I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Which seems to show that the entire Republican Party is heavily tied into the defense industry, not just the Cabal and Poopy.
you haven't been paying attention to grover et al. the idea is to bankrupt the US economy so that the gubment will have to scale way, way back on domestic spending. wake up!
on the other hand, this is potent political ammo.
We all knew this . We were'nt crass enough to use it , we're the nice party.
Binge, borrow and bomb Republicans - it's who they are, it's what they do. And everything else they do is just political calculation o make it possible for them to do the above. Disgraceful.
Well, the Tax and Spend Democrat meme needs to die. It should be replaced by the Borrow and Spend Republican meme.
My father, an ardent supporter of Rebpulicans, has now lost just about every single reason to vote for the rascals. If he don't vote against Bush, I am going to have to disown him! 
...It should be replaced by the Borrow and Spend Republican meme.
I'd prefer "Spend and Default Republicans."
Too complicated, Dave. Everyone knows what binging, borrowing and even bombing are. Put "default" in there and it'll launch a thousand arguments and obscure the point. We don't want to preach to the choir with this, we want to convert people.
Where is this money going if not defense related? Most social programs are flat or cut, education, energy, environment, urban development, all the same. So where's it going?
loser - to Iraq. And to pay the bribes offered to Romania, Poland, et al, to join the Coalition of the "Willing to Take US Dollars."
Although, at the present value of the dollar, I think they were had.
Hoo boy. Well, it's something when the cracks in the orthodoxy show.
To quote a turkey talking, mean mouthed, democratic presidential candidate: "Republicans can't handle money".
Recently referred to this site, I'm conservative who likes to talk to and correspond with leftists, if only because it never ceases to amaze me that folks who "think" like that actually exist.
Bush is no conservative on spending issues. The education bill disaster, the farm bill debacle, and even CONSIDERING the largest entitlement increase in 40 years? It's almost enough to convince a good conservative that the Left might be right when it questions his smarts.
Don't forget the farm (welfare) bill. Wasn't that thing something like $100 billion?
Michael - your tone is very civil, and what you say about Bush is correct.
I wish you hadn't felt it necessary to throw in the gratuitous insult about the way we "think."
This is the problem with people who claim to be conservative. If they had a rational thought in their head they couldn’t support the current junta. Let’s face it, it isn’t conservative to support killing people in a foreign nation just because your bored and you think your daddy lost his seat because he didn’t kill enough of those guys. It isn’t conservative to run to the USSC in order to change the rules so you can win. It isn’t conservative to squander the nation’s income in a vote buying scheme. In other words, anyone who has ever supported the Bush cabal CAN’T HONESTLY CLAIM TO BE CONSERVATIVE. The Bushevicks were never conservatives, they were always radical anti-American plutocrats.
Michael, what has he ever said (in his words), that could possibly make you think he's smart?
In terms of sentences that have come out of his mouth that weren't prescripted, name five times in the past four years when he's actually sounded smart.
Hell, name three.
Cheap Labor Conservatives
Lorlynn - I sometimes wonder if the Cabal didn't awaken a sleeping monster when they convinced Bush that he has big balls so they could get their oil companies relocated to Iraq.
I have this picture of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Perle sitting around asking each other: "How in hell do we get him to shut up again?"
But perhaps we are being unfair to former President Clinton.
Ya think?
Bankrupt America Republicans
Deficit Republicans
Destroy Social Security Republicans
Invasion of privacy Republicans
No jobs Republicans
The rich get richer Republicans
There's just so much...where to begin?
>on the other hand, this is potent political ammo.
Is it? Is Joe Twelvepack going to understand it?
We can't beat Bush just by having a better position on the issues.
We have to tear Bush down, personally.
He has to be attacked and ridiculed constantly and incessently from all directions. That is the only way to reduce his stature in the eyes of Joe Twelvepack.
And this has to be done by every means, fair or foul (although Jeebus knows there are enough fair means to suffice, what with him being an idiotic drunken coked-up Guard-deserter with the worst record of any president ever).
>Cats sleeping with dogs
I think you mean "Cats and dogs living together... mass hysteria!"
Lying Republicans
Corporate lacky Republicans
Unjustified war Republicans
Destroy public education Republicans
Destroy the environment Republicans
No military benefits Republicans
Phony patriot Republicans
This is like a bomb going off over at Freeperville. The first page is a full out blasting of Bush, and while the Bushco faithful try to calm the masses on the second page, it has utterly dissolved into a troll fight.
Looks like the wheels are coming off of this baby. What a happy day.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...ws/956768/
posts
Phony family values Republicans
Stiff the needy Republicans
Stiff the first responders Republicans
Cover-up 9/11 Republicans
Constitution shredding Republicans
Extremist judges Republicans
The Credit-Card Conservatives
What Cato is pointing out is that no one is at the helm of the mis-administration. There is no coherent policy period.
Cato is far more intellectually honest than their peers. Of course they were too harsh on Clinton, but that's obvious.
They're no fans of the war in Iraq as well.
pixie,
Thanks for the update.
I had to stop going to freeperville.
I kept tring to sit on my head for days after every visit.
I still want to know what we're getting back from the Red States in return for subsidizing them.
And it always amuses me how much the so-called conservatives hate the Frankfurt School (of economics) and then makes sure to prove them right every time.
This reminds me of DeLay's remark from the College Republican shindig about how the Dem Presidential candidates wanted to "tax like Mondale, spend like Carter, and fight like McGovern." I've already blogged about the McGovern part, and now we've covered Carter, too.
CD,
We get Jeb in 08
Yeah, but look what we've gained by this fiscal policy!
...ummmm....
Never mind.
Now, now, children. No schadenfreude. Play nice.
"Credit-card Conservative"--that ties with "Cheap-Labor Conservative" for my current favorites.
Don't know if it will catch on, however, since Bushco tried to convince us after 9/11 that spending money to the point of insolvency was the act of a true patriotic Murrican. After all, it's the fault of us "consumers" if the economy isn't showing signs of a recovery, right? So whip out that plastic!
Nice to see that Bush follows his own advice, anyway.
(I also like renaming the Repugs' tax cuts for what they really are--program cuts.)
Not relevant but good news nevertheless...
"The Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, threatened last night to sue the Economist magazine over articles in its latest edition which accuse him of abuse of power to thwart justice and further his own business interests.
[...]
Mr Berlusconi is already suing the Economist over an article published two years ago that asserted he was unfit to govern Italy.
The Italian prime minister has since appeared in court to defend himself from allegations of bribing judges in the 80s. But the case was suspended after Italy's parliament, where Mr Berlusconi's allies have a solid majority, passed a law in June giving the prime minister immunity during his time in office.
http://media.guardian.co.uk/
pres...1011099,00.html
That's handy huh?
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this level of spending is absolutely neccessary from a political viewpoint. if bush had to actual cut programs to pay for his tax cuts, his policies would be far far less popular.
if bush had to actual cut programs to pay for his tax cuts, his policies would be far far less popular.
Eh? He is, though. Head Start and Medicaid for starters, if I'm not mistaken? There are many more. And most incredibly of all, Veterans Benefits! All sorts of cuts, from VA benefits to hazard pay.
To quote Tom Delay:
They don't represent anyone but themselves. Their sole purpose now is to win elections and to accumulate power for its own sake."
I think it's a pretty apt description of Bush Republicans.
I second (third?) credit-card conservative, and also like what someone from The Daily Kos site came up with "Red ink republican."
Now I have a nit to pick, by all means let's label Bush's fiscally wacked policies as "conservative". We should take every opportunity to drag this label through the mud in the same way that the wingers have abused the word "liberal". I'm tired of being nice or fair with these clowns. They don't deserve it.
There was an excellent piece on _Now_ tonight with Bill Moyers interviewing a man named Chuck Spinney, who has been busting Pentagon waste for years -- from the inside. Spinney seems to be an unbelievably intelligent man and got at many of what we here at Kos would consider the fundamental problems with our democracy right now. (He speaks not just of the Military-Industrial but of the Military-Industrial-Congressional complex to explain why those committees with oversight over the Pentagon wave the required audits every year.
The Now website already has background up, I don't know if the transcript is available yet, but if it is, it is _very_ much worth a read: http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/...cs/
spinney.html
Arrrgh! Sorry Atrios, the worst sin ...
"we here at _Atrios_"
yikes, that'll teach me to bounce back and forth ...
Add my vote:
"binge, borrow and bomb" and "credit card conservative" are both excellent tropes for the cause. Let's hear 'em again and again.
Amen, Another Bruce!
re: Anonymous at 1:17AM -
It's a tactic the Bush admin has employed since 1999: accuse your opponents of your own sin. It makes anyone levelling the charge (properly) back at them look silly and quarrelsome.
You may remember "fuzzy math" from the campaign, or, more recently, "class warfare." They've done it pretty steadily these past three years. I wish I'd kept track, it would be an interesting list.
the Left might be right when it questions his smarts.
Question?
There isn't a question anymore about Bush and his alleged smarts: he has none.
at 10:30 pm EST tonight, a military jet flew low and fast over my neighborhood in West Philadelphia, bearing south and banking off to the southwest. The house practically shook from the noise.
The last time I heard that noise was during a July 4 celebration in Boston, when a formation of F-16's flew low over Beacon Hill. Must have been 3000 feet or less, scared the living shit out of everybody.
We don't live near any flight paths and definitely never see any military craft around here. Can anyone else out there confirm?
Something must have been up. That guy was moving very low and very, very fast, and decided he didn't have time to steer around an urban center like Philadelphia..
Another series of Democratic campaign ads:
"If you're age 55 or under, you may want to consider what another 4 years of a loose-spending Bush administration and Republican Congress will cost you: loss of the social security and medicare benefits you've been paying for your entire working life, or an increase of 75% in the taxes your children will have to pay in order for you to collect the benefits you've already paid for. Will your $400 tax cut make up the difference? George W. Bush and Republicans: Can we really afford another 4 years?"
"If you're a veteran, you may want to consider what another 4 years of a fiscally irresponsible Bush adminstration and Republican Congress will cost you: the medical benefits you were promised in return for your service to your country. They've already made drastic reductions, and they are ready to cut even more. Will your $400 tax cut make up the difference? George W. Bush and Republicans: Can we really afford another 4 years?"
"If you're a member of the military or have a family member in the military, you may want to consider what another 4 years of red ink from the Bush administration and Republican Congress will cost you: cuts in hazardous duty pay, cuts in deployment pay, cuts in medical benefits, and housing maintenance. Will your $400 tax cut make up the difference? George W. Bush and the Republicans: Can we really afford another 4 years?"
But wait...there's more:
"If you're the parent of a school age child, you might want to consider what another 4 years of a fiscally irresponsible Bush administration and Republican Congress will cost you: cuts in Head Start programs, fewer teachers and increased classroom sizes, and less money for education from pre school through college. Will your $400 tax cut make up the difference? George W. Bush and the Republicans: Can we really afford another 4 years?"
I could go on..and on...but you get the point. Sure, Rush and the other GOP whores will scream bloody murder, but in order to refute it, they'll have to talk about what Bush and the Republicans have actually done - and it ain't pretty.
Bumper sticker:
"Stop the 3Bs...
Binge, Borrow & Bush"
Forget the bomb issue. Remember the Clinton war room sign in '92? "It's the economy stupid."
Bumber sticker:
NO MORE BUSH!
to sdf @1:31 am, if you are still there, and anyone else interested in more of Mr. Spinney's work, he edits a website; www.d-n-i.net. I recommend it for background and insight into the mindset of the true Pentagon reformers. Not the Rumsfeld "yes" men types at all. I hope there are more like Spinney in the Pentagon now that he is retired. He is a true patriot.
If you exclude Social Security revenue, the government is operating with a deficit that is one-third of outlays. With no roadmap for eliminating these deficits, our federal government is simply not a sustainable enterprise. But I doubt there is a design in this, rather simple ineptitude, reckless disregard for the future, and blind adherence to Republican dogmas.
eastiswest, thanks, I just checked back on and am going to look at Spinney's web page right now.
Bumper sticker:
"Bush's Tax Cut:
What Did YOU Get?"
jJennifer, why not email your ads to Dean and whoever? Candidates listen to this stuff. And they're excellent.
tax cut and red ink reptilicans.
Thank you, Anonymous, your quote of radical, self-serving, only cares for the repugnants rich is now the essence of my enlightenment on the truth about these neocons:
"To quote Tom Delay:
They don't represent anyone but themselves. Their sole purpose now is to win elections and to accumulate power for its own sake."
We shall not forget.. dems and other opposition, read and act accordingly.
Bush rants on about the Kurds -- whom his father cruelly abandoned to die at the hands of Saddam after Desert Storm -- and claims that Saddam "gassed his own people" even as we all know that Kurds are NOT Saddam's people and that Saddam views them much as Bush Jr. views Mexicans illegally crossing our borders.
I third "credit-card conservatives."
Though Demo Peter Defazio refers to the "Debt Tax." Nice reflex voter would like the ring of that. Debt Tax Republicans
Cats sleeping with dogs and whatnot.
I tried to warn you!
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