I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Transit-oriented development!
ATRIOS WANTS US ALL TO MOVE TO PHOENIX!
Drop and don't shop!
http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com/
NTodd fears the TOD.
Atrios: I agree, but isn't a big part of the problem commuting in general? We need people living and working in the same neighbourhood, and I think that requires getting away from the entire concept of financial districts, etc.
Why do we continue to build major metro areas in the middle of a desert?
another phoenix thread?
i'll be downstairs.
Incidentally, when the railroad line located its major cross in Dallas, that turned little bitty town Dallas into the big city that it is. The antebellum cotton capitals refused the railroad and stayed little bitty.
Interesting that part of the local plan includes replication of the Mesa Southern Pacific RR station that was torn down in the past.
Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to expect everyone to go everywhere by car.
Did we do this last night?
And get GWPA all pissed off at us?
It connects downtown Phoenix with the university in Tempe. I expect that ridership will be overwhelming, much to the dismay of the naysayers. And the areas around the stops will develop mixed-use urban "centers."
Cheuront's is a good example. It's a condoplex with retail on the first floor, and it's right on Central Avenue where the light-rail goes.
Ken Cheuvront, the owner, used to be my stste rep. He actually sent me birthday cards when I was his constituent. Now he's a state senator.
He's obviously rather forward-thinking as far as urban-planning in Phoenix goes. He's openly gay, smart, has a history with the city, and I like him, gosh darn it.
i'll be downstairs.
stoat
Not me.
Allen the Stalker is down there.
As fucked up as ever.
Well, that's a first: dead-threaded when I was saying goodbye.
Anyway, these football games aren't going to watch themselves.
Have a great day, all. Catch you patriotz laterz.
The big problem in DE residential "planning" is that the push is now for Urban/High Density sprawl rising out of the rural AG lands. No infrastructure a 'tal yet it is touted as smart growth.
I envision cities becoming more of the late-19th century , pre-skyscraper mode: lots of distinct neighbourhoods with lots of mixed uses, connected by train systems. People don't have to travel twice a day by train to go to work, but they can get around easily enough when they do travel.
It's interesting to imagine TV censors making a huge issue of Pete Seeger showing up on a show involving folkish music, in the context of all the crap that doesn't bother them much.
The Republic heaved a sigh of relief when, a month after Seeger sang 'Waist Deep In The Big Muddy' on national TV, the revolution hadn't happened...
Allen the Stalker is down there.
i don't have that problem for some reason, at least part of which is i use killfile and don't peek.
there are additional reasons, i'm sure.
Tory Party is the bulwark of State secrecy, not paragons of the public’s ‘right to know.’
♪ By the time I get across Phoenix....
There's a severe water shortage coming to all the desert, much worse than it is now. No matter how convenient you make it, without H2O you have no cities. The desert indians found that out a long time ago
Puppies experimenting with oral sex!
i don't have that problem for some reason, at least part of which is i use killfile and don't peek.
I had it on killfile except I started having trouble with Firefox and had to go back to IE.
I wish there was some way it could banned, but since it uses proxy servers, that isn't possible.
i don't have that problem for some reason, at least part of which is i use killfile and don't peek.
- stoat
Sometimes the most eloquent way to show command of the English language is to say nothing.
The Oglalla aquifer, the largest in the country, is a fossil aquifer. When it's gone, it's gone.
Media Censors I think reflect the fears of the ruling elites that the masses will notice what they're doing and go all 1789 on their asses.
Puppies experimenting with oral sex!
labs?
The recession is not taking place
Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:02:43 PM by John Leland 1789
This Christian Home Schooling Family Says “NO!” to Obama’s Plans
We have home schooled our children from the very start, now almost twenty-seven years of home school education experience are behind us. We have seven children. Four are grown, graduated, and away. Two are married and have their own children. Three remain in our house and continue to be home schooled. Our youngest is seven years old.
We home school with a foundation of firm Christian and traditional family convictions and objectives. We intend for our children to mature and turn out in a certain way. We do not want them to turn out in the fashion of the godless and humanistic (Psalm One). We intend to raise and educate them to know Christ and His word. What’s more, we believe that we have God’s mandate on this, and the God-given rights and prerogatives to carry this out.
Some reading this have already begun to deny in your own mind that we do have such mandates, rights and prerogatives. Some so-called conservatives would even accuse my wife and me of some form of child abuse. Our children are in church every time there is a scheduled assembly as well as at other opportunities for Christian service. In fact, outside of the home (we believe in the primacy of the Christian home for our family), our family’s entire schedule revolves around Christian service through the church to which we belong. Our friends and our children’s friends are Christian people actively involved in the Lord’s work. Other than befriending others for the purpose of evangelizing them (that means delivering to them the Gospel of Jesus Christ) or for helping new believers to grow in grace and knowledge of Christ, we find no reason whatsoever to build any close relationships with others. We have a very large circle of Christian friends, and that is safe; that is enough.
Why inflict your boring-ass lifestyle on your children?
I wish there was some way it could banned, but since it uses proxy servers, that isn't possible.
agreed, on both points.
Dying of Sadness in the Shadow of Empire
"we find no reason whatsoever to build any close relationships with others."
Just hair less nuts than the FLDS perverts if you ask me.
We have home schooled our children from the very start, now almost
twenty-seven years of home school education experience are behind us.
Don't these people have lives?
LR: parents have been foisting their boring lifestyles on their children for thousands of years. Hardly restricted to the benighted homeschooling fundies, that...
Phoenix made major mistakes by developing flat and out. The central core is served by highways and way too many people have chosen to live in that numbing sort of strip-mall suburbia requiring a long commute.
That's changing.
The line ends at a run-down mall called Christown. It will be very interesting to see how that neighborhood is revived by the train.
Okay, back on Firefox. Let's see if I can stay on it without problems.
we find no reason whatsoever to build any close relationships with others.
Believe me, no one wants to have a close relationship with you.
Family demands! Later, all.
There's a severe water shortage coming to all the desert, much worse than it is now. No matter how convenient you make it, without H2O you have no cities. The desert indians found that out a long time ago
I'm assuming by your vernacular that you are not familiar with the Phoenix area.
The good fathers of Phoenix thought through what you are describing pretty thoroughly a hundred years ago.
Which is why there is a system of lakes up north (read not desert) which supply the area with water pretty well. Not to mention a good chunk of Arizona's supply of Colorado River water via the Central Arizona Project.
Is the water supply inexhaustible? No. Is it better than a lot of Western cities including a lot that aren't typically considered "desert" cities (cough. cough. Denver. cough.)? Yes.
Why inflict your boring-ass lifestyle on your children?
It doesn't really matter in the long run - some of the kids will sneak out and have sex with non-fundie brown people and this group like all others will fade into irrelevancy.
"we find no reason whatsoever to build any close relationships with others."'
Isolation is a sign of abuse.
bye for now 
Our youngest is seven years old.
When do you plan to stop popping them out?
This Christian Home Schooling Family Says “NO!” to Obama’s Plans
"We wanna keep our kids stoopid!"
"Which is why there is a system of lakes up north (read not desert) which supply the area with water pretty well. Not to mention a good chunk of Arizona's supply of Colorado River water via the Central Arizona Project."
No rain = no run off to the lakes.
No snow = no melt off to the river.
No rain and no snow = no water.
Period.
You can build a million lakes but if they are not spring fed they WILL dry up in an extended drought.
TerryC: yup. And isolation from others is a defining feature of a cult.
"we find no reason whatsoever to build any close relationships with others."
I'm glad you won't be seeking refuge in my basement next tornado warning.
Don't these people have lives? Terry C
Plopped down in the middle of the state fair, they have chosen to seal themselves and their kids into a small windowless box. If you can call that a life....
Phoenix has great potential for water conservation. Of course this hasn't been discussed seriously, even when water levels were getting low in the Salt River reservoirs.
One Phoenix does have is plenty of sunshine, but solar energy is basically considered to be a dirty-fucking-hippie communist plot by many of the locals.
Just hair less nuts
They're bald? Or were you referring to the men's personal grooming habits?
There were reports on the first night of the attacks that gunmen had rounded up holders of American and British passports at the Oberoi and herded them upstairs. But Rattan Keswani, the president of Trident Hotels, said he had found no basis for such reports.
Frankly I never believed those reports.
Doesn't Phoenix have an inordinate amount of landscaping, golf courses etc. that require far more water than might be thought reasonable for a city in a desert?
Question:
Has Joe Lieberman been campaigning for Chambliss in Georgia?
Because - if by letting Joe keep his profile on the Senate by shutting the fuck up in Georgia, Obama's quid pro quo may have some relevance.
Water is one of the many vulenerable points to the whole Phoenix metro area. The other is suburbia. When gas hits $10 a gallon, and it surely will, everything Kunstler ever had to say will be true of Phoenix.
I think this will be a much smaller town 40 years from now. Perhaps more like it was that long ago, before the highways were built.
there must be some other subject you could post on besides your obsession with another commenter.
dirk gently, sociopathetic | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 12:24 pm | #
Really? And I thought I was only answering the false charges made against me by a liar. Silly me.
"We wanna keep our kids stoopid!" Terry C
Exactly - that's the only way to keep them from figuring out their parents are forcing them into lives of quiet desperation. The kids smart enough to figure it out and rise above their programming will escape and mingle their genes with the larger pool. Those not so endowed will remain and they will eventually breed themselves into sterility. Or possibly the British monarchy.
"we find no reason whatsoever to build any close relationships with others."' -- C. Manson, Spahn Ranch, 1969.
Doesn't Phoenix have an inordinate amount of landscaping, golf courses etc. that require far more water than might be thought reasonable for a city in a desert?
ProfWombat
I thought that was mostly Scottsdale, where everyone is rich enough to recreate the landscape of the antebellum south (complete with black jockey lawn figures) in the middle of the desert.
Troutski's brilliant girlfriend bought a beater house in a very dangerous neighborhood 5 years ago for $150K because she saw that Seattle Transit was going to build a light rail station a block away. People freaked about her buying a house in a "gang neighborhood". 5 years later, the neighborhood is gentrified and her $150K house is now worth $600K because the transit stop opens next year.
400% profit in a shitty real estate market. I luvs her brain.
I've met some intelligent folk who homeschool. Me, I wouldn't do it. My kids need more than I can give them.
Silly me.
well, now you know.
i got up nice and early this morning to get to work at nine. on arriving there i saw one of my colleagues, and said "uh-oh. this is going to suck for the one of us who isn't supposed to be here."
it was me, of course. i suppose when 'the boss' says offhandedly "there are a couple of last-minute changes in the schedule" it would make sense to actually check on it, huh?
anyway, i came home, pulled together some sweaters and elastic-waist pants of my mother's, marked 'em with her name and took them out to the assisted living place where she's settling in (i've made rather infrequent visits at the outset, as advised) and had as satisfactory a visit as her progressively more impaired mental condition permits. progress is being made... she did not go there willingly, but is apparently adjusting, in her own way.
now i've had lunch and will return to work at two (until ten... barf).
all in all, it felt similar to the way an adult might have handled the situation.
but the aging parent thing is a bitch, friends. few of us will escape it one way or another, and then it will be our own turn.
ProfWombat-
Yes, resorts, golf courses, fake little community "lakes," etc are all big water-wasters here in Phoenix. There's a carwash every square mile or so.
I've never seen such shiney cars, and it hardly ever rains. People are big into their cars here.
Me, I drive a Corolla that gets 30mpg around town.
Water is one of the many vulenerable points to the whole Phoenix metro area. The other is suburbia. When gas hits $10 a gallon, and it surely will, everything Kunstler ever had to say will be true of Phoenix.
Actually, gasoline will put the skids on further exurban development a lot quicker than water.
Although the current drop (albeit temporary) in gasoline prices have provided some relief, it's already taking a bit of a bite out of some of the more ridiculously outlying areas.
Um. I think it's called socialization, but that presupposes growing up to be part of a community.
I've met some intelligent folk who homeschool.
History shows again and again that intelligence and wise behavior are at best only distant relatives.
flying into phoenix airport...ohh man do i feel for the folks who live in the 'approach' zone.
shrimplate: well, that'll change, I'd guess.
But if you listen to folk like Amory Lovins, the lowest-hanging fruit, by far, is conservation, and we can all do far more of it than we do.
It isn't uncommon to see automatic sprinklers watering lawns in the rain here in Massachusetts, where that wet stuff falling from the sky isn't all that uncommon. Kind of hard to rank on Phoenix in that context...
A huge flock of sand hill cranes just flew over our farm with a whooping crane in the midst. A wonderful sight.
Troutski-
Good on your girlfriend.
That's the kind of thing that Cheuvront guy did along the central corridor here on PHX, only on a much larger scale.
A huge flock of sand hill cranes just flew over our farm with a whooping crane in the midst. A wonderful sight.
i'll bet.
that can make your day.
Gindy: wow...
You see an occasional great blue heron up here; always takes my breath away
And isolation from others is a defining feature of a cult.
Absolutely.
A huge flock of sand hill cranes just flew over our farm with a whooping crane in the midst. A wonderful sight.
That sort of thing makes me feel helpless helpless helpless...
So up here at 41 degrees north, the days are getting short, and although we've been lucky with sunshine this week, this time of year is usually pretty overcast & gloomy. And that's always weighed on me in the past. Now, with events as they are, I need to fortify my psyche to get through the long dark winter.
Has anyone had any experience using light boxes for SAD? Recommendations?
So, now the plan is to imprison us in ghettos in the desert.
now the plan is to imprison us in ghettos in the desert.
Ghettos linked by IslamoFascist SUPERTRAINS!
Desert Rat-
Hey dude! How's it in your area of The Valley? Nice cool sunny morning here.
Has anyone had any experience using light boxes for SAD? Recommendations?
we moved south.
I drive a Honda van. Great car; highly recommended should you need one.
Bought it when I had to ferry three kids and wife all the time. Now, it's unusual to have more than two or three passengers. I could probably get by easily with a small sporty wagon-type. But the thing's a Honda; has 115K miles on it, fully paid for, just broken in...
sand cranes are not seagulls!
Ya, she's a lot smarter than me. I'm just a lot better at picking out mates than she is.
Assholeyness is one thing, 'Thuglican assholeyness is another.
May the 'Thuglicans become the Whigs of the 21st Century. Selah
but the aging parent thing is a bitch, friends. few of us will escape it one way or another, and then it will be our own turn.
stoat
stoat, you have my first-hand understanding of your situation.
Make sure to take care of yourself as all this goes down - and especially during and after the inevitable end. (Almost a year after my mom died...and only now am I beginning to see my own future start to emerge. And that's with professional help.)
sand cranes are not seagulls!
so, if they don't return to you when you let 'em go, you can go track 'em down?
It doesn't really matter in the long run - some of the kids will sneak
out and have sex with non-fundie brown people and this group like all
others will fade into irrelevancy.
One can only hope so.
People here could generally be more sensible in their choice of auto. Driving alone in a Hummer 30 miles one-way to work five days a week is like having a second mortgage.
I think that's one reason why the Central Ave corridor is seeing development of mixed-use condoplexes, but these tend to be a little too upscale/expensive for your average Phoenician.
But if you can take the train to work, maybe a $2,200 monthly mortgage is doable.
Hey, kids.
You're not troll-feeding, are you?
sand cranes are not seagulls!
[Veronica Cartwright in Witches of Eastwick]
a year is about right for getting it all together after a parent's death.
the first month is a little like ping pong.
I still think alot about my dad when I run. He lived the benefits of exercise.
had a small flock of gnatcatchers mewing in the orange tree yesterday. fascinating and wonderful.
Hey Atrios,
That's Mesa, not Phoenix. Look at the fucking maps at valleymetro.org.
THERE IS NO LIGHTRAIL. There is a single line being built between Phoenix and Tempe/Mesa. THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR EXPANSION LINES ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY.
The stations in the poor areas of town are more than a mile apart. No one in the poor areas of town will be walking to the stations to get to non-existent grocery stores.
No one along Washington Ave, that poor area where the stations are 1 mile apart are further will be building condos or apartments or anything. Why? Because the stations are too far apart to walk in 110 degree weather.
Look at Google Maps. Phoenix is enormous. The sprawl is enormous. There are no plans to serve any of this area apart from that one line.
The money for that line could have been spent for shaded bus stops, or god-forbid bus stops with cooling misters. The line serves students and lawyers traveling from ASU to the downtown campus and courts. That's it.
Learn about and you'll find out the top down planning for this ignored the citizens. It's not the lightrail our wetdreams are made of.
Nothing harder than aging parents. Reminds everyone stuck in the situation of the importance of the support, the help with mechanics, the shared sense of community so few of us enjoy. And of the vicissitudes of the American health care system.
"You see an occasional great blue heron up here; always takes my breath away"
There's a roost of them about a mile from our farm. They fish in our pond and when we take walks in the forest we scare them up out of the creek bed. We also have Green Herons who breed about 50 feet from my front door. They put out 4 fledglings per year and train them to hunt at our pond. We are very spoiled when it comes to wildlife or both furred and feathered varieties.
whereabouts, gindy?
stoat, you have my first-hand understanding of your situation.
roadmaster, i've found that to be the most helpful thing in going
through the experience... talking to others who've been through the
whole range of feelings that come with it.
only now am I beginning to see my own future start to emerge.
yes.
thanks.
You're not troll-feeding, are you?
Molly Ivors
Last time I nibbled on one, it left a gritty, bitter aftertaste.
Never again. Lesson learned.
Afternoon, Moonbats! It's gorgeous day here. My tufted titmouse is still following me around chatting while I do yard work. I guess I need to find out what they eat and start feeding him if he's going to be a regular visitor.
Hey, kids.
You're not troll-feeding, are you?
Aw, geez, Ma, we never get to have ANY fun!
You're not troll-feeding, are you?
no thugs in our house, are there dear?
Hiya, Hecate!
My tufted titmouse is still following me around chatting while I do yard work. I guess I need to find out what they eat and start feeding him if he's going to be a regular visitor.
i know they like black sunflower seeds.
History shows again and again that intelligence and wise behavior are at best only distant relatives.
No, history shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man.
GODZILLA!
My tufted titmouse is still following me around chatting while I do yard work. I guess I need to find out what they eat and start feeding him if he's going to be a regular visitor.
That is SO cool! He likes you.
I'm heading outside on this beautiful day, soon enough. Just trying to decide whether to make muffins before I go.
Molly!
Thanks, mogwai; I'll try those.
Hi, Vicki Muffins are always a good idea.
I'm not trolling feeding, and I scroll past those who do, okay Mol?
johnathon livingston sand crane?
You're not troll-feeding, are you?
is bait considered food?
thanks.
stoat
Always willing to offer my $.02 (inflation-adjusted to $.13).
Seriously, though - just a couple things that I wish I had done:
1) Keep a diary of your visits. What kind of mood is she in? How is the staff treating her? Does she have bruises, aches? Is she tired? Wired? Note the names of the staff you've talked with.
2) Make sure she stays as physically active as possible. DO NOT ACCEPT her staying on the couch or in a chair for hours on-end.
You crazy kids...
Okay, Vicki gets a cookie.
One more small area and I'm done painting. Yay!
I guess I need to find out what they eat and start feeding him if he's going to be a regular visitor.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
Niger thistle seeds and sunflower seeds make many species very happy.
Molly
May I have an update on the princess room?
BBL. Things to do, Netflix DVD to get in the mail, etc etc etc.
all this sand hill crane talk reminds me that i got to reread Sand County Almanac
hi, hecate.
i showed up at work at my usual nine a.m. on saturday only to discover that one of the 'last minute schedule changes' my boss off-handedly mentioned was that i'm working from 2-10.
i treated the morning as 'found time' and put it to good use... so unlike me!
- - -
btw, i was looking at sales figures for the couple of weeks and was impressed not so much by the dollars as by the fact that in the week beginning last friday and ending thanksgiving day, we sold ten thousand bottles of wine at our shop.
we sold ten thousand bottles of wine at our shop.
Good grief! I know you aren't crazy about the new space, but that's good, right?
"I guess I need to find out what they eat and start feeding him if he's going to be a regular visitor."
black oil sunflower seeds.
BIG time titmouse magnet. Don't be surprised if a whole family shows up for snacks!
all this sand hill crane talk reminds me that i got to reread Sand County Almanac
mogwa
Mr Hickey, our 8th grade biology teacher, read sections to us. Perhaps the thing I remember the most of the class. For that I am thankful.
ms f,
Well, just one more small area and a bookcase need to be painted purple. Most of the borders are up, and most of my stuff is out of there.
I found a cheap duvet cover at the Salvation Army that matches perfectly. I can see the end!
And then I will soak in a hot bath for an hour or more.
Neat-looking birds:
http://animals.about.com/b/2008/02/24/how-to-
identify-tufted-titmouse.htm
all excellent suggestions, roadmaster. taking notes is an excellent idea, in particular.
Another good bird ID site:
http://www.mbr-pwrc.usgs.gov/id/
...infocenter.html
May I have an update on the princess room?
Guess not. [drops head, shoulders sag]
but the aging parent thing is a bitch, friends. few of us will escape it one way or another, and then it will be our own turn.
stoat
stoat, you have my first-hand understanding of your situation.
Make sure to take care of yourself as all this goes down - and especially during and after the inevitable end. (Almost a year after my mom died...and only now am I beginning to see my own future start to emerge. And that's with professional help.)
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 12:42 pm
:sad:
My oldest sister and I were discussing this last year. We miss our parents terribly (they died in 92/93), but OTOH we see how friends/relatives/coworkers are dealing with aging parents, we are grateful that we don't have go through that anymore.
OK, I'm going to try the sunflower seeds; I'm going to have to buy a squirrel-proof feader, though, or the several families of squirrels we've got will consume several tons of sunflower seeds and leave none for my new friend.
will post pics when done.
I know you aren't crazy about the new space, but that's good, right?
it is... not dramatically more than previous years, but a significant increase in a crappy economy.
although i dislike being off the beaten path, outside the traffic flow, there's definitely an upside during the holidays when people really ARE shopping specifically for wine. they can move around freely and take all the time they want without the pressure of people trying to get past with their carts.
in these things, too, i am adjusting. incrementally.
about the fact that the custom-made shelves will not accommodate a simple riesling bottle, however, there is nothing to be done. 
Has anyone seen JohnJS since the other night when he posted that his mom had passed away?
I'm going to have to buy a squirrel-proof feader
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
squirrel proof!
that's a good one!
Buckeye,
I understand. I miss my dad, too. He died 1/26/07, a month shy of his 73rd birthday.
I especially miss his smart ass comments when the family gets together.
don't know Phoenix and have no idea if the new light rail project there makes much sense
Air conditioning and a bar car and it would have more business than it could handle.
Now I think I know who stoat is.
Hi, stoat.
squirrel proof!
that's a good one!
"Puny humans! BOW BEFORE US!!!" - The Squirrels
'm going to have to buy a squirrel-proof feader
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
squirrel proof!
that's a good one!
My father died about a year before my child was born. I'm sure he would have been delighted to have been a grandparent. The very thought saddens me. He was a good man.
We miss our parents terribly (they died in 92/93), but OTOH we see how
friends/relatives/coworkers are dealing with aging parents, we are
grateful that we don't have go through that anymore.
it's tough, and it's life however it happens, isn't it buckeye?
squirrels are all powerful.
they gave hecate the slanties.
Haloscan hates me.
Who was it who used to post the great squirrel pictures here from time to time?
Mr Hickey, our 8th grade biology teacher, read sections to us.
Not a good name if you are teaching the Sex Ed class.
I miss Mother Ivors every single day. She would have loved Rosie.
The comments to that article are funny. One guy says it's immoral to invest in transit infrastructure and then allow development along it.
Hi, stoat.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore |
don't know Phoenix and have no idea if the new light rail project there makes much sense
Air conditioning and a bar car and it would have more business than it could handle.
George Johnston
The trains, made in Japan, are air-conditioned and have bike racks. But it's strictly BYOB.
Maybe stoat has a bottle or two leftover...
I miss the squirrels, too!
plantsman: well, that'd be a rare thing in American history. The railroads were built, largely, on the basis of huge land grants and military logistics and post office contracts...
Now I think I know who stoat is.
hi, vicki. i'm glad.
i decided to change the nym and the gravatar a couple of months back, sort of as an experiment, and i've decided i like it. it fits.
not trying to be secretive about it, and certainly not maintaining multiple identities. just a change.
kinda like AndyMN, my eschacon roomie, maybe.
will post pics when done.
Molly Ivors |
Thanks Molly. My girls are with their grandparents this weekend and I think I need a little bit of mother/daughter interaction. I'll just use yours if you don't mind.
the young women daughters visiting for two more days or so, and I am reminded yet again about the late hours and the carousing. all in good fun, but where do they get the energy and I certainly dont miss the waiting up; or more actually the waking up and wondering--Not home yet?
that ended at 330 am for the elder, while the younger just sleeps at her BFs.
Speaking of aging parents and the inevitable, do make sure that your parents have a good, thorough will drawn up by a competent attorney. Especially if there are siblings with issues between them. My mother's will wasn't, and two of my siblings still aren't speaking nearly twenty years later. And it's not like there was really any estate to fight over -- a ten-year-old car worth $750 was the catalyst.
Get the folks to write up that will. The sorrow saved is worth the awkwardness of talking about it.
Well, yeah; and we see here in the Portland area how rail transit infrastructure prompts denser commercial and residential development along the lines.
I'm not trolling feeding, and I scroll past those who do, okay Mol?
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 12:50 pm |
She lied to you Molly.
Google it, fuckwit. No one's going to waste a finger clicking and pasting for you.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 12:00 pm | #
Hecate,
That was Central Scrutinizer.
What did we ever do before Google and Flickr?
http://flickr.com/photos/9682172...29@N00/
27140369
btw, i was looking at sales figures for the couple of weeks and was impressed not so much by the dollars as by the fact that in the week beginning last friday and ending thanksgiving day, we sold ten thousand bottles of wine at our shop.
stoat | 11.29.08 - 12:53 pm | #
WOW. Retail, right? That's some serious sales.
I'm going to have to buy a squirrel-proof feader
Years ago, my parents had a large bird feeder mounted on a pole that had a greased pole with an inverted metal cone that made it impossible for the squirrels to climb up. Yet despite these precautions, the feeder would be periodically emptied. We did not know how until one day we watched a squirrel leap from an impossibly distant branch straight at the house shaped feeder at the top of the pole. It hit the feeder so violently that it was thrown to the ground and the feeder bounced wildly for what seemd like minutes. The squirrel picked itself up, climbed the tree and tried again. On its 4th attempt, it managed to hang on and in a matter of minutes, had emptied the entire feeder on the ground.
Several squirrels than joined their friend and ate all of the seed on the ground. We had no way of proving it but we think the squirrels took turns jumping.
I'll just use yours if you don't mind.
Of course! And you can even stay tidy!
in the week beginning last friday and ending thanksgiving day, we sold ten thousand bottles of wine at our shop.
stoat
That's 70,000 bottles in dog-wine.
Oh, stoat, never meant to imply you were name changing...I know how that goes.
I "outted" myself long ago on the Internets, so I figured I'd just keep the name. The &hearts: makes it interesting, because it's hard to Google, so it keeps my identity protected from coworkers, etc.
However, those who have been here a long time know my by my real name, and I'm fine with that, too.
Watching a documentary on Joseph Paul Franklin, the guy who wounded Larry Flynt.
Racist pig extraordinaire.
He must be REAL unhappy since the Election.
We had no way of proving it but we think the squirrels took turns jumping.
The only thing that will save squirrelkind is cooperation.
...the young women daughters visiting for two more days or so
my daughters (twenty and almost seventeen) spent the night here on tuesday after going to a show at the birchmere with me.
i figured that the recycling truck and the leaf-vacuuming truck, moments apart on wednesday morning, right under their windows, would roust them from sleep at a decent hour.
i was naive.
The trains, made in Japan, are air-conditioned and have bike racks. But it's strictly BYOB.
Maybe stoat has a bottle or two leftover...
shrimplate
Bike racks are a great idea! Add wi-fi and laptop outlets and foot massagers as well.
OKay, off to finish painting. Woohoo!
♥
In trying times, people drink.
That's in part why Prohibition ended when it did. Those who couldn't afford speakeasies demanded to be numbed.
'm going to have to buy a squirrel-proof feader
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
squirrel proof!
True enough, but we've had pretty good luck inverting an aluminum pie tin over the hanger of our bird feeders. we also suspend the feeders far enough away from any vertical surfaces to prevent the squirrels from leaping.
There's a colony of various love-birds in a few of the palms one street over. We see them every day when we walk ze dogz.
Mostly pink-faced, but some black-faced ones too. They are the sweetest little things.
People have been drinking, smoking, snorting and like that for as long as there have been people, pretty much wehrever and whenever they could.
The easiest way to keep squirrels out of the feeders is to feed them something else.
Old dried corn on the cob is good, as are walnuts in the shell.
Our feeders are not raided since I bribe our squirrels so well they don't need to raid.
LIME RICKEY! If you're going to repost Christian homeschooling blog posts here, you got to give us the links! Some of us are scooping up these links to keep track of the raging idiocy. THANKS!
Silly Atriots. It's plum crazy to think that transportation could affect development. Yah gotta build a city bee-FORE yah gets transportation. Like when Ben Franklin and Paul Bunion and Babe The Big Blue Ox all got together an dug the Delaware River so ships and lost whales could get to Wilmington and Philly and Trenton.
Oh, stoat, never meant to imply you were name changing...I know how that goes.
late last night, helena handbasket seemed to think it was maybe some insider, clubby, exclusionary thing, but i think we got that straightened out between us.
Get the folks to write up that will. The sorrow saved is worth the awkwardness of talking about it.
strawhat, grieving Felix | 11.29.08 - 1:08 pm |
When my granddad dad, he had no funeral plans, and grandma was left unprepared. And then her oldest son died 6 weeks later.
After that, mom and dad prepared wills and funeral plans and adjusted as time went by. So when they died, my oldest sister didn't really have to worry about anything (Dad had finished up the tape of music to be played at his memorial service 3 days before he died, so even that was taken care of).
I feel guilty that I don't have to worry about nursing homes, etc, for Mom and Dad. But mpt that much, after all I don't have them anymore and I hate that.
Oh. My bad. My apologies to Lime Rickey. A bit more searching found these guys holding forth in Freeperland. That's just too easy to catch.
We had no way of proving it but we think the squirrels took turns jumping
We have squirrels who are too fat to jump.
My next door neighbor is an animal lover like you wouldn't believe. He feeds the birds, he feeds the squirrels.
Two years ago he took in two young cats who had been living on the streets for months. Couldn't stand to see them out there in the winter.
One was too far gone. healthwise. He had to be put down. The other one - well, Nipper's teeth were a mess. Rich spent a few hundred bucks getting the bad ones all pulled.
Nipper is in the big picture window, catching the rays, all the time. Has put on quite a few pounds and looks happy and healthy.
Metro-land.
I love how the commenter at that linked page talks about 'public funds' being used to increase real estate values. As if the phenom of house prices being elevated by the presence of a particular school or other public-funded project doesn't count.
The easiest way to keep squirrels out of the feeders is to feed them something else.
Old dried corn on the cob is good, as are walnuts in the shell.
Our feeders are not raided since I bribe our squirrels so well they don't need to raid.
Gindy
Was thinking the same thing.
Peanuts, though, are favored by both crows and - surprisingly - blue jays.
I remember the jays at my folks place many years ago - put out the peanuts and 30 SECONDS LATER they would swoop in - pick up one, drop it; pick another up - and if it was better than the first, fly away with it for a yummy meal.
What a fucking bunch of bullshit. Barbara Starr was darking intoning on CNN in the first hours, "This has all the hallmarks of Al Queda."
The Mumbai gunmen were singling out and killing Westerners, first reports claimed. Horseshit.
think it was maybe some insider, clubby, exclusionary thing
I refuse to belong to an insider, clubby, exclusionary thing that would have me as a member.
shrimplate:
I am SO saving that picture.
stoat
We have daughters the same age? (almost seventeen) I didn't realize.
Vicki
I wasn't laughing at you, but I went through the same thing. It seems I was asking where someone, who had been here all along, was.
When my granddad dad, he had no funeral plans,
My wife and kids know that I want a greenfield burial.
It's pretty ridiculous to view real estate prices as ideally separate from government action. Every last town in the country deals with developers and town zoners working together, for berrer or worse.
I checked out hotels in the DC area just past the middle of January. They seem to be full up for some reason.
We have squirrels who are too fat to jump.
That might be the only answer for the squirrel problem.
What a fucking bunch of bullshit. Barbara Starr was darking intoning on CNN in the first hours, "This has all the hallmarks of Al Queda."
Why not include James Bond's nemesis 'SPECTRE' as a possibility.
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My wife and kids know that I want a greenfield burial.
Shared Humanity
My kids know my wish. Take the organs, skin, eyes, etc....anything usable.
Then cremate what's left.
mirele & stoat
both new but know all about this blog?
It's pretty ridiculous to view real estate prices as ideally separate from government action. Every last town in the country deals with developers and town zoners working together, for berrer or worse.
ProfWombat
The VA loan guarantees to WWII and Korea vets were one of the major driving forces behind suburban sprawl.
Loans were initially good only for new construction - not rehabilitation or existing properties.
Zonin Schmonin
Just remember, it rains all the time in Orygun.
What a fucking bunch of bullshit. Barbara Starr was darking intoning on CNN in the first hours, "This has all the hallmarks of Al Queda."
What happened to the narrative that George Bush was keeping us safe and no more attacks since he fumbled the last one or the one before that one?
I am watching an old Doris Day movie. I never realized she was hot. I just like her.
That's some serious sales.
about $115k.
it's some serious lifting, too. you don't
just handle the stuff once... typically you unload it off the truck
onto pallets or dollies, stack it in the backroom (on the opposite side
of the store
), sometimes multiple times, then stock the shelves and stacked case
displays throughout the week, as needed. same goddamn heavy boxes,
over and over.
champagne boxes are the worst, of course.
i do not maintain a gym membership.
yes...10:10 here and not a sound from the elder. the younger--will show later.
they and my wife ganged up on the house to re-arrange the living room, dining room, wife's studio and their old bedroom.
even got me working on 5-year-old piles of papers and biz notes.
Doris Day was the biggest pop-singer of her day.
I am watching an old Doris Day movie. I never realized she was hot. I just like her.
ms fahrenheit/stop the wars
Which movie?
I remember the jays at my folks place many years ago - put out the peanuts and 30 SECONDS LATER they would swoop in - pick up one, drop it; pick another up - and if it was better than the first, fly away with it for a yummy meal.
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 1:17 pm
The cardinals and blue jays would dive bomb the squirrels to get them off the feeders.
DO NOT DISTURB. It just ended.
Every last town in the country deals with developers and town zoners working together, for berrer or worse.
ProfWombat | 1
Here's the worse.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/2...ks.html?_r=1&
hp
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We have daughters the same age? (almost seventeen) I didn't realize.
yep. one's a senior in h.s., the other's a junior in college.
"home" is with mom, in md. except for when the elder's in school, of course.
I love cardinals. Blue Jays are nasty.
Pacific Coast Crested Jays are quite mean and pushy, too.
What happened to the narrative that George Bush was keeping us safe and no more attacks since he fumbled the last one or the one before that one?
George Johnston
Apparently the terrorist 'flypaper' is losing its stickyness.
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Every last town in the country deals with developers and town zoners working together, for better or worse.
Typical local get rich quick scheme:
1. Buy land at distressed prices
2. Get it rezoned for free (or for $100 campaign contributions)
3. Profit!
"they searched out westerners" will prolly turn out to be as true as the story about Iraqi's turning off incubators in Kuwait hospitals, or WMDs.
fear mongering at its most obvious.
I better get going. The argument I'm in over at the tv station web site about abortion is getting ridiculous. Now I'm a baby killer...
I love cardinals. Blue Jays are nasty.
Shared Humanity
Yeah, they are. Beautiful birds, but nasty.
Doris Day was the biggest pop-singer of her day.
plantsman
Yes, the Super Colossal Doris Day had people shaking in their boots back in the day
Now I'm a baby killer...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
That's all that crowd has left.
The main problem with American auto companies is that during the good times of the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, they made overly generous settlements with the United Auto workers (UAW) on wages, pensions, and health benefits.
/Gary Becker "Utterly Stupid"
On the weekends, Sharon Lawrence wants me to save Polar Bears, Laurie Metcalf wants me to save children, Sarah McLachlan wants me to save dogs and cats. It's a lot.
What happened to the narrative that George Bush was keeping us safe
Just don't travel to Mumbai, that's all.
You could join me and be a baby killer, plantsman.
Yes, the Super Colossal Doris Day had people shaking in their boots back in the day
bill | 11.29.08 - 1:27 pm | #
I thought she was a wholesome all-American girl, but she did seem quite sexy.
My blankets turned out fine with only a just a little foxing. It doesn't bother me and I'm not using chemicals on it.
I love cardinals. Blue Jays are nasty.
Shared Humanity |
The common house finch, a prolific pest, has one of the best songs (in Spring) of any North American bird.
They were a west coast bird that was illegally imported to NYC pet stores as 'Chinese finches' in the early 20th century. They've since expanded their territory from NY almost to the eastern front ranges of the Rockies.
Great singers but real villians at the feeder.
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No, I'm already a godless homosexual -- that'll have to be enough.
"I am watching an old Doris Day movie. I never realized she was hot."
Oh? I never noticed.
Zonin Schmonin
Just remember, it rains all the time in Orygun.
ErinPDX | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 1:21 pm
I be you tell that to all the Californians.
should I say this picture is from somewhere else, since with all the sunshine it can't possibly be Oregon?
http://travel.webshots.com/
photo...096501088hPruYO
Tufted Titmous Feeding:
seeds and insects
bulk of its diet is made up of seeds like oak and beech mast, pine seeds and fruit like blueberry, blackberry, mulberry, bayberry, Virginia creeper, and hackberry.
Although they glean prey from the barks of trees, they also forage on the ground for food. In winter, the Titmice cache the seeds and acorns they collect. They also visit bird feeders where they enjoy an abundance of sunflower seeds.
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Ours love the sunflower seeds and spend a lot of time in the cedars along with black-capped chickadees. They may be gnoshing on the cedar berries and/or whatever insects they can still find in the bark this time of year.
I didn't know the 1990s were good times.
I thought that was Big Dawg's Long Dark Totalitarian Night.
And the 1970s were good times?
Wasn't that the era of Malaise?
I really need to study history more...
Here's the worse.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/2.....ks.html?_r=1&
hp
.
It's just me again!
If and when I get diagnosed with a terminal illness, I hope to be strong enough to take a baseball bat to the gonads of these selfish assholes who assert ownership gives one unlimited rights.
I'll tell them my ownership of the baseball bat gives me unlimited rights to end their procreative days.
Pacific Coast Crested Jays are quite mean and pushy, too.
They practically stalk my cats
No, I'm already a godless homosexual -- that'll have to be enough.
plantsman
NOT that there's anything WRONG with that.
it's enormously helpful that my parents lived at a time when normal
working class people with some foresight and good fortune (union and
government employees) could successfully make financial arrangements
for their care once they were unable to take care of themselves.
hard to see my being able to provide the same benefit to my children.
and haloscan is a idiot. i better go to work.
it's going to be a long, rather boring evening. you probably haven't seen the last of me.
latest GM negs with UAW set hourly wages at $14 for some categories of new hires; that is half the current rate for same category of workers.
you cant repeat that often enough.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne...5Df4&
refer=news
What Gary Becker doesn't know about how the economy works is practically everything.
NTodd got a lot of great shots of Barack's big rally on the waterfront in Portland -- it was a gorgeous day.
Phaenopepla.
Beautiful crested birds that look sort of like a cardinal, but black. I'd never seen one before moving to Phoenix. One used to follow me around when I jogged around Papago Park.
Buckeye .... | 11.29.08 - 1:30 pm | #
That's a great shot of the Russian River, there.
i'm not a debbie reynolds fan, but she was hilarious in that albert brooks movie ("mother"?)
Your taxpayer dollars at work...
Me, the baby killer, I am officially heading outside, or I will get nothing done this weekend.
The plan appears to be working.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...ml?
hpid=topnews
Beautiful crested birds that look sort of like a cardinal, but black. I'd never seen one before moving to Phoenix. One used to follow me around when I jogged around Papago Park.
shrimplate
That IS a beautiful bird.
We have no children; we'll have to plan ahead to take care of ourselves come that time. And since spouse's dad lived to 94 (and smoked like a fiend for maybe 80 of those years), we do indeed have to plan.
Long-term care insurance is on our list. That shit's expensive, but long-term care in a decent place can be financially devastating.
And the 1970s were good times?
That is when Dick Cheney's boss Richard Nixon instituted wage and price controls to save the free market.
As I recall, the wage controls worked a lot better than the price controls.
Never realized house finches were not native. Love their song.
Downturn Drives Military Rolls Up
War, Election Shifts Are Also Factors
Some of the largest investment firms on Wall Street are gone. The country's auto industry is on the verge of collapse. Banks are shedding jobs. But in these doom-and-gloom times, there is someone who's hiring: your local military recruiter.
Goddess forbid.
Debbie Reynolds always seemed to have kind of a sense of humor about herself -- but she's also Carrie Fisher's mother.
THe UAW and GM made contracts that were to their mutual benefit. The main problem, seems to me, was that they assumed things would always be wonderful. So, when business got bad--here, because of management and engineering weaknesses against competition, not because of unions--the contracts were too expensive.
This was evidence of management failure, rather than union failure. Productivity actually increased. Becker is telling the story with a one-sided spin. Posner, amazingly, is better.
The more people get paid, the more they can spend on homes, cars, education, and other economical stuff.
Concentrating wealth amongst a handful of selfish fuckheads is not good far an economy.
back in a few
Concentrating wealth amongst a handful of selfish fuckheads is not good far an economy.
shrimplate
Class warfare!
But in these doom-and-gloom times, there is someone who's hiring: your local military recruiter.
And of course there's always temping at Wal-Mart!
yes, the uaw got a piece of the pie but the management built cars that eventually dont match market conditions and they lobbied heavily to be allowed to get regs and laws that further advantaged low mileage vehicles and exemptions that made certain types of passenger vehicles fit the safety and mileage categories reserved for "working trucks."
It was ugly and dingell was a key player in it, as well as the stupidity and greed of the auto industry management in the US.
Here's the worse.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/2.....ks.html?_r=1&
hp
.
It's just me again!
If and when I get diagnosed with a terminal illness, I hope to be strong enough to take a baseball bat to the gonads of these selfish assholes who assert ownership gives one unlimited rights.
I recently had an awful experience. I live in a small town with one of the finest residential historic districts in the Middle Atlantic states. (My house dates to the 1790s) The houses range from mid 18th Century colonial through early 20th Centery 'colonial revival' and everything in between. A number are on the Nat'l Register for architectural excellence.
As a member of the local historic preservation commission I've worked very hard the last year to expand the residential district and incorporate a commercial historic district as well. I've made numerous presentations to town boards and councils.
A few weeks ago a local church that owned a wonderful Carpenter Gothic ca. 1870 tore the house down. The story circulating is when they heard about the potential of an expanded district (which would have included this house) they acted pre-emptively and razed the house - it disappeared in 2 days.
Just great and praise Jesus.
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And of course there's always temping at Wal-Mart!
Hired!
Yeah, I hear they have an opening...
Class warfare has been used against the middle, lower, and even professional classes for too long now.
Time for payback. The rich have nothing to worry about. They'll still have more money than god.
One of the things about Phoenix is that home prices in the central core are still too expensive for teachers, policemen, secretaries, and such. If they were a little better paid, the city would, I dunno, come alive?
A simple request, show us the bodies. Process the dna. Don't fulminate that this is part of the global war on terrorism. Personally, I think this is a high caste versus low caste matter.
not trying to be secretive about it, and certainly not maintaining multiple identities.
We certainly wouldn't want to run afoul of Nancy Drew - Internet Detective!
Gots to go to the store.
Turkey enchiladas today, and I'll use the leftover sweet potatos to stuff raviolis. The recent rains have really plumped up the rosemary bush, so I'll use a little of that for a white sauce.
I think I'll layer the leftover apple crisp into parfait glasses with vanilla frozen yogurt.
A few weeks ago a local church that owned a wonderful Carpenter Gothic ca. 1870 tore the house down. The story circulating is when they heard about the potential of an expanded district (which would have included this house) they acted pre-emptively and razed the house - it disappeared in 2 days.
Just great and praise Jesus.
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It's just me again!
The Great Jesuit University (sic), Marquette, did a similar act - moving bulldozers in ON A SUNDAY to level a historic brick and stone mansion built by one of Milwaukee's founding families:
http://www2.preservationnation.o...news/
020102.htm
We certainly wouldn't want to run afoul of Nancy Drew - Internet Detective!
But I like Nancy Drew! Behave.
"But I like Nancy Drew!"
Nancy Drew is hot!
I will occasionally post a single post under a different name. I never name steal.
The Great Jesuit University (sic), Marquette, did a similar act - moving bulldozers in ON A SUNDAY to level a historic brick and stone mansion built by one of Milwaukee's founding families:
http://www2.preservationnation.o...news/ 020102.htm
Roadmaster, Milwaukee Office | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 1:48 pm | #
My brother and his wife went to Marquette. I wonder if they've heard about this.
great news from Dave Pollard:
''' What it means is the end of politics, a giving up on massive, centralized institutions, political and corporate, that never did anything for us, but only for themselves. What it means is an end to bringing more children into the world. What it means is a moratorium on all "development", to at least make the descent for our descendents less hellish. Monbiot refers to my fellow blogger Sharon Astyk's anti-technophoria assertion that it means a 50% reduction in consumption within five years. Even though that will precipitate an economic depression of unprecedented proportions, and require us to stop spending taxpayer money we don't have (another disgraceful legacy we are leaving for our grandchildren to fix up) to bail out companies that are causing and financing climate change.
What it means, mostly, is an admission of utter failure, a confession to our descendants and our ancestors and all-life-on-Earth that we have desolated and destroyed this planet and undone in two short centuries what it took the Earth billions of years to create. A period of protracted grieving and reconciliation with those other generations and cultures and creatures we have caused and are causing and will continue inexorably to cause, suffering. Saying we are sorry. Doing what we can, and what we must.
This is, now, the only thing we still have enough time for. '''
http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2...1/
28.html#a2292
I feel like I should go write an award winning web app... but I would rather just hang out.
prosecute Wal-Mart:
yup.
(from nyt)
Detective Lt. Michael Fleming, who is in charge of the investigation for the Nassau police, said the store lacked adequate security. He called the scene “utter chaos” and said the “crowd was out of control.” As for those who had run over the victim, criminal charges were possible, the lieutenant said. “I’ve heard other people call this an accident, but it is not,” he said. “Certainly it was a foreseeable act.”
Perhaps schools should train our kids to ask us, whenever we eat meat, "why are you destroying my future?"
how we "solved" the squirrel problem:
squirrel feeders. we put squirrel feeders - corn cobs on spikes attached to a wheel so they rotated around (giving the critters food and something to do) under the bird feeder.
worked great until we forgot to replace the corn one time. then the little varmints climbed the "squirrel proof" pole and chewed THROUGH the redwood bird feeder (rendering it useless) and cleaned it out.
The Great Jesuit University (sic), Marquette, did a similar act - moving bulldozers in ON A SUNDAY to level a historic brick and stone mansion built by one of Milwaukee's founding families:
They tried it on one of the great music venues in Boston a few years back. It was due to get historic site status, they sent in a wrecking crew to try to trash the place. I seem to recall they were stopped somehow, but not till after their goons made a real mess.
Catholic hierarchy are pretty ruthless at times, though not all of them. Seems to have gotten worse since JPII and The Rat were running the church into the ground.
prosecute Wal-Mart:
yup.
(from nyt)
So far they're looking at prosecuting individual shoppers, which they certainly should. Personally, I'd add a boot in the ass for people who blithely went about their shopping and got pissy when the store closed.
But their damned well better be some executive heads rolling for this.
http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2...1/ 28.html#a2292
Mike | 11.29.08 - 1:52 pm | #
Once read an article about the fact that we had enough coal in Western Wyoming, Montana and Canada to satisfy our energy needs for 400 years. The article failed to point out that after 400 years we would have a hole that would rival the Hudson Bay in size.
The article failed to point out that after 400 years we would have a hole that would rival the Hudson Bay in size.
Shared Humanity | 11.29.08 - 1:56 pm | #
perfect. that will give us somewhere to bury the nuke waste.
"There" damned well...okay, maybe I need a nap.
Class warfare has been used against the middle, lower, and even professional classes for too long now.
Time for payback. The rich have nothing to worry about. They'll still have more money than god.
The rich should take a long look at the Walmart shopping frenzy death.They were people looking to save a few hundred bucks.What if they were looking for revenge?
walmart had hours to see the problem brewing.
corporate sets up the oppty for misbehavior and it is at least willing negligence.
The article failed to point out that after 400 years we would have a hole that would rival the Hudson Bay in size.
You sure are slutty.
perfect. that will give us somewhere to bury the nuke waste AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Friendly amendment.
Man, I sure love sluts.
oldest daughter is up....
and being pretty friendly for someone on 6 hours sleep.
What it means, mostly, is an admission of utter failure, a confession to our descendants and our ancestors and all-life-on-Earth that we have desolated and destroyed this planet and undone in two short centuries what it took the Earth billions of years to create. A period of protracted grieving and reconciliation with those other generations and cultures and creatures we have caused and are causing and will continue inexorably to cause, suffering. Saying we are sorry. Doing what we can, and what we must.
This is, now, the only thing we still have enough time for.
It would be a kind of global truth and reconciliation project, one that involves us all. It would let us admit, at last, that this culture has made us ill, fearful, stressed, violent. That we don't know what we're doing or how to undo the damage and start to make the world a better place. That our disconnection from the truth -- what we daren't watch or admit is going on in prisons, refugee camps, abusive households, despots' and corporatists' boardrooms, toxic waste dumps, torture centres, child labour camps, factory farms, back alleys, strip mines, locked cages and cells, and millions of other places of misery and pain and despair -- has made us mad, hateful, ruinous. That our disconnection from each other and from all-life-on-Earth has cost us our souls. That we are all prisoners of this well-intentioned madhouse we have constructed.
And then, with such truth and admission and collective grieving, we can, at least, be free.
Will we do that? I think we will. But not yet. We are not yet ready to admit defeat, or what we have done. Those of us who are too far ahead can start now, to recognize and acknowledge this truth and this sorrow and this failure and this grief.
And when the rest of the world is ready, we can help them.
i got nothin'. never did.
may i re-enter even tho what i just said made no sense?
Attribution, please.
Boy, are the blogs slow this weekend or what.
Anyone out there? Hello. Hello.
wapost's ceci connolly does a story on health care costs and change. who is the first quote after a couple of docs and medical experts?
none other than........
newt gingrich.
he is also the ONLY politician quoted--other than a paraphrase--and then the only other non-doc is a exec from a health insurance lobbying organization.
geor3ge, shorn
elder son's concert choir gets to go to NY in March. Doing Agnus Dei for upcoming concert and son was asked to play piano acc on it...that's why i was sightreading last night...to see if he'll be able to get ready in 3 wks. Perhaps.
That was from Mike's link above.
ErinPDX | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 2:12 pm | #
Great! Keep me posted: I might try to swing over to see it.
The rich should take a long look at the Walmart shopping frenzy death.They were people looking to save a few hundred bucks.What if they were looking for revenge?
nottin bob
The rich don't care about all the people dying in Iraq on both sides.
Why should they care about a WalMart employee?
Mike | 11.29.08 - 1:52 pm | #
Nice link Mike. thought I would post again.
http://blogs.salon.com/0002007/2...1/
28.html#a2292
haloscan sucks donkey dicks
Erin, you have mail
The whole world is hung over
here's some from the Monbiot article referenced by Pollard:
''' This approach is challenged by the American thinker Sharon Astyk. In an interesting new essay, she points out that replacing the world's energy infrastructure involves "an enormous front-load of fossil fuels", which are required to manufacture wind turbines, electric cars, new grid connections, insulation and all the rest(13). This could push us past the climate tipping point. Instead, she proposes, we must ask people "to make short term, radical sacrifices", cutting our energy consumption by 50%, with little technological assistance, in five years. There are two problems: the first is that all previous attempts show that relying on voluntary abstinence does not work. The second is that a 10% annual cut in energy consumption while the infrastructure remains mostly unchanged means a 10% annual cut in total consumption: a deeper depression than the modern world has ever experienced. No political system - even an absolute monarchy - could survive an economic collapse on this scale. '''
http://www.commondreams.org/view...ew/2008/11/25-
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Slow afternoon here...
i got nothin'. never did.
beep
wrong
thanks sh
Slow afternoon here...
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
Not a dang thing wrong with that.
Good day to multi-task, which in my case includes planning Advent services, organizing the music room and blissing out to Benjamin Britten/Peter Pears.
It's a good afternoon for a nap...
Hello, hello, hello. Can anyone here me.
Something's wrong Fred.
ql, back at you
Kidnap.
You are very welcome.
georg3e will do and thanks! We can't afford to go so it would be neat to have an atriot there. but of course no biggie if you can't
Zoning Changes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=F...feature=related
'Elderfunk'
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everyone has taken the supertrain to phoenix, where they will all get of at teh misted walmart stop where they will purchase top quality cheap chinese goods at bargain basement prices.
sh
XD
"Everyone Loves Raymond" is a really vile show, when you observe the dysfunctional relationship between Ray and Debra. Really shitty people to each other.
I wonder if Wal-Mart had taken out a life insurance policy on the trampled employee.
I wonder how many laptops amd plasma TV's they actually had at the Wal-Mart of Death?
Anyone know?
Good point.
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What sort of mark-down does Wal-Mart give for the items with blood stains? [/Brit Hume
52 Days Until Inauguration
"Everyone Loves Raymond" is a really vile show, when you observe the dysfunctional relationship between Ray and Debra. Really shitty people to each other.
Vicki, Who ♥ Al Gore
The guys come off as weaselly and the women come off like ballbreakers.
And I cannot ABIDE Patricia Heaton.
Tread de Afternoon above.
I wonder if Wal-Mart had taken out a life insurance policy on the trampled employee.
leibniz leibkins ♘☮
I had posed that question earlier.
I wouldn't put anything past those leeches.
I wouldn't buy any beef at a Wal-Mart for a while.
What sort of mark-down does Wal-Mart give for the items with blood stains? [/Brit Hume
bo | 11.29.08 - 2:43 pm | #
Please tell me this is not a real quote.
The employee was a temp from an agency, so wal-mart didn't have him insured.
Had a friend that played the accordion. One day when he was shopping, he forgot to lock the back door of his station wagon, with the accordion laying in plain site.
When he walked out of the store he saw that the back door of the car was ajar.
Running up the the car he discovered what he feared.
yep, there were 3 more accordions in there.
What sort of mark-down does Wal-Mart give for the items with blood stains? [/Brit Hume
bo | 11.29.08 - 2:43 pm | #
Depends on whether the blood stains are from Chinese prison labor, regular employees who don't have health insurance, or trampled temps.
What sort of mark-down does Wal-Mart give for the items with blood stains? [/Brit Hume
bo
Please tell me this is not a real quote.
Shared Humanity
Brit Hume is a vile excuse for a human being.
It wouldn't surprise me.
Buckeye .... | 11.29.08 - 1:30 pm | #
That's a great shot of the Russian River, there.
ErinPDX | Homepage | 11.29.08 - 1:32 pm |
That was a beautiful day.
I've got to get my oldest sister out there, she'd like it. Perhaps when my nephew graduates from school in Seattle, she and i can come out a couple of days early and amtrack on down and do some sightseeing.
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Ginormous suburbs & exurbs with no mass transit are better. So much safer
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Phoenix is a pretty messed up place in a lot of ways. No offense, Phoenixers, but you know your town is doomed.
Anyone interested in the phenomenon of how communities build up around streetcars (as opposed to how streetcars interact with pre-built cities) should read the book Streetcar Suburbs by Sam Bass Warner.
I volunteered in Tempe/Phoenix during the Kerry campaign, and it's... not a very nice place to visit, and I wouldn't want to live there. It's the ultimate in suburban sprawl/Disney's vision southwestern style. And it's a desert environment and everyone's got a swimming pool.
Seriously, while Vegas makes me more ill, it's one of those cities that makes me truly wonder about human obliviousness and selfishness. It's a frickin' desert, folks.
But, that's not your point. Maybe light rail will work. There's not a huge city center (although my perspective on urban is NYC, Chicago, Boston), and when I say suburban sprawl, remember that there are tons of strip malls with huge parking lots. And lots of huge 6-lane thoroughfares (granted, it seemed mostly to be a convenient grid system for main roads, at least) so perhaps easy to get light rail up and running.
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