document.write("<script language=\"javascript1.2\" type=\"text/javascript\">function emo_pop() {window.open('http://www.haloscan.com/commenthelp.php','Help','width=200,height=360,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes');}</script><table width=\"97%\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" class=\"MainTable\">  <tr>    <td>    <div align=\"center\">    </div>    </td>  </tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42094\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=23ff3699be0230ef2c58224eb045354d&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />There is no debate on \"macro versus micro\" evolution. This guy is a fool.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Stephen | 12.16.08 - 6:58 pm | <a href=\"#42094\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42097\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=5785bb77935fa2a771aef8f361d150d8&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />I'm with you Stephen. What a chump.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Seth | 12.16.08 - 7:27 pm | <a href=\"#42097\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42101\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=26169933dd064d0fa7641d7041048f00&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />\"6000 in some people's mind or 4 billion in other people's mind.\"<br><br>This is precisely the problem with the American media. it's not so much a concern what is true, only what people 'think' is true. <br><br>\"teach the controversy,\" yes, there is no controversy here.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Ivan Brugere | 12.16.08 - 10:34 pm | <a href=\"#42101\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42103\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=445f4f58ddf98cc979df04f1ac720901&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />So many politicians lie just to win. I wouldn't doubt that Bush is far less religious than he has tried to paint himself to be the past 8 years. Now Palin was another story. I also wonder about Obama. I think he is too smart to be a true believer. He probably went to Rev. Wright's church for the entertainment value.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Nancy | 12.16.08 - 11:04 pm | <a href=\"#42103\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42112\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=36322388641379c8b3756669d44c826a&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />In his book \"God in the White House\" Randall Balmer points out that what candidates say about religion during campaigns has little to do with how they act once in office and gives numerous examples from Kennedy to Bush 2. <br><br>The Religious Right (or whatever the equivalent was called early on) supported Reagan who almost never attended church over Carter who seemed hold to admirable, although misguided, religious ideals. They supported Nixon. Norman Vincent Peale remarked about Nixon's religious belief, \"I don't think he ever let it bother him.\"<br><br>Balmer writes about W: \"The administration of the man who trumpets his morality deceived the nation (and the world) about the justifications for the invasion of Iraq and went to extraordinary lengths to discredit those who exposed the deceptions. The administration of the man who claims to be a Christian and to embody Christian values ignored centuries of Christian thinking and writing on what is or is not a 'just war'... The Bush administration, which claims to uphold human rights, has authorized the use of torture against those it designates as 'enemy combatants.' This is the same administration that claims to be 'pro-life' because of its efforts to defend the fetus. Yet it engages in the most degrading and demeaning actions imaginable against fully formed human beings.\"<br><br>If the Religious Right supported W, and never called him on the discrepancies between his supposed beliefs and his actions, they got what they deserved. <br><br>We atheists often point out the nasty, vengeful god of the Bible, but the religious say we don't know the real god or Jesus. I'm afraid we do and the Religious Right seems to as well. If they continued to support Bush through 8 years of nasty and vengeful behavior, that demonstrates what their real \"Christian values\" are.<br><br>And now they have the nerve to get all huffy over his remarks about the Bible and evolution. What a bunch of hypocrites.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           C Woods | <a href=\"http://tirelesswing.blogspot.com\" title=\"http://tirelesswing.blogspot.com\">Homepage</a> | 12.17.08 - 1:37 am | <a href=\"#42112\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42117\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=638da4c28dcda7f47a6b4e36f539b55b&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />Wait... hang on...<br><br>They are surprised that someone doesn't think the bible is completely, literally true?<br><br>This being controversial is a scary idea. Very scary.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Jon | 12.17.08 - 6:41 am | <a href=\"#42117\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42118\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=0e35a47bc8cfe0e1909b48cb4dbf8c9d&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />For once he said something clever!<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Jonzie | <a href=\"http://weneedcoffee.blogspot.com/\" title=\"http://weneedcoffee.blogspot.com/\">Homepage</a> | 12.17.08 - 6:43 am | <a href=\"#42118\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42125\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />What about Spiderman...<br /><span class=\"byline\">           DoctorE | <a href=\"http://doctore.blog.is/\" title=\"http://doctore.blog.is/\">Homepage</a> | 12.17.08 - 7:50 am | <a href=\"#42125\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42130\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />The religious right are bunch of fools.  The republicans and the neo-cons played them very well.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Milhouse | 12.17.08 - 9:43 am | <a href=\"#42130\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42134\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=5435cea2c86f9d7e188e84ed1fb334b7&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />It's been obvious to everyone but the \"religious right\" that Bush and his people played them for their votes. Bush now doesnt have to keep up the facade. Of course this is going to be a wasted wake up call for those people to not let themselves get fooled again.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           MAZZ | 12.17.08 - 11:35 am | <a href=\"#42134\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42135\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=2c5a918f0b5b041a9ab18c9408edd46f&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />Im sortof thinking that Bush will go catholic like Tony Blair... and perhaps join him on the Interfaith bs.<br>Or start drinking full time.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           DoctorE | <a href=\"http://doctore.blog.is/\" title=\"http://doctore.blog.is/\">Homepage</a> | 12.17.08 - 12:20 pm | <a href=\"#42135\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42138\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d1cf2e2ce4c9cf3443b12487ea63a48f&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />Emmy Award Winner? They give out awards for ignorance now?<br /><span class=\"byline\">           lumpi | 12.17.08 - 12:25 pm | <a href=\"#42138\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42227\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />So Bush and Rove used fundies for the tools that they are. So I don't see what the big surprise is? Everybody knew that already. Except for the fundies I guess! Duuuhhh....<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Anonymous | 12.18.08 - 6:56 pm | <a href=\"#42227\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr>    <td class=\"InputCell\">                  <div id=\"newcomment\"></div><form method=\"post\" name=\"addComment\" action=\"http://www.haloscan.com/comments/atheistmedia/7904263765932233586/\" target=\"_self\">        <p>    Name: <br />          <input name=\"name\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          Email:<br />          <input name=\"email\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          URL: <br />          <input name=\"url\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          Comment:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"javascript:emo_pop()\" title=\"Smiley and tag help\" target=\"_self\">?</a>&nbsp;<br />          <textarea name=\"addMessage\" rows=\"12\" cols=\"38\"></textarea><br /><input type=\"checkbox\" name=\"subscribe\" id=\"subscribe\" value=\"1\" /><label for=\"subscribe\">Notify me of followup comments via email</label>        </p>        <p class=\"PSubmit\"><input name=\"submit\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Publish\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\" class=\"SubmitButton\" />&nbsp;<input name=\"previewMessage\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Preview\" class=\"SubmitButton\" />        </p>      <input type='hidden' name='user' value='atheistmedia' /><input type='hidden' name='comment' value='7904263765932233586' /></form>    </td></tr>  <tr>    <td><p align=\"center\">        Commenting by <a href=\"http://www.haloscan.com/\" target=\"_blank\">HaloScan</a></p>      </td>  </tr></table><img src=\"http://c5.statcounter.com/counter.php?sc_project=561713&amp;java=0&amp;security=01eeff58\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" /></body>");