Here's another scenario: Ron Paul who is the only other Republican still in the race, beats McCain at the Republican convention at Minneapolis in September.

This campaign strategy is premised on the Romney & Huckabee delegates refusing to back McCain on the grounds that they loathe & detest the man, and so migrate to Paul. Many of them are actually Paul supporters who won delegate status in their various precincts and were pledged to the other local winners that have since dropped out. No one knows how Minneapolis will turn out at this stage.

Although Paul & McCain are the same age, Paul is in better physical & mental shape than McCain, who some suggest is in early Alzheimer's dementia.

After that, Paul has to beat the Democrat nominee, and truth be told, the Dem turnout will probably exceed the Rep turnout 3 to 1.

This race is for the Democrats to lose, meaning, they're meant to win.


That said, Xym., I doubt that Hillary would defect to the Republicans, even to run as McCain's VP. Joe Lieberman, having tried with Gore in 2000, acts as if he has first dibs at VP with McCain.

If you're floating a McCain-Hillary ticket, Xym., how about Hillary-Lieberman for the Republicans, if they don't get the Democrat nod?


Gravatar McCain-Lieberman is a terrifying thought.


Gravatar Quote of the year!

When I think about Obama, I think about the Roman Empire, how the Romans, when the empire was on the decline, chose some of the assimilated bright ones from amongst the barbarians to help save it. People who had been formerly cast as barbarians: Germans.
http://goatmilk.wordpress.com/20...ockout-punches/


Gravatar well, it makes more sense if you include the next paragraph too:

So, there might be an accommodation. They might want to enlist the bright ones from among what they consider to be the American barbarian population- people like Gates and Obama to save the empire. But the racist attitudes of some elements in the White working class, and these White trash gangsters Ma and Pa Clinton are getting in the way. Because they can’t fight ‘em all. They can’t fight all Blacks in this country, they can’t fight Mexican Americans – they’re more worried about them then they are worried about us because their birth rates are going through the roof and about to overtake both the Black and White populations. They can’t fight what they call Islamo-fascists. So, there has to be an accommodation, some kind of deal made. Obama is the ticket, but these ignorant fools led by people like Rush Limbaugh can’t see a good thing when it’s right there in front of their eyes...


Gravatar Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.13.08 - 6:32 am |

Thanks


Gravatar In Missisippi, apparently, you can have the two races attending the same school in equal numbers, and glowering at each other all day without ever exchanging a word. This was amusingly described to me by a Chinese guy who was the only outsider there.


Gravatar Obama is in. The white working class boys I know can't stand Hillary and they think McCain is crazy.

Smek, how old was the chinese guy?


Gravatar Uh, I think McCain is going to have a hard enough time appealing to the Republican base as it is without Hillary as a running mate, so I doubt he'd want much to do with her, even if she wanted to run with him, which I also doubt. Your theory that she'd want Obama to lose so she could take another shot at the nomination in 2012 is more likely.


Gravatar Laurie | 03.13.08 - 7:08 am |

Why do you support Obama?


Gravatar There's an interesting piece here about McCain's problems with the so-called christian right:
http://www.motherjones.com/washi...tual- guide.html

Mother Jones is a very New York Jewish organ (despite its name) but I completely agree with the analysis in th earticle, which is that McCain is frightened of people like Hagee.


Gravatar I've always anticipated McCain-Lieberman, but McCain-Bloomberg is starting to look like a possibility.

All this theorizing is superfluous, both Hillary and Obama are unelectable, Hillary somewhat more so.


Gravatar Yep it's too crazy.

There are too many blue people who would never vote red. A Black and white choice is rhetoric. Gray is a figment of the imagination.

It all shakes down to a red or a blue vote, and as of now there is a bigger blue popular vote.

It's showtime for Hillary. Now or never on the blue ticket.

What might not be "too crazy" as improbable as it looks at the moment is an Obama/Clinton ticket.

aaarrgg! That would make the fat lady sing.


Gravatar Born about 1982.


Gravatar OK, now, why should McCain be frightened of people like Hagee? Why should he prefer the completely wimpish Parsley?

It can only be because Hagee is considered liable to go off into "anti-Semitic rants" at the drop of a hat, and Parsley, not.


Gravatar What makes this super interesting is that they are still dependent on Hagee in that he created CUFI, by using the "anti-Semitic rants".


Gravatar Obama-Clinton could be a replay of Kennedy-Johnson. We know how that ended. An ambitious, greedy, resentful VP is an occupational hazard to an ambitious Prez.

When the Prez is a lazy hack, Cheney redefined the VP role. Could Clinton play Cheney to Obama's Bush? Depends how ambitious & hardworking Obama is. He would have to out do Bush, just on the law of averages.

Hmmm, Clinton could be an occupational hazard if Obama insists on total executive control.


Gravatar All assumptions being moot if Bush bombs Iran..


Gravatar Anonymous | 03.13.08 - 7:58 am - Because I think he still has a conscious and the other ones don't.

There are whites that will vote against him only because he's black but there are probably not as many of them as there are blacks who will vote for him only because he's black. In Obamas's favor are: 1) all those people that by voting for him will prove to themselves they are not racist. 2) all those people voting against Hillary. 3) all those people voting against the war. 4) all those people voting out white control and if Hillary or McCain run will a jew 5) all those people who support Palestine and don't fall into any of the other 4 categories. I don't think anti-semitism would be much of a factor at all.


Gravatar All these folks that are paranoid at the world, folks come and scream at me everywhere...

-- bill clinton, in Erie, Pennsylvania


Gravatar Imagine that, people whose jobs were exported for the global good.


Gravatar Why Hillary will not be President
http://upload.wikimedia.org/ wiki...laryandsuha.jpg

Those who read Walt & Mearsheimer (The Israel Lobby) will recall the paragraph on Hillary Clinton and the Lobby, where the Lobby never forgot the kiss.


Gravatar Taxes, why do you think Obama isn't electable?


Gravatar I don't agree that hillary's kiss of suha arafat is a no-no for 'the jews' (by which we can all agree to mean here the power brokers). hillary has been 'an errant lamb restored to the fold' for a couple of years, as could have been detected from a spate of extraordinarily gushing articles in the JPost at the time. You know how much 'they' like to exploit sentimentality, and guilt too.


Gravatar I still see (in my crystal ball) the Bonesmen putting Obama in his "proper place" under Clinton on the ticket. They will promise him the moon... (or maybe Mars) if he will take the VP and they will commit to help him change the world in 4-8 years. (what is left of it)

Carefully word the promise so it goes something like... Hillary will not seek re-election in 2012 IF her approval ratings are below... say 49%.

Otherwise things get bloody.


Gravatar Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.13.08 - 11:26 am |

I disagree. She is in a disparate situation and it is not only about the kiss, but also Bill Clinton refused to go war in Iraq, so they can't trust her 100%.

That is way her only option left is racist slur campaign.


Gravatar "why"


Gravatar there is another explanation for the racist slur campaign, namely, that her instructions are to ruin the entire democratic party presidential campaign and throw the election.


Gravatar why do you say bill clinton refused to go to war with iraq? refused whom?


Gravatar She is still married to Bill, "I'll grab a rifle and jump into a foxhole to defend Israel with my life," Clinton and that must count for something.


Gravatar I doubt there is any question that the Lobby would rather have Hillary as their expensive call girl.


Gravatar I would question that they want her as a call girl. I think they want her as a mediatic presence (not necessarily president or vice president - mccain and lieberman would get them directly to heaven with massive force).


Gravatar They had no luck to sell clean break report. The only offer Bill Clinton could give them was no flight zones in Iraq.

Can't cite from the book (The Israel Lobby)since I don't have it with me.


Gravatar But "going direct" is an unrealistic long range expectation. In the meantime...


Gravatar ... or meanwhile, back a the chicken ranch.


Gravatar ok, anonymous, i knew you meant 'the neocons' or some rather convenient abstraction like that. You see, the problem with creating any sort of generalised abstract entity at all is that it becomes so much easier to make tendentious statements about it - you don't have to say "Mr. X asked Clinton to attack Iraq and he said no." I do have the Walt & Mearsheimer book, and I have read it, but I don't recall any useful names and dates for this.


Gravatar Yes, you were right "the neocons",

but as the book says, the Lobby did not opposed the war.
ok, I shall say no more until I get the exact pages on Hillary's kiss and Bill Clinton's refusal.


Gravatar I agree that an element in the sentimental embrace of Hillary by the JPost and its pundits was to punish bill (not that they give a damn about marital ethics, it is just useful schmalz).


Gravatar equally, I suppose, the question of whether they 'trust' hillary or not is a non-question really, just another narrative sub-plot in the never ending soap opera.


Gravatar The tendency to form superficial and reactionary impressions after watching "The Century Of The Self" is clearly alive and well :

The international bankers wanted to grab the USA Central Bank since Independence Day. By early 1900’s the bankers thought it was their time; their prelude was a recession that they artificially created in 1905. On one side the media establishment bombarded the masses with the notion that government was not efficient and experienced enough for the administration of the economy and finance of the country. They claimed that some banks were going belly up and people were losing their savings, etc. The bankers and corporations were using the media as PR to manipulate the masses abusing FREUD’S PSYCHOANALYSIS THEORY by creating insecurity and economic fears. The concept of women liberation was limited to smoke in public; excluded were the fundamental rights to education and vote. People’s personality and character was supposed to be reflected in their taste, photogenic postures, the use of luxurious cars and sexy women around; their intellectual and education achievements did not count and USA ended up with some donkeys as presidents. On the other hand the international bankers like Rockefeller funded $5 MILLIONS for “academics research” in the areas of better government and banking efficiencies...
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/159033


Gravatar Kaveh L Afrasiabi seems to agree with the view that 'Israel' can send the USA to war with Iran whenever it wants, whoever is presnit:
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_...t/ JC14Ak02.html


Gravatar Joachim Martillo resolves the Mark Steyn question. Some time ago a troll appeared on this board claiming that Steyn is not jewish. Here's what Joachim has to say:

Mark Steyn, who is a Canadian political commentator of mixed Jewish ethnic Ashkenazi and Catholic Belgian ancestry, who is frequently published in the Spectator and the Telegraph, and who is often associated with Jewish Neoconservatism, has already somewhat obliquely opened up the discussion of genociding Western Muslims in his recently published book America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It

http://eaazi.blogspot.com/2008/ 0...difference.html

interesting comments at the link


Gravatar Laurie | 03.13.08 - 11:11 am | #

Since 1960 the Dems have only won--and can only win--with a southerner heading the ticket. If they had wanted to win they would have picked Edwards.


Gravatar You know the chinese air hijack terrorism scare? it was a uyghur lass trying to set off a molotov cocktail in the airplane toilet:
http://atimes.com/atimes/China/J...a/ JC14Ad01.html


Gravatar Shimon Peres - the hits just keep coming with this critter. At least he's lost all attempts at appearing a dove to European ears.

According to the above mentioned creep Iran wants Syria as part of it's hegemonic thrust in the ME...

http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=82097


Gravatar By November the US economy will probably be in so parlous a state that the Democrats could nominate a black Muslim lesbian and win.


Gravatar If you remove the artful elipses provided by the sympathetic journalists, you find that the inimitable rice recently said this:

While I would be the last to say that there has been anything like the kind of progress that I think we will need, they will need, to see, frankly, for their own good as well as the good of the world as a whole, there are discussions that are ongoing, and they do provide a mechanism by which we can monitor and then take what we know to the Saudis for discussion. This is a very high priority.


Gravatar http://www.samefacts.com/ archive...ticket_dept.php

McCain/Hillary ticket gains ground, campaign button available (link)


Gravatar The racial eruptions coming from Democrats are a result of their anger and disbelief that 100% of their "faithful" black companions have jumped ship to support an obviously underqualified black candidate. Everyone knows that Ferrarro's comments are true and she speaks from pure anger and frustration, no conspiracy required to explain it. What happened to that wonderful colorblind society we built over the last 50 years she's thinking. What about us womyn? How could you diss us so completely after all we've done for blacks. Talk about white supremecy. Sheesh.

The Clinton camp is dumbfounded by the racial solidarity of blacks and the hordes of whites rushing to vote for a black man so they can prove they aren't racist. Anyone who has an honest assessment of race in the US is not surprise at all at this, to see their "race doesn't exist anymore" myth implode in their face. The only persons who have been successfully deracinated are whites, and watching them swoon over an articulate black man is pure slapstick.

To say that whites will be disillusioned by an Obama is an understatement. They can finally say to themselves their country is NOT racist. And they may finally discover that their concessions mean nothing to blacks, who will continue to wage a racial cold war against whites, continue to blame whites for their failing, continue to demand more transfer of largess from whites to blacks, ongoing ad naseum, until yes, like our other "friends", they will go too far and provoke a natural reaction among whites.

A few more elections cycles and America may be ready for a candidate that appeals directly to white racial interests. Much more pain, suffering and abuse are required though and that's exactly what's on the menu in the post-modern west. Interesting times indeed.


Gravatar Xymphora--I'm some nut--correct answer. Mucho gracias--they're screwed for it. That was Israel (out of Germany), the pussies. See what I mean about 'that's all they have? Mossad is nothing but a bunch of kids with pushbrooms doing public service and little more than that. George Bush senior (God bless him) set 'em that way and that's the way they're kept. Those weren't big dogs, couldn't be.

What they want to know is this "Minotaur" su[pposed phenomenon(it's weird, including the name which is so miscelaneous), it's more or less a system or whatever. See it's an identifier, the people hit are made sick and when "oot and aboot" they are easy to tag being that they have all the lax smoked symptoms right there front and center. They are picked up and questioned with little fight and so on and so on. I have three to five "splitters" working on call all the time, 24 hours a day--and there's the mystery.

I give you the mark of the beast and "they" (not talking) finish up the job by making the capture. "They" take you (not you ofcourse--the marked person themselves). These people deserve it 100% and more importantly we don't hit anyone but killers and the worst killers, child killers, eaters, corporate killers, mengela surgeons in foreign countries, human leather people, Fake Red Cross people, death camp workers and junkie weirdos so strange and perverted you wish they were dead and off this blue marble entirely. These people are the enforcers of a whacko anti-business system so bloody horrible it's a thousand nightmares each of them with the things they've done to people for nothing. This is the only way to take them out--you can't have standard warfare, it just wouldn't work. That's the mystery and we are not done.

"We" (umm sort of speaking hypothetically here) can shuffle cards so crazy they stay shuffled forever. The soviets are concerned and we don't care about them, do as thou wilst--who gives a fuck, I want those evil sicko shits I'm looking for off the globe. Can you imagine killing an innocent infant or kid in front of someone to silence them or for the purpose of taking their company or whatever? See what I mean? Those are the types I want not communists in the theoretical sense per se or for that matter honey bees deliberating the UN or something.

We do what we do by a simple protocol, we, we being "splitters" get rid of the worst must haneous things you can imagine existing--and they do, that's it--all to make a friendlier globe hopefully. You cannot go out and kill entire nations of peaceful civilians, erasing generations of civil populations indigenous to their countries just because you want something political to surface and need a population out of the way to do it--whatever that might be. I want you eating shit in a tank and that's it.

So there's the mystery and I'm just some nut--fan-fuckin-tastic. And quit this whole "minotaur" thing, it's trite. Replace the word "Minotaur" w


Gravatar ...REPLACE THE WORD "MINOTAUR" WITH "NORVILLE". Sorry my last sentence in the paragraph got cut off.

Bye.


Gravatar "Norville"--correct.


Gravatar righteo | 03.13.08 - 5:56 am

Jeez. I like Paul, but now I see why you entertain so many of the Skunk's "fantasies."


Gravatar shmuel rosner in haaretz makes the obvious point that if the US mediator puts any real pressure in Israel at the roadmap meeting tomorrow the govt will fall.

but the CIA would be quite happy to topple all Israel's political parties and stage a military coup in Israel, I should think - they've had enough practice everywhere else.


Gravatar If Hagee says a sizeable minority of Jews will convert to Christ when He comes again to war for Israel and against its opponents, with the rest being destroyed, he's still not objectively "anti-semitic." Ask
Netanyahu.


Gravatar A conscious or a conscience, Laurie?


Gravatar Suha remained a Christian, didn't she?


Gravatar I believe she did, and may have remarried.
http://www.ynetnews.com/ articles...3292237,00.html
"Suha Arafat marries

According to rumors, Yasser Arafat's widow marries Tunisian president's brother-in-law, who was supposed to marry her sister, but chose Suha due to her large fortune"


Gravatar haha ken, they say yanks don't do irony.

As for Paul getting up, well, who knows. This economic meltdown coming down the pike is going to change the scenery quite a bit, and it is Paul's special interest, not that he can reverse it, but he's been predicting it, so he would be an excellent guy to help pick up the pieces.

Come to think of it, Xym.'s suggestion of a McCain-Clinton ticket might get traction as a bipartisan way to ride the economic storm. Not that they can change it, but if there is a Plan to rearrange the Western world economies after the collapse (as the conspiracy crowd reckon), they might be its obedient executors. We shall see what we shall see.


Gravatar http://jpundit.typepad.com/jci/ 2...ria_and_jo.html

Steyn says he's not Jewish. He called Iraq a "success story" after predicting there would be no insurgency, so he's in thorough disrepute.


Gravatar Sorry for above, she did convert to Islam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suha_Arafat

Note also her losing Tunisian citizenship in 2007 "due to disputes with her business partners" which makes the above News Item more interesting. Or the note that the Plaestinain president contro;s more than $4 billion in slush accounts, and her 22 million a year allowance.
Poor palestine, to be led by such poltroons.


Gravatar travis bickle | Homepage | 03.13.08 - 2:06 pm

Did you note all the bewildered white women in those battered women's shelters when OJ's innocent verdict was declared? They bewildered by the verdict, yes, but more by the battered black women sitting in the same shelters clapping.


Gravatar Zionazis feel shame and try to project it?
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Israeli MPs to boycott Merkel speech

Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, will face empty seats during her address to the Israeli parliament next week, after a legislator said he would rather boycott the speech than listen to the language of the Nazis.

Mrs Merkel was given special dispensation to address parliamentarians during an official visit on Tuesday.

The honour is usually reserved for presidents and monarchs.


From:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/.../ wisrael113.xml


Gravatar Smells like another shakedown, righteo. Hard to feel sorry for the Germans, though. Even though a people defeated in war may not deserve the government that has been foisted on it, a people suffering from stockholm syndrome -aka, national masochism- certainly deserves all that comes its way, including self-destruction.


Gravatar Fit meets shan dept.
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Killer fungus spells disaster for wheat

Eurekalert (New Scientist), March 12
A WHEAT disease that could destroy most of the world’s main wheat crops could strike south Asia’s vast wheat fields two years earlier than research had suggested, leaving millions to starve. The fungus, called Ug99, has spread from Africa to Iran, and may already be in Pakistan. If so, this is extremely bad news, as Pakistan is not only critically reliant on its wheat crop, it is also the gateway to the Asian breadbasket, including the vital Punjab region.


More:
http://agonist.org/20080313/ scie...f_wheat_disease


Gravatar Xenophile, what can one say? The whole thing is a travesty.


Gravatar "On February 26, McCain appeared at a campaign rally in Cincinnati with the Reverend Rod Parsley of the World Harvest Church of Columbus, a supersize Pentecostal institution that features a 5,200-seat sanctuary, a television studio (where Parsley tapes a weekly show), and a 122,000-square-foot Ministry Activity Center"

america the colossal: factory size chicken coops, industrial pig stys, shit-urine lakes, behemoth churches. mammoth dept of civilian slaughter called the pentagon/hexagon. boundless, endless liars the world has not before experienced.

jefferson, madison and god look in wonderment at what greed has wrought.

ashkenazi jews. ashkenazi christians.

jewcon s. a.


Gravatar Ken Hoop | 03.13.08 - 3:03 pm - I wish I could say I did it on purpose, but I can't spell worth a damn. If it sounds right when I say it in my head, I go with it. I do like the irony though.

No Xeno, the Germans don't deserve what they are getting. You can't expect an emotionally battered person/country to even understand what self respect is. And unfortunately I think your answer speaks to my point.


Gravatar "To quote none other than scumbag Republican media consultant Alex Castellanos, who gets it in a way that scumbag Hillary consultant Mark Penn does not:
"If the Clinton people knee-cap Obama, it would be like killing Santa Claus Xmas morning in front of the children. The children won't forget or forgive."
(Courtesy of Tom Edsall and Real Clear Politics.)"


Gravatar "How's Hillary going to get her $5 million loan back?"

"apparently all you need is to give Hillary your VISA card. Apparently it is like an ATM. They keep charging whether you know it or not.

Pretty sad really - check it out:
http://bluejersey.com/showDiary....8C? diaryId=7104
"I voluntarily left the Hillary Finance Committee after I discovered more than $3,000 in unauthorized charges from HRC campaign on my own VISA card! And that set off a wave of overdrafts and $400 in bank charges that I was stuck with. And the compliance officer Allison Wright at Hillary VA headquarters refused to reimburse me for the charges. And the senior finance reps who I notified about more than $3,000 in unauthorized Visa Charges never once aplogized or empathized with my plight, much less sent me a "sorry for all the trouble" note and a check!

Unbelievably, it took me more than a month of pleading and begging via email to get the money back. I was told verbatim:

"Kathy Callahan, you are going to be with us all the way to the White House...So let's leave the money where it is and we'll save time on inevitable future donations and transactions!"

Wow sounds more like Scientology to me.


Gravatar Did you note all the bewildered white women in those battered women's shelters when OJ's innocent verdict was declared? They bewildered by the verdict, yes, but more by the battered black women sitting in the same shelters clapping.
Ken Hoop | 03.13.08 - 3:26 pm | #


Black women are black first, women second.

I find it funny that xymph has to create a conspiracy to explain white liberal reaction to their race-free fairy tale imploding. If Hillary doesn't get the nomination this time, she's done.

She's not going to get a shot in 2012 because Obama will destroy McCain (unless they can pull an RFK or the joosmedia suddenly decides to give Larry Sinclair's sordid affair with Obama prime time coverage). On a side note, I listened to Larry Sinclair interview with jeff rense and he comes across as a very credible witness. Take a listen for yourself. My built-in BS detector says he's telling the truth. But of course, the truth is whatever the gate-keepers decide to broadcast from their satellites.

Back to Hillary, she can't handle the one-way racial street she helped pave and that's why she and her alcolytes have gone off script. They are getting flushed and their shrieking is pure natural terror at suddenly realzing they are irrelevant and her place in the sun is never going to happen. I can hear the Fleetwood Mac song now, its 1992...Don't stop thinkin bout tomorrow, don't stop, it'll soon be here..." its here baby, its here!


Gravatar http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2...,337715,00.html

I wonder how many Jews helped out on this one.


Gravatar http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/

See above link for secret plans to forcibly "transfer" (deport) all America's 5.5 million Jews to Israel!


Gravatar Too good to be true.


Gravatar Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, will face empty seats during her address to the Israeli parliament next week, after a legislator said he would rather boycott the speech than listen to the language of the Nazis.

Why not treat it as pidgin yiddish, everybody knows that German is plagiarized yiddish, which makes that legislator antisemitic, spank him with hundreds of thousands of children's shoes.


Gravatar if they want thousands of reparation payments they got to be fast:
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=774
Congressman Ron Paul (R-Texas) Warns of Worldwide Economic Collapse.
The following video is from C-SPAN’s Congress Coverage, broadcast on March 12, 2008


Gravatar sorry Xymph, but it's not about Hillarry, though NAFTA is coming also: END OF NATIONS - EU Takeover & the Lisbon Treaty (MOVIE) from Ireland: EU-Dictatorship enforced, Immigration destroying salaries, in Danmark you possibly can work for 45 cents:
We set out to make a video about the pros and cons of the Lisbon Treaty and found out to our horror the lies, manipulations and deceit behind the EU. From MEPs, legal experts and EU researches the true nature of the EU unfolded, how it really operates from behind closed doors and away from prying eyes. We discovered the massive power grab away from citizens and nations to the elites that is being proposed in this treaty. Most shocking of all was how our elected representatives are willingly handing us over to this emerging Totalitarian Superstate by deception , propaganda and outright lies. 1hrs 20min
http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=173
This video details how the structures of the EU really operate, what the full significance of the Lisbon Treaty is and how it is the end of Nations within in the EU. MEPs describe their experience in Brussels and how they are undermined by the real power of the unelected and unaccountable Eurocrats who run the organization. How the politicians are working together for their own selfish needs while being used for a bigger agenda.


Gravatar Unintended Ironies galore ... these two items are sitting atop one another in my Yahoo/Reuters stack:
Iraqi archbishop found dead, al Qaeda blamed and, ahem,
Anti-semitism on rise globally: State Department.

Hey Media, do your fukken job and explain to people that it is all al-Qaeda's fault!


Gravatar This Irish movie of course makes some historic comparisons, that are wrong, since A.Hitler didn't want to abolish the European nations, and it is the question if contemporary democracy has not fouled people into this superEU that in reality seems to be a colony of the empire now, NWO. and so on...


Gravatar One legislator - or possibly more - will be nobly absent when Angie addresses the malodorous knesset.
Lucky Angie.
The stench will be at least 1 % less intense.


Gravatar I listened to Larry Sinclair interview with jeff rense and he comes across as a very credible witness. Take a listen for yourself. My built-in BS detector says he's telling the truth.

Agreed, travis, I heard the three interviews with rense, and the guy comes across as very credible. Did you catch the bit where the church choirmaster (or similar) was gunned down on Christmas Day, quite possibly though not definitely as mistaken identity for larry sinclair?


Gravatar oh please. Is there something in the water over there that makes you crave garbage to believe?


Gravatar justin raimondo has some fun with the columbia laptop of death:

Here's a purported email from the slain FARC commander:

"6. The gringos will ask for an appointment with the minister to solicit him to communicate to us his interest in discussing these topics. They say that the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in your compatriots. Obama will not support ‘Plan Colombia' nor will he sign the TLC (Colombian Free Trade agreement). Here we responded that we are interested in relations with all governments in equality of conditions and that in the case of the US it is required a public pronouncement expressing their interest in talking with the FARC given their eternal war against us."

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/? a...articleid=12521


Gravatar apparently NATO is shelling villages on the Pakistani side of the Afghan border every two or three weeks now.

"This is not the first American attack in tribal areas. They carry out at least one such attack in every 15 to 20 days," a member of parliament from the tribal district, Kamran Khan, told the rally. "We condemn the killings of innocent people."


Gravatar Wash Times smears Fallon:

Current and former military officials welcomed the resignation of Navy Adm. William J. Fallon, the top U.S. military commander in the Middle East, saying he failed to prevent foreign fighters and munitions from entering Iraq. They said "there was no misperception" regarding Adm. Fallon's "non-warrior" approach to handling foreign involvement in the region. "The fact is that [Central Command] had the external responsibility to protect our troops in Iraq from the outside and under Fallon they failed to do it," said retired Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, a military analyst. "We have done nothing to protect our soldiers from external threats in Iraq." Others said Adm. Fallon was pushed to resign. "No matter what [Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates] said [Tuesday], we know for a fact Admiral Fallon was fired," said a former senior Defense official who works closely with military officials in the region. "We have kids — soldiers — getting killed because Iran, Syria and other foreign fighters are coming across the border into Iraq, and yet Fallon was unwilling to do anything to hold [those nations] accountable."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/a.../442198655/ 1002


Gravatar that second source is prolly bonkers bolton.


Gravatar eric margolis on India:

The Bush Administration is striving to conclude a deal to supply Delhi nuclear fuel, technology, and billions of high-tech weapons. Meanwhile, India is developing nuclear armed intercontinental ballistic missiles and sea launched strategic missiles that might one day pose a challenge to the United States. Why, no one in Washington is asking, does India need 7,000-mile range ICBM's, nuclear-powered missile submarines and powerful anti-ship missiles? Its current medium-range missiles cover all China. ICBM's are only needed by India to reach Europe, North America or Australia. India is unlikely to target Paris, London or Perth. But India will one day compete heavily with the US for Mideast oil, other resources and regional influence in the Gulf, Arabian Sea and even East Africa. China will inevitably join this strategic, three-way rivalry as Beijing and Delhi's economies and ambitions grow. Washington's helping India develop strategic nuclear weapons programmes will needlessly antagonise China.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/ Disp...ion_March35.xml


Gravatar Baitullah Mehsud is known to be a former inmate of the U.S. Guantanamo Bay prison who was released after interrogation.
http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=83805

MfA, can we declare Mehsud "al CIA-duh"?


Gravatar Hillary is reflecting the positon of
her sugar daddy Haim Saban, large contributor to her campaign as well as to the Democratic Party.
Saban, who says:I'm a one issue guy, and that issue is Israel", is also a huge fan of the Israeli Defense Forces. He gave the Friends Of the IDF over 3mill last April.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/ Sat...d=1173879238837
Probably, Saban and other rich Israel firsters think Obama's opportunistic support for Israel and a two state solution is not submissive enough to Israel's wishes.


Gravatar patrick byrne on short selling (lots of audio clips and slides):
http://www.deepcapturethemovie.com


Gravatar amira hass has a rather pointless article asking why the palestinian authority isn't more like mahatma gandhi:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa...ges/ 963931.html
i think this is hypocritical of her.


Gravatar Someone Else, you are going to have to get coding and have a turbo fitted if you want to keep up.

"...a synthetic character modeled by software running on the supercomputers will converse with the human-controlled avatars in a virtual world.
If the supercomputer can interact convincingly with the humans controlling the other avatars--that is, without them guessing the fraud--then the test will be judged a success.
... the brains of the algorithm running on the supercomputers will come from software called Rascals, for Rensselaer Advanced Synthetic Architecture for Living Systems."

http://www.eetimes.com/showArtic...06903246& pgno=2

Also, on blogs like this it is not polite to keep changing your name.
Learn some manners please.


Gravatar Paul Vallely, the retired Military Man who shills for the neocons and Fox news(sic), should not be taken as a representative of all militry folks.
What he is saying in the Washington Times and Fox News(sic), is entirely self serving.
Check out his neocons links and why he wants to have more American soldiers die fighting Israel's wars...
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/p...ofile/ 4584.html


Gravatar absolutely, hlmeankin, don't worry - I post these here for their technical interest only, not to persuade anybody!

looka this - the ultimate nanny state protectin us from r selfs

The Dutch parliament voted unanimously Thursday to outlaw bestiality and pornography involving animals. Sex with animals and the making of animal pornography now will carry a punishment of up to six months in jail under the measure. Current Dutch law forbids bestiality only when animals are found to have been mistreated. Animal pornography is explicitly forbidden in 80 countries and pornographers had lobbied fiercely against a Dutch ban, said lawmaker Harm Evert Waalkens, who introduced the measure. "The Netherlands is now a magnet for perversities and we don't want that," Waalkens said.


Gravatar funnily enough, vallely was micky aquino's boos for whom he wrote his psywar tracts:
http://www.xeper.org/maquino/


Gravatar vallely is also in bed with the supposed 'democrat' john loftus, via the so-called 'international intelligence summit'.


Gravatar I watched a long homemade documentary about 7/7/ called "ripple effect" on youtube.

It makes a very clear argument about how since the necessary shuttle train was cancelled none of the three supposed tube bombers could reach the tubes they were supposed to have bombed.

It fails though to convince me that the two who made videos did it as part of a supposed drill. I do not believe they could possibly have been so stupid.


Gravatar Is there something in the water over there that makes you crave garbage to believe?

Garbage? a young gay is talking about his encounters involving sex & drugs with Obama when BHO was an Illinois state senator in 1999. Big deal; along with Clinton & McCain, Obama is on Judicial Watch's list of the top ten most corrupt politicians. Is the young gay making this stuff up? He speaks very plausibly, and since smut appears to be a political job requirement in the USA, it could be he's right. You be the judge.


Gravatar ok, i judge it as garbage.


Gravatar "The Netherlands is now a magnet for perversities and we don't want that," Waalkens said."
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 4:20 am | #

I don't know if this is relevant but when I was about six, I had a pet lamb called Henry.
I have no idea why he was called Henry.
Henry and I were very good friends and had lots of fun times together.
One day my parents said that he was getting too 'big' and informed me that he needed to be with all the other sheep on the farm.
I was heartbroken but they said he would be much better off in his new home.
It wasn't until many years later that I twigged they had taken him to the butchers!


Gravatar moonkoon, you seem like a nice person but You are a little mysterious. Are you a boy or a girl? whereabouts on this crazy planet do you live?

anyway, I am a bit delighted to find Seth Freedman (one of the offspring of the horrible trophy blonde sayenet called Mrs Freedman, who got me kicked off my hebrew course and nearly prosecuted for bloody mindedness as you all must know) - anyway, seth freedman says in a response to a comment on a comment-is-free piece of his own (very foolish of him to expose himself in this way):

"I suppose it helps that my dad plays on the same cricket team as (London Metropolitan Police Commisssioner) Ian Blair."


Gravatar So until now, you could fuck an animal in the Netherlands but not mistreat one? But how could the beasts testify that they were enjoying it?


Gravatar Rowan, I am an oldish boy.
I live in the Antipodes.
I have done many things over the years.
At present I get my pin money by sawing timber.


Gravatar Re the Dutch Protectors of Animals theme:

I am reminded of that van Gogh character that was offed suposedly for the anti-Islam film he made and which act gave Hirsi Ali her career spurt. Van Gogh's dear friend Pym Foruyn, another rabid anti-Islam right-winger was also offed shortly thereafter. Pym Fortuyn had consistently referred to Muslims as goatf*****, the righteous knew who to blame. You know, them Muslims who hate freedom of speech.

The disappointment was great when it transpired that Pym was offed by a Freedom for the Four Legged Among Us liberator.


Gravatar ok, i judge it as garbage.

Okay, what's your seasoned judgment on this one?

Revealed: Client number 6 on the $5000/hr callgirl hit parade -- The Duke of Westminster
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.co...llgirl- hit.html


Gravatar Don't be fooled, if anyone believes that this "person", is an honest one, who recently wrote the following, in a thread of other insults, only from his side, without having been personally been attacked at all:
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http://www.haloscan.com/comments...9608718/ #315838
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let's take an example of fritz's method of argument, people : let's consider his arguments against 'the frankfurt school', about which he covers the screen with ejaculate.
so, where's the arguments? there aren't any. just the fact that he blames them for the thought control that irks him.
your mistake is this, fritz : more intelligent people will always control your thoughts - their supposed ideology has little to do with it, it is a matter of their being more intelligent than you are. OK?
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.12.08 - 4:04 pm | #


Gravatar The Screws of the World is a respectable authority, within its very narrow range of expertise, and the allegations made by the girl who suffered the tedium of attending to His Grace and listening to his puerile boasts are entirely credible.
Very different is the case of Rense.


Gravatar Rowan, just to flesh things out a bit.
I think we made a big mistake killing off our Gods and i try to bring them back to life.
Life is the poorer without them.
I have met unusual people in my life, some of them have sort me out and told me things eg.
http://manfromatlan.blogspot.com...al- warrior.html
As you know I think life is for loving and living
The only thing we really have is the present.
There is no tomorrow till it comes.
Life is a process not an event, and so on.
I am not one to badger my God, and I don't expect more than what I have.
I think we have 'ages', and I get the feeling that we are seeing the birth off a new one.
I think the new age will be kinder to mankind than modernism and its Gods.


Gravatar It's tempting to draw parallels between Hillary's pro-Israel Lobby fetish and Monica's Bill fetish. Amateur meets pro... No wonder she never felt threatened by Monica.


Gravatar what on earth do you mean by 'modernism', moonkoon? is this some reactionary polemic you have picked up from the padrés?


Gravatar "...is this some reactionary polemic you have picked up from the padrés?"
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 03.14.08 - 7:23 am | #

I'm not sure where I got the idea from, probably more from experience than anything else.
It has to do with how we see ourselves.
I think we fell for a trick when we changed our world view in Galileo's time.
I think this heralded an system centric view which devalued our lives.


Gravatar It is so much easier to mistreat or kill people if they are perceived as a resource, a human resource.


Gravatar Fritz - it might help if you see your attacker in a geopolitical sense, as the inheritor of Rule Britannia in his schoolboy years, and of british-anarcho-judaic-marxism in his later years. The attacker holds court at this blog as if it were his own, and throws tantrums when his fight-or-flight hormones are raised or when the codeine tablets wear off. You have every right to express your point of view, and you have at least one or maybe lots of supporters here.

Criticism can be cruel especially when it is not constructive as in the above examples listed by you. See them for what they are - a shrill opponent in his weakest moments.

Cheers!


Gravatar thank you,righteo, and I don't want to draw anyone into this unfriendly discourse but personal attacks like they have appeared, are not at all helpful understand whatever pieces of truth one or another may find. This was about the Frankfurt School and my arguments over a longer time were based on explanations of an honest theologian Eugen Drewermann and many others like from Alexander Kluge and also Kevin MacDonald.


Gravatar Very different is the case of Rense.

Rense's interviews with Larry Sinclair can be downloaded as mp3 files, and if Sinclair is a liar he is a very talented liar, as you may hear. He could be part of Obama's campaign to air some dirty linen and turn it into old news. Who knows, there could be quite a demographic that approves of a man who does sex'n'drugs in a classy way.

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Who is leaking these numbered clients, now that we know #9 and #6?


Gravatar Hey Fritz, keep on truckin'.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/ j.sahlber..._on_truckin.jpg


Gravatar I like this blog because every now and then it opens my eyes.


Gravatar well, who would I be to argue with an honest theologian?


Gravatar I think on balance it's probably good that I give the impression of holding court at this blog as if it were my own, since this just means that i don't back down, except when i find I have actually made a factual error, or wandered so far into the land of the foul mouthed yob that even i begin to find it dull there.


Gravatar Rowan, a bit of zen,
You are what you are


Gravatar The traditional information filters have proven themselves to be less interested in the truth and more interested in advancing a position or agenda whatever they may be. Those wishing to remain free must develop and trust their own instincts regarding what is truth....and what is garbage.


Gravatar I think you would be very foolish to trust your 'instincts', travis. Our rulers know rather more about our 'instincts' than we do ourselves, generally speaking.


Gravatar I can't imagine how fritz copes with the psychoanalytic aspects of his honest theologian:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Eug...ugen_Drewermann


Gravatar Knowing our instincts helps us to avoid those who would trap us with them.


Gravatar not to mention the fact that drewermann hobnobs with the so-called 'dalai lama', who, as everybody knows, has been a full time CIA asset for forty years.


Gravatar there seems to be a sort of double-bind affecting german culture, such that it is unable to express any idea whatsoever in an honest way.

however, I was impressed by Horst Mahler, who with his scholarly colleague Dr. Oberlercher, managed to create an expanded theory of the historical dialectic of 'modernity' which attempts to locate both hitler and marx within a single system of categories. I don't understand it, because I don't read german, but it's a good idea.


Gravatar our rulers?


Gravatar Rowan,
Maybe in his position that is unavoidable.
But I guess his primary motivation is the welfare of his people.
He only advocates peaceful change.


Gravatar Eugen Drewerman has long experience with psychoanalysis and the Freudian school and the Frankfurt's one - and from this point he talked about German fairy tales, how this Frankfurt School claimed that they should have been the reason for the alleged "cruelty and militarism" of the german people. This shows their efforts to destroy our people during "reeducation", Imo. He was as honest, when he disagreed with the Vatican, to get his teaching permit withdrawn by them, and did not back off.
With the Dailai Lama this is not any serious allegation. Today the communist- capitalist China has cut off Tibet and Lasa with military , because of the protests of Tibetans.


Gravatar These allegations against Germans are horrible lies of the occupiers, because Germany and Prussia have waged far less numbers of wars in the course of centuries, than the neighbors and especially GB.