Obama wouldn't be a serious candidate unless he was a friend of the shitty little country. But assuming he does have a microcosm of independence from the shitty little country, if he was elected following a breakdown of their electronic voting and general election rigging machinations, he would be duly assassinated. If they can kill 3000 people in broad daylight on live TV, they can easily kill one man.
I share your apparent dislike of the pathetic Amy Winehouse, one of their creatures pushing their drug culture, along with others like Pete Doherty and Kate Moss, who looks more weird every time I see her latest propaganda photo.
And Israel's 60 anniversary has been conspicuously hushed up. No world rejoicing for this criminal enterprise. Gangsters have to keep quiet about the spoils of their crimes unless they want the public to start asking difficult questions, such as what right has Israel got to exist at all on someone else's land.
"Russian-American" - a nice euphemism!
zymph, if you're right about this here:
"...Real American interests are to cooperate with Iran..."
... Then maybe something serious IS going on behind the curtains.
This was Les Visible's comment back in April. Just over a month a go it seemed... well, kosher:
"I may be going out on a limb here but it seems to me that the main goal of the neo-con psychopaths in PNAC was and is Iran. Now it goes without saying that PNAC is dominated by dual national, Israeli/Americans and that the whole putsch of the organization is to benefit the interests of Israel..."
http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.c...oney-
river.html
Now, not so. Is the War in Heaven moving in mysterious ways?
Consider another high-ranking sailor just got sent to the showers like Admiral Fallon before him. The PNAC-attack on non-Iran-war-groupies seems to be unfolding with MORE vigor, not less.
Likewise no threat from the citizens contra the Bushreich has materialized. Too many people working two jobs and still losing their houses means not much activism, and some of us suspect the subprime bear trap was arranged with this little side effect in mind.
So what gives?
Are there REALLY American elites on my side? And the side of sanity and good global citizenship besides?
Maybe, but the biggest threats I ever heard about are the quiet ones, the ones that become public only later, sometimes MUCH later.
Sabotage is happening in America and it's being directed at various activities. Maybe Homeland Security and FEMA and NSA/ATF/DEA et al cannot be killed outright but the nation still has lots of sugar for lots of GS gastanks and what with gas prices going up for Police State operatives just like the rest of us... (not to mention replacing all them engines.)
GWEN towers and cable lines go down for no reason. Strange stuff. Stuff that's starting to add up.
The revolution is silent sabotage. Everywhere. Nowhere. Can't organize a political movement without Government harassment? Don't. Just splice some cables. Make some lights go out. Adopt a bridge: Help it fall. I hear things; we all do. How intense is it getting? Your local paper will never say.
Studies since the 90s have wondered what would happen when the inevitable came: The cost of living finally rises higher than US citizens can afford to pay. The studies (ie, Ford Foundation, 1994) were low-key, sparse.
Now their all over the damn place and in headless-chicken hysterics.
My guess is worth nothing, considering I've been irritably aware for a long time that the US is heading for revolution no matter what else comes first. But here's my guess anyway:
The Powers That Be are scared shitless. The economy is tanking LOTS faster than they anticipated and when it's kneecapped to the point not even Fox News can happy-face it off the table, Iran will be the least of their worries.
Maybe they re
NF: I have no idea what happened to that last paragraph. Not important. Too long anyway! Happy Midweek to us all. 
"The revolution is silent sabotage. Everywhere. Nowhere. Can't organize a political movement without Government harassment? Don't. Just splice some cables. Make some lights go out. Adopt a bridge: Help it fall."
— Franz | 05.14.08 - 5:18 am | #
Hi Franz,
Which cable do I splice? And how do I go about collapsing a bridge? And how do I stir up the populace to give me a hand? Write a letter to my local paper advocating Revolution?
I love what you say, Franz . . . but you must guard against wishful thinking and fantasy.
Can you see the news headline:
"Sixty Million Convicted of Malicious Damage! Lights out in Eighty Cities! Nation's Water Supply Contaminated! Hospitals Overrun! Universal Panic! President says, You Little People Win, We'll stop Fighting Wars for the Jews!"
May 14, 2008
Obama vs. The Lobby
No matter how much he grovels, it's never enough
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?
a...articleid=12834
On a more serious note: what can we do to extricate ourselves from this perilous situation? The answer is: very little except agitate. We must wait for historical forces to supervene. Things change only when there is a concatenation of events that favour change and make it inevitable.
What produced the French Revolution, an event that completely overturned the ancien regime? A parlous, rockbottom, things-can't-get-worse situation combined with the emergence of a few remarkable men. In other words, two factors are necessary for change: (1) The time must be ripe, and (2) Remarkable men must emerge.
We see both these factors at the fore in India's fight for Independence. The time for granting India its Independence had come — for the simple reason that the British Empire was on its knees after WW2, and could no longer sustain the burden of policing India. As for the remarkable man who helped to bring about India's Independence, it was Mahatma Gandhi.
In order to end the Jewish stranglehold on America and Europe, what will be needed, first of all, is the emergence of a truly remarkable man. He will have to have the status and charisma of Gandhi in order to lead the masses in a concerted campaign of passive resistance against their tyrannical rulers.
Passive resistance means the refusal to vote, since there is no one worth voting for. It is the refusal to pay taxes. It is the refusal to cooperate with the police. It is the refusal to go on working for slavemasters, i.e., organized general strikes must be arranged.
Right now it would need someone with the status of a Pope or ex-President Carter to play the part of Gandhi in bringing about the longed-for change. Neither of these two men will do. They are too old, too tame, too lacking in charisma.
What is the answer? The answer is: to wait. Wait patiently. Ripeness is all.
"Real American interests are to cooperate with Iran" - yes, absolutely.
From Xmph link to the Asia Times: The Saudis, enraged by what was happened in Beirut, realized that Iran - and the Syrians - had taken the upper hand in Beirut. The Saudis don't need the americans to tell them if Iran becomes the number one power in the ME, the house of Saud's days are numbered.
I'm a bit suspicious of this by Nasrallah ""If they told us to come take over, we would say 'no thank you'." Mahathir always denied he wanted to rule malaysia but he did for twenty-two years. As Nasrallah's supporters argue he is a pragmatic leader, and a cunning statesman who excels in psychological warfare.
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/? a...articleid=12834
— US taxpayer | 05.14.08 - 6:20 am | #
"It will be interesting to see if American racists who would never vote for a black man will vote for Obama in order to avoid the stark horror of being forced to fight More Wars For The Jews."
— Xymphora
Is Obama the man the world is waiting for? If the leopard can change his spots once he springs from the cage, the answer is — MAYBE!
In other words, first Obama must be elected. Then he must ungrovel and do a volte-face . . . and fix the Ancient Enemy once and for all.
It is an amazing election: if American racists can do the right thing, which would have a long-term massive effect on racial attitudes in the United States (not to mention elsewhere), they could avoid the disaster of More Wars For The Jews. Otherwise, the United States is completely fucked.
Wrong. With Obama as pres THEY will get whatever wars they want. The only massive effect on attitudes will be the naive white people who finally realize that even with an affirmative action president, the racial dialogue will continue to be a one way conversation that consists of "open your wallet and say your sorry whitey". Minority demands will simply escalate with their black massa in charge. The only racial resolution liberals and respectable conservatives can agree on is the slow grinding destruction of everything white. This won't change regardless of who mediates the racial conversation at this point.
Xymph did get one thing right, America is fucked, regardless of which puppet is chosen. This fact will remain as long as Americans continue to watch and believe the mainstream media which reinforces every destructive force currently at play in their crumbling society. TV is mental AIDS.
Let's just keep in mind, none of this revolutionary stuff happens without a lot of blood. Also keep in mind Animal Farm. The animals thought they were going to be free under the pigs, the pigs told them so. And also the reign of terror came after the french revolution.
http://hubriticanomaly.blogspot....er-
picture.html
excerpt:
Robert Fisk: Lebanon descends into chaos as rival leaders order general strike
There is a persistent rumour in Beirut that the Israelis were about to stage such an operation against the Hizbollah-controlled southern suburbs of Beirut on 28 April but that it was cancelled for equally mysterious reasons.
AND
The Middle East firestorm was to have started on April 25 (author: Wayne Madsen Report,)
Israel's Mossad planned an April 25 assassination, likely by its favorite method, a massive car bomb, of Lebanese Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Because the assassination would have triggered the "perfect storm" for the outbreak of war in Lebanon, with the involvement of Israel, the United States, Syria, and Iran, an official in Olmert's office leaked the assassination plan. When it became apparent that there was a leak, Mossad scuttled the entire operation.
The plan was immediately known by the CIA and Hezbollah. It is known that retired CIA officer and contractor Roland Carnaby, a Lebanese-American, had close contact with all of Lebanon's various factions. On April 29, four days after the planned assassination of Nasrallah by Mossad, Carnaby was killed in broad daylight by Houston police. WMR previously reported that Carnaby had successfully penetrated a Mossad ring active in the Houston area.
Normally I would hesitate to link to much of what Mr Madsen prints, however this time I feel he may have stumbled onto something ignored by the Mainstream Media. For instance if you search the New York Times looking for articles about Roland Carnaby what you get is a message saying:
Your search for Roland Carnaby in all fields returned 0 results.
Madsen says April 25th, Fisky says April 28th. Neither are, of course, as trustworthy as the New York Times /snark
Nice to have you back with us, Xymphora.
To me it looks like the Hezb were conned into reacting militarily so that attention can now be focused on 'dealing' with that 'problem'.
Possibly false rumour was spread about so the Hezb were on full alert for attack. Then Jumblatt threatens to make moves on the communications network which it is hoped will bring the Hezb onto the streets to be filmed and shown around the world. Then the vampires can stand and point at the big bad Hezbullah
more here:
http://hubriticanomaly.blogspot....er-
picture.html
Is Obama the man the world is waiting for? If the leopard can change his spots once he springs from the cage, the answer is — MAYBE!
Xanadu | 05.14.08 - 7:24 am | #
I retract that. Obama is not the man. Gandhi would never have grovelled in the first place, nor would he have been capable of lying in order to get into power — only to do a volte-face.
Kosher meth: what's Amy Winehouse going to do for her supply now?
maybe changing her surname to WinoGrad
Hubris | Homepage | 05.14.08 - 7:33 am | #
Fisk is close to the Hariris; I'd trust Franklin Lamb before Fisk.
Obama's very unelectability is his attraction to the WFTJews advocates. If the Dems really wanted to win, all they had to do was put up a Conservative looking white man (wouldn't even need to be Anglo-White) who didn't say much, but instead they gave us a contest between an already tainted woman and a wet-behind-the-ears "Apparently Black" man. They don't intend to win. American Democracy is a complete, utter sham. If the candidates are shitty enough you don't even need the Diebold Factor.
I thought Franklin Lamb said something coded the other day on Counterpunch, how you could never find Robert Fisk when you wanted him.
Paul | 05.14.08 - 8:38 am | #
Correct. This is why Edwards, the only electable Democrat, was shot down.
Re Kosher Meth:
So 300 people get arrested for producing meth on an industrial scale out of 697 believed to have violated federal laws in a single Kosher Meat Plant and it does not make it to the news?
Do you need any further proof that the Meat Packer Lobby has total dominance over America's public mind?
14 May is the anniversary of the nakba. For a glimpse of the future:
http://electronicintifada.net/
v2...ticle9533.shtml
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/...lan-in-lebanon/
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/...ab-nationalism/
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/...ize-the-crisis/
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/...ebanese-crisis/
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/...ed-information/
A deadly miscalculation in Lebanon
Sami Moubayed (May 13, '0
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Mid...t/
JE14Ak03.html
These are the best a most accurate or closest looks into the matter of Lebanon, I also recommed this reading:
How Hezbollah defeated Israel
By
Mark Perry and
Alastair Crooke
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/oth.../
hezbollah.html
BTW. I tried twice to subscribe to the newsletter but failed.
5- "though they've rarely or never experienced it. It shapes their attitude toward Israel as the only refuge for Jews, and makes them less willing to hear criticisms of it than most Israelis are. It seems to me irrational and I wish I understood it better."
a disease implanted deeply into the culture to become the religion and spread to all their communities to all the generations.
"I thought Franklin Lamb said something coded the other day on Counterpunch, how you could never find Robert Fisk when you wanted him."
Tony Lawless | 05.14.08 - 8:58 am |
read the same. in the same article lamb praised michael young of the 'daily star'. young cant be trusted. he is a neokhan. maybe a jewkhan?
i was curious about both and emailed lamb. havent received a reply yet.
in the same hot dog, get kosher meth and kosher fingers.
a good deal.
bless these rabbis.
5. Israel's 60th has turned into a PR disaster.
LOL
How could it be anything else?
Given the choices, it would be a bit weird if the 60th Anniversary celebration of an unmitigated disaster turned out to be a resounding success, would it not?
If Dirty Harry was a real person he'd tell Israel "You're a legend in your own mind."
Unfortunately, Harry isn't a real person so he won't be telling Israel anything. But then again, since Israel isn't a real country, maybe he will. Anything's possible in an imaginary country.
Actually, it tickles one's fancy to recall that ten years ago a country founded on nothing more substantial than lies, apartheid, genocide and crocodile tears celebrated its Golden Anniversary.
(All that glitters isn't gold)
Where's the (kosher) beef?
but i thought that all the meth was kosher by default, surely there is no other sort.
made in kosher slaughterhouse to bring you into the kosher slaughterhouse.
i checked one video of winehouse, just to see what the racket is all about, and she did look like a stunned, glassy eyed cow, swaying unsteadily like the walking demonstration of the wages of talmud.
she should sue the swiss banks where kosher billions are deposited.
scary
Q: What is the difference between waiting and trying?
A: America is a disaster waiting to happen. Israel is a disaster trying to happen.
I really enjoyed your spirited rant, Franz.
If and when cruise missiles start reigning down on Tehran is when the revolution starts in earnest.
And I'm quite sure it will be more than a few lights going out when oil reaches $200 a barrel(or more) and the average middle class American can't work or feed his/her family.
I often wish I had more testicular fortitude to start now. I rationalize my weakness with my concern for family and loved ones.
That goes out the window when a war with Iran begins. Though I suppose they are anticipating that with the 6 concentration camps FEMA have set up throughout the United States.
Yes, the signs are definitely there...
when the conc camps start filling with miltary families, friends and relatives and mutinous soldiers start fragging officers in the streets, it is game on.
i don't see how a military coup can be avoided in the near future, they brought it on themselves.
diseasing minds for solidarity, insanity, and hate.
"A couple of decades ago, it all started with the Holocaust Remembrance Day, about a week after Passover (all Israeli public holidays follow the Jewish calendar, which is otherwise used only for religious purposes). This is no longer the case: the weeks before that are an ever more popular time for Jewish pilgrimage to Poland, where Israeli teenagers, a year or two before their military service, are taken to a series of concentration camps, destroyed Jewish communities, and other sites of memory. These journeys – at least eight days long – earn the blessing of the state and are regulated by the Ministry of Education: an official goal is "to boost national feelings." The ministry also demands that all the young pilgrims, even the secular ones, consume only kosher food flown from Israel and served soaked and lukewarm in Polish hostels. Parents, however, have to pay the entire costs themselves, about $1,500 per child, which makes it a privilege of the middle class and above. This makes sense, of course. The middle class has to be persuaded ideologically; the obedience of the poor is secured by more violent means.
I happened to be at the airport when a group returned from such a journey last April: scores of their schoolmates were taken to the terminal to greet them, drumming, dancing, and yelling "the People of Israel live." One had the impression they were welcoming a group of Holocaust survivors."
ran hacohen at antiwar
"The real Holocaust survivors, by the way, do not earn that much attention, nor public investment: out of 80,000 survivors still alive in Israel, one third live in poverty. Some of those elderly people even emigrate back to Germany, where financial aid to survivors is much more generous – a march of the living." ran hacohen, from same article as above
they have served their purpose and no longer of any use - toilet paper. and their deposited savings during ww2 was stolen by the state of the jews.
One had the impression they were welcoming a group of Holocaust survivors.
But they did come back alive from a trip to Auschwitz, lucky for them the gas chamber malfunctioned, time to file for the reparation vouchers.
stevieb, lobro, Franz
What percentage of Americans do you suppose understand what the Zios have done to the USA? 2%? .0002%?
"Khan Younis / PNN – Israeli forces destroyed green houses, farms, fruit trees and land in the southern Gaza Strip’s Khan Younis area throughout the night.
Mayor Najjar said that the bulldozers, which withdrew this morning, washed away nearly 30 acres of greenhouses and 200 acres planted with olive trees and fruit, five poultry farms, in addition to dozens of acres planted with wheat, barley and other crops."
after visits to ww2 sites combined with tales by our elders, educators, and by our rabbis we become afraid. the jewish way to combat our collective, inbred existential fear is to destroy all other life forms.
we forgot the salt.
moshe, get lots of salt.
these folks are so baked it is beyond belief
well, maybe i am lucky, but in my neck of the woods, as soon as j-word is heard, meaningful looks, nods and winks come out, especially from Americans.
Boston "729" party may be happening sooner than expected.
"Do you need any further proof that the Meat Packer Lobby has total dominance over America's public mind?"
that was a good one!!!
I think it's good that the neoconvicts are sliding the blame for the fiasco over onto the Pentagon, thinking perhaps the Pentagon won't be welcoming them back anytime soon.
where Israel is hated most
http://www.counterpunch.org/
lamb...mb04252008.html
It has been a fact that, since at least 1982, perhaps the harshest and
most frustrated American critics of Israel are those who work in
Langley, Virginia, at CIA Headquarters and especially those across the
14th Street Bridge from the White House, on the banks of the Potomac
River, who work at the Pentagon.
Harshest because, as fed up Pentagon employees have long protested,
they work with Israel closely on weapons supply matters and they know
first hand how consistently the US is lied to and cheated by Israeli
weapons procurement officials. Frustrated because they are prohibited
by law, politics and the ever watching Israel lobby from disclosing
the regular chicanery they witness to the public.
729? 3 to the 6th power? I'm missing something here ...
protecting and promoting American interests is against the law, that's why it is recognized by the Congress as the Noahide law, a light to the gentiles.
Unfortunately, the dumb public does not understand nor do they see the light, but don't worry, the kind, patient jews are working to enlighten us, such as Anne Frank Lewis who never tires of repeating that the duty of American president is to obey Israeli people.
I think we will be hearing that loud and clear at the next inauguration, translated into English for the benefit of uncomprehending beastly masses.
jew barcode smekh, your kabbala refresher is overdue.
Well, I suppose we now have the diamond anniversary for this wedding of hell and hell. Time to shell out again - but hopefully not too many times more.
this "birthday celebration" is a personal humiliation for all yanks, Z's beasts of burden
A. American (white I presume) racists should vote for Obama? Only if they want to take a 20-30% that he will dramatically "cut off" the Lobby. More ideologically bound, and/or those who have been burned by compromise in the past might choose to go with Bob Barr or Ralph Nader, to name two.
B.Iran should opt for the power-sharing agreement in the form which Xymph seems to favor or find acceptable? How about letting the "hard-liners" use every means to effectualize something even more favorable to Iran, and that which would entail dramatic and transparent defeat for the Empire?
>>> Fisk is close to the Hariris; I'd trust Franklin Lamb before Fisk.
US taxpayer | 05.14.08 - 8:05 am | #
I thought it was Jumblatt he was close to
Ken Hoop | 05.14.08 - 3:53 pm | #
Ken, McCain has to be stopped at any price. He will finish us off if he gets in there.
I thought Franklin Lamb said something coded the other day on Counterpunch, how you could never find Robert Fisk when you wanted him.
Tony Lawless | 05.14.08 - 8:58 am | #
yes I saw that. I haven't yet decided if the comment was 'throwaway' or not. I suppose if Lamb went to the bother of mentioning it then it may have some significance but most likely he meant Fisk was busy working
Is Tony LAWLESS your real name?
US taxpayer | 05.14.08 - 12:14 pm
Several % more, the "Christian Zionists" run interference for them,
Ditto but later:
McCain is a wild card because he never has been a team player.Perhaps his policy would be neocon-oriented but erratic, inchoate and disjointed
enough to hasten finishing the Empire off.
Wouldn't consider voting for McCain and if Nader continues run it means Obama isn't viable. Nader supported Edwards by the way, never Obama. Why not, when Kucinich threw his support
to Obama?
I think Lamb may be a propagandist because he doesn't question the mentality of the jihadists.
Most al Qaeda partisans take seriously the Islamic injunction against fighting fellow Muslims unless in self-defense while others feel apostates are fair game. think about this. They are not seeing all people as equal. How does this differ from the jews? Did the nazis make exceptions for the german-americans?
These young people generally appear very modest, clean cut, polite, smart and serious; one imagines, rather like the image of Mohammad Atta to his neighbors in Hamburg. They are less interested in talking about what they say is 'minor jihad' i.e. violently fighting their enemies and prefer to discuss "greater jihad" which is an introspective concept of individual self improvement, becoming a better person by pure thoughts, good deeds, study, and following the teachings of the Koran.
In some ways they remind one of Maoists during the Chinese Cultural Revolution period, sitting around discussing the concept of "the new Maoist man", the guidance found in the little Red Book, engaging in self-criticism, inner struggle trying to follow the correct path in life, and the Islamic imperative of self improvement. This is different from the western perception of them as being religious fanatics in the Hagee Christian Zionist mold. why because Lamb says so? Let's not forget that the Moaist rebels killed 70 million people. It is possible that in order to really fight you have to be a fanatic, fair enough, but than you can't condemn the other side for doing the same thing and having their 'vision'.
My point in this is just to look critically at everything and not be suckered because we like what we hear.
That was from Taxes link
http://www.counterpunch.org/
lamb...mb04252008.html
Laurie | 05.14.08 - 4:40 pm | #
Yes, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend. They're agin the folks we're agin.
So were the russians. (no offense smekh). This isn't a binary game.
I wouldn't lift a finger to get the most aggressively anti-Christian Moslem out of America at this particular point.
Of course not because you want to see america broken apart to racial/religious enclaves. I don't.
People should be able to live the way and with whom they want to. I don't want the government to mandate either way. I'm against forced segregation as much as I'm against forced desegregation.
WHO RULES AMERICA?
US taxpayer | 05.14.08 - 2:20 pm | #
US Taxes, Laurie, Lobro, Xeno, & anyone else willing to address the question:
During an argument on Israel Radio on 3 October 2001 between Ariel Sharon and Shimon Peres, Peres said that Israel's policies of continued violence might "turn the US against us".
To this Sharon replied:
"EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL. WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."
I wonder if there is a general consensus on this website that the above is true? It is ironical to think that anyone who agreed with Sharon that America was controlled by the Jews would at once be stigmatized as anti-Semitic. American Jewry would prefer us all to adopt Chomsky's position: namely, that Israel is simply America's "attack dog in the Middle East" (his own words) or, to change the metaphor, America's "cat's paw".
What do people on this website think? Does the dog wag the tail or the tail the dog?
Personally, I would like to believe that there are secret anti-Zionist forces in America that are really in control; or that, if not in control just yet, are capable of reversing the Jewish stranglehold on America. The regular arrest of so many Jewish spies, and now the raid on the kosher meatpacking plant, seems to indicate that American Jewry is not as omnipotent as Ariel Sharon appeared to think.
Question: Is there any chance that anti-Zionist forces within the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, and the US military can wrest control from the Jews and restore some sanity to America? Or is it too late? Have the Jews won?
George W. Bush a dit que "les Américains et les Israéliens pouvaient être fiers de (leur) passé et le meilleur moyen de faire honneur à nos fondateurs, c'est de continuer l'ouvrage qu'ils ont commencé
quel con
Xanadu | 05.14.08 - 5:21 pm | #
There is massive resistance, Xdu, but at the middle bureaucratic level and in the Pentagon and CIA; the upper level bureaucracy and political appointees are controlled by the spawn of Satan. If McCain wins there is no hope.
I too would be interested to see this quote confirmed; the statement was made on radio, it sounds like Sharon, but I don't know for certain that the quote is accurate.
Thanks, Taxes. You have been most helpful, as always. I am hoping to get some input from others on this question too.
Does anyone believe that there are parallels between the state America is in now and the state Germany was in before Hitler took over?
If asked myself, I would hazard a guess and say America right now is in a far worse position.
Laurie | 05.14.08 - 5:13 pm
Let Moslems contribute to the sapping of the Empire from within in their modest way, at 2% or so of the population. Clear enough?
Is there any chance that anti-Zionist forces can wrest control from the Jews and restore some sanity to America?
It's a mistake, a potentially disastrous mistake, to regard "the Jews" as the enemy, since if confronted with serious hostility on the part of us goyim, they might emigrate to Palestine. Better to try to enlist them in our cause by tirelessly speaking the truth and presenting the evidence showing that Zionism is pure evil. The better spirits among them are already aware of this, but are kept in line by their instinctive tribal solidarity, their 'asabiya, to use Ibn Khaldun's term. The hope is that that 'asabiya can ultimately be undermined.
"Question: Is there any chance that anti-Zionist forces within the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, and the US military can wrest control from the Jews and restore some sanity to America? Or is it too late? Have the Jews won?"
It seems to me that we have been sold out by our politicians, both Rep and Dem. They know something dramatic is coming, we do too but we just don't know what it is yet, they may know. Why have they, in the past 8 years, all climbed aboard the Religion Train, that just doesn't make much sense in USA culture.
Maybe it's the internet that scared the hell out of them, they were all too busy doing the things that politicians do (paying for top-dollar hookers, hanging around men's bathrooms, diddling pages, and kissing Lobbyist's asses to get the money) and we on-line types figured out something, that the internet made us smarter than them and wise to their ways. We may have frightened them and they are getting back at us with draconian measures via 911 and the new laws and the trashing of the Constition. I had no idea of the truth before, I read the paper and watched TV until about 1998, then I got online. And, we may all be doing ourselves a disservice by using pseudonyms, we've become "nobodies" and "nobodies" don't count. Of course the Government knows who we are if they want to. For all I know "USTaxpayer" might just live up the street from me and we might then share a drink or two, but it ain't gonna happen while we're all still "nobodies".
sorry Xanadu, I have no answer to your very valid question.
"2% or so of the population" - There is another group that is only 2% or so of the population. Capisca? Our goals are not the same.
traducteur | 05.14.08 - 6:29 pm - would you have any objection to the jews moving to palestine if they became the type of citizen you hope them to become here? Because if they did, then I don't see a problem with them being anywhere they choose.
Bill W, see you at the pub at 8 pm.
Massive resistance was an overstatement; as Dan Ellsberg says, bureaucrats have the talent of knowing as much as is expedient. There is nonetheless a definite truculence and resentment towards the neocons and the governing clique.
Life in official Washington is based knowing that the Israel Lobby is running the show, while pretending not to.
On the whole I'd rather be in New Hampshire.
Capisca
does she mean "capisce"?
parallels with Germany? difficult - but 1929 banking crash, millions unemployed, economic ruined is similar. Will they come up with some "New Deal" Clinton, Obama? Probably can't. - But the NS party grew up in struggle with the Bolshevic threat during the republic of Weimar, that is different. There was no TV before 1933, although degenerated art and newspapers, that deviated from the truth, fabricated a "willful perversion of facts".
Good points, Bill W. It seems as though Michael Ledeen's "faster please" has gone straight from his mouth to Satan's ear. Kabbalistic magic?
Thanks USTaxpayer, to be honest, I'd rather be in Florida, it gets damn cold here.
I just read that Edwards will endorse Obama so that should wrap it all up, hope so.
We are making some progress. Look how many neocon supporters have fallen by the wayside- we're rid of Guilliani and hopefully Clinton now. I think Obama bowed down too low though, just once I'd like to see one of them say, "Israel is just one of many hundreds of countries on this earth and will be accorded the same level of attention as all the rest".
Laurie | 05.14.08 - 6:56 pm | #
Given equality before the law regardless of race, and assuming that Palestinians were allowed to move back there too, absolutely no problem.
Take it up with Babel Fish. Were you born an asshole or do you just try hard?
Presente
io capisca
tu capisca
lui, lei,egli capisca
noi capiamo
voi capiate
loro, Loro, essi capiscano
traducteur | 05.14.08 - 7:50 pm - cool trad.
Laurie | 05.14.08 - 8:15 pm - just so the fool doesn't miss it. This one's for you taxes.
That's the present subjunctive, sweetheart. Doesn't really work in the context. You want present indicative:
io capisco
tu capisci
Lei capisce etc.
capisce, stronza?
http://
www.informationclearingho...rticle19919.htm
Dwight Eisenhower, when he was running for re-election in 1956 and simultaneously trying to contain growing instability in the Middle East as a result of tensions between Israel and its neighbors, wrote a letter to an adviser as follows:
Of course, nothing in the region would be so difficult to solve except for the underlying cause of the unrest and dissension that exists there -- that is, the Arab-Israel quarrel. This quarrel seems to have no limit in either intensity or in scope. Everybody in the Moslem and Jewish worlds is affected by it. It is so intense that the second any action is taken against one Arab state, by an outsider, all the other Arab and Moslem states seem to regard it as a Jewish plot and react violently. All this complicates the situation enormously.
As we began to uncover evidence that something was building up in Israel, we demanded pledges from Ben-Gurion that he would keep the peace. We realized that he might think he could take advantage of this country because of the approaching election and because of the importance that so many politicians in the past have attached to our Jewish vote. I gave strict orders to the State Department that they should inform Israel that we would handle our affairs exactly as though we didn't have a Jew in America. The welfare and best interests of our own country were to be the sole criteria on which we operated.
Back then, telling Israel that "the welfare and best interests of our own country were to be the sole criteria on which we operated" -- and that "we would handle our affairs exactly as though we didn't have a Jew in America" -- was likely an uncontroversial sentiment. Today, if an American politician said anything remotely like that -- that when formulating foreign policy in the Middle East, American interests would take precedence over Israel's -- how many seconds would elapse before the full-scale and permanent destruction of their political career was complete?
Laurie, you and Hoop should get a masochists' club going. If you get tired of looking silly around here you can always go to RB's blog and have him ban your comments.
Ahhh noooo cupcake, I wanted the congiunivo form of the irregular verb capire and that's what i wrote. You should review the irregular verbs.
I may not agree with every thing Ken says but he is heads and shoulder above you in understanding what is happening in the world. So why don't you go to RB's blog. Or are you afraid of him? He didn't seem to have too much time for you when he was here.
from "the truth will set you free":
JULY 11--A newly discovered diary of Harry S Truman indicates that the former president may have had a strongly negative opinion of Jews. In the diary, which includes 42 entries written in 1947, Truman recounts a conversation he had with Henry Morgenthau, the Secretary of the Treasury, who had phoned to discuss the fate of Jewish refugees. In criticizing the approach of Morgenthau, who was Jewish, Truman wrote in a July 21 passage, "The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the under dog." The diary, found earlier this year by a researcher at the Truman Library in Independence, Missouri, was released yesterday by the National Archives"
"I wanted the congiunivo form of the irregular verb capire and that's what i wrote."
Because you wanted it, it's supposed to make sense?
Confine yourself to the language you know, Laurie, whatever language that might be.
Woman resents any attempt to require from her that her thoughts should be
logical. She may be regarded as logically insane. --Weininger
First, let me state that Amy Winehouse should be free to ingest whatever she likes, as long as it does not adversely affect anyone else.
Of course, that begs the question of why our jails are full of people who are guilty of even less than that...and please don't write back here stating that we have a War on Drugs. You'll give me the runs...
Now, in regards to the kosher meth lab...well, I'm frankly surprised. Doesn't this make you think...what's going on at OTHER kosher processing plants?
Hmmm...
#4, Why Clinton Lost: The Reason Nobody is Talking About:
she's a hag.
she's a war hag.
a lying war hag.
a greedy lying war hag.
trailer park trash war hag.
which ever way the wind blows hag.
president hag?
then there is the possibility of:
president insane.
lord, cant you sorta guide a couple of your soft ball size hailstones? make em basket ball size.
lord, while you consider this request, im hittin the hay.
Three Israelis and four Ukrainians were among the detainees held on charges of being in the country illegally, Counts said. Officials are expected to bring criminal charges against some of the detainees as well, most of whom are from Guatemala and Mexico.
Genack said he was told by the plant's supervising rabbi that two foreign rabbis working at the plant had failed to renew their work permits when they expired a few weeks ago. He described the issue as a "technical" violation and insisted the two rabbis had not been detained.
Much of the information the government collected appears to have come from former employees of Agriprocessors who were detained by police on unrelated charges. Sources related similar stories of presenting fraudulent documents and Social Security numbers when seeking employment with the company.
Several said they were aware of undocumented workers employed at the plant that were paid by supervisors in cash.
The affidavit says the government has probable cause to believe that an Agriprocessors supervisor assisted workers in acquiring fake documents in exchange for a cut of the proceeds.
Federal investigators provided documentation for a former Agriprocessors employee, identified in the affidavit as Source #7, for the purpose of gaining employment at the plant. Once hired, the source reported on rabbis who insulted the workers and threw meat at them.
In one alleged instance, a "Hasidic Jew" duct-taped a worker's eyes and then hit him with a meat hook, "apparently not causing serious injuries."
Somehow I think only the Guatemalans and Mexicans will face charges or deportation ...
All this from
http://
mauricepinay.blogspot.com...ufacturing.html
You've got to love Sarko and Kouchmerde:
Excerpt of Olmert's interview on Radio France International re bilateral relations with France.
Question : Le président Nicolas Sarkozy va venir en visite d’Etat le mois prochain. On parle d’une lune de miel des relations franco-israéliennes….
Ehud Olmert : Ce n’est pas seulement une lune de miel, c’est une histoire d’amour ! Je pense que Nicolas Sarkozy est un très bon ami d’Israël. Je l’apprécie personnellement. Avant même qu’il soit élu président, il m’a dit qu’il voulait absolument venir en Israël. Quand il a été élu, il m’a répété qu’il voulait absolument venir. Maintenant, il vient célébrer avec nous le 60e anniversaire. La France a toujours été un grand ami d’Israël et du peuple juif. Les juifs se sont épanouis en France, ils ont été de toutes les grandes réalisations, ils caractérisent la culture française, les intellectuels, la technologie… Nous avons toujours eu de bonnes relations avec la France. Parfois, il y a eu quelques tensions, et cela a été un peu difficile. Dieu merci, ces relations sont maintenant ce qu’elles doivent être avec un président ami, un gouvernement ami, un peuple ami, et nous espérons qu'elles continueront à se développer dans ce sens.
http://www.rfi.fr/actufr/
article...ticle_66124.asp
histoire d’amour
Olmert-Sarko love story...maybe this is what Dundee J#* had in mind re. the wonders of "a deep relationship between two men."
This love that dare not speak its name has transformed France from the antisemitic country Sharon warned jews to flee a few years ago into a honeymoon destination. Un président ami, et tout de suite, un gouvernement ami, un peuple ami!
We have now reached the fundamental difference between the Jew and the woman. Neither believe in themselves; but the woman believes in others, in her husband, her lover, or her children, or in love itself; she has a centre of gravity, although it is outside her own being. The Jew believes in nothing, within him or without him. --Weininger
This same Chabad community in Iowa was featured in National Geographic as an example of ancient jewish traditions flourishing in the Middle West:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.co.../0506/feature7/
Chabad like Opus Dei never wants for publicity.
"If McCain wins there is no hope."
— US taxpayer | 05.14.08 - 5:25 pm | #
US Taxes,
Since even at a conservative estimate McCain has a 50% chance of becoming President, it follows from your remark that the American people are now playing Russian roulette with their future. In fact, it's worse than Russian roulette. In playing Russian roulette, you stand only one chance in six of blowing your brains out; here it's one chance in two.
Given that (a) McCain stands MORE than 50% chance of winning (maybe as much as 80-90%), and that (b) even if he lost, Clinton/Obama are almost as bad (not exactly Joan of Arcs), it follows that AMERICA NOW FACES ALMOST TOTAL DISASTER.
There are distinct parallels here with pre-Nazi Germany. There's only one difference. America is in a far worse position.
I will pursue this topic in a future post.
Gardez-le bien, Sarko-le-youpin
PRE-NAZI GERMANY AND AMERICA TODAY: PARALLELS (1)
"Parallels with Germany? difficult - but 1929 banking crash, millions unemployed, economic ruined is SIMILAR . . . [But] there was no TV before 1933, although degenerated art and newspapers, that deviated from the truth, fabricated a "willful perversion of facts."
— Fritz | 05.14.08 - 6:59 pm | #
Fritz, I'm glad you see there are similarities between pre-Nazi Germany and contemporary America. Now I was not meaning to suggest that the parallels extend to ALL areas of life — still less am I suggesting that contemporary America is a MIRROR IMAGE of pre-Nazi Germany!
No way. I am merely making the uncontroversial statement that America today, just like Germany was in the 1920-30s, is OVERSHADOWED BY A MALIGN AND PERVASIVE JEWISH INFLUENCE.
Who can deny that the Jews are widely seen as a threat to contemporary America? That whenever a new scandal erupts, everyone looks for the Jew under the bed. It's almost a joke to think that the newest game in town is "Cherchez le Juif".
The Jews had reached a predominant position in Weimar Germany, invading all areas of public life, such that their influence over society was deeply resented by ordinary Germans. It was not a question of jealousy. It was simply a question that Jewish influence was always malign, that it always had a demoralising effect on the people. In always undermined the foundations of society and unleashed anarchy, immorality and widespread misery.
PRE-NAZI GERMANY AND AMERICA TODAY (2)
Here are two citations from Hitler's Mein Kampf. They demonstrate not only how Hitler viewed the Jews surrounding him in 1920s Germany, but how Jews were perceived in general by Hitler's contemporaries:
Hitler, on first encountering the Viennese Jew: “When thus for the first time I recognised the Jew as the cold-hearted, shameless, and calculating director of this revolting VICE TRAFFIC in the scum of the big city, a cold shudder ran down my back.” (Ralph Manheim translation, p.55).
Fast forward to contemporary America. What group of life-defilers runs the "vice traffic" in America almost singlehandedly today? No prizes for guessing correctly.
Here's Hitler again, gnawing at the same bone: “Was there any form of FILTH or profligacy, particularly in cultural life, without at least ONE JEW involved in it? If you cut even cautiously into such an abscess, you found, like a maggot in a rotting body, often dazzled by the sudden light—a JEWBOY!” (p. 53).
Manheim uses the inflammmatory word "kike"; I have toned this down to the more emollient "Jewboy."
The parallels are unmistakable. The Germans welcomed Hitler with open arms because they saw him as their "rescuer". He got Germany back on its feet. The forces against him, however, were too strong. International Jewry had declared war upon him from their snug bastions in the United States and Britain.
We all know the sequel: Hitler's crushing defeat and subsequent demonization. And the same people who destroyed Germany then have their eyes now on America's jugular vein.
America had better watch out.
Obiter dictum: Just because I have played a few pranks on this website, it is wrong to doubt my sincerity. My sense of humour has made people here suspicious of me. So sad.
Yes Taxes, we all know what Otto thinks, you've been quoting him for the last six months. I anxiously await the reading of your next book.
Regarding the meth plant: "Sources in the warrant application also said they saw what appeared to be underage workers at the plant." - no surprise here.
http://www.startribune.com/18897349.html
I'm not seeing any reaction on La Raza sites yet. It will be interesting to see how they respond if at all.
PRE-NAZI GERMANY AND AMERICA TODAY (3)
We all know that international bankers wield irresistible power. These bankers are almost without exception Jewish. The Rothschilds and Rockefellers hold the world today in the palm of their hands — especially in view of the fact that they now control the Federal Reserve.
Here's what international Jewry did to 1920s Germany, and what they plan to do to America if America refuses to toe the line and fight more Wars for the Jews — helping to construct a Greater Israel extending from the Nile to the Euphrates:
As a result of massive enforced financial reparations after WW1, by 1923 the situation in Germany had become critical. Inflation became the only way out for the government. Inflation on a truly astronomical scale.
Printing presses were soon printing money around the clock. In 1921, in the lull before the storm, the exchange rate had been 75 marks to the dollar. By 1924 this had skyrocketed to FIVE TRILLION MARKS to the dollar! Ten wheelbarrows of banknotes to buy a loaf of bread.
This destroyed the German middle classes in Germany and made life a living hell for the poor. Whatever savings frugal Germans had managed to build up in their respectable Jew-run banks had been vaporized into virtually ZERO.
(See Koestler, 'The God that Failed').
Could this be the fate awaiting America?
Suspicion is healthy Xanadu, but the reason I didn't answer your question is that I wanted to think about it. Having thought about it, I just don't have an answer. Things will change but the timing is anyone's guess.
Just because I have played a few pranks on this website, it is wrong to doubt my sincerity. My sense of humour has made people here suspicious of me. So sad.
Xanadu | 05.15.08 - 6:30 am | #
Suspicion is healthy Xanadu, but the reason I didn't answer your question is that I wanted to think about it.
Laurie | 05.15.08 - 7:10 am | #
See there Bitch, nobody wants to answer your fucking questions. Why don't you just bugger off like you promised and creep back under your stone. I've had enough of your anti-Semitic ravings. This site is crawling with homophobic neonazi trash and Dundee Joe has just about had it up to the neck. I'm only on this fucking site 'cos I wanna see how low it can sink and how sick it can get. Excuse me while I puke into my handkerchief.
The US looks more like Poland shortly before the Chmielnicki Uprising than like interbellum Germany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Chm...lnicki_Uprising
Is the tide turning or what?
Gary Hart equates Neoconvicts with Nazis, goes on about McCain and how he's not really stupid, just stuck with Bush:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
ga...a_b_101823.html
"Hart: McCain forced to ally with neocons
The Huffington Post: Gary Hart
Historians of early 21st century American politics will remark the degree to which radical forces, usually called neoconservatives, perverted language as recommended by the National Socialist Party in 1930s Germany. Continue to demonize liberals, blame them for all social and economic problems, and soon enough no one will be willing to admit to being a liberal."
This story is much, much bigger than stopping a rogue meth producer in the Middle West.
This is documentary proof that Chabad is an international criminal network.
Unfortunately the emollient Xdu's comparison has the ring of truth.
US taxpayer | 05.15.08 - 7:59 am | #
Thank God I have one supporter on this site. Bisous.
Everyone here likes you but Dundee, Xdu, and once the dating service comes through for him he'll cheer up too.
Didn't take this guy long to get to the Postville story--
http://judicial-inc.biz/postville.htm
Can Ken find any flaws in the story?
although he is moderate as always, Bundespresident Koehler of the regime in Germany is getting nervous:
German president: world financial markets are 'monster'
http://www.earthtimes.org/articl...re-
monster.html
Hamburg - Germany's president, Horst Koehler, has described the world financial markets as a "monster" that must be tamed. The German weekly magazine Stern quoted Koehler, who has first-hand experience of the banking industry as a former chief of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), as calling for the banks to admit the error of their ways.
"We came close to a collapse of the world financial markets," he said of the crisis that has played out in recent months.
"The markets have developed into a monster that has to be tamed," he said, adding that this must be obvious to anyone in the financial industry who thinks responsibly.
The bankers had evidently invented so many financial derivatives that they no longer understood themselves what effects these had.
"The excessive complexity of financial products and the opportunities to set up enormous leveraged deals with the tiniest amount of equity have caused the monster to grow," said Koehler. "It hardly has any relationship any more to the real economy."
On top of that "some financial managers are receiving bizarrely excessive remuneration," he said. The financial industry had made a fool of itself but he had yet to hear "a clearly audible mea culpa" as an admission of error.
Also from Xeno's link, there is still hope of someday getting a true number of holocaust deaths: The accounts of contemporaneous Jewish chroniclers of the events tended to emphasize large casualty figures, but they have been reevaluated downwards at the end the 20th century, when modern historiographic methods, particularly from the realm of historical demography, became more widely adopted. the numbers were 100,000-500,000 reevaluated to 18,000-20,000by a modern jewish estimate and by an ukraniane americans between 6,000-14,000.
Finacial Times: (to add)
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/d1f940...?
nclick_check=1
Mr Köhler singled out excessive executive pay, the focus of much public resentment against top managers, as a factor in the subprime crisis and accused bankers of acting irresponsibly.
“The complexity of financial products and the possibility to carry out huge leveraged trades with little [of their] own capital have allowed the monster to grow…also responsible [is] the grotesquely high compensation of individual finance managers.”
Bankers “have made huge mistakes”, Mr Köhler told Stern magazine in an interview to be published on Thursday. Referring to the subprime crisis, he said: “I am still waiting for a clear, audible mea culpa. The only good thing about this crisis is that it has made clear to any thinking, responsible person in the sector that international financial markets have developed into a monster that must be put back in its place.
Mr Köhler’s words will revive memories of the 2005 remarks by Franz Müntefering, then the German vice-chancellor, attacked hedge funds as “swarms of locusts” whose “profit-maximising strategies inspired by international competition” posed “a danger to our democracy”.
Xanadu | 05.14.08 - 7:00 am
What a load of feeble-minded horse shit!
Stick to poetry - PLEASE!
THE PROBLEM IS: AMERICA HAS NO RESCUER
1. "The US looks more like Poland shortly before the Chmielnicki Uprising than like interbellum Germany."
— Xenophile | 05.15.08 - 7:39 am | #
2. "Unfortunately the emollient Xdu's comparison has the ring of truth."
— US taxpayer | 05.15.08 - 7:59 am | #
The word "unfortunately" is here the operative word. It is most unfortunate that we should find ourselves in a similar position to pre-Hitlerite Germany.
Xeno, I wasn't suggesting that America today was a MIRROR IMAGE of interbellum Germany, simply that there were striking parallels between the two countries.
The one big difference between pre-Hitlerite Germany and contemporary America is the absence of any RESCUER in the latter case. Hitler gave Germany a brief respite by coming along just when the Germans most needed him. That he was subsequently ground into dust and demonized by international Jewry demonstrates only too well that in politics, as in life, it is necessary to win. Losing won't do.
So where is America's "rescuer"?
McCain, McCain!
We await thy reign!
Obama! Obama!
Are YOU the charmer?
Or is it you, Hillary?
— Oh, pleeeeze don't be sillary!
See what I mean? Ruin stares us in the face. No rescuer.
"...he had yet to hear "a clearly audible mea culpa" - I hope he doesn't hold his breath.
There was an interesting article in the WSJ on Monday telling about this British dube, Richard Spinks, who is going around the Ukraine buying and leasing land (the length of the lease never mentioned) to create 'modern farms' 25,000 acres a pop. So far he has leased 165,000 acres. His company is known as Landkom International PLC. This is just like what the Bauers are doing in India. It would be interesting to know who owns the land or means of production in Brazil and Argentina. I think it is safe to bet there will be a world wide famine in the near future and that the Bauers will decide who eats.
What a load of feeble-minded horse shit!
Stick to poetry - PLEASE!
Hoarsewhisperer | 05.15.08 - 8:44 am | #
I hope you're saying that in a WHISPER?!?
BTW, there's some of my poetry above. Betcha like it, bad man.