I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Who is David Kay?
Why he's Kyser Soze of course.
Captured enemy documents? Reminds me of VietNam.
Wow, who'd a thunk that the WMDs would be made out of paper? I guess that the UN inspectors just were too dumb to know what to look for. Plans were the thing - yep, we go to war because Saddam had ideas.
david kay is going to prove that saddam had wmd in the 80's and early nineties. it will still not justify the administrations dire warnings of an immenent threat. no where on the left of in the liberal press has there been any mention of where he got those weapons or the responce of bush the elder when given proof that he was gassing his own people. perhaps this too much for the public at large to swallow. let them chew on the reality that they were lied to by an incompetent drunk, and the same "faulty" interpretation of intelligence is what allowed 9-11 to occure. welcome to the new plausible deniability.
"'I think we will have a substantial body of evidence before six months,' Kay told NBC."
Dammit, we weren't promised "a substantial body of evidence." We were told there were WEAPONS! Not a "program," not "potential," but WEAPONS (in specific, scary quantities)!
These weapons were supposed to be an IMMINENT THREAT! So imminent as to preclude us waiting the "months, not years" that Blix, the UN, and all of our (former) allies were pleading with us to wait so as to allow UNMOVIC to complete their mission!
Remember? We couldn't wait that long! Remember? And why, dammit?!
American GIs DIED 'cause we couldn't wait!
I hope Mr. Kay's "substantial body of evidence" is enough for the familes of the people who died, but didn't have to.
Who is David Kay?
He be the plantee.
If there is proof that Iraq had WMD and didn't destroy them, then where are they? Many of us opposed the war on the grounds that said WMD, if they actually existed, would be almost impossible to contain in the chaos of an invasion. If they definitely existed, then where are they now? In the hands of OBL/AQ? In the hands of somebody that will sell or give them to OBL/AQ? If they had them and they aren't there now, then we are in greater danger now than before the invasion.
Piffle!
That's directed at David Kay.
If it's going to take six months to accumulate their 'substantial body of evidence,' then there can't be much smoke coming out of this gun.
But what we are going to start hearing now is about these documents. 'What do you mean there is no evidence? We've found the documents! We've found the motherlode! It's a treasure trove!'
I wonder if David Kay is going to download some instructions off the internet on how to make a nuclear device and start waving them around hysterically? I'll bet the administration is too stupid to even try to have them translated into Iraqi.
If Iraq hasn't calmed down in six months, it's not going to matter what David Kay waves around. I don't think the troops are going to be happy that they were sent there because of a bunch of faded pieces of paper.
Dem leaders need to go on the offensive now -- they need to start asking valid questions about Kay's credibility and they need to keep asking question about Kay's six month process of building a paper trail in Iraq. They need to discredit this bunk before Bush tries to sell it to the public.
pie - that is the one true thing, really. It doesn't matter if the admin. unleashes Mary Matalin or David Kay or resurrects King David. Americans keep dying in Iraq, and people will want questions answered. I know I do. It's all beyond tragic.
What do you suppose the chances are that George Galloway's name turns up somewhere in those papers?
sfbayview - from your mouth to God's ear. And the democrats, one hopes.
sfbayview, I totally agree with you. The Dems need to get going here. They've got the truth on their side. Sell it!
What the heck is the matter with Tom Brokaw? After writing about the consequences and sacrifices that war demands, you'd think he'd "get it"!
Yes, Tena, tragic. Why don't more people see that?
pie - according to MSNBC, another American soldier has been killed, while guarding a bank in Baghdad.
Imagine seven and a half miles of documents. Whoop whoop. A week ago, we were told there were eight miles of documents found in southern Iraq telling of plans for an organized resistance. Phooey. We have had almost the whole deck of cards and have apparently learned nothing of consequence on WMDs. Phooey.
Casualties since May 1:
American soldiers 87
British soldiers 10
Note: American forces have risen to 148,000
British forces have been cut from 10,000 to 5,000
Phooey, "...and apparently learned nothing of consequence on WMDs." Not to mention nothing of consequence on the whereabouts of Saddam, his sons, or all the money.
American casualties 88
"What the heck is the matter with Tom Brokaw?"
Brokaw's material is written by GE's public relations department and has been at least since 1992.
And it's 1, 2, 3, what are we fighting for?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam...
The issue has moved beyond wmd's as far as the Dem candidates are concerned. At least it should be. They can't get caught up in the 'where are the weapons' debates. What they need to do is pound away on the lies, deception and distortion that encompasses everything this administration does. If all David Kay finds is paper indicating research than he has found nothing. You can't stop people from thinking about things, as much as Bush would like to think he can. All the research in the world can't do anything for you if you can't obtain the materials to build the stuff. Everyone knows Hussein wanted these weapons. No secret there. What needs to be pointed out is that this war was not forced on us. It was part of a long thought out strategy that had nothing to do with 9/11 or the war on terror. It has everything to do with exerting US influence in the Middle East.
"General's Wife Says Gripes Aid Enemy"
That is always the problem with a democracy.
CNN
No matter how many lying sacks of shit ShrubCo parades in front of the cameras, the evidence shows we went to war to save the world from fucking documents. David Kay's not going to save ShrubCo's sorry AWOL chickenhawk asses.
From the Rational Enquirer archives" (June '03):
Mr. Kay is perhaps less well known for his role in corrupting and de-legitimizing the UNSCOM inspection teams, by sprinkling his with spies, which was later exposed.
If it's going to take six months to accumulate their 'substantial body of evidence,' then there can't be much smoke coming out of this gun.
They're using smokeless powder now...
Our guys are dying. We're having very little success weakening querrilla attacks, and the Iraqis have the advantage- it's their country, they have weaponry, and they have time to plan. Every new day increases their resolve and their ability to do harm.
And we can't get any powerful ally to help us. This whole situation sucks, big time.
the evidence shows we went to war to save the world from fucking documents
But Saddam could have given us all paper cuts in 45 minutes. And then maybe launched Scuds with lemon juice and salt. Ooh, I hate it when that happens.
pie - oh, but we have "bring it on!"
Well, "bring it on" backfired, didn't it?
NTodd, lemon juice in a paper cut?!!
Owwwwwwwwww!
NTodd - LOL
WWF event I'd like to see:
David Kay vs. Scott Ritter
NTodd - or scuds with jalapenos. Now that will make you notice a paper cut.
WWF event I'd like to see:
David Kay vs. Scott Ritter
Oh, wouldn't that be great? Ritter would clean his clock!!!!
I think we should ask one of the networks to stage a debate. I mean, let's put it all out there. Afraid?
The basic trick Bushco have employed all along is to blur the time line. Yes, Saddam had large stockpiles of chemical and biological poisons -- in the 80s. Yes, whathisname had a widget that belonged to a prototype centrifuge buried under a rose bush in his yard -- since 1991. And I'm sure it takes even a thousand bureaucrats with typewriters a very long time indeed to produce seven miles of papers.
The death of a thousand paper cuts.
I know this is off topic, but it's too good not to post:
"Little Kaylee, who is now working with a counselor to conquer her fear, attends role-playing therapy sessions twice a week in which she uses a dragon puppet to bite the head off an Ann Coulter puppet."
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/d...ion/
6204918.htm
The basic trick Bushco have employed all along is to blur the time line.
Has anyone done an actual timeline, with references to credible sources, that can be copied en masse and dropped from helicopters into the American people?
pie - I love it. Can we do it?
onto...or maybe into is better.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/2.../20MILI.html?
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July 20, 2003
U.S. Attacked Iraqi Defenses Starting in 2002
By MICHAEL R. GORDON
American air war commanders carried out a comprehensive plan to disrupt Iraq's military command and control system before the Iraq war, according to an internal briefing on the conflict by the senior allied air war commander.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/2.../20MILI.html?
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"Called Southern Focus, the plan called for attacks on the network of fiber-optic cable that Saddam Hussein's government used to transmit military communications, as well as airstrikes on key command centers, radars and other key military assets."
So Kay finds WMD Documents -- watch for a WMD paper cut pal... you'll need a king size band-aid dude.
BUT please tell us where is the 25,000 liters of anthrax- enough doses to kill several million people.
And the more than 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin - enough to subject millions of people to death by respiratory failure.
Not to mention the 500 tons of sarin, mustard, and VX nerve agent!
YOU know, all the stuff Bush told us Saddam had in Iraq--not merely Saddam wish list but the actual WMD products themselves and NOT the "program" was minus the actually product. THAT isn't what Bush said in his SOTU speech...
Sen. Carl Levin is on top again:
Levin Blasts Administration
The Senate Armed Services Committee's top Democrat says the issue "isn't just about 16 words in a speech."
Michigan Sen. Carl Levin says including a statement in President Bush's State of the Union speech about Iraq trying to get uranium was "not an inadvertent mistake." He says it was negotiated by Bush adminstration officials -- and was highly misleading.
Levin kept up the Democratic attack on the uranium issue in his party's weekly radio address.
Levin says the question is whether the administration made a conscious decision "to create a false impression" of the imminent threat Iraq posed to the United States.
He says the whole issue could cause future problems, if allies and the U.S. public have questions about the validity of U.S. intelligence.
Yeah, not to mention the fact that Bush lied the US troops into guerrilla warfare all for WMD documents...cause paper-cuts don't kill people.
What assurances are there that the Bushies will even read the final report? Especially if they don't believe in it.
Lying decisions base on Bush's campaign contributor's wish list to kill people though... huh
Important, I think the US had been bombing Iraq pretty steadily from 1991 until the start of Iraq II.
Bushco made damn sure that Iraq's military forces were disarmed and demoralized before the war. They didn't think about the possibility of guerrilla warfare, however.
oops that should be "wish list DO kill people though"
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/2.../20WEAP.html?
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Summary: Solid intelligence data are old and the newer ones are sketchy, but what the heck, let's go to Iraq anyway!
The point is that Iraq was contained before the war and no threat to us. Eventually the regime would have been destroyed. Iraq was not North Korea
From the Times article:
The American air campaign had a vulnerability that the Iraqis failed to exploit: a four-mile-long line of fuel trucks outside one Persian Gulf base. They were in a region in which Al Qaeda was believed to operate but they were never attacked.
Had to get in that AQ reference. Love the wording, "was believed." But, lo and behold, no attacks. No Al Qaeda.
And Tommy Franks retired, refusing all other job offers.
Important - I agree with you.
The crime is getting Kay on board a nightly news show and not challenging him with, "We'll have proof in six months? What the fuck? You mean we didn't have proof before we stuck Miss Libery's tit into this sandy wringer? Your damned boss said over and over he had proof. Now that we're paying four billion a month for this choice piece of Hell you're saying it'll take you six months more? And what's this 'programs' shit? The Iraqi knew how to make chemical and biological weapons. They weren't required to give themselves amnesia--just not make more. Did the nuclear team actually have any fissile material? Because my high school shop class could make a uranium bomb if you scored a critical mass of U235, but I wouldn't get scared until they had it."
Kay's out there to bag the True Believers, the ones who want the Blue Pill real bad. He's shovelling memes at Limbaugh and the like. A real journalist would cut him off at the knees.
Dana Milbank has covered the "weapons programs" deal in the Post and I would expect it to turn up again. For your records, Bush himself put it serioulsy into play 6 May. Speeches before then were heavy on the "weapons" but truly lite on "programs."
I also dug Condi's comments about not reading the footnotes in the Intelligence reports. Not that doing so might be construed as part of her job, or might have been wise given that, you know, she was going to get people killed.
This is like Galileo and Cardinal Bellarmine. Seeing the phases of Venus with your own eyes doesn't cut it.
Don't forget, Leah, that Mike Allen ran a story on the Saturday before the War, in the Post (I've got some quotes and data somewhere) saying, yeah, there were military and othe reasons for war now, but senior GOP advisors also felt that it was necessary to get the war over so that the economic recovery would start in time for Bush to be re-elected.
Brian C.B. - I vaguely remember that. Doesn't look like the war is going to cooperate with them and finish itself in time.
Important - thanks for NYTimes article reference. Iraq offered no significant organized military challenge to America and Britain. We know that. The problems we are encountering now are on a completely different level.
The timing of the war seems to have centered on the approach of hot weather. We were going to war, the time would be when most advantageous but we were going to war.
NTodd - or scuds with jalapenos.
That would truly suck. And then if you accidentally rubbed the jalapenos, then touched your eye...yikes! If only they'd said that at the Bush-Blair Love-in, I'd be totally behind this war. But then Corzine would sponsor an amendment creating a commission to study the jalapeno intel, and Stevens would fight it tooth and nail. What did Bush know about the peppers, and when did he know it?
The basic trick Bushco have employed all along is to blur the time line.
Not just with the war. They do that with budget stuff, too. And then they choose clever names (Iraqi Freedom, Clear Skies) to even further muddy the waters (pun intended). If you make things confusing enough, nobody will know what the truth is, and thus the tracks are covered. I think they're counting on the laziness of the press and the lack of political involvement/curiousity of the American public. It's worked for the most part, but hopefully the worm is turning.
I am traitorous filth, and proud of it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/2.../20KORE.html?
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North Korea Hides New Nuclear Site
By DAVID E. SANGER and THOM SHANKER
Officials with access to the latest intelligence on North Korea say strong evidence has emerged that the country has built a second reprocessing unit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/2.../20KORE.html?
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American and Asian officials with access to the latest intelligence on North Korea say strong evidence has emerged in recent weeks that the country has built a second, secret plant for producing weapons-grade plutonium, complicating both the diplomatic strategy for ending the program and the military options if that diplomacy fails.
Clinton: I smoked, but I didn't inhale..
Bush: I got the intelligence, but I didn't read it...
Has anyone done an actual timeline, with references to credible sources, that can be copied en masse and dropped from helicopters into [sic] the American people?
No, but BushCo has spent millions on leaflets instructing Americans how to surrender their civil liberties. It's in easy to understand pictorial form: shows a person shredding a Constitution.
NTodd - or scuds with jalapenos.
Not to mention the wooden planes: The Balsa Salsas
Good Grief! - Good. I can quit worrying about Social Security and Medicare. Anyone know where I can get ahold a large of blue valium?
That whole line about not reading the footnotes (which appear like they may actually be more in the nature of an Appendix) is such a crock of shit. You're telling me that they are about to start the first unprovoked, preemptive war in American history and they don't read the single most important summary piece of intelligence in it's entirety because it's 90 pages long?
OK, I can believe that Bush didn't. His attention span is probably limited to about 9 bulleted items. But Condoleeza Rice? Former Stanford professor Condoleeza Rice? Give me a fucking break. Believe me, academics DO READ footnotes and annexes. And what, Bush and Rice had no other opportunity to be apprised that the State Department and the Energy Department thought that one of the most important facts regarding the Iraq threat was "highly dubious"? The don't talk to Colin Powell?
To quote the State Department: that is highly dubious.
Tena - Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.
Maybe we should look more closely at David Kay's credibility.
Is he Canadian? What's his sexual orientation?
Traitorous Filth --
In a faith-based administration it goes :
"I got the intelligence, but it didn't have the right impramatur so I didn't read it...
ABH - or, in a faith based administration, it goes: "I got the intelligence, but God told me not to bother to read it."
As Blair discovers, Karl Rove giveth and he taketh away:
http://news.independent.co.uk/wo...sp?
story=425893
The last line sums it up well, I think.
As far as the footnotes go, that could be quite a rant: "Condi, we got a guy a day coming back in a body bag, a 5 billion a month on the ticker, Iraq in near riot because it has no water or electricity, thousands of dead Arabs, legions of spent troops on a mission for which they aren't trained, troops that can't sleep because they keep waking up in pools of their own sweat, and there's no end in sight to this ordeal because we've pissed off the rest of the planet. But the President and you can't be expected to read the footnotes in the most important prewar intelligence assessment because it's too much trouble? You think, maybe, you're a teensy-weensy bit overpaid?"
I thought we were just going to "disarm" Iraq. How do you disarm a sheaf of documents?
WWF event I'd like to see:
David Kay vs. Scott Ritter
Oh, wouldn't that be great? Ritter would clean his clock!!!!
Or at least hit on his daughter...
Screw Ritter. A scumbag is a scumbag is a scumbag. Even if he's against this folly.
Brian--
That article you linked to was a killer.
Shit-- sounds just like Bush to destroy the ozone layer so we can have cheap strawberries and nice golf-courses.
Arrrrggggggghhhh!
I can only hope the US press picks up on this! Please!
Actually, I saw Ritter vs Kay on CNN one time during the war. It wasn't pretty. They seem to hate each other. So far, Ritter has been right though. Kay was convinced we'd find WMD once we took over.
Brian C.B.
Thanks. You're right. It's amazing how difficult it is to keep track of even the recent history of this administration. Partly, it's a function of how much awful stuff they manage to get going, or pretend to get going, that excessively target-rich environment. I'd almost forgotten about the balsa wood drones.
Blurring the time line is absolutely where they're going, and where the Pres is positively stuck.
Meanwhile, they ignore North Korea's positively ostentatious move to become a nuclear power, because they aren't wimps like Clinton, and tough guys don't talk. I'm going to be posting some stuff on N. Korea.
flanagon doe=billy virtue?
For Rice to call us to task for expecting her to fulfill the most basic requirements of her position is really a bit over the top. How arrogant, indolent, incompetent, and absurd can she become?
Cheryl --
Re 25,000 liters of anthrax-
And the more than 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin -
Not to mention the 500 tons of sarin, mustard, and VX nerve agent
Yes! PLEASE somebody in public refer to this! It's about a lot more than the nukes.
None of these claims have been borne out.
And without those items, there was *no imminent threat*, and therefore (as so many have been saying for so long) there was no justification for a "pre-emptive war".
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Isn't Kay one of the CIA operatives that the Clinton admin put in place as an inspector before they withdrew inspectors and started the illegal bombing?
may as well get the facts straight, these things don't spring up overnight.
Interesting. Weren't U.N. weapons inspectors projecting that it would take until right about now for them to do the job right? So, in a more enlightened world with a more enlightened administration, they would be reporting at this time the lack of WMD, and so goes the imminent threat, no thousands of lives lost, no U.S. invasion with the resulting mess that is now Iraq.
Shame we can't turn the clock back and do the right thing.
Isn't Kay one of the CIA operatives that the Clinton admin put in place as an inspector before they withdrew inspectors and started the illegal bombing?
What's your point? That David Kay has the facts?
Where's the freaking evidence?
There is none. Nada. Nothing.
David Kay is just another pawn in a very serious chess game.
John G - "How do you disarm a sheaf of documents?"
The same way you make war on "Terrorism."
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=c...&hl=en&ie=UTF-
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11. David Kay
Aka: Hell Hath No Fury Like an Inspector Scorned
Authorized bio: U.N. chief nuclear weapons inspector after Gulf War I, Potomac Institute for Policy Studies senior fellow.
Unauthorized bio: Accused of being a CIA spy after he found documents indicating Iraqi WMD programs in late 1991. He was subsequently locked in a bus and held hostage by Iraqi troops.
His take on war: Saddam needed to grant unfettered inspections. He didn't. Let's kick his ass.
Like a broken record: "The issue is not the insertion of the inspectors. The issue is the behavior of the Iraqi government."
Connections: Did the same work as Richard Butler and Scott Ritter.
Bomb Baghdad, not breweries: "Iraqi beer is terrific. It comes in liter-sized bottles."
"What's your point? That David Kay has the facts?"
Not at all. That he was an operative then and still is. His will is not his own.
David Kay is just another pawn in a very serious chess game.
Not at all. That he was an operative then and still is. His will is not his own.
Then I guess we're saying the same thing, aren't we?
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=c...&hl=en&ie=UTF-
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DAVID KAY
Not in Iraq, but : Defence intellectual, former IAEA inspector in Iraq, allegedly involved in intelligence work, former Vice President of SAIC Corporation that seems to employ exile-Iraqis working in post-Saddam Iraq, expert in counter-terrorism and homeland defence
Kay was IAEA weapons inspector in Iraq in the early 1990s. He is also former Vice President of SAIC and coordinator of SAIC's homeland security and counterterrorism initiatives. He left IAEA in 1992, some sources say he worked for US intelligence, however his boss at the time, Dr. Hans Blix siad he left because he had applied for the job of Secretary-General of the London-based Uranium Institute, a post which Mr. Kay had applied for well before September 1991, when his name attracted worldwide media attention in the Baghdad parking lot incident during the sixth IAEA inspection mission in Iraq," says Dr. Blix . Here is his own views on the spying issue .
Here is his most recent official bio . Again, we meet a defence intellectual, engaged in homeland security and anti-terrorism. A business man and who participates in numerous official U.S. government delegations and government and private advisory commissions, including the US Defence Science Board where issues such as terror, ballistic missile defence and psychological warfare is on the agenda.
He is critical of the post-Saddam efforts to find weapons of mass-destruction. "Unity of command is not present," said Kay, who is now a senior fellow at the nonprofit Potomac Institute for Policy Studies . "There's not even unity of effort. ... My impression is this has been a very low priority so far, and they've put very little effort into it." His views on issues of Iraqi WMD and the need to remove Saddam - also since he is a threat to the US itself - is as hawkish as anyone's as can judged from his statement to the Armed Services Committee of September 2002.
According to one source SAIC also run the "Voice of the New Iraq" , the radio station established on 15 April 2003 at Umm Qasr that is funded by the US government. Danna Harman has a telling report about this radio station and other media matters in the Christian Science Monitor ; she maintains that the station is operated by Robert Reilly. Who is he ?
We have not been able to find evidence that he has any particular qualifications or experience in post-war civilian reconstruction, socio-political and economic development, nation-building or reconciliation.
"Not at all. That he was an operative then and still is. His will is not his own.
Then I guess we're saying the same thing, aren't we?"
Yes, except I made a mistake and made him an inspector under Clinton. It was Bush 1.
I'm looking for damning evidence as to who exactly pulls his strings. Ties to the known group of fascist manipulators.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/
sto...,835856,00.html
"IAEA inspectors accused Unscom's staff of macho brashness. "I remember when they dismantled one facility, they had T-shirts printed with a boot on Saddam Hussein's head," one person familiar with the inspections recalls queasily.
There were rumours, energetically promulgated by Saddam, that senior Unscom inspectors under then-chief Richard Butler were really western spies. (The US government later admitted that the Unscom team had indeed included undercover intelligence officers working for Washington.) Unscom staff, for their part, accused IAEA inspectors of near-criminal timidity in the face of Iraqi challenges - an accusation that carries particular significance today because of the man who served until 1997 as director-general of the IAEA, one Hans Blix."
Fact search, pardon me if I seem to question that last statement, but I find it hard to take that seriously.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/
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Kay - who resigned from Unscom after falling out with Blix's IAEA over a stand-off with the Iraqis in the car park of a facility they were inspecting - puts it somewhat differently. "His view is of sovereign states, all of whom deserve equal respect. He does not make distinctions between good guys and bad guys, between people who have invaded countries versus those who have defended them," he says. "He's very concerned with perceived fairness. I've always said he'd be better as a bankruptcy lawyer. Or a divorce attorney." (Iraq would later claim that Kay was one of the spies on the inspections teams; Blix, despite their differences, has publicly declared this to be false.)
The statement I meant is the one in which you say you are searching for the fascist who pulls Kay's strings, just so it's clear.
"The statement I meant is the one in which you say you are searching for the fascist who pulls Kay's strings, just so it's clear."
You lost me there. If we assume that right wing groups lean toward fascism ( honestly where else can right wingers go, Liberals are said to lean toward Socialism) then any right wing group behind kay would have fascist tendencies.
Also if we look at those in power today they tend toward the Fascist road.
So, clearly, Kay would again be an agent of Fascism.
...for the fascist who pulls Kay's strings, just so it's clear.
Tena, that statement is, shall we say, over the top.
I mean the fascist pulling part!
Lie promoter is an rebub sicko.
rethug sicko, actually...
Fact search. BWAAHAHAHA!
Another oxymoron. Just like 'clear skies' and 'leave no child behind'.
pie - yes, they have the yips tonight.
..or is that 'leave no child's behind'???
Here's a variation of a song I used to sing to my kids well before they became teens:
"Saddam, had 'em,
A bunch of WMDs.
Saddam hid them
Down in his BVDs.
He'll wear them this Summer,
He'll wear them in the Fall,
But when he's on a date
He doesn't wear them at all.
Saddam, had 'em,
A bunch of WMDs."
Feel free to add a few verses.
Don't forget the long-range missiles. They were supposed to have missiles that dramatically exceeded the 90 mile range established by the UN. At least 20 SS-1 Scud types. They've not been found. And I won't even go into the drone thing.
Brian C.B. - you mean the balsa salsas, as someone called them back up thread?
Even if true it would mean that the Bush administration went to war without evidence of WMD. He still lied.
So since they have this new documentation they should be able to go straight to all the sites where these hugh stockpiles OF WMD are buried right?
"huge" not hugh.
The 'treasure trove' is a rubber band factory for all those balsa-wood WMD drones.
Anonymous - "The 'treasure trove' is a rubber band factory..."
LOL
"We're finding progress reports.... There are records, there are audiotapes of those interviews"
If he's already heard these tapes, and they've panned out, why would an administration desperate right now for a bit of vindication not relaese them?
Our country was in immediate danger and Bush could not wait another minute. "Bombs Away". OOPS!
Brokaw seems prematurely senile. What a humiliating end to a medicore career.
"former Vice President of SAIC Corporation"
That is his tie to the government. SAIC is, and was built as, a huge defense contractor.
I think an ex-SAIC VP has about as much credibility as a Brown and Root or an Air America ex-VP.
Why he's Kyser Soze of course.
Hah!
You know, I can see right where this whole David Kay/documents thing is going. Kay is going going to use his tresure trove of documents to prove without a doubt that Saddam had a weapons program... in 1991.
Chimpy will say "Toldja so!" Dennis Hastert will say its time to move on.
I don't think they can sell, but I bet a nickel they will try.
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