HULK SMASH!!!
So the homophobic one won? Says it all.
Why not "Dean's a commie homo nigger lover"?
zig,
had any of them been creative enough to come up with that, I'm sure it would have won.
She would not reveal her name.
Well, at least she's proud of her effort...
Young Republicans have always reminded me of Greg Marmalard from the bad guy Omega frat in Animal House. My skin crawls just thinking about them.
"I think he's a person of morality. I'd rather have a good man be president than a smart man, hands down," Gerads said. "He's far from stupid. He's your average Joe American. It would be great if you were the smartest guy in the world and a really moral person. But you're not going to have that."
Joe American goes AWOL, runs several businesses into the ground, never works a day in his life and starts WWIII.
College republicans = lamebrains-in-training
you can't be smart AND moral... that explains everything!
W's speaking isn't difficult to follow? This girl must bring her own interpreter.
Heh, heh...
Creativity is a liberal thing. It goes hand-in-hand with free-thinking.
I see the republican dream candidate progression:
1) Dole = smart & moral
2) Bush = dumb & 'moral'
3) Arnold = dumb and immoral
4) Damian the anti-christ is next I suppose...
Where are all the ones with some kind of Hitler or Nazi reference? You mean only liberals make those signs?
meh, they make it so easy. lol.
Sounds like the College Republicans on my campus. Every time I've come across them I've been amazed at their complete inability to think rationally. They fundraise for stuff but you never see them actually do anything politically constructive (while we College Dems register students to vote and run GOTV on election day). They also seem to be less open with their persuasion - you'll occasionally see a college dem barcrawl shirt, but never a college repbulican.
That has to be a mistake, it can't possibly be college students, can it?
Okay, I read the article, I stand ashamed. BTW, what kind of school accepts such idiots? Is it the local Flunk Out U.? And just what the hell does
"A free Iraq is essential to making sure Americans and future generations of Americans are able to love peace and freedom," Bush said.
mean?
Last but not least, is the reporter, Aaron Nathans, a graduate of this affirmative action for idiots school?
dear anonymous troll,
Calling Bush a "nazi" may be hyperbolic rhetoric which diminishes the crimes of actualy nazis, but it isn't the same as republicans who think bigotry is Funny Funny Funny.
No Atrios,
Calling someone a Nazi is a LOT worse than using the term queen.
But you'll excuse it because you're a complete partisan.
Philly,
Calling someone a Nazi unfairly insults them personally. Calling someone a Queen is about bigotry towards an entire group. I know that you, as a republican, who is unable to understand the difference between consensual and nonconsensual sex acts, are unlikely to understand this distinction, but nonetheless I try to explain.
Philly G, have you ever had a man slide his tongue up your anus?
Atrios is a partisan--and you're not?
Any evidence you wish to adumbrate?
She would not reveal her name.
Give that girl a job in the bush White House! She already knows the drill!
When the Republicans were busy selling their souls to their Messiah, Moon, the college republican's were right there...and who else?
Moon buys the right's souls.
At times, Moon's penetration of conservative ranks has raised red flags among Republicans. In 1983, the GOP's moderate Ripon Society charged that the New Right had entered "an alliance of expediency" with Moon's church. Ripon's chairman, Rep. Jim Leach, R-Iowa, released a study which alleged that the College Republican National Committee "solicited and received" money from Moon's Unification Church in 1981. The study also accused Reed Irvine's Accuracy in Media of benefitting from low-cost or volunteer workers supplied by Moon.
Leach said the Unification Church has "infiltrated the New Right and the party it (the New Right) wants to control, the Republican Party, and infiltrated the media as well." Leach's news conference was broken up when then-college GOP leader Grover Norquist accused Leach of lying.
A shocking moment in the film - the instant when the MC has realized which way the winds are blowing and switches from mocking the Nazis to embracing them.
When they do the remake, they can use Dennis Miller....
" It would be great if you were the smartest guy in the world and a really moral person. But you're not going to have that."
So you can't be inteligent and moral? Huh. So that's the secret to understanding the Winger worldview. It's either well balanced critical thinking or hating the same things Grandpa hated.
Swell.
"Dean is a ween?"
"Dean can't measure up?"
How perfectly lovely that these thoroughly moral young people, who would never think of having oral sex in the Oval Office, come up with such, well, phallic double entendres for campaign slogans. Are they going for the size-queen vote?
OH GOD!
Tom O'Day... I go to law school with that guy. His fiance is a friend of mine.
I'll give the guy a break, but that's just about the saddest thing I've ever read. I'm going to give him shit about it on Monday.
Hitler Youth all over again indeed.
Although a simple interview is insuficient to gauge exactly how intelligent these people are or could be, it's enough just from the brief comments they made that they are nothing more than shock troops following orders.
No individuality or rationality skills at all, these kids are indeed the hitler youth.
When the time comes for them to suffer at the hands of their CCCP masters, how many and how soon can we expect to scream out "We are betrayed!" and rebel?
Again. I'm glad I own guns and lots of them.
Be well.
MYOB'
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"I go to law school with that guy" -mmmbeer
See I never had to deal with people like that when I was a student...then again I went to artschool where my fellow students were busy exchanging vegan recipes and fundraising for Amnesty International.
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Violence will be next.
Be ready.
Support the Environment:
Plant a Bush back in Texas
Violence will be next.
Speaking of which way the winds are blowing.... I've come to the conclusion that America is headed for a civil war in the next five or ten years. Call me paranoid or whatever. We're so polarized, and becoming more so, all it will take is a prolonged economic downturn and maybe some price shocks on staples like food or fuel, and all hell will start to break loose.
but thinking is so HARD!
College Republicans are living proof that American college degrees can be attained by anyone with enough time, money, and support. Of course a legacy doesn't hurt, either.
" It would be great if you were the smartest guy in the world and a really moral person. But you're not going to have that."
"Moral" for these types must equal simplicity that is completely devoid of all nuance or sophistocation. It must and always will be:
black or white
day or night
left or right
right or wrong
good or evil
with us or against us
patriot or traitor
Jebus or the Hellfire
Man or Mouse
They can't produce humor beyond the most sophmoric insults, or behave with decency among those they disagree with. If it's an A or B world, and they line up on the side of Jebus, good, patriot and right, anyone who disagrees HAS to be on the side of Satan, evil, treason and wrong because there are only two sides to any issue or belief for these people. This is why I think conservatives distrust intellectuals, and why intellectuals rarely count themselves among the ranks of the right. If you inject shades of coloring, or gradations of good or bad, or if you distinguish between patriotism and nationalism you step outside their thought-system, and that automatically makes you against them.
It's a sad, limited way to see the world at large. Some people seem to like it, though.
Cabaret is a great movie. I just saw it again about a month ago. At the start of the movie, the owner of the boarding house is thrilled that the daughter of a weathy Jewish businessman is visiting in her building and a Nazi who enters the Cabaret to solicit money is literally kicked out. By the end of the movie, society has completely changed, and the Nazis are respected and in control. Before World War I, Germany was as cultured and sophisticated as any other nation and the Jews were fully assimilated. A disasterious war and economic collapse led to the destruction of civility and humanity.
I'm not sure that I agree with Schlomo that we are heading towards a Civil War, but it is very troubling when people present as an excuse for outing a covert agent that, after all, her husband is a Democrat. The stakes are high, but if it is resolved through force of arms, the bad guys will win.
Well Jay G, I hope I'm wrong. Really. But as Cabaret suggests, it is easier than Americans believe for a cultured, civilized people to become completely and insanely depraved. I hope we don't walk that path.
...you'll excuse it because you're a complete partisan.
Oh boo hoo hoo hoo hoo!
Start your your own fucking blog, you moronic brownshirt fuck. And then stay there, please.
That is, if Unka Karl can spare you... somehow, I think there's too much to do down in the boilerroom right about now.
oh don't be so hard on the mentally challenged.
Without a doubt, at the two schools where I've been for any real length of time, college repubs are ass-stupid ... and vapid, and bullying, and willfully uninformed, and mired in their own "American manifest destiny" bullshit.
Shlomo I hope we don't either, but I think the clouds are gathering on the horizon.
Something big is about to happen, but it's sort of like ants in a cathedral. We really only see what's around us, and only pay attention to what's of use to us. We can only evaluate events and information according to what we are capable of understanding, so I don't think we can say for certain what sort of change is afoot, anymore than a bunch of ants could provide the schematics of the cathedral.
When I'm feeling optimistic, I tend to think of things as progressing toward a second flowering of enlightenment thought - philosophy and thinking to go along with the massive influx of technology into our lives in the last two decades. When I'm feeling pessimistic, I think of looming violence and the cleaving of our society into two disparate schools of social thought that will inevitably lead to civil war.
Even the thought of a burgeoning neo-enlightenment is skewed toward the more pessimistic view I have of things because, when you examine the great thinkers that brought on the enlightenment, you realize that what they wrote also brought on violent revolutions across Europe and here, as well...
So, who's up for moving to that compound in Wyoming to wait this out? Anyone? You sure?
Monica: on the Wyoming thing. I was asked last night what I would do if money were no object. I usually hate that question, but I surprised myself by saying (instead of my usual "dog groomer/breeder" answer to the question) by saying I'd like to be an eco-homesteader. That's what a friend of mine from high school did, but she had to move to Alaska to do it.
Unfortunately, my skills don't match the dream.
I also think something big is about to happen, and I don't think it will be good in the short term. In the long term I do think things will be much much better. I also think that once we've arrived at that point there will be about 1/10 the number of people that are currently living on this planet, so a lot of suffering waits for us in between. Getting from here to there is going to be a pretty rough ride. I always thought things would fall apart before I became an old man, but I never counted on things starting to unravel when I was in my 30s!!!
Canada is too cold and too dark in the winter. Personally, I'm brushing up on my Italian and French. If Chimpco actually wins the next election, I'm out of here and not coming back. I don't want to live in a country where over half of the populace is so stupid/easily duped. It's a danger to my mental (and probably physical) health. If Chimpco just steals it again, I'm out of here until my fellow citizens regain their sanity and storm the White House.
That having been said, I'm working my ass off to make sure I don't have to move.
In regards Joel Grey/Katz. He is the son of the great Mickey Katz, a klezmer/novelty band leader, who did yiddish parodies of popular songs. He is probably best known for his work with Spike Jones: "Hole In The Old Iron Curtain". Umm, off-topic...
Dear Atrios,
For the 50th time, I'm NOT a Republican.
Love,
Philly G
To those who utter Bush = Hitler or Hitler Youth comments, don't you ever get tired of hearing the bullshit you spew? You are truly an embarassment to yourself if you actually believe half of what you say.
Speaking of Nazis, here's a fellow Leftist literally praising the murder of Jewish babies.
http://www.indymedia.org/front.p...5&
group=webcast
But Bush = Hitler!!! right?
Now please go eat shit and die.
Speaking of Nazis, here's a fellow Leftist literally praising the murder of Jewish babies.
And anyone could just as easily go to LGF and find someone praising the murder of Palestinians and Arabs.
People are assholes. People of all political leanings.
You seem to be pretending that only one group of people are assholes. If that is in fact what you're suggesting, that would (of course) make you one of the assholes in question.
That's precisely what I'm NOT suggesting. But frankly, calling someone a Nazi or Hitler Youth so casually is just absurd and insulting. Seraphiel, you've always been one of the very reasonable ones. My point is that people like you should be demanding that nonsense to stop. Not expecting someone from the "other side" to do so.
You may not like LGF but when somebody says "Death to all Arabs", they get shouted down in LGF. Unfortunately, at sites like Indymedia, the commentators just join the chorus.
http://www.indymedia.org/front.p...6&
group=webcast
Read the non-LGF comments. Really despicable stuff here. These people would be best served never running into me.
"when somebody says "Death to all Arabs", they get shouted down in LGF"
Once in a blue moon, maybe. Usually the general response is either (a) general response or (b) mild disapproval ("oh, you shouldn't say such things, they make us look bad").
Philly G
You are the first person I have heard reference IndyMedia, ever, at Eschaton.
Anyhoo, LGF has always struck me, on my occasional visits, as a place of utter craziness.
My focus of study over the past 20 years has been Northern Ireland, so I do feel qualified to ID nuttiness when I see it... LGF is nutty.
What IS indymedia, anyway?
But frankly, calling someone a Nazi or Hitler Youth so casually is just absurd and insulting.
It's also inaccurate. The word we should be using is "fascist."
Seraphiel, you've always been one of the very reasonable ones.
I'm really not, but thanks for saying so. 
Unfortunately, at sites like Indymedia, the commentators just join the chorus.
I've never been to indymedia. And if that's how they are over there, I have no interest in going near it.
But there is a vast difference between being casual and sloppy with Nazi accusations, and cheering the death of a human being.
I think the notion that Jews were ever 'fully assimilated' into German society or any European society for that matter is naive. Anti-semitism has been a constant feature and factor since time immemorial, ready and waiting to be exploited by the church(s) and politicians. That it remained below the surface for a time here and there hardly means the Jews were fully assimilated.
Philly G, I don't know if you're counting my comments above (re: civil war) as part of the "Bush = Hitler" commentary. If you are, let me say that I don't believe we'll ever have an exact repeat of what happenned in Germany in the 30s. Bush is not Hitler, for a lot of reasons having to do with the fact that America in the 21st Century is not the same as Weimar Germany. Would Bush *like* to be Hitler? I have no way of knowing that, but his administration seems rather casual with our constitution and civil rights (and his grandfather did provide financial support for the Nazi regime.)
Also, I think Americans should get over our smug complacency that such a thing "could never happen here". I think the polarization that has happenned here in the last five to ten years could *easily* spin out of control into something very violent and ugly. Maybe not the same as Nazi Germany, but pretty bad nonetheless. If my generation, who grew up in unprecedented prosperity, ever had to suffer a prolonged and serious depression, or had to endure an actual threat of starvation, you'd better believe that guns would come out and some serious shit would start flying. I'm not saying this is *going* to happen. But it could. And we should do everything we can to prevent it.
Bush isn't a Nazi or a fascist. As far as I can see he lacks the persecution fantasies of most pure rightists.
You are not going to have to worry about storm-troopers during these times. We do not live in Nazi Germany.
But what you are dealing with is the most absurdly arrogant stupidly incompetent people ever to run a major civilization. To prove my point, a lot of people consider Karl Rove a genius. In that case powerful stupidness can get you killed just as easily as evil malevolance. Philly G probably is not a Nazi [though precious does protest a bit too much], but could still be a menace.
This comment sounds like a verse from the Book of the American Revelations.
"I think he's a person of morality. I'd rather have a good man be president than a smart man, hands down," Gerads said. "He's far from stupid. He's your average Joe American. It would be great if you were the smartest guy in the world and a really moral person. But you're not going to have that."
Unless a whole lot of us wise up a lot and very quickly, things could get very bad.
Bush isn't a Nazi or a fascist. As far as I can see he lacks the persecution fantasies of most pure rightists.
You are not going to have to worry about storm-troopers during these times. We do not live in Nazi Germany.
But what you are dealing with is the most absurdly arrogant stupidly incompetent people ever to run a major civilization. To prove my point, a lot of people consider Karl Rove a genius. In that case powerful stupidness can get you killed just as easily as evil malevolance. Philly G probably is not a Nazi [though precious does protest a bit too much], but could still be a menace.
This comment sounds like a verse from the Book of the American Revelations.
"I think he's a person of morality. I'd rather have a good man be president than a smart man, hands down," Gerads said. "He's far from stupid. He's your average Joe American. It would be great if you were the smartest guy in the world and a really moral person. But you're not going to have that."
Unless a whole lot of us wise up a lot and very quickly, things could get very bad.
Philly doesn't inform you of what he is. He's not a Republican... Over at Counterspin Central he calls himself a Libertarian. Enough said.
"Read the non-LGF comments. Really despicable stuff here. These people would be best served never running into me."
You know... That's the amusing thing about Libertarians, they have absolutely no situational understanding at all; They probably say the same thing about you as well Phil. But not to worry, no one will ever be bigger or luckier or come in larger numbers than you, eh? It's all about me, me, meeeeeeeeeee.......
Ah yes, I'm greedy because I don't believe you should be coerced into helping others, but rather should do so through private charity (by choice, not by force). If I had a dollar for every time I heard that....
So I'll ask yet again, are your politics hurting someone?
http://www.reason.com/0007/bok.gif
Ah yes, I'm greedy because I don't believe you should be coerced into helping others, but rather should do so through private charity (by choice, not by force).
Okay.
So let's eliminate taxes. You can pay for your own police, fire department, EMT services, roads, defense, intelligence gathering, etc, etc.
Maybe you can opt out of the schools and fire dept. payments if you have no kids or lots of hoses around. You know, take responsibility. And you shouldn't have to pay for roads in places you never want to go.
Any time you hear an obvious winger coyly deny that he's a Republican, it means he's a libertarian.
Bush is not Hitler but some of his supporters do remind me of the Brownshirts.
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