I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Condi is leading the pushback with another lie - those who oppose the occupation are racist.
So Atrios, why does AL Gore not rate some actual discussion for his fine speech today? I like E.A. plenty, and great abouty his book, but my god, Al stood up today and said what we have been harping for months and months someone needed to say, and he gets zero coverage practically, even here.
Why?
I've seen references to the speech on several blogs. You must mean unreported in the SCLM, right?
The media isn't interested in Al Gore. What archetypal character does he play in our collective psychodrama? He just doesn't, like, "fit" into any storyline that will glue eyeballs to the boob toob or the 'puter monitor. He's not running for president, or anything else, so he's not even a player in electoral politics, the bloodsport of 21st century America. And he's not involved in a juicy sex-and/or-murder situation, so, like, where's the hook?
Emperor Codpiece, now THAT'S a character!
I'm only half kidding.
jsaro,
too true! Al Gore is a complicated figure. What do you mean he gave up fighting for good?
In the simploworld of the media, he is a defeated figure, muching sour grapes in the corner, musing about might-have-beens.
To us, he is a valiant (more or less, although I think he should have fought in Florida until the last dog died) sort of flawed leader from a half-remembered good old days.
Too complicated, if you ask me. If it can't be explained in 5 seconds, good luck getting it on TV.
CNN Crossfire threw up a graphic about Gore's speech with a '[So What?]' underneath it.
The media are dismissing Gore's speech without even telling people what he said.
Let no one forget we Dems have a long road to the White House.
I suppose Alterman must confine himself to describing four of W's lies. To list them all would require a book of encyclopedic scope.
All Gore is confusing to me. Why couldn't he have had that much fire during the campaign? If he had went that route, he would have won.
Perhaps he has figured out, too late, that his handlers weren't that adept at handling at all.
OT: Speaking of confusion, what's IIRC? I see that everywhere, and I can't decipher it.
heavenhelpus
"Let no one forget we Dems have a long road to the White House."
Well,
if
Bill had kept the pants weasel in check, you would be there.
If
Gore run a better campaign, you would be there.
If
Gore had FOUGHT for the recount, you would be there.
If
Holy Joe, would have fought for ANYTHING, you might be there.
If
Gore had won his home state, you would be there.
yes, those scumbag Republicans did steal the election
BUT
Mainly PAPER TIGERS stood against them.
Oh and,
If
DEMOCRATIC politicians had stood together AGAINST BUSH from day one, instead of trying to see who could crawl the farthest up his ass
You may have had an easy win 2004.
ZZzzzzzzzzzzz...
Speech was a fine one and all, but Gore wore that red tie. What a loser! I hate that red tie! That's why I voted for Bush. No way would Bush wear that kind of tie! Bush doesn't even care what kind of tie he wears--or even if its tied with a half-Windsor or full-Windsor knot! That's because Bush is a folksy, down-to-earth kind of guy. The kind of guy you'd like to drink a brewski with. Not like that big fat red tie-wearing liar Gore.
And Gore's podium had a medium tone to it. Bush only stands behind dark-toned wood. It's because he's a REAL MAN.
That Al Gore is quite an attack dog. He went after Joe Lieberman pretty good.
Did Gore lie in his speech today?
For example, according to the just-released Congressional investigation, Saddam had nothing whatsoever to do with the attacks of Sept. 11.
No such finding was in the 9/11 report.
For example, according to the just-released Congressional investigation, Saddam had nothing whatsoever to do with the attacks of Sept. 11.
No such finding was in the 9/11 report.
Anonymous | 08.08.03 - 12:08 am |
Just where exactly does it say that Saddam had something to do with 9/11?
It doesn't, and I stand corrected.
It doesn't, and I stand corrected.
The 9/11 report does not make any statement regarding Iraq and 9/11, period. I guess you are trying to troll with the double post saying "I stand corrected" but it doesn't change the fact that Al Gore lied in his speech today.
Um, right. The report doesn't say anything about Iraq being connected to 9/11, which is why I said what I did. Sheesh.
Um, right. The report doesn't say anything about Iraq being connected to 9/11, which is why I said what I did. Sheesh.
President Gore is calling out the Resident on CSPAN!! Fucking Right On!
go to moveon.org to read the text, or cspan.org to watch the video.
OH MY GOD
Watch this video of President Gore, especially towards the end.
He's channeling Howard Dean y'all!
I'm shouting out my fucking window!
IMPEACH THE RESIDENT!
cspan is running the Gore video every couple of hours.
TUNE IN > TURN ON > GET W THE FUCK OUT!!
also check out the walter pincus piece at the penta post for a 16 word update....
Good column on the 9/11 report. I don’t understand why the families haven’t gone ballistic about this. I would want Rice’s ugly head on a platter NOW. that woman is beyond vile.
http://www.newsday.com/news/colu.../columnists/ny-
vpcoc073404676aug07,0,5748793.column?coll=ny-news-
columnists
U.S. Clamps Secrecy on Warnings Before 9/11
Marie Cocco
August 7, 2003
It's not just the Saudi secret that's being kept.
The committee managed, "inadvertently," it says, to get some contents of a key briefing Bush received in August 2001. It included "FBI judgments about patterns of activity consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks; as well as information acquired in May 2001 that indicated a group of Bin Ladin (sic) supporters was planning attacks in the United States with explosives." In an extraordinary footnote, the panel cites public statements by National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice that characterized the August briefing as general and having provided historical perspective on Osama bin Laden's methods of terror.
The lawmakers, though, were barred from interviewing Rice. They sought to "obtain a better understanding of the development of counterterrorism policy in the Bush administration before September 11, 2001." The panel was forced to submit written questions to a deputy.
Al Gore- A man of incredible integrity. Indeed why isn't Atrios giving Gore more top billing?
It was a great speech like Gore gave the nation when he conceded. He certainly didn't agree with anything Leiberman been saying but it was Gore that won the popular vote and not Lieberman that sold us.
Pushing for the an investigation too.
Joe is all done. Drop out now, Joe.
The gloves are coming off against this administration, I can feel it.
Stick it, Anonymous Coward. If you enjoy being lied to, then you're part of the problem and not the solution. Go back to freeperland while we clean up this mess.
Oh and another thing...
One thing the President could do to facilitate the restoration of checks and balances is to stop blocking reasonable efforts from the Congress to play its rightful role. For example, he could order his appointees to cooperate fully with the bipartisan National Commission on Terrorist Attacks, headed by former Republican Governor Tom Kean. And he should let them examine how the White House handled the warnings that are said to have been given to the President by the intelligence community.
Two years ago yesterday, for example, according to the Wall Street Journal, the President was apparently advised in specific language that Al Qaeda was going to hijack some airplanes to conduct a terrorist strike inside the U.S.---
--Along with other members of the previous administration, I certainly want the commission to have access to any and all documents sent to the White House while we were there that have any bearing on this issue. And President Bush should let the commission see the ones that he read too.---
---That's been the law ever since the Patriot Act was enacted. If we have to put up with such a broad and extreme invasion of our privacy rights in the name of terrorism prevention, surely he can find a way to let this National Commission know how he and his staff handled a highly specific warning of terrorism just 36 days before 9/11."
Depending on what Bush received in his intelligence briefings that he is hiding, Bush may well be criminally negligent.
And 5 Supreme Court Justices - who sit in judgement of the lives and deaths of other humans may well have kill more people by the single act of the most unconscionable ugly partisan court decision ever made in history of democracy.
Arnie: His father was a member of the Nazi party
George W. Bush: His grandfather established the family fortune bankrolling the Nazi regime. He kept the money.
Strange, but true.
Can't wait for the press to give this some airtime. It's irresistable.
From the wapo:
"In Crawford, Tex., political advisers to President Bush appeared flummoxed by the possible repercussions of the California saga. These aides dream of having a Republican in the statehouse for Bush's reelection race next year, but spokeswoman Claire Buchan said, "The president believes that this is an issue for the people of California to decide."
Nevertheless, senior aides said they have not ruled out the possibility that Bush will campaign for Schwarzenegger later in the brief race. And they added they would not be surprised if Bush's father, former president George H.W. Bush, campaigns for the movie star -- repaying the support the actor gave Bush in his 1988 and 1992 campaigns. The elder Bush gave Schwarzenegger one of his few government credentials by naming him chairman of the President's Council on Physical Fitness, and a senior aide said the father remains fond of Schwarzenegger."
He's channeling Howard Dean y'all!
But I thought Gore == Howard Dean? Same goofy grin, same pole in the backside, same pro-business platform, etc.
What was wrong with Ms. Rice's stance on the occupation?
To the SUPREME GORON supporters on this site that thought that fucking idiot had something new and substantial to add to the national debate, just how stupid are you people?
just how stupid are you people?
Apparently smarter than you, if you haven't yet figured out that Condi Rice is a hopeless, unrepentant lying whore.
If
Gore run a better campaign, you would be there.
Anyone who acknowledges this fact, while not simultaneously acknowledging that the media played a large part in undermining Gore's campaign, needs to head over to Bob Somerby for some book learnin'.
You haffta admit, it's pretty damn funny when some right-wing non-white Republican shill plays THE RACE CARD®.
Usually that's a sign that they're all out of ammo, and are throwing something-- ANYTHING-- over the rail in a last-ditch defense...
Coming up next week: Clarence "don't call me Slappy" Thomas calls fellow Supreme David Souter a racist when Souter asks if Thomas wants cream in his coffee.
Coming up next week: Clarence "don't call me Slappy" Thomas calls fellow Supreme David Souter a racist when Souter asks if Thomas wants cream in his coffee.
You can bet the farm that Clarence gets cream in his coffee, nightly.
Yes, the way Bush says one thing and does another is breathtaking. He knows how to talk. And people believe him. At least, they believed him until now.
Now, that Democrats are beginning to assert themselves and are showing how the Bush word and deed do not correspond, Bush is losing his popularity.
This is the significance of Gore's speech. This is the reason we have to point out these lies. Instead of knocking Gore, we should praise him.
Let's demonstrate to all what a liar Bush is. He was elected because of his "integrity." Does a person of integrity tell lies?
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