eatern med on supertankers for US & EU destinations. The israelis would get lots of oil biz, oil freight would halve, palestinians would have their dignity back, iraqis would have their country back, yankees could go home, and the world would be at peace.

So why not this oil for land deal?


Gravatar have you looked at the bichler and nitzan theory, righteo? because it answers your question quite precisely. Expensive oil increases the DIFFERENTIAL profit of what they currently call the weapondollar-petrodollar core, or something - like james petras, they are constantly inventing new names for this thing but it is a complete sector of the US economy in its own right, not a conspiracy.


Gravatar in the 1980s, the Reagan administration was so reluctant to confront Pakistan about its nuclear weapons program that Richard Perle, then assistant secretary at the pentagon, referred to its pronouncements as "démarche-mallows".


Gravatar In any bondage scenario, the intensity of power, its maintenance, adjustment and control is made much easier if the captive is wretched, ignorant, needy, frightened and stupid, i.e., an average American.

Within the framework of that interest, they are doing a bang up job.


Gravatar clark and levy, the authors of the book about the pakistani nuclear weapons program that I am quoting:
http://www.clarkandlevy.com


Gravatar 9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Everyone American Needs to Read This Book! (or One Like It),


Biography of the Dollar

http://www.amazon.com/review/ pro...howViewpoints=1


Gravatar The general direction that Clark and Levy are moving in seems to be to exonerate Israel and the zionists altogether - it isn't just that Richard Perle demonstrated an unexpected aptitude for puns.

But obviously NOW we have a zionist faction in bed with the successors of the Reaganites, and equally committed to keeping the Pakistani eggs in the air.


Gravatar it's a Zionist/big oil coalition alright, with the dynamic impulse
such that it is provided by Jews.

those who say ruling elites anytime, anywhere in history are always inevitably "economic men"
motivated only by material gain
misread human nature.


Gravatar They also misread inhuman nature..


Gravatar Glenda, you have pretty much hit the nail on the head. Going over the Project for a New American Century, I read into the Neo-Conservative oil wars as an economic, more than a social objective.
Cheney's mark is all over those pages. The fact he wants to replace Bush with another inept , plain spoken man, like McCain, should be pretty damn obvious. As a conservative speaker once remarked, "In America we don't need experts; we use common sense." Uh, yeah, right.

It is these kinds of anti-intelligence/ anti-intellectuals running through American life that explains much of the Bush phenomenon. And will no doubt continue for years to come, until you reach Cheney&Friends key strategic projects in the oil lands.
(By the way, they ,Cheney&Friends, plan on taking on cyberspace "infosphere", as they find it difficult to exert global political leadership.


Gravatar Left-liberals, Neolibs, Neocons and the Christian Right all have demonstrated a willingness to fight "Wars For The Jews." The "isolationist" Right isn't isolationist at all; that's a slur invented by the Neocons. It is pro trade, but between private parties, not government coerced/enforced/overseen, which is why left-liberals also object to it.

Pat Buchanan was way out in front of the opposition to fighting "Wars For The Jews," even way back when left-liberals were smearing him as an anti-Semite for being so.

Left-liberals who collaborated with Jewish ideologues for so many years are hardly in a position to complain that they are recently being burned by their Faustian bargain.

Give the "isolationists" credit, for they have been right for decades; the left-liberals have been negligent for decades, but now profess to be the voice of wisdom. Any movement that will fall for organized Jewry's scam under its left-wing guise is perfectly capable of being scammed again once the chameleon changes its colors back.


Gravatar to Jews, money without power is like sex restricted by condom, there is no great pleasure spending it in a prosperous society like Switzerland, where everyone can afford good, healthy life.

They like to wallow in the misery of the oppressed and helpless, thus Palestine.

It would surprise me if there wasn't a secret IDF maintained website where the initiates can stalk and kill Palestinians online with a squeeze of joystick, with help of Predators and camera-equipped, tripod mounted sniper rifles.
The essence of Talmud, as every good Jew knows.


Gravatar I think America needs to face up to it's own problems at home. But, that would mean less money for wars of conquest.. I mean, "liberation".

When the upper White /Middle Classes start to turn on the current (hi-jacked) Administration, and I mean do more than just bitch and moan and actually step up to the plate, then the Neo-Con's will show their true colors.


Gravatar yes, I left out the fact that American Conservative has published many "isolationist" pieces attributed even pre-war,the coming Iraq War's possible fruition largely to the Zionist Lobby. Buchanan's "Whose War" for example.


Gravatar Didn't the Swiss just do a deal with Iran angering Israel?


Gravatar indeed ken:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...ges/ 966017.html


Gravatar Isreal's angrwy?
Uh - oh, uh - oh.
Guess the America christian will be strapping on his boots and grabbing his guns and heading for the land of hot chocolate.

Keep your eye's open, Swiss Miss.

Nothing worse than God's kids when they gets angry. Stamping feets and telling Jesus to take his "love thy brother" and "turn the other cheek" and stick it.


Gravatar the problem for zionism is that it has made itself to an increasing extent unnecessary, by reason of its very success in spearheading the anti-communist effort all over the place. there are now no real communists left to be anti, so the system is attacking itself.


Gravatar "PIEDMONT, Mo. - Residents of low-lying towns stacked sandbags or grabbed belongings and evacuated Wednesday after a foot of rain pushed rivers and creeks out of their banks in the nation's midsection. At least 11 deaths had been linked to the weather, and four people were missing.
Record or near-record flood crests were forecast at several towns in Missouri. Flooding was reported in large areas of Arkansas and parts of southern Illinois, southern Indiana and southwestern Ohio, and schools were closed in parts of western Kentucky because of flooded roads"

well, either little god is angry because amurderka is tardy shaking, rattling, and booming iran to show its fealty to the shit one or alQ, midamerica branch, is expressing its hatred of our values.


Gravatar When is the book coming out. Sick of you indexlessness hypo-links.


Gravatar Left liberals, collection of ass munched, shrunken, rinse cycle ineffectual reptile twat juice cunts.


Gravatar Whatever happened to Iran's Oil Bourse? Meanwhile Dubai has been running one for the past 9 months, denominated in who knows what (maybe USD as no-one has been threatening to nuke them).

From Xym.'s link to Amconmag:
---

Another indication of the shift in power can be seen by looking at the new the Dubai Mercantile Exchange, which last June began trading the Oman Crude Oil Futures Contract. By getting into the energy futures business, Dubai is assuring that the crude oil coming out of the Persian Gulf has its own benchmark price—one that is not reliant on Western crude oil standards such as West Texas Intermediate and North Sea Brent. It also puts Dubai in competition with the traditional trading hubs in New York and London. In July 2006, Gary King, the CEO of the Dubai exchange, told me that the emergence of the exchange and the new futures contract indicates that the Persian Gulf is “the center of the world’s biggest hydrocarbon province. Most of the growth in oil consumption is in Asia-Pacific. So it’s a natural shift in gravity. Our timing is very opportune to be in that center of gravity.”

This change cannot be stopped or ignored. (...)


Gravatar Arthur C Clark's chryogenically frozen body is dead and the Kremlin is still bugged.

12 million ducks gone, how? They were all listed in the phonebook quite precariously.
McDonald's serves communist meats with shit in the mustard. The big and tasty is moose. The regular hamburger is horse surrounded by a ring of lynx.

Her's ma' rules guys, if'n y'have no kills and keep it that way--yer' free to go. If you come out and write a book in one year I don't think there would be any problems. Thou shalt not kill--done.

There is one communist at Haloscan making sure that when you write and try to go back it erases it destroying the letters--lke tis eh? Neat. You're an ass-hole--I know you haaaaaaaave to dooo it waaaaah--I've heard that before a few times. Doin' a little favor--"i um can erase the letters how's that?" Cry do. Baltimore, what's in Baltimore now? We're trying to make it what now? Ooooh interesting nix nix nix. Have you ever seen the inside of a trashbag--screw it I'm off.

BYE


Gravatar What am I going to find in Baltimore? Cuz i know for a fact poooty-poot's double sent you not the real guy.

So what am I going to find in Baltimore now? Hmm Russians? What am I going to find guy--huh? Norville's coming now to make an inspection--look into your mind and see it, it's on.

I love Maryland, don't fuck with it.


Gravatar Type all day human scum. With one word here your shit house comes down. Go back to the exiled 2 Ronnie game show - haggis.


Gravatar hog barn twatage.


Gravatar Somnambulist dear jew in France--three kills, toddlers. Thought I'd never find ye'. Josh, who's Josh?


Gravatar Emery.


Gravatar Angels with Even Filthier Souls.

O'Sullivan quits as Ireland coach.

Last Saturday's 33-10 defeat by England sealed a poor championship for Ireland and signalled the end for O'Sullivan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/...ish/ 7306032.stm


Gravatar please take your drunken rugby match elsewhere.


Gravatar God bless.


Gravatar just trying to scramble the discourse whatever it was, can't remember - oh yes, Polish edition of Anne Frank , heartwrenching, I tell you just heartwrenching.
Can't wait for the Moldavian edition, I suspect it will be heartwrenching.


Gravatar Today's Palestinian Anna Miriam Ali Frank version is heartwrenching. Time also for the truly heartwrenching Rachel Anna Frank Corrie tale. Snipers & bulldozers compete with typhus to pluck young women's life in the bud.


Gravatar not me above complaining about drunken rugby matches.

this is funny in an infuriating way : given the nonsensical nature of the material supposedly found on the dead FARC man, Rayes', computer, the journalists are now pretending not that the laptop was completely faked, but that FARC were completely stupid.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/a.../517318036/ 1003


Gravatar righteo, Annafrank's lawyers will serve you with litigation papers, cease and desist, for trespassing the sacred turf.

http://www.heartwrenching.com/
has room for only one undead who rises on the night of the Oscars.


Gravatar FED Board of Governors / appointed by

•Ben Bernanke, February 1, 2006 (appt. Gov. August 5, 2002), Bush
•Donald Kohn, August 5, 2002, Bush
•Kevin Warsh, February 24, 2006, Bush
•Randall Kroszner, March 1, 2006, Bush
•Frederic Mishkin, March 1, 2006, Bush

District Bank Presidents
•Boston: Eric: Rosengren, July 23, 2007, Bush
•New York: Timothy Geithner, November 20, 2003, Bush
•Philadelphia: Charles Plosser, August 1, 2006, Bush
•Cleveland: Sandra Pianalto, February 1, 2003, Bush
•Richmond: Jeffrey Lacker, August 1, 2004, Bush
•Atlanta: Dennis Lockhart, March 1, 2007, Bush
•Chicago: Charles Evans, September 1, 2007, Bush
•St. Louis: William Poole, March 23, 1998, Clinton
•Minneapolis: Gary Stern, March 16, 1985, Reagan
•Kansas City: Thomas Hoenig, October 1, 1991, Bush I
•Dallas: Richard Fisher, April 4, 2005, Bush
•San Francisco: Janet L. Yellen, June 14, 2004, Bush

http://www.federalreserve.gov/ab...ard/ default.htm


Gravatar Nicely written. America hasn't lost it's identity so much as it it just gave it away. It's education system has hit rock bottom (no sense wasting learning on a society filled with easily terrified christian lemmings and lazy overprotected wussified American brains) and is getting bled dry by private military contractors. Even the media can't be bothered to speak of the KBR scandals and war profiteering going on. Simply because America has been conditioned to believe it is good that contracts have quadrupled to 100billion dollars from 23 in four years, means Al-Ciada is on the run. It can't do anything to stop this monster.

America has to crash {hard} to save itself from itself.

Only thing is, Canadians are starting to wonder how far off the deep end you shitheads have gone that you might try to take us down with you.

Just kidding about the "shitheads" part. Seriously, you guys, from one friend to another, you guys are so privatized you have to bribe your own government to tell you nice lies. Then you run back with them and hide in your corners.

I saw protestors out on the front of the Whitehouse, all retired or former military people. What the fuck are you young sucks doing?


Gravatar I keep finding alot of the same names up on these blogs. You have to get out into the real world one of these day's. And if any of you are of age, Well, I got a feeling Cheney is doing the rounds for a reason. Dragging McCain along , since they promised him the Presidency if he stepped off to the side to let George finish up a second tour (don't mean they are gonna give it to him though) Anyway, that fat fuck Cheney never strays more than a couple feet from the BigHouse, if he can help it. So I'm betting he and his buddies plan on cranking up the old draft boards really, really soon. Then you can put down your weekend warrior games , crawl out of mommy and dadda's basement and see where and just how far your self-satisfaction got you by sticking it to the man with your keypads. Yeah, go get'em hippies!!


Gravatar Easter always falls on the first Sunday after the first full moon following the Spring equinox. This equinox occurs when the day and night are of equal length, which is today — and the full moon is tomorrow.

If the first full moon lands on a Sunday, then Easter Day is the first Sunday afterwards. The formula was decided after much controversy among early Christians at the Council of Nicea in 325.

The festival cannot fall earlier than March 22 or later than April 25. The next time it will be as early as this year will be 2228. The last time was 95 years ago.


Gravatar You know what the "young sucks" are doing. They are standing behind CNN people and making creepy smiles towards the camera's. Seriously, these chicks were standing behind Anderson Cooper, and they smiled like they were trying to be seductive but made my skin crawl. These are America's youth of today?!
Oh, man, you need an excorcism, America.


Gravatar What if you had a liability/asset ratio of 74:1, and your liabilities exceeded US$ 91 trillion? Well that would qualify you as a bona fide recipient of US$ 30 Billion in taxpayer money to write off the debts of an insolvent investment bank (Bear Stearns) and buy it for derisory US$ 200 million.

Isn't "capitalism" wonderful? Any similarities with comunism's direct theft modus operandi, main characters, ideological totalitarianism, inter alia, is mere coincidence.

LEGAL INSIDER TRADING BROUGHT TO YOU BY JP MORGAN AND THE SEC
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi...cgi? read=120862


Gravatar lobro you old devil there's no server to be found for http://www.heartwrenching.com/
;=)


Gravatar If you control a resource you can increase or decrease the supply at will.
We usually think of resource control being about getting more of something.
But decreasing supply can be an effective projection of power.
Say, for example, you had control of Iraq and Saudi Arabia and Iran and Afghanistan and Iran and and...
You could make damn sure you didn't have to suffer the ignominy of $12/barrel oil ever again.


Gravatar The draft as an imperative if America/Israel are to continue dominating the M.E. is being floated more aggressively now. The ruling elite's measure of desperation will be guaged according to whether they dare risk tearing society apart thusly, and if their arrogance/inpetitude in going in to Iraq is any harbinger, prepare for mass civil disobedience, race and class conflict, etc.

Call it isolationist blowback.


Gravatar the nazis shut it down, dammit!

Server has been gassed

Firefox can't find the server at http://www.heartwrenching.com/


Gravatar Didn't the Swiss just do a deal with Iran angering Israel?
Ken Hoop | 03.19.08 - 3:22 pm |


from whatreallyhappened.com

US launches legal review of Swiss-Iran gas deal
The United States on Wednesday warned that it was launching a legal review of a gas deal signed earlier this week between Iran and Switzerland to see whether it violates terms of US sanctions.
Posted Mar 20, 2008 08:45 AM PST
Category: IRAN

"Oh my GAWD, those darned Eye-ranians are acquiring cheese, chocolate, and cuckoo clocks!!!!!" -- Official White Horse Souse


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/ 0..._us_sanctions_1


Gravatar According to Good-Friday listening to Parzifal today
(beginnung/ Bayreuth)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x...h? v=x_hqsavWCZw
ore more from "WagnerOperas" (in pieces)


Gravatar overture would be this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=7...feature=related


Gravatar Christus/ Draeseke.


Gravatar also from Bayreuth (1981)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W...m4-QBji3fA& NR=1
another piece with english subtitles


Gravatar thanks, (almost forgot) Draeseke - great - sonatas,.. and the Nr.3 tragica
http://www.draeseke.org/mp3clips.htm
mp3 clips


Gravatar thanks for Draeseke links, Ken and Fritz.
This guy sure sounds a lot like Brahms.
Happy Easter.


Gravatar To all.


Gravatar Happy Easter!
(seen it on the list: Christus by Draeseke. should get it soon. strange that he is almost forgotten.


Gravatar both are forgotten ...


Gravatar Oh I found the record, but a bit expensive, na ja prob. worth it - church-music is the finest no matter what someone believes, so maybe later.
Faust (Goethe) was saved by the sound of the Easter bells from poisoning himself, but he then later signed the pact with Mephisto. So I'll sign nothing like that.




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