Reality would have set in a long time ago if the settler movement, backed up by the de facto support of the American Jewish community (as much as the lite Zionists may try to deny it), has also taken control of the American government.
Xym., I read that paragraph through twice and can only suggest there is a missing "not" somewhere.
This is a very simplistic reading. In fact, the majority of 'settlers' are commuters.
"What happens when a country, its government, and its army, is entirely taken over by religious fruitcakes?"
I don't know, Xymph. You tell us.
A Zionist is a Zionist is a Zionist. Mass theft and genocide are the pillars of all adherents of that ideology, regardless of position on the "hilltop youth" -"lite" spectrum. The assertion that it's all the fault of a "small religious-nationalist group" is grotesquely misleading. I'm sorry to sound like GWB, but the fact is that if you're not against them you're with them, objectively if not subjectively.
no, the fact is that if you think in racist clichés you are no help at all.
One should translate "jewish values" as "zionist prices"
why prettify something as disgusting, obnoxious and self-admittedly evil as Zionism-Talmud-Israel by using terms as "fruitcake"?
And "religious". In the sense of satanism being a religious movement, yes.
It is like calling the bad guy in the Lord of The Rings a fruitcake, like what does he do, dress up in leather and swings a whip on Gay Pride Day parade?
Just call spade a fruitcake ...
I didn't think it was possible for people to become less intelligent than they were previously, all of the above must be uncharacteristically stupid remarks from you all.
Can anyone tell me how to switch off auto-complete in the firefox google address bar, without switching off the entire browser history function?
ah, no, it's OK, I've found a widget:
http://www.leogas.net/acmanager/
don't ask the degenerates, rowan, unless you slid down the same slope.
yes, the feature can be annoying but then again, i am not easily annoyed, operating in the world run by (the race of) fruitcakes.
From Hm Dep't.
Let's suppose that the jews converting from one orthodoxy to another, like israel Shamir and (Brother) Nathanael Kapner are just deeply buried decoys.
Just what purpose would they serve to Zion, unless they seeded their anti-talmudist rhetoric with so many lies that exposing them would sanitize the world's opinion of the smeared target, i.e., Talmud is a very nice, sweet little job.
But the danger there is that the same process of peeling back lies might extend to Holocaust, no?
I mean, once the algorithm is legitimized, how does one criminalize it again?
will you please try to get it through your head that no one except the orthodox gives a damn about the talmud.
the jewish brahmans?
is that a question or another half baked theory? if it's a question my answer would be that a more obvious, commonsensical, and applicable analogy would be social class.
can you prove it?
i judge them by their works and these seem to align quite well.
look, assume for a moment that their intelligence is as high as they claim, o/w they are liars, no? and if liars tell you they don't pay attention to talmud, do you buy that?
so, given intelligent, rational, objective (assuming that objectivity increases in relation to intelligence) people, what do you make of their comically lame excuses for the 60 years of unbridled sadism in Israel, not to mention other products of organized criminality, like media mindfuck, etc?
How is any of that contradicted by Talmud, yet it is clearly and obviously contradicted by every other major ethical or religious system?
So, if it ain't T-mud, maybe raaace ... you know, snakes swallow live prey because they are snakes not because they read Talmud.
Wanna go there?
zionist hides jews. it is jews. it is jewry. and why just talk about the occupied terrortories. the fanatics also live in tel aviv. term "fruitcakes" applied to a select sort hides that the entire belief system is demented.
social class ... heheh.
We are evil because we are rich, not the other way around and we are all rich because our average IQ is over 200, so don't try to second guess our motives, you animals.
Right, Abu?
if anybody bothers to read this, is this kinzer a jewcon deceiver? normally i would know, but the Lord has diminished my all knowing for a sin i committed last wk. i forgot to call the jews claiming secularhood frauds and liars.
An Interview with Steven Kinzer
The Folly of Attacking Iran
By WAJAHAT ALI @ counterpunch
KINZER: I'm actually very troubled by Iranian support for groups like Hamas and Hezbollah. The support is also very unpopular inside Iran. It is repeatedly cited by people who complain about the economic shortages inside Iran. People in Iran don't want to see hundreds of millions of their dollars going to support these militant groups. I would simply argue that the more worried you are about Iran's support for these groups, then the more troubled you are by Iranian nuclear ambitions. The more outraged you are at the way the Iranian government represses democratic forces inside Iran, the more urgent the negotiation option becomes. We are not going to be able to reduce Iranian support for militant groups in the Middle East, or to make Iran curb its nuclear ambitions or to change its behavior in any other way by bombing them! The way to make Iran calm down and feel like it doesn't need to pursue policies that are highly destabilizing in the Middle East is to make Iran feel safe. Israel also needs to be made to feel safe. It's through a negotiating process in which every country is led to see that it has a fair place under the Middle Eastern sun, then we can produce the kind of stability that will make it less necessary, less urgent, less tempting for Iran to pursue policies that are highly destabilizing.
Hey Kinzer, spot the same difference:
I'm actually very troubled by American support for groups like Israel and Zionism. The support is also very unpopular inside America. It is repeatedly cited by people who complain about the economic shortages inside America. People in America don't want to see hundreds of millions of their dollars going to support these militant groups. I would simply argue that the more worried you are about America's support for these groups, then the more troubled you are by American nuclear ambitions. The more outraged you are at the way the American government represses democratic forces inside America, the more urgent the negotiation option becomes.
It really is aw aste of time posting anything here except hate speech.
hate speech i give you the wapo and its editors and columists. and the nyt and miller, gordon and friedman and the rosenthal(s) and many more. or all the tv channels giving us "news". and the think/propaganda tanks and university professors and their students. and i give you the usa govt.
here you get close to truth. the above gives hate and with that hate torture and death.
one can seek truth through facts and inference or one can get it direct by drinking from Rabbi Yar gusher.
Israel also needs to be made to feel safe
No prizes for guessing what that would take. The Zionists will not feel easy in mind as long as the Palestinian people remains unliquidated, as long as the filthy subhuman goyim continue to infest the land.
Kinzer as far as we know is another Chomsky, a guy whose credibility comes from savaging support for the US government and revealing semi-secret histories of CIA craziness. We have to recheck our library at another location to verify if his All The Shah's Men mentioned Israeli training of SAVAK; mostly it focused pretty exclusively on Kermit and the "countercoup."
traducteur | 04.03.08 - 3:08 pm |
Well, yes, and then you've got all those germs on all those doorknobs.
http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/...chs-
daught.html
Is Murdoch a McCain, Clinton or Obama man? One thing sure; he's not a Nader man.
here are the facts about the alleged so-called "British terrorists" who allegedly are claimed to have attempted to blow up bombs on airlines!!!
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Au...06/
Petras25.htm
"That Sharon and some of his settler friends were virtually the only politicians in the West....
Israel is not the West. William Kristol and co. were anti-Serb, pro-
Bosnian Muzzie at the time, (for conveneience.)
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 04.03.08 - 8:43 am
That makes you more liberal than Atzmon on the subject.
It's some kind of seizure, I think. Won't last very long.
lobro | 04.03.08 - 1:58 pm
rather than proving something about Shamir, you have just Judaized Skunk.
Rowan Berkeley | Homepage | 04.03.08 - 2:28 pm
I would put it that the only Jewish groups which can be called anti-racist across the board are those who press the case for wide and pervasive prostlytizing. Know of any?
I mean the American Council of Judaism has said something like "it ought to be considered," but....
lobro | 04.03.08 - 2:49 pm
I believe the Rev. Wright could be quoted here, as applied to Katrina e.g.
Xymphora concludes his posting with the ungrammatical and nonsensical sentence:
"Reality would have set in a long time ago if the settler movement, backed up by the de facto support of the American Jewish community (as much as the lite Zionists may try to deny it), has also taken control of the American government."
The final clause "has also taken control of the American government" ought to read: "HAD also NOT taken control of the American government".
Otherwise, Xymphora is in top form.
Sorry, only just read Comment 1 by righteo.
ken, i simply hypothesized something that actually didn't make a whole lot of sense, a common approach in math, to assume the opposite, then disprove it, so that what remains is the truth (in this case, merely a likelihood, as good as it gets in real life).
At no time did I claim that Shamir and Kapner are double-agent types, though not impossible, only unlikely.
Who is Skunk?
I realize you aim, but others might not be Lobro-savvy. Skunk is the malefactor behind the intentionally
dissembling Judicial Inc.
I believe Berkeley recently conceded
he would regarfd an insincere conversion to Russian Orthodoxy by Shamir as leaving him in a more respectable state than a sincere conversion. Such is the angular
unconventional analyzing oft apace at Xymph, which of course needs
perspectivising, if only subtly at times.
lobro | 04.03.08 - 2:49 pm
Good point well made.
This seems to be a debate about whether it wrong to desire a world in which people have a right to live lives of child-like truth and innocence without being harassed and preyed upon by criminals, thieves, liars and devil worshipers. I think it's indisputable that a majority of humanity believes they do have that right.
Unfortunately it would seem that it's going to be necessary for the innocent peace-loving people to kill the people who actively disagree in order to preserve / bring about their dream of an innocent world. If so, one must ask "Where / when will the killing end?" It's quite a dilemna in my opinion.
Ken Hoop | 04.03.08 - 4:40 pm | #
Good point Hoop. I remember hearing Rabbi Barry Freundel of Kesher Israel in Washington explain why proselytism is frowned own--the bad precedent that led to Christianity.
Whatever Hoop says about the judicial biz site, its pictures are worth a thousand words. And they are accurate so far as I have been able to check them out.
http://antiwar.com/radio/2008/03...chael-schwartz/
Scott Horton interview Michael Schwartz.
It is a remarkable coincidence that virtually everyone who explains to us that the Iraq war is all about oil happens to be jewish.
Ken Hoop |04.03.08 - 5:30 pm|
Mondo bizarro: when insincerity implies respectability.
US taxpayer | 04.03.08 - 9:05 pm
That's as may be, however it's quite different from saying that oil was irrelevant. I read in the last day or so that Iraq's current oil production is 2.4 million bls per day. At circa $100 per bl that's $7.5Billion per month and $90Billion per annum - the bulk of which is exported. The accounting of the income derived is by no means clear.
On judicial-inc, I find it remarkable that someone who (apparently) spends a lot of time lodging and pursuing FOI requests should attract the label of 'skunk'.
El Skunko has an account at libertyforum.org as Skunk.
Self-named.
Skunk fan, moi, above.
US taxpayer | 04.03.08 - 9:03 pm | #
Yeah the pictures are deep and timely. Most of the stories seem plausible, however, J-inc went off the deep end with the Duke non-rape trial. It was a black and white race story and J-inc tried to turn it into a jews get out of jail free story (seligman). Made me question the overall credibility and objectivity of said author. Same can be said for Xymphora on that story, but I don't come here to read Xymph, I come here to read you guys.
These "settlers" are really
SQUATTER-settlers and they will
NEVER feel safe because they are
a "superior" paranoid people
http://100777.com/node/603
who are uneasy having SUB-human
"cattle" anywhere near them.
http://www.hoffman-info.com/
talm...almudtruth.html
Famous German iconoclast wrote pungently about jewish sense of innate nobility.
On the Jews and Their Lies, 1543 by Martin Luther
http://www.libertyforum.org/show...sb=5&o=21&
part=
Iraq's current oil production is 2.4 million bls per day. At circa $100 per bl that's $7.5Billion per month and $90Billion per annum
The Iraqi govt gets only a fraction of that. See Arab Human Development Report 2004
www.undp.pogar.org/publications/other/ahdr/
ahdr2004e.pdf
Thanks for links, Wide Awake.
This from the Hoffman's work (just started):
The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes' Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4:
"The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way."
Because they are not traffickers in Talmudic tradition, the black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been forbidden by the Zionists to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.
So, who is the anti-semite here? Obviously the Khazarian usurpers, who stole and polluted the religion, the land and the racial denomination.
Rowan claims that talmud is totally irrelevant to today's jew.
On what basis does he make this claim?
It seems to me that just about every pernicious and obnoxious facet of the "Jew" syndrome, i.e., what makes them as an organization so loathed by gentiles, is rooted entirely in Talmud and nothing else.
To all of a sudden claim that it is as gone, its mojo dead, is disingenuous.
It also begs the question: so what is it then, just the gentiles (every single ethnic subgroup on Earth, Christian or otherwise, practically, certainly the ones in any sort of proximity to a large Jewish population) blind, unreasoning hatred?
Certainly that is what the media, the amen corner, CHRC, Campus Watch, curators of Holocaust museums and assorted such propaganda spewers would like us to believe.
Speaking of polluted, I remember when they were pouring out the donated Ethiopian blood..
US taxpayer | 04.03.08 - 9:05 pm
Bush official Phillip Zelikow admitted Israel was a principal if not the cause, however. Google "Zelikow," "Iraq War."
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/...inc-
292024.html
The overwhelming consensus states, as a typical example,and I agree.
Judicial biz is crap.
Porter is revealing.
I personally tracked local Judicial stories featuring "Jews" and found invented names and/or Judaized names, Gentile names changed or left out, anything to create a pre-decided reality. Kind of like the Downing Street Memo, the "facts" invented or cherrypicked to suit the war and in this case it's a war to embarrass and discredit the case against Zionism and all spinoffs.
That makes sense, Ken.
There is no Truth Shop where one can get it off the shelf and any outlet claiming otherwise is sure to have propaganda as its core product.
The best way to disguise the facts is to roll them in crap until they are unrecognizable and it has become an online industry.
It destroys the credibility of not just the underlying truth but also the naifs who bought it wholesale.
I also looked into Carlos Porter's objections to Skunk and he is bang on.
Besides, Porter is a serious guy and a definite asset to truth seekers.
Quote:
I note that the last source given on his "Coeur d'Alene Idaho" file (which again he has misspelled in the file name and file itself) is Nizkor. His other sources include the ADL (David Lane and Louis Beam), the Southern Poverty Law Center, and a few assorted Marxists sites, such as http://www.onepeoplesproject.com.../site/
index.php, described by judicial.inc.biz as "a good website on Rev. Butler and Hayden lake" (I quote).
Perhaps this explains something.
Perhaps this explains his attitude towards factual mistakes; his arrogance and indifference to the truth; and his desire to smear all white racists and nationalists, whatever you wish to call them. How can anybody with his alleged attitude towards Jews use Nizkor, the ADL and Morris Seligman Dees's notorious rip-off outfit, as a source?
If true, this would also explain "Skunkie"'s notorious secretiveness.
I wish to stress that my intent is not to destroy his credibility, but to get him to clean up his act so I can believe what he says. I don't think this will happen.
More entertainment from Wide Awake's link to Hoffman's dissection of Talmud:
Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
There you go. Since I don't want to end up in jail as a denier, i will reference that one to claim 4 billion perished, plus 16 million children, plus or minus 6 million, no big deal, call it a "standard deviation".
4 billion lampshades!
Now I know where Eli Wiesel's stories of Babi Yar jew-geysers come from: from the oil producing sands of Kuwait, Iraq and Saudi peninsula, where many gushers are spouting the holy grease.
This Big Oil is product of the 4 billion holocausted jews and it supports their claim to be the rightful owners.
Esso should change their slogan from "Put a tiger in your tank" ...
Still I believe Martin Luther was judging right (sometimes harsh expressions), but like the NT is still basis of Christian culture, even if secularized, so the rabbies had the Talmud for hundreds of years as anti-Christian book of hate and lies. Christianity may have made many or more failures, but is was open to all while the Talmudists were an "anti" conspiracy, and are now widely calling Luther an anti-semite, which is absurd.
In secular times, terms can be more modern, like the "lies" are opinions in the mass-media and history books and hate is openly directed against Iraq, Iran, Pals a.o., called politics, i.e. that the Bush regime and ziocons are disregarding int. law and committing the "highest crime" of war- aggression without cause and get away with it, is nothing less than Talmudic, ("law doesn't hinder us"- Nuernberg was for loosers/goim), as Martin Luther described it.
sometimes it seems like the debate revolves around the morals of lamprey
bad lamprey, don't do that, not nice ...
the host fish does not look happy with that sucker hanging off his side.
HW - on the topic of Iraqi oil revenue, your estimate is close to that in this article:
Iraq Oil Profits Being Misused?
http://www.oilvoice.com/n/Iraq_O...d/
1ea49a1d.aspx
you can't blame jews for the fact that the middle ages are over, fritz. they would have ended anyway, sooner or later.
Righteo's OilVoice link confirms that priority No 1 for US politicians is depicting Iraqis as Untermenschen and lying about Iraqis and the occupation at every opportunity.
Sens. Carl Levin, D-Mich, and John Warner, R-Va, want to look deeper in to the matter by investigating how Iraq handles this money.
[By the end of the article it's clear that Iraqis do not have access to the oil revenue]
Iraq pays for fuel that is required by its own army.
[Having money deducted from one own inaccessible funds isn't the accepted mean of "pay for"]
It also heavily depends on U.S dollars to provide citizens with basic amenities.
[But only since America looted and destroyed Iraq's economy]
There is a large quantity of funds, close to $45 billion, required for reconstruction.
Levin and Warner wrote in a letter to the head of the Government Accountability Office describing that, “it has been overwhelmingly U.S. taxpayer money that has funded Iraq reconstruction over the last five years, despite Iraq earning billions of dollars in oil revenue over that time period that have ended up in non-Iraqi banks".
['Iraq reconstruction' is a Yankee euphemism for destroying Iraq's infrastructure and not lifting a finger to repair/replace it after 5 years. Building US 'embassies' and military bases isn't reconstruction, no matter how fast Levin and Warner spin it].
They further added that, "At the same time, our conversations with both Iraqis and Americans during our frequent visits to Iraq, as well as official government and unofficial media reports, have convinced us that the Iraqi government is not doing nearly enough to provide essential services and improve the quality of life of its citizens".
[This is disingenuous claptrap from the senators. Iraqis cannot access the oil revenue. To pretend that they can by claiming they're not doing enough is Zionist-grade hypocrisy]
The senators have predicted that Iraq will earn at least $100 billion from oil revenues in 2007 and 2008. However, government and military officials have to say that Iraq is going to face difficulties in managing these funds.
[Of course they 'have to say' that. Nobody can manage something they don't have access to and over which they have no control]
They convey that the problems related to the distribution of funds are not due to the laziness or corruption. However, Baghdad is unable to properly allocate these resources. This failure can be largely attributed to the inability of Iraqi officials in handing this matter.
[And therein lies the pretty convincing proof that Iraq's oil revenue is being stolen by Americans behind a tissue of insinuations that they're incompetent managers of money the never see - apart from a little hush-money to selected 'Iraqi Government' officials and United States Senators]
Levin and Warner wrote in a letter to the head of the Government Accountability Office describing that, “it has been overwhelmingly U.S. taxpayer money that has funded Iraq reconstruction over the last five years, despite Iraq earning billions of dollars in oil revenue over that time period that have ended up in non-Iraqi banks".
Oh, really?
Lets see the copy received by the GAO. My money says the letter exists only in the minds of Levin & Warner.
... or, if the letter does exist, then the GAO's reply neither supported nor confirmed their agenda.
From the little I've read, Martin Luther did more accuse the rabbis, that did not follow Moses` 10 commandments, that Christians are also respecting (thou shall not give false witness (or so)),- instead they followed the talmud. The Jews he may have considered as followers of them, and before that, he had told them to convert. It is said, some betrayed him, when he supplied them with passports. It's a late scripture, before Luther did not write against Jews - as far as I know.
At his time 1525, the middle ages were mostly over, it was Renaissance, and rabbis or Jews did not have the influence to change the cultural period.
Before Vatican II Luther's views on the jews were more or less what sunday school christianity taught, at least in my neck of the woods. Christianity was anti-judaic though not anti-semitic. The holohuggers at Vat II changed all that, and lost the useful distinction between the two concepts, much to the detriment of christianity and the oxymoronic advent of judeo-christianity.
Now the ratchet has been applied to equate the quite different concepts of anti-zionist with anti-semitic, to the great glee of the zionists running rings around the poor benighted christians.
Bring back Luther and his muscular christianity, I say. It would do everyone a world of good.
That is ridiculous, that these senators accuse the Iraqis for the situation. If they wanted, they could have followed these 100 or so billions, that don't disappear just like that.(or not? like the Pentagon billions before 911/Iraq war). But at least half of the occupation is "privatized" by corporations, they don't even mention.
HW - also allegations that:
US not paying Iraq tens of millions owed for fuel
http://mparent7777-1.blogspot.co...f-
millions.html
I think a while back at iraq-war.ru there was an article that from mid-2008 the food rations upon which millions of Iraqis depend, will be drastically cut because of funding difficulties. Yeah, right, intended result: genocide by starvation, an ancient craft well honed by bolsheviks, zionists & yankees on respective native populations unlucky enough to fall into their clutches.
Meanwhile the zionist senators suggest that Baghdad can't imagine how to spend their untold billions of Iraqi oil wealth?
It's possible that Iraqis are being starved into submission, because they just don't quite pass the Hydrocarbon Law that the invaders demand.
Luther condemned the Reanissance popes as devils, for their usury (i.e.letters of indulgence) and that they lied and didn't follow their own teachings.
So it was consequent to condemn the more the Jews and rabbis as anti-Christ followers. Today they have a purged version of the Talmud to deceive the unread. That was a point: they don't even follow Moses' 10 commandments. And as I know Lutheran pastors around 1900 said the same as Luther. it be interesting: the role of Jewish moneylenders at that time in Rome.
There is another point, that Luther wanted to preserve the medieval order and in the middle ages Germans led by the Kaiser often or mostly were at war with the Roman Vatican. It was about power but also about what today is called self-determination as a people, or nationalism. Luther translated the bible and so created a common German language. All this then becomes tragic when the 30-years-war followed.
Today's Judeo- Christian idea is a contradiction: Luther said, the rabbis don't follow Moses.
here it is, 1/4 down the page, Martin Luther:
" I once experienced this myself. Three learned Jews came to me, hoping to discover a new Jew in me because we were beginning to read Hebrew here in Wittenberg, and remarking that matters would soon improve since we Christians were starting to read their books. When I debated with them, they gave me their glosses, as they usually do. But when I forced them back to the text, they soon fled from it, saying that they were obliged to believe their rabbis as we do the pope and the doctors, etc. I took pity on them and give them a letter of recommendation to the authorities, asking that for Christ's sake they let them freely go their way. But later, I found out that they called Christ a tola, that is, a hanged highwayman. Therefore I do not wish to have anything more to do with any Jew. As St. Paul says, they are consigned to wrath; the more one tries to help them the baser and more stubborn they become. Leave them to their own devices."
That the Jews do not believe it does not concern us; we believe their accursed glosses still less. We let them go their way and wait for their Messiah. Their unbelief does not harm us; but as to the help they derive and to date have derived from it, they may ask of their long-enduring exile. That will, in deed, supply the answer for us. Let him who will not follow lag behind. They act as though they were of great importance to us. Just to vex us, they corrupt the sayings of Scripture. We do not at all desire or require their conversion for any advantage, usefulness, or help accruing to us therefrom. All that we do in this regard is prompted rather by a concern for their welfare. If they do not want it, they can disregard it; we are excused and can easily dispense with them, together with all that they are, have, and can do for salvation. We have a better knowledge of Scripture, thanks be to God; this we are certain of, and all the devils shall never deprive us of it, much less the miserable Jews.
Luther then goes into Chaldean and Hebrew scripture, anout the scepter and the rule of David- until the Messiah.
Did you see the incorrect statement at the top:
WARNING: This is a Notorious Antisemitic Document!
when it should read:
WARNING: This is a Notorious Antijudaic Document!
or even:
ATTENTION: This is a Famous Antijudaic Document!
That is great: Luther explains the whole ides of law and authority also medieval: and how it was founded on the tales of Solomon and David.
...saphra is the same as the Hebrew sopher (for Chaldee and Hebrew are closely related, indeed they are almost identical, just as Saxons and Swabians both speak German, but still there is a great difference). The word sopher we commonly translate into the German by means of Kanzler ["chancellor"]. Everyone, including Burgensis, translates the word saphra with scriba or scribe. These people are called scribes in the Gospel. They are not ordinary scribes who write for wages or without official authority. They are sages, great rulers, doctors and professors, who teach, order, and preserve the law in the state. I suppose that it also encompasses the chancelleries, parliaments, councillors, and all who by wisdom and justice aid in governing...
For wherever sheer power prevails without the law, where the sultan is guided by his arbitrary will and not by duty, there is no government, but tyranny, akin to that of Nero, Caligula, Dionysius, Henry of Brunswick, and their like. Such does not endure long. On the other hand, where there is law but no power to enforce it, there the wild mob will also do its will and no government can survive. Therefore both must be present: law and power, sultan and saphra, to supplement one another....
Under Herod and after Herod, however, it fell into ruin and came to an end. It was so completely destroyed that even Jerusalem, once the throne-seat of the tribe of Judah, and the land of Canaan were wiped out. Thus the verse was fulfilled which said that the sultan has departed and the Messiah has come....
I do not have the time at present to demonstrate what a rich fountainhead this verse is and how the prophets drew so much information from it concerning the fall of the Jews and the election of the Gentiles, about which the modern Jews and bastards know nothing at all. But we have clearly and forcefully seen from this verse that the Messiah had to come at the time of Herod. The alternative would be to say that God failed to keep his promise and, consequently, lied. No one dare do that save the accursed devil and has servants, the false bastards and strange Jews. They do this incessantly. In their eyes God must be a liar. They claim that they are right when they assert that the Messiah has not yet come, despite the fact that God declared in very plain words that the Messiah would come before the scepter had entirely departed from Judah....
Yes- it is falsely called anti-semitic - since the medieval idea of kingdom was theologically funded on the AT and David, Salomon, maybe superficially. But Luther said, the rabbis have distorted the scriptures and turned them upside down. (nothing to do with semitism).
righteo | 04.05.08 - 9:16 am
Quite so. And further proof, if proof were needed, that the Yankees are planning the classic counterinsurgency tactic - "Kill 'em all!"
Or as the survivors of the 'winning' Holocaust (as distinct from the Russian, Armenian or Palestinian Holocausts) might put it - a Final Solution solution to Israel's dream of abundant oil for the world's cheapest cheapskates from the world's deadest Untermenschen.
The link to Michael Hoffman by
Wide Awake | 04.04.08 - 6:08 am |
also has many points of agreement with Luther.
No doubt the ugly duckling of racial supremacy, Madeleine Albright, will remain true to form and assure the world once more that "the price (paid by Iraqis) was worth it."
Solitudinem fecerunt, pacem appelunt - They made a desert and called it peace. (Tacitus)
http://www.yuni.com/library/latin_7.html
Fritz, maybe the Messiah did come but all the 'enlightened ones' missed it, due to ignorance of Who they were waiting for and the passion of their own prideful lives of pseudo-spirituality.
hp. so it is written, the more modern men would miss someone on a donkey also, seen as a myth (as TigerEye said) (not that someone has arrived but like a myth pointing in a direction) or historical. And for us the middle ages are not easy to understand too, like when the myth was alive.
Having read half, Luther is not anti-semitic (as they claim on many websites) but it is about: the rule over Canaan, that the Jews claimed, has ended with Herodes - brings us to the settlements Xymph mentioned -
to that at Luther's time the rabbis apparently claimed to have been given by God the rule over more countries then PAL, and he rejects this. But he said power is necessary to have justice and not arbitrariness. (so not power for powers sake).
Mad Madeleine ugly?
You racist, you.
She is beautiful and anyone who denies it is a Denier and the equally radiant Dorothy Lipstadt will come screeching to the resue.
Fritz, perhaps He appeared in the East and they missed it. Again. If you want to rule the worlds, both this one and heaven, then it's best to not have any competition, I imagine.
That's Deborah Lipstadt to you. Some say she's a man, and it's even been suggested she's really Jonathon Netanyahu who was nominally bumped off in the Entebbe Raid (but was only pretending to be dead, like in the movies). Might explain her interest in holohoax survivor testimonies, if she has her own tall tale of involuted survivorship.
Oh well, abject apologies all around, especially to Dorothy.
Yes hp, there often was this competition Rome (pope) and Kaiser, though they understood themselves inside of this order, God's kingdom, not above. The middle ages were a mixture of Germanic/Celtic rules and Christian - a warrior-Christianity. The rabbis are something alien seeking to rule by fraud, as in Mattthew 23 the pharisees.
In the middle ages an ideal of order was there, so that the robbers and usurers don't have free hand as today. But I think, to seek power over others only for powers sake, is like black magic. And this temptation was often there. Though some worldly order is necessary. And some people as I read are natural leaders, teachers /gurus. Good for others if they are not selfish. The problem is, with the one God and claiming that this one only rules heavens and earth. I think here they were often fanatics, like the (some) Spanish in SouthAmerica to destroy cultures and rob them. Otherwise the medieval virtues, that was makes Europeans, were helpful as an ideal, and not to get lost in negative entanglements. It's difficult though, to regard what was good about history with the many catastrophes. Also to mention, TigerEye was probably wrong about Luther, that he was somehow used by the rabbis.
All would be good to have a just social order, not to worry about, and to strive for unknown other worlds maybe.. But today it looks like the last days of chaos.
could that be: Dorothy Lipshitz ... (dictionary
.. saves the World is a comedy television pilot.. by NBC in July 2006. The show was not picked up for air.
The premise of the show is that teenage outcast Adam Lipshitz (played by Jack Carpenter) discovers that he may be the one person who can save the world. Creator Dan Fogelman describes the show as similar to The Matrix.
(haven't seen that, the Matrix)
No Fritz, Righteo is correct, I did mean Deborah Lipstadt, the one that rubbed her claws in glee (see the picture) after pushing Irving into the slammer for speaking the Ho-ho-caust truth.
Even after licking and pasting jewstamps into my album for so long, I still get mixed up. Does the storyline mention anything about them turned into glue?
And hey, can I pry the gun from Charlton's cold, dead hands please?
I've been waiting so long ... he may be cold and dead but every bit as smart as when he was alive.
And hey, can I pry the gun from Charlton's cold, dead hands please?
Good one, lobro.
ROFLMAO. Thanks.
Fritz, borrow The Matrix. Its conspiracy theory is almost as spectacular as the special effects.
Red pill, blue pill, was the mostest for me.
Lipszad em Lipstadt, ruined nearly the brave Irving, I read it..
But what you mentioned hoarsewhisperer, on some conspiracy pages I read, that they may divert big sums from the Iraq war like before the Pentagon billions, taxpayer's money (plus oilprices), probably accounting is all wrong. Maybe divert it for other things, shadow gvtm, NWO..
But here are often discussions of scientists, that let us see anything older like a way to paradise. Today it's worse than materialism, it's more like mechanical materialism. i.e. they measure how many millisec a Japanese sustains a facial expression compared with other ethnics after having been shown pictures of i.e. cruelties. The "brain" they say is like a computer sending molecules from electric centers. They even believe all that would be good, while it's clearly used for control, advertisement and massmedia.
hp. to continue with this idea: "competition if you want to rule"
there would be more about. It's right, in the middle ages, they had an universal order, at least they thought so. Now, Jesus pointed to a way to heaven or out from this usual world or so. He said the Pharisees were closing any way out for their followers (Matthew 23). This is a clear thing, and Luther said almost the same. He didn't want to see them anymore.
The more problems come, when the Church destroyed and burned the witches and before Albigenses/ Cathars who of course were manichean dualists.. I just saw this nice site from the Languedoc (SouthFrance), but I will have to read it:
http://www.languedoc-france.info.../
12_cathars.htm
Certainly I have no final opinion about all this, because should know more about the Christian mystics like Meister Eckhard...
Fritz, I've heard that those who nourish no interest in mysticism at all, even as they are immersed in the transcendental realization of God through devotional service, are also the very ones who contain all mystic potency. As God is Yogeshvara, the Supreme Mystic.
true, hp, we don't have to know it all. But I have great respect for history, even collected a big heap of culture, paper and CD's that become a ballast. So the best to do is to get some order into it- more for to make it transparent. Jesus was it, who said become like the children, I think..and finally we have to do directly with the world (as I read: as living energy).
But there is a common misunderstanding that the middle ages were that bad: it was the age of enlightenment (reason)with the persecution of the witches. So reason only, is not to be trusted as salvation (which you did not say, but it is common opinion today).
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