I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
He's lost weight. He looked great, like he is working out.
His speach was great, and funny.
Downside: He made the candidates look kinda small...
If you watched BOTH of the Clinton speeches, you might not feel so bad about the current bunch of candidates. Sure, today's Big Dog speech was butt-kickingly good, but his 1992 speech was worse than any of this year's candidates'.
I miss him. He can speak extemporaneously, you could tell that he was actually thinking about what he was going to say before he said it. He also spoke in complete sentences. It reminds me how far we have fallen, how low expectations have gotten. Damn that miserable failure Bush.
Big Dog! I certainly hope that candidates don't choose to distance themselves from him, especially during the primaries. The crowd, the base, loves him.
He can speak extemporaneously...
Unlike, sadly, someone else who's the current POTUS.
"There's a saying in Tennessee, well I know its in Texas, prolly Tennessee, that says, fool me once.... shame on... shame on you.... fool ma-.... can't get fooled again."
THAT is why we don't get Off-the-Cuff Dubya
My favorite part was when he said that we don't have to be mean to fight the GOP as they were to him. Then he invoked Truman, who is apparently channelling through more and more Dems this year (thank goodness) and said that all we have to do is tell the truth and they'll think it's hell. It's always a good line 
I hope I get to see him speak during the campaign.
Hi, remember when you had a president who could actually pronounce the words on the teleprompter, even when there was no teleprompter? And he knew what they meant? And didn't always say "The American People" every other sentence?
I certainly hope that candidates don't choose to distance themselves from him...
Dean, Graham, Mosley-Braun and Kucinich took the stage with the Big Dog. Kerry ducked out during intermission.
Gephardt was there earlier, but I missed him. Sharpton and Lieberman were no-shows.
OT, but I've never seen a real left-wing rant before. Why don't we get stuff like this in my paper?
http://www.sfgate.com/columnists...mnists/morford/
I don't think Gep showed. Something about, Drindrich, Frindrich, sumtin' like that.
Woo-Hoo give em Hell big dog
Great speech. Great ideas. I hope he continues to speak out until 2004.
Kudos to the candidates who were willing to stand on stage with Clinton and be seen with him. Shame on the cowards who fled the scene, or did not show up. Yes, I'm talking about you, John Kerry and John Edwards. Shame.
I don't think Gep showed. Something about, Drindrich, Frindrich, sumtin' like that.
Exeter | 09.13.03 - 7:55 pm | #
Gephart, Kerry & Edwards were there earlier shaking hands and hob nobing
with supporters. I was ashmed when they left early-They should have stood behind Clinton when he delivered the keynote address- the solidarity was not evident today. I hope that Lieberman has more to offer than backstabbing other candidates and now not showing up-insulting actually-Hope he drops out
as he generates a lot of negative energy. He sucks.
Yes, I'm talking about you, John Kerry and John Edwards. Shame.
Bad mistake. They should not distance themselves from a popular President whose eight years in office were relatively good years. Clinton's scandal pales in comparison to this total loser we have now.
Incompetence and war and massive corruption and cover-ups and hundreds of lies trump sex any day.
For those on or near the Central Coast of CA - Clinton will be speaking at the Panetta Institute on the CSUMB campus on Tuesday night, the 16th. It's gonna be shown on local cable access from 8:00 to 9:30 PDT.
He da man!
Great speech. He certainly has the gift. I really like how he kept saying that the repugs were taking programs away from people to give Bill Clinton a tax cut.
Thanks for reminding everybody that Clinton was not all that good in 1992 -- how easily our memories are distorted.
If showing up is 90% of success - Dean is winning -- nobody had to remind him to attend the NAACP convention, 40th anniversary of the March on WA, stump in CA against the recall and for DEMs, and stay for the complete show today.
did Kerry really say George Bush will "kick your ass"???
My first memory of Clinton's (& ( think most folks') was that unbearable speech he gave at the '88 convention where the only applause line was "In conclusion..." He actually went on Carson a week after to joke about what a lousy speech it was.
To be fair, he never fully outgrew his love of his own voice, but when he kept it under an hour or so, he was the best.
The current adminstration sure makes a hummer neath the desk in the oval office by a chubby intern look pretty tame.
He would destroy Bush in an election. Are you better off than you were four years ago?
He may not have been that progressive, enacted more Republican policies than the Republicans, and got caught with his hot dog in some else's bun. But mannnn was he smooth and smart.
bink: I hope you've got a chestful of medals, if you want to be calling Kerry a coward. Maybe you can give some to Dean. Yes, I'm talking about you, bink, in front of your computer terminal. You seem to want to call someone out. Well, you just did.
Clinton said the dems have a big field. He was grateful for those who were there on the stage and those who weren't.
It would have been nice to see them all there. It was refreshing to see an intelligent, optimistic, commonsense speech by a president.
Goddamn, I didn't realize how much I missed The Clenis.....
The Big Dog was so, so... competent! He spoke extemporaneously, and exceedingly well. He was clever and sharp.
The contrast between his confident delivery and Bush's bullshit, monotone, deer-in-the-headlights mumblings is staggering. Too bad nobody but us political junkies watches C-Span...
can anybody provide a video link to big dog'speech. no tv here.
Anonymous, try this:
http://www.c-span.org/watch/inde...30&
ShowVidDesc=
Democratic Party Steak Fry
thanks, pie.
Damn he looked good. He is much more relaxed now, what a great speech! Makes me feel good just to realize he is on our side.
after finding the Encyclopedia of American Scandal, on the cusp of Monica gate. A BJ was fuckin peanuts. hell, Teapot Dome is peanuts compared to the shit the press has allowded the simian to get a way with. and Thomas jeff? sally hemmings was an 8th black. she was probably whiter than Mariah Carey. And she was his former Wife's half-sister. Not exactly that psycologically surprising at all.
Check your facts if you think Kerry and Edwards were "dodging" Clinton. They likely had other engagements.
In Edwards' case, it's pretty funny to think he's running away from Clinton when Clinton is in fact advising Edwards.
Oh, well, what good are facts when you have a rant?
Clinton's speech was good, but frankly, he looked like shit. When I turned on the television, he scared me because he looked so bad. He looks dehydrated, and this diet has aged him at least ten years.
He was really with it. When he talked low, everybody was dead quiet & strained to hear, when he laughed, everybody laughed with him. He's only gotten better with age.
But a fanatical Dean watcher like myself would point out that the only specific policy compliment he paid any of the candidates was to Dean, though yes, he spoke well of everyone (but failed to mention Sharpton.) The Truman quote about giving them hell has been a regular Dean staple. And the line of reasoning that the next fountain of new technology jobs lie in the direction of clean energy has been another Dean line of reasoning.
Maybe someone who's been fanatically watching one of the other candidates might have a counter-argument, but by my count, that's three nods to Dean.
"And the line of reasoning that the next fountain of new technology jobs lie in the direction of clean energy has been another Dean line of reasoning."
That's a case of Dean adopting an idea long championed by Clinton (and that other grownup, Al Gore) rather than an example of Clinton adopting Dean's policy. We don't have to chose between the economy and the environment--cleaning up the environment leads to growth and jobs.
"I hope you've got a chestful of medals, if you want to be calling Kerry a coward. Maybe you can give some to Dean."
John Isbell - While it's true Kerry is not a coward in battle, that particular trait is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact is, whether Dean has a medal or not, he's been the most willing (and able) of these candidates to directly confront the Bush administration on its many failings.
Kerry's no-show was a bad move, and lashing out about vocabulary can't change that.
Big Dog! I certainly hope that candidates don't choose to distance themselves from him, especially during the primaries. The crowd, the base, loves him.
Vicki | 09.13.03 - 7:30 pm |
Yes!!!!!!!! Let him in. That was Gore's biggest mistake.
Very interesting what's happening in the nutty Golden State. Clinton's popping up all over the place, he's been advising Davis for several weeks and the no vote is getting legs. Recall is at a dead heat.
Clinton has the best political mind of our time. Period.
I attended Sen. Harkin's Steak Fry in Indianola today (my very first political campaign event ever! My maidenhead has been broken) and I have to say: Clinton's one hell of a public speaker. I very much enjoyed his speaking.
All the other candidates held up well; Carol Moseley Braun made a mild gaffe by referring to this upcoming election as happening in 19--er, 2004, but other than that, she was articulate and interesting. Dean really needs to learn how to bring his energy and demeanor to the TV screen; Edwards was calm, cool, and collected. Kerry was a hoot; he actually said "ass" when not referring to a donkey. Graham was pretty good, too.
Kucinich was enjoyable, I suppose. If you like that sort of thing.
Noticeably absent were Gephardt (who showed up and then left before speaking; isn't Iowa important to you?), Lieberman, and Sharpton.
It was a great event to cut my teeth on, even though it was a 6 hour drive each way from Chicago. It was nice to see the "Dean/Clark" tee-shirts, though as a manner for the Draft Clark booth, I of course think that the words are reversed!
It's SPEECH. SPEECH. Not "speach." Why do people so often misspell this word?
Generally speaking, Republicans are bullshit!!! Can't stand them. As far as the Sen. Harkin Steak Fry, President Clinton was awesome; did you see the response after the speech? I'd never seen anything like it...the people just mobbed him. Why? Because we love him. Does anyone doubt that if it weren't for that pesky constitutional amendment Bill Clinton would still be president today; or for that matter could run this year and win? That amendment is a pain in the ass!
Semper Fidelis.
Generally speaking, Republicans are bullshit!!! Can't stand them. As far as the Sen. Harkin Steak Fry, President Clinton was awesome; did you see the response after the speech? I'd never seen anything like it...the people just mobbed him. Why? Because we love him. Does anyone doubt that if it weren't for that pesky constitutional amendment Bill Clinton would still be president today; or for that matter could run this year and win? That amendment is a pain in the ass!
Semper Fidelis.
Couple of comments on the big dog's speech.
1. Positive. How could you not be smiling after that and feeling, 'Hey there is a way out of this.' Dean could learn from this and add a dose of hope and positivity to his angry schtick.
2. Notice how he pointed the tax cut issue back to himself. Double bonus for avoiding the us vs them class warfare trap and for demonstrating that democrats know what real sacrifice means.
3. Just as a little gotcha. While he was going down the list of the candidates and giving a little friendly commnet, what did he have for Joe Lieberman....'Joe Lieberman, I've known him since 1970.' Ouch.
Edwards made a point of saying he was tired of Democrats running away from Clinton, so he wasn't dodging. I'm sure Kerry was also otherwise engaged. Lieberman did not attend because he does not travel or campaign on the Sabbath. Interestingly, Clinton mentioned every candidate and said a good word about him or her except Sharpton. Don't know what it means, he was going off the cuff.
Susan Nunes --
What the hell are you talking about? Clinton looked fabulous; he's in better shape than he has ever been and his passion is stronger than ever.
Ironic bit: When Clinton was greeting the crowd after the speeches, there was a variety of music being played. One of the songs was George Strait's "Heartland." Strait is likethis with both 41 and 43 and I'm sure he won't appreciate the Democrats playing his music. (I don't think it's like Reagan's attempt to co-opt Springsteen's "Born in the USA," though. "Heartland was used because it made sense to play it in Iowa but Reagan actually tried to link his policies to the Boss.
The Clenis is back....and he's better than ever! I also had forgotten how much I miss him.
Man, I didn't miss him much before, but I sure do now. It's a good thing for the republicans that he was limited to two terms, I think he'd kick W's ass every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
The Dems need to make sure he keeps stumping.
I loved his quoting of Truman, and his line about Dems wanting to fall in love, while Repubs being willing to fall in line (so after a candidate is chosen, the Dems need to fall in line too). That thought needs to circulate widely.
susan nunes. she's sounding stupid again.
Came across the CSPAN thing without accompanying video for the first few moments.
Took my breath away to hear the voice, and the words ... and the Gore quote about Bush having the country upside down.
Deja vu ...
I cried a little. Once, America was really something special, and the President was really somebody worth looking up to.
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