Anyone who's seen 12 Monkeys has to love David Morse. He lives up in Chestnut Hill.
digamma |
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10.04.03 - 9:56 pm | #
"Hack"?
You mean "Touched by a Cabby"?
Daniel Hatch |
10.04.03 - 10:03 pm | #
David Morse seems alright, quite likable. I saw him in a really awful movie, something based on a Stephen King book. It struck me as very funny. Never understood why. Woody Allen should do a "What's up Tiger Lilly?" job on it.
EPT |
10.04.03 - 10:10 pm | #
kaus is so much smarter than you gene, you ought to kill yourself out of shame, you fucking bill clinton fellating arkansas hack.
Anonymous |
10.04.03 - 10:22 pm | #
have you killed yourself yet, gene? you should. dumb ass.
Anonymous |
10.04.03 - 10:25 pm | #
Another explosive Arnold story is about to break. The words "love" and "child," in close prximity to each other, are involved.
pontificator |
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10.04.03 - 10:27 pm | #
Hack is one of the few shows I can watch on television. It's a serious show that (when I've seen it) explores the dark corners of morality and emotions. Rare. Reminds me a bit of Homicide, which also had Andre Braugher.
Sam Cooke lives on |
10.04.03 - 10:28 pm | #
i love your bottomless stupidity, gene. i do.
Anonymous |
10.04.03 - 10:30 pm | #
go away fremlin. mommy might want an email
Atrios |
10.04.03 - 10:31 pm | #
Sex, Lies and the Angry Left
You just have to laugh at the Angry Left. How can these people expect anyone to take them seriously when they publish books with titles like "The Big Lies of George W. Bush and the Big Lying Liars of George W. Bush Who Tell Them?"--and their hero is Bill Clinton? Reasonable people can disagree with Bush policies, of course, but constantly calling him a "liar" serves only to remind people of how honest he is compared with his predecessor.
That's not all, folks. Clinton's lies, the nascent Angry Left told us at the time, were excusable because they were "about sex." A state employee accuses him of dropping his trousers, a campaign volunteer charges him with groping her in the Oval Office, a nursing-home operator says he raped her in the 1970s--those are all just "personal peccadilloes." It's time to move on!
In fact, there was a Web site called MoveOn.org set up in 1998 to oppose impeachment, which has remained in operation and turned into a center of Angry Left activity. So what are the folks at MoveOn up to these days? For one thing, they're beating the BUSH LIED!!!! drum, using a witless adjunct site called Misleader.org. Then there's this: "We're asking you to help fund a television ad devoted to putting [Arnold] Schwarzenegger's problem with women into the public eye. We need to raise at least $500,000 to make this happen."
The Drudge Report reproduces a MoveOn.org news release announcing a press conference this morning in Los Angeles, featuring MoveOn co-founder Joan Blades, former candidate and "Green Acres" star Arianna Huffington and an unnamed "woman cited in the Los Angeles Times article" on Schwarzenegger's past boorishness.
So let's see if we have this straight. Bush is bad because he "lies." Schwarzenegger is bad because he (admittedly) treated women in an offensive way. But Clinton's behavior was no big deal because he lied about offensive treatment of women. Does MoveOn really mean to assert as its guiding principle that it's acceptable to molest and even assault women if and only if you lie about it?
Anonymous |
10.04.03 - 10:32 pm | #
you're such a dope, gene. i really didn't realize how fucking stupid the left could get before i started checking out your brilliant insights.
Anonymous |
10.04.03 - 10:33 pm | #
bring it on, cocksucker.
Anonymous |
10.04.03 - 10:33 pm | #
you might want one, too. so might your server.
Anonymous |
10.04.03 - 10:33 pm | #
come on, "atrios."
Anonymous |
10.04.03 - 10:34 pm | #
come on, arkansas boy.
Anonymous |
10.04.03 - 10:34 pm | #
Atrios's stalker spends a lot of time examining what he calls "the angry left" but most of the anger I see is his own.
You know, I think there are pills for that...
Dr. Pedant |
10.04.03 - 10:35 pm | #
Yes, yes, keep it up my minions! Stick it to the anonymous blogger with virtually no real power over the electorate! You nameless insult slingers are the proud warriors who've made the GOP the fearsome fighting force it is today.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to work on my bogus passports. You kids mind the store while I'm on my "fact-finding" mission to Argentina. I SWEAR I'll be back before the election.
Launched on a prime-time chat show, the Schwarzenegger candidacy is the purest expression of fame-politics, that confusion between celebrity worship and hero worship identified by the historian Daniel Boorstin. Arnie is not a hero, but he plays a hero, and that is enough celebrity to outweigh any amount of scandal, bad behaviour, sexual harassment, ignorance and inexperience. Many California voters do not see Schwarzenegger as a real person (indeed, in many ways, he is not one) but as a character from a higher world where different rules apply; that he may be a groper in life matters far less than how he is remembered from the screen.
Arnie has made an extraordinary career out of being brighter than he seems, and nobody better understands the muscle of celebrity. In the 1976 documentary film, Pumping Iron, he remarked: “I was always dreaming about very powerful people, dictators and things like that. I was always impressed by people who could be remembered for hundreds of years or, like Jesus, for thousands of years.”
Arkenor |
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10.04.03 - 10:44 pm | #
Honey please, don't associate me with such mental midgets. I may kill and eat people, but even I wouldn't vote for a blow monkey with the IQ of the brush he loves "clearing".
Though that mother of his could serve a family of ten for at least six months.
Hannibal Lecter |
10.04.03 - 10:47 pm | #
California Uber Alles
This man will be our governor soon - god help us. What will he do wheb he gets real power.
Sovok |
10.04.03 - 10:47 pm | #
Thank you Sovok. And to the original poster who namechecked me, a further point: These anonymous posts lack any semblance of creativity. My strength has always been creeping the fuck out of people with my massive intellect and mind games. With their collective brainpower, the wingers of the world could probably only summon a mind game at the level of say, Pong, or Frogger on a good day.
Hannibal Lecter |
10.04.03 - 10:58 pm | #
Hey, I for one just *adore* Anon's homophobic outbursts! Makes me feel all tingly knowing what a man he is....
Shlomo |
10.04.03 - 10:58 pm | #
poor troll, no working logic base in his head, knows no facts, just acts vulgar like a 6yr old, brings argument based on emotion and misrepresented non researched facts, just what is crammed down his memory hole, misrepresents what was consensual versus what was at least sexual battery, remember people this is a hate child, they only have thrie fear, fear of crime, fear of displacment, fear fear fear, mostly of their own inadequacies in this world, these quickly turn to hate, they spew this at anything that looks different than they, so remember, this is why trolls bring us emotionally based insult lines as they are impossible to parry, you can either act like a hateful 2nd grader with mental problems, and decend to their level, or ignore it, personally I almost always opt for the second course but its not the usual to see one trolling around here, personally I call them what the are, hateful disturbed, intellectual lightweights that are only responsive to their own hate anymore
king broke |
10.04.03 - 11:04 pm | #
NO GOD NO! don't tell me Lamball has actually produced seed. the best thing about him was that he hadn't bred. well, before his pill popping surfaced.
pansypoo |
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10.04.03 - 11:04 pm | #
Damn...The freepers sure are touchy these days. Anon should just take an oxycoten and relax
Shaun |
10.04.03 - 11:05 pm | #
King Broke: I mostly agree. But lately I think the best way to deal with them is wit and humor. Nothing pisses them off more...
Shlomo |
10.04.03 - 11:06 pm | #
the queston is, who does anonymous think he's scaring?
OO.. whatcha gonna do? Send atrios an email?
Holy Shit, you mean Atrios isn't his REAL NAME ?! And he was born in the United States of America!? Holy cripes, now his credibility is totally blown out of the water!!
Betcha figured out he lives in Philadelphia too, huh? Oh yeah right, he just posted that, above. Man, you're a regular PI, anonymous. What do you do in your spare time? Repo cars?
jp |
10.04.03 - 11:15 pm | #
Boy, is he gonna have an anneurism or what when Wesley Clark -- another Arkansas boy -- becomes president? Which one of the reasons I support Clark, because if he wins it will piss these guys off more than any of the other nine.
Oh, and by the way, dumbfuck, a lot of us give money to moveon.org. You just discover it?
innerlooper |
10.04.03 - 11:16 pm | #
Shlomo, your wit and humor is lost on these guys. But, having another president from Little Rock -- I can practically hear their middle cerebral arteries bursting at the thought of it.
innerlooper |
10.04.03 - 11:17 pm | #
Watch out, Atrios. That next cheesesteak might have more than cheez whiz on it.
jp |
10.04.03 - 11:18 pm | #
...I'll thank you not to sully the good name of Frogger in my presence, Dr. Lecter.
Jody |
10.04.03 - 11:19 pm | #
I move that we all uniformly adopt a standard line for outbursts such as anonymous':
"Ha! It thinks it's people!"
Further reinforcing my theory that there's a Simpsons quote suited to every situation in life.
Jess |
10.04.03 - 11:21 pm | #
Anyway, that OC shortage should be clearing up real soon now and you can get some more rest. I suggest you take enough to make up for all the ones you missed--say 30-35 tablets. Just crush 'em up and stir them into your Ovaltine, get out your secret decoder ring and see if you can figure out what the secret message is for today. Here is a clue to get you started: W=86 in 04.
catalexis |
10.04.03 - 11:27 pm | #
give the anonymous guy the proper respect at least for the rapidity of his typing with one hand notwithstanding the two thumbs in his draft avoidance crevice....
bigfoot |
10.04.03 - 11:34 pm | #
I just think it's hilarious that someone who will ONLY sign their name as "anonymous" actually says "bring it on".
Even more admirable because he has non-opposable thumbs.
Sovok |
10.04.03 - 11:37 pm | #
And so it begins....the waves of disillusion ripple across the right-wing, emanating forth in ever expanding circles from the splash-down-drowning of Rush......
Put the bottle down Anonymous, you've got snakes to handle early tomorrow doncha?
-Tater |
10.04.03 - 11:38 pm | #
Don't the trolls pick the strangest threads for their attacks?
[btw: news flash from my radio: Trot Nixon ends the first extra-inning postseason game at since the '75 Classic Carlton Fisk game with his best Fisk imitation: a 2-run pinch homer in the bottom of the 11th, and the Sawx are still alive.]
Back on topic (if anyone cares anymore) I saw some of Hack last year, & I was kinda glad to see David Morse get a show...he does have a long history as a solid character actor in both movies & tv; there're alot of bad movies that feature him as "Soldier/gangster #3--the brooding one". He certainly does the brooding tough guy well. He would've had a great career in B-noir movies in the '50s...
I like the show, but from the 2nd season premiere (I didn't see tonite) I didn't like the changes--looks like they got rid of the priest (maybe for political reasons or maybe because Dzundza (sp?) was getting so morbidly obese) as well as the wife, plus they already resolved the whole corruption prosecution thing, so pretty much all that's left is "Touched by a Cabbie." At least the incomparable Andre Braugher is still around...
Michael (in DC) |
10.04.03 - 11:38 pm | #
(as Fenway, that is)
Michael (in DC) |
10.04.03 - 11:40 pm | #
Jeezus....
AT Fenway, that is!
so the sentence in brackets above should read: "Trot Nixon ends the first extra-inning postseason game at Fenway since the '75 Classic Carlton Fisk game..."
Isn't troll boy actually about 17 years old? I thought that came out some time ago...explains the immaturity of his outbursts, at least, although not his fixation on Atrios as Gene Lyons...
Dr. Pedant |
10.04.03 - 11:51 pm | #
I thought troll-boy was actually in college. Not that it's helped him any.
Shlomo |
10.04.03 - 11:58 pm | #
Looks like mommy put the little troll to bed.
(PS: As always, more troll outings!)
dave |
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10.05.03 - 12:01 am | #
What I don't understand are the consecutive troll posts. I mean, if you have multiple things to say about "Gene", why not put them all in one post? If you can't bear to post only once, why not attack each poster here individually? That would start some real trouble.
This has been another episode of "Trolling for Dummies".
digamma |
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10.05.03 - 12:31 am | #
Why not Clark/Kerry? Both military men, Kerry better at legislative duties. Just forget Dean.
Sammy |
10.05.03 - 12:36 am | #
OBVIOUSLY, the troll gets drunk on Friday nights, gets home annoyed at his failure to "score," and takes out his frustrations in a way that makes him feel important. He matters exactly zero.
Welcome to the Internet!
Melissa O |
10.05.03 - 12:45 am | #
"When I was a child
I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look and it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The child has grown
The dream is gone
I have become comfortably numb."
--Pink Floyd
I need to go to bed now
I just played that song and it made me very sad.
I hope Rush learns some humanity from all of this but I wouldn't bet on it.
catalexis |
10.05.03 - 12:55 am | #
Of course the whole art of trolling is supposed to be to be subtle enough that you don't get fingered for starting it.
Thoughts from the mind of mr tek.
He did do a good job though, I have compleatly forgotten what the origional topic of the thread was....
Mrtek |
10.05.03 - 12:55 am | #
Is that the same anonymous who used to write all those nice sonnets and stuff? I've also seen some sayings and anecdotes attributed to you. You've changed, and not for the better.
Mooser |
10.05.03 - 12:59 am | #
well, anon does make a point about the hypocrisy of moveon.org regarding stand on clinton's vs ahnold's behavior...but that is off-topic.
i saw david morse in the movie "dancer in the dark"...he got broody with bjork. now, that was a good movie and it even made a statement against capital punishment.
Treetops |
10.05.03 - 1:23 am | #
That is one creepy troll at the beginning of this thread. Yuck.
Anyway, for David Morse lovers, i wanted to recommend Sean Penn's "The Indian Runner" for those who haven't seen it. Top notch.
In the light of the early spun Sol,
The eminent souls,
May beg for the crumbs
that they wrongfully seek,
And yet they shall beg,
because the walking weak amongst them
shall demand retribution.
trout |
10.05.03 - 1:51 am | #
Gosh, you folks are so dense! Don't you realize that when Anonymous wrote "bring it on, cocksucker" he was actually quoting President Bush? True, the news media must have redacted the "cocksucker" part from the president's original remark, which as you recall was intended to whip up even greater fury among the armed Iraqi and foreign resistance who are killing U.S. troops daily.
Man, give the troll credit where credit is due!
Brooklyn v. Bush |
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10.05.03 - 2:06 am | #
I deeply resent the fact that someone would produce a show titled "Hack" and not even hire me as a consultant.
Mickey Kaus |
10.05.03 - 2:10 am | #
the troll can't help it.
"What you're feeling is premature enlightenment."
He's just trying to fight off all the facts trying to march into his brain.
"What? Clinton-not-lying-about-significant-matters-of-
policy? Bush-killing-people-and-relaxing-food-shit-standards? Schwarzenneger-has-no-fucking-clue-how-to-govern? NOOOOOOOO! It CANNOT BE! El Rushbo, say it ain't so... i... what are those pills, Unkie Rush? NO! Drugs are what the... the... LHIBHRURUHLSH do! THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO BELIEVE!"
agrajag |
10.05.03 - 2:33 am | #
What show is Atrios referring to? Is there actually a show called "Hack?" LOL
Bobby |
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10.05.03 - 2:48 am | #
I thought the comments would actually reference the CBS show "Hack", about a former Philadelphia cop turned cab driver, with some pretty serious acting by David Morse and Andre Braugher.
Tonight's show featured a black guy fingered by the cops and then held the FBI as a "material witness" to what might be a terrorist act. It's the first show I can recall that looked at the Patriot Act, indefinite detention and the sort from an unabashedly liberal point of view. In this case, it was basically super-sized racial profiling.
Good stuff. The show is consistently well-written and well-acted. It's a pity they've moved it to Saturday night.
bad Jim |
10.05.03 - 3:12 am | #
The best David Morse vehicle, IMHO, was the truly terrific St. Elsewhere.
Although I don't mind putting on Hack every so often when I get deeply homesick for Philly.
OTOH, I think the acting is a bit over the top, but I blame that on ho-hum directing, and the scripts don't have much sparkle to them, seem pretty mediocre. If I'm going to watch TV, I want it to be GREAT TV. Otherwise, give me a book...or Eschaton.
But hey, to each his/her own, YMMV.
Kate |
10.05.03 - 3:13 am | #
well, anon does make a point about the hypocrisy of moveon.org regarding stand on clinton's vs ahnold's behavior
Monica was sexually assaulted?
Patriotboy |
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10.05.03 - 3:14 am | #
Yup. There is a show called "Hack", about a former cop turned cabbie (I forget the premise for the career change) who manages to find time to do a little detective work. The episode Atrios was referring to was nicely done. Caught it sheerly by accident. The exchange between the falsely accused man & the FBI agent after his release was worth the viewing.
James |
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10.05.03 - 3:15 am | #
Atrios' stalker is a 55 year old man living in a gated community in Maryland. He believes Spongebob Squarepants is a making American youth effiminate. He applies Rogaine to his most sensitive areas on the off chance that his participation in tax protest rallies will somehow be enhanced. The less said about that, the better.
You can find the same Drudge sourced cut and paste jobs on every A-list liberal blog, by the way. Is that you, Lucianne?
Stradiotto |
10.05.03 - 4:32 am | #
OT, but... um... kinda important:
The Israeli government announced that it has attacked what it calls a Palestinian terrorist (apparently Islamic Jihad) training camp inside Syria. The attack is in retaliation for a suicide bombing in Haifa.
No response at this time from Syrian government.
Seraphiel |
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10.05.03 - 4:39 am | #
This post is R rated and a bit gross.
I first heard the word "cocksucker" while I was out docking lambs with my uncle. "Docking" is the process of cutting the lamb's tail, notching it's ears, and removing the testicles. The latter procedure makes the mae lambs grow fatter.
In small farm operations, the testicles are removed by cutting off the blood supply with an elastic band. You have to keep an eye on the lambs so that gangrene doesn't set in.
That process doesn't work well on the range. There's just too many sheep and they're always being herded to water or new grazing areas--there's no pen to watch them as they recuperate. So the testicles are removed by cutting the scrotum and squeezing it to expose the testicles so that you can pull them out using your teeth.
It's an assembly line operation. The sheep are herded into a makeshift corral built earlier in the day. Small bunches of ewes and lambs are herded into a wooden pen and "holders" pick up the lambs and place them on a plank placed on the top of one of the pen's walls.
Three people stand on the other side of the plank. The first, gives the lamb shots of antibiotic and "blackleg" vaccine. The second, in this case my uncle, docks the lambs. If they're male, he first pulls their testicles out with his teeth and spits them into a bucket of water--they'll be bottled and later eaten by friends and family. He then would notches the ear and cuts he tail.
The bloodstopper, which was me, grabs the stub of the tail, pours a coagulant/anti-bacterial powder on it and holds it for a few seconds to stop the bleeding.
This one time, we had set up near a dirt road on a mountain a few miles from a recreational area. A couple of dirt bikers happened along and stopped to watch--it's not often you get to see people biting lambs testicles.
My uncle hated dirt bikers. He hated everyone who used the range for recreation. To him, they were all "god damned environmentalists" who loved coyotes more than sheep.
When he saw that these dirt bikers were watching us, he said, "watch me make those cocksuckers get sick." He then pulled out a lamb's testicles with his teeth and turned to look at the bikers.
He must have looked pretty scary to them. His face was covered with blood and he had the tubes and veins from the testicles coming out of his mouth and sticking to his chin. He then sucked these into his mouth and pretended to swallow. One of the bikers threw up, but they didn't tarry long after that.
Anyway, I thought the word "cocksucker" sounded kind of cool. I liked the way the word fell out of the mouth so to speak. There are three hard k sounds in three syllables. It felt kind of cool to say. I didn't know what it meant, I thought perhaps it was like saying that someone sucked chicken heads.
Shortly after that, our family was in the foyer of our Mormon church where everyone was milling before sacrament meeting started--that's the most important o
Patriotboy |
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10.05.03 - 5:07 am | #
(continued)
Shortly after that, our family was in the foyer of our Mormon church where everyone was milling before sacrament meeting started--that's the most important of the many meetings Mormons hold on Sunday. My brother and I were doing what brothers do, hitting each other in the shoulder and kneeing each other in the tender area on the outside of the thigh. I was older and always got the best of him, but he got his licks in too.
Well, at one point I said "take this you cocksucker" as I landed a punch on my brothers arm. The soft buzz of conversation in the foyer stopped, and I think my mother let out a soft scream.
I was never allowed to go out with my uncle docking lambs again.
Patriotboy |
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10.05.03 - 5:08 am | #
He believes Spongebob Squarepants is a making American youth effiminate.
Listen, let's leave my bedroom slippers out of this, shall we?
From the choir |
10.05.03 - 6:22 am | #
Damn. Slash slipped sideways. Slothed off the slithery slope of html.
From the choir |
10.05.03 - 6:24 am | #
So the testicles are removed by cutting the scrotum and squeezing it to expose the testicles so that you can pull them out using your teeth.
It's an assembly line operation.
Just HOW MANY are removed daily?
POS |
10.05.03 - 6:46 am | #
No mention of the Crossing Guard, Morse and Nicholson.
Jesus people.
While I'm at it;
Long Kiss Goodnight
The Green Mile
and
Double Vision.
POS |
10.05.03 - 6:52 am | #
Patriotboy: when I was growing up on a farm in Wyoming we called those lamb testicals Rocky Mountain oysters.
And some years later the Mormon church excommunicated me--for a not completely unrelated matter...
ritchie |
10.05.03 - 6:53 am | #
don't speak of anon trolls; they did from minimal neglect.
thelrd in TEXAS
larry davis |
10.05.03 - 9:30 am | #
Just HOW MANY are removed daily?
I remember that we one did over a thousand lambs in one day. Of course, not all of them were male. That was unusual though. As I recall, we usually did about half that.
Patriotboy |
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10.05.03 - 3:19 pm | #
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