yes, John Dee was Jewish -http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?
topic=7026.35;wap2
but "converted" to the Anglican church.
Many other "Zionist Christians" like the British royal family are in reality ETHNIC Jews.
salman, I wouldn't attach much value to anyone who calls him "controversial Anglican priest and Jewish occultist John Dee " - he was never an anglican priest, whatever that may be.
the wikipedia article on Dee is quite good:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_John_Dee
well there are tons of wasps that are jew wanna bees.
Dee was certainly a believer in both moses and jesus. However, for various reasons, he became dependent upon a peculiar man named edward kelley who claimed to be able to summon and communicate with 'angels'.
and this led to his downfall. wife swapping at the suggestion of these 'angels' really should have caused him to draw the line, but it did not, and the unfortunate jane dee was required to sleep with kelley. this sort of thing does the reputation of occultism little good, which is why causaubon took such pleasure in publishing the facts after dee's death.
incidentally, casaubon WAS "an anglican priest" more or less.
clearly when Prince Phillips or some1 in the British Royal House claims that he wishes to be a virus that eats up 80% or more of the world's population...we are talking TALMUDIC thinking right here...whatever he calls himself, probably "Anglican", the point is that the thought processes of the elites of the powerhouse nations (i.e. Britain, Germany, recently Canada, France, Turkey the only Muslim nation, Russia one time, Eastern Europe) of the western world, is in line with Zionism.
I guess I've divided them into 3 main categories: Jews, crypt-Jews, and Jew wanna bees. The Jew wanna bees often fall into the category of "Jews"...since they claim descent of Jews, Israel, Khazars, or anything related.
"crypto-Jews"***
seen
Stop drivelling, Salman.
On topic, Xym's "More Wars For Jews" Party vs. "No More Wars For Jews" Party really boils down to Ron Paul (R), Dennis Kucinich (D) & Mike Gravel (D) in the latter. Not surprisingly, the "No More Wars For Jews" Party is glossed over, ignored, marginalised by the jewcon MSM.
For those who follow the U.S. republican primaries:
Nevada caucus.
Name - Votes - % - Delegates
Romney 22,649 51% 18
Paul 6,087 14% 4
McCain 5,651 13% 4
Huckabee 3,616 8% 2
Thompson 3,521 8% 2
Giuliani 1,910 4% 1
Hunter 890 2% 0
Tancredo 0 0% 0
South Carolina primary
1. John McCain — 33.2%
2. Mike Huckabee — 29.8%
3. Fred Thompson — 15.8%
4. Mitt Romney — 15.1%
5. Ron Paul — 3.7%
6. Rudy Giuliani — 2.07%
7. Duncan Hunter — 0.2%
Hmmm ... Giuliani & Hunter are consistent.
colbert tries to cash in on the hufschmid robot sex meme:
On The Colbert Report, the controversial author of Love and Sex with Robots espoused his theory that humans will one day develop emotional attachments to robots. "The most common reason I think at the beginning will be that there are millions of people out there in the world who for one reason or another can't establish normal relationships with humans," Levy said. "They're lonely, they're miserable, and robots, when they are sophisticated enough, will be an excellent alternative." Colbert was interested in the type of person who might grow close to the new machines. "Are these people who can't establish a relationship with other human beings," he asked, "are they by any chance people who write about love and sex with robots?" "No," Levy responded curtly. The author mentioned that one problem psychologists may have to address will be the possibility that if robots are sexually skilled, fewer humans will actually choose to form romantic bonds with each other. "Once you go bot, you never go back, is what you're saying" Colbert quipped. Of course, the host was also concerned that his Christian morality would not be threatened by these possible technological innovations. "Just for the record," he asked, "these are going to be straight robots, right? This isn't going to be anything freaky or strange. These aren't gaybots. These are straight, hetero-robots, the way God intended."
The following video is from Comedy Central's Colbert Report, broadcast on January 17, 2008:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/
Co..._love_0118.html
another piece about Sibel Edmonds in the Murdoch Sunday Times - it stresses Pakistan and fails to mention Israel at all:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
tol...icle3216737.ece
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.20.08 - 4:49 am
Good off-topic post, RB. I hereby forgive you for all the threads you've cluttered up with irrelevant clatter.
Robot sex is a subject dear to my heart. And it's not quite as funny as it's being made out to be. Leaving aside the fact that there's a growth industry producing life-like (but inert and unresponsive) dummies anatomically faithful to the top 10 percentile of the idealized female human form, robot sex is already here and has been for more than 20 years - in the form of that robust and ubiquitous electrical appliance known as the vibrator.
Please discuss.
(Xymph is just kidding about the elections. Americans are the dumbest people on the planet and deserve everything that's about to happen to them. Even the smart ones make rocks, cow dung and turnips look clever.)
The woman who got me tossed off my hebrew course has now got not just ONE but TWO of her sons writing bullshit for the grauniad:
Josh Freedman Berthoud is a journalist and writer. He contributes features and comment to such papers as The Observer, The Independent, The Evening Standard and the Jewish Chronicle and is a keen writer of plays, prose and comedy. Josh has recently been featuring on political panel shows for the BBC and Press TV and is currently writing a book on Israeli settlements in the West Bank, in collaboration with Seth Freedman. The book is planned for publication in Autumn 2008.
this is the book -
Love and Sex with Robots: The Evolution of Human-Robot Relationships
Hardcover: 352 pages
Publisher: Harper (November 6, 2007)
Author David Levy is an internationally recognized expert on artificial intelligence. He is president of the International Computer Games Association and in 1997 led the team that won the Loebner Prize—the world championship for conversational computer software. In 2006 he became the first person ever to present papers on intimate relationships with robotic partners at an international conference. He is also the author of Robots Unlimited. Levy lives in London with his wife, Christine, and their cat.
http://www.amazon.com/Love-Sex-R...&
qid=1196276533
I watched the video of Colbert and this Levy, and it is noticable that the latter can only think with his eyes closed, which suggests that deep down he is afraid to look real humans in the face while spouting his perverted jewish fantasies about sex machines.
...led the team that won the Loebner Prize—the world championship for conversational computer software.
Actually, this reminds me of an article I read on the www some time ago. It concerned an experimental party-trick computer program in a Uni dept somewhere in USA. The program responded to questions typed into the console, by asking a question about the subject of the typed question and randomly embellished them with remarks such as "Why is this important/ interesting/ worrying", or "how do you feel about that?".
The point of the article was that troubled students were sneaking into the lab and discussing their problems with the computer when there were on-campus professional counselors available free of charge and on short notice.
What they liked about the computer was that it seemed more interested and sympathetic etc...
Levy lives in London with his wife, Christine, and a reliable power source ...
those freedmans really annoy me, i see them as a powerful clan of mossad sayanim. the father is "a prominent lawyer" (I can't remember exactly what sort), the mother is a trophy blonde of the sort one would expect from mossad, and the sons are propaganda commissars
The point being that a robot sex partner could probably seem quite 'lovable' similarly programmed for 'conversation'...
smekhovo | 01.20.08 - 9:00 am
This blog would be nothing without the elegant sophistication you bring to it...
CNN BANS KUCINICH FROM MONDAY'S DEBATES - THAT IS IN ADDITION TO BEING BANNED BY MSNBC'S DEBATES.
Wouldn't It Have Been Nice If One Of The Anointed Three said, "I think this is a travesty that Dennis Kucinich has been forced out of this debate. I am now going to leave in protest, and will participate in no further debates until all Democratic candidates are included."
http://
www.democraticunderground...ess=132x4083760
Except 2 of them engineered this
http://aycu08.webshots.com/
image...03534543_rs.jpg Why aren't there public debates?
Have the networks bid on them or offer other incentives to air. Have pre-determined rules and stick to them. Why do we let GE run our debates anyway?
Well because the media and the ptb are one and the same..
http://www.dennis4president.com/...t-poll-results/
Apart from being in the "No Wars For Jews Party". Kucinich has upset the apple cart by demanding a recount in the New Hampshire Primary. So no face time for him on teevee in the Dem wing of the "Wars For Jews Party". What does he expect, respect?
(...) and it is noticable that the latter can only think with his eyes closed (...)
A sure fire way to spot one, along with rapid head nods, spinal and facial contortions, a kind of reverse constipatory excretion, because pushing out a stream of lies is hard labour.
the comments counters on each thread are stuck.
how i wish, sweet sweet xymph you would acquire the add-on that gives each of us a cookie and subsequently tells us whether each thread has any NEW comments on it - lenin's tomb have this cookie laden blessing
They don’t want to end the war; they just want partisan advantage.
In fact they want neither but want you to think they want both, i.e., propagate the perception of two (non-identical) parties.
17:01 N.Y. Jews to mark Martin Luther King, Jr. Day with more than 50 events (Haaretz)
no fuckin comment
The woman who got me tossed off my hebrew course has now got not just ONE but TWO of her sons writing bullshit for the grauniad
Ah, hence your hostility to the paper. Well, it's a poor best, granted, but still the best, at least in patches.
the grauniad is in no way better than the independent.
as a matter of fact I have known that it was what I call a "jewish nazi" paper for quite some times, for the following reason : a couple of years ago I was watching israel army radio on the web, which is possible though it sounds bizarre, and ian black, the foreign editor of the guardian iirc, popped up in the control room talking fluent idiomatic hebrew to the army interviewers.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/
20080...ocaust_denier_1
++++++
Zündel verdict: 5 years in a German dungeon
This goes to show that it is greater to think RIGHT than to think freely. Further don't ever attempt to defend someone who is challenging what is right. Witch-trials in the name of fascism. May the holyhoax continue forever unchallenged. I think this may be unprecedented in Germany, a lawyer getting prison for attempting to defend his/her client, maybe it happened during Nazi-times?
++++++
http://goldismoney.info/forums/s...ad.php?
t=118351
Some people continue to believe that "Communism" was defeated.
Sure.
Komrade Merkel learned from the best during her career in EAST German politics (yup, she's from the old "DDR").
Among the first decrees of Lenin's Bolshevik regime was an order prescribing DEATH for the "crime" of "anti-Semitism." Communism was, is, and ALWAYS WILL BE pro-Jewish.
Holocaust Denier's Lawyer Gets Prison
Mon Jan 14, 12:56 PM ET
BERLIN - A former lawyer for a well-known Holocaust denier was convicted of incitement in Germany on Monday for denying the genocide herself and sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison.
Sylvia Stolz, who represented Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel at his trial, also was banned from practicing law for five years.
During Zundel's trial, Stolz repeatedly disputed the Nazis' mass murder of Jews, called for hatred of the Jewish population and ended a legal document with the words "Heil Hitler."
Zundel's first trial collapsed after Stolz was banned from the proceedings on the grounds she was trying to sabotage them.
Zundel's second trial at Mannheim state court ended in February 2007 with his conviction for incitement for denying the Holocaust — a crime in Germany.
The 67-year-old Zundel, who was deported from Canada in 2005 and also once lived in Tennessee, was sentenced to the maximum five years in prison.
Communism was, is, and ALWAYS WILL BE pro-Jewish.
-- don't let the facts spoil your prehistoric slogans, and don't pretend to be a kucenich supporter when you are obviously a very low level troll tasked with smearing him as an "anti-semite" (yawn)
It's true, communism always will be pro-Jewish. Certainly there may be non-Jews who support communism and there may be Jews who are killed by Communist regimes but, at the spiritual level, the level that counts, the level that guides us on a basic level, communism is pro-Jewish. No question.
This is not relevant to my last post but a great quote that I read yesterday that I thought I'd share:
"I am devoting my lecture in this seminar to a discussion of the possibility that we are now entering a Jewish century, a time when the spirit of the community, the non-ideological blend of the emotional and rational and the resistance to categories and forms will emerge through the forces of anti-nationalism to provide us with a new kind of society. I call this process the Judaization of Christianity because Christianity will be the vehicle through which this society becomes Jewish."
-Rabbi Martin Siegel, quoted in New York magazine, January 1972.
and all whites will always be genocidal hitlerite nazis. its equally logical and you all just proved it. this is good for the jews because it means that they can rally the entire black population of the continent against you.
they'll be in the right, too : you appear to be, by and large, genocidalists through stupidity.
let's make that, "rally the entire non white population of the world against you" - since this will require them to re-adopt marxism, I am all for it - you won't be missed, guys.
Rowan, you have come to absolutely no principled conclusions in your years of study. You just dance around in your head and play with yourself. Sure, you come to the occasional lesser conclusion that can be helpful, but nothing of real substance. Because if you did come to any final conclusions of principled substance, you'd have to quit your favorite hobby of mental masturbation and following blind alleys. Sorry buddy, you're irrelevant.
incidentally, returning to matters that have some relation to the reality we live in, I should add that the bad feeling I get about the Freedman family is just like the bad feeling I get about CounterPunch - i.e., it is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing with any particular position they take, it is a matter of knowing they are placemen, or apparatchiks, there to colonise the mass mind of the readership.
you just don't get it, mark. you are doing exactly what they want, reacting exactly as they wish. this isn't entirely your fault, since they own all the mass media, and indirectly they own the entire educational system, that made you think as you do.
incidentally, one of the reasons that they think they are qualified to rule over you is that they regard themselves, unlike you, as studious.
But Rowan, I'm not being violent, I'm merely stating the Truth. The Truth is the only defense against these mongrels. Are you saying there is anything WE can do as people to preserve our civilization that won't make THEM uncomfortable? They are going to be uncomfortable in a future in which they do not control us, period, as they were in the past when they did not control us. It is either/or. There is no middle. Perhaps this is what you are uncomfortable with?
ummm Mark-not that Berkeley would use this example.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary....s/
Zyuganov.html
Communist Party Leader Attacks Jews
In an open letter, Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov claimed there is a Zionist conspiracy to seize power in Russia and asserted that "Zionist capital" has wrecked Russia's economy. The letter appeared to be aimed at the Russian business tycoons known as the "oligarchs," who were instrumental in reelecting President Boris Yeltsin over Zyuganov in 1996. Most of these business people are Jewish, including Boris Berezovsky, who has called for outlawing the Communist Party in Russia.
my provocations provide me with extra insights, although of course using provocation to find things out is very dangerous. my latest such insight is that the mainstream middle middle class jews do as they do out of class, rather than race (let alone 'religious') solidarity.
there is nothing you can do to preserve your civilisation, because your civilisation is an illusion created in your minds (not in anyone else's, as witness gandhi's famous comment on it) by their propaganda.
Rowan, that is what they would have you believe. But all rational conclusions have previous spiritual implications, whether people are aware of them or not.
Rowan, of course civilization is a creation of the mind. What else would it be?
Berkeley is nothing if not anti-Vitalist. But anti-Vitalists tend to prove Vitalism.
Ken,
Communism has many forms. The neocons are basically communist. Let me define my terms. Communism to me is any government based on conclusions that lead back to first principles that stand against the redemptive quality of Christ and all the implications, spiritual and governmental, that flow from that.
In light of the late developing "national communisms" however, this is a tautological definition.
Marx's primary goal was the destruction of Christian civilization. He used the tools that best suited the times. Those tools will change with the times. There will always be new tools. And I will call those tools communist.
Like what "national communism" are you referring to, specifically?
"The likely reasons for such a disconnect, in each case, are the ethnic Russian and even Christian Orthodox slant in Gennady Zyuganov's prouncements"
http://www.law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol1...al/
glinski.html
I just cited one, even though it did not come to power in Russia-Zyuganov is an avowed Christian.
Not sure what Zyuganov says about Rosa, but it might not meet with Berkeley's enthusiasm, hence his
selective marxism...
It's all gone over my head. Oh well.
i can't even be bothered to read ytour ridiculous definitions. all that has happened is that right wing jews both inside and outside government have been put in charge of mis-educating you, instead of left wing ones.
thus, it is not at all surprising to find 'libertarian' jewish neocons - they created these childish antitheses, they can play them like the violin.
As usual, I have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever convinced anyone of anything? And if so, what did you convince them of? What would you convince me of? I know that both the right and left wings are comprised of Jews, and are therefore communist. We all know the neocons are neo-Trotskyites.
The Jews always disguise their intentions and motives. Yet you think you have some "inside track" on middle class Jews because they say they do what they do "out of class". What utter absurdity. Make a statement that actually MEANS something. What would you have me convinced of? Where would you have me stand, specifically, in 100 words or less? I doubt you could make such a statement because you stand nowhere yourself. You've made no choice, no decision. Tell me, who is being manipulated?
when I think about all this, I can only say rather unkindly that it is a good thing Aaron Russo died before he became seriously fashionable.
as for my own views, I suggest you try to discern them from the general flow of conversation.
when one of a thousand right wing radio talk show jocks in America --usually employed by Clear Channel,says he's a liberatarian, it
means only that he favors legalizing pot.
here is a lengthy, detailed, and absolutely up-to-date accoutn of the changing role of the state in world politics, written from a marxian point of view I would say, if anyone wants to focus on reality for achange:
http://bnarchives.yorku.ca/248/
0...olonisation.htm
there was a rather famous advocate of European Right authoritarian unification in the 1990s who called China "National Socialist"
since its depature from hard core Maoism, but I can't name him.
you can also get that article i just recommended as a pdf file from here:
http://bnarchives.yorku.ca/248
see, this totally blows away the childish debating society approach of liberty versus government:
"It's for real. The for-profit nation-state, with a globally dispersed citizenry of shareholders, is the next stage in the evolution of political economy."(57) Critical as well as orthodox scholars have noticed the work of Thomas P. Barnett as an important testament of US Grand Strategy and its stated commitment to economic globalisation(5
. However, few have understood his work from the vantage point of capitalisation. Following up on his article in Esquire, Barnett published a book in 2004 entitled The Pentagon's New Map: War and Peace in the Twenty-First Century. In the text, Barnett is concerned to demonstrate how he is the cartographer of the Pentagon's new map for military intervention into the foreseeable future. He conceives of the USA as a global Leviathan whose sovereign bonds are capitalised by foreign and domestic investors because the USA offers investors a 'future worth creating' by providing 'the world a security product that is unrivaled'(59). In other words, Barnett conceptualises the politico-military apparatus of the USA and its capacity to shape the future contours of world order as a commodity purchased by investors. From this it follows that investors will continue to finance US debt as long as its politico-military apparatus appears capable of exerting a controlling influence on the future constitution of world order. This might sound like an unconventional and even crude understanding of the state, but it was not developed by Barnett alone...
Instead of throwing around historically foul definined terms like: "and all whites will always be genocidal hitlerite nazis. its equally logical and you all just proved it." (Berkeley 1:16)
..instead of that, someone pretending to be a follower of Marx should have the obligation to consider the real genozides Marxists have committed. And Jews. Without historical truth, it is like talking about the shape of fog.
well, what they did to Zündel is nothing short of sadistic perversion.
here in Canada, another of the lawyers who defended him locally, Doug Christie, also ended up in trouble with upper canada law society.
What Zündel did, were historical investigation. To throw him in jail again and his lawyer Sylvia Stolz is against freedom of science, thought and justice. It would certainly not damage Kucinich's reputation to mention this in a comment, as they are basic human rights.
These many trials to condemn "thought rebells" are a reminder of the tribunal at Nuernberg 1946 ff. and directly following of it, though in modern world those paranoid actions show the end of this injustice coming near, as David Irving said.
The for-profit nation-state[read: Israel], with a globally dispersed citizenry of shareholders [read: Jews](...)
I mean, which state-citizenry pairing fits the bill better?
And USA as envisioned by Barnett still has Jews as controlling shareholders, which makes it an extension of Israel, not the other way around.
F*** that.
And another point was, that communism was historically (bolshevism) never against Jews as such, but often led by them on higher and lower levels, when they became communists themselves. There may be minor exceptions after 1945, or if today communism is not marxist but becoming national. These former points are described at length in Solshenizyn's "200 years together" (not on English available) - Bolshevism was anti: Christian, anti: Russian culture and history.. though if it wasn't directly Jewish, masses of them expected their paradise there.
I took the time to watch the debate feature Bill Kristol that Phil Weiss comments own as noted in Xymph's recent post.
The interest was not so much Kristol, a well-known poster-child for antisemitism, as the shared commitment of all participants to a dialectic of self-deception; even the most enlightened among them, JJ Goldberg, shows an astonishing chauvinism and bigotry.
And if Salman asserts that Thomas P Barnett is a Jew, I won't complain either, his blog is pretty telling of where his sympathies lie, e.g., this:
Now that the Wolfowitz drama seems over, let me be among the first to suggest Robert Zoellick is our man.
In case anyone else is curious--
http://www.yivo.org/index.php?ti...tid=147&
aid=357
CORRECTION
I took the time to watch the debate featuring Bill Kristol that Phil Weiss comments on as noted in Xymph's recent post.
Jonathan Nitzan & Shimson Bichler are two joo economist who are often referenced in The 'Art' of Colonisation brought to us by our resident rabbi, rabboni Berkeley. Nitzan and Birchler are to mensches who's job is to blame the military industrial complex that sustains Israel on ANYONE other than Israel. Of course we know that the joos would never be militaristic if it wasn't for some evil outside force. Soooo they, having a marxist (dear to the heart of the rabbi at this particular time wait 6 months and he'll be back to the anarchist camp [the two joo approved camps of zio criticism]) bent, blame the Chicago School of Economics and it's brand of capitalism. The University of Chicago was financed by the J.D. Rockefeller the lads tell us, which is all very true but what they neglect to say is that J.D. Rockefeller was a Rothschild's boy. It's just the joos playing on both sides of the fence just like our rabbi does.
Mark | 01.20.08 - 1:00 pm - thanks for posting it. I'd say Siegel hits the nail on the head, that's where we're at... but times they are a chang'n.
Sylvia Stolz's story has just begun. She has the character and strength of the future.
Barnett's definition of the USA as for-profit-nation-state, an investment corporation, proves that marxists think in capitalist terms,- as the Jews do, since they come from an tradition of merchants but an extremely materialistic one.
This doesn't work out, since other people often still have other values and aims, and now that this investment in security has become terrorist obsessed, the shareholder values are dropping.
Gandhi concluded: "We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going to destroy humanity.
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber...r.com/node/
5389
2008-01-18
Gandhi grandson resigns after criticism of anti-Semitic article
Judea Pearl goes straight to the chairman of the Washington Post
By Brad A. Greenberg, Senior Writer
The president of the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence at the University of Rochester resigned Thursday amid criticism of a short opinion piece he wrote for The Washington Post online titled "Jewish Identity Can't Depend on Violence."
I think I saw this guy, Thomas P Barnett, give a lecture once on television. It was about how america would use shock and awe to contain warfare to basically the middle east region. He was absolutely giddy with the idea of bombing. He's spooky.
Mark is right, rowan...the neo-cons were once neo-Trotskyites
"Thomas P. Barnett, who has this theory that the international system is divided between nations belonging to the "Core" and those belonging to the "Banana Republic"...ooops...sorry..to the "Gap." BTW, Barnett stole this nonsense from Latin American Marxists and their Dependencia Theory."
http://
globalparadigms.blogspot....01_archive.html
Dependencia Theory says it all, the NANNY state.
"Domestic prices were controlled and manipulated, and subsidies were widespread. Many industries and activities were nationalized. A jungle of controls and regulations grew throughout the economy. The way to make money was by making one's way through the administrative and bureaucratic maze rather than by developing and serving markets. Overall, what guided the economy were bureaucratic and political decisions, not signals and feedback from the market." - basically a who you know economy.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/
commandi...ependencia.html
Judea Pearl goes straight to the chairman of the Washington Post
heh-heh ...
Pearl,.. said he first called Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, when he read Gandhi's comments. The ADL had already issued a statement saying even Gandhi's apology was offensive and did not ease concerns that he believed Israel and Jews propagate a "culture of violence."
Next: Now that India is sitting on some cash, Jews sue for giant reparations, how their kind, sensitive souls suffered because of Gandhi's offensive apology.
The train is in motion ...
(A bit of advice: never, ever apologize to Jews for anything, never yield a single inch, the only response they respect)
Several hours have now passed, but I still cannot believe what I witnessed between 1 and 2 O’clock this afternoon. Perhaps I am a bit slow to catch on; but I could never have anticipated, even in my wildest dreams, what those three BRDDR judges did to Sylvia.
http://
www.adelaideinstitute.org...ermanScene6.htm
Glenz charges that Revisionists are not willing to accept and acknowledge official Offenkundigkeit - Manifest Obviousness. Then he says their “perverted picture of mankind” ultimately leads even to questioning the legitimacy of the BRDDR!
[Here we have it – “Das ist des Pudels Kern!” as Faust would say -- the question of the legitimacy of the present regime. The political elite has always known the BRDDR lacks legitimacy, and now this realization is spreading throughout the general population.]
Then Glenz tries to compare Auschwitz and Dresden, saying there is no more rubble and the Frauenkirche has been rebuilt, but he apparently loses his train of thought. He proudly emphasizes that he has consistently forbidden the introduction of documentary, empirical, or forensic evidence in Sylvia’s trial. He says that Sylvia, a defender of Revisionists, deliberately acted in a disruptive manner. In fact, she continues to do so, and to deny “Holocaust” as well.
Glenz says there is a danger she will continue her criminal activities. He says that German society can be protected only if she is immediately disbarred.
Then Judge Glenz talks about the legal bases for his verdict. Several counts of her indictment did not come under Section 130, such as collaborating with Horst Mahler, disparaging state organizations and functions with expressions such “Show Trial” and “Talmudic Inquisition,” and by comparing this trial to the Nuremberg Military Tribunal. “Coercion,” another of the counts that did not come under Section 130, refers to Sylvia’s admonition that under international law the BRDDR is not a legitimate government, since the victors of World War II never signed a peace treaty with Germany. The puppet governments they imposed were never approved by plebiscite, therefore the laws of the Reich are still the legitimate government, even though the Reich in unable to enforce its laws at present.
that was from:
Day 18 of the “Holocaust” Trial of Attorney Sylvia Stolz
In Mannheim Kangaroo Court, 14 January 2008 Sylvia’s Verdict, Sentencing and Arrest
Hail Sylvia!
In case the Court is unwilling to suspend proceedings, Attorney Bock moves that he be released from his duty to defend Sylvia, saying he does not want to serve as a fig leaf for such a disgraceful and dishonorable show trial.
***“In the Name of the People!” - Yes, But Which People?
the only Manifest Obviousness I see is that Judge Glenz is a Jew.
According to ADL, Ghandhi's apology is well, as far as you have taken it, isn't enough...where is the cash?
"Your apology is appropriate and welcome, as far as you have taken it. While you may have clarified some of the substance of your original comments, what is sadly lacking in your latest posting is a retraction of the suggestion that Jews "overplay" the Holocaust to manipulate the international community...This is a classic attempt to blame the victim."
http://www.adl.org/media_watch/
i...dhi_OnFaith.htm
It must be Manifest(ly) Obviousness to the sane german that this state of affairs is insane. I just read about what Martin Walser said "using Auschwitz as a moral club". Sounds like someone I could get along with.
slight typo, i see, laurie, should read: amoral club, certainly not a club i'd want to be a member of.
Laurie | 01.20.08 - 9:35 pm | #
I had assumed Laurie was making that up as parody (cf. Lobra @ 7:50) but then I followed the think.
Unavoidable realities:
these folks are psychopaths
they are running the world
the gods must be crazy
the link
John Kaminski: Control of your mind
By Stophypocrisy
“Western society is controlled by the Jews with music, TV, houses,
cars, [and] free sex”
? David Hicks,
an Australian idealist arrested in Afghanistan
http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.co...com/blog/?
p=244
In Germany, a lawyer is on trial for defending her client against
Jewish mind control lies. The court says she committed a crime by even
talking about the alleged crimes her client, Ernst Zündel, supposedly
committed.
The lawyer Sylvia Stolz, asks: ?Is it even possible to indict a defense
attorney for taking his or her professional obligation seriously and
doing everything possible to meet those obligations? If the answer to
the question is ?yes? then the answer is further proof of Talmudic
supremacy in Germany. However, it is obvious to all that such tyranny
can no longer be called ?justice.??
There have been many political systems in which communism was the least "pro-jewish" movement in action.
Anglo-judaic-marxists are revelling in Germany's ongoing self-inflicted mental castration, also moral castration, as part of the Treaty of Versailles & its enforcement at the Nuremburg Trials et sequellae.
But forgetting, righteo, there have been years of freedom and another war and destruction in between.
It wasn't self inflicted, i believe, this occupation and enforced foul history.
Not forgetting that at all, Fritz!
WWII & Nuremberg were all about enforcing Versailles, which was all about the economic & spiritual humiliation of Germany. Especially by the anglo-judeo-marxists, who still insist on the spiritual humilation of Germany, if not the economic part. Though that still operates through the subsidies paid to the entity.
yes, righteo.
What I mean is the verdicts such as on Zundel, Rudolf, Stoltz, are self-inflicted moral & mental castration. When one reads the convulsions of the judges at these trials, it seems to me they are fully aware of the injustice they are perpetrating, but they must press ahead with it, because this is imposed on them as agents of the BDR, a puppet government of the anglo-judeo-marxists. What does Germany want to have next, a nuking?
marxists think in capitalist terms
-- jeepers, those cunning marxist bastards.
that was a reference to this gem from fritz:
Barnett's definition of the USA as for-profit-nation-state, an investment corporation, proves that marxists think in capitalist terms,- as the Jews do, since they come from an tradition of merchants but an extremely materialistic one.
This doesn't work out, since other people often still have other values and aims, and now that this investment in security has become terrorist obsessed, the shareholder values are dropping.
Fritz | 01.20.08 - 6:25 pm | #
Ehud Barack Obama lays down the law to his putative brothers: "The scourge of anti-Semitism has, at times, revealed itself in our community"
http://www.barackobama.com/2008/
...ack_obam_40.php
A senior Republican advisor says since it is 'politically impossible' for Bush to attack Iran, the job should be 'outsourced' to Israel, PressTV reported. If Tehran does not halt its nuclear program, Israel will 'inevitably' wreak mayhem on Iran, wrote Norman Podhoretz in the February edition of Commentary. Podhoretz, who is considered as one of the founders of neoconservatism, insists that Israel may even be forced to attack Iran's Arab neighbors to prevent them from assisting Tehran if the country acquires nuclear technology. The neocon godfather is said to have a close relationship with President George W. Bush and is now serving as the foreign policy advisor to Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani. Podhoretz stated a year ago that the current administration will strike Iran's nuclear facilities before the US president leaves office. However, the US National Intelligence Estimate released in December concluded that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. Podhoretz claimed the NIE report made it 'politically impossible' for the Bush administration to wage war on Iran as the international community believes Iran's nuclear program is civilian.
parents are refusing to pay the extra $600 (US) equivalent that they are now being asked to pay to send their offspring on the hate trip to auschwitz:
http://www.ynetnews.com/
articles...3496662,00.html
I've just finished reading the Podhoretz article, it is here:
http://www.commentarymagazine.co...ll-Stands-
11085
there is nothing new in it.
smekhovo | 01.20.08 - 11:36 pm - and which ones would those be?
Israel isn't going to attack Iran or anyone one else because they know perfectly well that by going out on a limb that far, they run the risk of having it sawed off. The NIE report wasn't lost on them.
No but the apeshit noise about Iran nicely muffles the actual horrors being visited on Gazans.
Like a murderer turning on the television to cover the screams of the victim.
you are obviously a very low level troll tasked with smearing him as an "anti-semite" (yawn)
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.20.08 - 12:22 pm
Huh? Explain the thinking behind that conclusion, please. 5 years in the slammer for expressing an opinion in Neocon Germany makes Germany, not Zundell or his lawyer, guilty of a serious crime against free speech - purloined holus-bolus from Planet Of The Apes. Innit?
"...talking fluent idiomatic hebrew to the army interviewers." - how would you know this unless you could already speak it?
one can tell, laurie, if one is a trained intellgience agent...
oops.
now I shall have to go around killing everyone who reads this, dammit.
What did the israeli army radio guys call Ian Black?
Was it "Ian" or was it "Ehud" or some other hebrew name?
One might presume that "Ian Black" is a cunning gentile-sounding nym, no?
righteo, there is something really to think about your argument "self-inflicted". I'm not so sure from which point of view though. It is sort of a nightmare but people don't wake up. Of course, could say these judges are Khazars, and in any case they are btw. destroying justice, since refusing to prove their allegations with evidence.
But more since the plain lies about the WMDs/ Iraq war and the plain terror against the Palestinians, one can observe an enforcement of talmudic lies on people, by all foul means. Also about WW2 and Bolshevist slaughter.
The more, it could be, that around 1900 much was wrong, "self-inflicted, that western societies had been too materialistic and power obsessed. This could have developed more harmoniously though, but the interests of the international money mongers did give politics this direction into disasters.
If there was a way, one has to think about real basic changes, and for single people it is already possible to turn away from this obsession with materialism of the mainstream. May this turn out that we find out, we're dreaming.
no, they called him Ian.
I suppose that I should answer Laurie's question seriously. i have been listening to israeli radio for longer than I have been on the internet, in fact about seven or eight years. I have never found it difficult to detect the accents of people not brought up as native hebrew speakers.
Well, modern Russia, China, Cuba, etc. for a start.
"The scourge of anti-Semitism has, at times, revealed itself in our community"
Someone might have replied with
"The scourge of Semitism has, at all times, been a fixture in our community"
Smehovo, first modern russia? define. The only jews russia has problems with are the oligarchies. Russia used them in the 80's & 90's as barganing chips, but that worked to the advantage of world jewery as well because then they could scream anitisemitism. If china had problems with jews, western banks wouldn't be there. In general china has problems with anyone who isn't han, there is nothing special about the jews. Cuba? Once they ran out the jewish mob what problem was there?
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.21.08 - 9:20 am - ah huh.
Sorry Smehovo I got confused. Rabboni Berkeley upset me.
Ok smehovo I think I have my thoughts together better now.
The reason marxism/communism is not a good system both socially and economically is that it allows a relatively few to control the many. In this way it is joo friendly. True capitalism on the other hand (which is not what we have today) encourages everyone some control in the form of private ownership. One of the responsibilities of government in a capitalistic society is to create and enforce laws which prohibit monopolies. In those areas where monopolies make the most sense, as in defense, governments should operate and control them. Only a living, fluctuating market can decide true value.
what you have today is the truest capitalism there is, the actually existing capitalism. everything else is fantasy.
i am afraid rowan makes sense, laurie
capitalism is a 100% amoral system, jews are a 100% amoral people, hence they are made for each other.
Medieval market economy had been a basis for long times. Goethe said in Faust, that Mephisto has invented paper money. So he had a certain suspicion.
Marxist movements and social democrats in the 1920s and before in Russia had surprising many Jews as agitators. They claimed it as emancipation. The results are downplayed today in the media but not forgotten.
Capitalism perhaps, can be limited by the state. Is it a natural law as economists claim? In the middle ages the social authority controlled if the weights were correct and the coins... Also in the Orient market trade has functioned.
If you could stop enjoying yourself with the deceptive simplicities of ideology, and address such things as the enclosures of land ('privatisations' in todays terms), the driving of the peasants into the cities, the erection of workhouses, etc., then you might finally grasp the difference between a medieval agrarian economy and a modern manufacturing one.
pooh, if capitalism was jewish the rabbi would be for it.
Rabboni, people (peasants is a tern elitist like) were driven off their land under communism as well. How do you explain the rise in living standards and life expectancy in modern society if capitalism is so bad. Compare it with modern marxist societies.
you're quite right Fritz.
George Knupffer explains a kinder, gentler capitalism.
We do not have capitalism today. There is far, far, far too much government interference and cronyism.
smekhovo | 01.20.08 - 11:36 pm
the history of Communism in the Soviet from the Revolution to beyond late Stalinism discredits the Maenichean outlook re Jews and elsewise,weakens the Economic Man argument--and strengthens the premises of cultural nationalism, spiritual racism, etc.
Russia used them in the 80's & 90's as barganing chips, but that worked to the advantage of world jewery as well because then they could scream anitisemitism
History will record the rejectionist Arabs aided by the Soviet, effected a significant net MINUS on Israel.
Yes, my point was that when socialism disappeared from Russia it became clear that, in its later stage, it had at least been preserving the country from jewish depredations.
It seems to me, Laurie, that you might like Chesterton's Distributism.
Thanks smekhovo
http://www.chesterton.org/gkc/
di...stributist.html
lobro, Barnett sounds Jew to me!!!
yup, it is a name that would appeal to them, i.e., would be stolen frequently, sort of like Canadian passport manufacture in Mossad HQ.
Speaking of which, i wonder if Canadian guv't has colluded and let them have the knowhow to forge them at will.
Just looking at this "Distributism" - I did not know about, but my oldest ideas were that of gardens, small farms or handicrafts, like the old "alternatives", the (real) greens or ökos were thinking some time ago. There must be many ideas to be found, and also for factories should be a way to make them more humane. Perhaps Anthroposophs (Rudolf Steiner) have more about that too.
Very good.
Fascist nonsense about Goethe and "Faust" ("Fritz") is nothing new. Karl Marx took from "Faust" the scene of capital digging it's own grave: Faust is blinded, and believe to be hearing all his projects progress. But what he really hears is the sound of the lemurs digging his own grave. Faust is thought as a symbol for mankind, with all it's silly illusions about "progress". This is far above anything which "Fritz" and most contributors here are able to understand and learn from (to learn is to learn something about oneself in the world). "Faust" and "Capital" are a far cry from this childish soap-TV-world most commentators here seem to be living in.
Here is a good description of the current state of the US (and thus world) economy:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/
cartoo...1935747,00.html