document.write("<script language=\"javascript1.2\" type=\"text/javascript\">function emo_pop() {window.open('http://www.haloscan.com/commenthelp.php','Help','width=200,height=360,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes');}</script><table width=\"97%\" align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\" border=\"0\" class=\"MainTable\">  <tr>    <td>    <div align=\"center\">    </div>    </td>  </tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31405\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=6e6870df4739c57f4e3133d0118f5e4f&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />Wow. This is the last guy in the world who should use the term arrogance to describe an atheist.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           AaronF | 08.19.08 - 8:15 pm | <a href=\"#31405\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31410\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />I agree.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Melissa | 08.19.08 - 9:48 pm | <a href=\"#31410\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31437\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />\"The Presidency is a job too big for one person.\"<br><br>Strangely, though, White House Staff + a VP can't 'hold a candle' to the power of god to help that President, is his point.  Just pat Warren on the head, and smile - poor little guy is disturbed by self-reliance.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           James P | <a href=\"http://jamespfp.livejournal.com\" title=\"http://jamespfp.livejournal.com\">Homepage</a> | 08.20.08 - 12:55 am | <a href=\"#31437\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31439\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=37dce375c93c02f68af31f50040c2cee&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />what a tragically poor reasoning.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           fair | 08.20.08 - 1:00 am | <a href=\"#31439\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31440\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=59692cd5adc6ec5dd0c379e08743da09&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />And it's not arrogant to think that all but the very few people who believe *exactly* as you do are wrong and will suffer an eternity in hell because of it?<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Jason | 08.20.08 - 1:05 am | <a href=\"#31440\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31467\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />That he could vote for someone of another religion because they are \"willing to admit\" that the job of the presidency is \"too big for one person\" speaks pretty loudly to the fact that apparently it doesn't matter to these people whether or not that \"other person\" actually exists.<br><br>Stop and think about that for a minute.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Wronghead | 08.20.08 - 7:26 am | <a href=\"#31467\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31468\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />This man has no brain.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           DoctorE | <a href=\"http://doctore.blog.is/\" title=\"http://doctore.blog.is/\">Homepage</a> | 08.20.08 - 7:44 am | <a href=\"#31468\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31476\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=fc2f989ce435b81b2bf677f7e363a792&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />I would prefer one that were able to say, \"I don't know everything, and folding my hands is unlikely to yield answers out of the blue...Lets ask the people who are likely to have some answers to my questions\"<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Grandt | 08.20.08 - 10:58 am | <a href=\"#31476\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31477\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />All I heard was \"I need somebody to wipe my ass for me\"<br /><span class=\"byline\">           JayUK | 08.20.08 - 11:06 am | <a href=\"#31477\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"31478\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=893d1fbe15567031ac055d4ae3a00809&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />I could not vote for a pastor for President.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Gary | 08.20.08 - 11:08 am | <a href=\"#31478\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"37027\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=1abd095e319a03a2faba9810dfb3d140&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />If you know Ricks point IN CONTEXT, you \"might\" hear it differently. What he actually says in other places is that your convictions will determine your decisions. Convictions such as the belief of spiritual freedome of our founding fathers of whom nearly 2/3 who signed the consitution were PASTORS!  Your beliefs drive your decisions. If you believe in evolutionary \"ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE\" then your decisions in government will be influenced by that. Do you want that the next time YOU are sick in the hospital? Do you want an evolutionist in the decision making capacity to decide if you should get some medical help or if we should use those resources on the strong?  My guess is that many on this board are angry at god/religion or of the mindset that you do not want to be accountable to a \"higher power.\"  For all the blathering of how rational it is to NOT believe... I think you miss the best that those beliefs have offered us over the years. America and freedom is one of those things... there are countless others. INCLUDING HOSPITALS which began as an outreach of the church to help the hurting and diseased. You do remember the story of Jesus right? Going around healing and doing good? Regardless of if you believe it or not, the fact is that hospitals were founded on the notion that we should try to be like JESUS and heal the sick.  What is more, often you all like to blast the church as ignorant or non-thinking. Do you even KNOW who started the study of genetics? MONKS. Do you know who Galileo was trying to praise by studying the heavens and their movements? True some in the church didn't like it... but if you ever READ original sources you'd see he was after the PRAISE of almighty God by studying his creation.  These are good things that come from belief. Are there bad also? Yes, of course. But I cannot remember the last time an atheist bothered to acknowledge what has been GOOD about the belief in God.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Keith | 10.11.08 - 1:31 pm | <a href=\"#37027\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42351\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />well said Gary.  You brought up excellent points on the contributions that the God (of the bible) believing community has done for society.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Doo Wop | 12.20.08 - 11:49 am | <a href=\"#42351\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42482\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=191627d947a250bbb79728be939c78d4&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />Keith<br>“ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE” has relevance only at the genetic level. The way you put it implies nothing of the natural conditions Darwin was describing. Go read a book on the subject and forget you ever saw the mocumentary, Expelled.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Gene Goldring | 12.22.08 - 4:49 pm | <a href=\"#42482\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr><td class=\"MessageCell\">    <a name=\"42545\"></a>        <p><img src=\"http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=e82095042ff973f6d988a1225c7eb6be&amp;default=http%3A%2F%2Fec1.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Fx-locale%2Fcommon%2Ftransparent-pixel.gif&amp;rating=PG&amp;size=28\" alt=\"Gravatar\" title=\"Gravatar\" style=\"padding: 1px; margin: 2px; float: right;\" class=\"gravatar\" />Amazing how such a pathetically small and narrow mind can be so arrogant. What a pitiful wanker.<br /><span class=\"byline\">           Mick Smit | 12.23.08 - 9:32 am | <a href=\"#42545\" title=\"Link to this comment\">#</a></span></p><hr /></td></tr><tr>    <td class=\"InputCell\">                  <div id=\"newcomment\"></div><form method=\"post\" name=\"addComment\" action=\"http://www.haloscan.com/comments/atheistmedia/8692325514657556117/\" target=\"_self\">        <p>    Name: <br />          <input name=\"name\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          Email:<br />          <input name=\"email\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          URL: <br />          <input name=\"url\" type=\"text\" size=\"38\" value=\"\" /><br />          Comment:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=\"javascript:emo_pop()\" title=\"Smiley and tag help\" target=\"_self\">?</a>&nbsp;<br />          <textarea name=\"addMessage\" rows=\"12\" cols=\"38\"></textarea><br /><input type=\"checkbox\" name=\"subscribe\" id=\"subscribe\" value=\"1\" /><label for=\"subscribe\">Notify me of followup comments via email</label>        </p>        <p class=\"PSubmit\"><input name=\"submit\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Publish\" style=\"font-weight: bold;\" class=\"SubmitButton\" />&nbsp;<input name=\"previewMessage\" type=\"submit\" value=\"Preview\" class=\"SubmitButton\" />        </p>      <input type='hidden' name='user' value='atheistmedia' /><input type='hidden' name='comment' value='8692325514657556117' /></form>    </td></tr>  <tr>    <td><p align=\"center\">        Commenting by <a href=\"http://www.haloscan.com/\" target=\"_blank\">HaloScan</a></p>      </td>  </tr></table><img src=\"http://c5.statcounter.com/counter.php?sc_project=561713&amp;java=0&amp;security=01eeff58\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" /></body>");