Gravatar yes, John Dee was Jewish -http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php? topic=7026.35;wap2

but "converted" to the Anglican church.

Many other "Zionist Christians" like the British royal family are in reality ETHNIC Jews.


Gravatar salman, I wouldn't attach much value to anyone who calls him "controversial Anglican priest and Jewish occultist John Dee " - he was never an anglican priest, whatever that may be.


Gravatar the wikipedia article on Dee is quite good:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_John_Dee


Gravatar well there are tons of wasps that are jew wanna bees.


Gravatar Dee was certainly a believer in both moses and jesus. However, for various reasons, he became dependent upon a peculiar man named edward kelley who claimed to be able to summon and communicate with 'angels'.


Gravatar and this led to his downfall. wife swapping at the suggestion of these 'angels' really should have caused him to draw the line, but it did not, and the unfortunate jane dee was required to sleep with kelley. this sort of thing does the reputation of occultism little good, which is why causaubon took such pleasure in publishing the facts after dee's death.

incidentally, casaubon WAS "an anglican priest" more or less.


Gravatar clearly when Prince Phillips or some1 in the British Royal House claims that he wishes to be a virus that eats up 80% or more of the world's population...we are talking TALMUDIC thinking right here...whatever he calls himself, probably "Anglican", the point is that the thought processes of the elites of the powerhouse nations (i.e. Britain, Germany, recently Canada, France, Turkey the only Muslim nation, Russia one time, Eastern Europe) of the western world, is in line with Zionism.

I guess I've divided them into 3 main categories: Jews, crypt-Jews, and Jew wanna bees. The Jew wanna bees often fall into the category of "Jews"...since they claim descent of Jews, Israel, Khazars, or anything related.


Gravatar "crypto-Jews"***


Gravatar seen


Gravatar Stop drivelling, Salman.


Gravatar On topic, Xym's "More Wars For Jews" Party vs. "No More Wars For Jews" Party really boils down to Ron Paul (R), Dennis Kucinich (D) & Mike Gravel (D) in the latter. Not surprisingly, the "No More Wars For Jews" Party is glossed over, ignored, marginalised by the jewcon MSM.

For those who follow the U.S. republican primaries:

Nevada caucus.
Name - Votes - % - Delegates

Romney 22,649 51% 18
Paul 6,087 14% 4
McCain 5,651 13% 4
Huckabee 3,616 8% 2
Thompson 3,521 8% 2
Giuliani 1,910 4% 1
Hunter 890 2% 0
Tancredo 0 0% 0

South Carolina primary

1. John McCain — 33.2%
2. Mike Huckabee — 29.8%
3. Fred Thompson — 15.8%
4. Mitt Romney — 15.1%
5. Ron Paul — 3.7%
6. Rudy Giuliani — 2.07%
7. Duncan Hunter — 0.2%

Hmmm ... Giuliani & Hunter are consistent.


Gravatar colbert tries to cash in on the hufschmid robot sex meme:

On The Colbert Report, the controversial author of Love and Sex with Robots espoused his theory that humans will one day develop emotional attachments to robots. "The most common reason I think at the beginning will be that there are millions of people out there in the world who for one reason or another can't establish normal relationships with humans," Levy said. "They're lonely, they're miserable, and robots, when they are sophisticated enough, will be an excellent alternative." Colbert was interested in the type of person who might grow close to the new machines. "Are these people who can't establish a relationship with other human beings," he asked, "are they by any chance people who write about love and sex with robots?" "No," Levy responded curtly. The author mentioned that one problem psychologists may have to address will be the possibility that if robots are sexually skilled, fewer humans will actually choose to form romantic bonds with each other. "Once you go bot, you never go back, is what you're saying" Colbert quipped. Of course, the host was also concerned that his Christian morality would not be threatened by these possible technological innovations. "Just for the record," he asked, "these are going to be straight robots, right? This isn't going to be anything freaky or strange. These aren't gaybots. These are straight, hetero-robots, the way God intended."

The following video is from Comedy Central's Colbert Report, broadcast on January 17, 2008:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ Co..._love_0118.html


Gravatar another piece about Sibel Edmonds in the Murdoch Sunday Times - it stresses Pakistan and fails to mention Israel at all:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ tol...icle3216737.ece


Gravatar Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.20.08 - 4:49 am

Good off-topic post, RB. I hereby forgive you for all the threads you've cluttered up with irrelevant clatter.

Robot sex is a subject dear to my heart. And it's not quite as funny as it's being made out to be. Leaving aside the fact that there's a growth industry producing life-like (but inert and unresponsive) dummies anatomically faithful to the top 10 percentile of the idealized female human form, robot sex is already here and has been for more than 20 years - in the form of that robust and ubiquitous electrical appliance known as the vibrator.

Please discuss.

(Xymph is just kidding about the elections. Americans are the dumbest people on the planet and deserve everything that's about to happen to them. Even the smart ones make rocks, cow dung and turnips look clever.)


Gravatar The woman who got me tossed off my hebrew course has now got not just ONE but TWO of her sons writing bullshit for the grauniad:

Josh Freedman Berthoud is a journalist and writer. He contributes features and comment to such papers as The Observer, The Independent, The Evening Standard and the Jewish Chronicle and is a keen writer of plays, prose and comedy. Josh has recently been featuring on political panel shows for the BBC and Press TV and is currently writing a book on Israeli settlements in the West Bank, in collaboration with Seth Freedman. The book is planned for publication in Autumn 2008.


Gravatar this is the book -

Love and Sex with Robots: The Evolution of Human-Robot Relationships
Hardcover: 352 pages
Publisher: Harper (November 6, 2007)
Author David Levy is an internationally recognized expert on artificial intelligence. He is president of the International Computer Games Association and in 1997 led the team that won the Loebner Prize—the world championship for conversational computer software. In 2006 he became the first person ever to present papers on intimate relationships with robotic partners at an international conference. He is also the author of Robots Unlimited. Levy lives in London with his wife, Christine, and their cat.
http://www.amazon.com/Love-Sex-R...& qid=1196276533


Gravatar I watched the video of Colbert and this Levy, and it is noticable that the latter can only think with his eyes closed, which suggests that deep down he is afraid to look real humans in the face while spouting his perverted jewish fantasies about sex machines.


Gravatar ...led the team that won the Loebner Prize—the world championship for conversational computer software.

Actually, this reminds me of an article I read on the www some time ago. It concerned an experimental party-trick computer program in a Uni dept somewhere in USA. The program responded to questions typed into the console, by asking a question about the subject of the typed question and randomly embellished them with remarks such as "Why is this important/ interesting/ worrying", or "how do you feel about that?".

The point of the article was that troubled students were sneaking into the lab and discussing their problems with the computer when there were on-campus professional counselors available free of charge and on short notice.

What they liked about the computer was that it seemed more interested and sympathetic etc...


Gravatar Levy lives in London with his wife, Christine, and a reliable power source ...


Gravatar those freedmans really annoy me, i see them as a powerful clan of mossad sayanim. the father is "a prominent lawyer" (I can't remember exactly what sort), the mother is a trophy blonde of the sort one would expect from mossad, and the sons are propaganda commissars


Gravatar The point being that a robot sex partner could probably seem quite 'lovable' similarly programmed for 'conversation'...


Gravatar smekhovo | 01.20.08 - 9:00 am

This blog would be nothing without the elegant sophistication you bring to it...


Gravatar CNN BANS KUCINICH FROM MONDAY'S DEBATES - THAT IS IN ADDITION TO BEING BANNED BY MSNBC'S DEBATES.

Wouldn't It Have Been Nice If One Of The Anointed Three said, "I think this is a travesty that Dennis Kucinich has been forced out of this debate. I am now going to leave in protest, and will participate in no further debates until all Democratic candidates are included."

http:// www.democraticunderground...ess=132x4083760

Except 2 of them engineered this

http://aycu08.webshots.com/ image...03534543_rs.jpg Why aren't there public debates?

Have the networks bid on them or offer other incentives to air. Have pre-determined rules and stick to them. Why do we let GE run our debates anyway?

Well because the media and the ptb are one and the same..

http://www.dennis4president.com/...t-poll-results/


Gravatar Apart from being in the "No Wars For Jews Party". Kucinich has upset the apple cart by demanding a recount in the New Hampshire Primary. So no face time for him on teevee in the Dem wing of the "Wars For Jews Party". What does he expect, respect?


Gravatar (...) and it is noticable that the latter can only think with his eyes closed (...)

A sure fire way to spot one, along with rapid head nods, spinal and facial contortions, a kind of reverse constipatory excretion, because pushing out a stream of lies is hard labour.


Gravatar the comments counters on each thread are stuck.

how i wish, sweet sweet xymph you would acquire the add-on that gives each of us a cookie and subsequently tells us whether each thread has any NEW comments on it - lenin's tomb have this cookie laden blessing


Gravatar They don’t want to end the war; they just want partisan advantage.

In fact they want neither but want you to think they want both, i.e., propagate the perception of two (non-identical) parties.


Gravatar 17:01 N.Y. Jews to mark Martin Luther King, Jr. Day with more than 50 events (Haaretz)

no fuckin comment


Gravatar The woman who got me tossed off my hebrew course has now got not just ONE but TWO of her sons writing bullshit for the grauniad

Ah, hence your hostility to the paper. Well, it's a poor best, granted, but still the best, at least in patches.


Gravatar the grauniad is in no way better than the independent.


Gravatar as a matter of fact I have known that it was what I call a "jewish nazi" paper for quite some times, for the following reason : a couple of years ago I was watching israel army radio on the web, which is possible though it sounds bizarre, and ian black, the foreign editor of the guardian iirc, popped up in the control room talking fluent idiomatic hebrew to the army interviewers.


Gravatar http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20080...ocaust_denier_1

++++++

Zündel verdict: 5 years in a German dungeon

This goes to show that it is greater to think RIGHT than to think freely. Further don't ever attempt to defend someone who is challenging what is right. Witch-trials in the name of fascism. May the holyhoax continue forever unchallenged. I think this may be unprecedented in Germany, a lawyer getting prison for attempting to defend his/her client, maybe it happened during Nazi-times?

++++++

http://goldismoney.info/forums/s...ad.php? t=118351

Some people continue to believe that "Communism" was defeated.

Sure.

Komrade Merkel learned from the best during her career in EAST German politics (yup, she's from the old "DDR").

Among the first decrees of Lenin's Bolshevik regime was an order prescribing DEATH for the "crime" of "anti-Semitism." Communism was, is, and ALWAYS WILL BE pro-Jewish.

Holocaust Denier's Lawyer Gets Prison

Mon Jan 14, 12:56 PM ET

BERLIN - A former lawyer for a well-known Holocaust denier was convicted of incitement in Germany on Monday for denying the genocide herself and sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison.

Sylvia Stolz, who represented Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel at his trial, also was banned from practicing law for five years.

During Zundel's trial, Stolz repeatedly disputed the Nazis' mass murder of Jews, called for hatred of the Jewish population and ended a legal document with the words "Heil Hitler."

Zundel's first trial collapsed after Stolz was banned from the proceedings on the grounds she was trying to sabotage them.

Zundel's second trial at Mannheim state court ended in February 2007 with his conviction for incitement for denying the Holocaust — a crime in Germany.

The 67-year-old Zundel, who was deported from Canada in 2005 and also once lived in Tennessee, was sentenced to the maximum five years in prison.


Gravatar Communism was, is, and ALWAYS WILL BE pro-Jewish.

-- don't let the facts spoil your prehistoric slogans, and don't pretend to be a kucenich supporter when you are obviously a very low level troll tasked with smearing him as an "anti-semite" (yawn)


Gravatar It's true, communism always will be pro-Jewish. Certainly there may be non-Jews who support communism and there may be Jews who are killed by Communist regimes but, at the spiritual level, the level that counts, the level that guides us on a basic level, communism is pro-Jewish. No question.


Gravatar This is not relevant to my last post but a great quote that I read yesterday that I thought I'd share:

"I am devoting my lecture in this seminar to a discussion of the possibility that we are now entering a Jewish century, a time when the spirit of the community, the non-ideological blend of the emotional and rational and the resistance to categories and forms will emerge through the forces of anti-nationalism to provide us with a new kind of society. I call this process the Judaization of Christianity because Christianity will be the vehicle through which this society becomes Jewish."

-Rabbi Martin Siegel, quoted in New York magazine, January 1972.


Gravatar and all whites will always be genocidal hitlerite nazis. its equally logical and you all just proved it. this is good for the jews because it means that they can rally the entire black population of the continent against you.


Gravatar they'll be in the right, too : you appear to be, by and large, genocidalists through stupidity.


Gravatar let's make that, "rally the entire non white population of the world against you" - since this will require them to re-adopt marxism, I am all for it - you won't be missed, guys.


Gravatar Rowan, you have come to absolutely no principled conclusions in your years of study. You just dance around in your head and play with yourself. Sure, you come to the occasional lesser conclusion that can be helpful, but nothing of real substance. Because if you did come to any final conclusions of principled substance, you'd have to quit your favorite hobby of mental masturbation and following blind alleys. Sorry buddy, you're irrelevant.


Gravatar incidentally, returning to matters that have some relation to the reality we live in, I should add that the bad feeling I get about the Freedman family is just like the bad feeling I get about CounterPunch - i.e., it is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing with any particular position they take, it is a matter of knowing they are placemen, or apparatchiks, there to colonise the mass mind of the readership.


Gravatar you just don't get it, mark. you are doing exactly what they want, reacting exactly as they wish. this isn't entirely your fault, since they own all the mass media, and indirectly they own the entire educational system, that made you think as you do.


Gravatar incidentally, one of the reasons that they think they are qualified to rule over you is that they regard themselves, unlike you, as studious.


Gravatar But Rowan, I'm not being violent, I'm merely stating the Truth. The Truth is the only defense against these mongrels. Are you saying there is anything WE can do as people to preserve our civilization that won't make THEM uncomfortable? They are going to be uncomfortable in a future in which they do not control us, period, as they were in the past when they did not control us. It is either/or. There is no middle. Perhaps this is what you are uncomfortable with?


Gravatar ummm Mark-not that Berkeley would use this example.


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary....s/ Zyuganov.html

Communist Party Leader Attacks Jews

In an open letter, Communist Party leader Gennady Zyuganov claimed there is a Zionist conspiracy to seize power in Russia and asserted that "Zionist capital" has wrecked Russia's economy. The letter appeared to be aimed at the Russian business tycoons known as the "oligarchs," who were instrumental in reelecting President Boris Yeltsin over Zyuganov in 1996. Most of these business people are Jewish, including Boris Berezovsky, who has called for outlawing the Communist Party in Russia.


Gravatar my provocations provide me with extra insights, although of course using provocation to find things out is very dangerous. my latest such insight is that the mainstream middle middle class jews do as they do out of class, rather than race (let alone 'religious') solidarity.


Gravatar there is nothing you can do to preserve your civilisation, because your civilisation is an illusion created in your minds (not in anyone else's, as witness gandhi's famous comment on it) by their propaganda.


Gravatar Rowan, that is what they would have you believe. But all rational conclusions have previous spiritual implications, whether people are aware of them or not.


Gravatar Rowan, of course civilization is a creation of the mind. What else would it be?


Gravatar Berkeley is nothing if not anti-Vitalist. But anti-Vitalists tend to prove Vitalism.


Gravatar Ken,

Communism has many forms. The neocons are basically communist. Let me define my terms. Communism to me is any government based on conclusions that lead back to first principles that stand against the redemptive quality of Christ and all the implications, spiritual and governmental, that flow from that.


Gravatar In light of the late developing "national communisms" however, this is a tautological definition.


Gravatar Marx's primary goal was the destruction of Christian civilization. He used the tools that best suited the times. Those tools will change with the times. There will always be new tools. And I will call those tools communist.


Gravatar Like what "national communism" are you referring to, specifically?


Gravatar "The likely reasons for such a disconnect, in each case, are the ethnic Russian and even Christian Orthodox slant in Gennady Zyuganov's prouncements"

http://www.law.nyu.edu/eecr/vol1...al/ glinski.html


I just cited one, even though it did not come to power in Russia-Zyuganov is an avowed Christian.


Gravatar Not sure what Zyuganov says about Rosa, but it might not meet with Berkeley's enthusiasm, hence his
selective marxism...


Gravatar It's all gone over my head. Oh well.


Gravatar i can't even be bothered to read ytour ridiculous definitions. all that has happened is that right wing jews both inside and outside government have been put in charge of mis-educating you, instead of left wing ones.

thus, it is not at all surprising to find 'libertarian' jewish neocons - they created these childish antitheses, they can play them like the violin.


Gravatar As usual, I have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever convinced anyone of anything? And if so, what did you convince them of? What would you convince me of? I know that both the right and left wings are comprised of Jews, and are therefore communist. We all know the neocons are neo-Trotskyites.

The Jews always disguise their intentions and motives. Yet you think you have some "inside track" on middle class Jews because they say they do what they do "out of class". What utter absurdity. Make a statement that actually MEANS something. What would you have me convinced of? Where would you have me stand, specifically, in 100 words or less? I doubt you could make such a statement because you stand nowhere yourself. You've made no choice, no decision. Tell me, who is being manipulated?


Gravatar when I think about all this, I can only say rather unkindly that it is a good thing Aaron Russo died before he became seriously fashionable.

as for my own views, I suggest you try to discern them from the general flow of conversation.


Gravatar when one of a thousand right wing radio talk show jocks in America --usually employed by Clear Channel,says he's a liberatarian, it
means only that he favors legalizing pot.


Gravatar here is a lengthy, detailed, and absolutely up-to-date accoutn of the changing role of the state in world politics, written from a marxian point of view I would say, if anyone wants to focus on reality for achange:
http://bnarchives.yorku.ca/248/ 0...olonisation.htm


Gravatar there was a rather famous advocate of European Right authoritarian unification in the 1990s who called China "National Socialist"
since its depature from hard core Maoism, but I can't name him.


Gravatar you can also get that article i just recommended as a pdf file from here:
http://bnarchives.yorku.ca/248


Gravatar see, this totally blows away the childish debating society approach of liberty versus government:

"It's for real. The for-profit nation-state, with a globally dispersed citizenry of shareholders, is the next stage in the evolution of political economy."(57) Critical as well as orthodox scholars have noticed the work of Thomas P. Barnett as an important testament of US Grand Strategy and its stated commitment to economic globalisation(5. However, few have understood his work from the vantage point of capitalisation. Following up on his article in Esquire, Barnett published a book in 2004 entitled The Pentagon's New Map: War and Peace in the Twenty-First Century. In the text, Barnett is concerned to demonstrate how he is the cartographer of the Pentagon's new map for military intervention into the foreseeable future. He conceives of the USA as a global Leviathan whose sovereign bonds are capitalised by foreign and domestic investors because the USA offers investors a 'future worth creating' by providing 'the world a security product that is unrivaled'(59). In other words, Barnett conceptualises the politico-military apparatus of the USA and its capacity to shape the future contours of world order as a commodity purchased by investors. From this it follows that investors will continue to finance US debt as long as its politico-military apparatus appears capable of exerting a controlling influence on the future constitution of world order. This might sound like an unconventional and even crude understanding of the state, but it was not developed by Barnett alone...


Gravatar Instead of throwing around historically foul definined terms like: "and all whites will always be genocidal hitlerite nazis. its equally logical and you all just proved it." (Berkeley 1:16)
..instead of that, someone pretending to be a follower of Marx should have the obligation to consider the real genozides Marxists have committed. And Jews. Without historical truth, it is like talking about the shape of fog.


Gravatar well, what they did to Zündel is nothing short of sadistic perversion.

here in Canada, another of the lawyers who defended him locally, Doug Christie, also ended up in trouble with upper canada law society.


Gravatar What Zündel did, were historical investigation. To throw him in jail again and his lawyer Sylvia Stolz is against freedom of science, thought and justice. It would certainly not damage Kucinich's reputation to mention this in a comment, as they are basic human rights.
These many trials to condemn "thought rebells" are a reminder of the tribunal at Nuernberg 1946 ff. and directly following of it, though in modern world those paranoid actions show the end of this injustice coming near, as David Irving said.


Gravatar The for-profit nation-state[read: Israel], with a globally dispersed citizenry of shareholders [read: Jews](...)

I mean, which state-citizenry pairing fits the bill better?

And USA as envisioned by Barnett still has Jews as controlling shareholders, which makes it an extension of Israel, not the other way around.

F*** that.


Gravatar And another point was, that communism was historically (bolshevism) never against Jews as such, but often led by them on higher and lower levels, when they became communists themselves. There may be minor exceptions after 1945, or if today communism is not marxist but becoming national. These former points are described at length in Solshenizyn's "200 years together" (not on English available) - Bolshevism was anti: Christian, anti: Russian culture and history.. though if it wasn't directly Jewish, masses of them expected their paradise there.


Gravatar I took the time to watch the debate feature Bill Kristol that Phil Weiss comments own as noted in Xymph's recent post.

The interest was not so much Kristol, a well-known poster-child for antisemitism, as the shared commitment of all participants to a dialectic of self-deception; even the most enlightened among them, JJ Goldberg, shows an astonishing chauvinism and bigotry.


Gravatar And if Salman asserts that Thomas P Barnett is a Jew, I won't complain either, his blog is pretty telling of where his sympathies lie, e.g., this:
Now that the Wolfowitz drama seems over, let me be among the first to suggest Robert Zoellick is our man.


Gravatar In case anyone else is curious--

http://www.yivo.org/index.php?ti...tid=147& aid=357


Gravatar CORRECTION

I took the time to watch the debate featuring Bill Kristol that Phil Weiss comments on as noted in Xymph's recent post.


Gravatar Jonathan Nitzan & Shimson Bichler are two joo economist who are often referenced in The 'Art' of Colonisation brought to us by our resident rabbi, rabboni Berkeley. Nitzan and Birchler are to mensches who's job is to blame the military industrial complex that sustains Israel on ANYONE other than Israel. Of course we know that the joos would never be militaristic if it wasn't for some evil outside force. Soooo they, having a marxist (dear to the heart of the rabbi at this particular time wait 6 months and he'll be back to the anarchist camp [the two joo approved camps of zio criticism]) bent, blame the Chicago School of Economics and it's brand of capitalism. The University of Chicago was financed by the J.D. Rockefeller the lads tell us, which is all very true but what they neglect to say is that J.D. Rockefeller was a Rothschild's boy. It's just the joos playing on both sides of the fence just like our rabbi does.

Mark | 01.20.08 - 1:00 pm - thanks for posting it. I'd say Siegel hits the nail on the head, that's where we're at... but times they are a chang'n.

Sylvia Stolz's story has just begun. She has the character and strength of the future.


Gravatar Barnett's definition of the USA as for-profit-nation-state, an investment corporation, proves that marxists think in capitalist terms,- as the Jews do, since they come from an tradition of merchants but an extremely materialistic one.
This doesn't work out, since other people often still have other values and aims, and now that this investment in security has become terrorist obsessed, the shareholder values are dropping.


Gravatar Gandhi concluded: "We have created a culture of violence (Israel and the Jews are the biggest players) and that Culture of Violence is eventually going to destroy humanity.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber...r.com/node/ 5389

2008-01-18
Gandhi grandson resigns after criticism of anti-Semitic article

Judea Pearl goes straight to the chairman of the Washington Post

By Brad A. Greenberg, Senior Writer

The president of the M.K. Gandhi Institute for Nonviolence at the University of Rochester resigned Thursday amid criticism of a short opinion piece he wrote for The Washington Post online titled "Jewish Identity Can't Depend on Violence."


Gravatar I think I saw this guy, Thomas P Barnett, give a lecture once on television. It was about how america would use shock and awe to contain warfare to basically the middle east region. He was absolutely giddy with the idea of bombing. He's spooky.


Gravatar Mark is right, rowan...the neo-cons were once neo-Trotskyites


Gravatar "Thomas P. Barnett, who has this theory that the international system is divided between nations belonging to the "Core" and those belonging to the "Banana Republic"...ooops...sorry..to the "Gap." BTW, Barnett stole this nonsense from Latin American Marxists and their Dependencia Theory."

http:// globalparadigms.blogspot....01_archive.html

Dependencia Theory says it all, the NANNY state.

"Domestic prices were controlled and manipulated, and subsidies were widespread. Many industries and activities were nationalized. A jungle of controls and regulations grew throughout the economy. The way to make money was by making one's way through the administrative and bureaucratic maze rather than by developing and serving markets. Overall, what guided the economy were bureaucratic and political decisions, not signals and feedback from the market." - basically a who you know economy.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/ commandi...ependencia.html


Gravatar Judea Pearl goes straight to the chairman of the Washington Post

heh-heh ...


Gravatar Pearl,.. said he first called Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, when he read Gandhi's comments. The ADL had already issued a statement saying even Gandhi's apology was offensive and did not ease concerns that he believed Israel and Jews propagate a "culture of violence."


Gravatar Next: Now that India is sitting on some cash, Jews sue for giant reparations, how their kind, sensitive souls suffered because of Gandhi's offensive apology.
The train is in motion ...

(A bit of advice: never, ever apologize to Jews for anything, never yield a single inch, the only response they respect)


Gravatar Several hours have now passed, but I still cannot believe what I witnessed between 1 and 2 O’clock this afternoon. Perhaps I am a bit slow to catch on; but I could never have anticipated, even in my wildest dreams, what those three BRDDR judges did to Sylvia.

http:// www.adelaideinstitute.org...ermanScene6.htm
Glenz charges that Revisionists are not willing to accept and acknowledge official Offenkundigkeit - Manifest Obviousness. Then he says their “perverted picture of mankind” ultimately leads even to questioning the legitimacy of the BRDDR!

[Here we have it – “Das ist des Pudels Kern!” as Faust would say -- the question of the legitimacy of the present regime. The political elite has always known the BRDDR lacks legitimacy, and now this realization is spreading throughout the general population.]

Then Glenz tries to compare Auschwitz and Dresden, saying there is no more rubble and the Frauenkirche has been rebuilt, but he apparently loses his train of thought. He proudly emphasizes that he has consistently forbidden the introduction of documentary, empirical, or forensic evidence in Sylvia’s trial. He says that Sylvia, a defender of Revisionists, deliberately acted in a disruptive manner. In fact, she continues to do so, and to deny “Holocaust” as well.

Glenz says there is a danger she will continue her criminal activities. He says that German society can be protected only if she is immediately disbarred.

Then Judge Glenz talks about the legal bases for his verdict. Several counts of her indictment did not come under Section 130, such as collaborating with Horst Mahler, disparaging state organizations and functions with expressions such “Show Trial” and “Talmudic Inquisition,” and by comparing this trial to the Nuremberg Military Tribunal. “Coercion,” another of the counts that did not come under Section 130, refers to Sylvia’s admonition that under international law the BRDDR is not a legitimate government, since the victors of World War II never signed a peace treaty with Germany. The puppet governments they imposed were never approved by plebiscite, therefore the laws of the Reich are still the legitimate government, even though the Reich in unable to enforce its laws at present.


Gravatar that was from:
Day 18 of the “Holocaust” Trial of Attorney Sylvia Stolz
In Mannheim Kangaroo Court, 14 January 2008 Sylvia’s Verdict, Sentencing and Arrest
Hail Sylvia!
In case the Court is unwilling to suspend proceedings, Attorney Bock moves that he be released from his duty to defend Sylvia, saying he does not want to serve as a fig leaf for such a disgraceful and dishonorable show trial.
***“In the Name of the People!” - Yes, But Which People?


Gravatar the only Manifest Obviousness I see is that Judge Glenz is a Jew.


Gravatar According to ADL, Ghandhi's apology is well, as far as you have taken it, isn't enough...where is the cash?

"Your apology is appropriate and welcome, as far as you have taken it. While you may have clarified some of the substance of your original comments, what is sadly lacking in your latest posting is a retraction of the suggestion that Jews "overplay" the Holocaust to manipulate the international community...This is a classic attempt to blame the victim."

http://www.adl.org/media_watch/ i...dhi_OnFaith.htm


Gravatar It must be Manifest(ly) Obviousness to the sane german that this state of affairs is insane. I just read about what Martin Walser said "using Auschwitz as a moral club". Sounds like someone I could get along with.


Gravatar slight typo, i see, laurie, should read: amoral club, certainly not a club i'd want to be a member of.


Gravatar Laurie | 01.20.08 - 9:35 pm | #

I had assumed Laurie was making that up as parody (cf. Lobra @ 7:50) but then I followed the think.

Unavoidable realities:

these folks are psychopaths

they are running the world

the gods must be crazy


Gravatar the link


Gravatar John Kaminski: Control of your mind
By Stophypocrisy
“Western society is controlled by the Jews with music, TV, houses,
cars, [and] free sex”
? David Hicks,
an Australian idealist arrested in Afghanistan
http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.co...com/blog/? p=244
In Germany, a lawyer is on trial for defending her client against
Jewish mind control lies. The court says she committed a crime by even
talking about the alleged crimes her client, Ernst Zündel, supposedly
committed.

The lawyer Sylvia Stolz, asks: ?Is it even possible to indict a defense
attorney for taking his or her professional obligation seriously and
doing everything possible to meet those obligations? If the answer to
the question is ?yes? then the answer is further proof of Talmudic
supremacy in Germany. However, it is obvious to all that such tyranny
can no longer be called ?justice.??


Gravatar There have been many political systems in which communism was the least "pro-jewish" movement in action.


Gravatar Anglo-judaic-marxists are revelling in Germany's ongoing self-inflicted mental castration, also moral castration, as part of the Treaty of Versailles & its enforcement at the Nuremburg Trials et sequellae.


Gravatar But forgetting, righteo, there have been years of freedom and another war and destruction in between.


Gravatar It wasn't self inflicted, i believe, this occupation and enforced foul history.


Gravatar Not forgetting that at all, Fritz!
WWII & Nuremberg were all about enforcing Versailles, which was all about the economic & spiritual humiliation of Germany. Especially by the anglo-judeo-marxists, who still insist on the spiritual humilation of Germany, if not the economic part. Though that still operates through the subsidies paid to the entity.


Gravatar yes, righteo.


Gravatar What I mean is the verdicts such as on Zundel, Rudolf, Stoltz, are self-inflicted moral & mental castration. When one reads the convulsions of the judges at these trials, it seems to me they are fully aware of the injustice they are perpetrating, but they must press ahead with it, because this is imposed on them as agents of the BDR, a puppet government of the anglo-judeo-marxists. What does Germany want to have next, a nuking?


Gravatar marxists think in capitalist terms

-- jeepers, those cunning marxist bastards.


Gravatar that was a reference to this gem from fritz:

Barnett's definition of the USA as for-profit-nation-state, an investment corporation, proves that marxists think in capitalist terms,- as the Jews do, since they come from an tradition of merchants but an extremely materialistic one.
This doesn't work out, since other people often still have other values and aims, and now that this investment in security has become terrorist obsessed, the shareholder values are dropping.
Fritz | 01.20.08 - 6:25 pm | #


Gravatar Ehud Barack Obama lays down the law to his putative brothers: "The scourge of anti-Semitism has, at times, revealed itself in our community"
http://www.barackobama.com/2008/ ...ack_obam_40.php


Gravatar A senior Republican advisor says since it is 'politically impossible' for Bush to attack Iran, the job should be 'outsourced' to Israel, PressTV reported. If Tehran does not halt its nuclear program, Israel will 'inevitably' wreak mayhem on Iran, wrote Norman Podhoretz in the February edition of Commentary. Podhoretz, who is considered as one of the founders of neoconservatism, insists that Israel may even be forced to attack Iran's Arab neighbors to prevent them from assisting Tehran if the country acquires nuclear technology. The neocon godfather is said to have a close relationship with President George W. Bush and is now serving as the foreign policy advisor to Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani. Podhoretz stated a year ago that the current administration will strike Iran's nuclear facilities before the US president leaves office. However, the US National Intelligence Estimate released in December concluded that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. Podhoretz claimed the NIE report made it 'politically impossible' for the Bush administration to wage war on Iran as the international community believes Iran's nuclear program is civilian.


Gravatar parents are refusing to pay the extra $600 (US) equivalent that they are now being asked to pay to send their offspring on the hate trip to auschwitz:
http://www.ynetnews.com/ articles...3496662,00.html


Gravatar I've just finished reading the Podhoretz article, it is here:
http://www.commentarymagazine.co...ll-Stands- 11085

there is nothing new in it.


Gravatar smekhovo | 01.20.08 - 11:36 pm - and which ones would those be?


Gravatar Israel isn't going to attack Iran or anyone one else because they know perfectly well that by going out on a limb that far, they run the risk of having it sawed off. The NIE report wasn't lost on them.


Gravatar No but the apeshit noise about Iran nicely muffles the actual horrors being visited on Gazans.

Like a murderer turning on the television to cover the screams of the victim.


Gravatar you are obviously a very low level troll tasked with smearing him as an "anti-semite" (yawn)
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.20.08 - 12:22 pm

Huh? Explain the thinking behind that conclusion, please. 5 years in the slammer for expressing an opinion in Neocon Germany makes Germany, not Zundell or his lawyer, guilty of a serious crime against free speech - purloined holus-bolus from Planet Of The Apes. Innit?


Gravatar "...talking fluent idiomatic hebrew to the army interviewers." - how would you know this unless you could already speak it?


Gravatar one can tell, laurie, if one is a trained intellgience agent...

oops.

now I shall have to go around killing everyone who reads this, dammit.


Gravatar What did the israeli army radio guys call Ian Black?

Was it "Ian" or was it "Ehud" or some other hebrew name?

One might presume that "Ian Black" is a cunning gentile-sounding nym, no?


Gravatar righteo, there is something really to think about your argument "self-inflicted". I'm not so sure from which point of view though. It is sort of a nightmare but people don't wake up. Of course, could say these judges are Khazars, and in any case they are btw. destroying justice, since refusing to prove their allegations with evidence.
But more since the plain lies about the WMDs/ Iraq war and the plain terror against the Palestinians, one can observe an enforcement of talmudic lies on people, by all foul means. Also about WW2 and Bolshevist slaughter.
The more, it could be, that around 1900 much was wrong, "self-inflicted, that western societies had been too materialistic and power obsessed. This could have developed more harmoniously though, but the interests of the international money mongers did give politics this direction into disasters.
If there was a way, one has to think about real basic changes, and for single people it is already possible to turn away from this obsession with materialism of the mainstream. May this turn out that we find out, we're dreaming.


Gravatar no, they called him Ian.

I suppose that I should answer Laurie's question seriously. i have been listening to israeli radio for longer than I have been on the internet, in fact about seven or eight years. I have never found it difficult to detect the accents of people not brought up as native hebrew speakers.


Gravatar Well, modern Russia, China, Cuba, etc. for a start.


Gravatar "The scourge of anti-Semitism has, at times, revealed itself in our community"

Someone might have replied with
"The scourge of Semitism has, at all times, been a fixture in our community"


Gravatar Smehovo, first modern russia? define. The only jews russia has problems with are the oligarchies. Russia used them in the 80's & 90's as barganing chips, but that worked to the advantage of world jewery as well because then they could scream anitisemitism. If china had problems with jews, western banks wouldn't be there. In general china has problems with anyone who isn't han, there is nothing special about the jews. Cuba? Once they ran out the jewish mob what problem was there?


Gravatar Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.21.08 - 9:20 am - ah huh.


Gravatar Sorry Smehovo I got confused. Rabboni Berkeley upset me.


Gravatar Ok smehovo I think I have my thoughts together better now.

The reason marxism/communism is not a good system both socially and economically is that it allows a relatively few to control the many. In this way it is joo friendly. True capitalism on the other hand (which is not what we have today) encourages everyone some control in the form of private ownership. One of the responsibilities of government in a capitalistic society is to create and enforce laws which prohibit monopolies. In those areas where monopolies make the most sense, as in defense, governments should operate and control them. Only a living, fluctuating market can decide true value.


Gravatar what you have today is the truest capitalism there is, the actually existing capitalism. everything else is fantasy.


Gravatar i am afraid rowan makes sense, laurie

capitalism is a 100% amoral system, jews are a 100% amoral people, hence they are made for each other.


Gravatar Medieval market economy had been a basis for long times. Goethe said in Faust, that Mephisto has invented paper money. So he had a certain suspicion.
Marxist movements and social democrats in the 1920s and before in Russia had surprising many Jews as agitators. They claimed it as emancipation. The results are downplayed today in the media but not forgotten.
Capitalism perhaps, can be limited by the state. Is it a natural law as economists claim? In the middle ages the social authority controlled if the weights were correct and the coins... Also in the Orient market trade has functioned.


Gravatar If you could stop enjoying yourself with the deceptive simplicities of ideology, and address such things as the enclosures of land ('privatisations' in todays terms), the driving of the peasants into the cities, the erection of workhouses, etc., then you might finally grasp the difference between a medieval agrarian economy and a modern manufacturing one.


Gravatar pooh, if capitalism was jewish the rabbi would be for it.

Rabboni, people (peasants is a tern elitist like) were driven off their land under communism as well. How do you explain the rise in living standards and life expectancy in modern society if capitalism is so bad. Compare it with modern marxist societies.


Gravatar you're quite right Fritz.


Gravatar George Knupffer explains a kinder, gentler capitalism.

We do not have capitalism today. There is far, far, far too much government interference and cronyism.


Gravatar smekhovo | 01.20.08 - 11:36 pm

the history of Communism in the Soviet from the Revolution to beyond late Stalinism discredits the Maenichean outlook re Jews and elsewise,weakens the Economic Man argument--and strengthens the premises of cultural nationalism, spiritual racism, etc.


Gravatar Russia used them in the 80's & 90's as barganing chips, but that worked to the advantage of world jewery as well because then they could scream anitisemitism

History will record the rejectionist Arabs aided by the Soviet, effected a significant net MINUS on Israel.


Gravatar Yes, my point was that when socialism disappeared from Russia it became clear that, in its later stage, it had at least been preserving the country from jewish depredations.
It seems to me, Laurie, that you might like Chesterton's Distributism.


Gravatar Thanks smekhovo

http://www.chesterton.org/gkc/ di...stributist.html


Gravatar lobro, Barnett sounds Jew to me!!!


Gravatar yup, it is a name that would appeal to them, i.e., would be stolen frequently, sort of like Canadian passport manufacture in Mossad HQ.
Speaking of which, i wonder if Canadian guv't has colluded and let them have the knowhow to forge them at will.


Gravatar Just looking at this "Distributism" - I did not know about, but my oldest ideas were that of gardens, small farms or handicrafts, like the old "alternatives", the (real) greens or ökos were thinking some time ago. There must be many ideas to be found, and also for factories should be a way to make them more humane. Perhaps Anthroposophs (Rudolf Steiner) have more about that too.
Very good.


Gravatar Fascist nonsense about Goethe and "Faust" ("Fritz") is nothing new. Karl Marx took from "Faust" the scene of capital digging it's own grave: Faust is blinded, and believe to be hearing all his projects progress. But what he really hears is the sound of the lemurs digging his own grave. Faust is thought as a symbol for mankind, with all it's silly illusions about "progress". This is far above anything which "Fritz" and most contributors here are able to understand and learn from (to learn is to learn something about oneself in the world). "Faust" and "Capital" are a far cry from this childish soap-TV-world most commentators here seem to be living in.

Here is a good description of the current state of the US (and thus world) economy:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/ cartoo...1935747,00.html


Gravatar Ukrainian Holocaust of 1932-33
by Eric S. Margolis
Six million other farmers across the Soviet Union were starved or shot during collectivization. Stalin told Winston Churchill he liquidated 10 million peasants during the 1930s. Add mass executions by the Cheka in Estonia, Lativia and Lithuania, the genocide of three million Muslims, massacres of Cossacks and Volga Germans, and Soviet industrial genocide accounted for at least 40 million victims, not including 20 million war dead.
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/154044
Kaganovitch and many senior OGPU officers (later, NKVD) were Jewish. The predominance of Jews among Bolshevik leaders and the frightful crimes and cruelty inflicted by Stalin’s Checka on Ukraine, the Baltic states and Poland led the victims of Red Terror to blame the Jewish people for both communism and their suffering. As a direct result, during the subsequent Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe, the region’s innocent Jews became the target of ferocious revenge by Ukrainians, Balts and Poles.....
Western historians delicately skirt the sordid fact that the governments of Britain, the U.S. and Canada were fully aware of the Ukrainian genocide and Stalin’s other monstrous crimes. Yet they eagerly welcomed him as an ally during the Second World War....
Modern leftists do not care to be reminded their ideological and historical roots are entwined with this century’s greatest crime - the inevitable result of enforced social engineering and Marxist theology.


Gravatar anonymous idiot, since when is now talking about Goethe also fascist nonsense? you're posing as a Bolshevic


Gravatar and then proposing the "guardian" rag would tell the real situation!
anonymous bolshevic, this have not been illustrations about Geothes Faust here, - yet. Whom the readers of Marx Capital don't understand anyways.


Gravatar Global climate, bolshevic, is full bullsh*t.


Gravatar Bolton: US intelligence has become politicized
By HAVIV RETTIG

The 2007 US National Intelligence Estimate, as well as the skewed reporting around it, is a sign of the "illegitimate politicization" of the American intelligence establishment, according to former US ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton.
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/154032
"Generating intelligence ... should be separated from intelligence analysts who impose their own policy views on the intelligence they generate," insisted Bolton, who is in the country to attend the Herzliya Conference this week.
Furthermore, said Bolton, the NIE "doesn't say what you probably think it says.


Gravatar Hail To The Traitor - :

Bush Dined with Spy, Pollard's Handler in "Israel"

... [Convicted spy, Jonathan] Pollard was on the unofficial agenda throughout Bush's visit [to "Israel"]. The case "came up" during day-long meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, according to Olmert's spokesman Mark Regev, who declined to provide further details.

Israel's deputy prime minister handed Bush letters from Esther Pollard and from a rabbi who heads a prominent religious party. And Bush's dinner companions included cabinet minister Rafi Eitan, Pollard's former spy handler and unindicted co-conspirator who is barred from traveling to the United States. Israeli news reports later quoted Eitan as saying there was "a chance" Pollard would soon be freed ... (Jonathan Finer, "Bush Trip Revives Israeli Push for Pardon of Spy," Washington Post, January 15, 2008 )


Of course, "Dirty" Rafi Eitan is the father of the sayanim project in US and elsewhere, Jews pretending to be loyal citizens (kinda anonymous) but relied on to stab the host country in the back when Mossad calls.


Gravatar Loyal citizens, one Canadian, another American:
http://thumbsnap.com/v/SqmfGxLo.jpg

If you doubt it, you are a Denier, fascist, y'know, stuff like that.


Gravatar (the above article about the Ukraine was 10 years old but reposted by radical press)
KILLING THE HUNDREDTH MONKEY:
The Battle for Control and Censorship of Canada’s Internet
by the B’nai Brith and the Canadian Jewish Congress
By Arthur Topham
The Radical Press
(although he admires Tim Leary)
http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=628
“What kills a skunk is the publicity it gives itself.”
~ Abraham Lincoln

lengthy article about the internet and rights situation in Canada

Then there’s the case of the Canadian Website Publisher Reni Sentana-Ries of Edmonton who recently was sentenced to 16 months in jail for the crime of offending Jews. On and on and on, case after case it is always this 1% or less of the Canadian population who seems hell-bent on turning Canada into some Orwellian nightmare where people are coerced and cajoled through fear and intimidation and litigation into thinking that they have to keep their mouths shut or else some Bolshevik Cheka agent might appear at their door with a “complaint” in hand and off they must go to try in vain to justify their existence before a “Tribunal”...
and bibliography


Gravatar haloscan has a memory hole today, a time lag.


Gravatar All that has happened is that the jewish american brainwashers have mostly stopped filling your heads with left wing fantasy and are now filling them with right wing fantasy instead.


Gravatar aha. interesting, how did you know that.


Gravatar it's obvious, fritz. you just need to wake up from your own brainwashing to see it.


Gravatar obviously, Lenin & Trotsky allowed jewish cliques to gain control of all the party committees, whereas Stalin started to kick them out when he gained power.


Gravatar there is a lot about this on peter myers' site:
http://users.cyberone.com.au/mye...rs/ zioncom.html


Gravatar Jews had controlled the party committees from the very beginning - in fact at the first RSDRP meeting of all not a single goy was present.


Gravatar lobro | 01.21.08 - 10:03 pm - bushie is such a frick'n tool.

Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.22.08 - 2:27 am - why yes, and as you have said before, Stalin wasn't a real marxist in the rosa luxenburg sense, he was a nationalist. Seems you've come full circle.


Gravatar Ok, so when stalin came to power, he gradually started aiming towards a non jewish party command structure, so they had to kill him, but at the same time, they had to accept that they probably wouldn't be able to maintain jewish control using marxist-leninist ideology anyway without ever escalating and blatant contradictions, so they promptly "rediscovered" right wing thought.


Gravatar All of which supports my belief that jews are neither right or left but only self serving. This includes rosa.


Gravatar I don't see any basis except pure racism for asserting that 'rosa' or any other individual was 'only self serving'. Generalisation is a product of ignorance.


Gravatar generalizations are what laws are based on. Deal


Gravatar if you want to base laws on generalisations, you have to substantiate them statistically according to parameters that everyone can agree on and accept. no deal there.


Gravatar you can only provide the exception to the rule, the preponderance of evidence supports my idea.


Gravatar btw not everyone has to agree, only the people who count...at least in a marxist society.


Gravatar the preponderance of evidence obviously suggests that everyone is looking out for their own interests, and that the only political variable is whether they consider their own interests better served by forming cliques, as jews do.


Gravatar Well now that could be debated. It's obviously your world view, and nietzsche's as well. Frankly i don't find a great deal wrong with it but it don't square with your marxist, all for one and one for all unless you start viewing marx through nationalist eyes. Would you like to go there?


Gravatar it isn't "obviously my word view". In fact, it isn't MY world view at all.


Gravatar Ahh right my fault, I forgot you are out to save people...at the expense of other people.


Gravatar laurie, please refrain from telling me what I think.


Gravatar Rosa Luxemburg may have said the "sweetest" thing but 1918 she, Karl Liebknecht and their Spartakus supported the bolshevic revolution in Russia.
not necessary to read that all, just some phrases, but also she claimed "non violence at times", from
What Does the Spartacus League Want? Rosa Luxemburg
http://www.marxists.org/archive/.../1918/12/ 14.htm
http://www.marxists.org/archive/...mburg/ index.htm

The Prussian saber's mania of world rule had bled to death on the battlefields of France. The gang of criminals who sparked a worldwide conflagration and drove Germany into an ocean of blood... The people-betrayed for four years, having forgotten culture, honesty, and humanity in the service of the Moloch, available for every obscene deed-awoke from its four-year long paralysis, only to face the abyss.........
In this hour, socialism is the only salvation for humanity. The words of the Communist Manifesto flare like a fiery menetekel......
During the bourgeois revolutions, bloodshed, terror, and political murder were an indispensable weapon in the hand of the rising classes.
The proletarian revolution requires no terror for its aims; it hates and despises killing. [B] It does not need these weapons because it does not combat individuals but institutions,....
All this resistance must be broken step by step, with an iron fist and ruthless energy. The violence of the bourgeois counterrevolution must be confronted with the revolutionary violence of the proletariat......
the million-headed proletarian mass seizes the entire power of the state in its calloused fist -- using it to smash the head of the ruling classes: that alone is democracy, that alone is not a betrayal of the people....


The Russian tragedy 1918
The Bolsheviks have certainly made a number of mistakes in their policies and are perhaps still making them – but where is the revolution in which no mistakes have been made! The notion of a revolutionary policy without mistakes, and moreover, in a totally unprecedented situation, is so absurd that it is worthy only of a German schoolmaster. If the so-called leaders of German socialism lose their so-called heads in such an unusual situation as a vote in the Reichstag...
The awkward position that the Bolsheviks are in today, however, is, together with most of their mistakes, a consequence of basic insolubility of the problem posed to them by he international, above all the German, proletariat. To carry out the dictatorship of the proletariat and a socialist revolution in a single country surrounded by reactionary imperialist rule and in the fury of the bloodiest world war in human history – that is squaring the circle....


Gravatar Fritz, Here are some nifty pictures of the German forces in Russia during WWII. The Russians look fairly happy.
http://englishrussia.com/?p=1736

And pictures of American aid to the great Bolshevik enterprise. Couldn't have done it without you Amerikanski.
http://englishrussia.com/?p=1722

If you have nothing better to do, take a look at the comments. They will give you some insight into prevalent Russian thinking today.


Gravatar Or what?

Just trying to pin down what you think Rowan dear. You say you want to join the jews, so you do have a mental category called jew and yet when some other peoples classify themselves you invoke the marxist idea that everyone is equal, so why became a jew? It sounds to me like all animals are equal it's just that some are more equal than others in your mind.


Gravatar Ding Dong the witch is back...


Gravatar Lobro, Why so unhappy about Pollard? He was a mid-level civilian functionary at the US Dept of the Navy who managed to copy classified Navy manuals regarding US submarine movements and components, which he squirreled to the izzy embassy in DC. From whence they went to izzieland, who sold the information to Russia. When this became known, the US listening submarines were down for some time, until their various components could be refitted.

Ultimately, Russia benefitted much more from Pollards spying than did the izzies. Doesn't that make you jump for joy?


Gravatar Laurie, Somewhere it slipped by that you were asking for "legal" ideas re Germany. You should take advantage of your attributes. You should have noticed by now that aging, frumpy American female tourists are a dime a dozen and just don't cross the vision line of most people, including police. In other words, they are unseen. Print an appropriate number of leaflets, hancuff yourself to the nearest fence to the izzy embassy. You'll be there a while before the police notice you. And if you've thrown away the key, it'll take some time to use a hacksaw on the handcuffs. At most, you will spend a couple of hours giving explanations at a police station. Where's your sense of adventure? Or are you just a middle-aged, mid-western female whose adventurousness has gone no further than safely pontificating in a dark room?


Gravatar this comment again is a bit unfriendly, and the legal situation is not so much on the streets,
but i was going to write, surprise, this time kassandra has brought some good pictures back, thanks, and about the huge US weapons shipments in WW2, it's known, but also known that 75% to over 8O% of Americans did not want into war against Germany. They were tricked into it with the Pearl Harbor fraud, by Roosevelt, Baruch, Morgenthau, Churchill, Stalin and others.
Today sometimes voices are coming from Finnland that also remember WW2 differently than the massmedia show it.


Gravatar I am not going to waste my time and energy dealing with your insinuations, Laurie.


Gravatar President Roosevelt's Campaign To Incite War in Europe:
The Secret Polish Documents
MARK WEBER
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/ v04p1...p135_Weber.html
When the Germans took Warsaw in late September 1939, they seized a mass of documents from the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs. In a letter of 8 April 1983, Dr. Karl Otto Braun of Munich informed me that the documents were captured by an SS brigade led by Freiherr von Kuensberg, whom Braun knew personally. In a surprise attack, the brigade captured the center of Warsaw ahead of the regular German army. Von Kuensberg told Braun that his men took control of the Polish Foreign Ministry just as Ministry officials were in the process of burning incriminating documents. Dr. Braun was an official of the German Foreign Office between 1938 and 1945.


Gravatar Insinuate? I insinuated nothing. I stated very clearly that you have a double standard, in an artistic way of course so as not to offend. The Brits would call my approach 'civilized'... don't you think it is?


Gravatar Fritz | 01.22.08 - 9:52 am - good one Fritz, we're a regular tag team. I'll be thinking of you and Xeno when I'm in Deutschland.


Gravatar Good point kassy, the german authorities should DEFINATELY be looking for a frumpy, poorly aging, american woman, with bad teeth.

Thank god for profiling.


Gravatar Well, then, I shall state that you have a hairy, smelly cunt. Evidence doesn't seem to be a criterion for anything anyone states around here.


Gravatar I knew sooner or later the old rowan would be back with his nasty little mouth or rather big mouth. Did you notice how lobro made me feel bad without using nasty words. You might learn from him. God I feel like I have to fight both sides of the battle.

I have or I am...? Because one you would need proof for, the other is opinion.


Gravatar The fact that you got nasty first means I win. When you play a game with someone it's always nice to play with someone who is better at it than you because that way you learn. I think I'll pick on lobro now, be did beautifully the other day.

i don't really think your working for the jews rowan, you're just a bit inconsistent.


Gravatar my point was, if you start bollocks like this

"Insinuate? I insinuated nothing. I stated very clearly that you have a double standard, in an artistic way of course so as not to offend. The Brits would call my approach 'civilized'... don't you think it is?"

you will get shat on.


Gravatar ....
probably bad childhood, not enough pocket money (in the little boy's opinion) hates parents, blackmails father, decided to go to the communist party - who was that? R.B.? No, Karl Marx - read letters.
---


Gravatar Actually I need to revise what I said having given it a little more thought. Lobro didn't make me feel bad, that isn't the intent, the intent is to score a point of argument. He got me to admit I have guilt, by tricking me. What lobro did the other day that I find so clever was he got me to think he was talking about me (and maybe he really was but it can't be proven by the words he wrote) which caused me to react. It was like a puppet master pulling a string. It's playing a strategic game. I love it.


Gravatar An innocent bystander like myself saw lobro's words for what they were. No insult/backhanded remark nor any inference at all. Just a misunderstood quip.
lobro is a gentleman for sure. He obviously has no need nor desire to cause anyone here any pain.
Especially you Laurie.
Now maybe I'm so dense as to miss something intellectually sly, some loberian subterfuge. That is possible, probable even..
Rowan, Smekhovo and Grettir leave me wondering, quite often, if I am indeed a moron. Lucky for me that I don't overly care if I am a slacker in things mundane, no matter how urgent or definitive they may be or seem to be.


Gravatar huh


Gravatar lol, our guv is loaded with these cretins...like Maxime Bernier...ministry of foreign affairs!!!


Gravatar hp | 01.22.08 - 3:29 pm - you are so very kind hp. You have wisdom where the rest of us may have a bit of knowledge and we all know what is more precious. You are in a very good place. I like lobro a lot, no doubt about it but I think he chooses to be a gentleman as I choose (and not terribly often) to be a lady. He's a crocodile with a great big smile but a crocodile none the less.


Gravatar Jews re-discovering the "right" was a defensive move in the period discussed wherein they lost power on balance, which Berkeley's post left obfuscated.


Gravatar On this one occasion I have foudn the reference for you ken:

Ok, so when stalin came to power, he gradually started aiming towards a non jewish party command structure, so they had to kill him, but at the same time, they had to accept that they probably wouldn't be able to maintain jewish control using marxist-leninist ideology anyway without ever escalating and blatant contradictions, so they promptly "rediscovered" right wing thought.
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 01.22.08 - 8:35 am | #


and it doesnt leave anything obfuscated.


Gravatar You're calling Great Russian military socialism a tool of the Jews or using bad syntax, which would be better than lying.


Gravatar I am not saying that the USSR was both at once, but that first it was the one, then it was the other.


Gravatar Jews had controlled the party committees from the very beginning - in fact at the first RSDRP meeting of all not a single goy was present.
smekhovo | 01.22.08 - 8:31 am |

Try telling that to Kass, she's got no quarrel with Jews, only Russians, you know, like "Ultimately, Russia benefitted much more from Pollards spying than did the izzies."

Now if she can tell us why is it that Izzies are going ape to have the Russian hero pardoned, while Russians are keeping mum, I will jump for joy.

I guess it furthermore proves that knesset is 100% Russian ...




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